Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa is a production of I Heart Radio. What's Up Everybody? Thank you guys so much for giving us an awesome opportunity to spend an hour with each other once a week, and this podcast has truly become And I don't want to speak for Aaron, but I think her sentiments the same, such like a highlight of my week for a number of different reasons.
I love getting to read your guys questions that you submit for free game and going out on the road and the awesome people that we get to meet in the airport or on the airplane and saying like I love your podcast makes us realize that people are listening and it means a lot. So thank you guys so much for an awesome two and I'm looking forward to
keeping it going. Yeah. I feel like every time we meet somebody that says, oh my gosh, I love your podcast so much, we think to ourselves, wait, you're listening, really happening, um, So it's pretty cool. There's been some definitely some memorable moments, like Kyle Shanahan actually stopping to walk with me because we'd go back to the forty niners about Calm down and everyone needing to calm down. And we love it. Like Chris and said, we love
meeting you, we love seeing the signs at games. Keep it coming, keep the questions coming, and uh yeah, we want to obviously keep it rolling in We're hoping to maybe figure out some fun, exciting different things, maybe live and in person to see everybody and interact engage if you will, will calm down. We love you so much, so we're looking forward to it. Oh and by the way, right now, we wanted to look back at some of our favorite interviews from the past year, so let's do
us do it. First up, we're going to start with fashion icon, businesswoman, podcast host, mother, and so much more, Rachel Zoh and apparently I'll never forget when she told us she had the fig candles in her house, which every time I go to smell them, I always think about me in her house, which I've never been and I'm still waiting for the invite. Um, you know, her
burning those puppies. We talked to her about work life balance, raising a family while dominating the business world, the fashion world. She was awesome. She was awesome. I always wanted to be her. Remember watching her reality show, and she just had these amazing outfits and jewelry. And I think my favorite parties you'll hear in the interview is she truly is a girl's girl. And I loved, loved love getting to what I thought she was actually being able to
validate that interview enjoy totally. I think there's a big misconception about marriage. You hear people say very often like when they associate marriage with like um part of their life. They go, well, marriage is hard. Marriage is is really hard. And I think Roger and I did that are always like that's where you're actually wrong, Like like Roger and I always say, it's so funny. It's like everything else in life is hard. Like we're the easy part, like
your husband and wife. That should be where you come home and you're like, it's like your safe person, it's your easy let your guard down, just be you. Like that should be the thing that's the most effortless thing in your life. It should never be the challenge. The minute it's the challenge, I think that's where you have to like take a step back because this is your forever right. So not that it doesn't have like ups
and downs, because of course it does. Any relationship does, but you know, I just don't think it should be. It's very Aaron's parents are still together, My parents are still together. So I'm just always in awe and envious of of that. So kudos you. It should never be overlooked because it is, especially in the world that you guys live in. You know, to have that anchor that keeps you and you know you said it. He lets you be you and you let him be him. So
it's a beautiful, beautiful relationship. Just observing with that, Let me ask because I am so intrigued and I was dying to just talk to you with how much you juggle, with how much you have your hands in and my gosh, fashion social media, I mean on Bravo back in the day, um now wallpaper all of the I mean I was sending links of it to my sister today and I was like, this is so good for you for your apartment and to give you some life. You know who else is in wallpaper and did my house in Montana?
Samantha Phipps and wallpaper? She changes your life. But before we get to that, I have to ask you, Rachel, with you involved in so much and I don't know how you operate in terms of I have so many ideas and I have so many things. I am trying really hard in my marriage almost a five years who um to stay present and be where your feet are and give him the time he needs, especially when I'm not during my season. How do you do that with your marriage with your kids? What do you do? Well? Okay,
so here's the thing. Um. You know, we just launched our second venture fund, and I think, you know, my biggest thing that I've become really obsessed with over the last year or two is really having my hands in a lot of different businesses and really like consulting, advising, investing, UM. And I think all the other things like you mentioned the wallpaper and fragrance and all these other things. I'm it's weird. I'm a creative person. I'm definitely a creative person.
I've been my whole life before I even knew it. And I think when you're a creative person, there's this um kind of like this ticking thing in your body that like explodes if you're not stimulated right, and you have to like project that creativity on everything you do. And so for example, okay, I'm just gonna say, like my office, right, I must remerch and restyle these shells, like twice a week, like I'll just be on the phone with someone and stand up and start like re
styling books and things. So you're dying and so I think, I think to that extent, I think my career for me, I've never planned any of it, not my books. Everything I ever said no to I did. I was like, oh god, no, I'd never write a book on any marine books? Who was time? You know? And and you know and TV shows like I'm never letting anyone in my life like all those things. But I think there's a time and a place, and I've definitely always been
governed by my gut instinct for things. And when opportunities come, it's not always the right time. It's not always the right um people that you want to do business with, And I think those things kind of pull you into things now becoming a mom and and much later in life. By the way, um Ildier and I we Roger and I were together. Raise yourself when I tell people this out loud, it sounds crazy. We were together for eighteen
years before we had child. But I remember you got and again because your life was out there with your show. It was weird, not weird, that's it was. Well, no, it was just you were you were this like dynamo and continue to be right with like the business side and Aaron and I have talked about this for a long time. When is the right time to have kids or how it's going to disrupt my business? And so then when you you know, to think now with your children,
like who knew what your life looked like before those boys? Right? Because now there the whole world, and so when is that right time to shift up and what made it change for you guys and decide like, hey, we need to do this and we want to do this now time, really time, because you know, it's a weird thing because I was this weird hybrid of a completely career obsessed,
perfectionist workaholic for my whole adult life. Those types of people are not typically people that you say, oh, she's going to be a mom, she needs to be a mom, you know. But weirdly, since I was sixteen fifteen, I was always called like mom's oh or you know, I was always the mom. I was always the one taking care of everybody. I was always the one, you know, just I was the shoulder they cried on. I was the ear I was at this. It was all those things.
And then when all my friends started having children, it was funny because I'd be the one adult that was invited to kid's birthdays that had no kids, and I would be the one out there playing with kids while all the parents were like drinking wine in an amazing, flowing down designer gown as she's out there, likely as I was definitely a nails I was, definitely, but it was weird. So this I was very, very conflicted because I knew in my soul that I had to be
a mother because I loved children. I loved them. What I couldn't solve for was how in God's name I was going to have time to do that? And I was like, how I don't even have time to shower. I sleep four hours a night, you know what I mean?
Like I'm living the most ridiculous life. And then, as you may have seen on the show, I got very sick in two thousand and nine and I got vertigo that was debilitating for about a year, and ultimately, like your body sometimes makes decisions and just says, you know what, I guess what just kidding. You can't live like this anymore. And um, you know, I would attribute it to say I was probably collapsing of sorts from exhaustion, you know.
And then Roger and I one day we were just like, oh god, I'm getting old, Like agree kind of need to do this, and what do we do? You know, it was sort of like, how do I get a baby? It was sort of like, right, how do I do this? We started around and I got pregnant. Honestly, it's funny. I was pregnant for nine weeks before I even realized I was pregnant because we weren't trying. We weren't not trying,
but weren't trying. Yeah, I was just working. And then I just remember finding out I was pregnant in the summer of two thousand and ten, and I just remember, like, you know, those pregnancy tests you take them and it takes like, you know, it takes like a minute to see what color, what what what plus sing or whatever. And there's like four of them in a box. Girls, I took four them. They took five seconds to come up with the answer. It was like, you were strong,
these are yeah, that's funny. My luck I'd be like, is that another line? Is it not a line? Like? So there was no looks crooked. So but the truth is, you guys, I remember taking this hospital tour when I was like eight and a half months pregnant, and I remember at Cedars and I left the hospital and I got in the car and I go, nope, can't do it. And Ron really, because what are you doing that we're doing because you want to see such And I go, no, no, I can't do that. I'm freaking out, like I don't
don't I don't know how to give birth. He's like nobody knows how to give birth. I'm like, you would say a word about this, You're just gonna stand there like looking at me. And you know, I was. I was in a full panic, like I could have stayed pregnant for like five years, like that was fine. I was just like not ready. And then all of a sudden, like sky was in my hands and it was almost like my life just went upside down and backwards with
love and I froze for like a year. I couldn't get my head out of like him, you know, in terms of like I'm not leaving it. I don't think I left him for like three years, like, and then I had my second one. I just took him everywhere, honestly, and you know, after Caius like it's weird. By the second one, you're sort of like, Okay, I can do both. I can. I got this, you know. But I what I did in all Honestly, I think because I was an older mom and I kind of had already, I
felt my career set up, so to speak. I was able to bring my kids to work your businesses, yes, But then in my company, six girls had babies the same time as me, and I immediately opened a nursery in my office because I was like, no way, I'm bringing my baby and they're not bringing their babies. So everyone had their babies. It was the cutest thing in the whole. It was the best. Honestly, it was the best. Another really fun interview. We love women that are in
this industry and we love supporting them. Renee Piquette is fantastic. She is from Canada. You played a fun game with her Canadian or is it Jared? So that was fun. She is someone who our passive actually crossed a few times in this industry. She even told the story which I didn't know about. She said that I ended up taking her job. She had also auditioned for Sports Nation back in the day, so we had some fun with that.
But yeah, we worked together, not on the same shows, but we both worked at Fox, all of us together and so had a great time talking to her. She as a great cookbook out. She also became a mother in this past year, and then she talks about dating her husband and not letting anyone know and then they eventually got married and sort of all of the stories that are intertwined and that. So enjoy our interview with Berne. I want to make my jumps down to the US. I want to figure out what I'm gonna go do.
So um, this is where we kind of come into play. Because I had come into audition for UM for Sports Nation and loved it, had a great time. I thought, for sure, that's the thing that's gonna be it, That's where I'm headed. And then that at the end of that week, w W E brought me in for an audition and I bombed it. It was not good. Oh no, why what do you mean? It was a full day. So I get there and like you know, you're like meeting all like the producers meeting the executives, blah blah blah,
like walking through the buildings figuring everything out. So they had me do like, you know, like a post show style kind of thing. That was fine. I was like, Okay, this is my wheelhouse. I can do this. They had me jump in and do commentary and I was like what, like so over my head, not a clue what I was doing. Like blessings to the man that was in the booth with me trying to do it, He's probably like,
get this chick out of here. Um. Then they like gave me like uh, it's like a battery charger or something, and they're like sell this to me, and like I have like what are you doing? I know, it was like full on like boot camp singer swim. So I honestly didn't really think I did a great job. And I was like, Okay, well we'll see what happens. I don't know, I'm probably gonna go do this thing at ESPN anyways. Um, and then Chris A. Thompson enters the picture and then they gave it to me by default.
Numbers never lied canceled and they're like this but just got a year left on her contract, so we gotta put her somewhere. Oh my gosh, no, I remember like being at home. I've told this story before and like on my show and maybe some other places, but I was like at home being like cool, I'm gonna go do this other thing. I'm gonna go to ESPN blah blah blah. And it was like the episode that Michelle Beatle was leaving, they shoot her out the can and
I'm like, oh, that's a nice little send up. And then this car pulls up and these like heels pop out, and like, wait, who's this, what's happening? What's going on again? By default not listen. You're so fantastic at everything you do, Like god, you're so you were so great on that show and you're so amazing and all the things that you do. But it was that moment that I was like,
oh my gosh, okay, so that's not happening. And then w w WE the contract came through with them, and I was like, yeah, okay, let's go and do that. Let's go. And I had no idea what I was gonna do. They're not a clue. I was like, am I doing the show? Like I was doing in Toronto. Am I gonna be doing like a studio show? What am I going to be doing? Um? And then yeah, I mean I ended up doing a million things there.
I started off hosting this show, Vintage Collection, which was like all old school wrestling that I was hosting with me Jane Oakerland, who was just like an absolute class act, best man ever. Loved him. And then I ended up going on the road doing backstage interviews was kind of the thing I started dipping my toe into, then hosting panel shows for for all the pay per views, joining Total Divas, doing a reality show We Need to That's
that's where Aaron insert erin there. Well, no, that's when I started hearing about you because I would get your name tagged onto my name at Twitter like she's the wrestling Aaron and and I was like, what's going on? What's happening? I was like, am I screwing up something here? So that I kept seeing your name everywhere, and I was like, is this bitch talking about me? Like what's going on? And you weren't, but it was like Everybody's like, oh, she's the wrestling version. So I was like, Okay, I
see you. So total Diva's so funny. So we get brought in to do Total Divas, which was like great, but it was also a little weird or like awkward, I guess for me because I was the only girl on there that wasn't a wrestler, So I'm like, what am I? Like? What am I bringing to the table? What are your trying to bring? Every trying to bring the party? And then so my husband, now we were dating at the time, but we were doing the show. We were on it together, and it was just like weird.
So my husband's wrestling character, especially at the time, was like this like crazy lunatic, So that was sort of the essence on the show where he's still this like wacky crazy guy and I'm like, why is he so crazy all the time? So it was like this weird dynamic that's like not actually what our dynamic is. But it was a lot of fun. I mean, should you just get to like hang out with your friends and
keep the champagne flowing you go on these trips. The only thing that like that I had really a hard time with was just being miked up all the time, having a mic pack on you all day long, and you're like on on vacation bathing. You just put this on your bikini and it's like segging your pants down. It's like that. Did you guys have a clause in your contract, because we did. When I danced on Dancing with the Stars, it was kind of the same thing.
You were a mic pack all day, So if you're hooking up, you're fighting, if you're cussing out the producers, it's on tape, but we had it in the contract. As soon as I'm in the potty, the mic pack is allowed to be off. So that's where Maxim and I would fight or like bitch about the show, being like, of course she's gonna win it, right, Like, that's not bathroom, So yeah, could you take it off in the potty
or no? Um? Yeah, I don't really remember there being any like you can do X, Y and Z, Like it was a little more like loose in terms of that, because there are be times that we'd be shooting and then near the end of the day, like as the camera start like pulling out, pulling out, pulling out, we're like at dinner or shooting the ship and whatever. Am I allowed to swear on here? By the way, I think that's right, Um, calmed down, calmed down, everybody calmed down.
Can you not swear on the volume? Are you guys classy over there? No? I swear probably too much. I think it actually freaks people out because they're so used to me not swearing on television. They're like, who is this? Yeah, it's just it's actually we're trying to work on. It's a tough one to break. I also feel like kind of boring when I'm just not swearing as much. I like, just by my sentences a bit, had a little flare.
He's going to go into one of our segments we're gonna have with you about Canadian or is it just Jared about swearing? Don't worry? How is being married to a Canadian? What's like the other side? They won't get to that. I mean, that's gonna be part of our segment Canadian or just Jared? So I can't wait. Give me the one thing. So you started in the industry at what age? I mean I started like auditioning and
stuff like that, like around eighteen nineteen. But then I was like broad Like I had my first broadcast, asking on national television job at twenty three. So I think it's awesome to you know, when like younger girls or guys or whatever ask advice. Um on, you know, if you could go back and tell your younger self something. I also think it's important to continue to solicit advice from people that I respect in the industry. Give yourself advice.
If you go back in time the eighteen year old you or the twenty three year old you that you now know that you didn't know. Then I would say, be selective who you take advice from, because everybody wants to dole and not everybody wants to dole advice. But a lot of times, a lot of people can get in your ears and it doesn't mean that that person has the key to the castle. It doesn't mean that
they know what is right and what's wrong. I remember early on in my career actually when I started doing the show in Canada about wrestling, and one of the guys and one of the executive producers at um ts N, which is like the bigger sports station in Canada, was like, don't do wrestling. No one's going to take you seriously. And I was like, I don't even have to to be taken seriously, Like that's not what I'm trying to do anyway,
So like, um, yeah, suck on that. But yeah, I would just say, like, you know, find your people that you trust, that you want to be the source of people that you want to get information from, and of course listen to people, and like you know, take things with a grain of salt. Not everybody always has the answer. There's no straight line of how you get somewhere, So
stick to what you know and what you like. And I mean, you know, it's really just getting in that experience too, and knowing what your voice is as a broadcast or who you want to be, and not letting somebody really take the reins away from you on that. I love that. I want to know about your marriage and what you know before you jumped on, Chris and I were talking about just life lessons. What makes it work you married somebody that's in your field, in your
line of work. I you know, I'll be really candid. I you know that's frowned upon in my world and probably I don't know your world too, but I used to be so worried about it in my twenties, and I did. I dated athletes. I totally did. Because we're you going to meet people for five to six days a week, and like, sorry, a normal Joe Schmo isn't going to understand my life going out here, going to bars. And I would keep it really on the d l about who I dated and yeah whatever, they were interested
in the same thing. And then obviously I ended up marrying somebody in my line of work, not a sport I covered at the time, but you did, and and how is that and maybe fun stories from meeting going. So when John and I first started dating, we kept it under wraps for like a good six months before anyone like, and it's like kind of hard. I mean, we're always all together, we're on the road or at the hotels, we're in the arenas, Like it is not
easy to like really sweep that under the rug. Um. Did you have an O ship moment where somebody caught you and you had to like play it off, because I definitely did in like a hotel lobby or something like that. Yes, I've had. Yeah, there's two to come to mind, there's one. So like there's always like the TV hotel that like most people stay in, but a lot of times wrestlers will stay and like the other they don't book their own flights but they will often
book their own hotels. So I went and stayed at the hotel John was at, and one of the other wrestlers pulled up. He's like in his rental car and he's like, what are you doing here? And I was like, and I was so new at the time that I wasn't even like sure that. I was like, oh do I handle this situation that I was like, I don't know, It's just a hotel. I booked me this. He's like, yeah, okay,
they sniffed me out so fast. But I also remember another time John I have been together for a while at this point, but um, one of it was JB L who's like legendary wrestler. His hotel room was right next to ours, and the next day, Hey, I was next to your guy, and I'm like, oh my god, I just start sweating, like sweating that I'm like, no, I mean not even just on the like sexual but I was like, what were we talking about? A panic mode? But you know that moment when you're staying in a
obviously we all do. We're staying in a hotel with colleagues and you're like, funk which room at the end, because it was I was talking too loud to my friend to whoever on the phone, Like you got the worst. I know. Yeah, especially if you're like Wine and you're like just here we go. Literally will tell someone the next day and not give a ship. I'd be like, Okay, I heard and gross or weird. I don't care, Like it's just because they'll call my ass out because obviously
this voice travels um. But yeah, so when John and I first started daying that, we did keep it to ourselves for quite a while, and then once the cat kind of got out of the bag and yeah, we've been together for a while, but John, So John really keeps to himself, like when he's he's like not the social butterfly. If you meet him, it's like he's, yeah, he just kind of does his own thing. So when he people started seeing him and I hanging around, it was like weird to them because he talks to nobody.
But him and I were always just like buddies. Yeah. People are like something's going on here, and I was like, what do you mean, what are you talking about? Oh, he doesn't talk to anybody kind of except for me. Uh So yeah, people people figured out probably quicker than we thought that they did, and then what's been your secret of staying together? Any please? I need them all. I think we know why. I will say I really looked out John is, Um he's so patient and I
can be a psychopath. Um. Yeah, like I am like constantly like at ten where he is like so mellow, he's rational, he's not like that knee jerk reaction where I'm the opposite side of that. Um. So I really
looked out that he's like so patient. Um. And I actually think it helps for us that we're in the same line of work, like wrestling such a weird world that like, if you don't get it, I'm sure for the people that are married to people that are outside the business, so many people in wrestling are married to people within the business, I'm sure when you're on the outside of it, it is nice to just like take a breather. But I find for us it's nice like
we understand. I understand the things that he's talking about. I get those ups, those downs, I know what that life on the road is like. I always felt bad for like people whose wives weren't on the road and didn't understand because I feel you you often think that that life on the road is a lot cooler than it really is, and everyone knows things. That's so glamorous and you're exacting around and it's so exactly And of course we're gonna finish up with one of our absolute favorites.
He's a three times Super Bowl champion, super Bowl m v P. Julianne Ailman or is we like to say, Jules. Uh, he's a beauty. Of course. We asked him about their historic comeback against the Falcons and Super Bowl fifty one, playing under the legendary head coach Bill Belichick, playing with his good buddy Brady. He told us Tom doesn't shower after games in shower Hill. Yeah yeah, yeah, which I yeah, okay,
and then raising his daughter Lily. I think that day we talked to him, he had either just dropped her off for first day of school had been a few days ago. But I love Jules a sense of humor, love is perspective and uh, he's turned into a little podcaster out there as well. So we love our little Julian Adelman. You and Aaron, of course, Aaron on the sidelines for that Super Bowl against Atlanta and your incredible drive. What was it, you know? Less than three minutes ago.
You guys are down by eight. I need the Julian Edelman and the Aaron Andrews perspective. We'll start with you jewels. As that was all unfolding and sort of what you now can remember stepping back from it, you know, five years later, five years later, Lady Gaga halftime by the way, right, chel, I don't even know the halftime shows of the Super Bowls we played. It been in so many you know, count right, you know whatever? Um, yeah, three minutes to go? When was that after the well did we have the
sack the High Tower sack bumble? Or was that the Trey Flower sack? You know? So like once after we came out a halftime. You know, I was a raw rock guy. It's gonna be a hell of a story. Let's do this guy start to get where? Yeah? Whatever? Um? And then like first third down back we we we hold them. I have a decent punt return, we go third down. I dropped the ball. So I'm sitting there like, damn,
that's not gonna be really good for going forward. We're still down twenty four, and so then things just started clicking, you know, everyone kind of settled down, Like we weren't really out of the game because they were blowing us out. We were out of game because of self inflicted wounds, a pick six and turnover in the red area, you know, not doing well on third down, which is something we completely talked about all week in fucking practice. I'm sorry
for swearing. Were you know, yeah, we never know, there's there's courtesies. Um. So after Trey gets a sack, High Tower gets a sack, our offense, we're starting to like pick things up, guys are working, you know. It was just nuts to see it go the way it did and and my perspective during the game, I I never think we're gonna lose, But the first time I watched it on TV, I was like just as stunned as everyone else. I'm like, how do how are we dad
to we do this? Like, you know, yeah, it's it's weird because we've been in that situation and I know it wasn't you know, in the Super Bowl, but we've been behind large leads at halftime against Cleveland Brown's two thousand thirteen. I believe Denver Broncos. We were down twenty four zero at halftime against Peyton Man and came back and won both those games. We had these crazy hero type comeback wins, so I you knew it was in there.
It was just really about settling down and really worrying about what you had to do on each and every play. And it's kind of boring to hear on my perspective, but that's really what it was like, guys. Just like no one really wanted to jinx anything because we said we saw things going right. So like like you would look over it, like I would look. I always always really close to Matthew Slater and he would sit over like across from like the special teams area, and I'd
always get it. He'd always like look over at me. I'd look over at him, and I'd be like, no, we can't look candla, you know, like like so, I don't know. Once we started getting those sacks and then once we scored got both those two point conversions, which people don't like, that's crazy to even realize how hard that is and that we were able to do that. Getting the two point conversion is very hard let alone too. But after we did that and once we won that
toss w we were winning the game. So you know, it's It's just that's why he played the game right there for those types of games, and we actually we got a Mondola for that game, so we're gonna get his perspective. I'm more interested in, like, what what is your perspective, Aaron when you were on the sideline? Well, first, I hold on, I'm asking the questions here. No, I love that. Wait first, did you did you blake out during that catch? Did you at any point like think
ship ship? Where? Like where is it? Where do you remember about that catch? Well? I remember like that whole week in practice. So that's called a shoot route, which you either run a cross over versus one safety high look or you run a middle read versus too safety high look, which is you bend it and said, you know, if it's too safeties, you're gonna bend it. Sell to go and keep it to the near up right and like the number one coaching point on that specific routes,
do not rush it. Be patient with the route because we were getting that cover five looks, so you have to make them feel like you're running the out route to create operation and then you're gonna hit it to the post. And I ran a shitty route and any time the dB on a shoot route looks back at the quarterback before you do, you're like praying, like, oh funk, we're about to throw an interception here. And so when he looked back for the ball and tipped it, I
didn't see the other two defenders. I just saw that he was in between us, me and the ball, which is never a good look. So I just went to go really try to like hopefully not let this thing get picked. And all of a sudden, one thing happens. I don't really remember the rest, but I knew I caught it. You know, it was all reactional type stuff. So and then, you know, I remember trying to get a Peter call. It's like Peter, Peter, Peter, which means you're trying to get the whole team so you can
snap it quick. I knew I called it, but I was like, hey, Tommy faked the Peter. So they call it time out to challenge it, because then if they do that, then you're gonna waste their time out. So you know, I was like Peter, Peter, and we did that, and you know, they challenged it and we thankfully got it. It was a second intent. It wasn't that big of
a play. But Danny next play hits a crosser and got contributions from everyone on the offense, and it was I mean, that was It's still crazy out there, you know, Gronk out there to go out and do it. It's a good one. Chris and I are so turned on right now, like just you know, Across routed all of this. But my perspective was was the Julio catch. Was Julio's catch before that? The third down catch? Right that was
before this? Yeah? Because once so I just remember standing there and you know, it's halftime and I'm talking to um, who the heck did I talk to whatever? I don't even remember, but it was just like this can't be. It like and then of course selfishly, don't get mad. We're thinking at Fox the super Bowl, damn it, everyone's gonna be turning off their TVs now because they're down. But then I was talking to somebody and they're like, absolutely not because they want to see if these guys
can do it. So I We're sitting there, Oh, dan Quinn, why did I blank out? I'm talking to Dan Quinn at half and you could just still tell He's just like, oh my gosh, my gosh, So Julio's catch happened, and I remember looking at my producer and being like wow, and it was right by where I was standing, and he goes, write that down. That's going to be a big one when you talk to him post game. So I wrote down, and I started and all this stuff, and then you guys started coming back. And I've told
this many times. I'm just sitting there and I'm looking at Matt Ryan because I wasn't on your sideline, and he just looks like he's gonna puke, and like he's just holding himself like this, and he just looks like he's gonna barf. And then Jewels, you make that catch, and I I just remember from the sidelines, we're all dying to see, you know, did he make it? Did
he make it? But when you go back and watch the TV copy, I think it's Troy Aikman at his best because he literally just loses it and he goes, oh my god, what a catch. And it was just a cool moment for such a polished announcer. Forget about you and how great you were. It's all about us, of course, um, but yeah, I was just and then when you guys go into overtime. It's just like, this has never happened before in a Super Bowl. Holy crap.
To hear our boss's perspective in trying to sell Super Bowl ads and happen overtime is unbelievable and what they were going for, and it was like, can you guys really do this? James White, it was just I have ghost bumps. I shaved my legs and now the hair is back, so it's very exciting. That's you guys sold commercial rights after the game to the like the other companies or well, you know when you guys were going
into overtime. The rate of the price of commercials to be played in overtime during that game just shot through the roof. And our boss tells the story about being on the phone with the sales team and being like, this is what this is going for because New England Patriot, it's Super Bowl. You guys are in overtime after being down by how much, Like this ship is going to be expensive? She expensive? It's really cool. And then the jersey was stolen? Right? Is that that? That another storyline
and that one too, that was dramatic. I mean they find the jersey in Mexico Tupac. Yeah, let's not forget Biggie involved in this one. What are we doing? What are we doing? Well, we know what you're doing inside the NFL and games with names. You have so much going on. We appreciate you taking the time to do this. And of course we got to get you a v I P parking pass at the elementary so we can't
be having an are walking. You know, there's so many cool people here in l A though, Like it's so weird, like when you go to like these little schools and you like yet like there's the TV producers family. There's like an actor like, oh, you're not like the cool roster. I'm a husband. No, give me a break. I just want to know if you're gonna have Coach Belichick on the podcast be a Beauty. If I think I know, I need to get him on. I'm trying. I just got a text message from He's got yesterday or two
day he na. He just he texts me, he goes, I'm gonna go to the Raider's joint practice, and you know, he goes, hey, man, just it was It's honestly weird that he texts me. But he's like, oh, here you're coming. The Patriot or the Raider's practice excited to see you. I go, it's gonna be excited to see you too again. Coach Yeah, yeah, plus number what's his name? The kid doesn't look good in the leven. He's too skinny for it. He goes, he goes, eighty one was taken. I wish
he was at eighty one two. But he's the closest thing to Mascia. Oh that's so sweet. Well, I've been impersonating this guy so much lately, like everyone wants to hear some bullshit story about it, and so like every time I get a call or a text from him, I'm like sitting there like, right, oh, I'm sweating literally, like he's gonna yell at me or something. But it's all a lot of fun. He understands that, I think, and yeah, he knows I love him. How is your person?
I was just gonna say, was he surprised that you went into media? I mean, he shouldn't have been when you first decided to no, because I was always I mean I was a smart ass. Once like after year seven or six, I was like I'd walk by, like coach in the hallway, and I like, hey, coach, like he's like not even looking at it, like in that tone and stuff like, and he's like gentlemen like ID he's like kind of like funk with him or you know, ask him questions. I don't know, Like I don't think.
I don't think he was surprised. I don't. Maybe that guy surprises me on how he thinks he's that like Jedi mind tricks. So maybe he does, does he not? But I don't think anyone really knows what's going on there but him. How are you surprised by him? What does he do? I I understand the mind tricks, but just give us a little into I peek at that. What does he do? Well? He just never gives his cards up. Yeah, you know, like you never really know what he's thinking. And I swear he's he'll say stuff.
Do you just say kind of my nephew, and like it leaves you like and he'll just walk away. You're like, does it is he mad? Is he happy? I'd be remissed if I didn't ask you two things real quick. You and you and Aaron are close to Tom, but not everyone has that luxury. So Gronk told me one time in an interview, was like he was giving me because it was before your guys, is one of your many a f C championship games, this one against the Colts, and he was giving me the whole like Belichick in answer,
like playing it safe whatever. And I was like, dude, this is a terrible interview, Like you gotta give me something. And so he's like, Okay, you want something. He's like, Brady doesn't shower after practice and I like spooning and like weird ship, you know, just like classic Gronk stuff. So I need a tom thing that a lot of people that he wouldn't care that you said that people might be surprised about. He gave him the show. He was a guy that shower billed a lot. He what
do you called it? What did you just call it? You called the shower pill? What is that? If you don't take a shower after practice or after work you take you're taking a shower pill. Yeah. Yeah, people used to call Yeah, that's either shower pill or he would steal two heads and you have two heads of the showers on him. Yeah, shower hog. Um. One thing that people don't you know, he loves chicken wings like the
night before games. We like, regardless of where you're at, you stay in a hotels, you have the same kind of food always, and so that's a how you you judge the hotel by the red sauce like the wings and stuff. You know, you go to the hotels this that, But every night night before game, after the QB meeting, you would always see little Brady sneaking over to the wing thing, looking around, taking a bite of a wing, taking a couple for the road, like he loves chicken wings.
I don't know what chapter the chicken wings are in this book. I'm looking by the strawberry chapter. All right, Um, as I have said in one of your guys wonderful pregame questions, something I want to work on is listening more and not talking as much. So I'm going to wrap it up by saying thank you for joining us on the Calm Down podcast throughout the year, fun interviews, fun episodes, and truly thank you, thank you so much for listening. As we joke, we're shocked that anyone listens.
So I would love to make sure that you guys know how much we truly appreciate you and I have listened to everything you have said, and I love you, and I love everybody who worked at the Calm Down Podcast. So thank you to our team and all of their support and listening to us, us and our b s. I can't even imagine need to holiday break, do they ever?
Their eyes probably roll back in their head just being like enough base chicks, this is they need to calm down, and we will and thank you for calming down with us, and we look forward to seeing you in the new year. Three is one of our favorite numbers. Let's do it. Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa is a production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the i heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.