Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Well Hello, hello, hello, Hello. Before we start, I need to talk about something because we do put these little teaser videos out on social media, and this podcast has been experienced me just moving around my house trying to find a room to podcasts from. I was in the studio at iHeart and then I started filming Great's Anatomy and it's been hard to run there. So I made it at home and I've settled on this room and
I need to show the Call It crew this. This tree behind me has been with me since I was about twenty eight. And what I love about this tree is that this has completely dyed and this is barely surviving, and I feel like this is me as a tree. The tree behind me has been with me a long time, and it's a it's a YANKI tree. Okay, this episode today was sparked by something that really truly happened, that I saw in the wild that I thought didn't actually
really happen in real life. Right, Like, this is not a situecause you saw this some movies or you saw on social media, and it's like I'm never going to really see this in the wild myself. I was driving home from an episode that we did on the podcast, and I'm driving and i see this car in the distance and it is covered in graffiti, covered the whole car right and I'm like, what is what is this? Maybe it's like an artistic thing. It clearly was not.
We got up close, and by the way, every single car in the freeway was slowing down really close to it to get like the full vibe. I may even I snapped a picture. It wasn't legal, but I just did it. I slow I did a slow down and I did a quick picture snap, which thank god it was. It was not a legal picture to take, but I
had to do it because it was so unreal. And then I sent it to Jessica after this car had this This young boy by the way, because I saw him and he was like twenty two and just you know, humiliated, had clearly been in a relationship with some girl and looked up right like he had cheated. And this girl had written like you're you're a dirty like all over his car. Everyone on the one oh one freeway knew
he had cheated. And I have never seen anything like, And I was like, damn, this girl went for revenge right, like she wants everyone to know.
And she'd, by the way, just speaking of like the cost that it will mean, like the actual physical cost that will be incurred by him because of this. She didn't miss a panel.
No, no, no, no she didn't know. No, no, she got bumper, she got there was not a inch of that car that did not know that he had cheated.
Yeah, And.
I text Jessica and I was like, we have to do an episode on cheating, revenge and the crazy things that maybe we have done, maybe you guys have done, maybe you've seen other people do after and you break up bad breakups, So here we are inspired by this this guy on the freeway. I don't know if you deserved it or not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, who knows?
What did you do?
What did you do? What did you No?
It was a little I'll be honest, it was. It was very It was a little unhinged. But you know I have had my unhinged moment in a breakup.
Well yeah, And I think that the reason why it's it's interesting to discuss is because everybody's unhinged looks different, right, So clearly this person's unhinged. The next level, that's the next level unhinged. That was just that was not just emotionally unhitched.
That was next levels.
But well it was awesome. It was criminal. Let's add to that.
It was criminal. It was a criminal offense. You could have she may be in jail, maybe in jail.
Emotionally criminal. It was criminal.
We are not encouraging any of this today. By the way, a lot of this will be illegal. Okay, So I want to know Jess.
Yeah, First of I don't.
Know how many how many serious relationships do you think you've had in your life? I don't know this number for you.
Well, I my first boyfriend was my thirteen twelve thirteen.
And you would count it as like a like a like one of them.
Well, no, I'm saying that was the first time I called someone my boyfriend and he was sadly it was he was a second runner up. I really liked his best friend.
I know that happens all the time when you're a kid. Why do you do that? You would never do that as an adult like him, But so I'll just think the best friend like you would never do that, but as a kid, you're like, it makes sense.
Yeah, I'll just be closer. I'll just be clot the way to do that. And I was full braces. He was full braces. There love it. There was a kiss.
It was it was like wonder years.
Yeah.
No, the Yeah, it was disgusting by the look on your face, it was, Yes, it was gross.
Yeah. And then I'd say, in high.
School, did you have a high school sweetheart?
I had a high school sweetheart? I did. I did. I He was my first. It was just the loveliest of all the loveliest, sweetest, sweetest. We were together for a year and I was a sophomore in high school and he was a senior. And then he went to college and we broke up because we went to college.
Yeah.
Yeah, And I got into a I got into a fender bender. Well no, I actually meant the axle of my car because we were driving alongside each other and he was like finally departing, and he was like going to the left, and I'm like romantically like leaning out the driver's side window and I've got my hand on the wheel. I'm not a very experienced driver at this point in my life, and I'm yelling.
I love you no.
And I just kind of curve to the right and I hit this really big curve and I bet my axle. And then of course when my parents were like what happened, I was like, I don't know, how did you bend your axle?
I don't know. I have no idea. I was just looking at the road and I was like, oh my god, there's the road. It definitely was not saying I love you goodbye.
Yeah. Anyways, I did have a boyfriend and cheat on me. I didn't really like him that much in high school, I like kind of just was dating him. I like the friend groups were all friends and ye, yeah we were dating, but I didn't really I wasn't that into it. Like it definitely was not love and I was very nonchalant. And then in order to get my attention, he cheated on me.
That always works. I mean, if you love some if you really want to see the deal in a relationship, definitely Yeah. And with a friend of mine, Yeah no, no, no, that's that's a guarantee my friend.
What kind of friend is that?
Yeah?
And then uh, and then he made sure I found out about it. I was actually surprised that I was upset and I actually was the time even upset, and I remember I had like my car keys in my hand, and in like a giant dramatic moment, I like threw them against the wall and then I was like, shit, I hope I didn't break my key fob. That wouldn't have been worth it.
Oh my god.
Yeah. Yeah, So then that, yeah, that was. That was high school. I guess we're doing this in a nutshell. So that was high school, and then college I was, I was. That's when I became what my my girl my friends kind of referred to me as the kissing bandit.
I didn't know this information.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd grown up in a family culture and system that was rather prim and proper and a little more conservative, a little more conservative. So for me growing up in a more conservative household about about the yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I figured that, like the slippery slope was just like everything butt like everything but sex. So just that was for me. It was a lot of the other stuff. I was the kissing bandit.
You were the kissing bandit.
I was the kissing bandit. So I was so wait for it, don't take it the wrong way. I was so open. I was like, oh my gosh, you're super funny, but like maybe yeah, like aren't like revving my engines
from like across the room. Great, let's go out. And so I really And then there were you know, some people that I dated that were like you would mean talk about like from across the room, like gorgeous, but then you end up in like a conversation and it was really like a C minus and and I would and I would kiss both of those people.
Yeah, well the kissing parts are kissing is an part of knowing, because you might not feel like your chemistry is on the your kissing you're like, wait a second, yeah, we do have we do. I was not a kissing bandit at all. I will's icy cold. Oh no, no, no, I was not. I was not icy. But I got the ick so easily from literally we should do a whole episode on just the ick right like, in fact, in fact, just listening to us right now, guys writing what gives you the ick? Because tiny things gave me
the ick? And if if I even smelt an ick coming, there was no chance of how for a makeout, I couldn't even subject these lips to any of that. So I was pretty particular. I think I would consider I think I would have I had a high school sweetheart. I had a couple serious relationships before Matt had some dating lens. I won't really call it a relation. I would think I've had about four four relationships, three really serious boyfriends my whole life, and I'll tell you one
of them kind of pissed me off. M oo mm hmm.
Oh.
He held some information for me about sleeping with somebody that I did not Yeah that I was not happy about it. It was before me, but I didn't like it was it was. And by the way, I don't know how I feel about this now, but back then, I wanted to know. I wanted the list of names of everybody that you would ever if you had looked at someone. I needed to know that acciation. I wanted the whole Yeah, yeah,
I wanted the whole thing. And he had purposely left out a very recent hookup before me and I found out, and it was explosive and granted I was I'm like twenty three, okay, so I'm still like, what's call me a baby?
Then?
And so I did do a little break up revenge ee. He happened to have laughed, his favorite blue striped shirt at my house and my apartment, I should say. And so I wrote your alling asshole in marker on the back in permanent marker. Yeah, big thick permanent marker. Took some time with that. It's like a little art project for me. And then I took some scissors and I just cut up like this, so it was kind of like a flaring. It had a fringe. Yeah, he gave that shirt a foot long fringe at the end, yep.
And that was a that was a little revenge breakup that I did. I wouldn't recommend it. I would not recommend it, but in the moment it felt so good.
Yeah.
Have you ever had like a little bit of an unhinged you know.
I went with the whole living well as the best revenge. So I would just like make sure that I was like, yeah, I was very strategic about making or that if I had broken up with someone, or if I'd been seeing someone and it had it ended well or whatever whatever, that I would magically be where they were. But like living you know, my best life.
Your revenge was the optics.
Yeah, oh, mine was like the wind fan and like the wind machines, and then like, definitely, whatever person I could be with that would make them really like, yes, I would make sure I was them, and it was all for show. It was all for show, and that was as revenge twisty as I ever.
You never did like a little throw the shirt in the trash. You never did anything like yeah, no, you're better than me, jess.
Oh it doesn't mean, I know, please please please psychological warfare or sharp beyond your shirt or project or tomato tomato. Yeah, because I think that they can eat be equally them as impactful they can.
I mean I was. I also did the optics. I did the breakup optics. And it was right when I was twenty three. Was around the time that Facebook had just started, and at first you had to be in college. You had to have a college account for Facebook, and I was not in college. I was like, not in college and I couldn't get in. There was no way of posting right oh oh yes right, and needed the college email account to get in. And back then I
was like, damn it, I don't have that. So I would go to my Space and I would use my Space. I would I would post cute pictures of me. I'd put on a cool song that was like you everything you did, You're a and I'm so hot, And then I'd have that song playing in the background and I'd be like, yeah, the optics for everything they still are come on, yeah.
Yeah, yeah yeah. First of the Hello, that's what Instagram is for.
No, well, the revenge jop decks. We're talking about revenge jopticks. Revengejopics are still happening. Would you say that you were a serial dater or more of a singleton.
A serial dater?
You were? I don't know. I was kind of on and off. I had my single moments, but.
I was, I was.
I was always looking.
I didn't love being single.
You didn't know.
It's weird because I actually loved being alone.
See I didn't like being alone.
Oh gosh, I love alone time.
Well, no, I love love love.
I mean, I clearly I live for my family, but during those very rare opportunities wherever i'm if, I realize I'm in the house by myself. Oh this is the best.
No, it is the best. I know why we're whispering.
We had whisper, we got whisper. I know we can find out. Did you what did you think was worse breaking up with someone or being broken up with.
Well, clearly I've had both. I've had you know, I've had both. Like the rest of the world, being broken up with is really painful. I think at the end of the day, it is worse doing the breakup is really hard and I was really bad at it. We've talked about this before. I was a staller. I was like, when shall I do it? Let me check when the when the when the lease is up? Do you know what I mean? Like, that's the game the date when
it wasn't necessary. What do you think I think? I think being broken up with is so painful.
Mm hmmmmmm. I was broken up with in college and I was so heartbroken that I literally, I mean the next day I wore all black like it was a funeral.
No, we've toald, Yeah, you're morning. We all it's the notoriousest breakup that was.
That was the just breakup.
Yes, so you woke up the next morning and you went to your closet and you purposely decided to wear all black.
Yeah, it was a black dress and then it was a black cardigan and some black loafers. Oh, everything about the outfit.
Yes, Oh my god.
Yep, that was me. And then and then the next time that I dealt with being broken up with, I didn't even really get broken up with. I just got cheated on, and then it was and then when someone cheats they forced you to break up. But then you're sort of like, wow, yeah, and then I think that, oh God, yes, I hated. I hated breaking up with people.
Hated hated, hated, hated, Like I mean, I think I said, it's sure, I would just have to become so awful that they couldn't possibly retain their dignity and stay with me. I mean, I.
Feel like that's a lot of people in their twenties, which is so bad. I want to tell like Hayden and Lucas, like, listen, the bravest thing you can do is just say like it's not working, instead of nonchalantly becoming a ghost, which was worse Your first boyfriend or your first job.
Well, my first real boyfriend that wasn't the thirteen year old. We both had brace's kiss in the bathroom. He was the best. Oh my gosh, I couldn't have had a better first boyfriend.
That's really cute. We have a question about the first boyfriend, though, in your twenties when you were still like, you know, you weren't married and settled down. Did he ever do a little reach out?
Yeah, of course. I had many repeat visitors come out.
Oh my god, we've all been there. I love a repeat visitor.
There were boyfriends, and then there were the boyfriends, and then there were the chapters.
Yeah yeah, yeah, they come back in. I love it a repeat visitor. I've never heard that that's the best way to describe it.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well you know what, But here's the thing, and this is I'm very grateful, and I would hope that my kids would have similar experiences, is that I did a pretty good job of navigating around the assholes. Like I dated great people like I didn't. I didn't do you know what I mean, Like I wasn't attracted to people who were going to treat me poorly. I was attracted to incredibly interesting people for very different reasons.
Like I said, I mean, I remember there was a guy I was dating and I was like, oh my gosh when I first like, just we had different chemistry for different reasons, you know, And so I really liked all the guys that I went out with and if I ever found myself in a situation where I wasn't being treated well, which definitely has happened, it would have been the first and last date. I mean, I definitely remember calling girlfriends from the bathroom some places.
Being like get me out of here, yeah.
Or just like people that were like ick, I did.
Go on this date with this guy who's pretty famous now, he was pretty famous back then. I went a little date with him, and I do remember on the first date. I won't give any more clues, but on the first date, I do remember just kind of thinking like he pulled up in this I can't believe I'm telling this story. He pulled up in this like really swinky convertible, And if you know me, you would know that that is
an ick for me. Instantly, it feels like you're showing off, Like it feels like you're like, hey, check out my car. You know. So I was immediately, you know, some people are kind of into that at that It was like such an eye roll. I was like, oh God, So I get in the car, we go to this place, we're kind of having you know, we're making out a little bit and it's fine, but I'm not super into him. He's really cute, but I was just not. I wasn't
super into him. And he told me. One of his pickup lines that night that killed it for me was he was like, I have a seen you on Californication and I was very naked Californication. Okay, he was not letting me know that he'd admired my acting skills. This was a flaw. Her comment that was basically like, I've already seen your naked, and by the way, what do you do? What do you even do with that? Like did you see it on DVD? Like how do you
even respond to that? And it just was dead. It was dead in the water.
Because because he was insinuating that he'd seen your naked, not because he'd actually seen you.
Because it was like keep it to yourself, dude, Like if I had seen someone like in a hot you know, like if I'd seen like a hot movie with somebody and I was, you know, dating that person, I would be like I saw you in that.
You know.
It's like I was like, dude, like hop some chill. It was just it killed it and it was it really didn't go much further. I do want to know this because listen. I love my dad, I love my family, but no one was getting no one was intimidated coming home to Martin Laudington's house and Wokingham, England. But you you grew up in a really different situation almost anybody.
And because your parents are Kate Capshaw and Steven Spielberg, and so I want to know, basically, I want to know if boys came over to your place with their parents, like, like what was that?
Like?
Oh, I always had I had a lot of guy friends as well as you know, boyfriends, and so I would and I and I always and I people were always at my house, and my family was always just very welcoming, and I had so many younger siblings. They were so much fun to play with, and it was just like a fun house. And I think that all my friends really loved being at my house. The boyfriends went because I actually did have a couple of guy
friends that turned into boyfriends. So those were sort of like there was some runway for them to feel comfortable, and then when they became a boyfriend, it was easier.
There was a little bit of speed bump, There was a little bit of like they would like hit that speed bump and like know that they were were at my house, and like they would just kind of like get it all together, like everything would just like get real nice and tidy, and if you know my parents, like they're definitely not like a mister and missus type couple, and so and then they would get all hung up because they wouldn't know what to call them, and then
they would inevitably call them something the wrong way, like they would call my mom missus Spielberg and she's like, I'm not missus Sielburg and then they're like, well, shit, what are you are you, miss Capshaw? And then you're like and then also, remember when I'm in high school, my mom had me when she was twenty three, So my mom is yeah, not even forty.
Yeah, and she's hot. Yes.
So so the boys are coming home and they're like damn.
Like Cash's mom is hot.
Yeah.
And meanwhile I was like I remember being simultaneously proud and a little pissed off, right Like I was like, oh, my mom's so beautiful, and then I was a little bit like, no, look at.
Me, look at me, Like yeah, well, by the way, looking over here was not going to give you a better view.
My mom was like, this is so much Oh god, I mean, come on now, but yeah, and I remember there were a couple of times where they would be it would like it would just be a different kind of circumstance because again, people would come over to our house.
And I mean, now, I think everybody watches where so many people watch awards shows, I guess in the form of entertainment, but I think back then it was a little more niche and my parents would always be going to the award show, but then we would be watching it at home. So I'd invite people over to watch
it and they'd come. They'd be coming in the front door while my parents were walking out the front door to go to the event, and so they would just be the like the picture of glamour and yeah and sophistication, which yes, I think was probably intimidating. But here's the thing, I never bemoaned it, because really what it did was create a little bit of a filter, like a little bit of like you better behave bring your a game, bring your best self, because people just felt a little
bit more. I don't know that it was intimidated because our house was very like again, it was chill.
I think it's I don't think it's like a personality like intimidation. I think it's just that it's it's to be frank, it's like Hollywood royalty, right like and and so that would be it would just be naturally intimidating, I think.
Yeah, yeah, I mean I never thought of it like that because I was in No.
Because it's your fan, because that's your family. Yeah, but that's I'm just saying, like the rest of the world.
Yeah, yeah, And I clearly, I mean, honestly, there's like when we were talking about revenge stories, I could go back on a couple of them, and I kind of wish that i'd had I'd been a little more revenge because I remember dating a guy when I first got out of college who was in He was a producer, and he behaved horribly. He was like one of the only ones that just like he did all the things you're never supposed to do in a relationship, and I just really I was so deeply hurt by all of
his behavior. And I remember thinking because he sort of worked peripherral to my parents, and I remember being like, I should tell them every single thing that he's ever done. But then I was like, eh, like, what's it? Like? What's it gonna get me? What's it gonna do? This is business?
This was them.
I know I should have Oh mommy daughter. I know I've told them since if that.
Matters, so I would have. I would have had the whole PowerPoint presentation or ready to go.
Look at what this record did. Yep. I think we should now turn it over to our crew because there areible submissions here. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the first one. Are you ready for it?
I'm ready?
Sarah wrote in and she said I broke up with my ex after finding out that he cheated on me with my mom. So I gave him back the clothes he gave me. I sprayed them with fart spray, put fake cockroaches in them, and waited for him to collect them. And I wish I could have seen his face from my car, but all I heard was him screaming like a girl, and he proceeded to throw the bag out the window. He saw me sitting in the car, and I gave him a grin, waved and drove off, blowing a kiss.
First of all, cheating with your mom is insane.
Well, I did just talk about how hot my mom was I know, but my mom is, Yeah, your mom still, My mom's hot.
Your mom's a babe. Okay, cheating in the room. Horrifying. Fart spray genius.
Mm hmm.
I actually wish I thought of the fart spray. I think the fart spray is good because it's like, you know, they're having to figure out where exactly it's the smell's coming from you. I mean like it takes a second. Yep, that's a good one. I love it, okay, Amelia wrote, and she wrote, me and my ex husband were on a cruise in the Caribbean when I found him in our room with another girl who was my best friend
in secondary school, that's in high school. I hadn't spoken to her since I was sixteen, so I found her on Facebook to get some more information. It turns out it was his cousin. What. I confronted him about it, and he told me that the fair hipping this is so juicy, the affair hippen going on for three years with the same girl his cousin. Once we got back to the UK, I packed up all his shit and left them at his auntie's house with a note that
said talk to your daughter and nephew. They can explain all to you how long they sleeping together or To this day, he still calls on, leads me, boy smells, begging me to come back. This is just disgusting. This is just really Yeah.
I don't, I don't. Yeah, I don't even know how. I love that. You're like, it's so juicy. I find it like.
Like a little puke juice. Puke juice. This is I mean. Yeah, no, it's turned my stomach. I do like the note, though, you do, Yeah, you want to leave the note?
Yeah, yeah, the note's good.
It's a good move. Nobody's fully unhinged yet, Okay, read CJ.
All right, CJ. I was in an unpleasant relationship when I was very young, sixteen to nineteen. I worked nights in a shop and came home sick one night at three am to find my partner in bed with my best friend. After throwing her out, I let my partner believe I had forgotten the whole thing, and then super glued his ballsack to the side of his leg while he was asleep. While waiting for him to wake up, I put all this stuff out on the front lawn.
I literally by the way, I'm so glad that you read that. For some reason, it's really funny hearing you say the word ballack super good and I was just saying that none of our crew was unhinged. This does border unhinged. Oh gosh, super glue to ballsack. I just you know, I understand what that is.
Sorry, I'm just I go literal. I'm trying so hard to like, did she know he was a deep sleeper? Did she like pulled the ball sack away from his leg? How much did she know to put on?
Well, my question is do you glob the leg first or do you glob the ball? I think you globed the leg and then you smushed the ball. Luck because if you glove the ball, I feel like no, but I do we need instructions and then.
Depending on how tidy they keep things. I mean, you're dealing with the whole hair situation.
You're definitely dealing with hair. It's like, what do you Okay, so you wake up and you have a super glue, do you go like, how do you I mean, you can't get the scissors where you go?
No, you're looking for like some kind of solvent, but probably a guy is not even going to know a solvent is what you need, and she's nowhere to be found. So good luck.
You're driving yourself to the yarn you've got to reveal.
Yeah, but better than better, I mean better than on his actual genius, right.
Because I don't know, guys, I want to know what's more sensitive. I'm assuming that the uh shraft is more it's the.
Shaft is glued while it's not excited in the world out there in the world thinking about it gets excited. What happens to the glue God?
So many questions. It's almost like we need that show, remember that show that like did all those science experiments? They never did this.
What are you talking about? Well, they didn't glue people's balls.
No, I'm just I have questions I have. This is not I'm not reading this and then I'm done with it. I know.
No, No, we need to move on.
I think we need to move on.
Yeah. Also, I'm just gonna say, I'm just gonna throw it out there that if you're sixteen, you shouldn't be working nights.
Sorry, that the moral of the story is take a day job. Take a day job, take a day take a day job. I think that's what we've learned, okay. Nikki Clark wrote, I found out my ex was cheating on me. She denied it relentlessly, but messages do not lie. We were being in a house share with some of my friends and it was decided she wasn't coming back. My friends and I packed up all her shit and furniture and left it out in the garden for her
to collect. She had two cats that lived with us, so when collecting all of the cat stuff up, I emptied the litter tray full of poop into the zipped up sections of the sofa cushions. Revenge is best served shitty sometimes. I mean, it's really gross into the zipped up section. I feel like that's gonna be hard to clean. That's hard to clean.
That's gross.
It is really gross.
I mean, Nikki, I'm not judging. I'm just saying I'm not well.
I don't like the cheating. I don't and I don't like the denial. I don't like the denial of there. The cat poop is a is a I mean, it's.
A choice, ew, just the whole thing.
It's just do Yeah, what wasn't gonna be nice? Was it? She wasn't gonna fill perfume.
Like, Okay, would you rather have your balls glued to your leg? Or would you rather have.
Oh cat boop you?
By the way, you don't even have balls to like.
Actually, I already know nobody wants a ball glued. You don't even have to have them to know that's fucking liability, you know what. I want to hear more, obviously because this is super entertaining, But I think I love this one. I feel like we can't top We need to take a second. And I don't say that often.
What you're leaving me in suspense?
What? No, we need to after the ball story, I need to take like I feel like I need I just need a moment, you know. I want to continue on with more, but I think we gotta pause.
For the balls.
We gotta pause for those. We gotta pause because we're not gonna beat that story today. We may later listen if you can beat that story.
Yeah yeah, but also don't make it up. We'll know, we'll know. We want real stories.
Yeah, because some of the some of the stories that did get you know, they were too shenaniguinea. I mean true, but but but it read like an action movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I think we need to add a PSA.
To those of public services a little bit.
In public service. Now, we don't condone any of these stories. We are merely sharing.
What happens when you're unhinged, when you're unhinged in some people, just like we were talking about our airplane stories, like one person's unhinged, yes, someone else's totally together, and vice versa.
So I think we can agree these we were not totally together in these stories, including myself. Do I you know that shirt hat should not have been made into a fringe dress.
This didn't look like car wash flaps.
It really should not have. This was hysterical though.
Oh my gosh, it's just so funny. You know why it's funny is that we just it's further proof that human interactions are so creative and nuanced and individual and wild.
Are we calling this creative?
We're calling this very creative. Okay, some of the names that are written sorry nay spray painted on that car. We're creative. It was illegal again, We're just saying that it was creative.
Artistic.
Revenge is a creative act.
It can be, it can be. That's what the crew is showing us but again illegal.
Yeah, no, very illegal, very legal. Again, we don't condone. There's better ways to deal with this, yes, yes, exactly. All right, Well, you know what, thank you for showing us the good, the bad, and the ugly. We appreciate it. And I think that probably we've I've learned a little bit during this episode. I'd grown, I've reminisced, I'm nostalgia thrown in there for sure. We've more stories where that came from.
We're going to share some more so much.
Oh my gosh. All right, let's call it.
Let's call it the end of the episode.