What happened beyond the way with you and and BKA. That's like to where Florida, Georgia Lian can't be forever?
Yeah, a good question. I mean for me it was it was really unexpected. Uh. But BK came to me and said, Man, I'm really feeling like I want to do a solo thing. Stupid garden games, Lisa language movie, no simple.
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Yeah, I was banging that not like us.
It was not like us.
Kendrick lamore his little West Coast beat.
Did you Yeah?
I did. I was listening to this morning. I basically listened throughout you know, listen to all their beef songs this morning while I was working out, because they have there's like five or six.
Now, wait, since since Saturday when Kendrick released that Glove one.
The glove one was was the glove one meet the Grahams.
No, the Glove one was like six something oh six Oh yeah, it's six sixteen.
Dude, did you see did you.
See the whole thing on six sixteen? Because apparently Drake said something about like you better come out with a quintuple with something I don't even understand, and there was like a Bible verse of six sixteen, like seven things that God hates and he goes off and the and the song has seven things God hates, and then there was like the album release date. The producer was Taylor Swift's it all I kind of came together. It was like seven things because of six sixteen. Yeah, it's nuts.
Yeah, it's it's been a back and forth uh rap battle, as the boys like to call it.
I always have trouble following rat battles because it's like you have to listen to this song multiple times to understand.
I know, and you need to know the context in history, like I found myself on Instagram and YouTube listen to these people break down. There's an incredible breakdown yesterday day. I forget who the cat was. But it's like seven minutes long or five minutes long? Which one? Did I say? You on Instagram?
Yeah?
Yeah, I forget you send it to me on Friday.
See that's a different one. That one's just a breakdown of euphoria. Yeah, that was just a breakdown of euphoria. Then this cat breaks down that the history of like people, a lot of people in the industry like hating Drake. It's like the weekend, Uh take a back, Rick Ross.
He goes through like a timeline of it all going, you know, basically building up the way it is, and Kendrick Lamar having all the you know, subtle comments and the depth to each little bar that he has, Like he's like breaking it down.
So obviously I don't know a whole lot about this, dude. Does anybody know the origin story of how Kendrick and Drake started going at it?
I couldn't even tell you.
But why why is Kendrick coming on? See, there's a whole bunch. I would love somebody in the has to tell me everything that's going on with this, because I don't know how this all started.
Yeah, we got five white guys trying to break down exactly, and it's you know, we're just the wrong population to be doing this right now.
But Drake has a lyric that's like I'm doing twenty verse one or something. Like that, talking about like all these dudes coming at him, but he's still murdering all of them. All this stuff that I just don't get. I don't understand.
Yeah, yeah, other than the and then people people, people, we got these, we got these, we got and we're growing him in this thing.
The spring is such a beautiful time. But as spring goes this summer, this fight cast some radiation. Yeah, the amount of bugs I have in my house right now is insane. Look at this motherfuck I know that he's just ripping around.
It's a thick boy right there. Yeah.
Oh oh yeah, you have him to rest on you. He don't look like he's resting anytime. So, no, he got all the energy.
JP's got a little bit of space to work with. If that.
Did you get his ass? No, nope, he's right here.
He's right here.
Anyway, People probably dont want to listen to us.
Is this all good news? Though? We get to do a We'll get to run through this intro fairly fairly faster because we have a awesome guest on with Tyler Hebby today. Yes, the breakup of Florida Georgia Lion will be the headlining story of this whole thing.
And we shot this episode what like a month ago, a couple months ago, when Tyler was coming out. He came sat on the bus. Dude, was the conversation was incredible?
Yeah?
Yeah, it was one of those classic busts with the boys or gaining conversations where you feel like things are just flowing great. The entire time. Tyler was very shared a lot lot with the struggles, the trials and tribulations, the origin story of Florida, Georgia line, all of that stuff. But there's been the reason why I say we filmed it so long ago, there's been so many developments since then.
Uh BK.
Brian Kelly his ex I don't know co singer, would you call it his ex partner? He came out with a a song that says you can kiss my boots now. If you listen to the song on your own, it just sounds like a guy. Have you heard the song? If you listen to the song on your own, it really just sounds like a guy and a girl broke up and the girl's talking shit about the guy and he's like, you know, there's a small town. I hear everything,
blah blah blah. But knowing there was a breakup, and a lot of people in the fan bases of Flora's a line kind of picking a side John a line down the middle. You gotta pick b k or Tyler. A lot of fans are coming out and say, hey, this is about Tyler. All this there's like a snow We got a country battle. We got Yeah, we had a cout, we got we got Ketrick Lamarn drink, and we got a country Battley and Tyler. Yeah, we got a southern battle going down with the boys over here
in the southeastern area of the country. Is So there's a lot to read into, but this is actually a great episode. He was really gonna enjoy it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a That was a song that you dropped, right, I dropped in our group chat yeh gotcha? Yes, yes, yes, I didn't get to I listened to some of it, but I didn't get to listen to.
You can listen to it, and it's very easy if I just say to you it's about Telller Hubbard, and you go listen to a song, you're like, this is one hundred percent about Tell Hubbard, but zero context to me. I was trying to listen to it like without having an year trying to be biastors Styllar. It felt. It also felt like a breakup song. So it's a fun. It's creativity boys. Boys are getting creative in the lab, getting after it.
They want to get in the laugh. They want the example of Kendrick and Drake, like now, right now they should be taking notes. That's how you need to be handling a beef because because whatever albums they drop from here, from here on out, their next album is gonna do. Yeah, Drake does anyway, but h and so does Kendrick. But knowing that this beef is going on, I know, it's just got all It reminds me. It's like when the Rock and the Undertakers are showing back up in the WWE.
Everyone's going nuts. You got older generations, everybody kind of coming together to watch all this unfold because the rat Battle still hasn't happened for such a long time.
Yeah, I wonder there are conspiracy theories about this whole rat battle thing. And as it's like shown that if you get in an ur with another person of popularity, your number are gonna go up because their fans are gonna.
Want to watch you and vice versa, Yeah, do.
You think this has been this manufactured?
Yeah? No, could so?
Could it have been?
Though? I know, but if you if you're if you kind of follow the timeline of everything, you see Kat Williams, even when he's on Shannon Shark's podcast, he talks about you're twenty twenty four, people are gonna start getting exposed, and people are alluding that to like, oh, this is a you know, Drake's part of this Yeah, Cat Row part of this group.
Yeah, Alex Jones.
Yeah, they're both. Yeah, they're both. Like Drake is so polarizing. It's like his latest one, it's basically just saying like, oh, you're lying, which you don't really know. And then he said he baited him, he baited him to make the
songs before that. But it's like, if you knew you're abating him, why don't you have like actual like say, your phone's out and you're recording yourself like hey, we're about to get his ass type of thing, and then you're showing yourself give the information Like if you're that, if you're that much playing chess, I don't know why you wouldn't do that kind of show that off versus you know, you kind of sit back, you can let comments and the war everybody's words unfolded, and kind of
use whatever narrative fits you know, that next song. It kind of reminds me a lot of like when a when all the ab stuff was going down from with the Raiders, and people like, oh, there's probably more to the story here. There's probably more to the story there, and everybody's given him the benefit of the doubt, and then he kind of allows people to paint a certain narrative and then he'll lean into that one because that's what best suits him in that moment.
The rap battle thing is interesting because there is really a book pretty much written for it. Eminem batt Yeah, he's there was another track, but I'm talking about like strategically, Like if you look at MGK before he ventured off and went into the punk rock scene, he had that song uh Devil, oh geh rap Devil, and it was about Eminem. The next I think in the within the twenty four hours, Eminem had kill shot on MGK and it was just him going ham on MGK for a minute.
And so I don't know why it's that, That's why things just seem manufactured to me, like all this stuff's just coming out now, like we're all the kind of planning you released and all released and you release.
Yeah, I don't know. I think that. I think it's been fun.
Once again, it's a category that we Yeah.
Yeah, I sit back in my Oh, some of the boys are dropping the group chat. Oh another disc track comes up. Oh shit, Oh, take a listen. Yeah, I wonder what he means here, what he means there. I'm trying to research articles to stay privy to the culture, you know what I mean.
Yeah, I was at Franklin Factory and that when one of the boys put the disc track in the group chat, I was taking a twosy and the bathroom. I just had it on loud, listening to it myself, full volume and the whole time, Like, I gotta listen to this four more times just to understand the lyrics because it's difficult. It's hard to pick all that ship up.
Dude. Yeah, but it's also so that's a little humid in here, A little sneaky one came out.
Huh, A little humid in one just greased out of the pipes.
Hu.
So I think so, yeah, that creativity man to be able to just go out somebody that hard.
I know, bro, it's awesome.
It makes you appreciate Roan that much more.
Did you listen to rons this track on KFC?
You check on KFC?
Yeah, check that one out just murdered him in cold blood? Yeah, And then I KFC was saying that that they were texting. He's like, hey, I have something written, like, you know, basically asking how much farther do we want to go with this or YadA YadA, and he goes, no, no, it was no, it wasn't manufactured. But KFC's texting with him, trying to, like, you know, find where the line could potentially be. He's like, if I released this, you know, will you have anything else? Blah blah blah, and Ron
basically responded like, I'll empty the clip. I will end you if you put this out. If you put something out, put something else out. But Rone, that's you don't want to get involved. We got a espressos Yeah yeah.
Lock it him with a lucy real quick, brother. I hate to kill your vibe. I didn't want to kill your flow there.
It's like, you don't want to get in beef with Ron because of the rat battleship, and you don't want to get into beef with Francis because of the blogging.
If you if you had to categorize who you don't want to make upset at barstool, it would probably go Dave number one, obviously, and then Francis, and then Ron and then probably Big Cat.
See I don't to me, I don't think Dave would be the number one. Really, I don't think Dave would be. If I'm going into a beef thing with Dave being number one, I would be more concerned about, like a Francis.
In a Ron because creatively, how they would end.
Yeah, like they can, they can big brain hurt your feelings. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Like god, damn.
I saw a clip of Francis like on Instagram the other day doing stand up. He is so fucking funny.
Yeah, genuine Francis is good.
Him and his girl starting to try and she's got a whole new bag of tricks. He's like, that's crazy. I've been giving you everything I have this whole time time, and I just think to myself, bro, how do you think of that? It's amazing?
Yeah, yeah, that stuff like Francis and Roan have the the ability language a lot wise verbally to just somebody like me, you just gotta go animal brain and you just resort to fighting, you know what I mean, because there's there's nothing you can do. You just get so yeah, bamboozled. It's you kind of can't keep your wits to you. If it's like Dave or Big Cat, like those will
be those will be fun battles. But you know, you're just like, you know, I don't know, they seem a little bit more fun like Roan and Francis, you're kind of sitting back like, man, what the fuck is about to happen?
Yeah. The thing, the reason why I brought up Dave is number one is because his following is so strong and he just he literally he has a track record and he has receipts of ending people.
Yeah. I mean, you'll get ratioed into oblivium oblivion. Yeah. But as far as reading and listening to the stuff.
Creatively, if you're talking about just one on one, like to verbally go back and forth with Dave or Big Cat, you feel like those are like more suitors for your cate, right, you could ultimately be like curse words and a lot of insults, but at the end you're couple far.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm just trying to be like trying to be funny about it. Like Ron and Francis legitimately are just in a different category than us that we wouldn't be able to handle it.
Verbally. Yeah yeah, I would say on who's bad side, I wouldn't want to be on in in a like a like a beef in the Barsil world, I would say.
I want to change my I'm gonna change mine as well, because I think Dave does go down the list.
Now, let's say Francis, Ron, Dave, that would be my top three. That'd be my top three. It's a good list.
It's a good list. Those are the three. Something about sneaky guys though, Rico and Jersey Jerry, not from them, just from their their little armies that just follow them around and are truly willing to come and cause you and actually murder you.
I feel like they're they got.
They have people that legitimately, if like I really came down to it, would come to your house and kill you.
Like for them, like everybody has audiences, they have soldiers exactly that those would there'll probably be four and five because he gets malicious. Yeah, yeah, because he's trying to have a good time. He he does try to find them.
He tries to do it in a fun way where he like, like like the draft when we were there, he was like, oh, hey, who are you the whole time. It's like, Oh, he's having fun. I'm glad he's having a good time with this. Yeah, as opposed to Dave, who's just I mean, yeah, he'll come after you. He does you, man, he just comes at you.
So is your top through the same.
Yeah, I mean I would probably put David three after this.
Problem Jerry in there so that way we can have just have I I.
Would go.
Top three people you don't want to kind of get in a spat with. I would go Francis probably one, just how he handles himself on the mic, and in the writing category, I would put Rome two because he's just more creative and whatier than both of us. And then I'd probably put Jerry three. I think ever since Jerry after Dark, ever since the Hole in one, the Chat, he's just got the chat. He has the chat, and
the chat will handle you. And like I said before, if he if you and Jerry truly got into it where there was like true beef, like a Kendrick and a Drake situation. Jerry's gonna have a Baker's dozen people lining up lining outside your door to truly actually not joking, murder you. And they're ready to Jerry's army, right, yeah, Jerry's Army's arm Jerry, what we have?
Hey, I'll tell you what And I don't want this, bros. Don't sleep on kirkman Inahan. Well, we were talking about don't sleep on kirkman Inhan. Whatsoever? I forgot about that one. Hey, and all the mini fans out there people, Yeah, I'm not trying to fester up, nobody, do not sleep on kirk Inhan.
We were talking in Alabama before the live show. I would love to feel the wrath of Kirkmanahan, like losing his ship on me.
Yeah.
I would appreciate that moment of just not where I'm being the bad guy, but like he's getting worked up and was say, hey, what's the big deal and then he just fucking I'm the person that he decides to go in on even though I've done nothing to him. I would enjoy.
He'd find an angle I don't think. I don't think. You just ah, maybe you'd be able to smoke him out, but he'd find an angle, he'd find it, he'd find an well.
When I was watching Barstool Survivor, it seemed like he just took whatever angle he wanted.
Yeah, but he'll find he'll find He'll find him in there in their moments, and then that's when he gets you.
That's how he snipes you.
That's how he snipes you. Bro.
God, that Barsool Survivor thing would be a fun thing to do.
I think they're working on trying to get another one going.
I'm down.
I know you're on the way.
They've asked me for you if I want to do it. I was like, yeah, I would absolutely do it. I think that'd be a lot of fun. I think it'd be fun if you were there biz with I know, I'm not trying.
To be in the office for I'm telling you it is kind of a bas bro.
Is maybe the most underrated Barstool talent.
I don't know if he's underrated. I think he's He's probably right, Yeah, I mean he's well on the Name Show with.
Day Yeah, I just whatever, I'm around him, I'm just like, what I like. The reason why I think he's underrated is when I get around with I enjoy myself more than I expect to enjoy myself, you know what I'm saying. Like I get there, I'm like, Oh, we're gonna we're gonna do a standbager with the boys. Oh, that'll be fun. I don't like golf, but it'll be fun to hang out the boys. And then I can sit with winn a cart for nine holes and I'm like, this is way more fun than I expected.
Yeah, is funny man the best, the best self deprecating, that's the best humor.
Absolutely, I think before you get away from people roasting each other, it's probably the perfect segue for.
The Tom Brady roast. Yes, no, this is the screen. Do we want to pause real quick?
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The over under reminded me of you and I were tagged in the video of this high school kid who drank five bottles of water in under twenty seconds.
Oh, I saw that. You saw that. I mean, I'm not telling it. I'm not touching him.
Jack. I'm gonna send this to you and then can you put it? Put it up real quick, because I.
Think we need it. It's insane. He basically he basically sits there and he has the five waters, and I think that he wasn't allowed to do it at school, like the teachers like, yeah, yeah, teacher, they had to go off, they had to go off scripting. He challenges like me, Taylor, and I think.
It's a little jack too.
Kids got a little muscle, a bit of a specimen. Yeah, he challenges like me, Taylor and McAfee. Yeah, he's got five waters lined up, five bottles of water and he basically just goes Jack. I did.
I I saw all five of Yes, all five of them. This is the kid right here.
All right, So I was not able to do this at my school's talent show.
If you're not allowed to do this, all.
Right, even the leave it's a talent. Today, I'm gonna be doing the five water bottle.
Chug I nominate Taylor Lewan, Will Compton and Pat McAfee to try this challenge.
Rules are pretty simple.
Down the water on my guest, Sean, just on me, on me, very thank you one.
That's good.
Oh my god, get a twenty seconds.
Again.
You got a little shoulders on him. He knows what he's doing with the one size too small and the T shirt too Bro obviously plays the middle linebacker.
Yeah, I mean I've heard video.
Oh it's four bottles.
You can just play it though, like as talking, now, cut us out and just play this video.
Yeah you can see. Look and I like his technique. But here's what he does. He does a really good job of hiding the entire bottle. See when he crushes it, you don't know if he's taking all that. There's probably a couple of ounces in there. That's the cheat code.
I don't know, Bro, he's fucking squeezing the life out of him.
But I think we should try this, I mean, I I commented.
I mean, yeah, I'll do it. I'll fucking put him to rest. Hey, you might have met your maker. Bro.
That's fast. That's fast.
There's also water, so meaning much easier.
To know if he threw up afterwards.
Yeah, I gotta know if he threw up afterwards. Water, anything that's not carbonated is obviously easier to drink because the carbonation will kind of float float up your tube a little bit.
That's right, Because the way you put down that twisted tea and then it kind of just came out of your nose, it was so fast.
Yeah, I had that deviated septum.
Yeah, but it does.
That happens all the time to me, even doing beer.
He like, put it down. It's just dude, the close up JP.
You cut that clip from Alabama Live Show. Dude, that was I knew something came out, but I didn't know drained out. It looked like that like a oil. It's called like a netty pot you put in your nose, it just kind of comes out. That's what it's like for my nose.
But it was literally like and then you had a certain look on your face, like if you're in a horror film and you just look over at your buddy, what's happening in Taylor and you just kind of stand there and ship just pours out of your nose.
You guys were going, oh, And I was like.
What happened the roast of Tom Brady. I haven't got to watch. I know I want to see, but I've seen a lot of the clips on the internet. What a night that must have been with the boys. I know.
Fights was there too, Yeah, I think I saw a picture of him. Yeah there, Yeah, rich Eisen.
Where was this at?
Uh Burton?
Tom Burton? Tom sneaking in there?
But when they look at this, gosh, dude, that clip you just had up, Jack, I saw well. When I saw Will this morning, I was like, hey, that's a nice little post you had about real in the nine days guy I spent together, and Will was talking about how he was tearing up even right in the past.
Yeah, boy was kind of jerking the tears a little bit. Making that made you cry on your own videos.
It's wild how your kids will just make you cry for no reason.
It just turned you into a pussy dude.
Yeah, baytime, puss, dude, puss.
I'm sitting there. I was like, Oh, I'm like, sweet ar, I'm making up a I'm cooking up a reel right now and I almost can't get through it.
Yeah, fights, fights made at Rich Eisen was there just in the crowd, Dana had himself sixty seconds from the crowd. Apparently, I didn't you told.
Me that, right? Yeah, he started off with a transgender joke right out of the gate. In Netflix ratings good, I'm curious how many people had like a comedian or roaster right for them?
Had to be a lot of them.
Yeah, Julian Edelman. Did you see his singer? No oh bro? Yeah, from the top rope. He's like Bill. You know, Bill would always say like, what the fuck are we doing here? We can get somebody from Foxborough High to play like this basically, and then he goes, I'm waiting a long time to say something like this. Got a good little laughing, and he's like, what the fuck are you doing? Foxborough High? Is the only job offer that you have? Murdered him. Yeah,
Bill's laughing like it, dude. It was awesome.
So they had a good time.
Yeah, Bill Belichick's roasting everybody. He's roasting Gronk. He's like, uh, you know, I'm known for do your job. I'm known for telling players, hey, just do your job. He's like, Gronk, I spent the season watching you on Sunday, like Football America, Sunday foot whatever, the show where he's on the panel with uh straight hand.
And all those boys Sunday Night football apreciow.
Yeah, and he goes, he goes, Gronk, you need to stop doing your job killing and then uh kill Tony. He had a run Bro clip on on Twitter. Matter of fact, should we just watch? Should we just listen to it? Can you guys hear it all back there? Okay, you've seen it. I mean, just he's killing everybody. You said Dane's was good too, Yeah, oh, won't be able to see. Okay in near mind, we don't really get
demonetized deep platform deep, but kill Tony's. Like I knew Gronk was here because they ran out of all the chocolate milk in the back, so I knew he'd be sitting up here like just messing with him on the like being like a little kid. Yeah, but Gronk was there.
Who's the dude? Schultz? Andrew Schultz is there?
Andrew Andrew Schultz is there? Do you just get done watching YouTube videos on how to depo black guys?
The Burton Burton Tom just staying there talking about Tom Brady's photo. I just saw that one clip of them, like genuinely laughing about it. I just those two together. Yeah, it's just automatically funny.
You gotta touch on what he got.
Looks like he got mad at Jeff Frost about Robert Craft.
That's the only clip I have not seen. I saw that clip Taylor was telling me about.
That Craft makes a joke or not Craft. Jeff Ross makes a joke about Robert Kraft having a good time ball blah, how great the franchise is, and then kind of just pauses for a second says do you want a massage? And the crowd does the uncomfortable laugh like we're all like, oh, yeah, yeah, but you want those in a row, like you want to go too far in a right And Tom Brady pulls a Will Smith and walks up and whispers and Jeff Ross's ear cut that ship out and you can hear him over the mic.
So that's all I was gonna ask. Do you think it was real?
Do you think That's what I'm curious about, wonder? That's why I asked, did it seem like it was real?
And the thing that we have to I'll have to watch like the real I'll have to watch the whole thing through. But all the clips I saw whenever they panned Tom he's kind of doing the uncomfortable like not like he feels uncomfortable in his own skin type of thing.
Click that hyperlink up there with the confrontation with Jeff Ross. Maybe it'll have that video. I think he's playing.
You think he's playing.
I think he's playing. Yeah, I think he's I think he's playing right there. That was like Tom, like, yeah, just coming to coming to bat for his guy.
Yeah, I mean that is a it's a deal, and that's amazing too. Held that whole Robert Craft massage thing kind of it was like in the news for twenty four hours. It was a quick little deal.
Yeah, bro, I'm watching. I'll save my shout out. But hey, the cats at the top man, it's you know you they're untouchable.
Oh conspiracy, not conspiracy, it's just I'm yeah.
Yeah, they're just I just think untouchable.
What about the flake gate?
Do you see that joke?
No? Oh see, that's why I hate it because I want to watch it and I can't wait to talk some shows because I'm stuck right now. And that's the only reason why I wasn't watching this, because I was like, I gotta get this show, and dude, I'm binging it hard right now.
I was laying in bed last night, I thought I should put this on for the show tomorrow.
Do you want me to? Yeah? Yeah, sure. Oh he admits to the flay Gate the uh, and that he the flay Gate's real. But Bill Bill steps up and he's like, uh, I'm excited to be here at Tom Brady's roast, not to be confused with the ten part docu series on the Roast of Bill Belichick. I once started laughing at that Craft is sitting there because that
was like a hit job on old Bill Belichick. Everybody's I feel not every When I say everybody, I mean like players I feel like have been vocal about like they hated the way the docu the docu series was. I personally loved the Dynasty Docks years because I'm not like a Boston like, you know, growing up in the Middle West. You don't see all the Northeas stuff like how everything was shaken up back in the early two thousands. So I thought it was a cool, like look inside
of everything. But then once you get to the end of it and you see Julian Edelman and all these players kind of talking about it. You see that it was like a like a like a hit job on Bill. And then Kraft I want to say, either at the head the owners the Owner's summone or something to where they're kind of interviewing him, and he's like, oh, I kind of hate the way that they portrayed Bill. And it's like, Bro, you you for sure signed off on every episode before it went out there.
Yeah, it's interesting how big this country is and how you kind of like in your own little your own little area based on where you grew up. And because when you and I watch it and all of us, I think we all really enjoyed the Dynasty docuseries. But then you talk to people that are like like Dave, we talked to him at UFC two nine.
He hated it.
Edelman didn't like it. People that were in that world and have been a part of that world since this Dynasty started seem like there's a consensus that they don't like it very much. Yeah, Yeah, compared to us who just watch it are like kind of like, oh my god, this is fucking insane.
Yeah, which I kind of feel. I kind of feel the aspect of like they won a lot of Super Bowls and football games, obviously, but they seem to always talk about the down times and the down years. They kind of fast hoard or skip through when they won. So I get that, but did so them docu series? It seems like it's just hard to hit, hit or miss on. Like everybody hated the Florida Gators one.
Well, that one was bad. Now the Florida the Swamp what was it called swamp Kings, Swamp swamp Kings there is it should have been a five part series. They're trying to put all that information with all those characters at the Florida in a forty five minute episode is just not doing your service. You don't even touch on the Aaron Hernandez stuff, you know, like you hardly touch on half the things. So it kind of becomes that
could have been way better. The problem is is the Last Dance with Michael Jordan is one of the best documentaries I've ever seen, and how people are trying to
redo that and the Dynasty could have been that. It could have absolutely been that if they would have just taken the time to check every single box, because in the Last Dance they do such a great job of talking about the highs and the lows and finding the balance there, of showing like the struggle of how it got there, but also like this dude Michael Jordan, who like was not taking no for an answer at all, like how he was an asshole to people, And that
is Michael Jordan looking at an iPad be like I took that personally seventeen times. Like they did such an amazing job. I've literally seen that documentary. I think I've rewatched it twice.
Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah. And with the Jordan one, I mean that's decades after he's done playing. Like this one's fresh out of the gates and out of the game. Is obviously going to be some politicking going on. I feel like, so maybe a little bit of rush, you think, Yeah, I think so. And again it's it's more from one
it's more from one angle, and it's fresh. It's like the Jordan one you got to your years that went by and then I'm sure people were just the writers and the content team and the creative team were just dialed in on how they wanted to tell the story.
And it's over one guy, right, versus like an entire organization. Yeah, But that's the thing is like if Tom Brady, this is Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft, and if you were to take maybe a few more years and able to like surround all the storylines together and lay it out great as far as like you're saying, like not just put it down so quickly, it would have been such a better product. The one thing that I thought they did really well was quarterbacks this past year.
Omaha Productions and Netflix did that. I can't wait to see receiver this year. The receiver is going to be elite. Are they also also they're starting a new one season of receiver and they're doing the second season a quarterback. What they need to do is tight ends. Do you have so many tight end personal right now?
George is in it is Travis Kittle, Yeah, George Kittle is in receiver.
Yeah, George is doing a great job of creating that brand.
They need it.
They need to do. They need to get some hogs. Yeah, I just know what I mean. It's just so yeah, it's just some big boys. But it's probably would probably be so hard to like garner content from it because the big boys they just.
They don't want to They don't want to talk. It is.
I don't want to get out there like that. I don't care.
No, it's it's changing, It really is. There's a changing of the guard right now of like the older generation the new generation where offensive linemen are really starting to talk, really starting to find their personalities. And I think it's going to be in the next couple of years you'll have that opportunity to do like an offensive line thing.
Yeah.
Probably no. I oh, it's like I think, sitting here right now, yes, like right, my personality right now, how I've like zoomed out of football. I think it had been really difficult for me if I was like week four into the season and having a tough game, or you know how it is when coaches are always kind of on you and always being like that's not good enough, that's not good enough, and to think, oh, this is
getting filmed. I think I would really I would have really struggled with that, finding a balance of like keeping the same you know, attitude every single day.
Right, but Devil's advocate. By that point, you'd have already signed the dotted line to do it, because you don't know you're having those trials and tribulations.
I think in the off season, you'd catch me and I'd say yes, yeah, and I got in the middle of the season, I'd be like, why the fuck did I do this?
Yeah, it would be.
It would be because it's such a it's warfare mentally and physically the entire football season.
That would be so dood, But it still comes out as a positive. Yeah, it's a lot of it's a lot. It's a lot of things that people don't see.
Yeah, I would have I would probably do it. I would most likely do it, but I would just sitting here now, I think, knowing my mental state back then and how it was all ball all the time, I would have a more difficulty. I had a hard time doing this show during while I was playing, and that was once a week.
Yeah, but I mean we were doing it for three years. Yeah, it would be.
It would be a hard thing.
You would have done. You would have done Hogs, You would have done Hawks, Yeah, you would have done Hawks.
Who would have been who would be in it right now? Hoggs? Like right now, Lane Johnson, Trent Williams, Jason Kelsey, Jason he's retired.
Oh yeah, that's right, he said, right now.
Zach. Dude, Zach doesn't really talk.
Do you think Quent Nelson would do it?
I think he would, I do. I think Quentin would be really good. That's a good one. We'll put him in there. He's my boys in limbo right now. Would be fantastic. If he was old Packer's Block right now, he'd be a perfect candidate for it. You know what I think would be a good candidate is oh Dean Dawkins.
Yeah, he wills.
There's four and I think one more. You throw in like a Lamby Tunsil now you have big names. Lamby loves fashion. He's a good ball player. I don't know his personality very well, but I know Dean would do a phenomenal job. Bach Man, Yeah, here's some more cats right here. Tristan would be good. Pinay, I dude, so pinay swell. I don't know a whole lot about this cat. I haven't seen a whole lot about his film is as he says, pa suwel, but he apparently talking to
like a couple of lines guys, says he's the best dude. Really, Yeah, he's like one of the greatest cats. Awesome to be around, hard work, just on a massive deal. I think twenty three million a year. Yeah, he's big dog, big dog deal playing RT too, Yeah, which is impressive.
So I think he'd be good.
Yeah, Jordan would be really good. But I think if you had to pick between Jordan and Lane, who you taking because you don't want two guys in the same team.
A family friendly events.
Jordan over Lane because he does.
He was huge with the singing for Jason's album last year.
I'll tell you that.
Every time and Polynesian you check the box. Yeah, I'm saying you gotta have one, you know what I mean.
Yeah, Yeah, most of the dudes we've said are black or checking the box.
True.
So if any we need more white guys.
Yeah, I mean you can't go wrong with either ones.
Both great guys, both great guys. I don't know Jordan's very well. But what about Shawn Slater? Do you know anything about him?
No, I don't. I know.
He's a good ballplayer, had a bicep last year. They need to do rookies.
Just called the rookie, call it rookie.
Yeah, that might be a bust with the boys production. Ronnie Stanley too, I think he would do really well. I think he would do well.
JJ Watt. Did you see that he's still open to return to the NFL.
No, I didn't see that until they pulled up the.
Arm You noticed. You noticed that he sees the boys. We have our private jet.
Yeah, that would be our private jets on that plane.
He said. Last he told Demiko, don't call unless you absolutely need it. But if you ever do call, I'll be there. And he knows not to call unless he absolutely needs it. This is the last year. I'll tell him that because I'm not going to keep training the way I've been training. But he knows that if if he ever truly does need it, I'll be there for him. I mean, I don't anticipate it happening. They've got a very good group. So you think you think you think he's returned. I mean if the depth.
Based on that quote, I would say, yeah, absolutely. If they had a bunch of injuries and it was week five or something like that, call him in, get him a couple of weeks to warm up and get like back in the basics, and you get after it.
Yeah. Yeah, because he's been more open. I mean you can see he goes on the Pat mcavee show. He's is a tweet game has been getting out there a little bit more. He's tweeting a lot more. And you see he's still ask to grass with a lot of weight on his back. Yeah, so you know he's still training.
He's training. He looks fantastic too. Yeah, he looks great. And I wonder if it's setting in that, like, Okay, football is over. I mean, he's got all the opportunities in the world, but still there's always a piece of you that's like, man, could I still do it?
When you're juggling all those things off the field, and if you get later in the year and the depth of drugg and you could make a return on a good squad.
And the Texans are contenders this.
Year, even the branding and everything you're doing on the field, like.
Yeah, yeah, you get the prodigal son returns to Houston for one last ride. There's a documentary in its own right there, Netflix's own Watt. Yeah, yeah, I think I think he could absolutely do it. I mean you look it in the last couple of years at the Cardinals, like he wasn't J. J. Watt of Houston, but still very slippery, still did a great job of rushing the
passer like he was. He was still he could still have played in the NFL this past year and been and been a guy you circle and be like, listen, he might be older, but he's still a cat that you got to worry about.
He's still disruptive.
Disruptive, plays hard, gives effort. So yeah, I mean first and last out.
Yeah.
I think the leadership too, because Houston. I think I have to look more at the depth chart, but Houston seems like they're squad that is extremely talented but young, really young. They have a lot of young talent there. And if you brought in a leadership guy like like JJ Watt and might be taking him.
Over the edge, Houston might win it all this year.
They that's that's a shitty thing, is they might.
Do what I think that was your early prediction. Yeah, I do. I think Houston's got all. Now. Look, I think the other day I was watching the divisional round Niners versus Packers, watching the Packers just kind of blow it there in the last time you watching film, Yeah, like, dude, God bless her. But if we're not watching Miss Rachel, if I'm like, oh no, you know, we'll watch Miss Rachel later or whatever. She'll literally say football. So I'll go on. I'll be like, oh, you want to watch football?
And I'm just thinking, like there's no football on and the NFL Network Divisional Round Niners Packers, and we're just sitting there watching football and uh. But anyway, the Niners, they have to win this year, like their window of having all these players is obviously closing, I know, and they have such a core unit that it's all or nothing this year. I think it's been all or nothing from the last cop, you know, losing a couple quarterbacks
two years ago. Obviously, this past year was like it doesn't matter unless they win the whole thing and they get to the Super Bowl and then fortunately lost to the fucking Chiefs. But this year, I think, like having that group together, like they have one more shot.
If you're playing in the scenario of the forty nine ers and they're in the Super Bowl, the team that they should play is the Chiefs. Chiefs have won two in a row. Chiefs. I don't think I'll get back stop dude, U K, I guess we'll see.
I think Houston. I think Houston is the team in the AFC.
Houston, Baltimore Baltimore's is nasty. Don't sleep on the Steelers. They have Arthur Smith at OC right now. Tennessee is brewing up a squad right now.
They're brewing, but it's not gonna be this.
If you would have ranked AFC South right now, if you never know, Jack, you never know. If you're looking at the AFC South, this is how would rank AFC South right now? You gotta put Houston at one.
Have to.
Then you put the Titans at two, I don't know. And then you put the Colts at three, and the Jags are in four.
I don't know. I don't I don't know if that's that's right.
Bro.
We were in there with Callahan, you saw the boys.
I would go, I would go Houston, I would go Colts. Then I would go Titans in Jacksonville.
But Jacksonville's four.
Yeah, I think the AFC South is a very tough division.
Now, Yes, absolutely, like CJ. Stroud, Trevor Lawrence Young, Will Levis, Yes, dude, it's just and I'm telling you, bro, here's the exciting thing. If you're if you're a Tennessee Titans fan watching this podcast right now, let me get you pumped up a little bit. The last ten years of your life, you've been seeing ground and pound. Please God, let Derrick Henry break one and we're gonna help. We're gonna out defense these guys. Essentially, this is football of the nineties. We
are now transitioning into high flying air raid. Put points on the board. We're gonna score more points than you. That's what That's what the Titans are going to try to be this year. I'm Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins hope to God, who's the kid that we drafted? And Traylon Burke's hope to God he has a year, pray for it. I'm still I'm still gonna sing Kyle Phillips's praises if he can stay healthy. The kids got talent, You got Chig and the have an offensive line that you're building together.
You just pay a center fifty million dollars. You got yourself a left tackle. NFP is getting to his third year. He's coming off injury, but his third year. You drafted a guy in the first round at left guard. You have the tools on offense to be successful. You take a kid that that dude from Texas, what's his name, Think Devondre Sweat to Andre Sweat, yeh Autland Trophy winner. He literally says himself, if I can lose weight, I'll
be a Hall of Famer. That's terrifying. By the way, if you're a Titans fan, you just need this guy. If you know your only issue to not make it to the Hall of Fame is something that you control. Brother, you got to get your shit together then and then we get done then with Jeff and I think as much as Jeff and I have had our disagreements and my opinions about Jeff, Jeff is going to bully the Sweat kid into being in shape. I've seen him do
with other defensive lineman. He's gonna hold him to a standard, and that kid's gonna have a good first year, I believe.
Yeah, so we.
Got you got Snead too from the Chiefs, who's all pro last year.
Yeah.
Yeah, Titan's got a squad keeping them at two. I'm giving them a two for one.
You're right, you never know, like you don't know how this scene is gonna shake up. I wouldn't be surprised based on the coaching staff that they have and some of the young talent. But I think the Houston Texans bro are absolutely loaded and not to mention they got two of the titans best defensive players last year. Yeah it's Alsha here right, how here?
Indico Autry and Anico Autry, who is maybe the sleepiest guy in the league that people sleep on constantly.
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Why you said that?
Because if I read that thing, brother, there's some big words in there.
I'll tell you this. It may Jack highlighted it.
My heart rate spiked to one because I was like, how do you even pronounce what?
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What do you think? What do you think about my hairline?
I think, pull it back?
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Okay, then I won't they don't do don't do that if it makes you uncomfortable. You got some peaks.
I do got some peaks. However, I feel like I've had some peaks for a long time.
So if you feel good about it, I do. If you feel good about it, then I feel good about Because the way you wear your hair, I would not walk past you and be like that cat's bolding because.
Think about too, like hats are not good for pulling on your pulling on your helmets. We've had said like, I'm mid thirties now, bro.
I know they say I'm gonna literally pop a stat out of my ass. That may or may not be true, but I heard by thirty six, if you haven't started, it'll it won't happen. So I got a couple of years, got a couple of years, really a year and a half. Here's what I think. Here's what I think.
If you nutropole, if you.
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But I need it to be a group. I don't need it to be like I need to know that it's multiple people feeling this way right because I feel like I have a very heightened sense of awareness when it comes to my hairline to know, yeah, yeah, absolutely, to know if like my shit's going bad or not?
Yeah, would you get the plugs?
Ever, I don't think you know. Nothing's off the table. Yeah, dude, I was.
Like ten grand they put you on the first class flight. You come back, it's like ten other guys doing the same thing.
There's more than ten you see those yeah clips dudes just having the coldest sac with bandages on top of their head, all flying back.
Here's the nuns up table. That is.
If that doesn't if that is it becomes an option for you, I say do it.
Yeah, none's off the table, got you. There could be a moment. Maybe I could be a shaved head kind of guy. How's the shape of your head? I don't know how.
I mean, you can't really tell it hair. I had my head shaved for my rookie year because they gave me a rookie haircut where they just kept like this part right here and then shaved all of this and kind of moved it around. It was really fucked up. Wearing a hat looked fine, but then I had to shave it after my after the fourth preseason game. I just don't got a good shaped head.
You did kind of look.
Yeah I look racist.
Yeah you see me, I look like but you ain't got nothing to worry about? Yeah, yeah I do.
It is a worry of mine still.
Though, Oh well, it's it's it's that's just that's a fake. I appreciate that's that. Yeah, that's a fake, imaginary worry. It is.
Yes, but you see cats and you just wonder, hey, if that happens to me. I hope that doesn't happen to me. Literally, every time I sit down with Alan, our barber, I go, brother, you gotta tell me.
Like your head of hair? Yeah, your head of hair is so nice that when you say comments like that, you know everybody around you. Whoever you tell that dude, just know, they might not tell you. But it's like, okay, guy, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. People we just love We just loves people like this. Motherfucker.
I get it, I get it. I'm lucky, I'm extremely my dad. Can you pull up a clip a picture of day of Dave? See if you can pull up Dave law Because everyone says it's always the mother's dad, my mother. My mom's dad is bald as can be. Shut up, bud.
Yeah, your dad is definitely your future.
Yeah, he and I have this. We have the same kind.
Of hair and build. You'll be you'll be wearing those uh sleeveless shirts, compression shorts under the shot under the shorts yea where the bottom of the compression shorts don't grab your leg all the way.
Dave just he's just gotta do more legs, man.
No Dave Lawan on the Google.
No Dave law on Google.
Damn Dave.
Dave watches this show too. It's gonna hurt for him to hear this, but.
He'll I think he'll be sitting there green like you guys have the same build, biceps, my upper body, lower body, hair.
Yeah, we yeah, we do look very similar.
Very yeah.
Yeah, isn't it interesting too? And I can't wait. He's a good looking guy, right, I can't wait to see this with our kids.
Is.
When I was younger, everyone was like, oh, you look like your mom, you do anything like your dad, And as I've gotten older, everyone's like you and your dad are the exact same person. So I'm interested to see with my kids. Hopefully they look like their mom the entire way.
Like we just keep going willows you bro, ye, Hey, bring up Taylor the draft day photo where you're standing there the combine the willow.
All right, don't be disrespectful.
That's not disrespectful, Bro, she looks like your dad, Bro, first looks like your dad. This photo.
The comment section is hilarious. Someone said, dude looks like SpongeBob Flatten the front flat in the back. My comin, bro, it is so fucking funny.
Low key though.
When I saw that photo, I knew there was gonna be chirps, but I thought, yo, you look kind of jack Bro. Yeah that me, bro, meaty boy.
We've lost internet.
We've lost internet. Anyway, I know Mitchell do a great job of popping up that photo though. It is funny dude, how my ass is not there and my dick is also not there? Yeah, yeah, about doing that. I'll put a sock in there big time, though, brother, I know what. I know what you're thinking about right now. JP, don't even go there. What are you think you're thinking about? The penis and the bottle comment? No, no, no, no, no, yes, bro, that's a thick boy.
I was lost to shoulders, arms, lost a.
Tiny legs, still did my absolute best with them boys too.
It looks like that, like that photo of when you're a kid and you go in your mom's room after you threw up. You just staying in the doorway, like Mom.
Your legs don't look that bad here.
Yeah, look at that. Not even a bump, dude.
That's how it is. That's how it is. When you got them strong thighs like that, I think just hide it. Yeah, when you get them thighs touch and everything else, that's a tough.
I miss having strong legs.
That's fucking hilarious.
Bro, That is funny. Get the back in there, bank, I.
Mean, it's a solid that's a.
Oh yeah, dude, better times.
Hey did you see uh OBJ sign with the Dolphins. It's Miami boy.
I know I saw. The one thing I did see on that was Jalen Ramsey saying last time they two were both on the team.
Super Bowl towards towards a c L.
Yeah, that's tough, dude. One year deal worth four million dollars with incentives to push it up to eight point two five million. Man, I really want back them to get g b O T I know, I want him so bad, dude.
I think his uh I love his work ethic, bro. I fel like the dude. Have you listened to him on the pivot, Like the the ups and downs he said, with his knees, with surgeries and stuff like that, and still like being a guy at the peak of where he was and still like loving the game and winning to go play ball even though he's got a base salary of three million up to eight point two you know what I mean. Like he he was like at the I mean he was at the top of the world.
I know he was. He was never one he wassentually Patrick Mahomes like that kind of star power. Yeah, when he was in his prime The thing that I really I just wish he could get back on track four is because every human being I came across that played with him at LSU or knew like put with him in Giants or wherever, was like, this dude could be professional at any sport, soccer, baseball, big time athletes, big
time athlete, like just has the genetics like that. Yeah, and he's like just a he's just a stunt man.
And I feel like he's just a guy that you start to like root for that he hasn't been that, but you know, when when you're at the very tip top and then you have antics on the sidelines and everything else, it's very easy to you know, to comment on the dramatic ship that he mad. Right, But in the last few years the way he's just kind of came on teams, kept his head down, like he's never really been a distraction like the people like we would have thought he probably could have been. I don't know,
I kind of fuck with him. Yeah, I don't really know much about him other than like again, he's signing again. It just seems like the boy loves the play ball.
You painted a really good picture too, because at one point OBJ kind of became the villain, Like he lived long enough to see him become the villain. And now with the trials and tribulations and him just fighting a good fight over and over again because he loves the game so much, trying to get back on track, it really makes you root for the guy.
Yeah, well, I just thought of that first class situation. How I think that was last year, No, that.
Was two years ago.
I think he was.
He was, he was like sleep right.
It was, but you know, just a judge nuts.
Yeah, let that go, Yeah, throw that to the win, let the breeze take it.
That's over. Yeah. But him, Tyreek Hill, Jayleen Waddle, you.
Know, I just wonder how many balls he's gonna get.
I don't think he I don't think it's like he puts that much expectation on it. I think he does, but I'm saying I think he's very aware of the situation he's going into. You know, he knows the strength of Tyreek Hill, Jalen like, you got Coach McDaniels, like, I'm sure they're gonna find creative ways to get everybody the ball, spread the ball around.
Yeah, Tyreech, just the dude. You got to feed over and over again. The thing I wish Tyreek did was hit that two thousand because he was on pace at one point last year. Right, yeah, yeah, I want him to get that so bad. Dude was crushing it. Hit segments.
Shout out, no free shout out.
You want to get that off your chest. Huh, you've been.
Trying to talk. You want to talk shows, Go ahead, start off. I want to talk shows with the boys. Start up my shoutout, no free shot out of the week. First of all, it is brought to you by sport Clips. Your hair may grow fast, but after going to sport clips haircut, you wish it grooven faster. That's because sport
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My shout out, no free shout out this week is going to go to the Boys.
Oh and not just the boys, but the Boys.
The TV show I watched binged all all of fall There's one season I watched all Fallout, banger show awesome show fall Out. Highly recommend the Boys. I am now in season two and I'm into it.
Bro is this the wild They have superpowers?
Superhero Yeah, anti hero guys are fucking fish. You know, there's a lot going on.
It's basically like just assume it's like the X Men, but the roles, the roles are reversed. They're very well accepted in the world. They are the high power, they're like the superior. They're like the billionaires, and they get away with a lot of devious shit, some stuff that's like you know, Charo. She's like, should I catch up?
I'm like, I don't know if you mess with the storyline and the plot, but I don't know if you mess with all like the violent and the negative ship that comes with it, because it's pretty Yeah.
That show. I mean, it's so interesting. You think about it all the time, like being a superhero, Like if you found out at one point in your life, you were a superhero, how many of us would actually go and fight crime as opposed to just being extremely good at whatever we wanted.
To be good at.
Yeah, imagine if you had Superman's powers and we were still in the mindset of wanting to play football, you just be the best football player of all time.
Yeah, Taylor might be Homelander.
That's a what is what's Homelander? It sounds like it's not a character in the show. I'll make character. Don't even know anything else.
Super he's he's basically the Superman of the group.
Cool and he doesn't he's probably got check check it out, check it out, check it out. I heard the boys the first season. Uh, there was like some random ship going on. People like I don't know if you want to watch this is it?
It's and it's like, yeah, sexual in ways you really don't.
Want it to be.
And like, he's what you're saying, Jack, Kids become.
Orphans, people are fish.
Yeah, kids become orphans a little too frequent in my you know, in my opinion, a.
Little too much for the children.
Yeah, yeah, a little too much. Like as as an apparently watching like god, damn, why do they gotta write this type of ship in there. But it is a good show nonetheless, So that as my shotowt no free shadow.
My shoutout, no free shoutout is going to be, It's gonna go to Willie Walker on the Chocolate Factory.
Why, dude, my kids.
So if anybody who has kids out there goes to their kids' school plays, it's fun for fifteen minutes and then after that you're like, all right, like this, we're not this is not top notch acting. I'm not watching a Broadway musical by any means. But this year, my kids, the whole school, their school they go to, they did a play Willie Walk and the Chocolate to who my
both my kids were in olympus. It was sick too when had a whole dance routine everything we used to practice on and uh, I just loved that book growing up. It was my favorite book growing up. I loved the movie. I loved the movie Wonka, and I just it brought me that I had the whole hour where I was like just feeling levels of nostalgia, being like, dude, this
movie was so good. Coming out Walka is so great, and legit, these kids were good at the play, not good like we're talking you know what I'm saying relative to the age group we're talking about. They did a good job. Yeah, yes, they did a good job. The one kid who was playing walka kid had a good voice. Kid had a good voice. Uh, Charlie, that kid had a good voice too. All of them, I think did
a good job of their characters. And I just kind of sat there and smiled to myself, like my childhood was loving this show, and now my kids are playing this show, sitting here as an adult as their kid, and I thought that was cool. Yeah, I'm mess with love that.
That's wholesome.
Yeah, it's wholesome. But shout out the boys too, gore, rape and shit like that. That's tight.
Yeah.
Fuck, I need to watch that show. But I feel like Taylor would not watch that show.
Yeah, she's huge. She wouldn't like some parts.
Taylor trying to check me on Spootober this year and I was like, dude, don't she wants to do like more like kid friendly, Like we don't need to watch all this like delaying you know, he's like the super goy shit, we don't need She's.
Like, hey, we got a six and three year old, like let's.
Yeah, we don't even have that in the house. Like, it's bat Like every Spootober seems like something goes wrong on the little one household. Both of my surgeries were in Spootober Like. It's just it's a tough time. But I'm trudging through that mud every single year. I'm going to fight it. Yeah, but she wants to do like less less like horror films. She shoes you can watch the slashes and all that, but all this paranormal shit,
you gotta stop watching. I told her no, Yeah, I said, which I said, No, We're not gonna do that.
Boys, any shout outs in the back.
I'll go Joe West, I will yeah it. Mine's with Key West. But it's going to the reason I was there. I'm shouting out. Thomas Edwards, my very talented musician friend. He released a new song called Old Crowd that is out now on all platforms. And this isn't just some shameless plug. It's a really good fucking song. This song embodies what this bus is. It's about your old friends just hanging out with the crew. It's just the boys, you know, the boys, the girls, whatever. But I'm really
proud of him. He's been working really hard. He was the talk of the town with this songwriters fest we're at. So shout out to Thomas Edwards. Shout out to everyone who made Key Wes fun. It's just it's fun to kind of get out of town for a little bit, get some vitamin D, listening to music and uh yeah, just you know love my friends always do. So shout out Tom old crowd stream it now.
Oh, stick along the same line, sort of shout out living with your boys. I just moved into a new house and there's three of us that will be currently that will stay there, but one guy who's still like in limbo and as he's moving out. But you you're just never bored. You can always just go annoy somebody. You can always just go hang out with somebody. And this is the most since college, the most amount of people I've lived with, and I'm looking forward to and
it's gonna be gonna be a good time. So shout out living with your boys.
Living with boys, getting no you get bored, you go set at the edge of their bed like, hey, what are you doing to kick your feet up?
How's your day?
Mine's kind of similar to the boys theme. We have going on, but it is uh the one friend in the friend group four two that are the real guys. Whenever you're on like a big group trip, they're always ready to cook up some nice food. Our guys are Carter and Danny. They cooked up some Broadway, some hot dogs, easy, easy things to cook up, but their range is unlimited when it comes to food. So shout out to the guys that take on the task of cooking dinner for everyone.
Hell yeah, solid, solid one.
What else do we have before we get into uh twisted question? We get some dad Yeah, we got some dad moments. Do you want to do a twist the question? We want to talk?
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Daniel du Lac du Lac on Instagram. This is This One's a bit of a mouthful, but I think it's a.
Good I'm sure you'll handle it just fine, like you always do.
You have twenty four hours to complete the following four activities, run a mile, eat a donut, drink a beer, and jerk off. The catch is you have to do each of these activities and increments of six, twelve, eighteen, and twenty four. So example, run six miles, eat twelve donuts, drink eighteen beers, and jerk off twenty four times in twenty four hours. What are you doing for each number.
I'm gonna have to put the I'm gonna have to put the miles at six. I'mna start there. I'm gonna eat twenty four donuts. I'm gonna drink was it six? Twelve eighteen? I'll drink eight teen beers. I'm a jerk off twelve times.
Fuck man, that's tough. I think you gotta go twenty four donuts have to and it's what beers jerk off in miles.
You have to run the miles.
I think I'll go run run you can't walk it, okay, I think I'll go eighteen beers twelve miles and jerk off six times.
You ain running twelve miles, bro.
Bro over twenty four hours, a mile a mile, a mile every two hours.
Yeah, I don't know, man, I'll be honest with you. I don't know if you're doing that.
But I'm saying that this run.
It's hard to jerk off twelve times in a day than it is to run twelve miles.
Yeah, yeah, bro, jerk off twelve times one day.
I didn't think if you're gonna go run after.
That, I think, John, I think I'm using a good number with the six, like I think that one. I was thinking about going miles. I was thinking about going more miles. But if it's in a twenty four hour period, may.
Be so tired after that, refeel with the beer and donuts.
You're right on my goat. No, I don't know. I think twelve my max.
My max would even would be at twelve for miles. I wouldn't be able to go farther than that.
I think I would just switch the beers in miles. I would do eighteen miles and twelve beers.
I know, That's what I was thinking about too. But eighteen miles again, twenty four hours a long time.
Like I mean, if you're like really running running, you can run run like seven minutes, but then you're just cooked cooked, but you slow that down and maybe do like a ten minute mile. That's that's what I'm saying. Like these miles, it's not like they have to be run for an hour. Run for an hour and you got what six miles done? Yeah, and then break and then run for an hour again, you got another six miles.
Just zone to it up for twelve miles, not for twelve miles straight I'm breaking them up. But yeah, I think straight. JP probably could. I mean, Jp, I'm not in any cardio shape.
But like my roommate, he just ran a half marathon and he trained a little bit and he kept a higher pace than I would do for it, but he finished in like right at two hours, and that was thirteen point one or whatever. That's two hours.
Yeah, Like sitting.
She ran a marathon one r age group and it was like three forty three forty five or something, right, so you got the whole rest of the day for all these other things, right, right, right, right right. Taylor was locked on that twelve one. Though, that's only when you didn't have to think.
Of Yeah, I think you hit an hour hour on the hour, like seven, Yeah, you saw.
I'm not.
Yeah, I'm thinking about my stamina of my wrist in my form, and I'm also thinking about how bad my piece is gonna hurt too, right, bro, times dehydrated? Get fluids?
Like, have you ever came twelve times in a day?
No, I think my max I was a nasty little thirteen year old. I maybe six, but I think I think I'm floating those numbers pretty high.
Yeah, at the end, six is just like dust coming out.
Yeah, Like, I know for sure four maybe five, And that's back in your It's back in your honiest days of all time time. I said, I know for sure four. Maybe there was a fifth time in there at some point, but I don't know.
My numbers are inflated. I think I'm four or five as well.
And again that's that's back in your horniest times.
Bro. All right, I'll go listen. I'll go six.
You had your number.
I'll go twelve miles, you get a drink.
Of you got a jernk off twelve times.
That was the fantasy football punishment for one of my buddies, name's Connor. But they took the jerk off out. But it was just twelve eighteen twenty four for donuts, beers and miles. And they had a day party on a Saturday and he brought a tread meal and he played baseball at the Navy and he was like fuck it, and he literally did a full marathon on the tread meal at this party, twenty four donuts and then twenty four beers. He didn't have to do it, but you know, war.
Daddy, war daddy, when a challenge comes your way, have to do it.
An to the bell and then some I bet he struck. I bet he had a lot of respect from the boys.
Oh yeah, and twenty four.
We should do something like that. One day you're.
Gonna plant and then it's gonna come down to it.
I don't want to do it me.
I'm more so looking at will.
But what if I planned and not want to do no.
I just I feel like we have these ideas like let's go.
Usually I'm more of a started no, let's get to yes, let me in any.
Of our will as it started no, get to yes, I'm a yes, immediately go to no.
Yeah.
So, like one of you is gonna end up not doing it. I think we should do it.
If you were like, we're doing this tomorrow, I'd be like, all right, But if you're like, we're doing this in three months, I would be more likely to say no as opposed to it being flipped for me and will.
Yeah.
Are you thinking of the combine?
Yeah?
Trying to think, like what is Mitch thinking of? But it's one thousand percent the combine?
Yes, did you do the bench press?
I know?
But have you done that?
Yeah?
I did it at home?
What was it?
I got thirty one?
I expected more.
I expected more too.
It's crazy how it just creeps that no way creeps up on you.
Out of nowhere.
I didn't have a spot her, though, so I don't know if I could have gotten I want you more, but I was just down there by myself and I didn't want to just kill.
That is an underrated thing, is when you have somebody to lift the weight for you, to get you in position.
That's they're also just like motivating you a little bit.
Come on, let's go.
I just put on some hardcore DM and just oh ship dead Moss.
Well, I apologize. We do got to get this stuff set up at boost so we can you can run your combine. I know you want to see so bad because you're right. You're right.
Jack and I have gone back and forth like who's the most most athletic on the bus, And we've all been on two dimes and everybody's list is different.
Also going on two dimes.
Yeah, we'll go two dimes about that list. I feel like, list you Jack.
Guys, figure out who's the most athletic. Maybe out of the back of the bus. Bro Ain't none of y'all more athletic than me?
You don't think so? No, they're younger, dude, younger more. You have a back thing. You got a back thing.
That's that's the thing.
Will is running about nine hundred to solid strone right now, though he's.
Out there peaked like thousand.
Yeah. Oh, I don't know. I haven't haven't. I haven't, I haven't, I haven't I haven't tested in uh since that last time where I was. I'll float in some good numbers. I'll float some good numbers.
I just got my blood done Wednesday last week. I'm excited to see those numpies.
It truly all depends what we're trying to clarify as is like what an athlete is, because it's like we we It's like we could run through the same combine that I have film on out there, cause your bench already didn't get it. But to me, bench is not like.
There's like a we did something in college, like a pound for pound. So you're fifteen to twenty more pounds than I am, so you're gonna have more Like you're gonna be able to bench more.
But I might be able to run faster like you might.
Or we can find that out.
We can.
I mean, there's a road right outside, don't have. That's Winnings, the black guy. He beat the Landing in that race.
I was also filming them running side by side.
That is. Jack was saying that too. He's like I was running backwards. We'll get it going, We'll get it going. We'll get it going. We'll get it going.
Who would you who would you rank the boys?
In the in the back most athletic. Again, we we truly. I do think there are different definitions and different kind of like.
Alright, classic definition of are we talking direction, jump speed?
M So we're testing?
Yeah, because I agree.
With you, I would guess I would guess Jack if we're doing if we're talking change direction, I was.
Gonna say, Mitch, but if we do that athletic in terms of like how many sports you were able to hold like you're own weight in, that is where I feel like I would have a better chance. But there's only one way to find out.
I can't.
But anything else.
Play defense, play defense, get boards.
Yeah, that's yeah.
I mean that's a that's a role I.
Could jump, I can get the rebounds.
And you won't get your team beat.
Yeah, I'm not gonna be scoring a lot of points.
JP. Are you quick like change the direction? Do you feel confident in your ability against them? I feel confident.
I would also probably say, Mitch as far as testing goes, And then, like Jack is saying, I feel more confident that I'm good at a lot of sports, can play a lot of sports. I don't have golf though.
Golf tough, but a little worse yeah, swimming. He was on the dive team, which.
I didn't have access to that.
So who he was rank.
We're forgetting about.
I feel like Coop. I feel like Coop finds himself middle upper pack.
Yeah, I don't know.
He might be shifty.
Yeah I do. I don't know. I have to figure it out. If I had to, if I had to play sods on it, I would say I would go for going sports category. Jack, Are you any good at baseball? Mitch?
He played the high school, is going to play college?
Yeah? Okay, Jack, Mitch, JP, Garrett, Coop, I think you're off.
I think you're not giving enough credit to Garrett. Everything we've seen Garrett do, he's relatively good at it. Like the way JP is saying, like he can you can play most sports. I've every sport we've done with Garrett. His hand eye coordination is great.
Yeah.
Uh, he can throw a base ball. He can play golf really well. I think I think you're sleeping on g a little bit. I don't think he I think he's top three.
I think g is very skilled.
I don't think I.
Don't think he tests well. I think, but we're talking about sports.
But I want I want cats who have range in every sport that we're playing, Like if we're playing baseball, I need you to play the outfield and cover ground like like, yeah, I'm sure G could be a good picture. I think G is very skilled as far as like some of those that just the athletic stuff of running and moving and changing direction. That's why I value that type of stuff more than being in place.
Yeah, there there's a scale that comes out just every sport.
You know, a small business that tests all these things.
Please please, there's like a have you heard of raz relative athletic Yeah that Yeah, they come out after the combinat. There's that they have like high weight measurement stuff that you can look up.
They try to like that measure you're like your number really yeah? Your relative athleticism.
Yeah, relative athleticism kind of what we're talking about relative athleticism. If you want a benchmark, I'm the only player in the last twenty years to score a perfect ten. But if you guys have something to go off of, you guys want you're a great athlete.
I was not anymore.
I just don't think my shoulder. You saw me throwing that pitch. My knee, I can't really run like that, can't change direction like that anymore. I've got a lot weaker. I just don't think I'm holding to these young spry cats anymore. These young bulls. Yeah, they are some young bulls, man, But I think you're up there with them because you wouldn't give me the nod over them. I think you would.
Here's where I think. I think if it really came down to an actual combine, you're beating all of them handedly. But I think for the next two weeks they're coming to work and they feel fine and you're dead.
Yeah, but we're talking abot just we're talking about one. We're showing up.
Yah.
Then I think I give you the edge because I don't know if you remember back at the Vanderbilt when you were pretty good at that change of direction thing that you wanted to tell me about, pretty solid at the change direction.
That.
Yeah, I would put you. I would put you at the top.
Before we wrap up, the streets are saying that tear talk might need to make a comeback, just to put that, just float that out there.
Some tear talk. We could have been our barstool. Yeah, yeah, I did to your talk today. You got any dad, any dad moments flip the girl that I don't.
I would say my dad moment of the week. Just anything, dude, Uh yeah, I got a dad moment. There was a very cool clip on our nanet that Tailor showed when she was putting wind down and when For those of you who have ever met, wyn is the most kind hearted, like truly like she's such a special soul. She cares about other people. She's worried about their people's feelings, like the kid just came out of the womb outstanding. She's
a lot like her mom. And Taylor has put her to sleep and Wynn just starts going saying how great of a mom she is. She's the best mom that she could possibly have. And they start talking about parents and stuff like that, and then Wynn said to Taylor, She's like, I love how you make people feel good. And Taylor's like, how do you know that I make people feel good? She's like, well, I've seen you do it, and she starts going over examples of times that Taylor
made people feel good. And to me, watching a six year old have that kind of dialogue with her mother just she was like years above, Like she was acting like she was fifty sixty years old with this wealth of knowledge. And I think that to me was a very cool moment to watch a mother. Good awareness to see out of a six year old. Yeah, crazy awareness
to see that of a six year old. Now she drives me crazy sometimes because with all that beautiful emotion comes the other side where everything's the biggest deal in the world. And that's difficult for me because we're not just gonna get out of here without complaining a little bit about our kids. We got a bitch a little bit. But I think that was a very special moment.
I love that.
Yeah.
I almost felt a little twinkle on my nose.
When I was walking through it. It's kind of.
Tough, Yeah, I uh a little shout out to Rue. There's this We have this book called Old Hat New Hat, and her memory is I think special. I don't know. I could just be a biased father thinking that she's got some crazy memory, but she can recite the entire book after a few times of reading through it. Like, I just think she's got a little something to her now.
When we were at State Gold the other day and she made a little friend, and Rue does this thing where she has to hug and kiss everything, like hug kiss, even the boys last week, She's like hug and then you hear it kind of say kiss, and there's kind of this awkward moment of like, I wonder what the boys are going to do here? Steven kissed her and uh JP just leaned up with the cheeks. She kind
of just sits there. But she made this friend that stayed golden and the family was leaving and we're like, Rue, you gotta say by She's like, hug, hug, and she like comes over. The little girl so I think she was four. She like gives Ru a hug and they Ru like hugs in and then you just hear Rue like on her breath go kiss. And I'm standing there and this girl grabs her face and leans in. They both you know how you know how kids just kind of sit there. They don't like no how yeah, they
don't puck her nothing. And she like grabs her face and was going in and it was slow enough to start laughing. I was like, all right, hey, hey, and I'm just thinking like, hey, we gotta work on. We're like driving home, like, uh Rue, you know, you just you want to kiss like people that are family, that are you can't just kiss everybody. You can't just kiss everything because she has to do everything. Like we're putting her down at night, she tries to negotiate, like I
gotta hug and kiss the stairs good night. I gotta hug and kiss miss Rachel. That's that's no longer on the screen. But you got to bring her up on pause so she can like hug give kisses. So she has to hug and kiss everything. So we got to kind of yeah, because he's starting to get a little starting to get a little loose with like everybody she's kissing and it was hilarious.
You don't want kissing bandit for a child.
Yeah, she like hugs and he just here kiss.
Can we talk about one thing? Yeah, Steven kissed your kid on the lips.
Kid, No kiss on the cheek. He kiss from the cheek because ru goes after after like I'm holding her and she's like hug and she like leans in and she goes kiss and then she sideways. So I'm kind of I'm kind of sitting there like house is going to go down because I know it's I know it's awkward for the she did with JP and GP. GP just kind of leaned and she just like put her face on JP's cheek because I'm thinking, like, I wonder if JP's going to kiss her, because I know that's
like awkward, but uh oh. And also just throw a little shout out to myself. Zero text to the wife about how to do how to handle things with ru in the last nine days. I feel like that is a stat that's going to go, you know, not recognize or talked about. I'm just gonna throw myself some flowers there.
Zero tech. That was one thing Charles said. She was like, you did you You had zero text to me because she talked about her and the wires were kind of like talking out like oh, it's kind of nice that the husbands aren't like texting us about like what to do. And I'm like, you gotta yeah, you got a good little deal back home.
That scoreboard is filthy for your filthy bro.
She came in kind of like uh, what did she do? She's like, uh, she asked about like the mail, like, oh, I didn't like see something mail. By the way, I saw our all of our cards, all of our the credit cards for for busting, and I'm thinking, like, okay, you noticed that. I might not check the mail, but you notice that the that the uh little seat corner area over there, no more boxes, all the boxes going
on in the garage. I just start listing everything, and she's like, yeah, you did awesome, Like dode you want like a She's like, do you want like a celebration for your holding down the house? Yeah?
Yeah.
I was like, I mean, I guess when you put it that way, I am doing my job. But either way, your boy's intentional. Your boy's starting to come around. I'm thinking to myself like you. Unfortunately, like I catch myself through the week. I was like, oh, I'm gonna like leave food out, I'm going to do other things. But I caught myself like cleaning up and doing all that. I'm thinking of myself like god, damn it. Like I have been a little trained and domesticated, but I'm thinking like, Okay, yeah,
I guess I am just doing my job. But fuck, like your boys, your boys starting, your boys getting better, Yeah, your boys being solid.
Appreciate the progress yeah yeah, yeah, like massive progress, massive, But yeah, the way you pay that is a standard, that is the standard.
Is the way you.
Paint the picture of Charles. I just see her coming home from France and putting our back down. Then immediately just got like saying hierru real quick and then looking all over.
The house, just scouting down.
I noticed you didn get the mail checked that before I came in the house.
Yeah, She's like, did you happen to see this? I was like, oh no, I guess I didn't check the mail once throughout the week. But that is in some solid, some solid dad memories, some very good core memories.
And here's the thing about busting with the boys, folks, if you are still somehow with us, you when you I see you dealing with rue and getting the scoreboard up this weekend, in my head, I had you in room my head being like, I gotta get my scoreboard up a little bit.
Okay.
So kids came in the room, I got up with them in the morning, made breakfast, I did all the things, let tail and sleep in, and I know, on this Monday, I'm feeling good about my scoreboard. I love that feeling good about it.
We need more dads. We need more dads showing.
Up because you're I mean, listen, moms do a lot too, but I feel like dads are underappreciated. In the in the parent category.
This is where it gets a little slippery. Moms do a little bit too. Moms do. Moms do the most. I get it.
Moms are number one. However, I think dads are underrated and how much they do can be that you can't be. Can'm not saying every dad's a good dad, but I see, I see.
Dads have feelings, dads have things going on and struggles in their own lives with paranoid as well. I see this.
I see the dads I surround myself with, and I appreciate the dads I have around me. Yeah, I know a lot for every dad out there.
Surround yourself a good dad, no question, no question.
Yeah, our girl Dad Merch drops on Wednesday, which is tomorrow for those of you listening for Father's Day that is right around the corner. That's our day. Your goal is to get your scoreboard up as much as possible by Father's Day, so you get fuck off for the entire day, do whatever you want to do, because you're setting the tone before and you're taking that entire day
to yourself to do whatever you want. One thing. Your wife can get this for you, but go and get yourself a girl Dad Merchant store up Barstool sports dot com. Should we get to this episode with Tyler Hubbard. Let's jump right in, folks.
Let's have a great day.
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No, that's it.
That's it is that mango here I think going about I I got this whole camera. What a way to start. No, those are the mango ones. I want the I want the espresso ones. You ever do, Lucy? Do you do nicotine at all? You try these?
Uh zennies?
No, they're Lucy's.
I can't you got?
Yeah, so you like that first taste, Yeah, like a lot of You got these little breakers in them too. Do you just pop them and it makes a flavor that much better?
You kid, may bite bite down on it. You should feel like a little ball in there, burst like a little wars, a little orgasm in your mouth.
Little camel crush twenty twenty four, Those.
Camel crushes and then camel snooze as well. You ever do those?
No?
They were like little tiny like oval pin like they have a popper in it. No, there's no popper in it. But it had the same kind of thing a camel crush. At camel crushes eighteen to twenty three years old, you got a little festival or something like that. Yeah, it took all that the pain out of the lungs. You ever smoke any of those. Oh, bro, no, those things are where it's.
At Lucy's the first I mean, the pouches was like the first time I did the experienced nicking teens.
You never smoked a cigarette and nothing. What's your drug life like?
Yo?
Yeah, my drug life just playing marijuana these days. Yeah, it's pretty marijuana when you diet. Yeah, that's it barely. I don't even I hadn't drank in three months for real. Yeah, what was there?
Was there a reason for that where you kind of just like I just kind of want to get away.
Hard a while, and then I was like, I just feel like I need to take a break. Yeah, And so I took a break and now I'm just like, oh, I feel pretty awesome.
So I'm because of the road.
Actually, that was just because I was on vacation and I was just going haym and then I'm like, oh, I need to just I need a break. And that was in like the beginning of December.
So yeah, so you've just been kicking it off since middle of December, even through the holiday season.
Everything, Birthday, all of it, Cabo trip.
You know, just getting out anytime you're in Cobo too, Like you gets towards mango deck or you get some like squid row in those areas, you're like, I can't not drink and not drink it's not a place for me, not that, but to be sober is a ridiculous concept. And copa look good though.
Man. I'm like, I don't know if I'm gonna I'm not. I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna drink anymore. But it's just nice to like feel pretty awesome.
It's interesting, Like what's super wild to me is like playing sports, drinking before your act, your activity, whatever your thing is, is like a total fou paba. Like in your world, it seems like a couple of drinks before you even go on. Oh, it's like the normal things to do.
Oh yeah, that's been my norm for twelve years.
Really, you have a couple like take out the jitters a little bit. Yeah, you still get nervous twelve years later.
Nervous maybe not, but the excited butterfly feeling a bit still, you know what I mean, When you're a little bit just like I don't know if anxious is the word, just excited a little bit. So you got to get out there and kind of like calming down.
What's your Like you ever watched a show onto rush breath? Yeah, it's like Johnny Drama, he would do the auga when you did anything.
Do you have?
Like anything you do, it's like reset yourself, like all right, hub breas because.
What happens is like you'r drelling gets going and it gets harder to uh your bread. You know, your heart rate goes up, your breath, your lung capacity seems to go down, which is you need every bit of lung capacity to sing while you're like running around the stage. So it's really about taking some deep breaths and trying to just like make sure you're at least calmon enough to be able. U. My songs literally have no room
for breathing. So it's just about it's basically a lung workout the whole show.
So that's sort of you got a really strategy how you're gonna go about on a bit.
Yeah, Like if I start to feel like, man, I'm really struggling, I'm sucking air right now, I'll just like, uh, get my guitar or stand in front of the mic and sing a song or two to kind of.
Like calm it down.
Yeah, Yeah, get back to neutral.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, you still get just as excited going out on stage because you've been doing it, what for like over two decades?
Yeah, about twelve years total, like as a professional.
Uh, two decades. He'd been like twelve out there, you've been like Philip.
Has been seventeen. I'm getting I'm getting on up there, I guess now.
But you've been You've been in the spotlight for a little while those years.
Yeah, for sure, and it's still fun. Yeah. I still get like the same I still get the same rush, dude. Yeah, it's cool.
What's the process Like when you're sitting there and like you're back starting out and you're kind of playing clubs, people aren't really listening, and you're like, man, is this really gonna be it? To now you're doing theaters, now you're doing bridge Stone and all these like touring all over the world type stuff, Like how is that transition? Dealing with that type of fame?
Oh oh man, good question, bro. It's what we I would say. It can be difficult, for sure. It's important to have For me, it's important to have some support around me.
You know.
I also met my wife fairly early on, which was very grounding for me, and she kept me very grounded. And I have some really good friends that I could kind of remain constant and was kind of grounding. But it's definitely a journey. It's a ride, and if you're not careful, all the typical things you think that can
kind of take control. Will you know what I'm saying, Whether it's ego, whether it's insecurity, whether it's a substance, whether it's just you know, for me, like my biggest struggle is like overworking or like being a workaholic, I'd say, you know, like having balance life, work, balance and all that. It's a constant setting the intention and trying to stick with it and then checking yourself and making sure and this week is this week balance is my next week balance.
So it's like, you know, I wear several different hats between artists, songwriter, husband, dad and friend at times, you know. So I'm like, all right, am I it is my is my week balance?
In that in that way, So is Hailey like a big piece of that making sure you're balanced?
Uh yeah, she is, yep, because we're both trying to maintain that a bit. You know, like when you got three kids, sometimes it can just be all about the kids and you, and you realize all my marriage is a little bit a little bit off right now. Or we haven't invested in our marriage in the last few weeks. We need to spend some time doing that. Or I hadn't written a song into a couple of weeks, so
I need to go write some this week. But yes, like I said, I just feel like I'm constantly looking at my calendar and saying, all right, is it is it fairly balanced?
Am I pouring into each bucket correctly? It's say, okay, I'm notarily pouring into the marriage. Oh man, maybe I haven't been a home run the kids. Oh maybe I'm not being in the studios much. Yeah, it's like you got to juggle a lot of those different things.
You have to be intentional for sure. Yeah, and I'm sure I was.
Gonna say, what was your insecurity when you were coming up to say, before you met your wife? Like you're exploding on the scene because you're right. It's almost like you can go down any road you want to. When you're becoming like a superstar like you. You can drink, you can do all the different things you can. There's women, there's there's a status, it's okay, am I gonna be at this award show? Like? Am I the man?
Like you want to surround myself with yes people or people that I know are going to take care of right, I mean, there's all that, There's all those decisions along the way that you kind of have to make, even if it's subconsciously. I would say one of my biggest fears though, was like being because you hear all the stories,
you know what I'm saying. You hear the downfall of all the artists you come you know, you come up here and about you know, your icons and becoming you know, becoming alcoholics or dealing with depression or not knowing how to manage or not, or losing your friends and your community, and feeling like you're alone even though you from an outside perspective it looks like you got everything you ever want. But I think that was like my biggest fear.
So I was.
Pretty intention on the way up of being like, all right, I want to have a successful music career, but I also want to have a regular life, and I want to make sure that I at the end of this, at the end of this ride, wherever this ride ends, that I'm not just sitting there not knowing what to do, like where to go from there, Like I want to have a family one day. I want to have a
healthy relationship with my wife. I want to have I want to always be able to have a glass of wine at dinner if I want to, without having to worry about falling off right. So it's just so so kind of just staying in check along the way was big. But I think that was a fear of mine, which
is also why I was. You know, when I felt myself slipping or I felt myself headed down a road that I wasn't excited, you know that I knew was a dead end, I would turn it around or get back on track, or at least attempt to.
So, yeah, you bring up like when you bring up like yes men, and you say do I write, well, who do I want to surround myself with? Like I feel like anybody who's getting into whether it's music or sports or any sort of entertainment that is spotlight. The most difficult thing to navigate is yes men, because no one likes being told you're wrong. But when people say, hey, you're on the right track, you're doing this, You're doing
great at that. It's so easy to fall into like, oh, maybe I am doing better than I thought I was doing, or like taking more of the suggestion of the yes man than the people that are trying to keep you and check that have your best interests involved. Like, how did you when you say you were like really conscious about keeping those people out of your life? How do you sniff that out?
Man?
Don't?
I don't know. I think it's a kind of a gut thing. But what happens to me is like when I'm around those types of people, I realize that their opinion is doesn't really matter much because they're only telling me what I want to hear. They're not telling me all. They're not always telling me truth. So like when I could when I could tell that I had a friend or my wife or a manager or somebody in the band that would shoot me straight, it only validated what
they would say when it was positive. Right, when they're like that's an awesome song. You're not just telling me that's an awesome song because you want me to feel good. You're telling me that because you're being honest and being truthful, and it means a ton more. So I was just really drawn to the people that would be like, hey, bro, I don't really love that song as much, you know what I mean, But oh, all right, I can take
that because I know you're shooting me straight. And the more success I had, the more valuable those relationships became.
For sure.
How close are you able to talk about one of those situations where you did get close because you talked about going down different paths and realizing some could be dead ends. Is there a time like in your career where you're like, man, I really almost went off the fucking wagon here.
I mean, I think I got fortunate and uh, without bringing too much spirituality into it, I definitely feel like I was looking out for me because there were times where, especially at the beginning, Bro, like we're in a van just roughing it and literally just like drinking straight Jack Daniels every night, popping a night roll so we could drive to the next show, like in just kind of
getting into that lifestyle. We were just like, man, we're out here grinding, but we're you know, we're also partying. You know, you're meeting girls that you don't know, you're uh, you know. That was kind of short lived for me, but ultimately I saw pretty quickly like yo, this could this could end in no telling what kind of consequences right, like life changing scenarios here. So again that fear was set in of like man, I don't want that, like
like I've been here, I've done that a bit. So like Fortunately, like I said, I met Haley early on like twenty thirteens when we met, so I was already like in my mind, I was ready to meet the I was ready to meet that girl. I was ready to meet Hailey because I was kind of over you know, the scene and meeting random girls and trying to do that.
But I think if I think, if I was going to put a finger on a year, it's probably twenty twelve, twenty eleven, even twenty ten when we were before we had a deal where we were just like grinding, bro and we were you know, just in a club every you know, four nights a week, getting drunk every night, just to just to basically I feel like you're surviving a little bit you know in the dream, chasing a dream and roughing it and you know, just you know, you can imagine.
Bro, a young thunder kids feeling like we were supposed to be doing on the rocking like you got nothing to lose at the time, so you're just you're just going for it.
Yeah.
And when you're in your early twenties, dude to hang over nothing, Yeah, you're non existent. You wake up and you're like, I feel kind of bad about myself. I'm gonna move forward. Yeah, I'm gonna do that.
I gotta keep up.
Yeah, you won't be the guys, not hey boys, not me tonight. Yeah, I'm gonna go sleep in the van.
It's like, oh, come on, you're all right.
One drink, one drink, eight beers later, you're like, all right, I'm ready to play a show.
Yeah, when you're hitting the van, what was like the moment for you that you're like, oh shit, we're gonna make it.
Ah.
I would say. In two thousand and twelve, we were on a tour called the Country Throwdown Tour. We were the only band that was in a van driving ourselves around the country and it was a bunch of acts on the tour and we were the barbecue band. So to be on this tour we had to agree to play in the afternoon. This was a summer tour as well, so it was like one hundred degrees every day. We
were playing at two o'clock. Then we'd load our gear up into a semi that was on the tour because we had a trailer that they made us leave it home because they they gave us a Kingsford barbecue grill and smoker that we pulled behind the van, and we would play our show, load our gear up again, probably struggling from the last the night before, so we're like, you know, hungover, and then they give us a pocket full of cash and say, all right, you got to
go grocery shopping and get enough food for the whole tour with this money. And you guys are cooking the hamburgers and hot dogs tonight. And we were the party, like the life of the party. So whenever anybody in the whole tour act crew band, it didn't matter when they got done playing, they would come to where we were at where we were set up, and we were cooking for the whole tour. The whole rest of the night had the music blast and kind like setting the pace for the party. And uh, it was a lot
of fun. But we were the first ones up and then we were the last one. Then we'd midnight would roll around at one o'clock. We'd pour a bunch of water on the grill, try to get it to go out. We'd load up in the van, like I said, somebody popping out of all and we would just take off down the road. Literally sometimes there's still like embers flying from the from the grill, going down their state and driving ourselves around the southeast and Midwest. On that tour
was that was the roughest. That was definitely the roughest tour. But at the same time, to answer your question, that was when we started to feel some traction and see people. That's when crews came out. We started seeing people show up early to watch us play and sing the words, and me and b K look at each other like, bro, bro, there's like fans out here, dude, Like, holy cow, and
we're starting to fill the momentum. And by the end of that tour we were like we thought we were the biggest thing on the tour, but we were still.
You know, like grilling, grilling, trying to get food.
That's it, dude, dude.
That is who were there any notable acts like on that tour.
Gary Allen was like one of the headliners there was a few more. I think the year before Branley Gilbert had done that, but there was it's a long guy. I can't even remember. I just remember watching Gary Allen.
Uh.
Josh Thompson was on that tour, that tour as well, which I was a big fan of him, but Gary was the headliner. So we were kind of watching and dreaming and taking notes from him.
You watch him.
What were the things he was busy cooking? But yeah, hear from a distance.
Was he one of those guys that turned in earlier or was he up now?
Gary would Gary would stay up. Yeah, he was one of the last. He'd come. He'd get done then come over to our you know area and hang out and have a burger and do the thing. Yeah, he wasn't afraid to stay up late like that.
You guys said all that traction like coming off that tour, like what was the big break, Like what was the big moment where it's going from like oh damn, people are showing up to our shows like begad, this is fucking sick blah blah blah to like the big moment comes and you guys get you know, whether it's a deal whatever it is, where your big break finally came.
I think there was a few moments for me. This sounds a little silly, but when I when I moved to Nashville, I realized there was a career called songwriting, and I was like, oh, I just thought, like everybody wrote their own stuff, like you know what I'm saying. So I realized pretty quickly, like I think that's what I want to do. So when I graduated college, me and BK both we were just pursuing being a songwriter.
And so in twenty twelve, we signed our first deal, and we signed a publishing deal which paid US fifteen hundred dollars a month, and that was they basically asked, what is it going to take to cover your bills and allow you to write full time? And it's about fifteen hundred bucks. So at that point, to be honest, as where as that sounds, I remember feeling like I'm
a professional songwriter now, Like I've done it. Yeah, here we go, and like I don't have to wash cars anymore, Like I can fully wake up and focus on writing songs, which was a dream for me. So that was probably the first like feeling like man, I made it bro like I'm a professional songwriter.
Uh.
And then there was a moment I remember when we've got our first tour bus. That was also after being in vans sprinter vans. We started out in b CA's Tahoe, you know, so like when we got a tour bus to where we could actually lay down and sleep through the night and have a driver. That was one of the biggest moments for us, is like, bro, we've made it.
We got a tour bus.
So there's a lot of you know, along the way moments where you look back and you know, in hindsight you're like, we didn't have nothing really going, but in our in our mind like we had made it.
Yeah, it'sake small steps in totors, you're driving, then you're on the tour bus, extra flying, next flying private. Like there's always like a new level yep, is there when you started to have this level of success, Like what to you is like the pinnacle of reaching whatever new goal you have in your mind.
Right now? Uh wait say that again, right now.
Right now? During Florida Georgia line, during whenever you feel like because right now you're you're in a transition and coming off a great album, going into a new album. But like, let's say the pinnacle of Flora Georgia line, where did you see did you see it going even further? And where was that point?
Oh?
Man?
I think selling out stadiums is obviously sort of the pinnacle of where we took it, where we thought it could go, where we dreamed of it going, you know, and we played I think when we did that tour where we it was a baseball stadium tour and it was Backstreet Boys and Nelly were opening for us, so it was it was Backstreet, Nelly and then us, and it was just, you know, I was living out my wildest you know, childhood dreams basically, or middle school dreams,
being on tour with Nelly and then getting to see Backstreet do their thing, like it was just nostalgic for me. And it was a pretty surreal tour. So I would say that was one of those moments where I'm like, bro, it doesn't get any better than this. Man. We got sold out stadiums and getting to play with some of our heroes, and and you know, to answer your question about it, if if we saw it getting any bigger,
I don't know, man. I mean, the journey was kind of like the trajectory was insane at the beginning, so it really just took us. We just buffled up, dude, and kept our head. You guys exploded on the scene.
It was just like because you you like did a collab with Nelly, right, yeah, which was I remember that, Like that is like, you guys did explode on the scene quick. So you just went like a vertical line and you're.
Just like, yeah, buckle up, bro so and then it kind of like most careers do it it uh, it had to eventually slow down a bit, and uh, and it did, and we had a kind of our ups and downs and kind of some some great seasons and sort of some like oh that didn't hit as hard as we thought. But for the most part, man, I mean that was just the wildest ride. Looking back, I mean, I wouldn't trade anything, I wouldn't change anything, and it
was just incredible. But it really kind of set me up for what we're doing now, you know, being getting to kind of redo it, take everything I learned from back in the day and reapply it to the solo career and also getting to go back and like to where we fell in love with it the first time.
Like these clubs and theaters and smaller venues that are super intimate and you get to connect with the fans and like, uh, because you lose that along the way, like when you get in bigger, bigger venues, it's a lot more difficult, and then it just becomes redundant because you go and you play the same fifty venues over
and over and over in amphitheaters. And so to be able to go back and kind of reinvent myself slash reconnect with the fans and these cool clubs and stuff, it's been like super super awesome and like giving me new energy.
So when you're on the trajectory you're at and you have those years, really okay, that didn't hit as hard as we thought it was going to. Like how how do you like navigate the ego in that situation? Because if you're on this crazy trajectory and you think where it's gonna keep going like this because it inevitably we all think like, oh, this is gonna happen forever until reality sets in. When those lulls did happen, what was your mindset of Is it like, hey, I just got to work harder, or was it.
Like so, and I had people on the come up that were like, hey, bro, this ain't gonna last forever. I kept and not a ton of people would say that. But when it did, it really stuck with me that you need to be prepared for when this is not doing what it's doing, because it won't do it forever. Right, So I was somewhat mentally prepared for the trajectory to somewhat level out, and when it did, I do think
it motivated me. Uh for sure, Like I'm kind of a driven dude and and uh and probably more competitive than I'd like to give myself credit for. But yeah, to have a little bit of a challenge or a struggle or to not or to try to understand why didn't that connect like we thought it would. Uh, you know a lot of learning lessons along the way. But I would say, you know, the ego thing, Uh, I don't know, man, I took it. I took it in stride.
I think I think it was good for us to have little blows of the ego okay aasionally and keep us kind of grounded and then and then yeah, nothing more humbling than having to start all over again, you know, not from ground zero. But pretty close to it. So it's been the last couple of years for me have been just a lesson, a life lesson in humility and you know, and taking and taking that challenge head on,
you know what I'm saying. I'll had a couple of people tell me like, well, you can't come out of a band and then have a successful It's like never been done. Like nobody's had a big solo career after being a major career in a band. So I heard that like two or three times, and I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, let's go there go Yeah.
Yeah, that is true. I mean it's like the example a lot of people are aware of due to the movie. But Queen, yeah, he broke up. Yeah, and Freddie kind of tries to do his own thing. Why why go the solo route? Like what happened beyond the Way with you and BK? That's like to where Florida Georgia line can be forever?
Yeah, a good question. I mean for me, it was it was really unexpected. But BK came to me and said, man, I'm really feeling like I want to do a solo thing. And I'm like really, I'm like we were just getting out of our first deal. We were kind of in a sweet spot that we had worked for ten years to get to, and I'm like, bro, like, why don't we just ride this, ride this thing out for like five more years, ten more years, and then we can do the solo thing or whatever. But but again, like
I wanted to support him. He was adamant, like, now now's my time. I really need to do this for myself. And I'm like, well, hey, whatever you need to do, bro, Like what do you want from me? He's like, I just want support. So I'm like, all right, you got it, bro, Like we've had an incredible ride. If this is where it's gonna go, like, let's do it and crush it and you never know, maybe it'll bring us back together
and we can have a reunion tour or whatever. But uh, but it was he definitely initiated the whole thing from the beginning, and it kind of when I say, caught me off guard. It wasn't that we had never mentioned it before. It's just one of those things where I
didn't think then. I didn't think it was gonna happened then, you know what I mean, Yeah, coming into a spot to where yeah, just in a sweet spot, just gotten out of our first deal, able to kind of negotiate where we want to go from there and have a lot of freedom, and we're in a great place. But yeah, for him, that was the right time, and and for me, I was like, well I'll just again. I kind of thought, well,
I'll just stay in town and be a songwriter. That sounds like a fun gig, you know, just eleven to three life and hang out with I AM. At that point, I had we had just had our third kid, so I was pretty uh, you know, in the deep end on being a dad and figuring all that out. So I was pretty pretty occupied. But then a year or so later, I was like, man, I really miss like making records, I miss being on tour, I missed the
whole aspect of the artist life. And so uh so, yeah, then I met I met my manager and felt really supported. I was like, man, I don't die back into this and see what I can do. And again, like I said, hurt, I heard that it couldn't be done. A couple of times I was like, man, I'd like to try.
Yeah.
So uh so, yeah, just sort of timing and life in general just sort of led us in that direction and uh, something that now I'm really grateful for. It has been a lot of fun. Rebuilding has been a
lot of fun. Like it's incredible doing something with your friend and having a partner, but taking the dynamic back to the basics of just like me getting to be the leader that i'd like to be and getting to do it on my own and getting to kind of kind of build culture around uh, you know the type of culture that I want to that I want to build.
And you got to think about it. When we started FGIL, we were like twenty three years old, bro Like, like we were just young, dumb and on a mission, you know what I'm saying, and learning as we were going. Now I get to kind of take all that and kind of rebuild with that in mind and a little bit more maturity and a little bit more uh gratitude and humility and all that makes for uh makes it for a fun a fun ride.
When you're first like presenting with the hey I want to go amound so route, Like, is your first reaction I'm gonna support you or is it the natural? Yeah?
Like you know you're just like, hey busting, We're not Hey, I'm not podcast just thinking what what's going on to you right now?
Be like hey, well, I know it's a contract here, but honestly, you're just like support as your friend. I need your support and you're just like okay, I support you.
Ship.
Yeah, the human nature like anybody who essentially, like if you're together for ten years, like there's a level of divorce, like you guys are in a marriage essentially, and then you're not the one approaching the person about leaving. There's got to be some type of like, you know, are you all the.
Work I did, Bro, all this supported you like where we've came from, where we've been, right, you were just the toppings guy, right.
Yeah, right. There was definitely a period of time where I was just like confused and I'm just like, bro, like why like why now? And I even told him We had good conversations around it, like even like being real vulnerable, I'm like, bro, is it not like I feel like I'm not enough for you? Like you know what I mean? Like, honestly, it felt like a divorce where you're like bro, and BK had this thing where he's like, no, I still want to do Florida Georgia line. I just want to do the solo thing.
Do you want to open relationship?
And I had to tell him, I go, bro, from an emotional standpoint, I said, I know this is dramatic, but this is what it feels like. It feels like we're in a marriage and everything's great and we love the benefits, but you want to go sleep with the neighbors and come home at night and me be cool with it and just like jump back in bed and everything's cool and ah blah blah. And I said, emotionally, it feels like that, bro, Like I can't, I can't
do both. I said, I'm going to give you the choice, but it's either Florida Georgia line or solo career, because also I don't have capacity to like do two careers. And I said, it's all so like super it's gonna get super sticky, like when we're writing songs who were writing for when we're when we got two show offers, an FGL day and a solo date, like what are
we taking here? So like I'm just like I don't even logistically see how that would work, much less emotionally, so like unless BK, it opens for both of you, right.
Of writing, like who's or Hey, that's a bang. Are we thinking we're gonna use that?
Like, one thing I didn't know is like, Yo, it takes every ounce of creativity and energy that we got to keep this thing going. And we've always poured all of our energy into this, so like to think that we can only pour half of our energy into this and expect it to do anything is a little bit naive. And then I also told him, I'm like, bro, if you want to be a solo artist, you don't deserve to give yourself fifty percent, and I don't deserve fifty
of you. So it's either you give me one hundred percent or you give yourself one hundred percent of you, so you can go crush it. But there's no like, we're not just gonna half ass both things. So so for me it was that's kind of where my that was my one boundary, you know. I was like, Yo, I'm all about it, dude, Like whatever you need to do, but here's my boundary. And so kind of gave him the choice and he chose to go do the solo thing.
And at the time, like you said, I was kind of like, man like, dude, like this sucks, bro, like we built. Look what we've built.
You know what I'm saying together like you and.
Me, you know what I'm saying. And uh so, Yeah, there was definitely some weeks of kind of like healing. I would say, you know what I'm saying, Like we had talks with therapists and life coaches and we kind of susted it all out.
Yeah, they were separate together that's awesome. Yeah, Uh, it's legitimately a marriage.
Yeah.
The more you talk about it, it's.
Like yo, And it was always right. I compared it to that quite a bit because other than the sexual side of things, it was very similar to our marriages, where just like you know, it's a commitment, it takes work, it takes dedication, and you know, it's all the things when it comes to a partnership, uh, especially at that capacity.
You know.
So it was it's been interesting to navigate, but it's also been fun and looking in hindsight now, I'm like grateful for where we're at, grateful for that ride, grateful for the new you know ride that we're on, and you know, wouldn't have ever done it if he had initiated it. So at the end of the day, I kind of just sort of grateful that he did, you know.
All right, So the way I'm picturing this in my head is you're in a ten year marriage. Everything seems good, comes home, honey, listen, I love you, but I think we should make this marriage open. You're like, I'm not going to do that. You have to make a decision. The decisions made. You're going through a divorce essentially, and you think, in your mind, I'm never gonna get married again. AKA, I'll be a songwriter. I can kind of fade off
in the distance. I've had all this success and I can go make money making this catalog because that's where a lot of the money's at. How long was that process before You're like, you know what, fuck this dude. Enough people have said the solo acting can't happen. Like, if he's gonna go do it, I can go do it too. And in your mind everyone's in competition, right, probably do that better.
Also, I think it was eight months or so summer. Six or eight months is not a ton of time went by, but enough for me to really process, take my time, be patient. And then the kicker was when I met my manager, because before I felt really alone, right, and I knew I just felt by alone. I mean, I just didn't have tons of support. I didn't feel like I had a team around me. I felt super alone. And I knew, like definitely been in the game long enough to know like you ain't doing it on your own,
you got to have a good team around you. So when I met my manager, I felt super supported and I was just like, you know what, I think I could do this, especially with the help of this management team. And I had already been writing a bunch of songs at that point too, so I also had a good stack of songs where I'm like, and I could make a record tomorrow, so like, why not give it a shot?
You know.
But it did take that that like meeting him and feeling like, all right, I'm not loaning this. I have support team, I have somebody and bounce ideas off of because BK was a lot of that for me coming up. We bounced ideas off each other, and so when that was kind of gone, I'm like, man, I don't I don't know how to do this by myself.
So you know it tall, Yeah, talk about that fear of failure, because I would say it's like literally top of the world to I just went through this divorce that probably took a while. There's probably friction everything else. It takes eight months of the kind of the emotional healing of it all and kind of seeing everything for what it is, Like, Hey, I got you know, I
kind of want to move on. I'm writing, I like it, and now I'm kind of getting that itch to you know, I kind of want to perform, but talk through that fear of failure. You're like, Okay, I'm going to go back out there, and yeah, man, like falling flat on your face. It we all have it. It's like you we have this ego built up from like our glory days. It's like, I'm about to put myself back out there. Talk a little bit about that fear failure getting back in it.
I mean, there was definitely a little bit of fear involved, and I would say for me, I had to mentally just say like, yo, do who you doing this for? You know what I'm saying, Like you're doing it for you or you doing it for some other reason. So I had to really just say like if I'm writing songs that I'm loving, if I'm recording and I'm proud
of my art. Then that's all I can do, right, So, like, whether it's as big as FGL, it probably won't be because not many artists have ever been as big as FGL. So it's like I had to kind of just accept, like this might look different for me, but I want to go write songs that I'm passionate about that I love that might connect with other people and start playing shows again. Also, you know, I also had so much more to lift for right, So it wasn't like do
or die with the music thing. It was like, man, let me just go enjoy making music and playing shows and just enjoy it and not worry about having to be the best all the time. Because then I was getting to come home to three kids a great wife. So in my perspective, I was like, yo, I'm already I'm winning, man, Like, even if the music thing isn't as big as FGL or trajectory doesn't take off like crazy, Like I'm proud of my album, I'm proud of who I am, I'm proud of how we've handled the situation,
and I'm proud to come now. I get to come home to a great family, and this is how I want to continue to support them, you know, and I had to do something. I mean, writing songs would have supported my family, but but it just seemed like a piece of the puzzle, not not the whole puzzle. So yeah, there was I had to step into that a bit and be like, hey, if I fail, I'm gonna learn from it and get back up and keep crushing and not put too much pressure on myself. Try not to
let my ego drive this thing. And you know, remember what life's all about.
Yeah, so at one point seems like, at least the way I would think is I'm gonna go through my morning process. But then the thing that's going to get me out of that bed is revenge. Best revenge is massive success. And then it's like, okay, I got to check myself and be like, maybe maybe don't do it for those reasons, right right right, And all the things you just said when you were when you did those eight months eight months of like writing songs and you're like, okay,
I'm gonna go do this solo act. Now U and BK shouldering the burden of being a lead together. What were some of the things that BK maybe have done more in FGL that you thought, Okay, I know that he did this for the most part, and how do I pick up that slack on my end becoming my own individual person.
Good question, Bro. I'd say he was a lot of the times he was like the fun loving, like funny guy, like lighthearted, brought a lot of good energy to a room. You know, everybody loved to be around BK. Especially for the most of our career. He was just like and I might have been more like I don't know, maybe a little bit less of that person.
So so.
I'd say there were times where he was a great leader in those types of things, and I was able to sit take the back seat a bit, you know, and even subconsciously because I was more the lead vocal and more of the face. At times, I would subconsciously step out of certain roles more to allow him to step into certain roles, so that hopefully it was well balanced,
you know what I mean. And so so now, you know, taking on all the roles and putting all them, I guess the pressure or all the responsibility on my shoulders was definitely new. But also again it was great because it allowed me to step into those roles that maybe
I hadn't fully stepped into. Before the to the best of my ability, and so now I'm able to kind of lead the way that i'd like to be a leader, create culture that's not always worrying about like am I stepping on someone that my partner's toes or am I overshadowing my partner too much by investing in these people's lives or those types of things. So it's been interesting to kind of navigate and like and see how that's, uh, that's something I didn't even know, like until I was
in it. I didn't even know that, like, oh, yeah, I remember like not really investing as much into this because I didn't I didn't want to look like I was trying to just like always, you know.
Like do too much or do too much, yeah, try to take too much with the life.
You can tell you've thought a lot of this stuff through, and I really appreciate and like respect kind of your perspective on all, because I'm sure it was as much as well as you can explain it right now, I'm sure it was just such a like process to get to a lot of these awareness points and everything else.
Totally, and especially y'all remember like what twenty twenty was like twenty twenty one. I mean, it was chaos in all aspects of life. So like before we even decided to do this, we had already been off the road for like a year and a half, like wondering are we ever going to play shows again? Like what's going
on with our career? Then the political thing, the political narrative came out that me and him were so different, polarizing, you know, politically, and a lot of people had these faults narratives about why this was even happening, because we weren't super upfront with the fans from the beginning, and so that was also a little unfortunate where I'm like, I'm in the back seat thinking like, no, guys, that's
not really the situation or not really the case. But you can't control what people are thinking or saying, so you just kind of got a ride with it and just stick to your truth and just and let it be. So that was interesting, just an interesting few years of I mean, we all kind of went through just an interesting like how do we navigate the pandemic? How do we navigate all these factors in our culture at the time, So it was a it was a confusing and hard time but grateful for it.
And it seems like, yeah, when all these narratives and all these like false things of why you guys are breaking up or mutually parting, like how did you? Like you obviously want to say something like did you go and hit the people up? Like, hey, can I say this?
I felt like it was not really my h I don't want to say responsibility, but it wasn't my role, I felt like, and I felt like it was something that I want to be a k to do, and I felt like it was his. I didn't want to take that from him. I didn't want to be like, no,
here's the situation, guys, blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, So I kind of just sat back and I kept telling bek bro, we need to like I'd really love for you to tell the fans like what's going on, Like tell them your heart, tell them what we're doing, tell them why we're doing it, tell them give them, I said, because we want our fans to join us on our new journey. We don't want them to just just in with FGL and wonder whatever happened with FGL
and when's FGL coming back? It needs to be a transition and these fans we built for the last decade that they can come with us if we allow them to and open the door and give them context. But otherwise they're just confused and they're angry. Yeah, we're just sitting in the back and assume everybody makes up the
worries in their heads. So that was happening a lot, and it kind of still does because we still haven't really you know, it's not like me and b K have sat on it, sat down together and told the world like the real ins and outs, because I still think me and him both still have different, somewhat different
narratives in our head about how it unfolded. But uh, but ultimately, we didn't talk about it very candidly from the beginning, so it allowed a lot of that kind of like people to make up stories and this and that, and then you throw politics in the middle of it and everybody just then it's an easy target for everybody to be like, oh, yeah, well it's we see why they broke up, you know, and it's like, well, really had nothing to do.
With that, but yeah whatever, you know, Yeah, it's just probably one of the how how often have you spoken this openly? About that whole situation just.
A few times.
Yeah.
Yeah, most people are uncomfortable talking about it really, Yeah, I fine, just because I don't know why. I don't know if it's there uncomfortable.
Their personal business. And for you to sit with a microphone in your face and for me and Will to be like, so tell us about your breakup, Yeah, it's got to. It's a You're essentially opening yourself up to not only us but everybody listening.
Right. It's therapeutic for me honestly, Like at this point especially, it's been like three and a half years, so I've, like you said, well, I've really processed a lot, and so to talk about it it is just another part of the process for me. And uh, I'm kind of an open book. I don't mind talking about it.
It might have almost like I'm just picturing it, like if I'm like chilling with them. There's not a level of you that's that wants to it's like, hey, so so what happened? Because it almost you'd almost think the outside or a third party perspective would just be like, oh, I probably ended badly, and it might it might not be going as great as it once was because FGL was so high, so you almost like you almost don't want to open up something that might be close to
you where it's like, Okay, I don't want to. I mean we navigate.
You and I've done each other for what four years, and so I was your friend during all that. I never once for that exact reason, be around you, knowing all this stuff's going down. But in my head, I'm like, I don't want to. Hey, so Tyler, so what's going on with all this? Because you just don't want to put your friend in that position.
Yeah. Yeah, You're like, I don't know how people handle it, you know, you don't know if people are more of an open book that like to talk about things, or maybe they like to keep it all in. But for me, I appreciated and enjoyed when my real friends would be like, hey, bro, like you doing all right?
Bro?
Doing good?
Like how you feeling, man? Because this shit is not easy, you know what I'm saying. And I'd be like, you're right, it's not easy and I'm doing okay. But here's my you know, but I'm frustrated or this or that. So so we had and again that was during the time where we weren't able to see anybody. We weren't able to go really hang out. If you remember, it was all just like virtual dates and virtual rights and virtual everything. Yeah,
you know, emotions were high. People didn't want to talk about anything that could potentially be touchy or controversial or or anything.
Topason only wanted to talk about that, right. It was like one of the two.
Right, you're right, you're right. So there's a lot of that going on. But uh, yeah, I had some some good buddies that you know, I kind of leaned leaned on and kind of like, you know, help me process through it.
All we should do is get a couple of years down the road, get you and b K on here, just hash it out.
Just hash it out.
Therapy, therapeutic sessions with William.
Partners to partners. Yeah you do, you guys talk anymore.
It's pretty minimal now, bro, I don't I don't know if b K needs some space or what. But I still try to reach out on texts and stuff.
But hey, congrats on me.
Yeah that's what I do. Yeah, just congrats on the new song or whatever whatever. But uh, there's not a whole lot of engagement at.
This point to be honest, you feel like FGL will get back together for reunion at some point down the road.
It's really hard to say. Yeah, I'll never. I'll never say never, but a lot of stuff would have to change, to be honest, A lot of dynamics would have to There'd have to be some real long open conversations. Yeah, some healing would have to be done for sure before that ever happened.
Yeah, hopefully, guys both just can never know.
Yeah, man, just bring it back. I still I really yeah, exactly, that'd be kind of cool. I love that like narrative honestly, even if it's ten years down the road. Like That's why I really wish the best for b K. I hope he has a huge solo career because yeah, if we both have big careers and then come back and do something cool together, I think you could be there.
Yeah.
Remember when we were bitching out back in the day, like right, Yeah, it was.
Like, hey, I'm sorry, both of them.
Probably I'm sorry. No, he knows. I tell him, I'm like, Bro, I'm always here, bro if you ever want to like talk, grab coffee, like going to hike, Like, I'm here, Bro, I'm not mad at you. Uh, so it's good. I think he knows. He knows I'm at and he knows that I'm doing my thing, but I'm still here for him.
Yeah, talk about do you had something to go?
Just say so eight months down the road, you start this, your management team comes to you, like, how quickly because you should you do other songs on the banks, so you do an album tomorrow. How quickly did that process get started?
It was pretty quick, bro, Once we hit the gas, I mean it was like, let's start recording music, let's start setting up strategy. What I loved about my new team was it was everything we do is super intentional, so like strategic everything. Yeah, so it's fun to really sit down, all right, what are we going to do here? What's the goals? How do we want to you know,
reintroduce you to the world. Like what I found was a lot of people didn't really know who I was, Like as far as like who Tyler Hubbard is as a person. They thought they knew Florida George Line even in town, you know, like we had a reputation. People just assumed I was BK and BK was me, and we were one unit and we were the same and they also assume that we never changed in ten years, you know what I mean, that we're still just these crazy, wild,
you know, three year old ego testicle. Yeah, and they're like all sleeves and a bunch of ego like we were twenty three years old even when we were thirty, right. It's like, so and that was probably part of partially
our fault. But what I but I didn't realize that until I stepped into the solo thing, and that took me a minute to reintroduce myself to to not only the world, but to Nashville and to the music community and kind of say like, hey, you guys know the twenty three year old Tyler, but now I'm thirty four years old and I you know, I'm a different person and I want to introduce who I am now and
here's the music I'm working on. And uh so all that was kind of like a blessing too, if you know, in hindsight, because you're like, man like, if we were still doing fgl like we might just still be known as the twenty three year old party band, you know. So again, it's just another one of those kind of blessings along the way that I got to re reintroduce myself and kind of rebuild my reputation, this more authentic to who I am at this point.
You know, yeah, dude, I'm so fascinated to kind of know about the behind the scenes stuff of the business of music, because, like you you alluded to it earlier. You're like, oh, they're paying me, you know, how much does it take to cover your expenses a month or something like that. And if you're a big brain think, you're like, oh, man Tyler, he has no clue that he's an incredible writer. And if we're just dishing of fifteen hundred bucks a month for him to pump out
songs that we might use, that they might use. And then you also alluded to we're about to be out of this first deal to where we're kind of set up for whatever we want to do. And then now you're talking about you know, I'm sending in these meetings, we're talking about strategizing. How am I going to reintroduce myself? Can you talk about some of that behind the scenes stuff with FGL because it seems like you guys just exploded. People saw like, oh shit, these guys are gonna be massive.
Let's put enough dollars around him that we need to capitalize on. We'll throw FGL house down downtown, We'll do all these things. You're not in the strategy meetings. Can you talk about that at all? Yeah?
I mean the music business is crazy, bro, and I think that's why I love it. And it's never it's always changing. So like, for example, when we signed our first record deal in twenty twelve, there wasn't even streaming back then, you know what I'm saying, which was like forever ago. But Spotify was no Spotify, there was no Pandora, there was no Apple Music. I mean it was Apple. It was where you go and buy songs.
Yeah, remember that felt taboo because you'd still just lime wire right.
Stealing the music, or you're going and buying an album, right. And that was and that changed pretty quickly, Like thirteen fourteen or so is when that streaming really became a thing.
So even that as a as an example, where like, you know, you create this whole record deal around this whole business model, and then all of a sudden, the business model changes and there's new revenue being created from streaming, this going to the label that they didn't even account for in the original deal, so like for them, it was a huge win. But but yeah, bro, like the music. That's why I love the music business because as as soon as you get it figured out, it changes and
you're just like okay. But it's also super complex and complicated. And I even went to school for music business, Bro, I went to Belmont Study. That was my major music business and I probably could learned more in school, to be honest with myself, but I still felt like.
Degree.
But I'm still pretty green and I'm still like, even to this day, I'm figuring it out, you know. But it's a lot of fun because it is so intricate and there's so so many layers you can kind of unfold, unpeel and and uh from the publishing company side of things, to the record label side, to the management side, to development side and artists side. I mean, there's just a
lot of intricate little yeah things. So it's uh, it can be a scary business just because you never really fully understand it all right, but it's also fun keeps you on your toes because it's not it's not static.
Would there be friction with the label, like when the new revenue would get generated from like the streaming service and be like, okay, well, I mean contractually they have the right suc X, Y and Z, but give me a little bit yeah, let me get a little bit on.
We had a pretty good dynamic and relationship with our record label through our whole career, probably because we were making them so much money, but it was good, you know, and we had kind of the relationship where they were a little more like behind the scenes and we would go and do our thing creatively and then just turn in our projects and ask them for our needs and
they would usually give us what we needed. And it was kind of because sometimes you get too many cooks in the kitchen, you know, people want to be involved, and it can get really it can get more difficult, cluttered up everybody's opinions because music is so objective and opinionated that it's just sometimes it's like, no, we just want to keep a tight circle of creatives that we love and trust, and we're going to have you know, our manager, our producer and basically me and BK we're
going to make the decisions and execute all the things and then we'll we'll turn it in and the label we'll you know, exploit it. Or work it or however you want to look at it. But so for that, but I talked to artists friends of mine. You know that it can just get so diluted and confusing and uh kind of over complicated.
Yeah.
Sure, so it's a it's a complex thing. But we we we got pretty lucky along the way. To be honest, we never we never had that. But I set this. I set the stage really early when the first label meeting we ever had, I was like, look again, this is that twenty three year old ego coming out. But I was like, hey, guys, we don't even need y'all. Me and BK got this and we're gonna build and
we're out here building fans and building a career. If you guys want to be a part of our career, then you're welcome to join us, but you're going to do it our way, and we're going to learn from you guys. But you guys aren't going to dictate what we do. You're not going to try to change us, tell us what to do. None of that's happened here. So if you guys want to sign us, just know
that ahead of time. And and literally that kind of stood the test of time, and they really kind of like something ego sounds good, good will, it's a little bit of both, but it was like beneficial ego, right or whatever, Like yeah, right, that's just the ego you need, just the amount of confidence, like set the stage for what's happen, because a lot of times artists don't know who they are, what they want to do, or nothing like that, and it makes it easy for labels to
come in and somewhat manipulate or you know, I think they're going to mold somebody into what they want. A lot of times that doesn't just just doesn't work well. So it was nice to have that already kind of in place with.
Your process and like setting that tone. Did you ever run into the label being like, hey, maybe you should make the song a little more X Y and Z, a little more poppy, a little more like this, because this is what's in right now, this is what the region, this is what labels.
Do do that.
Yeah, sure, But for some reason in our scenario, it was they just trusted us, and I think I don't know if we spoke this out loud, but it was sort of that understanding of you do it our way until it don't work, and then we'll listen to your way. And fortunately for us, it always kind of worked. So we never had a real like creative dispute or kind of you know, we didn't really butt haas too much. It was very much like, Okay, whatever you guys want to do, we'll do it, and it most of the
time that worked out. There was a few times where they pushed on a single. I mean we did have We did but heads once or twice, and but ultimately it worked out. But for the most part, I was thankful. It was just like, hey, y'all, let us do our thing, and we'll let y'all do your thing.
What was the single they pushed on.
It was one of the last singles. I think wanted us to put out a little Bit as a single at country radio, which is basically a hip hop song, and we knew it was going to be our last single, and I was just like, I'd rather not put that single out because radios first of all, not going to play this song. Secondly, I don't want to end on a hip hop song. I wanted to I want to end strong on a great country song. You know, we've got an album full.
Of country songs.
So that was a little bit of like that was a little frustrating because ultimately the label has the power to do whatever they wanted to do.
Really, yeah, of the day, so you have your voice like we have.
They kind of pulled that card and did their thing and and that's why I'm not right now. But it worked out. Yeah, it worked out. It was great.
When you talk about the strategy of like rebranding yourself thirty four year old Tyler Hubbard to the entire world, Like what went into the strategy? Like how obviously you're uniquely yourself and you know who your yourself is, but how does one show themselves in the light they want to be shown to the world.
Well, yo, I first of all had to go on a deep dive myself because.
I think, you know, yeah, yeah, me and Rogers dude talking to God, just having a journey.
But no, dude, I said, I sat, uh, spent some time like really diving into like who I am now, how do I want to be portrayed? How do I want to present myself? What's important to me? What do I want to say in my music? What do what do I want my music to make people feel?
Like?
You know and ultimately, uh, it was it was a really good time of self discovery, you know what I'm saying, where I was like, Okay, it felt like I knew myself well at that point, but I I had to kind of vocalize it. And because I think even me, even myself would kind of fall to that, uh, holding up the reputation that we might have had. You know what I'm saying, like, well, I can't do this and
that within FGL because it's not what FGL does. So when the when the slate was kind of white clean, and I was able to just like really suck it out and take some time to think about it again, I have I had a great life coach. It helped kind of like navigate that.
With me.
Once the song started like coming together. I mean I probably had a pile of like thirty or forty songs that I really loved, but like narrowing it down to an album and figuring out, Okay, I wanted to be dynamic, diverse. I want people to know that, Hey, I still like to have a good time, but I love my family. I'm a man of faith. I like to you know,
I like to write songs from the heart too. You know, there's I lost my dad when I was twenty, So let's touch on that, like letting the fans in on my on a little bit more of who I am and where I came from, my story with some that I had never got to do before, you know, because usually you know, when you got a partner and you're in a you're in a group, you don't get as personal with it, you know, just again just for that dynamic aspect, so that everything we do is like an
US thing. So so that was it was really fun to dive in and be like, man, who am I? And what do I you know, what do I want to leave? What's my legacy?
You know?
Do I want to I don't want I think FGL is just like chapter one, you know, and so so yeah, it was cool to kind of go there and figure it out. And I feel like now people probably know the most authentic version of who I am, and uh, it's been fun to kind of figure that out when.
You're when when you go in this deep dive and you come back, what is how did your management team publicly display you? Okay, you're a man of faith, family man, write songs from the heart, lost your dad when you were twenty, was there like a strategy that went to, Okay, we need your social media. It's going to look like X Y or kind of because there's there is a level of like to change your reputation, you need to first change it yourself and then present it to the world.
How does how does the management team present it to the world.
Well, first of all, I'll never forget one of the first meetings I had with the management team was I sat down with them and they had a They had like a two page paper full of questions that were like some were service level, some were like really hard questions who are you? Like what do you what do you want to say to the world, Like really hard questions that I like sat with and live with, you know.
So they were getting to know me through that process, But I was getting to know myself in that current, current state and that current time. And so once we sort of established that and they had a good grasp of like who I am, my personality, what what kind of like personality traits we wanted to lean in on that were, you know, really who I was. It was fun to kind of to kind of strategize together. But a lot of that came with sitting down with the town,
if you will, and just face to face meetings. Man, just playing on my knee music, sharing with my heart, sharing where I was, who I was, and then just trying to be fully me. You know, there's a there's a lot of different sides of who I am. But it was fun to kind of and it took time, dude,
I mean we spent weeks. You know, they'd set up meetings with all the DSPs individually, so I'd sit down and just sort of reintroduce myself very very literally in a sense of like you know, I know, you guys know me from FGIL, but here's who I am and where I'm at now in life. And we got to say, and it says when the town or win the room,
when the town win the world. So we literally started in a room, you know what I mean, And slowly but surely we but like we were winning the room, and then we would then we were winning the town, and now we're winning the world. Trying to you know, as a as a process strategy, as opposed, it doesn't happen overnight either. It's just you know, one thing at a time. So that was kind of ourmo It was.
Probably awesome too, like once you start playing for everybody, like them, seeing the reaction, the positive reaction to your new music, because yeah, you're getting to know yourself, which is a very vulnerable state for anybody to be in to do that. And they'd be like, all right, well now I'm about to step out here in front of everybody, like, let's go fucking see.
See if they Let's see if they resonate.
Yeah.
Putting out that first single or playing those first few shows, you know, you're just like, well, ope, they dig it. Yeah, they're coming to this.
But walking into the room with like your a guitar, be like, all right, guys playing some of this new music. I am were just suit sitting there like give us your best shot, brother, Yeah, that's gotta be nerve wracking.
Kind of well for sure.
Yeah that's definitely let me do that again. Let me hit that one much?
Yeah yeah yeah, but it was fun. God, the challenge.
So the first album comes out, see like it seemed like I was doing really well. I don't follow ratings or anything like that. Were you surprised? Happy? Like what was your first like your emotions towards your first album solo? They came out.
I was pumped. Bro.
Yeah.
The first single went to number one, and I think that was sort of like, Okay, okay, there, you know, I still have a spot at country radio. They're still you know, they're behind me, They're backing me. I felt more and more support. So with more and more support, it just came more momentum and more confidence, you know what I mean. And then I dropped my album and
it was received really well. And then my second single came to country radio and it went to number one, and again it was just like, okay, all right, I'm back in the game, baby, I'm you know, and I'm competitive. I got I got a slot at country radio because it is a super competitive. There's so many artists out there that are trying to get that spot, you know what I mean. So it was really nice to be like, Okay,
I still got support from country radio. The fans are resonating with the music at the time, you know, last year, playing tons of shows and watching every night, just kind of grow and grow and grow, and just kind of took that momentum into my next project. And at this point, I'm feeling like, man, I've kind of found my stride. I'm in a groove, the fans are showing up, and it's just steady growing and watching it grows is fun.
Yeah, all for you too, yep, but just gotta be Are you a unique feeling? Yeah for sure when you look at your this album, what it like? Obviously the songs are gonna be different. But what is a different vibe between this new album coming out and your last album?
Ah, this one's probably it's a little shorter. I say this album is kind of creative for the fans, and uh, I've been saying this, but it's so true. Like last year was the first time that I met my fans, like my personal fans, like in person and got to play show a show for them and watch what's resonating, see what's connecting, see what's working, see what's missing.
You know.
So I was at the same time that I was out playing all these shows, I was also taking mental notes and being like all right, going straight back to the bus and starting to write songs that were like I feel like this set could use this, or I feel like I want to play something like this live, or I think the fans really dig this, And so we kind of reverse engineered this project and it's it's just made. It's just a fun project. It's really made to play live, and it's it's really for the fans.
Where my first project, my first album was the sole purpose was to introduce myself, you know, and to say here, here's who I am. Face name songs. You know, it's very just cutting druy. I mean you can even look at the album cover. It's like face name songs, you know. Like so so now it's a little bit like okay, now we know each other. Now let's let's have some fun with it. So yeah, it's feeling good a song for the fans.
You talk about writing like like going right from a venue into the bus, yeah, and getting after it. You hear like when all the breakup and stuff is going on, there's all the nationals a small town, so everyone's whispering to everybody else's business. And I always heard, like the guy he really writes all the music. He's really the guy, the writer. And so how hard, Like what is your process like writing is it does it come very naturally to you writing?
It does? Yeah, it does, And I've been doing it for so long and I just love like living in Nashville and being around so many epic songwriters, you know what I mean, and getting in the room and collaborate and then just writing songs. And a lot of times, you know, I've written with no intention, you know, just to write a song, to write a song and see where it goes to like, hey, this song's for us. Let's try to be very intentional with this song. We
want to record the song. And then I've also, especially lately, I've been doing tons of rits with other artists, which is probably one of my top favorite things to do is try to like, you know, I guess pull from another artist, like what do you want to say? What do you basically hang the dartboard is what I call it, and then sit there and try to hit bulls eye with the song and so and when you when you hit a bull's eye and you leave that day, you just feel so like fulfilled. I think this is going
to be perfect for this artist. Hopefully this artist now can have a big old hit and they can have a career, you know, And so that's really fulfilling for me as a songwriter. But but yeah, when it comes to writing, for me, it did take a little bit of time to kind of like shift the narrative and think, Okay, I'm not writing for a band, I'm not writing for FGL. This is a whole nother thing. So what do I want to What do I want this to be? Like?
How do I get to know this artist and bring out what they're wanting to say?
Yeah? Bro, I sit in a room and just start asking questions for a little while before we even get going right, and I'm just like, all right, Like what's next? Where do you want to go? What kind of song do you want to?
You know?
Do?
What do you need? You know?
When are you recording next? What's your projects sound like?
You know?
Just because if you're writing, if you don't set the intention, then you can write a great song and it can be like a great song that completely doesn't fit what they're doing. So sometimes it's important.
But we're some of those guys that to write with the most. Yeah, yeah, you know a lot of those guys know who his favorites were, not favorites.
I'm sure he loves them all, But couple collaborations, man, there's some good ones.
Dude. Chase McGill comes to the top of mine. He's a buddy of mine. That's just super talented. My producer Jordan Smith. He's a lot of fun to write with. I've been writing with him for years and he's just become quite the song smith. Michael Hardy Sorry Hardy, Yeah he is. He is one of the best. In my opinions. We've been writing for a long time.
It was the first day I heard his first name too, Michael.
Okay, all right, I got it.
That's when uh snow, he's an Ernest. He's a sick He's a sick writer.
I knew that one. That's an OG throwback, right.
Uh, there's a lot, bro. I mean, there's some legends, Rodney Clawson's and you know, Craig Wiseman, people that believed in me coming up. I still love writing with them and look up to them a ton. But like I said, there's this town is so full of great writers, dude, it's crazy. Josh Miller comes to mind. He's one of the greatst Casey Brown producer writer that I love. So we're gonna keep going.
So nobody them all.
Thanks.
We don't forget anybody. Ernest dude, he seems like, I mean, that's the one that comes to mind for me always as.
Far as song would be a lot of fun in the room with They can both do anything. They can do rap, rock, country, really well, you know, really well, yeah, Emo album, it's so good. But I'm like, bro, you don't even know, right, I got a phone full of songs that y'all ain't never heard. They are gonna blow your mind that this is Ernest right, he sounds.
Like that, you know.
I mean he's been on me about releasing that Emo. Know that podcast we did in super Bowl with him?
Oh? I know he he hit the chat recently, did he? I think we got a reason to have him back on too?
Oh do we? Yeah album?
No?
O ye yeah, not for the tyler you know, no, no, we.
Can't in front of time. Just don't want to give the fans the people.
You're right, You're right, it's something we can cut, It's right. Yeah. But the Ernest, that dude, this the shitty pulls out of his ass right nowhere. To me, is like so impressive and the the uh like the fear, like you know, it's like singing in front of somebody just on a whim. It's kind of like nerve wracking. Even I don't sing, but I'll do it, but I get nervous and ernest will just kind of just start singing for no reason.
Sometimes out of nowhere. You're kind of just like, you know, and I was just like like, oh, okay, I guess we're in it. You'll seem like, not ten seconds he'll sing tun and a the whole slide right, the whole song. Yeah, like we we enjoyed ourselves.
Yeah, Yeah, he's a He's a beast, bro he really. It's been fun watching him come into his own and you know, do his thing.
He's got an album coming out similar time as you too, is he? Yeah?
Great, I believe nobody's gonna I.
Guess I should have said, I don't know. He got like twenty six songs on that thing.
When does When's your new album come out?
April twelfth?
April twelfth, Let's fucking Garnes comes.
Out April eleven around the corner, right.
He's like cock clock right, you don't know what it is. I know it's a summertime, but April twelfth, is anybody else on the albums? Are just you?
Just me?
Man like collaborations? Yeah, but I'm about ready. I need to dive back into the collab world. I've been pretty intentional about I said no to a lot just because I'm really not time. I still need to like basically get my own two feet playing it in the ground, and then we can get back to making some music.
How do you sift through that in your mind of like doing a collaboration, Like if a guy like you know, Hardy or Jelly or these other guys that you know I have had the solo act for a little bit, Yeah, that would help you get there faster.
I think it's all about the song. I think the song's got to be great first and foremost, and then it's got to be about the timing and then and then they got to have a good team or I'm not really interested because I've been there and done that. And if you don't have a good team, or you don't have an artist where the strategy lines up timing wise, it can be difficult, you know. So, uh so those three things have to check off, check off the list, and then uh and then Yeah, to me, it's mainly
about the song. Though it's gotta be a it's gotta be a killer song, a banger, ye man. But Hardy's got a bunch of them. He's somebody i'd collaborate with. I mean, all those guys i'd work with, it's just got to be the right time, right.
So how do you say, how do you politely say no to somebody that you know?
I'm pretty direct at that point. Yeah, I'm just like, hey, for me right now, I hope you understand. But but but I'm being intentional about doing no collaborations. I've said no to a bunch of people, and unfortunately, like right now, timing wise is and this is something I can do, you know, yeah, done, most people understand. I mean, you know, there's been no hard feelings.
Yeah, I guess I get shot down all the time.
But yeah, I hear know all the time too, So trust me, I'm pitching songs left and right. If you ain'table here and know, then you ain't gonna make it in the music business. Right.
It's a good point. Yeah, dude, I do gotta say I'm excited to listen to your new album, especially like sitting with you and listening to you talk through all this stuff. Really appreciative of you're being.
Open about it all or you can tell you've went on kind of the journey with it all.
Yeah, just touching on a lot of like like the therapy words of talking through it, like we we've sat and we've sat with therapists and stuff like, not like me and him together. Maybe we should mayors canceling TIS too, But yeah, no, for real, I'm really excited to listen to your new album man, and thank you for coming on.
Of course, thanks for having me. It's been a long time coming.
Long time coming.
Excited to be here.
We'll have to get you on after TiO. Let's do it in months down the road. Let's check in.
Yep, how's that going, b K.
Yeah, yeah, we should do that eventually, when when the time is right, right, when time is right.
Oh, and may make another vlog working out. Remember when he did the workout push?
That's all right, bro, got your ask the kind of own it.
Sometimes I dropped past that field. I'm like, oh that field hurt me. That was fun though.
Sled pushes and pulls, man, are no fucking joke. Yeah, it was a good time after it.
Now, boys, I'm training. I'm getting ready, you said.
You told me, gettingup at like four thirty in the morning, working at.
It a new it's a new thing I'm doing just for uh, not forever, just for like three months. I'm like, I'm gonna set a goal. I'm gonna do this for three months, and uh, I'm about two and a half months in, so I'm feeling good.
Yeah, two and a half months and you're four weeks in, you're like half mon right there, you know you have four thirties no joke, that's no, that's a that's that's a big boy time.
It's not even today. I was like, and I can wake up and once the workouts going, I'm straight. But then after the workout it like hits me again. I'm like, oh, I could just go, oh I'm dead. Yeah, it's fun. And to be honest, like that's the time I had to pick to like be consistent because my schedule is so all over the place, kids waking up at six thirty and getting ready to you knowing, it's just there was not really a window that I could be consistent with.
So I'm like, you know what, We're just gonna do it.
Well, we work at we work out at the same place, and I have to I have to legit be there at six am for me to get with the things I have to get done because my kids were off to school seven fifteen, Like, we live twenty five minutes away from our school, right, and he cruises in there six thirty.
Minute. Yeah.
Just you'll know soon when your kid also is.
Hat out into your truck for like fifteen thirty extra minutes talking about I saw you're wagging here sitting out there while I was finishing my workout.
Because I was at home avoiding for a second. Man, but the one time I show, you know, sometimes I get home and Talon's already put getting the girls ready.
I'm like, I have to work in this car for another twenty minutes.
Yeah, yeah, I see that.
Yeah, it's different when you like you're not on your own schedule always right. That's just with the school thing too.
Yeah, man, it's the route to go because you want to be home in the morning and play that put on the Dad, Happen on the Husband. I had the partner Hat episodes like the only time to get it done.
That's why I was literally like just three months. Then I'll reassess. I'll reassess where my life sat because I'm aut to start tour, which is gonna be I can't get up at four thirty on tour because I can't go to bed at nine o'clock, like I can't at home, you know, I'm saying. So it'll be an adjustment, but we'll keep it rocking.
And then if you work out, choose to work out in the afternoon, the morning gets going, to day is going and you kind of like just push it off.
Bro, you don't.
If I don't do the first thing, then I'm probably not gonna do it.
The same with me, Bro, same way.
But I'll tell myself all day and time I lay my head on the pillow at night, I'm.
Gonna okay, nine pm, I'll make my way. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I put it goes down on the bike.
You'll get thirty minutes in real quick. I'm like, man, never have just play to tomorrow.
Yeah yeah, I tomorrow.
Tomorrow's gona be good.
I'll make up for today.
This is the hardest thing to do.
We appreciate you, man, Bro, thanks for having me.
Yeah, this is a whole lot of fun.
It's called strong, strong and working out here we go wrong.
April twelfth, twelfth, April twelfth, April twelfth, out April twelfth, Go get it everywhere, dude, Spotify, Apple, every tiny kisses dollar done talking I'm about to be in my fan hmm.