Taylor Lewan Is Finally BACK + Dan Lanning On Why He Didn't Take The Alabama Job

I mean I remember going to Men's warehouse to pick up a coach of socks.

You know, certainly wasn't what I wanted to do at the time, right, But if that, you know, gave me favor with that coach for an opportunity to you know, be his guy that he trusted, then you do whatever it is, stupid god and gave us.

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That was felt great.

I felt real good as I was going and I was like, that's weird. There's no stumbles. And as soon as I thought that, boom we got one and it was nice.

Do you like the papers?

Yeah? I like the paper.

You know my eyes? Yeah, And I struggled real bad with the eyes.

So that was a nice deal.

I feel that was very helpful to me, and I do I do appreciate that. A couple of things for you. One wasn't in the jungle. I was in Mexico City too.

It sounds better if you're not on you're in the jungle. I was in.

I was in the lower part near Guatemala. That's where I was, like Costa Rica kind of kind of. And it's also not New Mexico City. New Mexico is in the States. I was in actual Mexico City.

What I said, in New Mexico City.

Yeah, And that's okay, brother, because you're a Missouri cat and that's what you do.

It was on me a couple of weeks ago because I said, uh, was it? Memphis was in the north. I was like Memphis in like the northeast part of Tennessee.

Yeah, he said that that's the opposite side.

But there was a piece of me too that was also working out.

I kind of you did see it because.

Knoxville's east right, Knoxville, Memphis is west, and Memphis is southwest southwest right, and the Nationals in the middle north like the northern middle relative.

No, no, no, the relative.

Memphis and Knoxville technically, but National is also more north.

Would you call would you call Nashville Middle Tennessee. Yeah, okay, then that's that's what we need right there. You're like, well at them maps again, which you do not need to bring back up. Boys. I am so fired up to be back on this bus with you guys.

It's it's been chaotic for our brand.

Yeah, it's been. It's been a shit show. It's been bad for the brand.

It's been bad. It's been bad out there.

I know, I'm smiling.

I don't know about you've seen.

I'm assuming you've seen quite a bit, but it's been We've taken a lot of shots.

Yeah yeah, I mean I even tweeted last night, I feel like it's my first day of school. Can't wait to see the boys and every people are like oooh, you're a piece of shit. And I was like, damn, bro, the boys are still mad. I did apologize because.

I wanted to do a tweet Hey Delaney and I. We got a great guest on today, Taylor Lawan. But I was like, I don't want to, you know, I don't want to kick a guy while he's down.

It was interesting because like obviously there was the ship show, and when I got to Mexico, you know how, it was like I had like hardle any service. Anytime you and I tried to talk, I'd have to call you back four separate times in four separate locations just to just to get something done. And I get there and I'm not really thinking of it because my logic was, well, I've taken literally six months off the pod for football before, like this is probably nothing like that.

I was.

It was a it was an innocent thought process that ended up not well.

And along those lines as well, like again, when you do do those things, we've always pivoted. We've always like, hey, we'll figure it out. That was like the first thing I said to you. I was like, yeah, bro, that'd be sick, Like we'll figure it out. Yeah, don't worry about the spring tour. We'll figure it out. And then obviously hindsight's twenty twenty and we're kind of thinking through it a little bit more like, Okay, we could have went about that way. Yeah, a lot different.

And though and like, yeah, the brand itself could have gone about it a whole lot different. Me personally, like when I get to Mexico and I go to sleep, I'll wake up and I have like a text come through around ten am or something like that, and it's like it's from you saying, hey, you should probably say

It's you're about to make a move like a box.

Office yeah, which is like, no, it's not that. It's not a it's not a quin tearn Know movie or anything like that. If it was, I would break that NDIA and may tell all of you immediately. That is the coolest thing of all time. But this opportunity was something I've never done before, so I was like super focused on it. I told Sherman. I was like, hey, man,

And I put that out because we hadn't said anything. I know, I know, if I think about my individual I should have just been direct because I sent that. We were sending voice messages back and forth and I was like, hey, I kind of talked about I kind of said something on the bus or whatever. I didn't say too much or it'd be good if you like put out a video or something. Kind of just said it without being like.

Hey, you need to put it, you need to put out you just say.

Something before I say something.

When it was nighttime and nothing had happened, and I know we were back and forth on face, I was like, I got to put something out because we're about to we're about to cancel this live show.

And I I'm gonna just it's gonna be bad. It's not gonna be good.

And then everybody thought we were canceled the live show because I wasn't there. But right before I left, the live show was like, hey, we've sold only a couple of tickets.

PA, Well, so yeah, yeah, there were a few things in South Carolina, we had a low number, and then the place told us that, hey, there'll be a lot of people show up day of when we had to push back, not the pushback, but kind of like the disgruntleness from Dave on like, hey, like this is the Busting with the Boys Spring Tour, not Busting with the Boys Spring Tour, and was like, I get it, you guys have a backup plan and everything else, but when

It was kind of like that.

Whole combination of like, hey, load tickets. I don't know if Delaney's coming with us yet. I'm writing this thing solo. I'm trying to figure this thing out, you know. There Dave had good points about, you know, all this stuff

Yeah, sit in the back room, then do a show, and then go back to.

The back room type thing. Obviously, on the surface, it all looks bad. It looks you know, it looks bad. It looks bad. And I had somebody who told me they drove down from Canada and I was actually like fuck man, I felt so bad about it. But then I come to realized, like this dude's just a troll and he's just been somebody that's like been negative in the comments before. Yeah, because I'm like feeling bad, I'm like, god,

It was.

Yeah, it could have been handled so much better, like you, I think once we realized we fucked up as far as like telling people in advance, you did a great job of working everything. I really dropped the ball being with my focus somewhere else. Could have done a much better job of like speaking more on it being there before saying something like and taking accountability. It was a

This unnamed show, or fucking PFT made a joke about it.

Well, because while you're gone, it's like Travis backs out at the Olympics last week, like we're having all these things and it just boom boom domino.

After it just been a turbulent couple of months. Yeah, turbulent couple of months. So before we're like, I'm now, so I jump off social media and then I come back and peak and I keep I peek me on the curtain, but I don't see the whole context. The point I was like, yo, is this not have we not barstool like and over this yet? Like what I like, legit got tired about it for a second, barcel gotten.

Over, Like like when we get more like when I show up to minigolf and Dave's like, I'm out of Beer Olympics.

Yeah, oh yeah, and you call me on that, I'm like, all right, dude.

Whatever, Yeah, we got a we got a full core pressure. Yeah, Dave back in Beer Olympics. He's texted he said he's quadruple down that he's out.

So and the thing too is like we were wrong, Like we were wrong mostly I was wrong, like I handled it horribly. But when I'm going peek back there and I'm like, man, I can't believe this is like this has still got to be talked about. This much like we messed up. We're trying to do better. But it's like human beings are the only creatures in the entire world that'll beat themselves up after making a mistake. Dog shits in the house, You put your dog's nose in it, dog goes back to being a dog.

It's over.

Depends only how hard you hit him.

Yeah, no question, that is true. It depends. I don't know life you're living, but not me. Not me.

Human beings just constantly beat yourself up, beat yourself up. I think you and I do a good job when we do mess up. David Buster's being a good example. We have a lot of examples. But actually in the football world, when we mess up, you look at it, you navigate it, You're like, okay, where do we go wrong, and then you try to recorrect and course correct. But then it's really hard sometimes when people are like, but you did this, but you did this, but you did this.

One of those things like if we're in like we're getting coached and ball because we're obviously getting critiqued literally every day, whether it's talk to coach, trdcusted out, coach softly, whatever it is. It's not like when you do make a good play, your coach also follows up with, hey, but remember when you fuck this play up, don't do it again. Yeah, You're like, damn, I can't even enjoy like that. That was like in the world of the internet,

I know them.

I just time I saw like a Taylor bailed, I was like, there was a piece of me that kind of hit me.

And I was like, damn, dude, I didn't they all see some comments. I'm like, fuck, I know he's probably seeing these and it just blows.

It just sucks because you do like I did, Like, how many conversations do we have be like hey, I don't want to make sure I'm not.

Letting you down.

I'm a best friend. I want to make sure you're cool with this, and all these conversations over and over again, and then you see it and you're like, here come the insecurities. We're right down the barrel, and it's just kind of like, ah, fuck, dude.

Jack had a good point. Did we talk about on the episode? It wasn't more like a team meeting. We're you bring up the point of, like, you know, when we do pivots, like there's been times where whether it's from it it's from the knee, or something's gotta shake up training wise, I gotta go train here, or when you're hey, I'm gonna do the podcast, a game happens, Okay, let's not. We'll go solo dolo like all the times we kind of handle it.

Oh talking about when he was in football.

Right right, either of us doing anything.

I think as like a fan's perspective. When you were full time in the NFL playing same here. You have been ait of the doubt too, when you had six months to take off. That was what you had to do. Now that I don't know what you're playing with football, let's just say for hypothetically, hypothetically you're done. That means that this is now your number one priority. So the fans are not going to give you as much leash

Have I sent the last Hey, I think it's been a little bit of a back and forth. Oh okay, if there's been zero clarity, you're actually right.

I just know that there's some fans. I just think there's fans out there that are like yelling into their fucking speakers, like come on, like just say you're fucking sorry one time.

So and that's not me, No, Jack, Yeah, he was bringing up you were saying, do you want me to cano? Do you want me to do it? Hey? Hey, I apologize.

Hey, it's all good.

I'm faking. I'm fin thinking of the south Park episode where the dudes like bending down over the desk. He's like, go ahead, kiss.

It, apologize busing fans. I know I've spent the last fourteen minutes on here explaining the thought process of how everything went. I want you guys to know that never have I ever tried to slight any of you one way or another. And I have never intentionally tried to hurt any of you people by taking myself off of the bus or hurting this brand by going to do something completely different than I've ever done in my entire life.

I love all of you. I'm very sorry. Big hugs and tiny kisses.

That you're forgiven.

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The best dude.

Shane was solid.

Yeah, Shane was fun. Shane was a good time. Interesting friendship with Shane.

He lets us know basically textas Friday, No, it was Saturday, the day off, yep, Saturday, more Saturday, let's say twelve thirty and he's like.

Brosan's coming to the show. Tonight.

Yeah, for tomorrow six pm, or he actually said seven and ten, seven and ten pm. If you don't come, I probably won't go to Beer Olympics. Yeah, bro, I was like, I guess I'm going to the show.

We did go.

We went Sunday. We went to the six o'clock show and ended up being six. They said it was seven, but it was actually six after the barbecue, and it was fantastic.

It was a really gouge show.

A lot of new material, yeah, that he's working through right now, and it is.

It's funny.

It's interesting to see too because even after he's like, I got like, what the first twenty minutes are solidified. I feel good about the first twenty minutes. Everything else is storytelling and trying to work stuff out. Yeah, And it was interesting to see that, like after hearing him say that and then reflecting back on the show like the like him just and literally in front of a sold out stadium working through jokes Ryman, Yeah, yeah, stadium, the Ryman a historical church.

Yeah, absolutely, I mean that's a going out there and you see a couple levels like you were, like you're saying, you reflect back and think of the times he is kind of working through it because he does such a great job playing with the crowd. Yeah, like the great Um, you don't like that one, Okay, you guys, this was okay, but that wasn't.

Yeah, yeah he did. He didn't like that one. Then you're gonna think this next one was just all hate speech.

Yeah, so but it was. It was really good. The boy was on. He's on, man, he's he's number one in the world right now. I had to sit on his text on Yian's coming to the show. If not, I'm out of Beer Olympics because my own projectile ability of thinking of the recent l's we've been taking. If we lost Shane, they would be not only that, but just the way like that. We're bros, and he's playing with my heart and he doesn't understand everything that's kind

Why?

I'm like, bro, there's there's so much money going into this thing, and everybody, everybody we want to take everybody. We want to do it right. And are people everybody that's working on it behind the scenes, they're trying to get head counts and know who's going to be in or out. And uh, he was talking, I don't wanna, I don't wanna. I don't want to spoilers.

The last thing we're gonna do is put out any expectations.

Yeah, or put out expectations. Just put the pressure on everybody else because the moment that you have backed out, I'm throwing out lines. We're texting back and forth like so and so might come. I see literally Quentin Nelson up under the Travis Kelsey things, saying next man up mentality with the eyes. So I immediately takes Quinton like, hey,

It's going to be.

I'm telling you, this thing is going to be fucking awesome.

Uh.

But going back to the Shane thing, I had to sit on the I'm like, all right, how how will just take it? Take a moment? How are you gonna respond to this? How are you going to take a breath? He's putting this expectator? What are we finding out from our bro that he is in Nashville currently without you know, ahead of time part of me thanks, he's trying to doesn't want to do too many podcasts, probably want to come on the bus, which is fair. Yeah, but it

Yes bro.

Yes, that's awesome.

Yeah, he was just chilling sitting in the I didn't even know who it was, and he was.

He take me a minute too, and and Shane was like, you know, it's Gary Clark, right, like one of the greatest musician in the world, guitar player. And then by the time I left, I was like, hey, bro, it's so nice to meet you. I know my dad would be so hype in my day. He what do you call it? He dabbles a little bit in the play guitar, and he loves guitar. What do you call it?

What's that thing that verslaying?

He slaps the bass, he slaps the guitar.

He plays the guitar, He rips the guitar.

He rips the guitar.

I'm not gonna that's no cap, bro, I'm telling you my still kaking rips the guitar. Your dad does, yes, really, matter of fact, next time he comes out, we need to make him do it. Yeah, I will buy a guitar and make sure his hands.

There's nothing you can do.

Now, I'll have it sitting in front of a case of beer where he's got a he has to touch the guitar just to get to the beer.

Nice chair, speaker that's already plugged in, tuned up guitar will have like earner, somebody make sure it's tuned up, and a thirty rack of bush lights sitting there like nowhere to go down, and.

A whole bunch of chill yes, and a spittoon yes.

And he has to play. He has to play, has to play. I need you guys to hear him.

Yeah, but that that Clark Gary Garry Clark, Clarkark dude. So I didn't know really any about that at all. And then you know, we found out. And in the car ride home, JP, me, JP and Michael Chandler were ripping on the way back to my spot and we were playing it that dude can fucking shred and he was just kind of chilling, like didn't care more, just asked questions about Barslow. It's like, so was Barstol everywhere?

I was like, well, yeah, it's on the internet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's like, because we kept talking about Shane and brought up Survivor and he we were talking through a couple of other things, like when he had me shotgun high noons on the on the stream with DraftKings, and since we're sitting there talking about Barstool stuff, Gary was like, so is Barstool just everywhere? And Taylor Taylor looks. Evan's like, it's on the internet. Yeah, it's everywhere. He's like no, no, no, He's like, I mean, is there a place that everybody goes?

And what you got there?

I got a couple of I got a couple of espressos in right.

Now, I have a Shane story.

Yeah, because you went on Saturday.

Yeah.

So I messaged him on Instagram on Saturday with no intention of getting tickets, and I was just like, good luck your shows this weekend, not even think he's gonna see the message or respond. He responds like five minutes he's like, come through tonight if you want. I had four friends in town. I was like, I really appreciate that. But I was like, I have a bunch of friends in like day of show. I don't want to be the guy asking for five tickets, so not a big deal.

Oh damn, I'm sorry, bro, and it hurts. I thought you went because when I took a minute to response to shitting calls, He's like, hey, I know you guys are coming, and it was kind of like giving me a run around. He's like, your boy Jack's coming to night. And then I did a little like, hey, make sure you tell him not to post a lot, and he's like, oh, that's what you guys got him for, blah blah blah.

So we were joking, but I thought you went that night because I not.

I mean, Mitch, I know we didn't necessarily, I'm thinking in my head Spring tour interviews.

You have to get them done.

It's a fair statement.

You got my family when did they leave?

Oh yeah, I mean reason too, saying Jack about have known you didn't go.

I'm not like, if anything, I felt really bad for my friends.

In town because you got him hyped up.

Well, there was a moment in time where I was like, it's Shane gillis like sold out. I saw tickets going for twelve hundred dollars at the rhyming on Saturday, So I was like, So, I was like the fact that I'm even like asking for six tickets it feels a little scummy. And I know he doesn't feel that way. It was nice enough for him to respond at all. But like at some point when he was like, dude, what's your email? I was like, guys, we're fucking in

I was like, bro, no doubt because you got everybody.

Yeah, and they were like like the girls were like we don't give a ship, like we don't know Shane really and I was like this everything. Oh, it was like four girls and two guys.

I was like, man, they probably went.

This situation in Oregon. So yeah, but it's I'm glad I heard all the shows went well. I had a bunch of friends who actually bought tickets and said that did was THEO there on Sunday night opening? Was that just Saturday?

I think.

Stories you did like a.

Fifteen minute opener for the both sets on Saturday.

Oh really?

Yeah, but that's all I really know about.

It, dude. I was gonna say during your story, I was literally thinking to myself because I thought that at the end of story you were going to get the tickets and go that is the best possible way you could ask somebody for tickets. Sure, Hey, man, I got five people with me. Don't worry about it. Just want to let you know, hope you crush it.

Yeah, that's what that is.

You give them the number, Yeah, you give it, You give them everything, and then you just let them kind of do the thing without saying can I have tickets?

I know now, I'm like, there's still like an unread message between me and Shane that at some point down the road he will probably see and be like probably like not acknowledge it, and I don't want it to be like him. Think I'm upset about it.

Oh, you gotta check him.

As soon as you see him. You got as soon as you see him, you got to say something.

No, I'm just four shows that the rhyme and is a big deal. So I think that's really.

Cool, big time dude.

I had a situation when I was in Mexico a bunch of the offensive linement from Michigan.

They hit me up.

Ziner hit me up and he's like, Yo, Shane Gillis, he's gonna be in sagging on Michigan. We gotta go.

Can we go? Can you talk to him? Give it to you?

Like just blatantly asking me. And it's the same thing like any of our boys that does something that where you have to purchase tickets to go see them. I always get uncomfortable about being like, hey, these people want to see you, do you mind letting them in? And so I kind of put it off for a minute, but shout out Ziner. Dude. He was shameless about it. He just kept asking and asking, and I was like, I'll ask him. So I text Shane. He's like, no problem,

And they're like yeah.

I was like, then he's not going to answer a text.

Like what are you talking about? Like, but just young cates later, dude, twenty minutes later, I get a FaceTime from Shane. He's with all the boys. Oh he just let's go.

It's the pan. He's like, got the big boys with me, got the big guy.

You know he was in heaven. Yeah.

They apparently they cut it up that night too. So that was a big, a big win for my boys in Michigan, my national champion.

Oh so.

I had Levis text and ask like, Hey, could you connect me with Shane maybe going to one of his shows and I was either on the move or something, but I felt kind of like, you.

Know, no, yeah, not not nobody.

It made me. I didn't feel like at that moment, I wasn't like I didn't want to again hit up Shane like hey, do you mind if I give your number, you know, to Will and stuff like that. I don't think he would have cared. I think so too, yeah, just because yeah, he's football guy. But for whatever reason, I was on the move, so I was kind of like fleeting in my brain and I forgot about it. And then a couple of days later, like Will comes

But even like I I like it when one of my boys is like, hey, so and so is trying to get ahold of you?

Can I give them your number.

Yeah, And I'm like, yeah, I appreciate it. It's it's always going to be yes, for sure, it's always going to be yes. But just that little extra mile for me is nice.

And it's like it's just a little.

Something, right, But you kind of like you just don't want to give out people's.

Numb and too if you're not like, say, you haven't texted with him in a while, you know what I mean? And yeah, one text is like you're asking for some right. The only person I honestly I don't really think a whole a second effort about it is jelly Roll, because I'm like, yo, jelly Roll, jelly Roll, take care of anybody and everybody. Yes, I'm not saying the other guys wouldn't, but I just know if Jelly Roll, if he happens to see your message, because he doesn't check his phone very often.

He has fourteen hundred text messages unread on his one bro.

I had a couple of my boys from back home that I was in high school with homies and they're like, Hey, we're going to the Jelly Roll concert in Saint Louis. You think you could get us a couple of tickets, and I text Jelly like, hey, could you get these guys. Whether their nosebleeds really doesn't matter if you just get them just to go see one of those things. I ain't want to.

I don't want to.

It's like you don't want to take a mile when you feel like your boy's kind of giving you something.

Yeah, saying hey if.

You if anybody ever wants to come, like, let me know, I'll take care of them. And I get a photo the boys are backstage with them fucking getting high. You gave them Jelly, You gave m Jelly World's number. No, no, no. I end up going back and forth with Jelly Joe. It's like, oh yeah, let me know their names. I'll get him fully taken care of them. I think I connected him with one of his people. But then I get a photo and they're like they're hitting a blunt with them in the Dude, that is so that is

A two game preseason is in the books and it's fun.

No, you're dead, you read the right things.

We're good laughing.

I just I just thought of something funny.

Sorry, go ahead, and I'm literally only laughing two game.

It's the eighty two eighty two game preseason.

Is man?

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I said a two. I don't know if you did, because, uh, Jack if it's almost like when you see somebody yawning, you just hit a yawn.

Yeah, so I just joined it. I had to get a part of that, but yeah, I did. Good weekend also anniversary weekend, we had that little barbecue before for Michael Chandler celebrating him getting his big fight with Connor McGregor.

I'm sure you guys talked about that already. Yeah, yeah, I think so, Yeah, because yeah, we talked about it the week after the announcement. Obviously we're ready for that boy though. Yeah, get in that octagon with Connor McGregor.

Well, I have to do the same thing we did for two ninety nine. What was that go interview the boys talk.

To Mike sit down. Could you imagine that would be nuts getting an interview Chandler?

Yeah, that would be crazy, dude.

Yeah.

Will was telling me about it a little bit. Oregon fun fact about organ that was a school that I legitimately wanted to go to like I was going. I wanted to go to Orgon and commit to Orgon because that was like the height of their Nike uniforms. And when I got offered by them, I was like, done, We're going to Oregon, boys, that's what we're doing.

So you got you had organ.

I had Orgon. Yeah. So my dad had this thing.

He's like, hey, I want to go to all the uh, I'm gonna do the official visits with you, blah blah blah. Like he was kind of like his way being like we're going to work this out together type thing. But every time Oregon came up about going to see them, there was always some sort.

Of travel conflicts with him. Could never make it.

And then I went to Minnesota, and I almost committed to Minnesota because you know me, I'm a honeymoon faced type of guy. I'll just jump in quick.

Yeah.

I was like, I'm gonna be a Gopher. I wasn't a Gopher. And then I went to Michigan and I was like yeah, because that's when the whole Jake Long thing was going down and all that. Well, I mean yeah, so I never took a visit to Oregon. But I bet the flashy lights would have gotten bro.

I mean, it's they got some nice facilities.

Can you rank your top five spots that we've ever been to?

I can.

If we have a list of where we've been, can you.

Be better than uh, who's got better facilities? Legit, jaz let me ask somebody else.

Really, here's here's why the way Orgon looks now organ I would says number two, but the way Oregon looks at this current moment. They've had those facilities since like what twenty thirteen.

Yeah, they said the new ones that they're starting, like the concept plans of it will be done in like four or five years. So when that happens, that's going to be.

Like an Iron Man movie.

Literally they have iron facilities. Like you could just tell that they're so far ahead, like tech wise and everything else. And with Nike they got so many cool things. Yeah, they have so many in the The the look of it, oh yeah, I think so.

Did you already have.

The look of it is just like it's slick, bro. It's so clean, yeah, like modern look, but like an athletic modern look.

I know it sounds fucking and athletic models.

It makes sense though, you like walk outside and every buildings like black, and they got like this fountain in the middle to where when all the players walk through and they talk about how the game day experience, like there'll be a bunch of fans out there grilling out and everything else.

But it's just it's sick.

And they obviously got all the gear, all the sports science stuff that you love, like the Nord boards, but they got force plate stuff for absolutely everything. They have a specific sport performance like science area. It's inside the

It's like a whole section of the building that's just like the Marcus Mariota Hall. It's just like you look up in the ceiling. When you look at it from your eyes, you don't see anything and if you look through it through your camera, it's like his face what. Yes, that hard to describe. So you have a video that we can put an overlay, probably on my phone I can show you later. But yeah, it's just like you can tell he's their golden boy. I think these are

So I would say what sucks is we didn't get to see all of Texas.

And the whole water bottle gate.

Yeah, water bottle game was tough. That's the only place we've been to where we weren't able to get a bottle of water.

Straight shooters there in Austin. Yeah, straight shooters.

Yeah, because I told but even who was shown us around, I was like, hey, Nate, I'd get a bottle of water. He said, yeah, go ahead, and I looked at the cameras like he passed. It's true.

Yeah, it's become a benchmark, a small box to check, but a box nonetheless.

Yeah, yeah, I mean you want everybody and again Texas they took they took care of us when we were out there to certain point. But you you want to see like people that are welcoming and just insane host to us. You remember that, You remember like how they made you and the boys feel, not only us, but how they how they take care of the guys behind us.

And Texas was they were like inviting, they were they were showing us stuff, but they just didn't show us everything like some places like Nebraska, Michigan. I don't know how Tennessee. I actually been to Tennessee.

I mean they just they just finished those new ones that we they were talking about with like the whole car Wash, and a lot of these programs are adapting we put the pads on.

But I'm talking about hospitality.

Hospitality.

Yeah, Tennessee's up there. I mean I feel like Nebraska, Michigan, South Carolina. But on the side, it's like we're like they're South Carolina. We're like their sons. Like you and Michigan meet and Nebraska they are just saying like they'll they'll let you do that.

Guys, you're gonna go crazier with that comment. Oh where they're God, no, what's this man about?

The say?

Oh no, oh yeah, yeah you got it. You got those out the window. Georgia. I thought they were really hospitable too, and I was at awesome. Yeah, me and the guys started going back at it a couple of times. You twenty twelve, right, played Georgia had to pick against them pick six.

Yeah, they call them the New Year's Eve six.

Yeah, that's why they got so changed it. Yeah, that's changed at all.

But even they were great too. Florida State was really accommodating.

How about their fog.

It was awesome.

As user a little bit dated. They're yeating new stuff, but it almost gives like, I don't know, it's like it works even though it's kind of dated. You almost like it's.

One of those things where you just you know that Florida State they are a squad now, but growing up, like you just the seminole, the arrow on the helmet. You just have this idea of Florida State, and even though it's a little dated, it goes.

It makes sense, similar to like a Notre Dame.

I'm not saying they're dated or it's similar to Notre Dame, but it's like Notre Dame has like it's like, yo, you know you're at Notre Dame. I feel like in Florida State, it was like that kind of feeling as well, but not like the new tech all the new facilities stuff. They don't have all they don't have all those bells and whistles yet. The sick locker room, real cool locker.

Room, Yeah, Florida State's got that feels like a smaller, like grittier vine.

Yes, smaller weight room.

Like you walk in, you immediately smell all the rubber, all the plates, everything like that, like you do most locker or like you do most weight rooms. But it's like a smaller one. I feel like it might be football only.

They had the volleyball girls saying corrected on that, but.

I would say, I mean, I think you still got I think you still got us at the top.

Would you say Oregon's better than Michigan, I don't think.

Facility wise, Yeah, I would say Michigan's locker room is better.

Really because they're locker the lit room we saw because they're building the new one at Oregon.

Yeah, Michigan's locker room was like the one thing that we were kind of like, eh, because that was the their locker rooms busin there.

Since Yeah, I was there, I thought that they just redid that locker room.

No.

At Michigan.

LSU was the one that was like, LSU is sick.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that's my mistake. The weight room in Michigan is say not locker room.

The weight room is room.

Michigan to me is better than Organs. Also, they didn't I think a lot because remember we I don't know if we want to talk about it or like we can cut this. But they didn't want us to film in the like the locker room.

Oh but they only didn't want us to film because they were at practice. So you know, players are being the boys were being boys or stuff stuff everywhere.

Still check the hospitality, Bob.

Yeah, I would have loved to have done in just really preface like hey this is the like, this is this is what the law. These are what locker rooms look like. Boys are practice. You got shoes by lockers like the boys were at practice. So they were like, hey, it's dirty. We don't want you guys to which I totally get. But I would say, if you push aside in Nebraska, Michigan, I would say LSU then Organ Yeah.

I really liked l s U.

L s U was like you put LSU over Oregon.

They're man they're different.

If we could see the track facility, I think it would have been complete.

Yea, the organ yeah, the Organ.

But the people at Oregon were just top to bottom from facilities to just like restaurant waitresses.

To the rental car gal just so the airport.

Unbelievably nice, like what do we do to deserve this? And it's just clean everywhere.

Organ Yeah, because they're all high, Yeah, free spirit, I think all. I think all drugs are decriminalized there importantly, you think.

Yeah, I mean there's some because I would see comments of everything else where. I'm assuming people are alluding to that.

I think in Portland criminalize so in like there, so we're in you.

Okay, okay, okay, yeah, beautiful drive beautiful because that was the hard part. You fly to Portland, you got to drive two hours ago down to Eugene. So I'm curious, like, I'm sure they just get they get kids in, They'll just fly into Eugene, I'm sure.

And we had a four hour layover in sol Lake City.

That was the worst part about Organ is we Yeah, we had a four hour layover. We had to go right back after the interviews, so that way we didn't get back at like six thirty at night on Friday, because we're done with the interviews on what.

Like three I think it earlier than that.

Yeah, like three o'clock on Thursday, right on, yeah, Thursday to Denver, and then flew back from the morning, try to make a flight at six thirty. He made a flight at six thirty out of Portland go to Denvers. Took a little four hour nap at the hotel airport. We probably what yeah, it was we slept four hours because we land, we had a little bit of a delay, and we got in at like eleven thirty.

Yeah, it was at eleven forty five by the time I was getting in my room. And then we had to get up at three forty five.

Yeah, something like that, and then fly from Denver to Nashville. I mean, it's a trek, but three awesome conversations, three awesome interviews Test Johnson.

Spring to interviews you've ever had?

Yeah, dude, this this, I mean both of them. Really. Dylan Gabriel starts like asking me questions and we just have like a forty five minute long conversation like I'm kind of running through my stuff with him, talking about all the transfer portal because he's transferred around a lot

Bo Nix's dad.

He's the head football coach at their high school in Alabama, like at six a school. Like he talks about bow Knicks basically being like a manning like very professional from being a high schooler, like very straight edged about your business, you know, all ball and so Tez like being implemented

Stay up late and watch football with him.

Yeah, And so when he watched Oregon, he thought, uhd Anthony Thomas was his favorite player and was a massive Organ fan. And when bo Nicks committed to Auburn, Auburn Organ played, the family didn't let uh Tez go because he wanted to wear orgon gear because he said, he just wore his Oregon hoodie. He said, probably every day. Probably didn't watch it in middle school and everything else. I loved Oregon. So he goes he had he's he's a small receiver. He was like a buck thirty five

I'm committed.

Literally, I'm committed to Organ. Bo Nix's was the current quarterback. So it's like full circle because Bo transferred from Auburn to Organ for his last year or two or for his last couple of years. And then Bo and Tesz are playing together no Way, and he sets the single season receptions record as a receiver last year at Tess his first year at Organ at his favorite school, and

Because I'm busting his balls.

I was like, hey, Oregon washing it man, like I was riding with you guys. I have money on that game. He's like oh, He's like I'm sorry. He's like, but bro, you gotta stop making nebrask your lock of the week. Like he knew, and it fired me up.

That's awesome.

Yeah, it was fun.

Sounds like an amazing deal.

We're trying to go back.

And then yeah, Broro about Ohio stated Oregon bro.

And I don't know if that would be so Kelly Chip. Kelly's at Ohio State now, so that games going to be.

Going to be so massive game, Yeah, tell Yeah, that was a weird thing because he was the head coach at U C l A and then he left U c l A to become the head coach or the o C.

Yeah, he made a downgrade move.

That's right, that's right, that's right.

My fault, my fault. Yeah.

But then there was a reports that came out that he was on his way out anyway, like him the adding along or whatever. He didn't have the players anymore, so he just did before they could get him.

Dip. And then you go to a spot like Ohio State that's probably going too prolonged, like get you back to where wherever he wants to go, whether it's the NFL.

Yeah, you go, you go eleven and one every year like you're gonna.

Get some jobs.

Yeah yeah. Kind and coach Lanning was talking about what was your biggest move? You feel like I was like, I know you. I've listened to your pause before and you recall like there's too many. I was like, but what was a move that like happened for you guys will obviously here in this episode, but he talks about like going and taking downgrading, making good money and then like taking a shot to go be a g a Bama, thinking like this will be my this will help get me to those next bigger jobs. Yeah.

But they were awesome, Bro, Yeah, they were awesome.

He I really want to go see that Oregona HO State game.

The way week is that?

Is it during sp October? Strong chance? I think it is over twelve week Week two?

Is that week two or three? That's like.

October twelfth?

No in October?

Oh yeah, I think it'll be the second week. I can look at the calendar that happen.

Oh yes, we gotta make sure aligne, sponsor wise and everything else that we don't have, not that we don't have, but if whoever wants us to be in like sec country. Yeah.

But I thought on Saturday in October.

I thought our conversations with a fall tour was gonna be like a fluid, like we're gonna go to fix spots. However, we're gonna go to like game of the week type things. We're gonna pick and choose the games we go too.

For sure. That's why. That's why I said it, like we got to make sure. We gotta make sure that because that's the whole thing with both Jangles is we had to be in a lot of sec country stuff.

Look up who Michigan plays October twelfth, because I know we were not going to Michigan, Texas, because Nebraska, which is going to be a fun time.

Ay, Tim bro I trust me. I want to go to I do want to go to Texas. Michigan too, but Colorado at Nebraska it's a big game. Yeah, perfect, Washington, I have zero schedule conflict. Then hang on, hang on, we're at it. It's Washington. Oh, it's in seat, it's in Washington.

Oregon plays Michigan though in in arbor.

But we want to like no, well, yeah, yeah, going to Oregon.

What's a Let's just say that going to Michigan during that game would be hype.

I know, go up USC they play USC September twenty first, Thats where we're gonna go to Michigan.

Right there. That's the game we're gonna go to.

So we'll go to Texas. Texas week will be Nebraska Colorado, and then two weeks later will be a USC Michigan. You know, what I'm really anxious to see is we know that like Michigan keeps a little more close to the vest. They obviously opened it, opened it up a lot because I went there and stuff, but for the most part, like they're not necessarily Nebraska as far as like the hospitality, because the Brassa is just like, dude, this is your playground. And Michigan does keep a little

Right like, hopefully he has like the fool of like the headman. Yeah he will, he will, absolutely.

He's six and he's six and oh as a head coach. Yeah, he's undefeated as a head coach. Pennsdale Hot State.

Yeah yeah, I mean last year you guys went undefeated.

He was a head coach for six of those I think four of those actually, but yeah, dude, that is Ah, that's.

A bit of a deal.

What else is a bit of a deal? Is is the question that is going around the NFL right now. Is Kirk Cousins a bad person? That's that's that's not saying that I'm hearing that.

That Kirk Cousins is a bad person or that allowed tampering.

Kirk Cousins didn't follow the book, Kirk.

Oh, he might have had a little slip up in that presser. I would love to see because I kind of can't remember it, but it sounds like he slipped up saying talking about his relationship with the maybe the training staff before he got there, And so they're using that little sentence or two like hey, this, this is this is kind of tampering.

Betternet.

Let's go dude. They do take that shit serious because you get penalized in the draft. It was like when you guys were making your run and went to the AFC Championship. Our was with the Raiders that year and John Robinson was like, make sure you're not marketing anything about you know, it's like a bust and Titans collap because we don't want any potential tampering with with me, but just like to show how serious every organization takes, like to the detail. No, don't do this because we can't.

The good news for Kirk Cousins though, dude.

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I'll tell you back in the day when I was going to sport clips as a kid, as a young buck, I would always have that like real tight on the sides, then real short and then that small little that little ramp.

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You put the little thing on and they pulled the few out. Yeah, these a little stick, pull your hair out, dallasted with that blue paste. Wake up the next day a new man, low key thinking you're murdering the game.

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Grow it'd be like this long, but just like slowly come down.

Here and still brown, still like brown up underneath.

Yeah, I looked, dude.

Spiddle school you guys. You guys went to that. I know we talked about before. You never went through a long hair phase, Mitch.

No, I've only ever had a buzz cut growing up.

I mean I think about Mitch trying to grow his hair out, his head so big, like it'd be like three years before he even got to my leg.

He looked like et when they put the wig on him.

Hey, you know what I'm saying, Jack, just.

The wide head.

Yeah, bro, man, dude, you see you rock that beard now.

So it's November, I'm thinking of actually shaving it.

Go ahead, dude, you want but you liked it?

No, I do. I definitely like it for sure. Yeah, I just maybe maybe maybe.

I told this man, I said, the minute you grow a beer, you're gonna be like, man, you know.

I might just keep this be a beard guy. Yeah, just give it a trim.

No, I do trim it. I do trimming. I just maybe just kind of hit the reset button real quick, kind of go back to neutral for a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, I can let her go back out. Sometimes it's nice to have a little bit of a change.

Even with the summer coming and stuff too. Like, I got to make sure the face gets an even tan exactly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

When I first got back to Nash, it was like gonna be I think like forty eight hours before I saw Will, and I was so excited. I just faced time him in bed one night, and H Taylor took a nice moment to let him know how great his beard was. It's phenomenal beard.

Yeah, I know, which. I don't think it's that great.

Really, Yeah, I think you have a f I think you have a great beard. I think it looks it's a really good look for you.

I appreciate it. I was telling you too. I kind of like when I take it down to more of like a stubble, like a little scruff, a little scruff.

Yeah, I think you got enough density on the cheeks that to kind of keep it where it's at, Like clean it up and clean up that neck a little bit.

You'd be solid. Yeah, handsome boys.

An old photo of you Will with a beard, and I had the same feeling I was. It was long, bro, and I was like, damn, yeah bro, But you said get it back.

Yeah.

I thought it looked.

Oh no, no.

No, I swear the photo. I looked you must have just gotten a trim because it Will looked very even and I don't know.

Pull up a what's the video you did the tailor one top one hundred with Will's talking that's the that's the beard.

That's the one I think he's talking about. Go to uh, go to YouTube. I don't think so either, because it grows now because you he grows more down.

Had a Viking? No, that thing nice, that's that's newer Will beard. No, it's nuts old teeth, isn't it.

That's my fault.

You look like you look like you're supposed to be in Twilight right there?

Can't you see the old teeth down there? Down going down? Go up the top right, that's you. I thought that was Lane Johnson.

Oh bro, Yeah you had that is crazy. You had that Amish country beard too.

That is wild. There there's the Hey, Mitch, make sure to get that photo that we're just looking at and puking over. That is nuts. Man. Yeah, teeth, I mean the boys said, you know what, I can't say enough about the teeth investment. Yeah, it's a big deal.

Can't say enough.

Some got last night at Shange show was talking about my dentist. He said, what are you for your dentist? I was like, oh, he's in Brentwood somewhere else. These are fake by the way I've been, there's like a year ago.

These are not real. You need to just put some on, like some whitening paste of Walmart or something like that. You know what I do. I get this with this whitening paste, whitening toothpaste, them laser mouthpieces that they're they're promoting now on Instagram.

Yeah, dude, I did the uh what was the little things back in the day where they had like they were like pieces of paper whitening strips. I did that. It hurt my teeth, yeah, bro, bro, like just like shock shock waves, So your teeth hurts so bad it.

Like really up your enamel. Yeah for your teeth.

Yeah, I messed them up.

I did like a whitening thing like ad a dentist one time where they like put the light on it. That ship hurt too. Maybe I do have soft teeth, soft team and soft teeth.

You know, a good app This could easily be my shot out no free shout out from can I got a couple? Yeah, let's do shout out no free shot out because I can, I can.

I can rip a couple, rip one because I got one. I don't want you to take mine.

Well, I was gonna shout this one out, but since we're getting into the segment, I do have a couple like one that's you'll like him. You'll like him.

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That's a bad advertiser for shunning nut cheerios.

But you'll just scan the bar code and it tells you how quality of a product it is, like what you know, whether it's like, you know, organic or whatever, how much how much added? Is how many chemicals like, it'll tell you why it's bad and all that stuff. It's sick and you know, put me on it. Bill Compton, this man is full of surprises. On this show.

Bro's the guitar talks about health.

Yeah, well he was showing me.

He was. We were talking about some products and he's like, yeah, I was checking on my uh my Yuka app and it was telling me how bad it was. It might have been like a deodorant or something like that. He was like, it was showing me how bad like an old spice was. He was like rated very low.

My roommate got really big in the Yuca and he almost lost part of himself.

Really, Oh no, you can get.

Literally be in the grocery for an hour and a half just scanning products, and he's like, all this stuff I've been taking for years is actually horrible for me.

Bro.

He's just like, but.

I wasn't target with Rue, and I probably spent a good amount of time just skinning products while she's.

Throwing yellow or red icon if it's like good or bad.

Yeah, yeah, it's cool, it's a it's a very I was so surprised that that Billy.

C was showing me this app that's outstanding.

But that's that's my first one. What my actual shot out, no free shoutout for this week is going to be when your wife goes out of town. Oh, will you get the serenity of rock and solo knowing that you can catch up on your shows. You can. The wife will be away long enough to where you're gonna miss them very badly by the time they get back, and.

You just get to you just get to go back to some of your old ways.

Now I'm gonna be riding solo with Rue, so I'm gonna be on solo dad duty, which I'll have its challenges, but unexciting challenge.

Yeah, and you get a chance to level up a little bit too at the relationship.

Yeah, get in the rhythm with rue.

Yeah yeah, yeah, that's good, Just because the other day I was thinking about it. Charlie went out to go shopping and I put Root down for a nap, and your boy had a very productive saturday. Got a run in, got some song in, clean the kitchen, did a load of laundry, and then I'm sitting there like just I felt good on the couch, like, oh man, I'm really your boy was fucking productive this afternoon, and saw I'm like looking forward to those moments. I'm gonna miss you.

Oh yeah that's down.

Yeah, that's gonna be great, though it's gonna be so sick for them.

I feel like your first three days are gonna be the tough, and then you're gonna find a nice groove between four and seven.

Yeah.

Yeah, definitely the first day, just because we'll be getting back from our Alabama trip and we're doing the draft coverage in Chicago, so then flying back early on Friday. She takes off Friday morning, so I'll kind of be you like, have that face sleep. Yeah, I just seed that first night to get some sleep. But other than that, like it'll be we'll have a good time. But that's

Can I add a layer to that for you too? That makes it even better? Yeah, your wife is not going on a business trip for eight days. She's not doing something she doesn't want to do for eight days. She's having total and complete fun for eight days, to the point where you don't have to worry about all

The scoreboard will be in my favorite for sure.

Time she'll have to make a halftime come back in a hurry.

In a hurry. Yeah that is. She's like, babe, you leave every week. I'm like, sweetheart, your boy rush is to get back and rushes.

We take the earliest flight time just to get back to y'all. We will take our s and it's for business.

Like I know, we have fun. I can't help we have a fun job.

Did you have fun in Paris, France?

Did you exactly on an eight day trip with the homies?

Oh yeah, that's tough. Don't worry, you'll get You'll get back calculated with the hours and I think it'll be fine. Yeah, but go ahead and put rude down right now.

Relax.

Yeah, yeah, the serenity does that last a couple extra and then you.

Just get to be a guy for a little bit, like you know, leaves some dishes out, you know, for a little extra.

Day or smile about it too as you walk away.

Yeah, order order some takeout and kind of leave it there on the table, knowing that you're going to put in work right before they come back, just for it to be spotless.

Sweetheart, I kept up.

Under the rug. Under the rug.

Yeah, see how spotless this is.

It stayed like this.

It's crazy to that happened when we're both here.

Yeah, oh, bro, I fucking I have a bad habit of leaving the espresso in the machine and instead of cleaning it out, and it's in the pantry, and she moved it out of the pantry. She was like, I'm putting this out here to be seen so that way, you know. She's like, you can't handle it in the pantry anymore. That's what she said. She goes, you can't handle this, and I got tired. I was like, I'll never I'm never making one again. I'm never making a

She had to put her to her defense.

She had to put her foot down. She did. She did because I don't know what the material is, but it was i'll try to get stains. I was like, babe, it's not gonna stain. Like I'll trust me. I'll get it out and I couldn't fuck get it out.

She's like, don't worry. When we're out here, this will be.

This is right.

You can't handle it in the pantry.

I was like, just a dust up, a little tiff in Paris, charl Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, have fun in Paris.

Shadow no for shadow, all right, you did too? All do two as well? Uh. Last night, going to Shane's concert, we get in the car. Will realizes he kept the key, so Charles can't leave my house to go to her house. Day oh yeah, So we cruised back to my house. We're already running late. We cruised back to my house and JP's not a gas so we get in my wife's vehicle and we take that car. And because I'm driving and this is an older vehicle so I don't have like a little monitor tell me how to get there.

And he put that if they were on us in the back, like, come on, I know you guys are singing too, but let's get some energy.

Yeah yeah, yeah, Well there was a minute where we yeah yeah, I was like that it sounded like hilar Delilah, but it was actually as a Swaco song, which I really I think is fire and I'm kind of I know the song, so I'm singing it. Will's legit looking out the window feeling something like like my fad was in a music video. For a second, I look at the river mirror and JP's kind of like, what the fuck is this? And I was like, hey, well we should change we should change it.

So he puts that. He puts that song on and it hit. It was, uh, is it called I'm Good the Blue Dad kind of remix. Yeah, yeah, I'm good best fucking not in my life. But he put that on out.

Yeah, it's a jam.

He put the song on his eye, I got a new one for you guys and hit that. I was like, this is blue like and then all of a sudden I.

Find out was like I'm struggling boys, and I was started getting nervous.

Yeah, and it worked out. So my shout in a free shot is taking the risk of energy when energy is needed more than ever. Yeah, that is that's my shot show.

I mean, it could have been worse.

But I reached in my pocket to grab my phone to search for the song or just search for a song or something like that, and I feel Charles.

Keys and Keys again.

I was well, not that remember, because you were like you were saying something like, all, this would be good, This would be better than if we would have made it all the way there, then she wouldn't have had it in the first place. And I was like, you don't understand. If we would have made it there, and she would have been like, I don't have my keys, and I have mommy. I had recently that earlier that day when I went on the Daddy Daughter had a

Though, don't beat you, I know, but.

You're taking small things and you're piling it up.

But these are within the last couple of weeks.

Bro, That's all right. We all go through phases. You know, a little foggy.

You know I'm losing it. You know I'm losing No, you're not, you're not.

You're strong.

You're strong.

You do way more good than bad, way more good than bad.

I appreciate you.

Uh, my second one, my second shout in her first shadow simply is taking action.

And I'll explain why I say this.

When I built my home, I spent an ungodly amount of money on my landscaping, and I told the landscaping people, listen, this is what I want. I want you to think like you're walking into organized chaos like green lush, but there's flowers everywhere, Like you're on a French countryside and there's wildflowers as far as the eye can see, and it's just like a vibrant, beautiful bunch of colors. And you're just like stimulated, but you feel warm and fuzzy inside.

Blah blah blah, blah.

So I have now taken action. I bought a tractor, and I dug out, damn your half of my own landscape this past weekend.

Talk about being productive, you dugout.

Swear to God, I dug out. I call my wife.

You just got on the tractors. I know it's just gonna put up a funny bro that you found on Google. Jack saw that that that is funny. That's a funny Jack move. But let's call Taylor right now.

Also made those references what up, dude, Hey, I need I need You're on the bus right now.

I need you.

I need you.

Just plainly tell Will and the boys what we bought this weekend and what did I do this weekend?

Denying?

Now, aren't they they are? Taylor and I said, there's no way he actually used the tractor. He just got on it, took a photo and just like I'm gonna make him think that I was doing some ship, tell him, tell him what happened.

Well, I can completely understand why you think that. I even told Taylor, this is the first time in eight years I've ever seen dirt under his fingernails. It was like actually noticeable.

Get to the point, but he.

Attractor, and he got on it and he filled it up with grassy polls and then he drove it to the spot to dump it and drove it back.

Okay, did he dig up?

He said, he dug up half of his landscaping.

He did that by hand, and he actually did it for real, and he used.

The bucket to fill it up.

And then he he didn't real he didn't real landscaping this weekend.

Well, all right, that's confirmed. That's confirmed.

I love you, I talk to you later. So I dug my shit up.

Steve.

This Steve guy, he's like he's like an alchemist. Did he the way? He's got a green thumb like no one's ever seen before. He's out at my house every single day and he's like, I want to use your land to show people what.

I can do.

So taking I took action. And then three to five years, boys, I'm gonna have a world class garden at myf world class.

So you got to restart basically.

Yeah, but you know my grass grasstaat great grass all year.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's very green, good grass, vibrant green.

But you know, like the kind of bushes you see that are kind of around the green grass. We're working, baby, we are turning that shit into I'm not just talking about it'll look nice. I have an area designated to win Rebel Lawan, my oldest daughter. That there are different flowers and different plants that are from a family named Wind that we're gonna plant there. So that's gonna be a wind garden. There's obviously a willow tree, my youngest daughter.

I'm gonna play.

Different willow trees, different willow plants, which Steve was telling about. There's a bajillion type of different plants. I am going to have a world class garden three to five years. And I took action on it this weekend. Bookmark that bookmark.

That shout out no fore shoutout taking action.

Yep, shout out no for, shout out, take an action.

Shout out to you, said Steve.

Shout out to Steve.

That's I know. That's a gritty move.

It's a gritty move. Ione knows it. Yet I need to build my portfolio. Let me use your land, because I can really decked this thing out for real and then use that to market and showcase my skills.

He is.

I don't want to sing his praises too much. I do like Steve early in the game. It's early in the game, first quarter. He came out said a lot of good things. And I'll tell you what, first couple of minutes of the game.

He's been doing great.

Okay, he's been doing great, but I I mean, three to five years is a long time. Yeah, you know, eventually fatigueill set in, a fatigue mixed cowards out of all us.

Yeah, great quote.

I'm gonna pee, Mitch, do your shut up?

My shout out. Every shadow this week goes to uh Supercross?

So we do you ever not talk about Supercross?

I'm sorry. It's like you with Nebraska. I I'm a fan of something, I'm gonna talk about it, and every time I do, talk about it in the team meetings, other meetings with you guys, asking you guys if you're gonna show up. Here we go again, here you talking about Supercross, tell me to shut out and making me feel bad.

Okay, tell about talk about time about I'm teasing. I'm teasing a little true to it for sure, but I apologize. I apologize. I know you love Supercross. It's very near and dear to your heart.

Yeah, yeah, and I'm not I won't go into the whole story, but I want to shout out Sean Brennan, Dustin Pipes. Those were the two guys and Chris Elliott from the Team Solitaire. We have a dirt bike now. It was a very very long process in getting it, like a.

Year and a half, no year, we were Yeah, but the talk of getting something from Twisted Tea dirt bike wise.

Was last year's Supercross and that was a year ago.

But it's that that conversation of that bike started. You started that conversation with them a little before that.

I didn't think we were going to be able to get a bike from.

Him, but then we were going to get a bike, and you promised it.

For It's been a year, yeah, and that's we have it now.

We do it Ain't is beautiful.

It is so sick and just the like Sean and Dustin and Chris like that. He were super accommodating, accommodating for the guys or my family. Taylor Delaney like got his tickets, had a really good seat. But they're just great dudes, great people. And I can't thank him enough for getting us a dirt bike. And Taylor could only be at the thing for an hour.

First day back anniversary, and that's I'm I'm happy.

He even gave me, like gave us an hour, like he didn't have to do that. But and Sean was like, Okay, we got this, this and this, and then you're out. You're fine and we made it happen like and I'm stoked about it.

I know you're stoked. You remember when we were talking about your approach to Taylor?

Yeah, you're like, did he ever let you know that we talked?

What he he texted me is like, Mitchell, no, you're gonna ask me something, just ask it.

No, no, no, I said, when you're ready to ask me the question, I have an answer.

Yeah.

And he would you take it back?

Do you want to go?

No, you said, what's your answer? I said, you have to ask a question first.

Yeah. Yeah.

And then Taylor at first we were both like.

I'm not a supercross guy, like I'm not a dirt bike guy, and Mitch being like, hey, supercross this year, and again he dropped I mean no, he didn't drop the ball.

We went. We had a great time at.

Supercross, but we were supposed to have this dirt bike and Mitch is just all supercross twenty four to seven, three six. Now every time you're like, hey, I got another supercross topic to talk about, we're like, all right, mitg We're like, all right, where's the uh, where's the bike from last year that you were said that you swore up and down we were gonna have it.

Now it's here and you can't bring that up, no doubt.

But Taylor was getting back on the nineteenth and Supercross was on the twenty on four twenty shout out for twenty and uh, we were both kind of out on Supercross because again, he's just getting back and his anniversary is on four twenty, and so Taylor had already previously said like we weren't gonna do this, and so Mitch was like, hey, I think we're gonna get the dirt bike. I was like, fucking here you go again, Mitch. And I was like, listen, I've never I've never ridden a

We're kind of taken.

You're about to come back around and ask him something about Supercross, which we're in the middle of Spring tour, we're doing all these other things. I'm like, you're just gonna have to It's gonna be about how you frame it. And then I was telling Mitch. I was like, just we'll text later and I'll help you craft your text. Bas yes, I will text. You should try and say to because I was like, you're gonna have to go

But again completely understand.

That we talked about, you know, how much I was missing my family.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I was hurting, and so I was trying to think of a way that it could seem you know that obviously get you to say yeah, like you're gonna have to know if he does it within an hour, then he's gone within the hour, like all this stuff to like try to get the boy a win as well. Taylor and I ended up talking on the phone. I was like, Hey, I'm just gonna tell you mitche ask.

You a question.

I forget how I loved its gonna.

Ask you something and was like, here we fucking go.

And I was like, I said whatever, it was the Supercross than their back. I was like, listen, you say no, it's truly all good. I told him I've already prepped him where you basically saying no, but if you want to do it, I thought there was you were going to go yeah. Yeah.

I literally told Will I was like, it is dope. I was like, but it's my anniversary. Yeah, and I need to obviously I have to ask Talor and if I even get a hint that she might feel some type of way about it, the answer is without a doubt, no zero. So I called Taylor literally when we hung up, and I was like, guess what.

Which Even then, you gotta kind of craft.

I know, you gotta you hit. Just be like, they're giving us a dirt bike on four to twenty, we gotta go do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I was like, you want to know good news the bad news. She goes, she goes, what's the bad news. I know there's something that people want me to do on our anniversary. And she said, what's the good news. I was like, I'm getting a dirt bike and she goes, that's She literally goes, there's like a Pauser. She goes, dude, that's

Boom, And then I had to wait.

And then even then I had to wait like two three days, and I was like, I have to text Mitch about having an answer.

Are you scared for?

I was nervous the entire time.

What are you talking about? Do you know who?

You like?

What did you see me?

Matt? Well, No, no, no, not that you were mad that she It's not that. It's just that he's bringing up another super Cross question and we ball busted obviously every time because it comes up. He's like, hey, so.

Another brand wants you to do this. It's like, bro, I mean remember the private jet we've been rocking with Twisted Tea.

Yeah. Yeah, he brought up a private jet opportunity that fucking didn't work out.

So every idea jet brings up.

For Miami, yeah, said at me, and we're like, all right, yeah Mitch, no callback, no.

Callback, every idea like you'll come up with. You're just like, fun, when's this one gonna blow up? God? Yo?

But I think I was maybe the second most excited person there.

Your dad was number one.

Oh yeah, my dad was just he was just talking to like didn't behind the scenes people, just about the engines and stuff, just trying to like learn more about it because he's been doing it for like thirty years. And but they were My parents kept saying like four or five times. They The coolest thing was seeing how excited you were, because you had like that little kid like energy, like holy shit, like it's here, we got it.

You be a dip dude.

I was in your excitement and nerves to get.

On and be like, oh I knew I was gonna do that too. Oh I knew it.

And Delany was like, you can't do it, like the whole time. Lad's like in my ear like don't you can't fuck up. I'm like, yu, I'm so nervous. And I was like just like dealing with those and I was like.

Oh my god, and all the program I didn't even look that, didn't even you did that. Just from my eye, it didn't seem like anything had happened.

The pro guys came up to me, we're like doing the hey, it happens.

Those two like, no, do me that thing?

Maybe actually feel worse. I was like, please stop. I understand I fucked up, and I know you're trying to make me feel good. But the second one out almost no, no, no, no, Like I like I let the clutch out and I put the throttle down a little bit and I kind of just puttered out on me. This second one that was kind of weird because I had the clutching still and I pressed I put it in the first and then all of a sudden just turned off and I just I put my hands. I was like, I'm very

I was so nervous.

Yeah, before too, they were like, this is a race engine can't like on this road, be very careful, slips very easily. So like then I started getting my head a little bit, like, man, what if I just.

Tip this thing?

And I guess how long how long had it been since I like driven an actual dirt bike. Probably sixteen years old?

Is sixteen when you broke your foot or earlier?

And then no, I was twelve when I broke this with you, your boy, I know, Joe. I put a little thing on this on Twitter. But like I would get up in the morning before like middle school and high school, like six am. And go ride my dirt bike in the state Land for like an hour, and then I would come home and get ready for school. And I would get home and I would get all

I was just going to the desert.

I literally was. I like, I felt invincible with the dirt bike. It was insane.

That's cool, friend, dude.

I truly thought I would go to the super Pumper gas station on the corner of Dynamite and Tatum, and I'd get a microwave burrito and I'd fill my gas tank up and it costs like a dollar fifty and I'd bring change I put on the counter like Pump three, like twelve years old.

God pump three, dude, Travis Pastranaus, I know, yeah, that'd be so sick vlog with them. Get him on the bus, I know, dude. It literally like.

That was when I saw that bike. When I saw the bus with the boys on the sides and everything, I was like, this is that is probably the coolest gift. I feel weird saying that because I felt there's a cool gift I've been given out there.

But still from a nostalgia standpoint, little kid, the little Kid and everything.

Else by far the coolest thing ever. And it was cool that Mitch made it happen. And Mitch eats, sleeps and breathes, only thinks about dirt.

By and we just ball bust them, ball bust him for this last year.

It was truly, dude, it was the coolest thing.

Like I was at home, be like, hey day, we got a like we just left it there too, Like Delaney drove it here because I had to go my I was five minutes late to win soccer game, pulled up. I was a parent that pulled up and was like, I.

Got out there.

She's like changing in the car on the way over.

Got her out there playing soccer.

She kicked up.

She's gotten better at soccer, by the way.

That's good.

Yeah, she's gotten better. Shout out win, got out win, rebel. She's having fun now that's all it matters. Shout out Supercross.

Yeah nice, thanks to the dear bike. My shouting over shadow goes to I guess taking a shot or chance because this dude DM me on Instagram and you're gonna be fired up about this. This is something that maybe we can do as a group and maybe for like a little under the hood or bus scenes. But he's like been a huge chan of busting for years. Just opened up a new Philly cheese steak spot in the Nations here in Nashville. I love you guys, came out for a cheese steak on the house, no free shout outs.

Next week would honestly be a great week. Everything's we get a slower week next week and we get it.

On Tuesday next week.

Yeah down, We'll be out there Tuesday next week.

What is it?

Brotherly love?

Yeah, brother, they love cheese steaks and the Nation's so official review coming soon. But yeah, you gotta appreciate a guy just taking a shot, especially one of the lower level guys here. It's like, probably can't get Willard Taylor to respond. Maybe we can see if this other guy.

Will, so everybody. If you trying to get everybody d.

Don't do this, but following first, follow him first.

On the note of DMS, though, I did get another one on Twitter just from a guy saying that they bought thirteen of the boys hats for his bachelor party. They're going on to that celebrity golf tournament they do every year with like Pat and Oh, let's fucking go. And he said, you bought thirteen of them for all the homies and he's like, I'm just fired up. We're all gonna be like strapped up.

And I was like, yeah, let's go.

Hey, but for real, everybody d M Jack McPherson and just asking a ridiculous question. Yeah, no, no, no, just a question. I ask for a ridiculous ask question. They don't even they don't.

Uh, brother they love cheesteaks, M do you.

No, Tom Lance Harris. I guess he's the owner. He's just saying it's called brotherly love Cheesesteaks.

Yeah, yeah, local boy, Yeah, hometown cheese steak, the local boys. Yeah, got it. We gotta get Mitch's review on him, even though I highly question his Uh.

I have no idea, What a Philly cheesteak is? You think fucking mushrooms going?

All right?

Mitch, I watched a total a little bit that is your brooms.

Crazy peppers.

It's onions.

It out here, you fucking go.

You don't know what you're talking about. We had the one in Columbus, Ohio that was a bank. It was then what do you say, I don't know what a cheese steak tastes like.

I didn't say you think all these extras? Go ahead?

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This one comes from Aaron Fiel on Instagram. Nervous. You get four inches to divvy up between your height and your piece. You can also substitute an inch for ten pounds of muscle or to lose ten pounds of fat. How are you divving up your four inches?

Starting with what we have? Now?

Four inches us?

Right now?

Yep?

So I can take four inches off my height and put it on my piece.

No, you just get a four You just get four extra inches.

Oh, we're just getting gifted four inches right now.

Yes, we can put it, We can put it harder.

What you're saying might make it a better question.

Is if you give an inch to your piece, it takes away.

Yeah, it takes an inch from your heart.

What's the muscle and fat thing?

Again?

You can you can substitute an inch. You can substitute an inch, and you can either.

Take kock an inch to get to lose fat.

So you can, like, say you had four you take away an inch. You can either use that to get ten extra pounds of like muscle, or lose ten pounds of fat. But now you only have three inches left, if that makes sense, Okay, I'm ready.

So basically, I'm gonna use one of my inches to gain ten pounds of muscle, one of my inches to take ten pounds of fat off one inch.

Brother, you I don't think you can take much more fat, Like, what do you.

What do you mean?

Bro?

You're a lean, mean fighting machine. What are you trying to You're trying to look sick?

Bro?

Ten pounds of muscle I'm balancing.

I wonder where your body fat is right now.

It's probably high teens, mid teens.

I bet it's around like ten or eleven. No fucking way, I think.

So.

I appreciate you, by the way, making me blush even though you tended don't mean his compliment. I will take one inch to my penis and I'll subtract one inch from my height, giving me another inch.

No, so the way the way will described it, Jack or no.

Me, I'm taking one inch losing ten pounds of fat. I'm putting one inch on my piece and I'm putting the other two to my height. That's how I dealt with That's a twisted question, right, Yeah, I just ate saying Jack. I said something and Jack was like I think that could be a better word.

Like if you if you add an inch to your piece, you lose an inch to your height. Yeah, but then if you add an inch to your height, you lose an inch on your piece.

Right, I'll take two inches off my height if Yeah, if we were doing that, I would probably just add twenty pounds of muscle loose ten pounds of fat. Y. Yeah, keep my height, keep my piece.

That's all you six to two?

About? What are we for real? Though?

About about six two?

About six two? And if you want to go off like my proda and everything else, I'm flirting around like that. I think six to one.

No, I'll give you six one and a half. I'll give you six to two.

That's what I'm saying that obviously. Yeah, I'm just saying like, I'll keep my height. Yeah, six to one. We can say six to one.

So if I lose two inches off my height, where is that? What do I get?

If you lose two inches off your height, you can go two inches to your piece?

Okay, say monster?

Yeah, I know. Well now average Now we gotta remember. Now we got something that I'm not afraid.

And this is a pipe like when we remember when we were going to a Notre Dame. You said you could barely fit your piece and a white That's how I meant.

That is definitely how you meant.

I meant to say.

It was more commenting on how much weight to have lost. It's my pieces you got bigger from losing.

I can't, I can't.

I remember the delivery.

It was a delivery.

I would.

Yeah, I'll take two inches off my height for sure. I probably want two inches off my height anyway. I'm a little I'm too tall.

Yeah, I'm kind of too I am too tall. I think you're solid.

I mean you are, yeah, but six sevens like giraffe people go when you walk by.

All I'm saying is that'd be a great usage of your whatever it is, your four points. Yeah, because it seems like it's either use your point as an inch or gaining ten pounds of muscle or losing ten pounds of fat. Is that what you guys are doing? What are you guys doing? Yeah? Or if I switched it up at all, it'd still be it'd be ten. If I took an inch, I'd add it to my height ten pounds to use one more point ten pounds of

Piece, huggable, huggable, presentable. It's handsome. Yeah, you've got a handsome piece. That's really all that matters. Yeah, just searching for mouth hugs.

I was gonna say, you haven't even seen them, stiff, but you have, so have I?

Yeah, all right, what do you guys do?

All right, I'll add I'll take two points to my height and I'll do one muscle in one fat.

Yeah, a little nub.

Is that what we're We're doing it the way.

Yeah, we're doing the way we've been talking about it. Yeah.

M hmm, jack, what are you going?

One all around, one piece, one high, ten muscle, ten less fat?

Yeah, I think yeah.

So the only thing that change distribution, Yeah, just so nothing changes too drastically. Ye're gonna be falling over you know.

Yeah, kickstand that mini me kickstand. Shall we get into the uh coach landing at interview. This a banger, and anybody from the Oregon fan base who's listened to one hundred or an hour and forty minutes of our bullshit, welcome to Busting with the boys.

This is but this has been a good bustle.

It's been a fun bust with the boys. This is Busting the Boys at full power.

Yeah, yeah, just the boys hanging to talk and chop loving stories. But you guys are gonna love this coach Landing episode. We talk about his journey, we talk about the biggest moves he's made within his coaching career, having a job, taking a lesser one just to you know, give himself more opportunity and potential. He's got a group chat that he runs where there's a committee involved in everything,

We enter up this episode to bring you something called true classic. And there's a whole sheet here. There's a sheet up there that I could talk to you about. But really it's about what I'm wearing right now. And let me tell you, I'm a gentleman that stands at six seven. My body's a whole different shapes, a whole a bunch of different times, kind of like a Jonah

Because they're too tight.

Oh the waistband, I can't get it going. I'm gonna show you these that's my nugget right there. But look at these little boys are here. These are the tighter feeding ones. Let me see your nugget.

Yeah, because you like them tight, I do like them tight. You can kind of see the outline right there.

But look at these things.

Yeah, they are extremely flexible.

Can you get the wine shot on this thing?

To watch this hit? A full squad that hurts my knee. That's a great squat yeh.

And it's comfortable too.

They got stretched, they move around the waistband. These are thirty six thirty six. If you're wondering, the waistband is forgiving and it's got that. It doesn't have that waistband you know when you put underwear on sometimes and then the underwear like kind of grabs and you look back at those hips and you're like, God, why do we get that ripple effect going on? You don't get that with these jeans. They fit comfortable, they fit sturdy, and they're not going to drag down your.

Ass if you don't like him. If you don't like him snug like that. They got different varieties. And I see you, I see you rocking the Yeah, you rocking the hoodie that was it's nice. That was a willy Ce staple back in the fall or winter time.

And how many times are in the falls that I look at you?

Oh so many times?

Yes, I was like, dude, where'd you get those?

Because they're they're button down, they're short sleeve button down that I would rock on the Pro Football Football show. And just their blank te's, I like just a sleek plain tea fit you just right leaves a little like you said, leaves a little wind to kind of you know, if you're a little if you feel a little heavier, like Burt Kreischer would put this on and he looked like an athlete. Yeah, there's no question about that.

It grabs the shirts, they grab the shoulders and the chest, but then they kind of let you live a little bit and the tots.

How you got a casual look, the casual feel that you want every day, but also a little bit of like professionalism. Right, Maybe that's not the right word professionalism, because it was like it's like a balance in between the two to where you're you're comfortable, you're relaxed all day, but you can wear something to where you can kind of like rock around the office if you know your office that you wear some casual wear.

Yeah, and a lot of people like to wear like stuff with a bunch of like designer that this dude you walk around with these clothes on. It's like, Oh, that's just sharp dressed man right there. That's an easy time. That's a sharp dressed man just walking by.

He's not trying to make colors.

Like good colors, like good quality fabrics. Dude, Well, I'll read you a couple of points, but I really want to tell you how I actually feel because first time in my life, this is the first time in my life that I have owned more than three pairs of pants that I truly will be like, I could wear any of these any day of the week.

You were fired up and we got this when they came on board.

One of the first things I said when I saw you, I gave you a big, a big boy hug. We had a nice embrace after not seeing each other for thirty days, and I go, dude, I got my true classes. Yeah, so far I was wearing the sweatpants.

I was wearing the sweatpants. Yeah.

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It was one of those like I'd gotten a phone call, I'd sent letters everywhere, I'd gotten a phone call, and I just told my wife was like, this is the first time anybody's even called me back.

And then it kind of came and went and said I gotta go drive there. I gotta go, you know, take a chance.

Yeah. But like my brother, he's a high school coach and he kind of came out to one of the coaching conventions they hold him at. There's one in Nashville at the Opera or whatever, and they're just like, it's just like at Zoo. I mean, the who's who, they're there, they're out there, they're having a good time or whatever. It's just you know, you go to Nashville and then a lot of guys, I'm assuming like yourself at that time,

I want to I want to pour coffee like whatever, just to get in the building.

Well, but where did that? Where did that come from?

For you?

Is it dead linebacker mentality? You know that?

And just never wanted to live with regret and and early on realizing okay, like I have a greater passion for this.

You know, para teacher conferences those are cool and all.

Yeah, but I want to coach ball. Yeah, and I want to be somewhere where it's about ball more often than not.

Right.

Uh, even that's changed in college football, you know, but uh, the aspiration just to get to the highest level and and not sit here and say, man, maybe I could have if I would have sacrificed something.

So has it always been that way? If you always wanted to be a head coach, I don't know, or chase the dream head coach?

Yeah, I always wanted to see you know where, and uh, you know what the end all goal could be, you know what what you could achieve and some of that reset you know, I've told people this four but when my wife got sick. You know, it kind of made you say, okay, like step back, who really cares about this other stuff. It's about your family, It's about taking care of your three boys. And I probably I was probably really selfish early on in my career, right, like

And and and you're in you're literally twelve hours a day. I more, sometimes more.

Than that when yeah, yeah, when we're I mean you sleep in the office especially, you know, early on in your career, there probably hasn't been a place that I've worked where I haven't slept in the office at some point, you know, wherever I'm at, and uh, that's sometimes that's required sometimes, you know, I've learned how to be a little bit more.

Efficient there and balance it. But you have to be willing to do more when you're at the bottom of the totem pole right to advance.

And if for any GA's young coaches out there listening, like what what are those gritty things that you would be more willing to do than the next guy, because there's so many of g there's so many of those guys that's trying to get their foot in the door. You obviously, you know you're driving thirteen hours just for an interview a pit just to I think I believe I heard right. The coaches were at Penn State that day,

Yeah, just I think every coach has aspirations of being the offensive coordinator, the defensive coordinator, the head coach. And the reality is you got to go find all the jobs that nobody wants to do and become the best at them, right, Like like making a call sheet and you know, making yourself to where when this guy leaves, he's like, hey, how do I open up this file?

Yeah? You know, how do I create this?

How can I make this cut up when the film shuts down?

Yeah? Find all that?

I mean, I remember going to men's warehouse to pick up a coach of socks. You know, certainly wasn't what I wanted to do at the time.

Yeah.

Right, But if that, you know, gave me favor with that coach for an opportunity to you know, be his guy that he trusted, then you do whatever it is, is.

The head coach gig everything you thought it'd be. You know, I love a lot of pieces of it.

I love the fact that you get to interact with more position groups than just one side of the ball. There's certainly a lot of headaches, but every job has headaches. I mean, it's it's a ton of fun, and it's a lot of fun in this place. It's just, you know, fun being a place where you have great support and where you have players that are really good.

If let's just hypothetically say the cameras are turned off, what's one thing you bitch about the cameras? Yah? Yeah, what's one thing you's bitch about with the job, Oh, let's just say complain.

Yeah, I'll be honest, I don't. I don't bitch a lot because I realize how lucky and fortunate I am. I mean, I think the landscape of college football is changing drastically and everybody, everybody speaks to that.

Do you love every piece of that?

No?

But you better be willing to adapt.

I think the more time you spend complaining, you know, the less you are focusing on getting better. And I don't take a lot of those problems home. One of the benefits for me is my wife never really asked me about work, which I don't want her to. Yeah, I spend all my time talking about work at work, so when I get home, it's that chance to uh, you know, kind of kind of check out after you can get done making your recruiting calls and stuff.

You're talking earlier about how your perspective shifted, like when your wife had gotten sick and everything else. How do you, I guess, work on that work life balance when you know, because especially in the you know, really any industry, if you're somebody who's ambitious to do anything great, you got to be a little cynical. You got to be a little obsessive. You got to like, like you said, like you're you're selfish because you're trying to go after your thing.

Well, one thing I'll say is that there isn't balance. You know, there is no balance in this profession. There's no balance in your profession. We want to be great, right, so there's gonna be sacrificed. We talked to the same thing with our players, like, if you want to be great at something, you've got to be willing to sacrifice something that's valuable, right, And one of those things we

When when your wife was sick, was there ever a moment to where you thought, Okay, maybe I need to shift, Maybe this isn't what I need to go after, maybe I need to do something else, like talk about those moments to where there I would assume that there were some lows and even some hard conversations.

I would assume, yeah, there were, there were certainly some lows. You know, I don't think I ever wavered and what I wanted to be able to do. Uh, I just probably became a man of faith a lot more and got on my knees a little bit more, you know, speaking to a greater power to say, hey, I can't do this alone. I need this lady here with me. And uh, I always knew that I was going to continue, coach. I don't think that ever that ever shifted. But you

Yeah, I'm uh again, fascinated listening to uh To Breneman's interview with you. But we got to sit with coach Norvelle a couple of weeks ago, and something that really stood out talking to him is when he's sitting there, he's just preaching gospel about you know, his how he worked and very similar to your style of coming through it all. But one thing that stood out was like never working for the job that you currently have, always

Yeah, I mean, Mike has a crazy passion for the game. When it comes to like his intensity. You want to see that start at the top, right. You want to a head coach that you know he's not going to ask you to do anything that he's not willing to do. He put in the work, he put in the time, He looked at things outside the box, right, And that's what I hope people see here is one you.

See the details because all the details matter.

Especially at this level.

But a guy that's willing to put it in everything that they have to for us to be successful, and willing to adapt and change.

I think that's where a lot of coaches mess up.

I know you've said that they're too many moments, too many, like you know, breakthrough moments. But is there one job shift that you made, a one decision that you made that really kind of puts you in the right spot to where you knew some things might come together sooner rather than later because of a choice that you made. I don't know.

It's something I can appreciate now more than I did probably at the moment. I was a full time coach at sam Houston State as a dB coach. I was finally making a little bit of money. We had three kids and kind of living under our means, and I got an opportunity to be a graduate assistant in Alabama.

And if you go back and look at.

That staff now as an all star staff, you crazy staff. You know Coach Saban, Coach Smart, you know Lane Kiff and Mario Cristobaul mel Tucker, Billy Napier. I mean, the list kind of just goes on and on, and the guys that are on that staff and I learned more in football that year in twenty fifteen than I'd ever learned in my career.

What was that interview like, going out to going out to interview with that with Alabama?

Yeah, you know, nothing that I had ever been prepared for. You know, I kind of assumed i'd be a fly on the wall, and this is a GA job. It's not like it's the most important role in the building. But to sit there with coach saving and he's asking you questions about your philosophy on pump protection, that's not something I had dialed up ready.

You know, I have my thoughts and I shared him.

But you got to meet with everybody in the organization, you know, from position coaches to administrative staff.

You know, I thought they did a really good job of.

Being meticulous in that process, getting feedback from everybody in the building what you think of this guy.

So it's a lot of fun.

I still got the voicemail saved on my phone today of coach Sabing calling and you know, saying, hey, give me a call back.

Was him offering me the job.

Oh that's fucking awesome. Not deleting that. Yeah, did you walk away from that interview being like, damn, I wasn't prepared.

Like no, I felt good about the interview, but the process took a while, right, there were some other guys they interviewed, and I didn't know that I was going to get the job.

But you know, the big difference there is you go take that job.

I'm making decent money, not great money, and you go take that job. You're making twelve hundred bucks a month, three kids, and you're don't have insurance. Again, all of a sudden, you're on EBT. I mean, it doesn't make sense, right.

You're just cutting up tape for all the cutouts for all the personnels and formations. Yeah, you're doing a little bit of everything, doing a little bit of everything.

So it's uh, you know, you take a step backwards financially to take a step forwards from a professional standpoint.

Yeah, you got any good Kiffin stories? I got some good Kif I've seen some.

You got one that you can tell.

I don't know what I got.

I'll say this, I've seen Lane and he can take an ass chewing, you know, And I've seen that happen before, you know, multiple times. You know, it's something he was He became privy to there at Alabama. But he was able to dust it off pretty well. You know, it never really affected him.

Yeah, that's awesome. Well, I think we had a body armor question. Do we just got to say body arm or do I need to do it like a little read? Okay, okay, because I do want to ask. I want to ask your your biggest ass chewing story that you took personally that just had you beaten down from a certain coach or any coach from any Let's do both. Let's see both.

Well, I mean, did you ever have one? Did you ever have one?

Saving? Yeah?

And it's the craziest deal because you know, the best position to be at in Alabama with coach saving is to really be in the outfield.

Right.

You got the infield that's all the full time coaches. But to be in the outfield, you're kind of safe. Like you're the guys that laugh at all the head coaches jokes. You see other guys get their ass rip, but you're kind of it's not your.

Position, it's not so. I was in the outfield. I was a GA.

But I remember we ran a kids camp and we must have been working like seven eight year old kids, right, But he ran kids camp like we're running Alabama like fall training camp, and this is I get there kind of late, and I'm kind of just learning the process.

I'm a little bit of a fly on the wall.

And one of our strength coaches is running back drills and he leaves, right, So he leaves the bag drills.

He got to go work out our guys.

So I just started doing back drills like I did at park Hill South, or like I did at Sam Houston State, and I was not doing bag drills right. Coach Saban came over and it happened to be a day that Paul Finebaum was falling around, and he let into me. He let me know what bag drills were supposed to look like, you know, and it was a great example of how everything mattered to him.

It didn't matter we were coaching eight year olds, right, It mattered what you were doing the drill.

Right.

So I stayed up that night and watched every drill to make sure I had a mask or just in case I got thrown in the fire.

Now, how about any coach the biggest, Oh.

Man, I've had a lot of them, right, I had a lot of them. Curry Smart's, you know, a great a professional. Given those you know, Todd Graham is the best.

But usually once you once you take a few year kind of like and then you see the new guy get it. You're like a it's part of the gig. What was one that really puts you?

I'll say early as a coach, you know, Todd Graham probably prepared me for a lot of future astruists.

Right.

So early as a coach, I was running the scout team.

You know, I was a gat this time. You only had one ga on offense, one g on defense. I was kind of coaching all eleven on offense. After practice one day, Coach Graham goes, man, I'm sorry, you know, I apologize. We have the worst scout team in the nation. And it's not your fault. It's my fault because I hired the guy. He runs the scout He points to me, right, he runs the scout team, and he is the worst.

Oh fuck man, I'm just trying to just trying to imagine in that moment, are you thinking that You're probably thinking maybe of a couple of players like you if you guys would have just fucking look at the court.

Oh no, in that moment, you're thinking about should I stay a high school coach? Should I go back to Missouri right now to go coach high school ball?

So?

Uh no, it's humbling experience, right which you can't cry and spilled milk.

Yeah, yeah, keep rolling. Talk about your process of being the head coach of the University of Oregon. Wow, that panned out for you.

Yeah, it's been great, And it really goes back to the guys that I got to work with before. I got to see some great coaches do this, you know, whether and every one of them was different. Kirby's different than Nick. You know, Nick's different than Mike. Mike's different than Casey, Keeler and Todd, so the you know, I'm relatively young in this position, but I got to see a lot of really great coaches do it in this seat. And I think the biggest thing I learned is I

When you were in the interview process with becoming the head coach of Oregon, was it a time where U and I apologize for being unfamiliar with now all the interview processes and everything else. But was it one of those situations where you're hitting the interview circuit and thinking like, Okay, maybe I'll be a year involved and kind of hit this and kind of have it for the resume and then maybe the next year or you got in the room and they're like, hey, we can't let this man leave.

Yeah, college is a little bit different, you know, but there were some There were some opportunities to interview for head coaching jobs before, so it wasn't my first interview, but they they kind of come to you.

You don't know when it's gonna come.

I mean, on this one, I'm actually flying on a trip to Miami to do official visits. So I'm recruiting for Georgia and at the time really really satisfied with my you know, situation at Georgia.

We just lost the SEC championship.

I'm kind of focused on the roads or some me be the Orange Bowl, but I'm going down here to recruit it, and I get a call saying, hey, these guys want to.

Hop on a zoom.

So I do a zoom, you know, in an airport, fbo throwing kind of a suit coat. And that was just kind of the start of it. And it really escalated really fast after that night, after that initial zoom, with some more phone calls and goes quick.

You know, you never know when it's gonna come.

There were times where I thought I'd get offer a head coaching job and I didn't, And then this one is probably one that I didn't think was next. I didn't have a connection to Orgon. I'd never been to Oregon until I got off the plane here as the head coach, so I knew what it was somewhere I wanted to be, but I wasn't.

As familiar, you know, with it, or had any ties to it.

So go through that process, every one of them is different, and this one it just you could tell that there was a really unique vision and you know it was all in sync, it all in line with what you want as a head coach.

Was it with with Oregon?

Was it one of those things when you're interviewing to be a headman to where you're kind of wanting to be a little choosier or pick the right situation, like had you know anybody, whether it's Norvelle saving any of these guys before you coach smart kind of giving you any advice on Hey, whenever you do get an opportunity, to make sure it's the right one.

Well, I knew I could be picky because I knew had a really good job, right. I really enjoyed being the decordinator at Georgia. Got to coach some really good players. You know, we were competing for championships there. Got to win a national championship that last year. So I knew I had a good job and I wasn't gonna leave for a bad job. You know, I always think the job you take has to align with your goals, like where you're gonna grow. It's not about how much you're

Then you know you have a couple of successful years, the Alabama job opens up. How how real could that opportunity have been had you sought that out, because obviously you know I saw your video whenever you were saying very juicy. By the way, that was a phenomenal job by you. Guys.

Poor who has goals and aspirations?

Raise your hand up, all right.

Everybody got goals and aspirations. You know how you get those, you'd be the best where you're at. That's how you reach goals and aspirations. That's how great dangs happen. It's not about worrying about the next day. It's about worrying what's right in front of you, six inches right in front of your face. I want to remind you, guys what that means. You guys just got here, don't know

The world didn't have a lot of what finishers. We're finishing you.

I want to be here in Eugene for as long as Eugene don't have me. This place has everything that I could possibly ever want. Is a little bit of a in society today with people looking for what's next and where there's an opportunity, and the reality is, you know, the grass is not always greener.

In fact, the grass is damn green and Eugene.

But obviously you want to stay here and have your roots and everything here and be here for a long time. But how real was that potential to be the Alabama's head couch or be in the mix for the conversation?

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think there's there's been a lot of opportunities that were real. But if you we're never gonna let it get real here. I'm exactly where I want to be, right. I've said it a lot, but you know I've got right now. I have an eleven year old, a twelve year old, and a fourteen year old. I'm committed to those guys finishing school here, right and for me to do that, we gotta win, right, So are there I'm not interested in the other opportunity.

One of the reasons we released the videos.

I'm talking to a recruits mom the night before and she's saying, I'm seeing all over you know, the internet.

The year lead.

Targets on you like he's gonna be the priority, right, I need I need this ticle. And so we actually were talking on the phone. It's like, what would make you feel comfortable? I'm telling you I'm not going anywhere. What would make you feel comfortable? Are you gonna make an announcemre? I said, how about I make a video?

You've you've talked about alluding to the book Good to Great and you know what is it? Walking walking twenty miles? Yeah, twenty mile march, the twenty mile march?

Yeah?

What are some things you take out of that book outside of the twenty mile March? And also are you making are these guys reading this? Are these guys reading the book? Too well or are you just kind of going over it? Yeah, they don't. They don't necessarily read the whole book. Okay.

You know I've had one player after I get up here and talk through a book that asked me afterwards, hey, what was that book? And they come grab Christian Zalaz first round pick for the Patriots. He's like, that was really good? Can can I read that book? So I wasn't a big book rader, but I'm looking for.

Ways to grow. Right now.

We're really studying the book Art of War Masunsu and then in Potential by Adam Grant. You know, I think those are both some great books that you know, allude to growth. Right So we're always trying to look for something, and it's different every year. But probably the biggest thing out of Good to Great was what I can do different? Not so much about what the team can do different. But if you want to have a you know, great organization, you got to have level five leadership and what's that

Is there anything with the head coaching job that was a surprise for Okay, I anticipated a little bit differently being a coordinator, being a position coach, that you learned about becoming the head coach like any any you know, harder situation, harder situations with players are instilling all of this philosophy and getting it amongst the entire group.

Yeah, I mean, one understand that you don't want a coaching staff that has a bunch of use right. You want a coaching staff that's diverse, that can relate to players in different ways. And you know, what you define as a good head or as a good position coach isn't always the exact mirror of you.

You want some other pieces to that.

I think the other thing that you find out really quick is a head coach is your time's not your time anymore. You might think you can get up here early and watch some film, but as soon as you walk in, somebody's knocking on your door. You start to learn to appreciate people can solve problems right, like if they can figure it out and you can tell them later how you did it wrong.

But this is what we're gonna do.

And then you can't be afraid of confrontation, right, That's that's part of the role. You got to be willing to tell people when it doesn't look the way you want to look, and you're not You're not here to make friends, right, You're you're here to run an organization and do it the right way.

But you can do that with respect and the way that you do it. Yeah, because that right, it's so much easier said than done, especially with the confrontational.

People avoid confrontation and it's necessary to grow.

Right.

If you never identify what's what's not going right, you're never gonna get it right.

Yeah. Oh, man, I had a question that you were talking about.

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Sorry, this is what my brain does. Yeah, David dave Port always on his show this morning, He's like will he just can't help it. His brain it's filled with rocks. He'll continue to this.

Yeah, bro, this is keep Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So we had this, we had.

This beer lit we have this annual beer Olympics that we do and with the NFL schedules, got one similar with my buddies. Oh yeah, yeah, I.

Can't wait to ask about that. Yeah, I know you, I know you're kind of that you're the you're the head man.

In the group chat. I'll get to that. Uh, but yeah, we have this Beer Olympics that we set up and we tailored around the schedules of the NFL guys, and we always do it the last week of June because when when Mini Camp is done, guys have a like six weeks to kind of do their thing. Well, the first week after Mini Camp is over is Tighten You. And George he's our boys, so we kind of we go to Tighten You. We do tight and you get some interviews there. So we do it the week after.

Yeah, it must be something with Taylor.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, something. You know, when you're a superstar and then you're dating like the most popular person in the world, schedules you got to kind of line them up. So I understood, but it made for a bad Everything kind of fell out for your boy this week. Yeah, I'm out here just taking bullets. Happens.

So you guys have you guys have an annual little trip we go every year. We have a you know, one of my buddies is the linebackers coach for the Giants. He's getting married this year in Miami, so we're taking a little a little trip to Miami right before the wedding. Right this I hope it doesn't end up like you know, hangover. I hope we all make it to the wedding on time. Yeah, but it should be a fun trip. Are you the glue that holds the group chat?

Not the glue I mean, are you?

I'm a piece of the puzzle.

Yeh Sup.

There's this committee that exists that's kind of this, but nobody really knows.

You guy, you got a committee within the group.

This is this is deep. Yeah, this is big. So guys played different roles in the group chat. Nobody really knows who the committee is. Okay, you guys say, yeah.

Nobody really knows who the committee is. It just but they make a lot of decisions and and things get done.

What's been the best trip that you guys have been on?

Man, We've done Tahoe. Tahoe is a lot of fun. We've we've done deep sea fishing a couple of times. Uh, you know, there's been there's been some good trips and it's gotten better. Is my job's gotten better? The trips we've gotten a little bit better too.

So yeah, I bet everybody's getting a little bit better. Budget. Hey, let's do it up a little bit more this time, not a lot like where you guys, are you back in the GA days where you're all cramming in a hotel? We got it. We normally can find a good spot to stay in. Dude. It would be like we go to got an invite if you're interested, Oh, no, ship, we'll talk. That'd be great.

Okay, we're gonna say no cameras.

That's fine, Yeah, I'll do it.

Trust that these guys would get excited if they knew that you could come.

You know, okay, this trip all right? When are we able to say okay, okay, okay, we'll talk. We'll talk, we'll talk off camera. I'll mess with that. I appreciate that. What now I kind of now, I kind of remember instilling all your stuff with the guys, right like again going back, and I'm using mcveighs as another example, because again I would I'll just always pick his brain about

The piece I always say is if I could go back and do it all over again, I would have got a psychology degree because it's really about figuring out how do you get that guy to believe in what you're trying to teach him or try to grow And it could be the same with a coach.

The other piece of just having an onboarding.

Process when somebody shows up like nobody knows how you want it done unless you explain it to them, and that takes time, right, you got you got to sit there and try to create and make coaches talk through why they're making this call in.

This situation right, and what your philosophy is.

And we talk about playing the game before we play the game as much as possible, we do a coaches meeting where we put on a TV copy.

I'm like, all right, what are we calling here?

What's the situation? What are we thinking about? With timeouts? And try to play the game out with our offensive coordinator defense? Whare you know Bonnicks would sit in that meeting with us last year. But you try to get everybody on the same page. And you know that's probably where most valuable, the most valuable time for you is how quickly can you get everybody in your organization believe in the same way, seeing it the same way you see it, or challenging yourself to see it differently.

Yeah, And we spend a lot of time on that. Bo Nick's at the Heisman ceremony, you talked about him babysitting your kids.

Yeah, was that a.

Pr move or is he actually a baby talk? That story is real.

I literally came home one day and Bow's there, I mean Bow and his wife, is he? And really Casey Rodgers and his wife Maya. They would come over to our place quite a bit, and every once in a while Sofia would put them in charge of watching the boys and she'd have a girl's night out. So unbelievable kid, unbelievable family. I'm really excited to see what he does next.

Are there players that you watch have success, whether in the NFL or that you look back on, that you have a a un entertaining recruiting story about.

Okay, good question, I'm trying to think entertaining recruit I mean, we've all been in the situations where you go do a home visit and you eat one meal and you're full, and then you got to go to the next home visit and you do another meal.

I mean, they can wear you out because you're gonna eat it when you walk in the door.

If mom's you gotta eat it, you gotta eat it, and you gotta pretend you love it even if you don't.

But but interesting recruiting stories.

I mean somebody that that you guys never probably would have heard of it, but he's actually playing.

Right now in the league.

Names JJ Russell. You know, I remember going when I'm at Memphis, I'm going to recruit JJ. And I swing by the bank first because mom works at the bank. I drop a note in the bank teller and it shoots up the Taylor pol comes to his go play pool with his dad, right, you know, at the local pool spot and we're playing pool, and then go over to the school, hang out with JJ at the school for a little bit.

After school, we get on the game. We're playing Madden against each other.

The last game we played for a commitment, right, get his get his commitment, commitment for a commitment. It's once I've built some confidence that Okay, I can handle this guy, play for commitment. And that that night finished off with Coach Norvell pulling up this big Memphis bus outside of his house and we did the home visit.

Meeting right there in front of his house.

So it was a h yeah, it was That's a kind of a fun story where I felt like there's.

No anybody did more than we did, right, right, right, right? Hey did you prep now? Were you preparing ahead of time? Like, Okay, I'm gonna have to play this kid in the game. And I got a call on.

I didn't know that, and I wouldn't have I wouldn't have said, hey, this one's for a commitment unless I felt good about where we were at, because I haven't played a lot of games since then. During COVID, I got the sticks out a little bit, you know, as I tell my wife, Hey, I'm going to work, I go downstairs and play what's it, call of duty?

Yeah, I suck it.

They're playing war Zone with the boys.

Honey, shut up, I'm doing my job.

Take the headset off. Yeah, she figured that out pretty quick. So, uh, yeah, I haven't played. I haven't been on the game for a long time.

But you try to.

You're always trying to find something that's going to separate you from every other coach they're talking to about. Hey, this is what a three technique looks like. I mean, there's a little bit more to that in the relationship.

How how was it like getting to learn the whole recruiting aspect of college ball, Like you, I would assume you being a lower guy first, and then you kind of get an area. You might go into some dicey situations, some dice year. He's like, Okay, I gotta kind of I gotta get crafty here. Do you have any of those?

Oh, I've been you know, I've been in Baltimore where I was like, okay, I got a change. I'm wearing these cool Oregon shoes didn't be used to be something that was part of my game. But I've pulled up the place where I'm like, all right, I got to put on my other set of shoes here. You've been into a spot where I got to get padded down to go in. You know that didn't really necessarily make

Weren't going in.

You know, I'm like, hey, well you walking me to my calls, like you try to be uncomfortable here, but yeah, you you find yourself in a lot of unsavory situations sometimes when you're chasing the right guys.

Dude, I bet this question came from came from JP. Looking back, if you were what coach would you want to play for outside of yourself? Now that you've experienced all the coaching trees that you have, who is a coach that you want to play for? Let's say both position and even coordinator. Obviously I had coach, you'd probably you know, you're probably gonna say all of them. There's benefits.

No, No, I mean I think I could you know, speak to each one of them because they're all different, but but ultimately, like position coaches, we got some great coaches on our staff here, like Tash Lapoy is one of the best coach. I was actually a GA at Alabama. Tasha was a position coach in Alabama before he became the decordinator. And you know, the amount of time and effort he puts in, the details he puts in I

As a backer. What decordinator would you wanna would you want to play for? That's a great question.

You know Mel Tucker, you know, and uh I know, uh, you know, Mel was a guy that you always felt like was in your corner. You know, he did things, you know, the right way. He always had the players back. He's that coach that had the players back. He's a good teacher, good communicator, and uh he was always looking out for you outside of the field too.

Yeah. Well yeah, and then there's one more. Okay, we said that, we got that one, all right, this is our twisted question. Oh but it won't be too twisted.

If you hit a.

Movie made about you, What Hollywood actor would you want to.

Portray you want to versus like, what's most likely?

Right, Let's do both, Let's have fun, We'll do both.

Okay, that's a good question. What's the who's the batman?

Uh?

Christian Baal?

I think that guy just hits it out the park and like almost every role. Yeah, I'd probably say Christian Bale would be you know, he's a method actor. I've seen him get fat, I've seen him get skinny, get I mean, he just.

Does it all. He's all sell out for the role. Right.

Daniel day lewis another guy I think about like that that just like goes all in on his roles. But I probably said like Ben Afflack is somebody that probably look a little bit closer to I don't know. I mean, he does a good job too.

Do you guys have anybody minds? For some reason, I feel like I I think he could.

You could get a Leo Leo get some scruff going, kind of cut their hair like his leoser. That's a big bull. Yeah, coach Man, we appreciate it. This has been awesome. I've enjoyed. I knew I would enjoy this conversation again, being a Missouri boy, being a linebacker, being

I'm certainly lucky I've got I've got some great luck and maybe created some of it, but been around great people. Best thing I've had I've been around winning organizations, and that's that's the that's the key to moving forward.

So I really appreciate it's been fun.

Man. Yes for the boys, Oh I got As a matter of fact, I got one more. How long did it take you to craft the speech before Colorado?

The Cinderella story is over, man, Right, they're fighting for clicks, we're fighting for wins.

There's a difference, right, there's a difference.

Right.

This game ain't gonna be playing in Hollywood.

It's gonna be played on the crass, or it's gonna be played on the crass.

It really not.

That was not off the top, No, No, certain I write down my thoughts, but I really do it kind of the hour leading up to that, that meaning, and really it's built off of a lot of the things we've already talked, you know, throughout the week. So we have messaging every single week trying to say what's gonna be the difference in the team that we're gonna play, you know, and that one happened to you know, be public consumption.

But it didn't play out the.

Way I thought it wouldn't necessarily play out when it came to that, you know, So every week we have a message right that we try to you know, piece together for the team that we're playing. What's gonna be the theme, what are gonna be the differences in us and the opponent, what's gonna lead to wins and losses? And those same things you hear in that speech were things that we had talked about kind of throughout the week.

What makes us different than this team?

How are we going to handle your pregame antics, how are we going to handle some of the things they're gonna show up? So you know, it's a fun part of the job, but that that has very little to do with what the success of the game looks like.

Yeah, but well executed, we usually yeah, clicks, wins.

Oh that said, that's up bar right there, Hollywood the Hollywood grass. Oh man, you crushed it, Bro, But all the same, I don't want to get get up the way yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, the game matters way more. But anyway, Hey, we appreciate it, man, this has been awesome for the boys. Bro.

Absolutely