Pat McAfee Finally Comes On Bussin' With The Boys

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Good morning, Tier ones, Tier two's, Tier threes. New people coming in flock into this episode because we had on Pat McAfee a goat somebody who's on the media mount rushmore especially in the podcasting athlete turned media guy, media mogul. But welcome, good morning. If you're watching in the afternoon or in the evening, good afternoon and good evening to you all. This is Bustling with the Boys. I'm your

How pasty I get.

The worst part about being white in the winter months is like you start to get super pasty in your hands, like in your feet, below your ankles. I'm super insecure walking around the house. I don't want my wife to see my shit. I don't want my dog to see my shit. But uh, that's that's funny dude speaking of uh, it's crazy the power move, Tom Brady just retiring on.

Day one and Black History Month. My uh dog.

I tweeted that this is what you're watching right now is February first, when I'm shooting this intro. We shot the episode with Pat mcphel on what January twenty first, But I'm sitting here, like, you know, several minutes removed from uh making my tweet, not a lot of people talking about Tom Brady retiring on day one and Black History Month.

Knowing that it would fucking take a lot of different turns, but I thought that she was hilarious.

I gotta remember sometimes that I'm not in a locker room, Like clearly I'm not. Oh that is uh, that shit is comedy. But anyways, as we get into the episode. Before we get into the episode, because we got to clear a lot of things up, we gotta do some house cleaning, tom Brady retiring, you know, Championship weekend, super Bowl predictions, the Boys going to the Pro Bowl, Begles Rams T shirt update, baby update, and then we will

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Then let's go pod.

Yeah, and he put out a statement saying that you know that it wasn't like nothing was final, right, but he's.

Still mulling it over.

He's still thinking about it, which I respect. Like this man, it's Tom number one, It's Tom fucking Brady. He's the greatest player to ever sh wrap it up. Everybody's gonna argue best athlete of all time, this, that, and the other. He's the best player in this sport. With all the accolades that he has, he's the best accomplished athlete probably of all time.

I'm just gonna say that out loud. I don't know if that's true.

I'm sure people are gonna have a lot more championships and that'll start, you know, that'll start some everybody's gonna have all these graphics. But Tom Brady, as far as football goes, is the best football.

Player to ever lace them up.

And I think the way this man is with his companies, with his stuff off the field, with content, everything else, and what he's done for the game of ball, like this man should be able to break his own news. And I do think it's unfortunate that people in his camp somebody leaked it. People are trying to be fast on the scene and announce his retirement, and he had a retirement today on Instagram. I think there's more that's gonna be coming because this man, go ahead, blast.

I mean, he left off twenty years of his career.

Yeah, this man left out a lot of New England.

He didn't mention Craft, he didn't mention Belichick, he didn't mentioned nothing with New England. I saw Portannoy's press which was funny, like he's stirring up all the Patriot fans and everything else.

I think there's gonna be something bigger announced.

There's gonna be a video like I think there's gonna be some movie, you know what I mean, Like some climatic, climatic, cinematic climactic there we go, climactic.

Some cinematic presentation. They're trying to use big words. Don't even know what.

Has a series out too right now, Man in the arena, Man in the arena, but still hasn't concluded, right.

I think there's gonna obviously there's gonna be a lot more to it. Again, it's Tom Brady. He's put in twenty two years, not as a kicker, not as a punter, as a real athlete in the NFL and hate nothing.

I'm not taking away in a weird shot.

That's a weird shot, especially with the boy pat being on the episode today. But I'm saying, like you see, everybody who's played as long as they have in this game, and it's usually a punter, kicker, somebody on special teams that's made it that long and that far. But the

Up, Thank you. I don't think I think he's coming back. You think he's coming back, You think he's gonna pull Brett Farv.

I'll leave it at I don't know if he's gonna pull up. Yeah, actually, yeah, Tom Brady's gonna come back.

But I'll leave it at that. I think, I don't. I don't hate where your head's at.

I think as much as he's getting involved in the business world and stuff that he does from an entrepreneurial perspective, it's a weird connection.

Obviously, the Patriots. Mark Wahlberg is a huge Patriot.

Fan and not saying that they're working together, but the way that Mark Wahlberg is as an entrepreneur outside of being a movie star, I think Tom Brady is operating kind of in a similar fashion. I think he wants to get more hands involved, more involved himself personally and all the businesses and all the things that he has going on.

And then I could.

See as he does this throughout the off season, not be anywhere for OTAs, not being the summer, just be all in on the shit he's doing and make sure it's standing properly. I could see him coming back and obviously continuing to take over the world with everything he does.

The only thing is in the Man in the Arena show, he says he's like, I just can't imagine sitting on the couch and watching people on Sundays that I know that I can play better than and me being at home and not on the field.

That's a good pool.

I haven't watched that. That's a good pool JP that watch out. Hey, I'm into that. So that's where you're getting your That's why you think he's coming back.

Yeah, and hey, maybe he wants another Pro Bowl. Speaking of Pro Bowls.

It is officially announced that Roger Saffold, Harold Landry, and Jeff Simmons have all been added to the Pro Bowl with Kevin Byer.

That's huge news for the boys.

I think they're all deserving, but specifically speaking on Harold and Jeff, I think those guys should have been in the problem, especially Jeff. Jeff Simmons was a fucking snub from the get go, the fact that he wasn't a pro bowler off the jump.

But Harold, he had a very good season.

I hope any you know, Jay Robbie for listening, if any of the people in the higher ups are listening. With the Titans, we got to pay the boy, Harrol Lanser, we got to get that man his bag. But uh, Harold and Jeff Man. I was stoked that they got in. Obviously Roger, he's played for a long time. This is his first Pro Bowl, so stoked that they are. They're all in Vegas with Kevin Byrd, who I forget how many Pro Bowls he has now? Was a two, two or three?

Yeah he's been playing well man, Yeah, all Pro as well.

But that was phenomenal Championship weekend, dude, listen, the Bengals made it. We got to give him their flowers, we got to give them their respect. I'm surprised that they fucking made it too, like everybody else, but shout out to the Bengals. You know, I'm a huge Joe Burro fan. That dude has got to be the swaggiest player in the game right now. Him after the game, like, he's just got that vibe about I mean, you see everybody

I'm rooting for McVeigh Stafford.

The boys that were on the Washington staff when I played for Washington. That's on seems like mostly the offensive side of the ball with McVay out in Los Angeles. And also, I think it's dope that O'Dell gets cut. He's playing well now with the Rams. He's catching his groove. Von Miller got traded. My man was in tears getting traded away from Denver. Goes to a team and goes to a super Bowl. McVeigh proven a lot of people, proven himself right on going being all in and going

He got traded to the Rams. It was a huge headliner.

Detroit did him right by trading him to the Rams, a team one of the teams that he wanted to go to with a quarterback, you know, guru coach like McVeigh and just the offensive mind that he has. And you know, there are a lot of headlines like Stafford is he he's an elite level talent, but when it counts, does does he win those big games? Like there's times where he's crumbled in the big moments, but he has all these elite level stats during the regular season, Like

But that's another reason I want. I want the Rams to win. But that is.

The super Bowl. That is my super Bowl prediction. I'm saying the Rams I'm rooting for the Rams. What are you guys saying, JP, You're up first, Bengals are Rams.

I'm rocking the unpopular opinion. I'm going with the Bengals just because we saw that one dude on Twitter, the former marine was it. Yeah, he put together that super nice note about the boys, what it means to be a boy if he wanted the Bengals T shirt.

He was like, well that that was really fucking cool. So that was dope to see.

And then I'm pulling for Joe Burrow and Eli Apple, so I want the.

I don't think it's that unpopular. I think a lot of people want Joe and the Bengals to win. Like you got Zach Taylors their second year last year there two years ago, they won like two games.

Last year I think it was four, and they go to the Super Bowl.

Improve you know, they've kind of been like even though they were ranked what they were seated for, I believe, but everyone's thinking Titans. Well not everybody was talking Titans lot, but it was either Chiefs or Bills, right, But the Titans were always in the hunt.

I mean, they're the one seed.

They were fucking awesome and then you had the Bengals who were kind of like the dark horse, similar to the Niners, trying to make that push to the Super Bowl, which was it sucked that they lost and the boy Kittle lost. Hated seeing Debo in tears after the game on the bench. But I don't think it's that unpopular to root for the Bengals. I think that's somebody that's like the underdog, right, They're kind of the underdogs inderell story been winning game, do whatever it takes, and they

Had a lot of backlash.

And speaking of the shirts now, we were were making both shirts for the Rams and the Bengals, and they are fire.

You guys saw the Rams on that.

I'm picking the Rams by the way, what did you say? I said, I'm taking the Rams by my fault, bloss my fault.

That's what I need you to cut in, Like, hey, I forgot to mention the boy bloss. But the shirts. Have you guys seen You guys saw the text I sent this morning of the ramshirts. Those things are fire, right fire?

Yeah, the Rams shirts are are fire. I had to admit their fire.

Yeah. The Bengals ones still being worked on. We still need a couple. You'll see them today. It's Wednesday right now, so that we will be finalized today. But we're gonna be boosting those on the internet for everybody to go buy and purchase. If you're for the Bengals boys, you can buy them. If you're for the Rams boys, you can buy them. They're fire shirts. I know, trust me. I know it's fucking hard Titans fans. I know trust me, Like I say trust me, like, oh, you guys can

And we have fans that are in LA. We have fans that are in Ohio.

They made it very clear it was a Marcus Bailey, the linebacker fifty one, Marcus Bailey.

Shout out the boy, Marcus Bailey.

Now he was in my DM saying, Bro, you have fans on this team of busting with the boys like you gotta make the shirts like people in Ohio, you know they're all about the boys. Blah blah blah. But we are making the shirts, so go check those out. What else do we have? What else do we have? Super Bowl ticket giveaway? Taylor At this point you will have seen he posted a video. We are doing a Super Bowl ticket giveaway for the Big Game. We are taking care of expenses for hotel and airfare if you

The way to win is we will post it.

I don't want to say stuff right now and butcher it, but I believe we are coming up with a hashtag. You're taking a screenshot of being subscribed to the YouTube channel, and you got to take a screenshot of leaving a comment in this episode, right like we're gonna say the Pat McVie episode, leave a comment. Take a screenshot that you're subscribed. Take a screenshot that you've left a comment. It's not that hard. You're gonna use a hashtag I believe on Twitter to show that you did these things,

It starts with the bee Berkshire cramps.

Because you're supposed to be typing in fucking You're back there for Alex Rander. You're supposed to be typing on the computer now making me look stupid up here talking about Look at this.

Man says, you must not have been listening at the doctor.

I was listening.

I know it starts with the bee. Uh, but it's crazy, man. Her belly was up and I can actually see the kid. Man, I can see the little girl move around in the stomach. Not just feeling and feeling the kicks of stuff, but you can see her move around. And Uh, I'm stoked, man, I can't believe that I'm about to be a father. She's due at the end of March. March twenty seventh is a due date. But mom's good. The baby is perfectly healthy.

Right now.

Everything is smooth sailing, knock on wood. But uh, it's awesome. Man. We're in a we're in a cool spot. It's we're in the third trimester. We're getting to the end, and the boy's about to be a father. I think it's gonna be a rude awakening. No more dicking around, no more laying in bed for you know, minutes at a time, tens of minutes at a time in bed, fucking around on my phone. When I get up, I think I'm gonna have to wake up early. I'm gonna have to

But yeah, playtime's over. But I'm excited. Man. You guys are gonna help, right, Yeah, for sure.

Hey, you'll be able to celebrate Father's Day this year, that's right, man?

Oh hey, also stoked, all stoked, man. I don't think I no clue what I'm getting into. But about being a.

Dad, oh yeah, yeah, just being a dad, he said about Father's Day. All right, we are going to get into Pat McAfee. Dude, we finally had this man on. This was an incredible conversation. I think Pat was somebody who is obviously been on our buck list because of all the influence he's had on me on social media. Personally, I'm always watching what he's doing. And you know, because the Blue Princess success are always out there and you got you always find people that you kind of latch onto,

And he does all this incredible stuff for everybody else.

I think it's really cool that he got to sit on the bus and we got to listen to him talk talk about a story.

His journey tells stories. Dude is hilarious. Man.

Evan Foxy came beautiful young man. By the way, Evan fox that jawl line and the hair, the beard, the barber, Yeah, the barber. They got a barber in the house. Hey, that's fucking crazy, that's wild. That's when you know you've made it, but he's got blue contacts. I saw he's got a little bit of faked to him, kind of like my teeth. You know, I feel like I noticed blue contacts.

You have to put that in there. Just sow a subtle shot at Avam Foxy.

He's too perfect, man, He's gotta have some kind of a little insecure as I have my fake teeth sitting up here. He was scared of my feet and everything else being too white.

Oh man, I love it. But uh, I think it was really cool that he got.

To sit up here and tell us a lot of stories, man, And I think it was a really good episode that you guys will enjoy. Uh. We got it right from his Kipedia page, because this man does way too many things to try and just rattle off the top. But he's an American businessman. I think he might have put that in his wiki page. Sports Analyst podcast professional wrestler does color commentating for the WWE currently, but he's been on ESPN, Fox, He's been on all this stuff, dude,

And we dive into a lot of it.

We talk about whether this he started retirement, when it all started to come together while he was retiring, joining Barstool, breaking up with Barstool, his wife, the phenomenal job she does with further brand the dogs, shout out the good boys and girls out there, But we dive into a lot of it. You guys are going to enjoy this sepisode. I believe we're going to run an ad before this episode starts without further ado. Here's Pat McAfee. Oh, hang

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I am bummed. I know my Taylor, he called.

He's like, Bro, I'm so hype for you, and I'm so fucking jealous that I don't get to be there because obviously the divisional round this is Friday, January twenty first.

Taylor's got a big game to win. Tomorrow's got a big game to win. And the boy, you know, he's got a big matchup too against Hendrickson. So Hendrickson's got a motor strong too.

But hey, the boy's got a motor. Hey, that's what I've seen Vanesse. He's an athlete.

Yeah, he's an ass, a little bit freaking bend.

Yeah, but good wabble. He's rich dude for a reason. You know, he's fucking good. I'm miss I'm bum Tailor isn't here, but I'm excited to see you. The first thing I said to you, it's great to see you. Then then those are the whitest teeth I've ever seen in my entirely.

Yeah, yeah, it really are.

In real life, they are whiter. You look better than I could have ever expected. It's an honor to be here. Dude. I'm gonna blow smoke for a little bit.

I have to this. You're kind of you're kind of like a bucket list guess. And I'll tell you why.

When we started this thing, we're sitting on this bus, Like Bust with the Boys doesn't isn't in our minds, Podcasting isn't in my mind unless I'm listening to your shit. You're like, you're an a you're an athlete that turned podcaster. And obviously we'll get into all the media stuff, but

Out there, but your blueprint has been one.

That has influences Bus heavily, and I could not be more stoked that the boys on the honor Dude, it's an art.

And I remember whenever you guys were kind of starting, and I immediately became a fan, like immediately became a fan of you guys because I don't want to say there is numerous will comptence, because there isn't.

But I've met your type before. You know, the the high motor.

But you are hysterical, you are, You're very incredible. You have a great energy in aura about you, and Taylor Luan has the same type of thing. Your guys' energies together is a beautiful thing. So I've been a big time fan. So I'm lucky to be a tiny part in your eyes of this entire thing.

It's an honor beer.

I wish it was like seven thousand degrees like it was in the OG, right, I mean it wasn't the original.

You don't wish it was that back when you had to worry about the generator shutting off and the lights golf. It's like, all right, hang on, this happens at times we got to go. A train will come by, and by all right, everybody wait for a second.

Hey, but that's that type of grit that you guys have.

It is bro that people remember, you know, you do got to remind people that we came from the from the gravel like from the gravel bar.

I was in a basement for a while. I mean we were in the basement. We uh, we had actual ghosts I think floating around. I mean they were ship popping off. So this place is really cool. I got a chance to see it. By the way, you guys are crushing it. I'm incredibly pumped to be We're.

Growing a little bit. But yeah, I was selling Blosster before you guys pulled in. I was like, boys, you gotta remember we were gonna do a certain amount of episodes in the summertime because I finally we finally got in touch. We finally scheduled a call and we were facetiming and everything, and uh, I was picking your brain and you were saying, Bro, if you're gonna do it,

If you're gonna do it, do it and do it consistently. Oh that's dope. Well, that's that's a real thing.

And I think you know you guys, executing and being able to do that many shows is also a talent because a lot of people will get you know, burned out or sick of whatever they're talking about. But I think in the digital media space, and obviously, like you mentioned, there is many people before me, before us, before this whole thing, Dave, I mean Big Cat and Eric obviously joining wants the turn of money comes in, and then you look at Rogan and Simmons and there's people that

But I just think like.

Just showing up as a big part of this entire thing. Who I'm thankful you guys did.

Who was your So.

I'm sitting there talking about how you influenced our show. Who were people that kind of influenced you to start taking that started picking up that curiosity and being like, yo, I want to go this route of I don't even know if you thought about media at the time, or just like humor and just being you in front of everybody.

So I think like in locker rooms, I was always pretty good, you know, and I think I played soccer most of my life. Then I got into football, like my junior year of high school. But I always got along with basically everybody, like I was always pretty okay. In Pittsburgh, we always played football, So I played football growing up. I knew football, but I didn't play organized football.

But like this is the whole the thing.

So it just kind of all it just seems like it all just kind of fell into place. But it was never like the plan. When did the When was the seed planted for? Because obviously you had and we can dive into the stories too of the whether the falling out with the GM. I was kind of reading up on some stuff that you had, like that, dude did not like me. You did not find me.

You know, you took to Twitter as well on the GM right, I was after you fired, so I didn't.

I think it's bad ball if you bring negative attention to the team, like while the team is in season. Like I never did media you when I was in the season, and I would tweet or do anything. It was never like that would make the team look bad or like that was just never my thing. Like, first of all, I'm the fucking punter, so why am I I should not say anything about anything.

I could get anybody into trouble.

But whenever he came to Indianapolis, I was already a pretty well known I think I was like number two jersey seller at the time. Whenever he came in, I'd already done a comedy tour people don't and.

That's from comedy and Twitter.

Yeah, it's all from my Twitter account. Yeah.

And then Bob and Tom helped me out a lot because they're a big time low show and then they were a national show as well, but locally they knew me from there. So whenever he got to the team, I was a pretty well known person and I don't necessarily think he dreamt in his life when he becomes a general manager, like, oh, the punter is going to be somebody that is going to have a voice and be like somebody that the city likes. So he didn't

What kind of surgeries are you getting? So yeah, I had, you know, dislocated patella.

They had to move my patella back into place and then build it back up and obviously like meniscus and then some tears and some shit and yeah, it's just all the little minuscule shit. Yeah, but it was just a lot of things that were just kind of pointing me in a direction I think, like, oh, it's time to retire. You know, like this guy dounlike me, he got fired. I put out a tweet about it that did well. Then, you know, like I was on a team longer than him, But I had already made up

I feel like it's probably a lot more detailed than that back in the day. If if you have, if you have a better relationship with the gym, do you feel like, were you in the mental headspace of like you wanting to play ball so badly that you would have probably continued to play football and went to the knee surgeries or was it more of the injury route you had curiosity of stuff off the field. Just because I'm asking from a place of safe, I'm knowing what my.

Type of story is as well, Like, I feel like every and you had meetings and shit you had to go.

To right right, what do you what do you mean meetings like during the day? Yeah, oh yeah, I forgot.

I for I'm like, yeah, you get the fucking treustways, building board games and.

Shit, I didn't. I didn't do any of that. Like I didn't play bad and pong.

See now, I played a lot of cornall So I saw your little boards back there. I got pretty fucking good, Like I became uh, I mean I became a guy. Yeah, like pretty good because me and Overton would play Me and Matt Overton would play for like three out because

I'd love that.

I love being a part of a team. I was very lucky to be part of the NFL. I love the NFL. But I'd just be sitting there with like thoughts and ideas all day, just sitting there like God God like. So it was just like so many things, you know, like saying it's more detailed than that, I guess, but I'm like everything just seemed to line up.

It was like, yeah, it's time to move on now.

If I would have failed, I mean, we're talking about a much different story and me retiring after making a Pro Bowl and.

Being oh, buddy, you had what two years left on your deal? Yeah? And you could you know, you would have reup obviously. I mean you're what thirty four? Yeah?

I retired when I was twenty nine. Yeah, could have went a little longer. Vinent Terari was kicked when he was forty four or something like that.

He was my teammate.

Yeah, you could probably still be kicking now. I asked him so many times, I'm like, how are you still?

You know, like that competitive stamina, I have a lot of respect for yah, because punning is okay.

So I'm gonna go on the field when the offense fails. All right.

So at home games, I'm getting booed when I come on the field, and then in away games, I'm getting cheered for. And if we're down twenty one, there ain't a goddamn thing I could do.

But I'm just sitting there watching, like, hey, let's go boys, Like.

Let's get back in this because if we lose this game, the next four days are going to be miserable, Like everybody's miserable when you lose. It got to there was just so many things, you know, So I don't want to point to one thing, like the GM not liking me is definitely a part of the entire cake of like get me out of here, the days being Groundhog's Day with not a lot to do, and me having like seven thousand ideas like Oh, I want to do this, I want to do this.

I think I should do this, we think we should do this.

Oh but I'm here and I'm punning for period fifteen minutes and then I gotta wait and do this whole thing. It was just it felt like the universe was telling me, like, hey, let's go and do this thing.

I really, I really jive with when you're talking about being in being in the building and your mind just constantly like last year. You know, I'm not on the Titans now, but when I was on the Titans, I'm sitting there in meetings and I'm like checking my phone on the side of making sure blogs are going out or under the hoods, and in my head like I have my notes, so I'm taking for like all the linebacker stuff, all defensive stuff, all that kind of stuff.

Should we do this in the NFL doesn't deserve that either, right correct?

Yeah, Like I had that going on too, like somebody deserves this job, that this is a dream job for somebody, right, Like there's only thirty two punters in the league. I do not want this to be my full focus. And then we think the NFL deserves like your full focus, you know, like I'll take a paycheck, but also my teammates deserve me to be fully invested.

You I also take a young version of yourself once that too, because me, I'll get when i'm doing it. If I get kind of let down about doing it, I'm thinking about how much I wanted to play ball when I was the undrafted cat, the guy who you know was ready to die on the football field around all the boys. Like if I could have died that death, that's the most honorable death you could have had. Right back when you're brainwashing and thinking I want.

To funeral would have been dope, though.

Yeah, die young die hero, bro Listen, this dude died a fucking hero, Yes you see him.

Bust the wedge, this motherfuck.

Tourt All and caffeine just running through you. It's all you wanted to do. So when I'm like doing that stuff, I'm like, man, I'm not I'm not pouring into this the same way I used to.

And I feel like that's bothered me. Yeah, you know, in times I do.

It's a little conflict because I watched like Adam Vitteri and he has I'm gonna take some like three and a half hours just to kick on like a Wednesday, you know, his warm up routine to get his own body right, and he's like fully committed. He has people body gurus coming in at night that are just beating the shit out of his body for like three hours. I'm going home smoking so much, just chilling, having the time of.

My life and on the pantryon nighttime. Yeah, what's going on here? You know?

And then I go in and it's just like all right, it's obvious that I love the game, I love my teammates, but I don't know if this is necessarily the right thing for me anymore.

Yeah, but it's hard.

It's hard to cut free from the guarantee paycheck. There is pretty sweet.

Pay checks are nice, yeah, and just I mean, it's it's what you've done since uh you said, junior in high school. I mean, and it's what we've all done our whole lives, right, Like you go, you prepare for me. I got into the league at twenty three, but you've prepared twenty three years. Obviously you started like I started like second grade, but twenty three years of just being like I want to be in.

That felt full contact football in your lag.

We started helmet in fourth grade. Okay, I was a savage. We won't get into that. We only got right down.

Yeah, yeah, you're right, but uh, you know we're fucking head honey.

Whoah, I I was running back.

So aj Aj has this line, He's like, uh, you know, it feels like I was putt in a position where it's killed or be killed. So fucking everybody's got to die, I guess, says.

And that's how you guys actually think. It's actually how.

You's been twenty three years thinking I want to be an NFL player, and like this dream of being an

And I think it's natural for that to happen. I think, you know, for some people. But some of those a g motherfuckers, they're just like, hey, we're gonna run through the wheels fall off, like yeah, actually, And I'm like, well, what happens bring me off? The what happens when the wheels fall off? The whole figured out want to get there? It's like, I think that's gonna be a big figure it out whenever you get there.

But yeah, I think you know that now just because of the ship that you've been doing since playing ball, like.

So much more busy now. Yeah, it's unbelievable.

In being an entrepreneur like yourself, just the operation that actually goes into it. I think was has been eye opening for me, even with the just having one podcast show a week, like Busting with the boys and like having a team of fire.

You got a good team here, good mustache on cuz there got a good squad back there. I believe old cousin Becker's got his own little, own little business, right yeah, yeah, yeah on the internet.

Yeah, we're checking you guys.

Hey, he's fired up about you know.

I don't know him, but yes, I have seen him on the internet. He's a talented dude, right did. He loves making that stuff for the boys. Man, he's good, fired up. When I shared that one, he's really to Yeah, and I shared it too. I knew it was his work. Yeah, it was good work by him. I was gonna wait for you, though, wait for me on what to share it? Oh, to share it?

Yeah, And then I was like, I'm not one of my.

Guys waiting for you to share it, and I was like, all right, I'll share. And I think I told you, like, hey, i'll post this immediately after fast on or whatever.

I invited him to be a collaborator and didn't tell him that's not all I'm just gonna invite him.

Just fuck it like CVCS in the middle of the show too.

This motherfucker's like, hey, I'm in the middle of something, dude, I understand the life.

I was like, hey, I got you right us and this show's over.

Got yeah, but it was you got a good squad down here. And I think that's a big deal too. I got very lucky and like it's an honor for you to say, like, hey, you're a piece of our whole thought there. Because I'm doing a lot of these interviews with these motherfuckers that have no idea what we do, right, these old school media folks. Yeah, and especially after the FanDuel deal was announced, there's a lot of people that are interested, right, like one.

Twenty million dollars. Man, Hey, let's the boys, baby, that's only one company and one partner. But let's that's stupid. It's too much money. It's way too much money.

But trying to chitchat with people that are from the old school media world, you know, who just are like, oh, yeah, we'll just go to the internet. Like we'll just go to the internet. We'll start doing it. It's like, okay, yeah, you'll just go to the internet. I've seen you know, I take I don't. I get along with most people,

I want to know.

Whose feels disrespected, Like the Titans fan base is the most we are disrespected in the league fan based on Earth. So anytime I talk about the Titans, I have to remind people like, hey, this team feels as if they're getting fucked in a conversation piece about everything, Like that's just like kind of my style. So I live on my phone. I'm on my phone full time trying to

And I'm like, okay, yep, I think.

So they're gonna have to hit a home run with the people that they have working around them. Like Fox, he's one of the best editors I've ever seen in my entire life, and he can do something in ten minutes where it's like editing in the past takes like a big long time and it's like sometimes you have to give up what your dream of what something looks like, just to get something out in time. And it's just

Come about? Aren't they like longtime friends some of them?

Yeah? So like Diggs grew up on the same street as me. He loves the boy.

Hey, yeah, shut out all the boys too, by the way, Yeah it was Hi Boston.

Tone Lord C D. Diggs. AJ.

Hey, can we get an AJ changip going AJJ?

Yeah, you gotta add HOWK in there because there's a lot of AJ's.

There's only one motherfucker a J Hawk AJJ Hawk Hawk. He's getting you guys. He had a boy get a last one in there. Yeah, and that's good in an.

Arena too, you know, to be that the last one who was screaming.

I do.

This is SmackDown shows every Friday night, and there's always like two to three that are like, yeah.

You know, I'm gonna get that little bonus yell in.

Uh.

AJ is awesome. Yeah.

AJ and I we never played on the same team together. I was supposed to go on the Hawk Cast while I was playing, he had followed me on Twitter, so I think him and Aaron found me on Twitter at one point because that was pretty active on Twitter. Nobody really knew about me. I didn't do any media ESPN NFL. Nobody was really Like I remember back in the day seeing like Biz.

Who I love.

I followed Bisz very long time. Bro fucking love his mustache. Right now working with Wayna. I mean he is, He's the fucking man. Fucking love Bizz.

But Biz was in the run there back in the day, is like the Twitter, the professional athlete Twitter account, right, And then Ocho was doing his thing in Cincinnati where he was doing his whole thing, and I thought I had a pretty good Twitter account, Like I thought my tweets were pretty solid, like hey, but wasn't getting a lot of you know, I wasn't getting a lot of pub It was kind of just like an organic grow,

I'm like, yeah, cool man, I'm excited, like I'm pumps.

Because he went to Centerville High School, which is where my holder from college went. So he's from Ohio. We all know what a white Ohio guys like, yeah, yeah, exactly. We all know they're all the same. Every Ohio person is the exact same. So I knew we'd probably get

Right there to do the interview or whatever. We didn't know each other at the time.

We didn't reconnect until like two years later, and we h it was at the Barstoo tailgate show at Ohio State and it was our first show.

We were staying at some frat and AJ was supposed to come on.

He was the local guest for the Barstol tailgate show, and uh, we hit it off pretty quickly. I mean we had quite a day, and then we got a chance to do the Laces Out podcast with Jerry Thornton and ever since, every time we get on a microphone, it's pretty good because he is just he's Ohio. He's completely Oh, he's a smart ass. He's a toxic, super toxic, super toxic, so like that's I met him on Twitter. The boys came through an internship announcement. Whenever I retired

What started was you and AJ you had something kind of going on.

No, I was doing shit before by myself, and then like when I retired, I was gonna build my own app.

So yes, I came across it.

I was gonna build my own app, and I was just gonna charge like a buck a month, and I was just gonna put out podcasts and shit. I'm like, ah, this is cool. And then I'll go on tour because I'd already done a like two tours. I think I already had like thirteen shows under my belt in theaters where I would rent the theaters and sell the tickets myself, so like I already knew the business side of it pretty good. And I was like, oh, fuck it, I'm just gonna go do that or whatever. And all my

Like I learned all that from the bar so like I got really do them as a business university.

Yeah then you're talking, Yeah yeah, Pat, Pat mentored Pat was mentoring me when we were going through all that stuff with Barstool and everything else, and you referred to them.

Yeah, so, I mean you a lot of good stuff.

I was, you know, surprised given that you guys had broke up, but I didn't know much about it.

Oh yeah, it was just like business stuff, you know, Like it was like I think personally, I don't know, no, I just because we're in Indiana, so like I didn't want to move to New York. So we were in Indiana and we would go we didn't really know, we didn't really know everybody. We didn't really know everybody. Like we go over with chat with a couple of people. Like That's why I fucking love Caleb, Like, I think Caleb is one of the smartest, most brilliant, hilarious individuals

But shit was fly.

I mean, it was going very quick and we're seven hundred miles away or whatever the fuck it is.

Just that's why I don't think.

I don't know and I don't know how everybody feels over there, but like I got nothing but respect for the people over there. It was just like some business stuff that was happening that's probably gonna take place whenever your five states over just with how quick everything is. Yeah, I finally got to the point where it was like, I've already run my own business before I retired. I didn't retire to like kind of guess on what's going to happen. I'd rather just kind of do it myself

So what what what number was everybody coming in? Like like Tone digs. Tone quit his job the day I retired and enjoined you. He was with you since day one.

Yeah, and told me he was drunk whenever he did it because that was on this motherfucker it was Super Bowl week. Tone, Tone is awesome. Tone grew up on my street. He grew up at the top of the hill. You know, the Italian did okay bit sid Pie. Yeah, but he he and I had chatted. He's always been hilarious, Like Tone has always been a very hilarious human being. Yeah, he's a good salesman though. So he was selling like credit cards and all this shit back in Pittsburgh and

I'll do it.

I'm like, all right, Tone, all right, I bet or whatever. And then the night I retired on Comedy CenTra or whatever, he screenshoted the email he sent he said.

I quit. He just he's like, I quit, and he came out and enjoyed. It was like it was awesome.

And my other friend Nick Baroda, the other pieson, I've been friends with him since high schoold. He grew up on the same street. He grew up on the other side of town. But he uh same thing. He was like, if you do it, I'll quit or whatever, and then that night they were like, all right, fuck it, we quit. Let's go ahead and do this all the night.

You're retired.

Yeah, fuck man and everybody else you said you were saying you found through like internships.

Yeah, whatever. We made the announcement for the first batch of interns. They all came through. We had a lot of people, too many people, too many people.

I'm not good.

I'm not good at that and what Like, I'm so impressed with what Barslow's done because how big they got with how many fucking people they have, right, and all these other companies as soon as they get money, you see them just start like adding and adding and adding and adding and adding people. And I guess that makes you bigger, so people think you're worth more. Like I'm

Just I don't know.

For me, I'm better with ah, I can't do a lot of people. I need a smaller group that's like, hey, I'm not I don't I don't know. I just I'm not great at people, Like if they're not all in you know, like so like it's naturally gonna happen that there's gonna be beefs and clicks whenever there's a lot of people and it's like, I don't like fucking that, Like I don't fucking like that, Like stick with your squad. Yeah, Like, hey, we're we're kind of all in here, we're like minded.

Yeah, yeah, no doubt. How was your relationship with Dave changed since all that went down?

Like was it was it one of those relationships where it was like rocky when it all went down, and then through time everybody's just kind of like, you know what by guns, we by guns were boys.

I just got nothing but love for him. And I might be just oblivious to this, but I think me and Dave always been cool. I honestly, I don't through the breakup, I think so.

Yeah. I mean I'm making that I'm making up that energy because it's just I've just scanned some of the stuff.

No, I think he understood like what happened there was a couple because I was in a rev share, right, So like if a deal gets pulled out of my office for the New York office, like that's direct money pulled out of our office.

Wasn't It wasn't like a team effort rev share.

It was like if you pulled something and then they might have pulled something that was bigger, it would overshadow yours and then you would lose yours.

No, it's like whatever we generated, it was just a revshare like classic internet. You know, Okay, whatever our office generates, if we get you know, people sponsors that want to come on. If our podcast gets sponsors and we make money, it's a rev share where they're guaranteeing a certain amount of money. So there was some new people that were added, I think in the business side of things that maybe didn't understand the deal, or know the deal, or have

You know? No?

I was a fucking there's It makes no sense why I'm popular. It makes no sense at all, none. And I couldn't even imagine being a salesperson that just got hired to barstool that is thinking to themselves, Okay, I'm gonna go sell. Am I gonna sell like maybe the smartest, funniest person ever exists PFT commenter? Or Am I going to go try to sell this punter in Indiana that I've.

Never met before? So I think like stuff like that was starting to happen, and.

Then we would have a deal and then for some reason or be a confusion, it would be gone all of a sudden. I'm like wholl like, this is directly my money now, like that that our company is like earning or whatever. So I think it was just things that were lost in translation, and whenever I explained that

He's a good guy.

So Lewis became one of the only people we talked to at the off, like literally one of the only humans we talked to on a day.

To day basis.

So Lewis I get He started a rose company and he asked me if I wanted to invest in it, and I was like, cool, I'll invest in it.

Who's all investing in it? And he told me, I have you know?

And he said Barstool was investing in it, Dave was investing in it, some other people were investing in it. Do you want to be part of I'm like, yeah, this is why I retired, Like yeah, I would like to get into companies I'd like to do.

It's like, yeah, this is fucking awesome. Here we go. And then when we launched it, I.

Was Dave was not invested in it, I guess, and barstool Barstool is not invested in it at all, and I'm like, holy shit. And Dave was like, I have to fire you. And I'm like, you're firing What do you have to fire me for? He was like, well, you're you're directly trying to undercot me or something. And

I think we have I don't know.

I have the ubmost respect for the business he's been able to build in the way he's gone about doing it, and his work ethic is fucking stupid too, So I think we've always had respect for each other.

I think I'm not arm century. He would have to ask him, but I think he.

I think he said on one of his shows that you guys had were in talks for a second, potentially with the sportsbook before you went obviously You're you're a huge deal onced you guys ever talk about the barstol of sportsbook and bringing getting you back in some capacity and not back.

But oh yeah, so there was a show too, like towards the end of there, I you know, I thought me and Dave, if we had a show together, would do well, Like I thought it would be pretty big. And at that point, Serious Too was trying to figure out what they were trying to do, and there was a Barstool radio deal and Serious only had one person there paying, and Howard it was like, how long is

And then one thing, I don't know, it didn't end up working.

Right, we're supposed to do business together, and then we do that Barstool Tailgate show and we had good chemistry together, like literally I thought it was like a good show. And I enjoyed being around him like I enjoyed like I enjoyed him as a human. He is fucking hilarious, Like what a ridiculously hilarious human. We were in Iowa and he said that the pizza at the gas station

That's good pizza. Now, well, Iowa, I'm starting to put it together. We were talking about Casey's here boys.

Yeah, but that was like a moment where like, I it's just I have a lot of respect for him, and I mean, I didn't sell my company to Fandel.

I'm very thankful for Fando partnership.

They let us, you know, they let us do a lot, Like it's really cool and we can pitch ideas and they can tell us yes or no, but ultimately they don't own us.

So like we are still trying to win and are still trying to win. Yeah, you know.

So it's a cool relationship. It's been a lot of fun, but it's it's a three four year deal. Fandel. Who knows what the future looks like for anybody in this space. I think there's gonna be Act West right now in the there's so much money. I think there's gonna be acquisitions though, you know, and let alone the platforms that are coming into play. I mean, Amazon's got the NFL rights. They have so much money. What are they going to want to do?

Right?

You know?

So who knows? Who knows what the future looks like. There's a we had a fan question. This is appropriate from Elliott Hooper. Dave said he taught Pat everything he knows about gambling.

Is this true?

And Dave has been there. There's been a clip this went around. I've seen it recently too, where he's like, I taught that man everything so gambling.

So that was that first, that Barstool Tailgates show. We were traveling around and he was gambling, and I had never gambled before in games. I grew up around Italians, so I knew that it happened, but I didn't know who were why. We would pick those college games and I would just pick the teams just because of the names or how I wanted to say the name, like.

Yeah, I was like, how do I want to? I knew nothing. I have no idea why any of these teams will win, how they won't.

But Dave was like winning there, you know, he was winning and I'm like, okay, cool, yeah, hey, I want to bet alongside you, like this will be my first experience, you know, because watching him like either sweating or experience. I'm like, yo, I would like to feel that about a game that I do not care about, you know, like I would I like, you know. So I was like, go ahead and I'll just ride alongside you. And he's

All to do that.

And then he told me the amount of money it was and I was like, holy shit, I am not are you kidding me? And he was like it was a lot. It was a lot of It was a lot of money. It was a good amount of money. And I was like I can't, no way, I can't do that. He was like, well, what are you gonna do? And I was like, I'll do like I forget it. I forget I said, like a half or whatever. So then he was doing one hundred and fifty percent then because his max now and I was picking up either

Of money there. I mean, there was no way, and it was like, I can't do that.

I am so sorry. I felt so bad. I still feel bad about that. I mean now he owns a book, so I mean he's.

Gotta He's definitely about losing like five hundred thousand on certain like during a bet before.

We were watching some who Gives a Fuck game I remember, and we were in this it was, uh, maybe like a frat house. No, it was just a house I think in Virginia Tech. And they had these TVs set up. It was hilarious. It was they had these wires going in from everywhere and the Wi fi. It was a college house. So these games were coming and going. And these were two teams that I I mean, I couldn't even tell you their names right now. I don't even think I knew their names and their plan.

He had.

A grotesque amount of money on these things, and he was getting actually upset, and I'm like, you don't even know the kid's fucking name, Like, who knows what that kid did?

That kid's playing it, Who gives a fuck university.

I mean, there's reasons that kid could have been drunk for the last seventy two hours, that kid could have done any of these things, and to have all that money riding on it, I was just so fascinated by it.

But yeah, he is.

I mean, he has to be one of the most legendary massive gamblers in the history of gambling, and it is partially my fault, and I do I do.

I do feel very very bad about that.

I do. I've apologize to him numerous times about it too. So is he the one responsible for teaching you how to gamble?

I mean he got me into it at this point, though I found my own couple grooves, you know, I've found my own things that But yeah, I mean he was my first real batminteur. He was my first baptism I'll say yeah to sports gambling and mentor yeah, that would be a good one too.

And we won.

I mean he was winning there for a bit. But I don't know how he's putting that much money on these kids that I had never heard of, and we never heard from the game. We never heard from these kids again. Right now, we have no idea where those kids are. Those kids are selling something somewhere. And he had the amount of money he had, Yeah, and these kids.

It was just mind blowing. But yeah, it was awesome. It was cool. And you know, now he's a book that's insane. I know that really is. It's been incredible, like being with them, what has it been two years? You need water? You want water? Yeah?

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Hey, trust me, you're just sitting there talking. I kind of see the radio. I'm like, Man, how fucking high is pat right now? All day? Every day?

Man?

Mostly, I mean you have to be you know, I have to be. I uh, I enjoy that. I enjoy the marijuana. You an edible guy or what? Yeah?

Whatever, yeah, just whatever. Yeah, I'm hoping to get into that business pretty good.

I think you're in that business.

I'm gonna try to. I enjoy doing that type of stuff, I hope. So I know you probably already know. You know, you probably got some boys already in business, so you're probably taking.

Care of no.

So that's that's the thing. Like I travel for SmackDown so much. So whenever we go to a state where it's legal out head directly, I mean we are talking A to B two dispensary, and in these legal places, it is so awesome. Like this Mend company, they fucking got it. They are like the Apple Store of dispensaries.

Hey, what are you doing?

I'm gonna go get hot's fuck right down there. It's a cafe, it's right on the street. And then I got these they got these weed drinks.

Oh I haven't had the I haven't dabbled in a weed drink.

Oh, so I can chug drinks again, you know, And it's like taking me back to outer space. It's pretty it's pretty cool, man. It's it's I really enjoy the business out of bit. I think all right, so through through transition with barstool. You're you're essentially climbing you.

This is smart.

What we got the topics? Oh yeah, the boy, the boys, Alex smart man. This is really, this is a really this is a smart build. I'd say a well oiled machine. Yeah, I think it is. That's really smart. I can't do that stuff. I can't have something staring at me.

You just fucking talked the whole time, just right there, arms crossed up, moving around, You just talk the entire time.

Yeah, it's just like we have a paper I guess with some Does that not exhaust you? Yeah?

A fucking day, bro, pretty long? Yeah, pretty long days and we'll part of pretty good motor.

Yeah. What are what are the called America's hardest working man? Yeah?

I mean that's not there's no bullshit, not as much as Boomers. Who's that exactly? That's that's a great question.

Are we talking boomer like okay boomer?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, we are okay, Yeah, he's uh, he's uh, he was on a quarterback, he's on CBS.

He's one of the that's hilarious. You are hilarious, dude.

That was bringing up bring it up well worth I didn't know who Boomer was until we started saying Boomer is the hardest working man. After after the deal got announced publicly, you know, like I too many people reached out to me, Like too many people reach out to me, and we're way too nice, Like people were so cool, and I tried to answer everybody, and.

That is that is fact too, because you ended up getting back to me probably seventy two hours later.

But you kind of just know the dude's probably getting bombarded.

I legitimately tried. I didn't sleep. I try to answer everybody back. And you were very nice, by the way. I appreciate you doing that. But a lot of people said, like, wait till you hear who you hear from. You know, like all the people you thought were like people are gonna say your family now that they know how much money you have or whatever. It's like okay, But once these people started reaching out to me, I was like

Okay, guys, are you working guys boomer.

A sias and because I think that's the biggest shot you can take it me Like, honestly, it's the only thing I think I'm really good at, is what working.

Oh, Like, I'm just gonna go.

You'll talk about your you appreciate your your appreciation videos, like you know, you'll see all the appreciation of the gratitude, but you also see behind it, you remember an everything. I feel like you remember everything that anybody has said. Yeah, that's kind of tried holding you back, but you just behind that that little smile, you're kind of speaking to them too.

Huh, the smilest you know what I'm saying, the smilest kind of for them. Like here I am now talk.

About a lot of people. Yeah, when they lay their head down a night and their pillar talking with themselves. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cool. Those are cool moments too, Those those people really cool. Yeah, because I'm so appreciative.

You're thinking everybody, but you're thinking, hey, all you motherfuckers.

That was saying some shit too.

Now, there was a lot of people in my life that weren't in that video, you know, and they saw

I'm an idiot.

You know this.

Though you're in the NFL, like the fucking highest level, there's some shit that happens where you go like how is this the NFL? Like you know what I mean, there's a lot of that stuff. And then once you start peeking your nose and like seeing every place, you're like how is this? You know, like you start like

You know.

So it's like I think, as I've.

Gotten older, I've realized that, like everybody is just kind of their own smart and mostly dumb and a lot of other things, and you're just figuring it.

All out along the way. Yeah, and you're wrong and quicker.

Yeah, and if they're wrong, like it's cool. Like if they thought I was going to be an idiot, which I am, like they were probably right at the time.

You know.

So I'm starting to get a little bit more mature, mature you're like, hey, yeah, I feel yeah, yeah, I think so.

When you're like when you're going into all these different issues, because bro, you do in the beginning where you're just doing a couple of podcasts a week, what was the show like in the beginning? Were you daily from day one or not?

Obviously not one? How many times? Three times a week? Anywhere on Monday, Wednesday, Friday? I think you're Monday, you were three times a week?

Then you obviously dabbling college football all the hardes America's hardest working MANSA Fox sports, espn WW, You're wrestling, you're commentating, you're doing all of these different things, bro, and you're fucking You're like a Swiss army knife at the highest level in all of these avenues.

No, no, no, I hang on, hang on. I know that you're very You're very humble. You're very humble.

Everyone watching know that understands your story, which is a lot of people understand the humility that you bring with yourself. I know you're humble, But me talking my interview, I'm asking the questions this guy thinks all of these like do you feel like you've got to uh, sort of reinvent some things about yourself when you're leaning into all these different industries because you got a personality you're wrestling.

I'm like, I mean, obviously this Adam Cole things fake, right? Whoa this is?

Oh? I hate that the call was the stumbbag, the push in the in the studio when it's kind of happened and you it wasn't known that you were going to wrestle, but it's like they're setting this up for fun.

Whoa, whoa what colitis? Dude? Still from that day? Is it is it is to sit on? Is it like knowing?

Okay, I'm gonna have to kind of invent myself this way for this moment of time.

Now I just went in Rome, Dude. I literally that's literally how I think. Like I love that. Yeah, I feel like there's more of a question that I'm asking to you. But it's a question I'm asking with myself to Hey, look at that little introspective Yeah, look at you.

Dude.

We're having a moment right now. You're we are a high one. Yeah. I know you said you're asking questions for yourself. No all, is it all?

No, dude, I'm like, oh, this is great. No, but it's real though, Like I don't know. I do stuff like just because I think it's like cool, Like I want to do it.

I want to try it.

I think I'm okay, Like if it comes to brain and speaking, I think I can get to it. I think at some point I can give it a go. I'm not going to be at an elite level. Yeah, I'm saying, of course, come back, dude, I mean what that should have been? How about social distancing too. This in the middle of a pandemic. This guy's pushing people. That's unbelievable.

Bad guy. Okay, obviously I'm worried. What goes wrong with that guy?

What a moment, dude, two point four to seven five million speak Holy shit, I didn't seen that video in a long time. Hey, good for that video. You're all over on the Utah.

It's wrestling. Wrestling. Wrestling is big on there. It's also nice.

So when I do wrestling, I feel like I'm dabbling into a different group, right, and we do and we do college game day. I think you're doing a different group there when you do get up, you know, I think you're doing a different group there people, And you also can do different things like when I do.

Get up, it's awesome.

It's just like, all right, I can just turn this up to four thousand, right, you know, because that is what they're trying to do. And it's in the morning show. It's like I have a take and I am right than everybody else, you know, And that is what it is. So it's a fun like I don't say like it's like a fun thing to do, Like I enjoy doing it, Like game day whatever they had me just basically like just bring energy whatever you do, like okay, like I

It feels like yeah, And.

When I did comedy that one time, like I think, like I won't do that until I'm only a Comedian's only a comedian because I watched like Chappelle and Burr and I'm like, all right, I should never get on a stage again.

Okay.

From the way that they piece it together, the delivery, the story, the courage, the mission, everything they do is just so good. I'm like, I should never do that again. That happens with some of the other stuff I do, and you'll see me not like kind of drift away from it. It's like I should stop disrespecting this thing, you know, Like commentating for WWE is probably not going to be forever because although I I feel like I'm doing good, like my way is not a.

Way that is sustainable in that particular avenue, which.

Is just how much over the top of ep So once I feel like my welcome has worn out, that's normally when I disapprove.

Yeah, but I have a pretty good run.

And there's some things I stink at though that Like I'm like, I don't fully understand why people are okay.

With me, Like what doing this? Like the resting commentating there. I was terrible. I mean I was.

I was real bad as a fan of the product I watched, like my entire life, I was not good. I wasn't doing like what you were supposed to do. But people liked it because it was different, you know. But then as the people get past the oh it's good because it's different, fact, they're gonna start like actually judging me, Like if like so I had to like get kind of good and I'm not to prepare Yeah exactly. Nah, it seemed like you prepared a little bit.

Well that's interesting.

How do you prepare, you know, because I'm you prepare all day every day, right, I mean you have to prepare all day. Every day I'll read something I'm like, oh, that would be great for SmackDown. And then or I'll read something on Twitter. I'm like, oh, that'll be dope for like a vlog, or that'll be sweet for something in the office.

You know, it's just like all day. I think that's the Internet. You're just kind to prepare all day. But yeah, you're like making it.

I'm stinking a lot of things though, but I get a good welcome buzz because I'm much different than whatever the fuck was?

Right, what if you enjoyed out of all the different things you've dabbled in everything, Well, what if you like, what if you could pick a couple what would you lean into if you could?

I love my Daily Show? Look you do the Yeah, the Daily Show is yours.

I'm talking like the get up the color commentary on a like commenting for a football game. Okay, like stuff like that college game day on Saturdays, like stuff that you're not you kind of just dabble in, like you said, drift away. What are a couple of things that you would like to go lean back in if you the opportunity presented itself.

So, like, I don't know, if the opportunity you ever present itself with anything either, you know, Like that is something that's interesting because the people that are running a lot of these things don't necessarily.

Like get me, but they know that people do.

So that's an interesting thing too, Like I don't know why people like you, but we know that people like you, and I'm like me neither, you know, like.

I don't really understand it either. So that's an interesting thing.

But like game day was the perfect that's wrestling in football, right, you know, So that was that was like crowd got a chance to talk to the crowd, got a chance to play with the crowd.

Jump in the fucking water.

Hey what if there was a lug? Have we thought about that? I did not, even because they told me late that it was not deep enough. But by that point I had already I'm going Not a lot of people knew. I don't think a lot of people knew that I was going to do that. I'm not sure the audio people knew, because I had a full pack on. I don't think the uh, I don't think the camera

Where's the pontine going to be there? Like right over there.

I'm like, I'd called a game at Baylor before and did a shot on the pontoon, and I was like at the game, I was thinking, Oh, I should go off the roof of this thing for sure, Like how many times do you get to do that?

Like that would be dope.

And then when game day happened, I think Foxy was with me and maybe Zito was with me, and we were sitting there, I'm like, I'm going off with that fucking pontune for sure, and I think Cedo was like, oh, like you know.

I got a little bit of uh cause, a little bit of thing.

So I think somebody had heard, you know. And that person was really cool. I forget her name. She was just there for a couple of weeks, but she she was like, do you want me to go ask if it's deep enough? And we're like, yes, that's something I would have never thought of. I would have just assumed if the boat's in there, right, it's got to be deep enough.

But she was like, I'll go ask.

So she goes and asks, and while I'm walking to the boat, She's like asking the person as I'm getting close, and then he says, no, it's not deep enough. And then she says, no, it's not deep enough, like to me as I'm getting on the boat, and it was like, hmm, I.

Think I got a go. Yeah, I think I'm gonna take the change. I think I still gotta go.

Yeah.

But the water was not see through. It was a river.

I could have died. I could have impaled myself. But that would have been fucking like you's going out on the football field. Could you imagine if I would you went out, I went out doing a belly flopping into the brassas on college.

That'd be get pretty good views. That'd get more than Adam Cole. That will get some fucking views. But you die, you die young, you die, hero bro.

I didn't think I was gonna live long anyways, but that would have been a wild way. I didn't even think of that happening. By the way, my wife was the one that told me afterwards. She was like, did you could have been a fucking log that just impaled you there? I'm like, there could have been.

Huh, yeah, do you talk about your wife for a minute, because obviously we talk about all this shit you do, and I know, you know, God bless my wife too, Like she puts up with me just you know, being on the phone or not being present at times and stuff like that.

Yeah, like all the ship that you do.

How badass does your wife have to be in this whole entire situation.

She holds it down, man, She is awesome. She is really, like because I.

You know, I get sick of me a lot, Like I get sick of me, like I I don't know how anybody does. Like I can't listen to our shit much. I can't do it. So like being around me has to be a lot because I'm normally like this pretty much.

All the time, you know, like just how you do and keep it moving like let's uh.

Like really, what are we even worried about anything for Like, let's just keep it going like this whole thing, so I can be a lot I think to a lot of people, I'm not easy to be around. I don't think like on a regular basis. So she's like one of the first people in my entire life that is like just like cool with me, like like she just like understands me. We smoke together a lot. She holds

And that's the first dog that I've like, we've had like a you know what I mean, moments connected like the first dog in my life. Yeah, so she got cancer.

She got diagnosed with cancer, and we took her to we took her to a doctor or whatever, a vet, and the price to get the treatment was like six thousand dollars or something like that, and they don't have insurance for that. And I was like, holy fuck, like, obviously we're gonna pay for that. We're gonna do that because I love this dog. But if this was me growing up or my wife growing up, like, there is

Now she's the best. Dude, How old is she.

Tough?

Was that a tough question? Okay, she's getting up there, she's living forever. That dog is gonna live forever.

But yeah, that is I've had I've had a couple of moments where I thought she was gone, though, you know, I guess she was going in for the cancer surgery or whatever, you know, and it's like I was very worried about her.

But yeah, that's what my wife. My wife's the best.

I'm happy you brought her up because she's also funnier than me. She is, she's the unsung hero, bro. Hey, she she holds it down. I mean, everything would be my house an utter disaster, right, I mean I listen.

Sometimes I see the videos. I'll know, I'll know she's recording you and stuff.

I'm like, I wonder how, I wonder what it's like, you know, to be her every day, just being around fucking pat especially when you guys are fucking on the road.

Back when you were on the road, like it seemed like all the fucking time traveled with us.

Though she travels with she she'll take some of the trips, but yeah, she's And then you go on vacations and sometimes you gotta you gotta do something mid vacation.

I just put it in my own in my own life too, with my wife and stuff, and I'm just like, oh man, that'd be hard to kind of navigate.

Hey, maybe I know we're on this vacation and get away from work, but this big opportunity is happening right now.

Yeah, but like you know, those vacations are good forever, right, which I think like she is cool with too, you know, yeah, like we all understand, like like there's an opportunity here that not a lot of people have. Yeah, and I don't know why it's happening. I don't know how long it's gonna happen. Uh. And future life's gonna be dope, you know, And that's kind of like that's not in current life is cool too, Like we get a chance

She loves it.

It sounds like a tailor Taylor's wife. They're big in the animals. They'll have, like, you know, all all different kinds of animals too. It's like a goddamn farm out there at their house at times. And Taylor back, oh we got three more ducks, dude, Like she saw him at AH. She saw the contractor supply and we had to get the ducks. Man, if we could get ducks, she would. I think, Yeah, they're building like little animal houses out there and stuff. She was feeding the raccoon.

Dude. I mean, you know, like she it is.

She is a very cool spirits. I'll say, she's right, nothing like anything I've ever met before.

She's awesome.

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It will be one for the history books. So what is the what's the big vision?

Man? What do you see long term? You probably it's all over. You're going with the flow. I know you know this, that and the other that you've been expressing. But what is the long term goal?

What do you see with the boys?

I don't know.

I am just going with flow though, and that I think that's an interesting thing for people because, and I said this in the video, a lot of people, like super chess players, you know, like they're thinking they move out close to Silian you know what I mean, Queen's gambit, dude up on the fucking ceiling. You know, people were doing that. That's what every booming out, Hey man, this is what we got to do this and if we do this, we do this. And I think I do,

Us a lot.

But in I mean, sixty nine thousand people lost the bet last weekend because.

I saw that.

Man, that's tough, just taking them into the water with you, and they didn't come back. Nobody came back. Man, Yeah, I was so hey, man, that would have been so cool. Oh my god, the celebration after that would have been insane.

I would have you could have told me nothing on that next show if sixty nine thousand people would have hit one bet a parlay that was plus one thousand two, Like I mean, I would have been, oh my god.

Anyways, we lost you love down I did, dude. It was the ref. It was the ref will always the fucking raft too, bro. Ah it is They need to get that ship fixed. They really do.

Hey, I think players are more vocal about this because we realized, like how much gets fucked by.

Some wrong calls.

Bro. I think so, Like I'm very loud about it on a regular basis, Like, Yo, these refs need to fucking tighten up.

We need to figure this out.

We need to allow technology to help these fucking dudes who have no idea what they're doing.

Obviously, are you allowed on your daily show to have these refs specific refs?

Come on? I would have lost the music. I think that's what a lot of people want to do. It's a little accountability.

Yeah, players got to go to press conferences right after losing, right after some emotionally driven but these refs they.

Just get to skate on bed there, how lesson.

We are not saying you should throw anything at these refs, No, no, no, we're we'd like some answers.

Yeah, we were just like a whole conversation and like you.

Said, accountability, some ownership in making a fucked up call and being like I fucked up.

Yeah. Yeah, anyways, I hope we get that fixed someday. I do too.

But it was not a grand vision, like I'm just we're just living man, I'll probably I want to be a professional golfer some day, Like we'll probably get into the golf content.

Uh fifty one. Hey, he's gonna make it. I think so too.

He's gonna make it. And the four play guys that were all super nice to us. I'm fucking very happy. I think that show is crushing. They are such good. They were always very very nice to us. That was like very nice of them. But no, we're just doing the show man, just doing the show. Who knows, Like if.

You're thirty four with like the most watched sports show on the internet, and it's like, you gotta have something cook and I know there's really a day where I'm up to something comes back out on the internet.

And by the way, when that there's the fuck out of me, especially like a hey what you got cooking? See?

But when that goes up, that's literally when I find out like, oh, this is all right, this is what we're doing, you know, because ideas will cook, like there will be seeds that'll be planted, you know where like if we had the opportunity to do this, this would be cool. And then maybe six months later, maybe eight months later, maybe a year and a half later something happens and it's like boom, Okay, we had that idea, let's go ahead and do that.

Now we can roll it. So then that's when the I'm up to something starts.

And then it's it had been probably talked about before, but we just found the either the time to do it or the proper home for it to live, if that makes sense.

Yeah, Like I want to get I want to do live shows. I want to do live shows bad, like go on the road, Yeah, real bad. I was border around the country.

Yeah, I don't know about how often, but I want to see the people that have really could be seasonal, Yeah I think quarterly maybe, Yeah, Yeah, I think that's right.

Move.

I think people want to people are always asking or right now, people are just doing stuff too.

I'm seeing people sell out arenas, you know, like a lot of people are selling out arenas, you know, and shit selling out arenas like that would be a fucking imagine if we could give away like ten million dollars one night because we sold out a fucking arena like that would be I'd be a crazy Like the the things that could happen, I think, you know, that's what I really think about as opposed to like the what the plan is, the daily show will just continue and

Yeah, in the way like everything is happening with selling out these arenas, like whether it's comedians and they're putting on shows and it's an experience along with just the comedy, Like the possibilities are kind of.

Like you can make some dope shit.

Yeah, especially because I'm with WWE, so I'm in an arena every Friday, right, and I see like their roadies put the show together, the stage together, the lighting together.

Yeah yeah, yeah, talking about I mean there is.

Always in chess, no no, no, quietly this is a Checkers move right, because you can move one cheers.

Yeah, it is Checkers.

It is Checkers because I'm not thinking like fifteen steps ahead. But it would like make sense if you wanted to do like live arena shows, you'd learn from a company that had been doing him for thirty straight years, like every single week, right, that would probably be a smart thing. And then if you also are a fan of it, you get an opportunity to do it. It's like okay, this this makes sense to do This is like a good thing. Just probably get into big question I have.

Kind of get on Rogan one day.

I mean, you got your world on the circle of best Friendships with him and Aaron Rodgers, and you can doctor Joe Rogan. Actually, I do believe we coined the name, yeah, doctor Joe Rogan.

Ah No, probably a lot of I'm not saying some other brain wouldn't have thought of that, but I do believe we were one of the first to go, oh fucking doctor Joe Rogan, dude, because that whole scene. But hey, pal, i got into the world of people hating each other, and I'm not normally in that my Internet existence. I've muted out the proper amount of people of my Twitter block I've got. I've gotten back into blocking folks, done.

A great jobviously hit in the middle, making everybody laugh.

I know what everybody hates. Hey, listen, nobody needs to be listening to me on those decisions anyway. So I'm just gonna fucking just keep my shit to myself because I don't even know if I'm right, so I don't know if I should be telling other people that whole thing. So yeah, that whole Aaron Rodgers situation was wild. I'd say I had people from every single socio economic class, every single political class, letting me know that I was the worst human on earth, and it was fantastic. I mean,

And then oh, this motherfucker deserves to go to jail. He's killing people, I mean, you know.

And then I'm in there and I'm I'm allowing him to say this to a lot of people, so obviously.

I'm killing people.

What are you thinking when he's when he's going off about that kind of stuff too, So in my head, I was like, oh, this kind of sounds like I was like, this kind of sounds like Rogan.

And then he said I talked to my friend Rogan, and I was like, oh, my god, like like he's actually in the clip. In the clip, you see me like cover my mouth like this or whatever. And it was because in my head right before it happened. I was like, this sounds Oh, of course he's friends with Joe Rogan. Of course he is like that whole thing.

That's kind of what it was.

And I've been very you know, And I think being in an NFL locker room or football locker room in general, more so than any other sport that I played, I might be wrong in this. Like in NFL locker room has so many different views and beliefs met. And whenever you get a chance to like go home into those people's like cookouts or like go to those the gallas, or go to whatever, and you see why they believe what they believe, and like why they feel the way they feel, or you hear and you listen to why

Got to this decision. And I don't think I'm going to be the person that's going.

To change them, Like you know what, Pat mcfewe's going to be the guy that's going to get me off of this feeling that I have that I'm willing to potentially get a fine and all this shit. Like I just I find it interesting. I was getting at taxed by a lot of people for not pushing back. And it's like he said, he had a five hundred page report.

What the fuck? You're right, We're read five hundred pages in my life, Like what do we even.

What are we even doing at that spotlight two of Like yeah, but you have this platform and all these all these people listen to you, and you have this responsibility.

Yeah, but I think like a show can also just be one that displays and showcases humans is who they are. Like that's a form of entertainment as well, I think, right, you know so that's that's an interesting dynamic that all the big journalists came after me for.

And it's like.

I'm not doing your shit, Like that's your shit, right, Like I'm doing my shit. You do your shit of yelling at whoever and whatever your opinion is, you do my shit is Hey, do you want to learn about the two time MVP back to back, Like do you want to learn about this fucking guy who is maybe the greatest of all time at the biggest sport of all time, Like, do you want to learn about why

This is an icon.

Like whenever people come on my show, like I just I honestly just want to hear why they are the way they are, Why they think the way they think what they think, Like I'm I'm genuinely curious about all that stuff. But when Ian Rappaport comes on, it's just like, hey, Ian, fucking give us some news, dude, help us check out talking. Ian's the best that we have some regular guests like Chuck Bogonoll comes on weekly. Obviously Aaron comes on weekly.

Uh. Ian, like the JB was coming on there for coach j B was coming on for a little bit. That was awesome.

We're not, man, I wait, wh Like there's another guy like I don't know how because I don't talk college ball, Like I'm not a big college ball guy. I don't do a lot of juco stuff. He knows NFL stuff, but like, I don't know. It's just like the fit wasn't great, but we were so incredibly lucky.

It was great.

The fit was great for what it was, and we'll probably hopefully have him back for next college football season. But there's a guy like I hope I see like super sixty. Like I said, fucking he's.

One of one, right, you can do one.

Just like those give meters are just the only existent, the only what they say, and they the only white dude in Compton in his neighborhood.

Like, think about that guy, Like, we should hear that guy, right, right? I was like, right, he needs to be a vessel a bridge. I would like to hear that guy.

And when he comes on, he says something that we don't agree with or a lot of people don't agree with. Like people tend to just attack me for it. It's like, listen, man,

Those exist even though you think they're stupid.

Like, I don't know if everything has to be a complete fight on why you don't agree with somebody.

Yeah, Like I just don't think that has to be a thing.

Yeah, especially uh, I just think about Aaron Man, But dude, it's my man's got some nuts on him to be able to come on in just every Tuesday and just talk about whatever.

He's feeling and talk about whatever he wants to talk about.

Just because you've been in all the locker room You've been in the team meetings, not necessarily the locker rooms. The locker rooms was like, you know, hey, they support what you guys. Everybody supports each other with stuff that

Yeah, so he's just able to kind of be who you can afford to.

Be, right right, Yeah, I mean that is there was a couple of times where you know, I got in trouble for my Twitter account or whatever, and I was like a valid in the next day. That makes sense, like like, ah, I can see why you're upset in this entire thing. I didn't mean to distract from the team whatever, but right Aaron, I think the only thing

And I don't know what he I didn't know him a long time ago. I have no idea.

And AJ has done him a long time, you know, obviously a j Hawk has and their interactions are awesome, but I feel like him just opening up, but who he is. There's nothing that you could potentially get mad at him about from a team perspective.

Yeah, the couple dudes I've talked to that are on the team, they say, he's a boy.

Yeah, which is you know, which is the stamp? Yeah? You know what I mean, he's a boy. Yeah, it's all you get. That's all.

I gotta see something at that god damn party like Keanu Reeves dude with posh. I mean, Aaron's having a good time out there and he enjoys the Scotch. And I think he's legitimately one of the smartest humans that ever exists too. I think that is potentially a case one of the smartest humans that ever exists.

Well, like not in the you know, like, let's not put him in they like introspective self awareness, like Jeopardy, Like he wants to go like against the real free We're talking trivia and shit.

Yeah, like I think like smart, like in that fashion, not like changed. I'm not gonna speak for him.

He had a five hundred page report done on He must have looked at the bat, assuming he looked at it. Had the book club now, I assume he's looked at the writ But yeah, he's an interesting guy.

We're we've been.

I've been We've been very lucky to talk to him, but I've been very very lucky to have conversations with him on a regular basis.

I enjoy him. I think there is I have no idea where it comes on the show.

Yeah, sometimes people have them with the boy Taylor Bay. We probably shouldn't. I'll just run this thing this week, you know what I mean? Really, so Taylor doesn't get any shit?

Uh yeah, because it's like, you know how people come after you fans by Oh, he's.

More focused on the podcast, how he's playing football.

And you know, I knew if I had a couple of bad games.

Right, But that's where it goes, and you know, we always related to a dumb example of like, well, what do you want to do to do for a couple hours, Like, guys play video games, Guys do this. It's like you come on and have a conversation on a podcast.

But uh, you know the the woke mob. I said that lightly. I said that lightly.

Well, now you're getting me in, getting me back into this. The opinions of will do not reflect that of me. No, but yeah, it's it's off the fast you've been.

I'm just we've you've been around the team to where you just know how that dynamic can play out. So I just think it's dope that he comes on and you know, is able to be who he is because he can.

Afford to be that way.

Told me like one of the first times he met me, you know, and he became coach of the Colts, and he probably only knew me from my Twitter account, you know, like from outside of you know, this guy got arrested.

That's pretty dope though, right Twitter account, this guy got arrested.

He has a Twitter account, and uh, he's an okay at that time, I didn't really know how to punt it at that point, but I was an okay. I was an okay punter him. His first conversation with me was one like he wyn't you stop tweeting?

You know?

And I was like, uh, like that's not how he said it, but the way like he was basically telling me, like how about you stop tweeting or whatever?

And I was like, man, I just lay in my bed and I just I'm on my phone, Like that's literally what I do.

And if I if I say anything or do anything that hurts the team, like I'll put it down or whatever.

You know.

Like we had to have that conversation early, but Chuck was understanding of it and like cool about it. There's a lot of football dudes that would not have been like, no, actually, you're gonna You're gonna not fucking tweet. Okay, this is what you want to pump balls here, that's what you're gonna do. And I think that's what you're referring to, like that once you get labeled a distraction, oh I know it is over because.

I think for me, that's that if I was gonna play this year, it was gonna be for like a team.

Or a staff that I kind of knew and they kind of knew what was going on because like Vrabel, I had that conversation with them, because there's a couple of times where I was on PEA squad, so I was just watching the game and live tweeting and stuff like that. He said, hey, just be careful, you know, you don't say anything that can hurt the team. And I'm like, trust me, I am. I do not want

I forget the coach's name, but Burbs is it Burds? Yeah? Do you know what I'm talking about?

Yeah, okay, we'll say you shut up birds man. Yeah yeah, assuming as Raiders is this Raiders organization?

Yeah, Raiders organization? Yeah, Yeah, Burbs.

Got from the Colts, went over there. Uh a few years back. I think, Okay, yeah, he's good dude. He's he's been one of our early fans. He was like one of our first fans. He's like a good guy. He worked in the cults and we're like friends. He's a good guy.

Good, okay, perfect, Yeah he shut up, birds man.

But you're right with saying, like the people you know, like at other teams, when I retired, you know, I could still probably kick a ball pretty good one weekend if I had two or weekends. The only people that would reach out to me in my retirement to potentially think about coming back, like people that had known me in the past. There's no new coaches, no at all. Hey, you know what, I want to sign up for the fucking Pat McAfee thing. Like, there's nobody reaching out like

Thinking you were thinking of a comeback season.

Now I was gonna kick this was this in twenty twenty, twenty nineteen, Because you would send me, you would went too well workout. Yeah, and you took a photo of your knee and it blew up on you after the work and you're like, I was you. I was up to something, but I don't think about it, not up anymore anymore. Yeah, when was that. I don't remember a few years back. It was after there was a few bro two Max yeah too.

Yeah, maybe a couple there you go, a few three yeah, few three, couple two Yeah, maybe a couple of years back. I was so the guy that I was kicking, my kicking coach coming out of college. And by kicking coach, I went to his camps and he was the only one that really helped me. So he was my kicking go It wasn't like a full time thing though, but he was a good dude who I kept in touch.

You know.

So Chuck had seen me kickfield goals in practice, Jamie Cole had seen me kickfield goals for a long time, so it was like a pretty It was like a hey, you think you would want to maybe get back and kick because they thought that role in Chicago after what had happened would be a tough role.

You'd have to be a pretty like confident human being.

They thought, like that's what they were thinking there, And I think Chuck and Jamie both like were like, hey, if we could get this student and we could maybe he could be a guy. But I was gonna have to earn it. I was gonna have to like try it. I was gonna have to like compete against people. They weren't just gonna like hand me the gig. I was gonna have to like do the whole thing. And I hadn't got a kick in the NFL, and nobody had really had success punning in kicking in the NFL doing both,

I was like walking. I'm like, oh fuck, it's dead. I'm I'm an old man. This is the way it goes. So yeah, that was kind of the universe telling me, like yo, talking to microphones. Yeah, just keep where you're at, man, don't do too much. Yes, do less, dude, that's what they were talking about. Yeah, do less. This episode is brought to you by Roman.

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We got somebody from Blake c on Twitter ask him if he has that jersey for Kern yet that he was supposed to swap with him. You saw Kerr came on the bus and showed we showed the photo. You said, hey, I'm going to get you that jersey. So we had a rule at India.

I don't probably a ton to see as well the fine that we would get if we were to give our game jersey or whatever afterwards.

So we never did it, and something that happened.

I think the game has changed mightily since then, where everybody seems to be doing it there for a bit, aside from COVID. But we didn't really swap jerseys much like ever. Like the only people that did it I think were like like maybe like Peyton or Andrew, like I think it was like only big thing. So me and Vinnie never really want to do it, so we said clearly though I do remember clearly saying, hey, we'll

We'll send it this week or whatever. And we did not. I mean, that was fucked up. That was really fucked up.

I still, I mean, I have the utmost respect for Brett Curns too. I used to watch Bret Curns film. I'd watched Brett Curns film.

He is a monster. It's a robot, dude.

He does this thing too, where like when he catches the ball, it's like almost like pull him back a trigger, like sets him up perfectly. Every single time that I tried to steal, I tried to emulate it because he was such a robot.

He is fucking so good. He is really good.

He and I have always had I think, good conversations and until I just fucked them over and didn't send the able to make it right, Uh, I mean I will, Yeah, if somebody, I gotta find a jersey. There's not a lot of MACI for jerseys out there. There's gotta be some.

I don't even have any of mine. Get up to col soon. Just get something made.

Yeah, I should just a thought I should ask thought I should ask them. I was probably get a bunch though, Like there's probably numerous people that I have said.

So.

Yeah.

So I just picked up like fifteen Titans jerseys yesterday at the Titans facility. Yeah, that I had put in an order for but never the transaction never went through. This was from last year. But I was like, hey, can I can I come?

Uh?

Can I get those fifteen jerseys? Because Andrew Hawk Andrew Hawkins, Oh fucking he was stud when he's got a big, big brain, bro. And when I, uh, when I was talking to him. I forget what year it was. It might have been the same year that we would get connected.

You got a roll. How far are we from downtown here? Not far? Well, okay, we got a few more men. Okay, yeah, we'll finish up. But no, no.

Michael Cole just texted me though and said, are you working today or what's going on?

Like, yeah, just say I'm on busting with the boys, man. Yeah, dude, we got bigger fish to fry right now.

Conversation with the boy dude playoff Willie, Hey, Man, we were sad you got cut.

That was said too.

I knew, like I knew it was gonna happen because Bisascia. Well, the first time, I didn't know was gonna happen. The second time when they brought me back in when the dude had got in COVID, He's like, I can only promise this week, and then I don't know how to turn out.

I was like, oh, it's all good as long as we can get to the playoffs.

And then we won that dramatic ass game against the Chargers, and I wanted so badly. We were partying in the locker room bro dance and at the same time, dude, it's the best feeling in the world because that was a winning in game, and uh, I was like, I'm sitting there with the boys and everything out tell Vasahia. I was like, man, I don't know what y'all are gonna do, but I hope I get to say for this playoff front. He's like, he's like, you know, I'll

I did my job. Yeah, you did. You're a hired gun. Yes, we need to make the playoffs. Boy, Yeah, one tackle, one almost fumble, recovery. Excuse me? Was it three and a half minutes of PT Excuse me? Let's go, dude.

The numbers speak for himself. A few years of my career. So fucking you crushed it, dude. Brett is back to Bret. Cern though I got a lot of respect for Brecker. I love love Recker.

I feel like you're making up for it with this failing him on the jersey.

Well, I completely forgot about until right now, like you know, like the last I forgot about it obviously immediately after the game.

Was rude of me, very rude of me.

Not a lot of people ask for my jerseys so like, especially other players, so it's not like something that I'd be used to doing. And also I feel like a little bit of an asshole walking into the equipment room and be like, hey, by the way.

I gave my jersey away, I need to go another fucking jersey. I need to sew another one. Okay, I need to sew another one this week.

Also taking the bottom a little bit and tighten up the sleeves because I.

Guess you know, like I gotta get this strug going. Yeah, so I gotta. I got a hook up Breah for sure.

But I do love it if you do end up taking that idea of like going and getting a few macafew jerseys, may go ahead throwing in so we can hang out here at.

The spot being on them.

Man. And what I was gonna say, because it was gonna be a good thing about Andrew Hawkins, but he said every every year when I got done playing with that team, I would ask for fifteen to thirty jerseys because any conversation he wanted to have, whether it's building his network or business people or big minds, he's like, I always followed up the conversation was shooting them a jersey because that would be something that ingraded with them and I would have in the network forever.

Yeah, genius, bro, that's a good business move. But yeah, that's good business. He's intelligent, like super duper intelligent. He wants he has an Emmy. I think he's gonna get a Grammy done, He's gonna get an everything.

Yeah, I got to get the ego out. I think he's fucking incredible because, uh, he does stuff with lebron was it was that the the the shop? What's their company that? Spring Hill? Is that?

What it is?

Spring Hill?

They're fucking crushing it too. Let's talk about money now. I mean, I feel like that's like an another ride. I haven't really heard of spring Hill. That's like a bronze that's part of the Yeah, they own Uninterrupted and all that stuff. Yeah, Hey, that's big moves going on. That's elite moves going on.

Yeah, I'm excited to see their sportsbook deal when when?

Yeah, exactly, how excited to see their sports What's that you said?

Spring Hill? Yeah?

Spring Hill? If I ever heard of spring Hills? Like, oh, people must be doing something right. If people can't figure out what the top dog company is.

I don't know what that meant. I think you lost. They're saying.

I'm saying, I know of Uninterrupted all this other stuff. It's like the Disney the one behind the scenes. Right, Yeah, that was a miss. It's all good.

No, no, no, no one had a reaction. I look over.

I look over at Pat and he was just how wheels were turning. I didn't hear a reaction from the back. I was like, okay, I did not explain that. But I missed stuff. I missed a lot of stuff though that could have been on men. I can too, Bro, just can't. I mean, I I will miss so much and then I'm catching up later comes back around and you're like, oh, all right.

I got to reference that again to let old buddy know that I get what they just said there because I'm an idiot.

Yeah, it's life, dude, those athlete driven shows. What do you think happened? I am athlete transitions. I don't know. I have no idea I was. I was so intrigued by that.

I was so pumped for them too, Like I enjoyed that a lot, you know, especially because they had ownership over it. They were running themselves. It was an independent operation. It felt like they were really growing and going. I had a lot I loved. I think they're still going to go. By the way, now, the pivot's happening, Yes, Bro, pivots happening. Ryan Clark shot at the boy A getting and also Channing Crowder and Fred Taylor are hilarious human beings.

I don't know. I haven't really I just a lot of talk, but I guess there's a lot of things came out. The pivot was the truth.

And you're sitting there, you know, listening to and everything else, and you can tell their stuff like behind you know, they're grown men, they're professionals, understand businesses, business and stuff.

But something I had to have happened. You like watching that stuff. I like watching that stuff.

Because I like just watching what goes on, kind of moves being made, just being involved in I like, like you said, Channing Crowder and Fred Taylor, Like Fred.

Taylor just has the vibes of that that that og though, the one you called unk in.

The locker room, Yes og for sure, both of them. Fred came on the show, was awesome. Channing came on the show. He was awesome. Brandon Marshall came on the show. He was awesome. That whole crew is just a really talented group. And Ocho is obviously Ocho, I mean that is.

He's the man.

Bro.

No man, Yeah, I don't know, man, I have no idea what happened down there, But I don't like watching that type of stuff.

Like watching what you don't like watching im athlete. No, No, I like watching im athlete. I don't like watching like the.

Drama, like oh if it's going down.

Yeah, Like I don't like knowing. I don't want to like, I don't like I'm always just like I like all of you, like, I'm like, you know, I enjoy all of it. So I don't want to hear about let's get to the point where we're you know, didn't having good.

Times again and where everyone's being back to being like successful and stuff.

Find the right I see.

It's like, but it was such a good group. Yeah they all have to clicked and everything like that. And you're just like, man, I want to know what happened to the boys.

Man, there's probably some business stuff if I had to guess.

I mean, you never know. And on the internet it's such a wild wild West right now. It's modern day gold Rush the internet right now. Yeah, and uh, who knows. I hope they you know what. I hope they get back together though, ye'all. I fucking love having you on right now. Bro, did you imagine thing usually being high? But you wouldn't have had me on not high? He's like, yeah, I mean who knows.

I honestly do, because I started, like, I started diving into it a little bit, and then I was like, ah, I don't want to. I don't know, and it'll probably all come out, right. We assume, well everything will come out, but hope, I think so. But there's so many platforms, there's so many eyes. There's like some people have this thing where well, we have to hate this person because they're in our same area or whatever. But like now,

That's all.

That's all I ever like you, I hope you crush. I have no idea why some of our shit goes, so I don't. I'm not the person that should be telling you what to do at all, Like, but I hope.

Come on now, I know you're you're a humble fucking individual, but I mean, what works for me, I don't know if it would work for anybody else.

I honestly don't, and I only know my game. I don't know anything else. But what I'm saying is I hope everybody crushes. I hope everybody makes a billion dollars. Yeah, it's that's really all. There's enough eyes, man, there's enough ey's. There's enough money for everybody to eat. Yeah, yeah, for everybody to eat on the internet. Legit, there is now. Granted, I just got a massive pizza, you know, like massive pizza.

That's a big one. Too much?

Did you did you negotiate that deal because you used to be with U c A right, Yeah, I did some business with CA. And it's hard to sell a punter in Indianapolis, man, I think that's the difficult. So he's on the internet, he's popular, he swears he's a punter. He's an Indian Apple. Like, I think it was a hard sell. I think it was a hard sell thing. It's a hard I think it was a hard sell for some people, especially if they weren't around me on like a daily basis.

So I think it was a hard sell. So, like, I have no beef with anybody.

It's like, I'm just gonna start speaking for myself though, Like I'm gonna start speaking for myself for these people, so they know, at least I would like to hear why some things are happening or decisions are being made. I like them to actually chat with me as opposed to a potential version of me that they're hearing about. So, I mean it's gonna be a detriment to our business for sure.

For sure, it's gonna be a detriment to our business for sure.

But it is like, uh, it's pretty cool to be in those meetings, you know, it's pretty cool to like have a voice in there.

That is that's awesome. You learned like watching Shark Tank. You're trying to learn, you know, like you want to be on Shark tak one day.

Yeah, yeah, probably that's a goal. Yeah, for sure, And it'll be dope. Wh if somebody walks in with a billion dollar idea. Here you have one hundred thousand dollars, Yeah, here you go. Man, you did all the work.

And you start spending game at him and Cubans like you know that you just kind of get the respect that your peers sitting up there like pet kind of knows what he's talking about.

No, I would embarrass myself when it came to that ship. But like, uh, I mean that is the greatest concept of all time. Yeah, Okay, what are we gonna do. Well, we're gonna have people that have worked their dicks off to build companies. Okay, they're gonna walk right in here and they're gonna say, hey, ed shitless please God, yeah, come help us for whatever reason, we're not doing it. And all you have to do is write a check and then just ride the wave of.

Ask for more.

An incredible I that's how these billionaires are all fucking billionaires. They're creating shows that a there're getting paid for, and then they're getting people to come pitch ideas. It's just, uh, it was that that show I have the That show is an awesome concept, idea, execution, everything.

It is a gloriousue.

You gotta get on it. We gotta get you on it. This is the pitch right here. All right, I got a bounce, dude. I appreciate you coming on, man. I I'm so fucking grateful that the boy came on here.

Fox and you two. All the boys out in India. Hey, you guys should all come one day, especially when we get Taylor Taylor back and.

Yeah we should do something though, we should. What do you guys do down here? You just a lot of music down here? Oh we can find stuff to do, man, Yeah, we should do that. AJ should come to not that I control a schedule. I tell A that doesn't mean that's gonna happen. But I'm just saying it would be cool if AJ was to.

Be a part. Yeah, I would love all the boys to come down. You'll bring a whole squad. I appreciate you, bro, Thank you man. This is really cool. Thank you for having me. This is awesome.

I mean, I'm gonna be late. I think, do your SmackDown. Bro, he's got SmackDown to do now. This will be on the Hardest working Man blog or something.

No no, no, yeah, no no, no.

New series, new series called We Don't Do Enough Blogs vlog.

Yeah you see that. It was coming there at the end.