George Kittle

This episode of Busting with the Boys. The Boys is brought to you by Barstool Sports, and guys, we were fired up to drop this George Kittle episode. If you guys are unfamiliar with George Kittle, get familiar with him. He's one of the best tight ends in the NFL, arguably the best. He plays for the San Francisco forty nine Ers. He's known as the People's tight end because he's a huge wrestling fan. We actually get into his

I think they both played at Iowa.

Anyway, I'm john a blankret.

Now set you guys know how it is.

But George played at Iowa, So we talk about Nebraska Iowa. Of course, we talk about the forty nine ers playoff front what super Bowl? Super Bowl Media week is like who would have won Titan verus forty nine ers had the Titans beat the Chiefs, So they argue a little bit about that. Playing for coach Shanahan, we ask him the question, would you rather not make the playoffs or

His football career.

We also talk about visualization and how that plays into our game. George talks about his reset button and his joker tattoo, how important George's dad is in his life, which is a phenomenal story in itself. Our favorite bars in Nashville, all this fun shit do you guys are gonna have a blast. But yeah, if you're listening to this episode unsubscribed, resubscribe If you're not subscribed, subscribe for the boys because it always helps us out and we

Yeah, yeah, on the bus. We probably already get an intro for this. We do the intros after and the outros.

We do what do we do outros?

We do whatever we want.

We do whatever we want because it's our bus, it's our show. Brought on George Kittle, his almost super Bowl Champ, almost super Bowl Champ. We'll get we'll get into all that. But a surprise guest, his father, Bruce, which is the most dad name of all time. So congratulations on that.

That'sable.

It was My father's name was Bruce.

He came right in and he was ready to be ready to it at us.

So how did you find out about busting with the Boys?

Uh?

I can't remember, it's like three four months ago or

He does that. Michigan said, I love that.

You turned to his board just wrote yeah, like the.

Guy from Billy Madison with the lipstick puts it on on the couch. Thank god, I called that guy. Did you do you play college sports?

Of all I did? I played?

You played Okay. So this is like a family lineage of going to Iowa City and playing ball there hard place to play, yeah, Kinnick, Yeah, are you all'll from Iowa? Really? How? What's that like?

Living idiots out wandering around?

That's what I owe the world and apology. That's how I always remember in Iowa.

Those work for me.

What did you say?

It's better than Nebraska?

I owe the world and apology. Nebraska is essentially the same thing as.

Iowa, except it's flat, like Iowa has nice rolling hills and actually good corn. Yeah. I don't know what Nebraska has.

Oh you took, you took everything they stand for. Yeah, so this is you can't.

Not being from Nebraska. I can't speak on the car part. Oh that's fine, but you went there.

You chose to go there. I got an offer there and I went outside.

If you mind an hour outside of Lincoln.

My dad's from McCook, which is like almost it's it's about halfway all the way to Colorado. There's nothing.

Oh, there's absolutely nothing in Iowa. You'll you'll be driving and not stop at a stop sign and just go coast right on through, and you'll just see a town of one hundred and two people.

Yeahazing, exactly.

Yeah, my dad's hometown ninety four people. Right, and the next town literally is sixty five miles away. Yeah, And and then and it's only paved north and south. Everything else going east and west all gravel or dirt.

And they say there's more cows than people, right.

Yeah, they did, no doubt between cows, pigs and all that. Yeah, not in clothes.

I don't want to. I don't want to flip the script at all because we happen going a little hard on Iowa. But that's kind of a cool like way of life, kind of do it, do whatever you want. Everyone knows each other. Yeah, you get a lot of trouble growing up. You seem like one of those guys.

This is Nebraska.

Yeah, but I Nebraska was Nebraska.

It's okay, I'm taking those are the same states. To me, there's probably like fifteen states Nebraska.

I was a big deal that border, is it really?

Yeah?

It is to those folks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah to those.

Now are you still like big Iowa Hawkeye guy?

Oh?

I kind of graduated when he did, you know what I mean? So it's I mean, it was all good. It's been good to It was good to me when I was there, and it was I did that and then went to graduate school learn all that. So the university has been good and all that, the program and they were great to George. So we're all good, but you know, we were kind of ready to move on.

Yeah.

Did you grow up a Nebraska fan then? Since your dad?

Well, no, I brought my dad's heart.

So I got recruited by Nebraska and Iowa die and when when'd you play there?

So?

I graduated high school in seventy seven, so I was there fall seventy seven through eighty one, co captain eighty one rose ball team. So we didn't make it finally, but solid. Yeah, so there you go. And uh yeah, so no Tom Osborne. Actually the highlight of my dad's life is still because he had two brothers and they all went to Nebraska my grandfather everybody and got offered by Nebraska and dieland a couple ers and anyway, end up going to iowand my grandfather was so.

Did they get to meet Tom?

Oh? Yeah, it was a big deal. He had.

Tom would show up and then he pulled out back then they had the big red gum with that kind of sticks, and so that was his closer. You know, he's going, well, he'd slide the big red gum across. He goes, We hope you choose big.

Yeah. I like, hey, there's more where that came thing.

That's awesome.

That was very cool. My dad was just that was his big day.

The and then you broke your family's heart. Yeah, would you like to take the time to apologize.

To your family? No, it was all good.

Hey put it out there. We're all about second chances on all.

Of the older people in Bonta, Missouri. When Tom came to visit were I had teachers. There were teachers sprinting down the hallway to get his autograph. Really, yeah, it was insane. Tom is a legend.

He's a legend. He is.

He's a great, great man, and I mean he was terrific about everything. He was it was an honor to have him call into all that kind of stuff.

That's pretty badass. Was good, But what was the deciding fight that took you to Iowa? George went to you in a second. Yeah, just switched, no doubt you got it all said up.

You know.

A part of was a little bit of familiarity, but it's just, uh, you know, I I wrestled, and I knew a bunch of the guys in the state, and just we had so many you know, kind of guys that decided to go there, and it was just kind of clan thing. I think kind of our graduating class tried to want to make a difference and I thought we'd stay at home. So that was a big chunk

So anyway, yeah, I'd probably be untouchable if we won Natty Natty's when I was there, but we didn't know we were like nine for the entire time. I was underfeaated against Iowa. Though when was your first year there?

Twenty twelve?

That might have been my scene? Was Levante David playing still? Or was that when we came to you guys in like the zero.

Degree weather it was negative twenty five, but yeah, yeah, I didn't play that was you were dressed, no sleeves, of course, sleeps.

But you're out there like frozen.

It was.

It was miserable.

Hey, best part about that game was so we were four and eleven and we sorry four and eight at the end of that, and there's fans behind us because I'm a fresh and I have no impact in the game. I'm saying by a heater, and their fans mind us, yelling us we're losing because our mindset is weak for send in front of a heater and there week. I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry, my bad guys, but you ended up you ended up beating the you guys how many times you beat Nebraska?

I beat Nebraska twice. I never lost at Lincoln. I'm two and oh there and then I won my senior year, we beat the absolute dog shit out.

Yeah, I mean, honestly, like I think the last five years we've been struggling against Iowa. Yeah, fortunately though I was two.

And oh so just to chime in, though, see we beat him on their rank fifth in the nation. My senior year where they came over, we hadn't had a winning season in twenty years, and Big Tom rolled in and yeah, we end up beat him. I think it was like twenty four to seventeen or something.

They were number five, Yeah, either five.

Or six something like that. That you know, it was the second game of the season.

Did you guys store them the field?

The crowd, Oh was sick. Yeah, I bet it. That's awesome, Yeah, it was. It was crazy. That was a big one for us. That was really fun.

Do you think that's one of the issues that nebrask has now they're a little too full of themselves.

Well, I just think they thought it was going to be easy to reload, and it's just you know, with recruiting and the parody and everything like that, and with recruiting rules and all that kind of because then back in my day, I mean they every freshman was on a freshman team and you used a year of eligibility and then they read share to you and the freshman team had one hundred and fifty guys on it.

That's wild.

I mean, that's wild. You know, it just was that is nuts. It was crazy. I mean you you'd come out and you they'd walk over to the freshman They were like totally separate. So, I mean they had practically three hundred bodies that were part of Nebraska football during that time. So it's just a whole different thing. The way they recruited. They just gave out as many scholarships as they needed to. They would just recruit enough people. Even if you couldn't play for them, you couldn't play

Yes, wild, It's crazy the transition that happens between like college college teams. Like in the nineties early two thousands, Michigan was extremely relevant, you know, the U Miami eighties and nineties, and then Nebraska was a big deal. USC wh I was coming out of high school. I graduate high school twosand and nine and it was like USC Texas, Florida. Tim Teba was there then and so that was like and it's kind of like just these ebbs and flows.

Yea Alabama Clemson now though, Yeah.

But Clemson has been I don't want to say relevant to be disrespectful, but like rolling from a national title standpoint, how long have they been It's been like just a few years, right, yeah, five six years. Yeah, so that's kind of like the trend. Then, like the next team will come in, the next team, but I think clemb is gonna get for a while.

Yeah, they probably will.

I mean, yeah, they're solid, they're really good. They have a you know what, they have a lot of white boys in that team.

They're really fat.

There's so many white guys.

Renfro shout out Hunter Renfrod really looks like a car salesman. But that dude can run some Wow. I'm talking scrappy out there on.

The field, dude.

A lot of white dudes on Clemson. I just gotta say that, it's just crazy, just crazy.

They're carrying a heavy torch man. It's a heavy torch to carry it.

So what do you want to do? You want to go back you had high school first? You want to hit this past Bill Clinton Tarantino? Which one do you want?

Yeah? That one?

Well do you want to do? Quinton Tarantino?

Taylor's take us through?

So you go play in the super Bowl? Yes, So before we go to the Super Bowl? Yep, double Clinton Tarantino. Oh wow, take us to NFC Championship. You guys play green Green Bay and donkey stomp Green Bay. No offense to Green Bay. Yeah, and so like you guys saying yourself, we're gonna win the Super Bowl, no problem.

Uh yeah, I mean confidence was definitely high. Like I mean, I know they have a ton of great players. I mean, like one like thing for me, it's the NFL, Like everybody has great players. It's not like you're not playing a crappy college, right right, everyone has playmakers. So, like, I mean, I think both teams confidence was incredibly high, just to like, you know, they what came back from two to twenty point deficits to get to the Super Bowl and we just curb stomp dudes two weeks in

You guys only threw the ball like eight times.

Yeah. Yeah. The Vikings game we had eight attempts and then the Packers game, I think we had eleven. Jimmy g had an hour were in between passing the football. Really yeah. He passed the ball like once in the beginning of the second quarter, and there was another pass until like ten minutes up in the third quarter.

It's like a high that's a literally high school football. That's an offensive lineman's dream.

It was my dream.

Oh yeah, you're you're a big fan of blocking, right.

Oh, it's the best, especially our scheme. It's amazing.

What's your uh, what's your mission statement? Say your mission statement? There was something I read about your mission Statement's something about taking souls.

That is one of mine. My favorite quote is moving a man from point A to point B against as well. It's the greatest feeling you never feel.

You just said that.

Oh yeah, I didn't.

That's his favorite quote.

No, you know who said? Do you know who said that?

Coach?

I believe that was Russ Grimm, Hall of Famer, part of the Hogs.

Well, I know he did say it, but it's attributed. So my lineage with the Highway right, Kirk Farence came my senior year. Who's my line coach and I was on staff there for four seasons. So and his two his prime mentors were bad Rad who coached at Pittsburgh dur and the Steelers Heyday, and then Jill Moore. Really yeah, and so he always attributed to Jill Moore. And I heard Jill Moore when he visited us and we visited him.

Quoted for him multiple times and it just kind of always stuck with me.

That's awesome. We had, uh, we had Russ Grim a couple of years ago, and he's i mean one of the Hogs Hall of famers already said that, but he was one of my favorite coaches of all time. And he would say that all the time and anytime we do a run game. Meaning he was simple. He never made anything too difficult. It wasn't like, hey, your landmarks should be this, your foot's got to be this. It was just, hey, you're deducing to this guy. Hey, you

Did?

No? It did not get called. That's totally fair.

We're asking you, do you think it was?

There's a holding on every single play.

Right, but gl you had the nice.

Down block to there.

But did he get called? Way?

Where were you?

What were you doing when you're laying on the ground. You're just laughing.

Laughing God, because I was like, that was really farm and easy.

Was he saying anything to you?

You have to do that?

He said that because it's football.

George is like yelling laughing down there.

Who's the hardest guy you've had to block?

Climax tough?

Yeah, climaxes stud. He's a stud.

He's pretty good.

He looks like an animal out there.

Clowney's pretty good to Yeah, Clowne's a stud. I played against Clowney in the Outback Bowl when he had that like infamous hit. Oh yeah, yeah, that was whose fault was that? It was a power scheme and I called deuce and then the tight end was like Trey. I was like, no, it's a deuced. I not put Yeah, put your boy right under this bus. He's under it.

Dude.

If this bus could run right now, he'd be under it.

See. I saw a great quote from him after the game. It was like he's like, yeah, everyone's bating me for that block. But it wasn't my fault. I blocked the right guy, really because I remember like that.

So what's the Titans name?

No free shoutouts? He doesn't have.

I thought I thought we were shouting up.

No, No, I'm not I'm not gonna shut up, Kyle. I'm not gonna shout hey.

Here we go.

We can tell you what the third level block he went.

He went for walk.

And I'm out and I hit up.

Yo.

You guys kind of smack, kind of hit me.

Why am I.

Always getting smacked? If you would have scored then on display they did like it was like fourth down or something. Is the third down going to fourth down or fourth down? I would have been turnover and we missed the first down by like less than a foot, but they called it a first down and the next play this happened.

And you guys ended up losing that game, right, Yeah, we end up losing this because I remember being all we were all pissed off because you want the Big ten to always beat that Yeah Bowl games and you guys are beating them.

Yeah, Vincent Smith, there I am, and there I go.

And okay, you're already you think right here, you're I mean, you're a tight end.

What do we what are we seeing here?

Boys?

We gotta tackle this? Uh?

The because they did a lot of movement. They went from A to B gap a lot. So if we had a two I at any time, we would douce through.

If you left me on an island versus him, I would have I would have hated you.

Yeah. Probably, I'm sure he does too. He will say his name and he just kind of took say his name was?

Where was the d lined up?

Was he? He was a six I six I and you left him?

Oh let's go, we got the Hey see do you see the guy that's in the two. They did a lot of slanty. They were movement type of team. And what is power power is a gap scheme play. That's your classic power play.

And it's don't leave the title alone and also that he's gotta take better steps to get down.

But you didn't have anybody to be gap.

I know, because there's a two. If I've said it three times, I thought you did it after the second.

Uh you coach at Oklahoma.

Right, We're not gonna just walk past this real quick. Sorry, I'm getting abused on my own podcast right now. I will say that Vincent Smith was Vince Smith. He's like five to four. He's a short little guy, and he took this hit like a champ. All right, go ahead and move on, move on. He took it like a champ. Shout out Devon Garden for actually going for the ball.

That was he. That was enjoyable.

Well do you like that?

It was just because he sat back in the tight end. Why would you do that? And you guys seem to talk the same language, so you know, I'm just gonna observe and enjoy it.

Seems like a fog sticking up for a son in a situation.

But we're talking about yeah, yeah, that comes in.

Yeah, he heard deuce and he said, what, yeah, exactly?

Has no idea? What how do you don't know what deuce means? You're a smart guy, though, that's your thing.

I would get it if I said in offensive meetings for a week.

But if you're not a universal term.

Double double to the next level, what does that mean?

I guess so sure that that actually would be a fair way to put it.

Yeah, so you would. You would both double until somebody bruce gets it, until somebody shot a gap and you had to come off and hit.

That yourselves and like triple as me and Taylor work together like it's deuced like a duo. Yeah, guard tackle okay, okay, okay, center garde.

Du is more like a it's a gap scheme, play without a poller, right, yeah. And then power power basically, I will teach everybody how to block power right now, close your eyes, go to one o'clock. That's what you gotta do. And if you have a two I and they move a lot and it's a game plan, go into a bullet do what the coach says.

Yeah, how about you overcome coaching?

Oh oh my god, listen, let's talk about something. The Kansas City Chiefs guys eleven by eleven points. Yes, and the Titans lost to the Kansas City Chiefs also by eleven points.

So it's your fault.

Well, yeah, I guess so, it's everybody's fault. It's a team sport, a lot of individuals on this bus. Bruce, who do you think would have won in a Super Bowl between the Titans and the forty nine ers.

I think we would have won.

Okay, we we elaborate, elaborate. You guys have a good run game, can we do too? Heys of a good defense? Can we do too?

Yeah? Well, see our run game though, we're I think we led what We're second in the NFL behind only the Ravens because Lamar can run for two game, right, he's pretty good.

Beat them?

You guys? Did we lost to them?

That was?

That was a fun game to watch.

That was That was a cool game to be a part of.

Wait, which game did you like better? Beating New England or beating Baltimore. Oh, that's a good question.

I think probably beating Baltimore because I've been to the divisional round before and go to the a C Championship. It's like, holy shit, you're one game away from the show, like you're you're so close. I think I think if Rabel is here, he'd probably say the Patriots. The Patriots, that's what your best team of By the way, Yeah, now he was unbelieved. He did a great job on that. He loves. He loves busting with the boys. He wants

And then Brabile texts me, He's like, I just wanted to let you know what I said to your boy. He text me the same thing.

Hey, Rabel's a boy now he does. He loves busting with the boys. John not so much.

But you talk about saying out of the media. Ray was just heavy in the media on facetiming with Brady.

So he was facetiming Brady.

At the Yeah, Edelman and Brady's next to him and they're they're all facetimon So they're like Brady to the Titans. Confirmed. But yeah, everybody's arguing on social media right now. Was that posted on parcel But Rabel. It's everywhere, but Rabel's face is on the FaceTime, so you could you know his face?

What a great shop are the guys sitting behind?

Yeah, that's no one's safe anymore. You can't do anything and you get exposed.

Oh yeah, no chance.

That's tough stuff, man. I mean back in nineteen eighteen seventy seven or whenever your old man played like he told.

Me that he would have been in jail had there been canting.

Oh no question, yeah, no question. Bruce has got that. You got that salty, old old guy vibe. Which that's a compliment. Okay, please don't take that. I'm about to get my assakay?

Oh do they have it?

Does that count as tampering? But it shouldn't really count as tampering.

Because they're boys, they know each other.

It's like if you became a coach and we were boys and you FaceTime me, would that be a problem? Not for me, But does the NFL get mad at that? It's if somebody wanted to get the dude, the boys, the boys rocking back there? So what brought you guys in Nashville? How do you guys have here?

That's root of you, that's a good game. The play is a nice PI call. But what did you say?

Sorry? What brought you guys in Nashville? You guys live in Nasville?

Now? I bought a house in April, really April. Yeah. Yeah, we're at like a block away from Lipscomb to high school. Really yeah, very cool?

You work got down there?

Oh yeah, I do my training there. He's the line coach there.

With Hey with whole holt Yeah, holds of stud man lipscumb's got that thing. I'll figure it out. Huh.

Aren't there redoing a whole weight room and everything just did? Yeah?

Really yeah, it's nice.

Yeah, and our strength coach he's got eighteen years in the league. Really yeah, he left the Texans to take our job.

No way.

Yeah, because his kids plays the quarterback and so he wanted him to come because he knows dl FL from the old.

Days and all that stuff.

So that's awesome.

Yeah, so it's pretty good. No, they just redid it with all this stuff he wanted from whatever he's been doing. I can't remember what makes it, but yeah, it's pretty special.

And you also reside in Nashville. Yeah, so what brought you guys from?

So? I woa to hear Worre at Iowa. I was just finished my rookie season. I was going to go back live with my parents, and I was sitting in his train at the University of Iowa. But like, after a week of Oil Doyle rules, I was like, well, I don't have a quarterback, so I can't routes, and there's no other wide receivers here. I was literally the only offensive skill position there. Everything else was off. It's the line or d line. I was like, well I can't.

Yeah.

And so my quarterback from I was C. J. Bethard, who's our backup quarterback at San Francisco. He was like, yeah, just come to Nashville'll run routes to work out together, the whole shebang. And then my wide receiver from San Francisco, Trent Taylor, also lives in Nashville, so yeah, you can come train with me and did that right after my rookie year. Worked that well for me, did it again last year and then I just loved it so much about a house, no doubt, and Nashville's just sick.

So National is a sweet place. I gotta tell you. The weather though it's depressing.

It's brutal. Febra and March are not fun, and then July is really human but it's fun.

Yeah, but it's it's still Nashville. It's just cloudy and rainy.

Yeah.

Live in Iowa.

Yeah, I can't exactly.

I grew up in Arizona.

Man.

There's like a week ago it was like ten degrees and six ins inches of snow.

That's wild. So yeah, Will and I were talking about that on the film before this podcast, is like, I was like, how do you live here? Like in February March time? Because it's like if I don't get sun, Like, if there's not I almost get depressed. It does actually gets down Taylor, he grew up in Arizona. Yeah, and just said that.

Backers Nebraska. Yeah, I was gonna say.

I thought he just said, I do appreciate that you.

Hey, but what I say about living in Nashville you got to embrace the suck. I think you appreciate the seasons more.

I appreciate Broadway.

I appreciate Broadway. What's your what's your spot in Nashville?

Oh wow?

Going out. You're cut, you're cutting loose for one night.

Oh. I'm a big fan of Luke Bryan's and f GL House.

Solid places, solid.

For I like both those places. It's fun.

When we did the jersey reveal thing for the Titans new uniforms, they were all they like that's where the after party was. FGL House.

It's a good, good set up on the stairs is sick.

Yeah, that's a nice spot. You've been to Losers I love that's my dude, that is my number one spot. Yeah, Saturdays, catch me in the back, man.

I'm a Friday guy.

There are you really? They were just fishing each other.

We'll flip it.

We'll flip it. I'll come to you on Saturday, or you're coming to me on Saturday. Fridays, I'll go to FGL House.

There's a couple of batter parties the weekend of the March fourteenth. If you're interested, I'll be in Cabo. The boys will be in cop I just got back from Cabo. How was Cabo the best? D is I want to own a place there? Oh yeah, one hundred percent. What's great is I fly down from San Francisco and it's like a two hour flight, and it's that's awesome. It's

I want to know where Ezekiel Elliott's training down there.

Holdouts someone told me. I do not remember though, but it was like right on a really really nice like Tiger Woods golf course.

I'm pretty sure is it like is it a nice setup there?

Sick?

That's one thing Nashville needs to get is like, like you would you train for the combine Exos?

Yep.

So I'm a big Exos guy. I love what they do. I really do. I'm a big exercise no fore shouts, but that was free. That was free. Well, we'll blip them out.

It's part of the it's part of the deal.

Yeah, it's part of it's part of the gig. Here.

I'm bustling with the boys. I'm a big fan. I think like Nashville needs like a good solid, like an Exos type place because now everybody has access to the lips. I'm like, y'all do very true, you know what I'm saying. Or yeah, Vandy solid too. That's where that's where we worked out in the summertime and all that.

So you go to the Super Bowl, Yeah, back on tracks.

Yeah see yeah, well all the place. Tell us what that week's like, going through the whole thing, like the whole uh media, all that stuff.

The media is wild experience just because you do it, you have, like it what it's like two hours on Monday night and then you have an hour of the next day, and then an hour the next day, and then an hour of the next day, and by the third and fourth days you either have the exact same questions or you have a bunch of people will run around trying to do get you to do really stupid stuff. I had a dude from a German Germany use like

Did you do it? No? Why not?

My PR guys would have you know, they would have not been happy with Yeah.

PR guys aren't usually happy with me. O the Titans.

See, I try. I try to be nice. You know, that's good.

You you're you're you know what, You're coachable, You're a people person, coachable.

I get it.

You're describing me because I'm white.

I'm first and first. Yeah, lunch, pale guy, limited athletically ceiling, got a ceiling for sure, there's no floor, oh my gosh.

But yeah, the media week, that stuff is wild. Practice was different. I mean we were at the University of Miami, which is pretty cool, like being in one of their locker rooms and seeing their facilities, which is sick, I mean, but it was. They did a really good job of making it as normal of a game week as you possibly could. But yeah, mean, yeah, it was pretty normal. It's pretty easy. The media stuff gets pretty old pretty quick. But other than that, you just go play football.

Do you like do you have like a routine during the week obviously that you like massages? Do you do ivs and stuff like that? So how did you were able to do that when you're done in Miami?

Well, our team was a great job. Like three days, two days a week. They bring in this is in California. They bring in a massage like a team of ten to twelve people, massage therapists, chiropractors, acupuncturists, like the whole shebang twice really to us too, and so then they brought all those people to Miami with us no way, Yeah, that's awesome.

That's all time.

Yeah, so sick. So I got to I mean like that stuff was easy for me, Like I didn't have to adjust anything.

Mm hm.

The only thing that like, what sucks about doing stuff on the road, in my opinion, is all this time you spoun on a bus going to and front places. Yeah, because instead of I live five minutes from my facilities in San Francisco, and so as soon as stuff gets done, like I'll get it's a five minute drive home for me, then I have the rest of my day. Yeah, Like there was I was a thirty minute bus ride and they had to wait for everyone, and it's another thirty

What's it like planning?

Coach Andahan awesome. Kyle's just I mean, he's the man. I love playing for him. I think one of my favorite things about him is like, first thing, I think he just loves football so much. And like when you have a guy that loves football and you're's like not work for him, it makes it pretty easy to play for the guy, Like he doesn't have to give us a pump up speech R like that, you can just tell much it means to him. But I also like

Being four and twelve, do you think that the biggest change is obviously been having Jimmy g healthy.

Then, Like I mean we grew up honestly, Like my rookie year, I think it was like we had twenty rookies on the active roster fifteen something like that, and then the next year was all for rookies and then second year guys, like everybody was like, we didn't have any vets, like Joe Staley was our vet and other than that, we really didn't.

All that to have.

He's amazing that guys all time. Dude, super pump that he's going back. If I hope he is.

Yeah, is he a free agent or is this like a possible retirement.

Possible retirement. I don't think so, Dude, I heard.

And I don't know. So if he hears this, I'm speaking out of.

Rumors, he's talking shit.

I'm talking shit, Joe. I heard that.

I heard that.

Like before Shanahan got there, he was like kind of ready to hang it up. And then when Shanahan got there, he enjoyed the offense so much. He's like, I'll keep doing this. I like this. Hey, the Titans Titans in fortnit As, we run similar offense.

We know, yeah, but I don't know. I do know that he has definitely enjoyed playing this offense so like it it's run game friendly. Like the amount of work that we had to do together to just makes our lives a lot easier. Yeah, it's a fun offense.

No, I love watching us. But how many runs do you guys usually keep going into games?

Do you know?

You guys are pretty run heavy, Like.

Our run portfolio, our run install I'd say it's between like first and second down out of twenty one like everything, but eleven personnel is thirty five pages. Really yeah, and then one plays kill it plays with like our cans and all that stuff on them, and then we'll have between ten and fifteen eleven personnel runs and then we add in the short yards and the goal line stuff later. So you guys hear shit, little runs fifty to sixty every week?

Yeah, do you think that ever becomes a problem for like younger guys being able to remember, because like you can have three plays and they're all exact same but outside zone, but like it's a little different for the tight end on this plate. It's a little diferent for the z on this play.

I mean, like I struggled my rookie year with it. It was it was super hard because like we have a play called Zelda and we have a play called Zoro, which are the exact same basically for everybody except for the Titan the fullback and but they sound the same. They're kind of similar, and yeh.

Swisch responsibilities on this place essentially.

Yeah, yeah, but it's just like, oh geez, but I've gotten used to it and they've they've gotten a lot better of installing it too, so it's broken down a lot easier so younger guys can figure it out. But we also don't really have that many young guys on

It out, no doubt.

Shannan's the studs man. When when I was on the Scams my rookie year, it was Shanahan, Lafleur, and Sean McVay all in the same staff squad, and yeah, and those dudes were like up every night all night, just scheming all the time because coach Mike Shanahan was the head coach at that point. Yeah, they were studs man, and they were fun to be around because they're like younger and everything and they're just they were just always

Lafleur was the same way at the Titans, like he'd be there till midnight everything. I don't know how those guys get sleep.

I don't know.

It's like they don't give a ship. I've never just like, yeah, we're trying to this whole thing.

We got Shanahan, who's like the OC head coach, and then we have U Mike Lafleur, so Lafleur's brother, and there's our passing corner, and then Mike McDaniel's our run game coordinator. And I don't think I've ever seen any of those three guys leave or get to work. Really, they're always just there when I get there.

Or that's wild, dude. I that's how our O line coaches are. The Titans a little bit, he's he's always grinding it out. I mean when we finished the AFC, the AFC Championship game and we were doing exit interviews, he was like, all right, we'll see you later, as opposed to like the year before we did make the playoffs. We had like twenty minutes all of us sitting down talking. He's like, all right, well you guys, we'll see you. OTA's good job. We'll doeple ge him next time, kind

We're just having this conversation like were you really Yeah, Like I don't know, because I mean, like going to super Bowl. It's the super Bowl, so like that in itself is awesome, But like if I got to the NFC Championship and loss, I think I would have rather almost not made the playoffs. Right, just two months extra

I've had I've had a hard time, like like with my times just because I did the AFC championship and now like usually I take like January off and then I go work out and so like I was in what two days after Yeah, the a sh sh I was like, I gotta I gotta work out like this is I guess that's my vacation. Also though, based on how you were feeling, because yeah, I've never felt something. I've never felt so good. I don't think since high school.

Yeah, I felt a lot better, dud.

It makes you like when you don't make the playoffs, Like my first two years, we were two and fourteen and then three and thirteen, and I was like, how the how did fucking guys do this? This is awful? Like and every week lose every single week, Like you're in November and the vets are making their plans for vacation, like what are you guys going to do? It's like middle of November because you know you're not making the playoffs, and it's like.

And coaches are so like, hey, if this team loses and we win and you end up getting in.

Like yeah, there's all these mathematics and you can get in like six and ten.

And you're like, man, I just hope.

Yeah, just kidd.

It's like well, yeah, if you're like one of those teams that squea in, sometimes you're like, I mean we were one of those teams that squeezed in at the end and went on a run. But it's like sometimes it's like there's those teams that make the playoffs have any business in the playoffs, but they just happened to be the sixth seed that got in, and it's like, Okay, you guys just wastedification for a week. Yeah, you know, it's not like, uh, I mean, like the pay is

Like Russell Wilson makes whatever he makes and then the playoffs he makes thirty thousand. Yeah, round, that's unbelievable, rageous.

I think it should be that way. No, remember we talked about that. Yeah, but why there's like, uh, you know, you make whatever. You guys make like forty thousand for the for whatever game, and.

It's like twenty nine thousand for the first two games. I think the same one. It goes up a little bit.

It's still a solid, it's still a solid yeah, but rejected we're talking, but like first off, but like you're for him, Yeah, I know for him, but me, you're not on your second deal yet, so you're not you haven't even hit your fourth year, so you're still on like a.

Rookie nice bonus.

So it's a nice bonus for the boys.

Yeah, but like what about the fellas?

But yeah, true, no doubt. But I also SAIDs. But I also said somebody who's somebody who's big paid but also on the sideline and you're out there grinding and you're like, oh, this dude's making his same game day check.

Yeah, Like I mean like I like I said, I like the bonus, Like for I got a rookie tight end and then a second year tight end. They were both under at free agents. Like for them, Yeah, that's awesome. It's great for me too. But I'm just saying, like Russe Wilson him, like why like why would you go out there like thirty thousand dollars like when you're usually getting paid I don't know what three thousand, five hundred thousand.

No, go ahead, what do you get?

Hey, we can look it up, So just say it.

No, I don't say it's okay, we'll bleep it out. Yeah, just bleep.

Yeah, I make a game per week. I make a game, I may bleeve the game you gotta you gotta pause makes Bruce is here staring me down. I feel uncomfortable saying how much I make. You should Okay, that's full, you can google it. But I will say, like anybody who's listening to, anybody who listens to like obviously, like, twenty nine thousand dollars is a lot of money. Twenty

No, no, no, first week.

I'm just gonna I'm just gonna wait until this is all over. Eighty million people.

Nineteen was your base salary eleven million this year?

Well yeah, that was after I got suspended from Good for you.

So he's probably, you know, roughly, that's a lot. Don't do many eight something a game.

So but I'm what I'm saying is is that like when you go and you're making a certain amount of money, Let's say you're making eight hundred thousand dollars a game. Let's just say, and you go and you play another game. Why when't that in the playoffs you're gonna have there's gonna be more ratings, more money coming in for teams. Why wouldn't you make more money your same check and then they got why would everybody make their same check?

Not a big math guy, but I don't understand, you know what I'm.

Saying that that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I love tequila. You can't beat it, tequila, water, lime juice.

You're solid like tequila, pineapple juice.

Really a lot of sugar in that.

Yeah, I know, but it's juice. So then I feel healthy. There you go.

I love that squeezed so that I feel healthy.

Let's get back to uh, George A little bit or a lot of bit?

George?

Yeah, Greg, George? Either one, all right? Whatever? Whatever you know ruffles or feathers, isn't it George? It is GEORGI yeah, okay, who said Greg? I don't know who said Greg? You said Greg? I don't say Greg.

I get those are two total different names.

Well, I get, I get, well, esp I sat.

Here like, holy shit, I thought it was George.

Remember this and anything in the head, anything in the head things and this ship. Yeah, hospital like.

Three times last year. I think it was after season. I think it was ESPN. I think like put up all these like like what tight end would you want on your team? And it was Kelsey, Kyle Rudolph, Greg Kittle, question Mark like three different times, who would you say at the top five tight ends in the league right now, no particular order. I love. I mean, Kelsey's amazing, Zach Artz is incredible. I think you have two fantastic tight ends and Walker and Smith and they're both unreal.

Oh first, there's a stunt any smart too, Let's see.

I like Will Disley and Seattle. I just he is a play a full season healthy, which he will like you've just been hurt. I mean, like what I love about that, there's so many great tight ends in the NFL, Like they're everywhere, and you know, not all of them get you know, the spotlight anything like that, but I think there's a bunch of really good ones out there and finally starting get a little recognitions.

I like that tight end positions definitely developing into something. It was kind of like fading for a little bit, and it's coming back full force. It is definitely your guys catch the ball, you can run.

We just had Darren Waller come on a couple of days ago.

Oh really, he's a monster. Yeah, he's a stuch I did. I always forget how he's what six to seven? He's telling him.

Uh, He's like, no, I don't think.

He's sixty six. Yeah, probably, I've seen him on film. It's just he has the longest legs I've ever seen. I need like gallops bro Field.

He has the craziest story. I was telling Taylor about it because he wasn't here for that one. But it's the most insane story because he's a recovering addict. Oh yeah, and he was suspended for the entire year I think of two thousand and seven twenty seventeen, and basically when he drove back to Atlanta, he like odd in his car and checked himself into rehab thirty five days, twelve sep program, all that stuff, talked about how fire it was, and then basically worked at Sprouts for eleven to fifty

He's like, Yo, who the fuck is this guy?

And they activated him the next week and that's how he started with Oakland in twenty eighteen. Then he had his year in twenty nineteen. They re upped him mid year I think after London the London game.

Yeah, like four weeks in, right, yeah.

But dude, the most incredible story. But anyway, shout out Darren waller Man, dude playing in Iowa.

Yeah.

I was reading up on you earlier and you were a big party guy. Oh yeah, yeah, big party guy. Read this huge article I think on NFL dot com talking about you know, you basically had to check yourself going into what maybe senior.

Year, Recher junior year, Yeah, recherd junior year.

You just what would you do? You just focused more, you were you were having more fun than you were focused on ball or what.

Well, my freshman year because I red shirted, I think I went out five nights a week. Sure, really? Oh yeah, right? Yeah? I mean you only were I only on to wake up like at six am twice a week for lifts. Other than that, like we didn't have anything until the afternoon, so it was pretty easy. And then when you're nineteen years old, you recover pretty fast. Yeah yeah, like you could drink a bottle of Captain and then you wake up the next day you do a full workout without

Pat, you're a lover.

Yeah, you have fun, everybody enjoy everybody.

Everyone have a good time baby, good vibes only. But Pat like we would get in fights and stuff like that, and so he so, I finally I got approach and I was like, you know, Pat, what'd you change? He goes, I just looked myself in the mirror and said, do you want to play football or do you want to be known as Joe College your entire life? He said, That's all I needed. And then after that, I stopped going out so much. I stopped drinking so much, and I mean really like all it did really take me.

So that was kind of the moment that we're just literally just like, Okay, this guy, I I I soak in this advice. I'm more of a sponge to what he's saying compared to yeah, what your dad was saying. What do you what do you think when you read something back on some of the stuff, or did you know you have to get him to focus? Or what was it like, Raisin old George Well, raising his college years, let's say college years.

Well, he loved because I mean I coached him all the way up until high school, you know what I'm and so every little and then I was a coach, So we had preached all that. I don't know, I'm glad that Pat came along, but it's nothing that we

He wasn't excited.

Look, you got three years, got to live in the weight room, be a big, thick and strong, learn the game, be a great technician, and fight you're wear into the field.

My biggest trouble like the transition. Like I know, I lived in the weight room, I did all that, I got size, the uh like the scheme, I just it was like I just didn't really I didn't. I didn't think studying was a big thing in football. That used to show up.

And play in high school.

Yeah, you never watched it. It took like two and a half years to understand that I don't know anything. And I got to figure that out, right, So and then I mean, once I figured it out, then you get a little bit of confidence. I mean, and for me, football is all about confidence. If you're confident your ability, you're gonna play well. And so yeah, and then I finally got to play a little bit and two good years in a row, finally got an opportunity the NFL.

That's awesome. Yeah, I mean it kind of sounds kind of similar for me, honestly, but I didn't figure it out. It's like my second year in the NFL. After my second year and then I stopped going out so much. I gotta probably count one hand how many times I've drink in twenty nineteen. Not a big drinker.

Let's go not a big drinker.

I would be the Cabo.

But yeah, Cabo. I mean what I do now is like, I don't just go out to go out like I, Oh, it's Friday night, Like that's what you do. You go out on Friday nights, go on Saturday Night's Like for me, I'm like, all right, I do a boy's weekend. Every Saint Patty's Day. We go to Cabo four or five days. I let it loose and Cabo have some fun and then get back on track.

But yeah, it kind of goes like do you drink during the season at all?

I don't.

I mean the only time I do I do drink is if I do, it's gonna be bye week. Like Halloween. Halloween is my favorite holiday. I love Spootober.

Dude, we throw a great Halloween party.

Yeah, dude, we need to do a big Halloween party here. My wife is she loves throwing parties, and I think that's on the that's on the it's gonna maybe FGL house this year. We'll find out when your bye week is maybe come out.

He said it was Week four's brutal.

We've had that before. That's that's tough gig.

I don't know how Like I want two bye weeks. It will never happen. Like I would love two bye weeks, but like, how do you give someone a bye week week four weeks into the season, So it's it's insane.

You should start buying until like at least week.

Seven, Yeah, six to seven, like I can get six because like you then need to buy like after camp and all that stuff. But week four is tough because twelve straight games is a lot.

That dude, I've had to do that before. That's a tough gig. That's a really tough gig. You want two buys though.

I like I don't know, man, Like for me, like as long as I'm healthy, like I feel like I can play football forever. So like that extra buye is incredible because I mean, like for me, the bye week, I don't really go anywhere. I stay around and I just do rehab and I get my body back health.

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When you first got in the lead, you just follow guys around like Staley.

The Staley was terrifying my rookie year. Really, I was so intimidated by him because he's he was an eleven year vet and we were also we weren't. We went to nine and so like I think it's a vet when you're oh and nine, you don't really enjoy going to work that much. And so he was scary sometimes definitely scary. But I love Joe.

Now, shout out Joe Staley.

That's free. I'll give him a free shout out.

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I was in Incinitas, California, and Joe's got a place out there.

Yeah.

And one of biggest regrets, man, he kept wanting to get together and I was like, yeah, I'm in, but I never I never did. That's tough, I know, so I I feel bad.

What was your what was your learning curve like as a rookie transitioning into the league and then go from year one to year two and.

Well it was awesome. So I was there. I was They drafted me, went through all the O t as Vance McDonald's a tight end. He was ahead of me, and I had like three guys ahead of me, but they just threw him with the first team reps because they were all like they were three big guys and I was just a little bit quicker latterly than they were, just like they threw them on them pass plays and stuff like that. So I got reps with the ones, but not a lot, Like I had no idea what

He's a unit dude.

Oh he's a monster.

We practice against them, and I remember just looking at him, like.

I had a block this year, I had two pass pros. I was like, what are we doing here?

We played them and I saw a picture of like me blocking him, but I was like, yea, who's the tight end walking that giant ass dude. I was like, he was engulfing me. He's It was terrifying.

Yeah, my whole rookie year is basically I just got thrown into the fire and but it was fun, like if you figure it out, I was lucky, Like my tight ends. Coach is amazing, John Ember. He's an old school guy. He had Tony Gunzalez. He was in Tampa for a little bit, but his way, he did a great job of it. He took all of like whatever, coach and like he has a lot of very confusing schemes and a lot of words and all this stuff, and MBO would just break it down, like this is

And it's important to have a good position coach because if you're like, say you're injured and you what'd you say you played Week two.

Or three or whatever? Yeah, I missed, and then when you re.

Injure yourself, like you know, you see it in all the rookies, like when you're young and you just get in the NFL, like you're just st because you're like you're hurt, and you're like, I know I don't need to be hurt, and I know the coaches are stressing

And also learning the playbook. I think simplifying things as much as possible is the way it makes you play so much faster. I know, like I know the basic scheme and they'll be like heye, say there was a centator in this plan, like don't play center doesn't matter. I know where I'm going, and I know where the guard's going. I know where the tight end's going. We're solid. Take care, take care of your house first. You don't need to like I don't need to know what what

Yeah, easy, okay, I can I can do that.

Should look but arter okay? Is he more of a like left foot, right foot hand placement all that.

Yeah, he's very detailed, like he's I think every stage in the game that you're at a coach is good. Like if you have a coach at super vague when you're first getting in the league, it's probably gonna be a little tougher for you to develop a technique wise,

Don't you do enough of that in practice that the muscle memory stuff. It kind of like you know, if you like you talked about track schemes, right, so if you're going down to the A or B, get whatever, you know through whatever. If it's a deuce, you know you're inside what's going on your second steps doing this based on his alignment all that, Right.

Take that time in the practice to like, if I'm trying to cut off, like I have a really bad habit of stepping under myself when I go to cut off in the beg gap. Okay, so I'll stand in practice with Solly, who's our assistant online coach, and just step over a yard line over and over step over so I don't step under myself, and I still step out under myself. But it's that it's that muscle memory of trying to figure out that angler are supposed to be up.

So you do it enough so you can go fast and still maintain at least enough to get the jobs absolutely.

And my thing, like, I'm what you call a linear tackle, so I'm not like, I'm not a three hundred and thirty three hundred and forty pound guy, Like I'm playing ball at three oh eight between three o eight through twelve during the season, and so I have to I technique has to help me a lot, especially against bigger dude like Julius Pepper coming down the pipe. You sit your ass down, you know, so like, yeah, yeah, you got to hit down.

That's what I mean.

Well, working with him because he's yeah.

Which is which is a good sized tight end. I mean, you're not like two seventy five ye, but bruiser.

Having a sift block where trell Sugs runs through your face at full speed. Yeah, is tough.

Sugs tough if you play a really athletic guy but plays like football the way football supposed to be played. Like they have the sea gaps, so they're going to stay in the sea gap. And then you got guys like Sugs, like Clowney JJ Watty, they'll do what they want to because they're athletic, have to make got they can hit that B gap and come back out and still protect that sea gap. Those are the hardest guys to play against. Suggs is definitely one of those dudes.

What the hell?

What happened?

Yeah exactly, You're kind of looking around like that. That was definitely me. So that's I think that's the hardest part of the NFL is when those guys start to figure out, like you know, overcome coaching, make a play. Those are the hardest guys to block for sure.

Well, we're doing with some of the NFL guys. We'll be doing some online stuff next week. So if you want to shoot by Lipscomb Academy.

I would love to, except for I'll be in California next week. But what are you guys doing in like April during OT I'll come by.

Yeah, we'll be as so long as the NFL. Well, all they leave, so they'll be gone around the fifteenth April, and then they come back. So we'll have a pretty good group of guys tight ends and some line guys.

Yeah, I'll be around.

Uh and then the summer.

I think we all all summer and watched.

The practice last year, remember when we went and trained it. Yeah, and they they were doing their you know, I think they had, like you guys had a whole thing going on.

I get dms from like high school kids all the time, and one of the coolest things, like high school football is the best football, Like it's the It's the most fun you'll ever have in your entire life. So definitely take take the most of it because I think Like my senior year of high school, I was like, don't drink, don't do nothing, don't you know, focus on football. And got to college and it went totally backwards, totally totally flipped. But like high school is like you're with the boys,

Man.

Even if the teams like way better than you, like, there's still sound like in your mind you're like, I think we want this game bad enough, it'll be get dice in there.

And it's high school ball, not everyone's always got got there. High school is the most fun you'll ever have playing football the last. I mean, NFL is awesome. College is awesome, but like nothing like with the boys you grew up with playing ball.

Out to three high schools in one year. So I didn't grow up with the boys. I played with Jesus high school year, three high schools, my sophomo year high school to three high schools. You get kicked out?

Would you do around?

Kicked? I was that one. My dad transferred me to his alma mater high school because him and the head coach didn't agree on very much. Sure, so I went there, which is where you and I is that college Cedar Falls iol So was there, and then like five months later he had a job at Oklahoma, and so I was in Norman, Oklahoma. Really, I got there just in time for spring football. That was a new thing to me. I didn't know that was.

Yeah, they don't do spring football in the Midwest. Yeah, d we did. We did spring football.

Oh yeah, look at that. That's one seventy five right there, baby, speed.

That's not a chance that you just get that.

You just get the local schools together and play seven on seven essentially.

But it was basically we got stance.

Oh my gosh, isn't amazing when you look back at your high school film and you're like, what the fuck was this guy doing? What is your techniques? Terrible? And you thought, You're like, I got a lock down, man, dude. My first three years of high school I played nose tackle. I was terrible. I was I was absolutely off zero offers. I was like I was like six seven early. I was my height I am now early, but I was

Nebraska didn't now like you just feel so dominant in high school, dude, you know what I mean?

Everybody peaked in high school.

I didn't feel like that. Well, I would say if you're Reggie Bush. Might they say, like, hey, I peaked in college because he just toyed with everybody in college.

He is the best college you Like, I didn't feel like I just dominated college.

We give him back his Heisman Trophy yet, I know, right, Like we give.

It back to him if you if you win the Heisman Trophy and your mom got a house out of it, the house didn't win you the Heisman Trophy.

Yeah, I don't. I don't. I understand.

And like USC doesn't even take him in. They're not. They don't even like acknowledge that he was ever.

There, right, they don't talk to him nothing.

The best college footble player they ever touched the field?

Dude, you I would sit in middle school, Yes, yes, did you sit in I would sit in middle school and just watch this dude's highlight tape. He was the sickest college player.

Dude.

He was unreal. He really was. I had a weird obsession with Tebow my like, senior year.

Did you need it a lot?

No? No? Like that? What's that? No? I didn't, I've I'm I've been to church since I was like eight, But I like, I was a huge Tebo fan. Me my boys were all about Tea And I met Tebow coming out.

That's cool, humble brag.

Met the guy coming out for the draft. I was like in between the transition after the combine, kind of waiting, and he was at my high school throwing routes with Larry Fitzgerald.

He's cool too.

Yeah, he's a stud. So it was a weird combination. I was like working out and then I got to meet him and I said a couple off in things about Urban Meyer and so it was a bad first impression.

So why.

Why'd you love Tim Tebow so much?

Just like dudes with solid work ethic I'm drawn to. Yeah, No, not necessarily the man I can't get a break with.

The kid had a bad person pressures, so he's got to get it back side of you.

No, no, I gotta get I'm not on the Tim Tebow train anymore. But I do like I'm always drawn to people with like really good work. I think that don't think they just belong to be there, like he He had that, and that was like, that was super cool to me. That post game speech too, yeah, after the lost that was ole miss. Yeah. Oh yeah, he says a bunch of stuff. God bless and walks off. Yeah, that was pretty solid.

I just always like, was it the Florida State game he was covered in like the blood? Yeah?

That was Badassah.

He had one of the first like high school documentaries that you're like, Yo, this dude isn't six.

Yes, he loved him, thank you. Okay, so now we're back on track. Back on top I was.

They had one of the most interesting teams of all time. The year they want to do the championship and that's like who they had on the TV.

They had Cooper who's like saying the N word, and Hernandez he had his deal and by like a man of God. The Pouncy Brothers. First off, I love the fucking Pouncy Brothers. They are all time. They rolled together. They're I was with him in Orlando at the Pro Bowl and I was there too, Humble Bread.

And he was.

They were awesome.

Dude.

I love the Bouncer Brothers.

I've heard nothing but good things about the Pouncy Brothers.

They're all time.

They had they had they had a school wad and they had what's funny is they had Jordan.

Team Lou Murphy. He was on my team Jordan.

Reid when he's healthy. Yeah, solid route runner.

Yeah. Shanahan has said that he's definitely one of the best. He's he's first or second best rout running tight end. He's ever had really other one.

Yeah, I had to go.

I got No, it's not me, he tells me. I'm he said, I'm third or fourth? I was like, who the second and third guys? Just don't worry about it?

Who do I watch that?

Hey?

But he also coached uh sharp Shannon Sharp?

Right? So say he was part of No, I don't know. He hasn't I've been. I haven't gotten too many good stories about Shannon shup. I got to get into it. So, Mike Shanahan's at our place all the time, like watching film and stuff. Do you he's awesome. I'd like to. I'd like to sit and ask him some Denver Broncos questions. That'd be fun, No question, he's probably got some on Yes, for sure, dude.

Should be some questions before before we go, questions, did you have something else?

No, I'm good, go ahead, Well just and if you don't want to do it, it's okay.

So, like my back studies, kind of the mental side of the game, kind of prep, visualization, all that kind of stuff. So I'm just wondering about you guys, you know, like high school, college and that, what did what did you guys do, Like, you know, as far as visualization, did you do anything more official than that all that, Because I mean George and I have worked through a

Bat, and we were awful, dude.

So I'm just I'm just kind of wondering, like how important is that kind of what do you do week to week? What's a game prep for you? If you don't mind just chatting by?

Yeah, I love that question. So in college, I playing for coach Polini, stressful. I don't know if you ever saw coach I don't know if you've ever seen it, best coach, best defensive mind. I ever been around Bo Polini, shout out Bopolini. But I would be you. You would always play. I feel like I was always out there when I when I talk about not feeling so dominant

I'm super into it.

All right, just yes or no? It is fine because I know I want to hear from you. But what about do you do affirmations which it sounds like you kind of toy with them, and then do you mess around with alter ego stuff at all?

Alter ego stuff? Yes, affirmations. Going into Redskins, it was I am a linebacker for the Washington Redskins. Okay, I wanted to say I'm an NFL linebacker, but my mentor, Ben Newman, shout out. Ben Newman would say, you're already You're already crutching yourself saying you're gonna if you get cut. There's thirty one other teams looking at you. He's like, you need it to be. I am a linebacker with

Uh.

I mean, I guess play around with like on you know, on game day and things like that. I'm like, I guess in my own world, but I don't like refer to myself and you're like third person unless I'm just being like funny, But you.

Don't have a developed different identity that you would name or anything like that.

No, that not not that I would name. I guess I mean a wolf, but I don't like really play into something. But I'm super into all that mental self talk.

You say, wolf, Yeah, wolf, that's sick.

Be a fucking wolf.

I'm here in on that.

Let's go. I've been up and down. I've been up and down the wolf thing. I mean that the way the way he put everything. I would say I've started to really do, especially the last two years. But I think the biggest thing in my game that's lacking right now is doing that consistently. So I try in the off season, I do a really good job. I read a lot, like one of the books I try to read every years, the Four Agreements. I don't know if you guys have read that book.

Unbelieve.

I've done a bunch of prison stuff right because my criminal defense that's one of the books i'd take in when I do the institution. Yeah, and it's it's just great.

It's for me. It's always focusing on what you can control. Like if I can't control how the game's going to go, I can control like what I'm doing. I control how i can communicate with the guys. So I'll go and tell you know, I'll tell Derek if it's a you know, a play action play, like, hey, you have my outside on this, I'm gonna help the guard. I need you to be there. And so I do. I'm I'm a loud person, and so I'm always kind of talking through things.

But I do.

I do a lot of things during the week for my body physically. But one of those things I do is I take EPs and solt baths. Yeah, I do it twice a week. But I'll sit there for twenty minutes and I'll turn my phone off or I'll put tones on it, and I'll just close my eyes and take that like those twenty minutes just to decompress as much as I possibly can. Sometimes, you know, where my laziness gets in and I'll get on my phone. I'll start looking at Twitter or doing whatever. But the big thing.

Oh, just to learn how to do this. My next question if you actually do like a daily meditation.

Yeah, my wife is she. I mean she went to like a yoga school when she was eighteen, like it, became a yoga instructor and was like that has been a huge Each part of our lives is like kind of being more spiritually active. So we'll go to Sedona at least once a year. I was there the week after Valentine's Day because the wedding thing I was at, but we were you know, it's crystals, it's going to

Or down?

Can you up and down? You never stay stagnant And so you know, especially like the hardest time for me is around this time of the year, maybe a little earlier. If you don't wat the playoffs, but like decompressing from football, going from a competitive state all the time, especially having

If you want an affirmation worksheet, George's got my numbers, yeah, all right, And then do you actually do visualize as in like I have all my even at the high school level, right, I have them to do we do a visualization.

Before you get them in a room and lay them down and stuff.

We don't do that well we do that as part of because we have yoga now. Actually my daughter, George's sister does the yoga for our school, so they do some of that. But like before each game, we'll do a visualization technique and all that kind of stuff. But I have them, I write a script out for them. They do their own personal information stuff and then the affirmations turn into their visualization technique. So you take that step one and step two. So all my tackles, they're

Yeah, that stuff I mean I'll do. I'll think about, I mean the day of a game, like that's all you're thinking about is how you're going to block this guy, Like what techniques you're gonna use and stuff like that. But I'll go out on the field before every game,

Then you're ready to do that.

But that stuff is that's just proven too that science find it because your brain communicates with your body. Like they did a you know study with like golfers and free throw shooters, like people who all they did in the gym was work on free throws compared to another group that did half half free throws half mental, and then one group that was all mental and the one that was all mental came in and out performed everybody. Really.

Yeah, it's crazy, Halo sport.

It's like a it's a headphones that you put on and basically it like I guess it somehow like charges your brain in a certain way to like help you with performance when you do it thirty forty five minutes before you go and do whether it's a workout condition.

No one's touched me at our facility. Yeah, for some I think we have those.

They have I have. I have that, which I'm very inconsistent in using, but have used it and it really works.

It's awesome.

It kind of even if it's a placeive, I'm a big placeibo guy to man, it doesn't work the metal that it totally helps.

Oh yeah yeah, if you don't think it works, it doesn't work.

Oh, it's it's awesome. And then there's this thing called New Calm, and the whole thing that with newcom is like it uses like you put it to your ears and you put glasses on in headphones, and it's supposed to help you reach a meditative state faster than someone that's been training you know, day like years and years

Nice do you do that stuff?

Oh yeah, I mean we've established a bunch of things, visuals, visualizations wise. I'm big like game day, Like if it's a night game, I'll wake up, go to breakfast. When I come back, I take another nap, and then when I wake up, that's like my routine starts. It's uh like I you know the call map, it's the meditative app. Yeah, I do a calm like ten to fifteen minute meditation right there. Yeah that's a good yeah, really good, such

I love the Joker thing. There's definitely something about the Joker that I associate with as well.

That's you guys. Have you heard the Bo Jackson story. So Bo Jackson got interviewed on this kind of topic and he finally he said, you know, Bo jacksond never played it.

Down in football in his life.

So his story was when he was in high school, he kept getting thrown out of games. Bad you know, family, whatever's going through, and so he get bad temper and all that kind of stuff, and his coach set him down, all that kind of stuff. And then when he was in high school, he was watching Friday the Thirteenth Jason Jason, Yeah, and he he just decided that's me, Like I'm the silent killer. I need to not say anything, you know, like that method kind of methodical, just badass on the field.

Jason bo He's my favorite slasher, poor character.

I love.

I love those classics. Mike Meyers, Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger I love.

I mean Brian Dawkins, I mean, have you have you listened to history or I mean all the action figures and things like that.

No doubt man, that stuff. Yeah, I'm a big believer in it.

If you are your do your players are they gonna listen to the pod? I'll have to give him if they're listening, Hey, listen to coach Kittle. He knows what the fuck he's talking about. Right, ship down.

We don't swear, we don't. You don't.

We don't swear at Lipscomb.

Damn it, write stuff down.

Oh, those are fan questions we'll get.

Yeah, we're not gonna hit all of them.

The pods are usually an hour long.

Yeah, so this has been a solid pod.

Well, you have two guests.

I know this has been a surprise.

Bruce m v P.

Yeah, I didn't have to say a lot. This is awesome.

We need more, We need more out of them. Thoughts on your offensive pass interference in the Super Bowl. We're going down that tough.

That's my thoughts on that. It's just tough. Let's watch it. Let's take a look.

Good block by Staley.

It's tough. It is Expenser ball. Look at that.

You got a flag out there, and you're just.

Yeah, because you pushed backwards.

Uh, sure, white on white crime, dude, I don't know, Oh there it is.

Yes, it.

So I know that. I would say when you push, when you push the left or right, those usually get called a lot, But when you're going like pushing back, does hardly ever get called.

It's right before the ball got there, didn't didn't.

Rudn't have the same thing when we were and it didn't get.

But it didn't get and they reviewed too. Yeah, and his was worse in the league.

Let's knows, it was much worse. It was so because the dbs right there, and that you could see the dvs of Rock. Yeah, I mean, and that I wanted to get called. I'm not saying that.

I mean, I'm all for the offense, but for the tight ends. No, that was a touchdown. I was not a PI.

Yeah that's tough man.

Oh you're saying Rudolph's No, I didn't get it wasn't a PI.

What was the score of the game when that happened to you?

I was ten to ten. It was two players before a halftime, so we would have gotten a field goal out of it. Wow. And we had the ball come out of.

Half even out of bounce too.

Yeah, I know. I'm a big avoid contact, run out of bounds as fast as possible. Yeah.

Fair, that's how you make your career last longer.

Good for you do what you gotta do man, all right.

If you had to pick one guy in the NFL to be your tag team partner, who would you pick?

Oh? Wow, I haven't thought about that, Like if I really wanted to win all the time, like Trent Brown, because I had him. He's the tackle for the Raiders. Ye that's for two years. He's like six seven, three hundred and fifty pounds and he knew he moves like he's two twenty.

He's a unit.

Yeah, so I like that'd be I'd pick him because he would just pick people up and throw him around. But you know, like at the same time, like I'm an, I'm a big office the line guy, like I office lineman on my people. So that's that's why I'm giving you a hard time.

No, that's fair.

I appreciate that accountability.

I love it.

I hate linebackers, but fair enough me too.

Feelings mutual. Yeah, you guys push off all the time, clearly obviously.

Yeah.

You grab all the time because you can't run.

Oh right, here we go, your dad come fight your fights for you.

Greg, he's sixty one, hene what he wants?

Sixty one? Yeah, get on you look solid. You think all the drugs in college would have got to you, but you you got away from it pretty good.

I can't remember very much, but I can go pretty good.

Are you going? Do you see yourself? Are you wanting to be in? Like the WWE when you get down with the ball?

I love WWB like I love wrestling. I like the entertainment side of it. Like one of my favorite parts is they're on like so like that people want to see us once a week for seventeen weeks out of the year, right Like WWE, these guys wrestling in front of fans four or five days a weeks, like they're getting criticized or like they're performing five six days a week year round, and so I just like appreciate their work ethic and how much they go through like to

That's all.

As soon as I did it and like the crowd exploded, seventy five people, I was like, I get why people do this. Like, my buddy's an independent wrestler, and he gets he'll drive from Iowa to Maryland to Texas to Florida and he'll get pale make like one hundred and fifty bucks from the match, but it's just the experience going to do it, and he just loves doing it. So yeah, right there, Yeah, stone could stunner.

That's your profile pick, isn't it.

And that's my buddy on the left. That's her independent wrestler. He played fullback at Iowa.

Have you met Stone Cold yet?

I've not met Stone Cold. He's tweeted at me. I've had a couple of conversations with him. Met the Rock at Super Bowl. I know how sick was that? I almost fainded? That was really really I didn't. I did it. I'm a big fan of it, are you? I mean right, it's all right, I'm a.

Fan and he he posted about you too.

Yeah, I will like. Losing the Super Bowl is one of the worst experiences I've ever felt in my entire life. But the Rock posting a photo of me saying, hey, like I'm a big fan. That helped a little bit.

That that had to help a little bit, a little bit.

Do you have are you gonna? Does the w W like reach out to you to come on now that you're George Kittle.

A little like if they're in town, they'll be hey, do you want to come to the show? Like, like, I gotta go ring side during our bye week, which is just you know, half my chance. And that was that was awesome. Uh. I go to Wrestlmanting with my dad and my buddy Manders for the last two years. We're going to Tampa this year. That will be a fun one. You know, we'll see if I can. Oh yeah, last two years. It's an absolutely like we're in New York class and during w like on Sunday, no chance,

He is Gronk, He's Gronks and beauty.

He's awesome.

What would your wrestling name be?

See? I get asked that all the time. I think that restling him is not something that you choose. It just comes you naturally. And it hasn't come to me naturally yet. So I'm just gonna I'm gonna wait till till it hits me right in the face.

God, I can't wait. I can't wait for that day.

It's gonna be a beautiful, beautiful, like coming out of cocoon.

God. Yeah, butterfly, finally, I'm a butterfly. Let's do one or two more. What do you guys got?

Man?

I wanted to where I mean, we're too far along. I wanted to ask about the father son writing the letters because I sort of got I was sitting I was sitting in my beautiful extended say in Oakland, California, and leg I teared up. I teared up on that segment because I just thought the whole father son thing was pretty awesome.

Yeah, I mean, I'm going to you want to go to Yea? So my dad when was coach at Oklahoma, they had a linebacker who passed away awesome box. But so he was a part of that. And we found out his dad wrote him letters for every single one of his games, like his whole life. And so I was going off to college and you know, again, as a college student, your communications keep your communication skills are very low, like I hardly talked to my parents and

That's awesome.

Oh, it's been great. Like I had a little separation issue in taking off.

It's hard.

So I was coaching ball, so I mean we're you know you and all that kind of stuff is so it just gave me a way to kind of connect and try to encourage him to make good choices and be a good player and all that kind of stuff. And like you said, it's kind of evolved over the years. I don't have very much football stuff I can tell him anymore, you know what I mean. So it's all good. But it's been really fun just staying connected that way,

Man.

It's just like once when he got drafted, like we've been to a field and we was went to a Bears game and all that kind of stuff, and or go up to Green Bay. I took him up there a few times when we lived in Wisconsin. But I love going to the different stadiums, and you know, I just love the NFL crowd. You know, there's just like it's a Sunday. There's sixty five seventy five thousand people just ready to let it loose. And it's adult entertainment. It's

At the league is built for eight and eight it is, yeah, I mean it is.

And to get above eight and eight it's hard. It is really hard. It's hard to win every week. So it's just uh, and so this year was really special. But yeah, just being a little bit of part of that.

He only missed one game this year really really and it was because he had a Friday night. We were played Thursday night in Arizona and he had a game Friday. He couldn't go in my high schall team.

So, but how do you feel about it? Like your son reaching the star power he has. It's such a short time in the NFL, Like what's that mean.

To you as a parent?

You know, it has just been such a wild rush last three years. I mean we've kind of chat about it because you know, at Iowa was kind of you know, whatever catches he had and all that kind of stuff, and then he got hurt his senior year and then combine stuff, you know, I got invited, thank goodness, and all that, and then he performed pretty well, but then draft night was a little bit disappointed honestly, you know,

That's awesome.

That is awesome.

Appreciate you.

Let's have bloss Is obsessed with the forty nine ers. Bo, that's the last question. You can have one question you don't want to ask your dude, don't act like I mean you you always right to ask a question. I'm saying, like, instead of reading one more question, you get the question since you're you're a forty nine ers guy.

Yeah, I didn't even think about it before I came on here.

Did you walk in late? How did you get on the boss? I have a key to the back door.

Yeah, He's like, yeah, yeah, back door big, backdoor guy big.

Would you rather just read one then?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Right now?

Yeah, in awe, what do we have?

Don't ask me anything about the combine? I don't know. No, that's stupid.

With the hard is that you take any of those you want to read? Keep scrolling? Do we have any more?

Cape got to that it was better hair.

Georgia Taylor Hawks for Life eighty nine.

Hawks for Life eighty nine. I know what George Taylor les.

It's the Seahawks. I don't know.

Yeah, it's true.

So I say like, I'll say go Hawks. And then on my Niners Twitter followers, are you kidding me? Like, oh, yeah, what do you mean?

I was like, yeah, went to Iowa, folks, where's your record against Michigan?

One in one? I didn't play an either game. Yes, I was yeah Richer, Hey we beat him? What were they rick number too? Yeah? They came into kinnick Stadia night game ball was super pumped, they're gonna win and under it was a rep. Was he a walk on freshman kicker kicked it through the uprights for the win. He's a monster?

Yeah that's cool.

Yeah, you guys lost.

That's weed, weed and I was in the NFL. You're a part of so I was.

I was.

I will say like one of my biggest, one of my favorite things is so I'm in the NFL. But I will like curb stopped Ohio State my second year. I think that of my rookie year, like fifty five to twenty four. So then we got Bosa, so almost weekly, I'm like, hey, Bolsa go Hawks, Like it.

Sucks due how about the Boa brothers. They're like robots.

I got to hang out with Joey came to the Vikings game. Yeah, and so then he, uh me and the two Bosas hung out after that. They were fun, like they're they're insane.

The wild I saw the dad yeah no way, Yeah, he was walking. It was like Joe Thomas was there too. Yeah, and I was like, Joe, this is this place is way which is white red neck for you. Why they were just trying to get a beer. We're going to go get a beer nowhere.

Yeah, I just want to beer.

Yeah, that is a wild time. Well, bozzn't have a question. Man, We appreciate you coming on.

Yeah, thanks, Well this is super awesome.

Thanks for having us.

I love the element too of dad, and just right out of the gate too.

Yeah, like I'm sure was your was your dad?

Were you loud in the stands when he was growing up playing ball?

Well, he was coaching, like.

He said, Yeah, I know you see him.

No, no, George, you probably get that look and know when he's got to get his you know, asked when he gets home. Yeah, yeah, what do you What are you most mad about? Drop catches, penalties, game, run game?

Oh yeah, bad hands, bad footwork.

I thought I thought he's gonna be an offensive lineman, right, so I mean I played ot and uh.

You know, so I mean respect I had.

I had the small little kid size blocking, you know, and he was doing mere dodge and punch drills ever since he was in fifth grade. Really, oh, because I thought he's for sure to go to alignment. So it's like, you know, in the whole moving guys and so like, you know, I think mostly you know, he pretty early on, but like you know, his first few years and I will work a little bit taxing because he didn't take the game very seriously.

And he didn't I enjoyed myself.

He didn't work as hard as he should have. So but you know, other than that, overall though, he's embraced the grind and he's been a guy that's invested, So that's all been pretty good. But yeah, we're learning to deal with him being a tight end rather than an offensive tackle. But it's it's okay. There's some disappointments in life.

You never saw this, dude, my fifth grade there's some disappointments. Yeah, my fifth grade foot at your.

Mom, like, why you this is obviously you.

Literally fifth grade football team. He was our first day of padded practice, my first year of tackle football. And he has his speech where he has a whole team, we're about to do mere dodge drill, right, just shuffle like fallow footwork, offs line, passet and before he started, goes, hey, look, all of you are going to aspire to the offensive lineman, but not all of you will be good enough, Like

He said that, Yeah, serious, I was the only one I was like no.

I was like no. I was like I'm playing running back, Like no, no, You're not gonna get me.

With true disappointment to a father literally, so you had.

Like like that's tough. That's not The undersized kids in fifth grade, like you put them at corner because they're so small they they'll get hurt. They were trying out for like left guard because they're like, I'm gonna be the best office lineman ever, and you're like, what the heck I had to move.

I had to move a center to a quarterback right, and like he didn't.

Oh yeah, no, that's the thing too, Like POPWORNI. That kind of put the kids that are like a you're an office lineman, play wanting to play it.

That's all.

That's good your psychology coaching. That's good coaching.

Appreciate you, guys, man, thank you for coming around.

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