Bus Don't Lie (with Johnny Manziel & Mike)

There were some who believed he had star potential, some who believed he would be an average player, of ths who believed he would.

Be a bust. I think everything went exactly the way that it was supposed to.

Good evening.

So when you see somebody like a Johnny Football be at the top, you're like, how does this guy not have a perspective on what he's doing?

You know, the rise was really quick and rapid and fast, and everybody wanted a piece of it, and the energy that came with it never once in my mind clicked it. You know, this is what this guy is living and dreaming for to come in and just get in the building, to make any amount of money, and you have this opportunity that you're squandered.

So was it a vicious circle of being in something realizing okay, this is.

It would have been based on what everybody else perceives you as.

So if the NCAA wants to take my fucking nine and four season away and my Chick fil A bull agains due, fuck him below.

Man, Chuck budget guys got over there, dude.

We don't like to get free shoutouts out here, but you slap the boys on it. It's no longer a free shout out. It's officially a collabus. I think we're gonna let some fa you guys, are you guys crush the advertisement for that too? Like every every time I see one of y'all, it's clicking. You got some girl with some boltons fucking snapping a can off going after that, it's uh.

You know what's interesting, it's uh, I would say, I credited to TikTok. A lot of our growth, like things all oomed off on TikTok, just some like kids. There's like sub cultures on TikTok where there's like this drinking culture that I wasn't aware of. But we started, like we went from doing the flash sales on them, where I would.

Were literally in my like fucking house in La.

I had assembly line of like five of my buddies putting these things together like these just assembling them, roughing it.

Figuring it out and start.

And then we would do like we'd just crank out like two thousand.

It would take us like three weeks and then they'd sell out.

But we were I was marketing the whole time in a discrete way, but I was just like kept doing them on my stories.

They'd been what the fuck is that thing?

You know, And by the time we put them on sale, they would just they would fly. So then the first time when we started mass producing, like probably about three four weeks into it, for whatever reason, it went from like, you know, five three four thousand dollars a day in sales to like just quadrupled.

And we had no idea why. It turns out like some.

Big you know, they're like twenty one year old kids, like like kind of Friday kids.

Yeah, like one of them put some music behind it.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's like a.

Lot of his music too. They's just like just smashing beer.

It's two for his music and the choke.

It just became a thit. It just became a thing on TikTok. And then we just when did you start making them? We've been doing We've been producing them for about a year, working on them. Like I acquired I acquired this. So this kid hit me up. He was a college kid making him in his dorm. Just had like a few of them, you know what. It wasn't even really selling them yet. Yeah, and uh and hit me and hit me and.

Got to work through diversity around here. Apologize.

Work through it. We're not as company either, man, work through it.

But yeah, man like hit me up. Was like, hey, man, I got this thing I'm been trying to get in front of you. I happened to see the DM. I said, yeah, send them out. You know, sat in my kitchen in LA for like in a box for like four weeks, and then we're about to go on tour, having a late night festivity over there, and people busted him out.

Clothes, you know, so that's different.

Different.

Yeah, but even just seeing them, you know, I come from kind of like the drinking culture world, you know, so just seeing that reaction, I was like, man, this might be something.

So I ended up flying the kid out.

We were going on tour, the kid out, we met, and then I just slowly like acquired the whole company from him. You know, he's he's in on it partially, but yeah, was.

He get like royalties is at the equity in the company.

I can't. He has some points on the company.

Yeah, you know, I got him a million dollars for it, which she you know, he hadn't made any.

Yeah, he's in college. A million dollars like you make it sound like it's he gave him ten dollars in a pack of chewing gum, and million dollars is a lot of money. Yeah, that's a good deal.

It was, and you know it's it's invested and he has he has points on the company and ship, so it's a great deal for both of us.

But man, it was. It was pretty so pretty lucky, like talk about just like open up your phone.

There's no doub because you're like, oh man, this d he's got.

So yeah, he has like that kind of like he's like a special kid.

He has like that little like inventor's trade, you know, like some people have those like.

Yeah, see something puts it together.

He's just like put this little idea.

You close with the kid?

Or is the kid like he's like that. He actually was out in La like we became buddies.

Yeah, he's out in La.

I think he's going back to Illinois's from Illinois?

Real, where do you go to school?

Couldn't tell you small, small school in Illinois, but you know, just man got lucky.

So yeah, that's awesome.

Been nice.

We got to sell some. I got some, I got some. I got some barstool ones doing Brianna. Do you know Brianna chicken fries?

Yeah, the chicken the one that she's kind of new there.

Yeah, you're doing with her, we're doing one with Dana like some yeah.

Smart a smart yeah, big beer guy. You do do you follow Dana? Do you believe that he's back? That's a been a big thing for whatever reason? Do you think is here? He's here, He's he's relevant. I love that. That's good. I like to see that kind of sport.

I don't know. I just don't know what becomes for he's a good time expect.

Yeah, he seems like a beauty.

I don't know if he's I don't know back for he's somewhere though, But I love like, honestly, it's such a sweet like sweet.

Nice guy too.

Yeah he is.

Yeah, what an interesting way to describe another man. Sweetheart. I love that if someone called me and someone's like, yeah, Taylor, he's a sweetheart. That's kind of that's sweet of them to say, yeah, it's super nice to say, dude.

Probably profession you're not going to get that very often.

No, And also my personality off the field everything else, it really make me call me sweet or anything like that. But uh oh, okay, so we're this is busting with the boys, and it's sponsored by Chevrolet. It's brought to you by Chevrolet. We were sitting here with the ball don't lie crew. That is just Mike and Johnny Manziel. A lot of you guys know Johnny Manziel were actually

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Even though we never went anywhere. We sat here the whole time and we made them sit wasted their time. So yeah, twenty fourteen Draft class, dude, super cool college. We were obviously one of the most dynamic football players to ever play being in college at the same time as you and me and Will watching you. I can't imagine what that was like in college. To start, there's

Correct, Yeah, it was. It was quick man, crazy story. I graduated early, so I got on campus, you know, and at the beginning of January. Anybody else does when they first get there, especially being the young guy in the locker room fucking lost. Yeah, no idea, which way is up? How to get here? Just literally a fucking punk ass kid trying to get into a bar and maybe drink a beer away from your parents for the first time. But yeah, graduate early, go to a and

Hard to say, so I hate cutting you off, but why three? It was a package deal trading carding.

The cool thing was when you go to a like a gas station or something, you hand him ID and the guy knows it's not you or knows it's fake, you can just walk out without having to try and get it back.

Yeah, snap it from him and get out of there.

Hit the hit the right, straight out the door, and just just take off and just beat it. So, uh, you know, that little incident happens. And I'm fourth on the depth chart. Recently walking out of Brian College station jail and uh, you know, looking pretty bleak. And this is July. Fast forward eleven days in THEO you know, college football training camp and play great, win the job in eleven days. We played Foard to the first game and then you know, a Heisman season kind of goes from there.

That was the year you won the Heisman.

So you won the job in eleven days.

How do you?

How do you go up the depth chart? One position?

I credited the Cliff Kingsbury man. That's a guy who really changed my life for the better. I mean, he was like, listen, we're gonna get your feet wet in the spring. You're gonna learn the system. You're going to do this. But you know, he whether we had a depth chart or not, he wasn't grating me off any of that. He was greating everybody what we had in the fall and what you look like coming back after summer workouts. So you know he's I hang out with

Part of that story you're missing out on that I think is you got in trouble and then you ended up having to run like a well that ye, that is a that is.

A big story. There's two. So when I got in trouble at Texas A and M is a big school of like honor code and ethics and things like that, to where if you get in trouble even outside of campus or just in the town and Brian College station, they pretty much send your case to a review board of the school. So when the job in eleven days and then the day after I get named the starter, I go to this meeting in front of this review board.

So this happened. This happened your retrofreshman year, your name is starter, and then he has suspended for a year. Well, how do they send that?

Collect a ton of letters from people within the like our academic office or the place, our study hall, our teacher, coaches, and had to collect probably twenty letters family members back home from high school.

No way.

They all wrote letters for me and probably got about twenty or thirty letters and sent them into the review board. And I went back up for another review and they were sending it to like a lower level of academic probation so I could play sports.

Did you do that or did the school like a good.

Questions something I never really wanted to find out. I was really nervous. Man, I'm just a kid trying to ever touch the field in the sec which less you know, we're playing Florida, the first game at home in front of a hundred thousand people, new conference for us. This is all I could have ever dreamed for. And I get named the starter. In the next day they told me to fucking you're out pretty much.

Do you feel like like you're obviously running twenty gases a day to continue to be the starter, like when you got in trouble and you're having to go through all this stuff, like it seemed like you were pretty remorseful, like you wanted to like, Yo, this isn't this isn't who I want to be, This isn't what I want to do going into unless you were just like good, like fucking grunting those gassers out every day, still thinking like you know, I'm still gonna be fucking you know.

I think it made I think it made me better. I think it made me better for sure. That period allowed me to put myself in a position to have success that I did that year in college. I think I've always worked better with somebody being jumping down my throat and being on my ass because I tend to get lazy and not do shit that I don't want to do a punk ass, but uh, you know, I

Yeah, you think things went exactly the way I was supposed to go.

I do.

That's interesting. It's the only reast when I say that is because like, things go the way they're supposed to go when they're when the things that are uncontrollabile happen, of course, but the things that you and we'll get with this is a little further down the road now, when you got to the NFL, like everything, all the actions were controllable.

Yeah.

Probably so so when you say, like, it's it's all what did you say? It happens for a reason or or it's supposed to.

It was supposed to happen way it's supposed to.

So if you went back, you wouldn't do anything different. You do it the same way. You wouldn't do nothing different.

I wouldn't. I. I uh. For four years, five years of my life, I went through the roller coaster of man,

DA So when you went from the Browns, whould you go from there? You went to the CFL XFL.

Or I took a year off and then I went to the CFL and then went and played in the AAF in the same year.

And when how long did it take you to realize that maybe I didn't love football the way if I love football.

And I walked back into the locker room in Canada for the first time, I was really excited. You go in the press conference, the first couple of days on the field, but when the grind really started and the normal workload and yeah, I mean it's a thirty percent workload in the CFL compared to what we do in the NFL.

Yeah, it's like OTAs every day, right, It's.

Pretty much like you're in the building at nine o'clock, you're done at one o'clock. You get free time to do whatever you want. So, I mean, you spend a couple extra hours in there, you're done in at nine, you're done at three. Compared to what we do on a Tuesday or Wednesday or whatever day in the league where it's early season six thirty in the morning until

You don't want to do this, but you went, You went, uh Canadian League, you went to that spring league, and.

Then I went to that AFF and the AAF in Memphis.

So was it a vicious circle of being in something realizing Okay, this isn't for me, leaving it, being like, okay, this isn't been my identity for X amount of years, my father, the people I love, thinking this is what I'm supposed to be doing. So you get back into it. Yeah, And then it was a vicious circle over and over again.

A lot of it was now I sit back and reflect and call it what it is. But for like a long point in time, I didn't accept it for what it was. I was, you know, listening to outside people or go back and watch an old highlight tape and be like fuck man and go in the backyard right the same ship and throw the ball around the same way. So it just u It took a lot of time and a lot of just I've got to a point now in my life where I'm able to really reflect and sit back on things, and my mood

You seem much more calm. I didn't know you like that, but in twenty twelve at the Walter Payton thing, being around you and I've admiring you from afar, like that's Johnny Manziel. You know what I'm saying. You and I are both all Americans. But I'm looking at this guy going, fuck, that's the you know, that's whatever.

I'm in the class.

I'm in the class with this fucking dude.

Yeah, and then you go to the bar.

And you're fucking you're holding court, dude, and like all everyone's around you and I'm looking at you like I want to do that. I want to be a part of that shit. And so but your energy was so high and you seem like you're so onto the next thing. Looking back on it, obviously at the time, I'm like this, I want to do that shit too, you know what I'm saying. I was getting just as much trouble on a way smaller scale, and.

What bottom I like, I've been I've been buddies with him for through the or less, probably twenty fourteen.

Yeah, I mean even probably even before that.

I've known him a long time, and that was kind of the idea. You know, we talked about this for a while. I just wanted people to see the the side of him that you know, there's there's a lot of connotations obviously that have traveled with the story, and it's obviously a notorious story, like just you know what he's gone through and what it looked like from Afar, but knowing him then and being with him through it, you know, and just in La we were neighbors for

I want to let him work through what he needed to work through.

And then it got to a point I'm like I could feel that there was a level of peace where like he had clarity. He went and did Canada like you know, I remember we were doing a comeback season thing. I did some branding stuff for him then too, and he didn't have like clarity on he didn't have closure or.

Clarity on it.

I feel like those were necessary steps for him just as a friend, like go look, go get that last nut up, like see if see if you can do it again?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, does it still get your fucking dick card or not?

You know what I mean?

And I remember talking to him, He's like, man, it just doesn't you know? And then what ball don't lie? Would I think that? What that real undertone of that is just like when you ask him that question, like would you do it different? You know, the realization We've had a lot of these late night conversations and talks about these types of things, and that was kind of the main realization.

It's like, dude, if it's not in your heart and your mind, and.

Your soul like your your God gifts, you know, he's God gifted talented at football, right, But at some point, if it doesn't get your rocks off, and it's not what you want to do, it's to be it's supposed to do, yea life, you.

Know what I mean. That's what I wanted him to share about.

You know, just from that perspective, it's just like, man, at some point, what is it really about?

You're living your life.

So if you don't get up and man like, go, I gotta you know, obviously it takes a lot of mental fortitude. You talk about fortitude all the time, but to be an amazing quarterback in the NFL, I only know what he tells me. But just the level of preparation, yeah, you guys, the level of dedication it takes.

And if it's not in your heart to do that, like for anything in any walk of life, you know what I mean.

That's how I feel like it's not in your heart of hearts to go pursue that with all of your passion or as much passion as it takes.

And it's not your path, you know, it's not. It's not the path that.

You're supposed to walk forever, you know, And that's how I felt, and I think that's what that's really what, Like I wanted to share in the Ball Don't Lie scenarios, just like I want him to share that side of it, just like dude, that was.

A bait thing that took off, Ball Don't Line. That was the reason why you guys want to start something.

I mean, we we didn't have a bunch of talks like this, just about life and being two guys around the same age trying to just figure it out. Like a lot of Mike's music has been one step after another, learning as you go, and I felt like, you know, I learned more. You know. The rise was really quick and rapid and fast, and everybody wanted a piece of it, and the energy that came with it was just through

We had a lot yeah too, like and it's like, you know, would you do anything different, like living in

Yeah, it's really what drove a lot of my mental health struggles and a lot of things. It took me years. Man, I went through a point where my schedule flipped around and I couldn't sleep throughout the middle of the night, and I would sleep during the middle of the day.

Do you know as far as like a career, do you know where you want to go from here?

You know, Luckily, you know, in our draft class in twenty fourteen, if you're a first round pick, you got to make a decent, pretty amount of change and a big Nike deal too, right, I had a nice little Nike deal, got some great great sponsorships, and then you know, been free freelance. In the last couple of years. I did a parstol with podcast or a podcast with Barstool for a year on college football. I've been just doing some stuff here and there, and you know, just kind

Depression.

I'll do that to you, no doubt.

Depression is a real thing for sure, William. What a perfect stopping point.

Oh bro, this is this is light. I love this is light.

Bro.

Smook you out.

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In the middle of something and we're going back and forth. Jaw sets were happening, and then I had to go to this and the whole reading thing.

I see him, he's up in the he's up in the screen and I see beads a sweat coming down.

It was a hot day and I'm thinking, like that was a hot day more than you're doing.

Great.

Man literally quits like he's just losing something ten years old, Like we'll finish this ship.

Nervous? Did I get nervous?

Easy?

He was out there, Dude, Dave does like the chirp. Yeah, he's he's about that.

Before we got on. I've known Dad forever. He's, uh, do you know the cave? You ever hear his rap? His rap song?

No?

Yeah, got it was.

It was like probably like three four years before you guys got into him. Him and KFC did like a rap fist back and forth and I produced it out for him and like, yeah.

But I've known Dave forever and it's we talked about it.

I think on a few of one of our episodes, our past episodes.

Just like as much as.

The Barstool growth and their expansion as a company has been so impressive.

I mean, I give David Flowers all the time. I seen him personally. I know people he's.

A big chirp guy, but his personal like brand, just Dave Portnally has been super impressive to watch.

Did you really like dude?

I know him fucking long, Like I've seen I've seen the trajectory and just seeing like what he's done and the moves he's making.

It just makes a lot of sense. But it's impressive as much as barstool itself is super.

Impressive, right, but his own indust.

Own thing, it's crazy, it's impressive. Well. Watching his twenty twenty we we touched on a little bit last week. His the way he took down a pandemic, the content he was able to put out over and over again, the unboxing, the frozen pizzas. I've eaten Jack's pizza before, but literally every time I think of Jacks pizza and I think I'll fuck those guys because of the importantly he said fuck these guys. He was so mad about it, dude, he did such a great job.

But we looked at it with like the amount of people he's helped to last year, the whole yeah small business thing, and the amount of athletes and people he got to give back to people who still to this day desperately desperately needed it. I thought that was not special at the same time as he can be and people have, you know, to say what they had to say about him, Fuck all that a guy's he really is, and.

The way he will just get mad though you know how it is like every people want to get mad about something. We're in a group chat with him. He will he left Nashville. We're in a group chat with him, and he's like telling them soft Preds fans go fuck themselves. So I'm like, here come the clicks, dude. I pull up my Twitter. Let you guys know self ass Prends

One of those out like even absolutely success, you've had it, Uh, Like I'm always reaching for more, Like that's that's my personality is like I always like, you know, how.

Can I stay relevant as a football player? How can I keep What's the next thing I can do to make myself that much younger. I'm turning thirty this year, and it's like I tore my ACL, I had a PD the year before. It's like, yo, how can I stop the bleeding on this? Like these last two years? And yeah, dude, when you read that stuff, it does suck. It's it's a it's a hard thing to look at because you're like, well, especially when you're trying your best, like legit, I'm giving it in my all course, and

You know.

I talk about sports fans a lot. It's an interesting dynamic really is.

Just between fans and players. Like having that access.

It's just like it's just an interesting perspective that sports fans have that I I feel like is kind of not outdated, but it's just like it's like there's a disconnect, like don't have any ownership of these players just because the team.

You live in this region, and your.

Team's paying them a lot of money because they're the best in the fucking world. In this right, you have no say in how they fucking lead their lives, you know what I mean?

Or like there's literally people like shut up and.

Do this, you know what I mean, Like the'll shut up and dribble stuff.

And yeah, as.

A fan, how the hell in your mind you think you have that? Say? Like, it's just an interesting dynamic.

Like I don't I don't ship on sports fans, but I'm just like I feel like they're out of touch. I feel like they're they're like a little bit disconnected of like reality in the sense of what's really happening going on at home with them.

You know what, You can be a real sports fan and just know that shit's going you know, they vicariously through you, dude.

They see us on the field, they see you making music. And there's two ways in go I want to be that, I'm gonna strive to be that. Or Jelsey comes out, Well, how come he gets to be successful? How come this guy gets to do this? Well, this guy's not taking advantage advantage of this situation And that's.

Their one connection to being like in that dream of all stuff, and like you said, why can't I be in that position?

Like I was.

Stoked to have this, to have you on the bus because I came right before you. Guys. I think we played each other in a preseason game. But I just know from uh huh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know from an undrafted player's mindset when you watch like what where you were and what you had and everything else, and it get cut get swindled in my mind because I'm obviously at that point in time, my identity is full.

I would say I lost a huge part of my competitive spirit when I got to the NFL. I would say, when I got handed you know, this amount of money, this first round pick, you're going to be the core. I just something about when I went to Cleveland, whether it was you know, my first couple OTAs or training camp or that, all of the confidence that I had, you know, and acquired from college going into the NFL. I the time September rolled around, in Game one rolled around,

Think.

I mean, people did it all the time. Jerry Jones did that allegedly with Dez Bryan. I don't know it. I don't know the guy personally, but I'm sure I've heard that he had like a legit like a babysitter, like hey, you can and can't do this in the beginning of his career and kind of helped him on that path. And then, you know, fit is everything. I got drafted Tennessee at eleven I was fucking pissed, not because it was Tennessee, but because two guys are drafted

Yeah.

He got caught with like one hundred and fifty eight pounds of weed in a BMW. How do you how do you fit that in a coop?

You know what I'm saying, Like, you get pulled over?

You know your bro that thing he get pulled over? He was like by U tap, Like he's like an OL passa at the border, Like there's cops everywhere, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, happened like two years ago. I think it was the last off season. But the what I was trying to get out was, you know, Cleveland, they had a lot of success this year there where they've really turned around the culture and I'm super happy for them. But at the time, and nobody wanted to

Well, we had a I mean I got I got to be My first sure offensive coordinator was Kyle Shanahan. So from the football side of that, with him as far as the offense goes, was a real fucking treat to be around that guy and get to watch him coach you know o Wine tight end receivers. As far

Tell you that stuff.

I mean, I had our quarterback coach, Dal Logins, he was he was awesome, Markansas se see guy. We had a cool relationship and we talked about a lot of this shit because them being coaches in the league for you know, four or five six years before that, they

It's got to be tough on his side to see.

I see it from his side though, I completely get it. If this punk kids in the way of my job, I'm gonna outwork him and out out out fucking grind him to go make my fucking four million bucks from the Browns and go on and try and make ten or twelve from Houston. That puts my kids through school, no question. But that changes my life to where my house is better, my life is better, my way of

Yeah just like that.

You yeah, down every day, teach protections.

Do this.

I came from a system in college where we're looking out and if the linebackers tucked in, we're literally throwing a bubble to the fastest guy on our team. That's how we ran our offense. Fucking can can and flipping the play and all this, like that's just how how it was. I'd go, Jake Hook, throw the bubble, Jacob, We'd figure it out. We just ran backyard style of football. But you see the comparison from that first year to the second, and you know, I learned, I love, I

You know, so I like that?

Yeah? I yeah.

That building, dude, I mean the only like I had to be tough twenty fourteen Joe Thomas the best thing in there. Yeah, I mean other than that, Like you guys are win one two games a year.

We were seven and four going into our Thursday night game at the break and then we lost all five coming home. That's tough, brutal real.

Isn't it crazy how much dysfunction that there can be with certain teams, like in the NFL.

Especially growing up, because you're like in the NFL, look at anything that's it. You think everyone's legit, you think everyone's a style, you think all the coaches got their shit together. Yeah, Like you can get there and you're like, oh, this is.

In playing it is a little bit better than playing

It's really downgraded from A and M to C.

Yeah, you see, Oh money goes to the players, not facilities and how the players actually keep up with their bodies and stuff like stuff like all that. It's it's nuts, man.

The NFL is a crazy The game has changed a lot than when we were growing up kids watching the NFL. I feel like in the last five or six years, not only are guys playing longer just because of I feel like the training method is certain things, but there is a Miles Garrett type of motherfucker coming out in the draft every single year.

It seems like every years. Oh, this guy's the best grade in the last forty years. This guy's the best grading. Like these just more f.

They are more playing fourteen years, Chase Young comes out this year, there's gonna.

Be in other one that comes out of this show, another one at Ohio State Dude House. It just kicks him out right now.

Like legit, bigger, faster, stronger. But it's like when does it?

Is it?

Everything? Have you seen Miles Garrett?

Yeah? Cross said that poor little white dude on the court.

Did you see that? Cross him twice? And Dug staring at him like could he put in the NBA? I don't he got up bodies and dudes?

Yeah, I mean get that put him in there? A foul people foul out, all right?

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Honestly, I can't. There's something about it.

It's something about my you know, when I'm on social media and I see I see so many kids and young kids and dudes I know in LA that aren't like that, you know, in the influencial world. I lived in LA for almost seven years, so like just I started seeing it happening, like you know, there's obviously been a big boom, but I just.

Something about it feels slightly faulty to me. I'm just going with my gut, like I can't. I can't really like get behind it completely.

And my you know, my money guys would just say, hey, you can put it a little bit.

You know, but yeah, they wouldn't advise, you know. I asked them, like what they would advise. They'd say that said like one to five percent.

That yeah, that's what like I want to say that the big money firms have came out and said like, hey, be a part of your portfolio.

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Alex, I get it, though, I get it, you know what I mean.

I definitely love the idea, like a decentralized thing, you know, but I'm just super curious what like the Fed's gonna do with it.

That's the thing that scares the ship out of me. Two things scare me. One, if this thing starts getting too strong America, China, these world dominators are going to be like, you're not gonna make our dollars zero.

China's already said you can't trade boom there it is. That's what That's what tangd this.

And then the other side of it is I'm terrified of getting left behind, make all this money. I'm doing real good, and then all of a sudden, there looking at this paper, you don't mean nothing, you know what I'm saying, Because now everyone's doing crypto, everyone's doing that. It's kind of scary, interesting time to be laugh for sure. It is very wild out here, dude.

Yeah, yeah, So back to the pot. Where were we at?

I think we're just talking any and I think it seems like you're doing really well.

Man. Things things are things are great. I have I have no complaints, you know, just uh fuck man, Go play golf in the morning. I have a couple of cocktails, hang with the boys, maybe laid by the pool. Yeah, tradefolio.

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We've had enough cocktails in the last seven days in National this place, Fox, Nashville.

Fox, What a town. We can definitely talk about Nashville because this place has been this.

How's your guys experience been traveling a lot? I'm probably gonna move here. Uh we've been talking a little bit.

Yeah, well you text me back in February and I'm moving in March first. Yeah, you've been.

One like, uh pretty, I'm as bout as close as to nomad as you can be right now.

Yeah.

I uh, you know one I started. I started doing it when when COVID happened in l A. I was just like, I get the fuck out of here. You know, it was very very strict there. It's just like kind of had wanted to leave for a while. Not your typical l A type of guy. Really everyone's wanted to leave too, is there a long time?

Yeah, yeah, And it's just like it's just a certain vibe there that.

It doesn't get my you know what I mean, doesn't get the rock.

So so it looked that felt like an opportunity to just and I and I kind of you know, I've been a touring man for a long time, with tour a lot like in the last probably you know, six seven years. So I love being around different places and I make music and podcastings. I do it all in my house really so and it's fairly easy nowadays.

Like I had your buddies over there.

They came and helped us produce one of our episodes last week and showed them our setup, like my music set up.

To my fucking bedroom just running gone.

It's super simple, like it really is, and it's and you can make studio quality, album quality stuff. So I just kind of noticed as I was traveling and started doing this, like I get new energy everywhere I go, you know, there I get a I got a new feeling, you know, the new things, new people. I'm seeing that I definitely am able to channel creatively and I feel that, you know, especially after being there seven years and making it more or less, you know, making music in the same three rooms.

Yeah, these two studios, I've worked in my house.

So you know, it was just it was something I want to lean into for as long as I can.

And Nashville definitely is on top of the totem.

Poll as far as like where I would settle again, But I'm not a huge rust to settle.

Why would you? It seems like I'm like watch and following you guys. It seems like you guys got a great gig going for you guys. You know, kids, you can go figure stuff out. Well, where have you been? You've been to Montana Scott's on here.

That seemed like the dopest spot is Montana Animals every day and that.

Anyone. I literally didn't see anyone the entire time, and it was awesome. It was what I wanted, you know, a.

Lack of energy. Tough though, I feel like I feel like I've missed that a little bit, Like, well, the awesome.

Going I'm going places more or less for like two to three months.

So so there we actually extended.

I actually only got that for like I want to say, I started was six weeks and I extended to like nine weeks there because we loved it. But at the end we're like it it was really nice. It was really really nice. And and and I'm a big I'm a big nature guy. I've gotten a lot further down into spirituality and just I like.

I like peace and quiet, I really do.

So I know it doesn't look like it all the time, but yeah, just like the ying and the yang of it both, like I like, you know, we went to Scottsdale, which was fucking raw raw. We were going nuts. You know, it's a super fun place Montana, you know. And then I kind of that's kind of what we're doing in flip Flopping. I'm also haven't toured in a few years. So obviously as soon as this this is all kind of calming down with COVID, you're seeing the events open

So what's the rhythm with ball don't lie?

I mean it's every it's every other week. Yeah, we're doing bi weekly, but it's pretty much by we as many as we can whenever we're around. You know, we haven't really talked about doing any guests or anything because you know, we're I would say, we're maybe moving a little bit different than most people that are doing the podcast of at least for me, like talking a lot more about life and just like our experiences we're going

Uh.

Something I want to have fun and share a little bit of my message and something that you know we're going for. You know, we've got to travel around do something in Scottsdale here, I'm going for self sustainable broch shit where you know, around.

My dogs and underrated that's an underrated thing to say, Yeah.

Yeah, that's not seriously, I know a lot, Like I've no tons of athletes. I just wanted people to like hanging out. It's just been my favorite guy to He's just a fucking good old boy.

I like good old boys, like you know, being talented or being successful.

Trust me, I like I like to compete, you know, like what you're saying about competition. That's actually been something that I adam like, I adamantly work on getting rid of that chip, like looking at life and that's bottom line, like kind of a lot of my podcasts like you DM and we talk about it, like a lot of it's on like self growth because I just perspective change. I was very very much in the athlete bubble my whole life growing up, and and.

Just what that does to you.

What it takes to be great, you know, like to be a great athlete, It takes that takes that ego of like man, fuck you, it's a competition, fuck you, fuck you, I'm better, Like I'm gonna work hard or why not not me?

You know, like, And it's been interesting. It's been really interesting for me personally.

But I know he's like he's been on this wave and I kind of wanted to just see people have have people hear him talk about how we talk when we're on a balcony in my house, like or traveling around.

We have these talks.

And I was just like, let's just do a podcast, fuck it, you know, I just want people to know.

I want people.

Well, he came on Mind and it did really well, and people like, dude, thanks for showing Johnny like that. I didn't even know Johnny was like I thought he was a fucking deuce, you know, like what she's just because.

Usually people control the narrative that when you don't have your own right and like I would never he's.

Just not you know.

So I was like, Yo, why don't we do it and just let's just talk how we talk, you know, And and that's really what it leans. It leans a lot more. It leans a lot more like kind of guy's guy like work.

Honestly, it's like.

Trying to trying to go more down the spiritual like path of enjoying life, and you know, like the regrets. This is a guy who you know, I know what I do to myself if I fuck up, and I have one million people paying attention to watching what he had, you know, so I'm actually inspired by people like that

So to have a lot of people watch.

And kind of have that and break that, break that down, break those walls down where he can be happy genuinely, like have a comforting energy to be around, be a nice person.

It's inspiring me. I like that.

And it's relatable because everyone says their listens like oh damn, Like everyone goes through Yeah, sure, everyone's.

Got I mean, as much as we get hyped up, and whether it's music or sports or whatever it is, you're put on a pedestal when it's really not. I mean, everybody has the same problems at home this that that anybody across the world has. But the media and sports, traditional media at least what we deal with in the locker room or anything like that, doesn't pay a lot of attention to it a lot of time a time

Like yeah, do you think my way?

So like the whole the whole thing is kind of like shifting and just changing to where you can tell your story the way you want to. And I think hearing you say earlier about like getting on Twitter and seeing certain things. I've used the app button on Twitter to see what people say to me, right, I've used to it just people in my mentions, whether it's random fans or all this. Yeah, I've used that to over

You gottammo, you got am on everybody.

I'm ready to go. My favorite thing now I use it as that hit me and made me feel some type of way. Why does that make me feel that way anymore? Why do I feel like that in my head or in my heart that makes me want to get mad at this person, want to say something back or react negatively or something that I'm going to regret.

For the process that people are listening to this going fuck, I deal with that all the time. So when you see something that makes you upset, what's the process you go through to get rid of those that feeling inside?

I've I used to be a the same fast twitch where I was on the football field, I was in every aspect of my head throughout my life. I see something, I react right away. Yeah, my biggest thing is just to take back and look at it and just kind of whether I type it out immediately and something that I'm not gonna send, I review it, I look back at it. I make sure that that's how I want to interact with people. And I'm the biggest believer these days and positivity and good fucking vibes. I have no

The biggest thing is you've hit it yourself for a for.

A long time. I mean nobody, you don't, at least for me. I beat myself up more than anybody in the media or anybody outside the world ever could have every day to the point of where I was questioned in my life if it was worth it was this, And it got to a point of where I never thought I'd have a good sunny day. Yeah, I didn't know if I'd have a day where I was ever

That's very cool.

Football is like a football elswell said, by the way, Yeah, you like that, But dude, football is I mean to be to be great at what y'all do.

It just takes so much aggression. And you know what I mean, really wired. You guys are wired different, bro, Yeah, fucking trenches. I try to We played you guys.

Yeah, your first away never was against the Titans. Congratulations, thank you very much. Yeah, that was awesome. I was outstanding. We're a tough flight home. I'll tell you that. It was a tough flight home for the boys.

I figured everybody would want to get the hell out of cleaning.

Yeah, at that point, I was like, give me the funk out of here. That's tough.

But you're just savage, you know what I mean, Like you're I appreciate that, and but you're wired in a certain way where that's why you are.

That's why you're so great.

You're obviously God's gifted and talent and size that's rare.

Yeah, forty three forty three hundred dolls, dude, hopefully one of them got my back. Dude, that's pretty solid. But I just don't that's it's tough, dude. Like having the mindset you talk about all the time of being like competitive and yeah, like we were bred the same way. If you play football at a young age, it's kind of like you fucking scratch and claw, and you keep going until that guy quits before you. And if you quit,

Wow.

And even when I'm at the Preds game chugging the beer, thank you very much, I'm a colleg yeah, and I was like, okay, yeah, I felt bad. I did feel like back to life.

I did.

But even when I was drinking the beer, dude, my only thought was don't drink this beer because if you do, that's inflammation. Then your needs this and that. So I just poured that thing all over me. Didn't consume one of it.

Wow, one ounce, That's crazy, that was your thought them.

It's just it's wild how it consumes you and watching your process of what you go through. Just because our successes have looked different in the NFL doesn't mean I don't battle the same thing as you do. Every single NFL player deals with that, whether they want to admit it or not. So when I'm going through and I see that, I know that it's possible for me to now change my mindset when I get out of there, because the way I live it's so obsessive and it's

It's great. It's great that you're like that, though. Yeah, that's the first step is getting is getting your mind to allow allow it to think that way. And maybe a lot of it's just the youth and and like maybe the football growing up, but maybe it's just just being young and getting to a point of where maybe you're everybody reaches the point and maybe where they're able to start having their mind go to that point where

I think there's a shift happening though, And I mean, dude, I didn't grow up like I didn't think about any of this ship.

I just trying to fuck as many girls I could still.

Be the best in our sports.

It hasn't hasn't changed much there.

To go to the bar, you know what I mean, Like just the idea of like I just know, like it actually gets it actually gets me out of bed, It gets that gets my rocks off to like think that I'm I'm seeing things on a bigger scale and it's not. I realized, Like bro, I think most of us walking the streets, like athlete or not, you're so immersed in your own bubble, like think you can zoom

And that's where I feel like Johnny's gone down that path.

And I think most people like my stuff and listen to some of my stuff that I'm talking about.

I'm not going from a preaching perspective. I'm just saying, dude, I was the opposite.

I was such a you know, I wasn't outwardly egotistical, like oh I'm the man fun you know, but like in my head, it was all about me, every relationship, how I reacted to my girl, you know what I mean, even the way I was thinking about things just.

Not I just realized at one point I was like, dude, everything.

I really think everything revolves around me all the time, and it's not.

It's not the case. You know. If I would have wrote down my character traits of how I treated people and what I was doing at my time in the league twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, it would have been just a horrendous list of not even doing it by accident. But like Mike's saying, just thinking things revolve around me

Yees go, how do you think you chase happiness?

Though? Man, I'm starting to be honest with myself probably and what I like to do. You know, for a long time in my life, like I said earlier, I didn't like doing much of anything. Going and picking a football up didn't make me happy. Going and riding a dirt bike or doing this, or going to blake or doing any of that. Golf didn't all. None of this stuff really really made me happy anymore. So now me

Yeah, it seems like it's like enjoying like just the small things that like bring you joy. Because when you when you when you say that, I'm like, and I get this from like the book we were on self awareness, because a lot of this shit we're talking about is

You spend more time with yourself by yourself throughout a day than you do anybody else, your wife, whoever it may be. You spend probably more time in your own head with yourself twenty four hours a day, seven days a fucking week. If you can't fucking be honest with yourself, how are you gonna be honest with other people around it?

Yeah, I love that.

Oh not the conversation you thought Johnny Maanzel was gonna come on and have.

But here we are.

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Due, I like, I like this question on the screen. I want, I want. Will Julio Jones be a Titan?

Yeah? I think so?

Do you think so?

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If Julio goes to the Titans, like cancel Christmas dude on paper man, how is that not one of the better offenses is gonna watch this I'm not is all about that.

Verbal's all right, I'm not on the Titan.

I'm a big fan of Tannehill. You like, he's an Aggie. We love him. You give him, Julio, what the weapons you guys already have? I think you, uh, how could you not have? I hopes?

I mean you got Derek Henry at two thousand yard rusher an O line like they have a j Brown Julio Jones on the other side, Tannehill delivering the rock. Anthony firkser, Oh yeah, don't sleep on for guys.

Big sure, yeah, probably runs a five flat four, but he has like a one four ten split dude, Yeah, yeah, sure.

What's your take on this?

I don't think it's it's Cam Newton is the best player to ever lace them up.

As take unpopular opinions, I think, I mean, you're arguably that Tim Tebow's arguably.

That I said it took a bow to I was gonna say I took a national championship to be considered the go to college football I would I would think that would would have to be fair.

That's a fair that's a fair statement.

Reggie Bush definitely gets a bad shake because he took a little money in college.

Jesus, he did what.

He did what every college football player wants. They all want to get like, oh, hey, we you know, am I going to be recruited high enough to give me a little vehicle?

Mean? This is this is the whole thing that, hopefully in the next couple of years changes in college football is. And these guys come from nowhere to get a chance to go play football. And guys are coming up to you, you know, offering you money or this and that. This is more money than you've ever seen in your life your family has in their bank account. Tell them you're gonna punish this kid because of that, because maybe his family got a Malibu beach house while he was playing

Think that's a bad thing at all. I was praying to the gods I would get some money in college. I would did I go check that mailbox? Goddamn another bill I was hoping for. I wanted something.

But even at Michigan bro.

I caught myself a couple of like free meals. Every once in a while, I go pay a tab and they'd be like, now, don't worry about it.

Oh line. In any college locker room or NFL locker room, it's funny. For the most the O linemen that I feel like I've been around, they're always about the free meal, the free.

Get that free Shoot, that's all I got it. If I ever got something it was like a free meal, like some waffle fries and a chicken sandwich, I'd be like, hell, yeah, let me get that tab, I guess, and they're like, no, don't worry about it. And I'm like walking the class like I'm a fucking gangster. I'm out here breaking NCAA violations. No problem for some waffle fries. But you hear about like Matthew Stafford getting five hundred thousand dollars in his mailbox and.

Everybody wanted to walk in and have that nice envelope sitting.

Yeah did You might have talked about this a couple of times before. Yeah, dude, I got lucky. I went. Yeah, we went to we would go to like the Wild World of Sports for the College Football Awards at the end of the year. And then if you want an award there. We went to Miami and it was for the National Championship Game, and I'll never forget getting off the plane and walking the baggage, claiming, this guy comes up behind me. I didn't have my fucking bows noise canceling.

Everybody wants everybody wants that. That's when the show was hot.

I was watching it every day. At this point. I had to have the boys around. Vinnie Chase guys, and I had this. I had one of my boys take this guy's number. We're doing all sneaky. We don't want to get caught. We're trying to learn from everybody else that's got caught, and uh, you know, may or may not have gone back to this guy's condo and signed probably ten thousand pieces, oh relads everything.

So he got out.

He gave me three grand, got this port. I'm on Instagram trying to find out how to get a table at live.

Do you guys have.

Five hundred dollars minimum stage tables Live on Sunday? It's like, what I'm going for it. So I'm signing these autographs and this other guy who's like bringing the bringing the pictures over, He's like, yoh, you're getting fucking ripped off. Here's this guy's number. Hit him up. He'll give you thirty grand. And I'm like, fuck yeah, man, I'm three and then thirty. I'm gonna get out of here with thirty three grand.

For those of you with the caculator, that's thirty three thousand dollars.

So this guy pretty much is like, all right, go to this room with the fountain blue. All the stuff will be in there, laid out, and when you're done, just send me a picture of all of that. I'll give you the code of the safe. The money will be in there. Yeah, that's some fucking probably probably.

Football.

For the next four months, I went to that fucking condo once a month in fucking South Beach. Knock that shit out. I am a professional boxer and unboxer. Every mini helmet flat picture you could see. And it's funny when I signed autographs these days with my guy out of New Jersey, He's like, Jude, you's fucking packing yourself. I'll give you some extra bucks. No ship, but I got to go down. I got to I got to make a somewhat of a decent living in college. And we went.

Times a year.

We went nine six week next year. So if the NCAA wants to take my fucking nine and four season away and my Chick fil A Bowl against Duke, fucking blow me.

One of the NCAA said, hey, we're taking your we're taking your ship away. You're a hetman.

I never took a dollar until after I won the husband.

He's got a feature, he's got a bright a fact.

And I think my statute of limitations are up. So you can blow me again again. How's how's the wheel?

It's good, dude, it's sucking hurting right now.

It's your first major major surgery.

First only surgery. I got my tonsils out though, when I was twenty one, so that was kind of a lie. That ship was brutal, d ill us like twenty five pounds.

Yes, I got out with with no broken bones, no, no snuffing, no never. That's a That was a big part of it for me too. I was starting to get a lot of concussions at the end, though, Were you really which was bad? I got my ass knocked out in Canada going for the goal line. Wake up, like four lineman picking me up. A couple of minutes later, I'm like trying to run off the field like I was trying to run down Broadway last night.

It looked quick, looks quick. Yeah, this is my first surgery. It's been way harder than I thought it was gonna be. When I first got I was like, man, four months, I'm gonna get clear. I'm gonna fuck this thing up. It's not been that road at all. It's been way harder. I guess you's got it. I'm fucking up.

It's the best one though.

Would you love a Georgia booth? Yeah?

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I love that.

Yeah, but we need wealties because we don't get free shoutouts around here. Boys.

Man, you crushed it.

You crushed that way. I was nervous. I know you are kind of the four of us getting a good friendship, and I was like, don't ruin it now. Yeah.

I respect that for keeping the highlighting there. My only critique would be, as he gets into making the examples, we just go ahead and lower it. Because he was he was hitting those middle ones. We might not get to this.

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That is it's more position there. He knows the boy can't read that. This is the best routing I've done in a while too. If you guys go back, Thank you. Very much a lot. We had a couple more things. Are these the questions that were put out on Twitter? No, we didn't get oh Man touched on most.

Of the stuff there.

Twitsch kind of ruthless like that. Which quarterback will make the biggest impact this year? Which quarterback will make the bigges impact this year? Johnny, it's a great question.

I don't know who's going to start. I guess Trevor Lawrence is going to start for sure. I would not, you know, put my money on the fucking Jets, so any of the other I would. I would say Trevor Lawrence. I like Trevor Lawrence the most out of this class. I think the guy's stud Jacksonville's got to be good eventually.

Huh yeah, keep a lot of it.

You still keep up with, like watching the quarterbacks and all that time.

I'm definitely more of a college football fan. I I uh, I'm definitely more of a fan these days. I don't necessarily have a team other than watch A and M and support my guys there. But you know, I'm a fan of you know, the real of the guys who like us come on the boss and hang out and do that. But you know, I did get a chance to watch a lot of these guys plays. I think, you know, probably the best situation will probably have to

But Mac Jones had to compute Cam Newton.

Yeah, but he might be in a good situation because you don't know how to I think.

I think Justin Field will probably get thrown into the fire a little bit, and uh in Chicago, and and then you got Trey Lance and San Francisco is probably gonna get the wait half a season and the probably be thrown in there as well. So the guy who's gonna start from opening days is probably has to be Trevor Lawrence. Maybe's that Wilson. I don't know who else. They haven't uh getting rid of Darnold. I think he

Do you think? Uh? You think Tim Tebow is gonna make it make the team in Jacksonville.

I would be uh. I would be surprised if he went from playing quarterback to uh to making the team as a tight end. But I will say this, I would be very, very stupid to ever doubt and say that Tim Tebow can't do something. I am a huge t Bow guy. I go to the Heisman every year because I don't fucking play football anymore and every other guy does. So it's Teebo and me and we're next to each other every year that I've been and he's a legend, stand up guys, definitely a lot different than me.

That'd be bad as if he did that.

I would love to see him come back. I mean, I remember the last memory of t Bow in the NFL for me is uh is I feel like the game winner to the Marius Thomas on the slant against the Steelers in the playoffs. You know, that's all. That's all. That's a playoff win that. You know, a lot of other quarterbacks who are making a lot of money, you know, can't say that they have under their belt.

No pain. It's hard to bet against Tebow. You're right, That's what I'm saying. He's got like the dudes about it.

It's like huge, he's jacked, he's strong, he's athletic enough, like the guy obviously wants to if he's doing this, he wants to go in there and grind it out and try and get better. The hardest thing I think is that's a lot of years off. I'm really getting, no doubt, no doubt, hat placement and getting your right hand around the block on an outside zone type of thing.

He's going there to fucking block to like taking shots in the mouth against these freakds like Miles Garrett.

Everyone want a wide fucking nine technique and I'm fucking playing tight end for my first game. Like the fuck wants to go block down you're a quarterback, I don't.

I hate having to block a wide nine with a tight end. That's brutal. I'm like, you know, that's tough. Fucking those d ns are hard, dude. You put a guy that's like relatively the same weight, the tight ends have a hard job.

Like like, get him off the ball a little bit, give me a little chip, let me help my tackle out out on the flat and catch the ball. Let Tebo do his thing. I think that's a no brainer, no brainer. But as far as like stretching the field vertical and doing some things that you have to do in the NFL, it's a tight end position. Gets asked to do a fucking.

Lot, and nerver Meyer's offense is not a whole lot of not running a lot of tight ends out there, not only twelve, a lot of thirteen. I mean, if he's gonna run the same thing he did Ohio State or anywhere else, he's been right all day long, and so now then Tebow has to be a receiving tight end, you know what I'm saying.

We kind of shocked by the outrage over the signing.

I was going to ask you about that.

I've been really shocked about it.

I mean, are you surprised though the outrage?

This is the world is getting really really, really really fucking soft and it's changing a lot. And the fact that like it's just wild, wild times Tebow went, did his TV did his thing. He's always been in the good graces. The guy's never said a bad word about anybody that I know of in general life. Ever. Guy's been stand up, stop playing ball, didn't get another opportunity, went and did his TV stuff, did a base job day, did the baseball thing. People were pissed at him because

It's also networking too.

Yeah, exactly, if anybody else other than Urban Meyer gets that job, t Bo's not there, he's not there. But it works that way. Hey, those guys win one, two national titles. They're still friends. This day. Before Erban got the job, I saw him in Scottsdale playing golf one day, and you know, you can tell just what kind of guy he's been the same guys from when I you know, knew Urban from my time in college and got to be around him a little bit. Like he's just loyal

Anyway, Rabel secretary stretches everywhere, wheel goes. Yeah, no question, Yeah, Rabel just fuck?

Is he the guy? The man?

He fucks got to be the alpha in the room.

Have you challenged that?

Yeah, it doesn't go well because.

It doesn't work out in your way.

He says like things that aren't funny. But then it's like, well, well maybe if you bought that guy on third down. I'm like, well, dude, hey, listen talking about a sack right now.

We had them on like I wasn't on the team. I was. Yeah, he murdered Will and we're both we're both sitting here. I think when I say it was in July of nineteen, so I was just chilling of rage, just bodying me up, and there's like, will you gotta say something? I'm like, what do I fucking say? Because I know I was, like, I didn't play a whole lot for him, so he can body bag me even more if I want to come after tough to watch.

Yeah, yeah, your friends, you hit by a car over and over again.

You're gonna last up over again.

First he hit that poor bastard, and anytime Taylors are around each other, like when we are on the team together, like he's got his jokes in front of everybody.

Yeah, he loves bringing he loves this podcast. He loves bringing it up. He's one of the loves bringing it up in team meetings. And then he loves saying I don't give a shit about your podcast, but then why do you keep bringing it up?

And yeah, we'd be late in the year and he'd be like, let's check on what are social media managers up to today and pull my ship up. You're sitting their asshole tight, like god, I hope the boys laugh.

Were just talking about the kids, the victory they had to beat the Ravens.

It seems like you guys have a good dynamic in the locker room though. It seems like dude fucking having a blast out there. And that's fun. That's fun to see from That's what afar. That's just me turning around the game on fucking Sundays and being that also helps when Derek Henry runs the ball like a fucking freight tri Yes bro.

Twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. Two of the more miserable years of my life three and two and fourteen from recently and then, but like the locker room we got, like the dudes we have, you would love it you going there and knowing like I don't know, I feel like people care, but like not enough to like get on. You can be whoever you want there. Everyone's gonna accept you.

Our locker room's dope, the broough Ship's nice.

A lot of different characters in the UH. In the locker Room House, Tannehill been fitting in compared to like Mariota and the guys.

He owned that thing as soon as he was starting. I remember, I don't remember who his first start was. It was after the Broncos game. I remember who we played after that, but I remember walking in. Him and Arthur Smith are sitting at a table by themselves, and I walked by him and Tannehill's like, I don't want this play. Take this out, I want this change this to a like he's like telling Arthur what he's like,

Dude.

The guy is the guy's top notch. I'm a huge fan of his.

I think had to be happy to see Marriotta ball a little bit last year.

Dude.

Yeah, we both committed to Oregon at the exact same time. We were in the same camp together and then kept in touch over the years, and he really is a legend, top notch. Classy fucking dude.

Classy dude. He's another one of those guys like doesn't say a bad thing about anybody, works super hard, got a got a bad deal with the Titans.

I don't know.

I think he's going to be successful. I just it was just tough here for whatever reason. I don't know if he got in his own head or I think he had a lot of success here that he's had memorable games coming back against Kansas City playoff win, Like, he's going to have things that Titans fans remembers him forever. But I think two maybe next year, two three years from now, he's going to be a starting quarterback. He's gonna be a stunt.

I agree. I mean he's probably in that time, will probably be around the age we are right now. Maybe thirty years old, he's got five six, seven, eight years a good football left. I've always been a big fan of him. The guy. The guy can really fucking move, He's make good money. He's a great fucking dude. I've loved the time I've got to be around him. So, you guys had a bunch of different ocs over.

The first couple of years when he was here, hit a different whatever year.

Yeah, that's it's that's the hardest thing that a lot of people don't know about the NFL. Being a young guy and him coming from Oregon this and this just happens with spread offenses. Coming from college to what we do in the NFL. You don't do a ton of stuff with protections or you know, you get to the league, I need to know exactly why you're squeezing down and this guy comes free, or if you're going to kick out to it and this guy's gonna come and hit

Yeah, I think that's why Tannehill's had so much success here is did He just seems like he's got he knows.

You guys are running here. Tannehill was running the first day when I got to Texas A and M really so well Coach Sherman. Mike Sherman was our head coach, and we were running red Jet two and three jet same play pass to hold the exact same he is gangster. And then when he got drafted, he went to Miami

He gets the thing out too. As an offensive lineman, you get that ball out, that's love. Has been a couple of times like, hey, I appreciate you. You're whiff a little bit. Some dudes and Miles Garrett coming around the corner or something like that. Danny. He takes a shot, but there's no sack. Statute looks good on my stilist jogged down next. Yeah, I think that's what I appreciate you guys, Yeah.

For having a song. You know, we didn't want to come in here, and I was bombard the thing with chug buds and our own podcast type of talking about. I figured, uh, I have a couple of beers a day, come on the bus and hang with the boys and then have a good little chat. This is how it should be. Boys. Have you had what I've already been in the Broadway? I rode a scooter back to where we went and got those vodka o j the other day and got that same meal again. It was fucking badass.

That's awesome. Was your spot in Broadway right now? Where's you?

Number one? F g L. I liked the stage, Hey, the stage They just kind of kicked back and laid back for me. Every time we've gone in there, we've had a blast. Everywhere else it's kind of been a little over the top.

Was that where Mike spot is. It's it's like, yeah, it's top where it's at. I know, I think I know exactly what. Yeah, it's I think me and Derek, you know that, like Kroger Health thing. Me and Derek did a photo shoot for I think he's.

In Taco Bell cant Know where you can get a Baja blast margarita? All about talking about you know, that was real life. The guys sitting there playing his guitar, like, Yo, what's up Taco Bell, Ye, make your way, get a taco and the margarita. I love it. Taco Bell Canteen. I highly recommended Taco Bell Canteen.

The stage rips there, I don't but they played like blink on a two and like hit them like old all turned to punks. Dude, I love their music.

I think I think we've touched soil just about every bar on Broadway. We want. We wanted a good run, we wanted the dark.

I try and keep up, dude. I'm like Mike's out of gain, He's at another Just be a good one.

I'm I'm I'm done. I gonna think I'm retiring off and for a while.

Yes, yeah, I got I gotta finish some music here and then where are you going next?

Austin.

We're gonna spawn, like Travis Nice.

That's what we just wear. Man.

Really, you're just after the batger Bartie, you do that? Did you guys get after it or what?

Oh we got after it? We got We had a good time. My brother he sitting back there, there's about there's about eight of us, but yeah, it was. My voice was completely gone on Saturday.

Smoky tone.

Thank you.

I appreciate that again.

Boy, my boy, Kenny Farkus, like this really like the eye of the storm, dude, Like it just starts going off because we we went out in downtown Austin for the first half of the day and then we're like, all right, let's go recharge for a few hours. Then we'll come back out of night with rainy street sixth Street, and uh, this storm just starts beating our ass. Dude, I'm talking. I mean you see the trees blowing sideways,

Deal out there.

It's a good old Texas storm.

He's just and in the middle of that too.

It was hailing. That's why he's like covering his face right now because it's fucking hailing.

He's it's a psychopath with Bro.

He's going through.

Yeah. Sure, yeah, but I love that, appreciate that there be fun. But yeah, Man, Nashville definitely is. It's up there. I like the place a lot.

There's something there's something to be said about the vibe that like the you know, I've been lived in New York and other places. You know, a lot of this is obviously a lot smaller than in New York City, but that feeling right where I'm at right now is like, you know, just walk out, like I come down.

The elevators just you're in the trenches. People are going nuts.

You know, you're trenches.

It's it's like a celebratory place. You know, people are coming here for bachelor parties, bachelor rep party's, birthday parties.

There's just feeling.

There's always a concert, there's always a game, there's always something going on.

Feeling in the air that's like more positive leaning. I just like that, you know, I'm like a and going into like a random city or a place that haven't been a ton of just getting a media just boost of energy and a vibe where you're like, just want to go out and fucking have a blast.

You guys are boosting Nashville. Did I like that?

No doubt?

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