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Business Wars

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Netflix vs. HBO. Nike vs. Adidas. Business is war. Sometimes the prize is your wallet or your attention. Sometimes, it’s just the fun of beating the other guy. The outcome of these battles shapes what we buy and how we live. 

Business Wars gives you the unauthorized, real story of what drives these companies and their leaders, inventors, investors and executives to new heights -- or to ruin. Hosted by David Brown, former anchor of Marketplace. From Wondery, the network behind Dirty John and American History Tellers.

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Episodes

Pizza Hut vs Domino's | Slices of Science | 5

It’s the 1990s and Domino’s rapid rise on the back of its 30-minute delivery guarantee is about to smash straight into a legal roadblock.  And while Domino’s extracts itself from the wreckage, Pizza Hut’s cooking up a new recipe for success. Its latest creation will horrify purists and help the chain fend off pizza’s newest player: Papa John’s. Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here Support us by supporting our sponsors! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice...

Sep 23, 202023 minSeason 41Ep. 5

Sponsored | Seoul Taco Founder David Choi on the ‘Right Way’ to Expand a Business | 2

Last week, we gave you the first half of our interview with Seoul Taco Founder David Choi. If you didn't catch that part of our conversation, we encourage you to go back and check it out. Since starting his Seoul Taco business eight years ago, Choi has expanded to seven total locations in Illinois and Missouri. Today, we continue our conversation with Choi and learn more about his business philosophy, his work in the communities he serves, and what’s next for Seoul Taco.   This episode...

Sep 22, 202016 minSeason 42Ep. 2

Pizza Hut vs Domino's | Deliverance | 4

It’s the late 1980s and Domino’s founder Tom Monaghan’s living the high life. After years of struggle, he’s a billionaire and he’s buying up plenty of status symbols to prove it.  But as Pizza Hut tries to rally a counter-attack, a day of reckoning is fast approaching for the pizza delivery pioneer. Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here Support us by supporting our sponsors! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-i...

Sep 21, 202022 minSeason 41Ep. 4

Pizza Hut vs Domino's | Delivering the Goods | 3

It’s the ‘80s and Domino’s is gunning for Pizza Hut. Domino’s has kickstarted the speediest expansion program in fast-food history and it’s not planning on stopping until it’s planted its flag in every corner of the USA. But while Domino’s goes on the attack, Pizza Hut finds itself caught between a rock and a hard place. Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here Support us by supporting our sponsors! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy...

Sep 16, 202023 minSeason 41Ep. 3

Sponsored | From Food Truck to Franchise: How David Choi Started Seoul Taco | 1

Before you’re ready for a full-fledged “Business War,” you need to start somewhere. David Choi put it all on the line and drained his bank account to buy his first food truck.  Eight years later, Choi’s bold vision for Korean and Mexican fusion has made an impact on the culinary scene.  In this episode, we hear from Choi about his humble beginnings, his hustle, and the importance of small businesses.  This episode is sponsored by the CitiBusiness® / AAdvantage® Platinum Select® ca...

Sep 15, 202016 minSeason 42Ep. 1

Pizza Hut vs Domino's | Meltdown | 2

It’s the dawn of the 1970s and Pizza Hut is about to join America's business elite by floating on the stock exchange. But the Kansas pizza giant’s moment of triumph turns into defeat. But while Pizza Hut’s been charming investors on Wall Street, Domino’s is living on skid row. And founder Tom Monaghan’s running out of time to save the day. Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here Support us by supporting our sponsors! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https:...

Sep 14, 202023 minSeason 41Ep. 2

Pizza Hut vs Domino's | Rolling out | 1

It’s 1958 and on the East and West Coasts, all the cool cats are chowing down on pizza. Yet in the heartland, far away from the buzz of New York and LA, pizza is still rarely seen, let alone eaten. But that’s all about to change, thanks to a new pizzeria opened by two brothers in a hut in Kansas. And they’re not the only siblings with pie in the sky dreams. In Michigan, the Monaghan brothers are hoping to bring pizza to the nation’s front doors. Listen to new episodes 1 week early and to all epi...

Sep 09, 202024 minSeason 41Ep. 1

FedEx vs UPS | FedEx, UPS and Amazon’s Close Ties to the Postal Service | 7

In our last episode, Amazon had once again taken a financial hit to get ahead in the shipping game, cutting out its need for FedEx and UPS, and turning them into the competition. But there’s one more link in the shipping chain that FedEx, UPS and even Amazon hasn’t cut loose: The United States Postal Service. Private shipping companies also sometimes hire the Post Office to take care of last-mile deliveries. But that might be changing as FedEx becomes more self-sufficient, and may plan to cut so...

Sep 07, 202023 minSeason 40Ep. 7

FedEx vs UPS | Deal with the Devil | 6

Both FedEx and UPS are doing a lot of business with e-commerce companies, especially Amazon. But after one disastrous Christmas season when both companies have difficulty delivering in time for Christmas, Amazon decides it’s time to bring shipping in-house. Going forward, UPS and FedEx’s biggest rival may not be each other, but the company that was once their best customer. Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here   Support us by supporting our sponsors! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/...

Sep 02, 202022 minSeason 40Ep. 6

FedEx vs UPS | On the Line | 5

With UPS expanding aggressively into Europe and other continents, FedEx decides to bet big on China. But it’s a risky strategy that initially looks like it’s going to fall short.   Meanwhile, UPS tries to maintain its competitive advantage by pushing for more productivity from its workers. But the drivers have had enough and UPS soon has a major labor relations problem on its hands. UPS’s troubles give FedEx an opening to peel away some of its business. And at the dawn of the...

Aug 31, 202023 minSeason 40Ep. 5

FedEx vs UPS | When in Rome... | 4

UPS decides it’s time to expand its market outside North America and makes a big push into Western Europe. But it’s harder than expected to integrate its corporate culture with European norms.   FedEx CEO Fred Smith eschews European expansion and goes all-in on a risky new service called ZapMail, much to his executive team’s dismay.   Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here Support us by supporting our sponsors! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Priv...

Aug 26, 202021 minSeason 40Ep. 4

FedEx vs UPS | We’re Gonna Need a Bigger Plane | 3

Finally financially stable, FedEx takes on the US government to overturn regulations that limit the size of the planes they can fly. Convinced the regulations are limiting its growth, FedEx launches a multi-pronged strategy to persuade Congress to change the rules. And UPS realizes it needs to compete directly with FedEx and finally buys its own planes to offer next-day air service.    Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here Support us by supporting our sponsors! See Privacy Policy a...

Aug 24, 202021 minSeason 40Ep. 3

FedEx vs UPS | Vegas or Bust | 2

After a disastrous start, FedEx needs to change its sales pitch or it will run out of money before it even has a chance to take off.  Smith resorts to surprising means to raise the money to keep his fledgling company going. UPS is convinced FedEx will be out of business in a matter of months.  But it has its own problems to attend to, as drivers are feeling dissatisfied and start to organize for better working conditions.   Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here See Privacy Policy a...

Aug 19, 202022 minSeason 40Ep. 2

FedEx vs UPS | Kick the Tire, Light the Fires | 1

It’s the early 1970s, and 27-year-old Fred Smith has an idea for a new kind of package delivery service, one that uses its own planes to deliver packages in under 24 hours. Skeptics tell him the start-up costs are too high and the demand too low, but Smith thinks he’s found a way to make it work. He invests millions of his own money to get the new company started.   But when one thing after another goes wrong, it looks like Smith might have made a big mistake. And that’s before he...

Aug 17, 202022 minSeason 40Ep. 1

Dating App Wars | Dating Apps Pivot as COVID-19 Continues | 7

Almost one in three relationships start as online encounters. But the popularity of dating apps isn’t surprising with so many to choose from, and the pandemic may even be boosting dating app use. For more on how COVID-19 has changed online dating, and how apps are adapting, David speaks today with Ashley Carman, a senior reporter covering dating apps for The Verge. Carman is also Co-host of The Verge’s Why’d You Push That Button podcast. She’s here to talk about which apps are thriving, and what...

Aug 12, 202020 minSeason 39Ep. 7

Dating App Wars | An App-rehensive Future | 6

Whitney Wolfe Herd establishes Bumble with a strident anti-misogyny agenda, but that foundation is rocked when shocking accusations of sexual harassment surface against Wolfe Herd’s co-founder.  Meanwhile, the revolutionary gay app Grindr goes through a scandalous upheaval when a Chinese company buys the company and installs a straight president.   And the cyber dating world undergoes a major rethinking as the coronavirus ushers in unprecedented, devastating changes for singles an...

Aug 10, 202022 minSeason 39Ep. 6

Dating App Wars | Are You Ready to Bumble? | 5

Niche apps are kicking into high gear for users with specific criteria, and there’s something for everyone: muzmatch for Muslims, Mouse Mingle for Disney fans, Twindog for canine lovers, Sizzl for bacon aficionados, Bristl for beard enthusiasts and Dead Meet for morticians and other death professionals.  In the mainstream, Match and Tinder have a new, serious competitor: Whitney Wolfe Herd’s Bumble. The feminist app debuts to a huge response — and a stinging lawsuit from Wolfe Herd’s former...

Aug 05, 202021 minSeason 39Ep. 5

Dating App Wars | Crimes of Passion | 4

What seemed like a run of the mill office romance gone very, very wrong will result in a devastating upheaval in the power structure at Tinder. And repercussions will be felt throughout the industry as Whitney Wolfe exacts some delicious corporate revenge. And as the cyber dating world is rocked by horrific violence against women, apps that put female users in the driver’s seat start to get serious traction.    Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here Support us by supporting our sponsors! See ...

Aug 03, 202021 minSeason 39Ep. 4

Dating App Wars | The Revolution Will Be Swiped | 3

A new app aimed at gay users is about to break open an entirely new feature that will redefine the cyber dating business. And a young man emerging from a shower gets his inspiration for a new hookup site as he wipes the steam from his mirror.  Soon Tinder is on fire, but the conglomerate Match Group is determined to get a stranglehold on the market. And as the industry leaps from computer screens to mobile devices, things are heading into uncharted territory. Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here...

Jul 29, 202024 minSeason 39Ep. 3

Dating App Wars | eHarmonic Convergence | 2

Dr. Neil Clark Warren is a 63-year-old theologian and clinical psychologist with a vision for a site he’s certain can lead to romantic success. eHarmony will be the first to take on the powerful Match.com. And Warren believes he is on—quite literally—a sacred mission to offer something that Match.com can’t match. eHarmony’s Christian agenda seems to be working, until the God stuff leads to serious disharmony. Dr. Warren doesn’t know it, but he’s headed for a holy war. Listen ad-free on Wondery+ ...

Jul 27, 202023 minSeason 39Ep. 2

Dating App Wars | Lighting Up Match.com | 1

It’s 1995, and computer dating is in its infancy. Most people think it’s a dark, sleazy world for desperate losers and horny perverts. But that’s all about to change. Pioneer site Match.com paves the way for cyber dating to move toward mainstream culture, but—in an era when few people even use a computer—it’s going to be a serious struggle. And as the dating market blossoms, burgeoning companies will stop at nothing to get the coveted edge, fighting for hip cache, consumer convenience and tech a...

Jul 22, 202024 minSeason 39Ep. 1

Diamond Wars | The Future of the Diamond Industry | 8

Today we conclude our Diamond Wars series.  These precious stones are known to be undeniably beautiful, rare and a symbol of luxury. But diamonds have also been associated with war, human rights abuses and death. In response, consumers these days are demanding more transparency about where stones are sourced. Some are seeking out less expensive gemstone alternatives or lab-grown diamonds. And even powerhouse companies like De Beers have taken strides to adapt.   To find out m...

Jul 20, 202021 minSeason 38Ep. 8

Diamond Wars | The Alchemists | 7

It’s the 2000s and the diamond cartel is dead. Now, De Beers must adjust to its new status as the market leader rather than the monopoly. But the threats to its business aren’t going away.   Diamonds are losing their luster with the young, and Zimbabwe’s undermining the industry’s response to conflict diamonds. And most threatening of all, a wave of new start ups are out to disrupt De Beers by growing man-made diamonds.   Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here See Privacy Policy at https...

Jul 15, 202026 minSeason 38Ep. 7

Diamond Wars | Monopolies Aren’t Forever | 6

It’s the late 1990s and rebel armies in Angola, Sierra Leone and Congo are bankrolling campaigns of mass murder and terror with diamonds. Now, after years of turning a blind eye, the diamond-buying public is starting to notice the bloodshed.  But as the issue of so-called “blood diamonds” rises up the political agenda, De Beers is plotting what might be the boldest move yet in its long history: giving up its quest to control all the world’s diamonds. Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here Support ...

Jul 13, 202023 minSeason 38Ep. 6

Diamond Wars | Blood and Champagne | 5

It’s 1966 and De Beers is about to abandon its eleven-year search for diamonds in Botswana. But the geologist behind the search is far from ready to pack up his tools. And De Beers isn’t the only one searching for gemstones. Soon, a major diamond find in Australia will leave the diamond monopoly facing a big dilemma: should it seek to control or to destroy this Antipodean threat? Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here Support us by supporting our sponsors! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privac...

Jul 08, 202026 minSeason 38Ep. 5

Diamond Wars | The Shadow World | 4

It’s the early 1950s and West Africa’s growing number of diamond smugglers is causing headaches for De Beers.  Faced with millions of pounds in losses, the diamond monopoly decides it’s time to get tough with the smugglers. But while De Beers battles the illicit diamond traders, in the far east of the Soviet Union a new threat is brewing.  Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here Support us by supporting our sponsors! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice...

Jul 06, 202025 minSeason 38Ep. 4

Diamond Wars | Diamond Dogfight | 3

It’s 1940, and the world is at war. The Allies and Axis powers are scrambling to lock down supplies of the industrial diamonds needed to mass produce their tanks, planes and submarines. But when the White House demands De Beers hands over a year’s supply of industrial diamonds, it soon learns the cartel is as hard to break as the diamonds it sells.  Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here Support us by supporting our sponsors! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy N...

Jul 01, 202024 minSeason 38Ep. 3

Diamond Wars | The Puppet Master | 2

It’s 1914 and De Beers’s monopoly is under threat. Diamonds have been discovered on the desolate coast of the German colony of South West Africa. So it hired an ambitious diamond expert named Ernest Oppenheimer and gave him his orders: head to the beach and assess the threat. But then World War One disrupts De Beers chance to do a deal with the German diamond miners. Now, Oppenheimer sees his chance to scramble to the very top of the diamond industry. Listen ad-free on Wondery+ here   Suppo...

Jun 29, 202024 minSeason 38Ep. 2

Diamond Wars | The Diamond Rush | 1

It’s 1869 and diamonds have been found in Cape Colony.  Now, diamond hunters from across the world are heading to this remote British outpost in southern Africa, seeking a glittering fortune. And among them are two wide-eyed hopefuls: streetwise Barney Barnato, who hails from the London slums, and Cecil Rhodes, a vicar’s son with a head full of imperialist daydreams. When the diamond rush turns to bust, Barnato and Rhodes embark on a quest to conquer the mines. But only one man can win. &nb...

Jun 24, 202030 minSeason 38Ep. 1

Uber vs Lyft | Examining Toxic Company Culture in the Rideshare Industry | 7

Uber and Lyft have made their mark as very different brands. Lyft was born out of a need for more environmentally friendly rideshare options. And is also seen as the “friendlier” of the two companies. While Uber’s former CEO, Travis Kalanick built a reputation for ruthlessness, sexual harassment and “bro culture.” Still, both companies have seen protests from their drivers, who’ve demanded benefits and better pay for countless hours spent on the road. So how much has Uber and Lyft’s company cult...

Jun 22, 202022 minSeason 36Ep. 7
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