Welcome to Buns and Banter, a podcast buy work Busties for work Busties. Hey, I'm Lauren and I'm Ali. We're both morning show hosts for iHeart Media. We're both millennials, and we're both trying to figure out how to build the LICs. We dream about dating, marriage, career, career, and being a mom, how to get through a week without crying. Welcome to Buns and Banter. We're glad you're here. Yeah, my torso is so long. It's so long, like any kind of romper or anything.
It's just like it's a shot in the dark because it's Yeah, I just don't so. I hate this. But I have gotten to the point where like I have to try everything on in the store and tall ladies, or I'm just like buying everything online and returning, which I suck at. I have clothes that I literally have never worn that are past the point of returning at this point. Yeah right, yeah, Oh, I hate that. I know you're just like staring at wasted money and my mom is like,
my mom gives me grief about it. But it is the reality of the situation. It's just who I am. I'm trying to be better about that. Oh my god, real, not it in it good? I miss this. I know, I go. It's sad when you posted on your Instagram story the other day about the person who greg is Buns and Banter over and I was like, oh my god, has it been that long. It's just so we had Birthday Bash, multiple summer promotions. We were working
on different time off. You had that wedding finally in New York. Yeah, just it was absolutely insane. I don't even feel like I've seen that much of you just in the office randomly because we've been like shut in our studios doing a billion things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's now that Birthday Bash is over and that wedding the weekend before Birthday Bash, Like those were my two big things for like the entering into summer, and now
I have a couple big things like at the end of the summer. But I feel like I'm just like coasting right now, like I'm in a little bit of vacation mode. I've been drinking a lot, Like I want to go out and get a cocktail like on a Wednesday, And then I already texted you earlier. Yeah, It's like, so what like maybe after the podcast today, what are we thinking? Oh, but it like destroys your sleep schedule. Yeah, it really does. So I am suffering. I'm
suffering, God, So I'm having you carry it so well? Oh thank you. If I had like a palm leaf that I could fan you with. Yeah, And honestly, I would say, it's the melatonin that's getting me through. But I'm going to bed at like eleven o'clock because I'm just like that it is late for you. I want to see people, and I have a friend in town, or like I've been out on a couple of dates, or I know nothing to report as of yet, but we'll
see. Yeah, we'll see. So, speaking of suffering, can we just really quick of suffering, recap the insane week with this wildfire smoke? Because I don't There are people in the world with serious problems. I get it, environmental poverty, food insecurity, but honest to God, this week I've been like, I just don't know. Fucking have you scaled one to ten? How did you feel you were affected? Like here in West Michigan,
because our air quality has never been this bad. If people weren't aware, like the Canadian wildfires in Quebec finally had their like smoke come down here and it is so bad this week. Yes, I feel like I have been affected, but also I haven't really Like I said, I haven't been sleeping my normal sleep schedule. Could you it's been so smoky. I've been having a couple of drinks during the week, which I which I don't normally do. We can't go outside. Keep them coming. I will find rationalizations
for anything and everything, yes, but usually those are reasons. Sleep deprivation and alcohol are usually reasons I'm affected in my chest and like in my field, especially when you wake up in the morning, and like we are on the air, so we have to sound good like right when we get up. So I've just been noticing, like, is it the wildfires or is it my boozin and party in neither of which we're going to judge on this. It's the wildfires, right, because I had the funniest thing happened,
right, I was very proud of the sun. I'm raising because my five year old we have a call every morning when I get off the air, and he was like, he always asks, how's your damn mom in the summer because he's not in school. Right, And I had like the most
ridiculous email situation this week. My email completely crashed. I went a whole day without working email, which is you know, it is lucky, right, but I'm like hosting at a different station this week, so it's horrendous, like China, schedule interviews, trying to do all these things right, which the running joke is whenever Lauren is so low hosting on wood, there's always something catastrophic in the world happening, like everything give me going fine,
and then all of a sudden, like wildfires, You're oh my god, the wildfires, your email crashes, Russia invades Ukraine, like just catastrophic, huge world events, and it's like not what you want as the fill in, Like you just want to coast as the fill in kind of thank you, you know, just protecting the job secure of the other host. Not thank you are host wonderful, because you are. And if there were any person that I would choose for these events for a fill in thank you,
it would be you. But I do feel like you have not had a fair shake. It ain't bad luck. Sometimes like I'm talking to my son and I go, oh, it's it's okay. I had a pretty tough day to day, Like mom's email didn't work, so I couldn't really talk to anyone. We're not missing up, behagles, Oh these wildfires are hurting everything. It's like, as I, oh, honey, it was totally my fault for not changing my password, but the fact that you blamed it
on the wildfires just goes to show I am doing my job right. Yes, never our fault. Solidarity always an outside issue. Yes, thank you. Oh that's adorable. Yeah, so I've been using I've been very fatigued and using the wildfire smoke is it? Is it just a really good chance to reset that doing Well, how are your kids doing, because like you can't go outside in this no, and Will's okay. But as it turns out, the past probably three weeks to a month, we've had like anti
issues really with my two year old daughter with sophia. So this was like really, yeah, it's it's a whole thing that we're still working to like figure out. They don't think it's asthma or anything, but this stuff has just wrecked her. But she also loves being outside. Yeah, so it's the worst trying to keep kids cooped when they don't understand. They're like, well I can still see some sunshine and it's not raining. So and then
they'll go outside, and so I was like, who's cooking something? I'm like the forest, I think, just so you know, so that's been that's been tough. Yeah, well that's also is the smell, Like it's not a bad toxic smell. But I'm reading these articles online. I just sent one to my brother in law the other day as we were talking about this on the family group chat, and my brother in law post a good question. He asked, what is the difference between the wildfires and be exposed
to like a bond fire for a few hours at night? And I thought that was I had not thought of that because it is the same in the articles that I read, it's the same type of smoke, like it's literally just wood that is burning, right, Yes, But then I also read that the wildfire smoke is more toxic than like car fumes, like car pollutants. Oh god, So I'm like, huh. Someone said in like some of the southern areas like Byron Center and over there, this is just what
I heard. They could like actually see like ash raining from this guy really ash, which I'm certain shouldn't be going in your lungs. I'm not a doctor, but I have terrible lungs, so I would know. Yeah, a little bit insane. West Michigan Grand Rapids specifically was the worst place in the US for air quality. Yesterday was it? What was it? Wednesday? Tuesday? Tuesday? It was, Yeah, But I think it's been like that, I mean all week, and like now i'm thinking about it.
I'm like, like, we're inside and I'm still feeling like, you know, yeah, I was doing saying it was so bad. I'd not really looked at numbers before. When you look at the index, yeah, and they're like, well, anything over two hundred is pretty hazardous to even people outside of sensitive groups. And that's like okay. At one point we were at like two seventy, and then it was like three hundred hazardous for
everyone. Don't step outdoors. I have not, oh my god, I have not taken the dog for a walk at all this week because I mean, it's so crazy. But I did see people outside when I was driving home from work. People little exercising. Yeah, people are running, people are sitting outside having lunch. I'm like, you people are nuts. Yeah, it really shaped for me exactly what I would do in the event of an actual apocalypse, which was lay on the couch. Yeah, I would
just it is what it is. Yeah, Jesus take the wheel. No, the second season of The Bear came out. That's fine, take me. I've all set. But that sells me at it. It's so good. Yeah, I've heard that. I have not watched the second season yet. I haven't started it, but the first season was phenomenal. Oh awesome. Yeah, I have a great binge for you. It's on Amazon Prime and it's called The Lake. It just dropped its second season. It's a
comedy. It's really really good, and they're like twenty eight to thirty two minute episodes and it's really really good. I've got so much stuff on my list right now. I got to finish up ted Lasso. I still have like three or four episodes left in the current season. I've got to finish up The Bear, The Lake. I'm adding to my list now. I just this is what I gotta watch shows before work when you're getting ready like
I do. Honestly, I don't leave myself enough time. I know it's so weird of me to do, but It's the only way I get out of bed. Yeah, I wish I had a morning routine like that. And my routine is just like wake up in Panic. That's it really quick, really quick side tangent. If anybody is interested in collaborating on T shirts with us, I feel like we have so many great one miners wake up, want to wake up and panic T shirt with buttons and pants are on
the back. Oh yeah, getting tough with us wake up in Panic morning routine to do wake up Panic, it'd be so good. Me and a nutshell, Me and a nut jel. So this is something I'd been holding onto for weeks because we hadn't gotten a pod yet. And I know I told you about it, and when I brought it up to you, you knew exactly what I was talking about. I am dying to talk about this Brene Brown Interview. Yes, because I also feel like the timing is perfect
with how stressful summer can be. Yeah, for parents especially. I guess That's where I'm coming from on this. So Brene Brown was recently on the Mel Robbins podcast and they were talking about marriage and it was the most mind blowing thing she said. Everybody says marriage is fifty fifty and it's the biggest
bullshit out there. Marriage is not fifty fifty. Marriage is whatever percentage you can bring to the table and then working with your partner to make up for that, right, And she said, you know, she used examples like I might have a really hard day. I'll come home and tell my husband, hey, I've got twenty two percent to give today, and he can look at me and say, got your back. I'll grab the other seventy eight percent. She talked about how her mom had been sick recently and she's
like, those days were really hard. So I'll come home and have even less, like I barely have ten. He's usually like, great, I'll make up the ninety. And then she said some days we both are coming at it and it's like I got fifteen percent and my husband will go, well, I've got thirty percent, And then we sit down and have a conversation about the grace we're going to give each other the rest of that day because we're both just not going to be at our bus right. And I
was sitting there like light bulb in my head going off. I've never heard it put that way, and it made me feel so much better about my own marriage. Yeah, especially because we were talking about at the beginning of the episode, June was a blur insane. I mean between like Will finishing up school, figuring out summer camps, working a lot of the same events with you, a lot of our clients, you know, geared up with really great summer stuff. But we were out doing videos, interviews all that.
I feel like I was getting home and it was like, I've got five percent to give, I've got, you know, eight percent to give, right, and feeling really guilty about that, which then just puts you in an even worse mood. Right, And I just thought that was such an incredible way to put it, and it would be a tough conversation to have, but I think it's a really good one to have a dating too. Yeah, I think definitely, what do you do when you both come
to the table with ten percent? Right? What do you do when you just don't have that other ninety and neither does your partner those conversation? What do those look like? And then what are you doing like things you just don't what goes? Something's got to give? Was something? Oh? Yeah, you remember the podcast you made me cry on Yeah, it was the Shanda one where she's like, you cannot have at all. That's not a
thing. It's a really nasty lie that makes people feel inadequate. Yeah, and that I think is has served as a great reminder when serving social media or like looking at these women with these high powered jobs and you know, I'm looking at them like they're succeeding in their career and also succeeding at home and also succeeding in their health and fitness. It seems like but you just, I think, have to believe, or at least I have to believe.
Not to be pessimistic or take anything away from them, but you just have to believe that there are some areas that they are not driving in. And it's impossible. How do you choose which areas go first? Like for me, the first thing that always goes is working out. Oh yeah, like that's the first. I don't say that or that would be mine too, but that's always it for me. Like when I get busy with work
or I get busy with work. Yeah, yeah, yes, you know, I can't neglect the dog, although I do feel like her, like well, longer walks is something that also goes to her, but like those are the two main things, like super long walks and like just spending a little bit of time outside with her and working out. Those are the first two things where I'm like, Okay, those have to go this week or
this month or this corner, which is really what it feels like. But sometimes you're picking these back up after three or four months and you're like, where did these go? Yeah, oh yeah, the worst naps go for me? I know. Then then it's like, oh, you know how
I came home and said I was giving ten percent. I am, but I'm also now a bitch when you'm tired because you're tired, and I've given up my nap because I feel like I need to make up for a time I didn't have what the kids yesterday, or I needed to like check in on Chris and how his day was going, or I need to be doing all of the posts I should have gotten done this morning at work but didn't, And then like at the end of the day, I'm just like a
fire breathing piece of shit, you know. I mean, not trying to negative self talk, but something I've had to recognize her I'm like, oh, maybe that's not what goes Yeah, yeah, no, I cannot give up sleep or naps. I shouldn't, but it's a tough task. I mean, you nailed it with that question. Good to identify the problem, then what do you give up to fix that? I haven't figured it out.
I wonder what life is like as Brine Brown, Like if I could spend a day as her and just have access to everything on top because she's just a wealth. She's a wealth and she's got I feel like the anthropological experience and research. Well, she's studied people for so long, Like how long has she been studying shame and grief? Like twenty years? It feels
like multiple books. Yeah, and she just always has really insightful comments like information to share, and like the same with moult Robbins too, she's got some good advice. They're so articulate. I'm like, I would never have been able to put those words and phrases together to explain the jumble that's in
my head, but that's exactly what it feels like. Yeah, and they're very much I feel like the narrative of like overnight success, but they've actually been grinding and trying to make things happen forever which makes me feel better. It does, doesn't it? Yes, it does, Like there's still time far more validating. Yeah, because the memes don't always work where it's like Picasso didn't pay until it was fifty. I'm like, but that doesn't help
me. Yeah, I'm not doing anything revolutionary. I'm just trying to be a good, contributing citizen that can pay my bills. Yeah. Is that too much as No? No, But how soon is too soon to have that conversation about like where what you're coming to the table with, Like I'm coming with ten percent or I'm coming with twenty percent, or like I've got seventy percent today, I've got one hundred percent today, Like what do you
have? How soon is too soon to have that conversation with someone you're dating. No, I don't know, because you and Kurds have been married for it'll be eight years in August. And is this something that you guys are doing currently or something you plan on doing? Not really, I mean we're doing it in the fact that I don't voice it correctly. I just come home and I'm like, I'm exhausted. I don't have it today, So we have room to work on it. Okay, well, at least you're
communicating. Yes, we call it that that there's unications there. Just work on the style. I would say in dating, I think it could be as early as like six months, six months that nut is that too late if they make it. These guys out here are not even making it six days. I mean, I think it should be soon or I'm just I guess I'm looking at it from a male perspective, and it's like, you
know, how long it takes them to catch up? Yeah, I mean you know, you know, yeah, you know, I definitely have been in worse spots psychologically when dating and now once you know, I'm not in a good place, but I'm like going on these dates and like I know that these are my issues. Like I've had a little bit of time as a single person now to like work on some of the things that I didn't like about myself in relationships, which has been it's been great to like do
that work alone. But you know, I saw a meme the other day that said, at some point, you're going to realize that the reason why you feel like you've done all this work and you feel like you've healed is because you've been single for so long and you're just not triggering the issues. And now I'm like kind of back out there and I'm like dating a little bit, and I'm like, that's true. No, that's absolutely there's more work to be done. But like I'm in a better spot than I have
been. But now I'm looking at other people like where are you in your journey? That's a fair question to ask, though some people have put in more time in the journey than others. You know, yeah, I don't want to be the Saint Shoots and ladders. I've climbed the ladder. I don't want to slide to where you are catch up. Yeah, yeah, I don't think that's wrong. Yeah, it's an interesting like talk. And she's like, you know, I got it in there. I know.
Yeah, it's not helpful. Oh yeah ah yeah. So still rough out there, Still rough out there. But you know what, I was gonna make a bad joke, but I'm not. But I'm not that new Alley, that new work. We'll find another way to transition into talking about the Titan submersive. Fuscle boy has something that taken my attention like that in a while. I was there some time summers I'm like, oh, where was she going? But any worse than the memes I laughed at on TikTok.
I don't want to get canceled today. Yeah, because there were some people out or on social media that were literally they're still searching for this thing. And these people are making jokes. Yes, and I'm not, by any means a billionaire sympathizer, but these are actual people that lost their lives,
right. And I was talking to one of our coworkers. I won't say his name, but he was talking about like conspiracy theories around it, sure, and how he like, there are some conspiracy theories out there, people who think that this may have been a big life insurance stunt. I've heard that. Now. To me, that seems so not plausible. How do you have life insurance if you are about to get on a submersive vessel that has not been safety tested, has to be bolted in from the outside,
has death listed in the waiver three times on the first page. How do you even have life insurance if you are going on that journey? Oh, billionairely I heard that from a lot of people, and I was like, man, okay, entertain it for a hot second. That sounds like so much work, Like you can't come back and be your old self because you're supposed to be dead, so you kind of like, I wouldn't. I don't think that's what it was. I think it was just an unfortunate lack
of testing and mother nature breaks me out. Honestly, this this Titan Summers, I would never ever do that. No, not for in a million years. I have a healthy fear of open water. And in my opinion, we're looking for the aliens in the wrong place. Everybody's looking up there. We got to be looking underwater because space travel, you know, we're making moves on that getting farther and farther and farther. It just takes us a really long time underwater, Like you can't go there, you can't you,
Oh my god. We need to have a night. I'm going to get a sitter and Umi and Chris are going to go out. I'm gonna get him a couple of beers and the two of you are going to converse. Because he talks about this all the time, he will not jump into water. He cannot see the bottom of He's like, I'm sorry, we have only explored seven percent of the world's oceans. There is no way we have any idea what's happening there. Yeah, the hill, he will die
out. He wouldn't go on a cruise. No, No, he saw like he saw the Titan story first started to come out, and he was like, can't then, I can't say that I'm shocked. Can't say can't say that I am shocked, can't say that I didn't something come and went wrong in deep water. It's like, you know what the most terrifying scene in Finding Nemo is whether at the bottom and the light in the light because it's so pitch dark. Yeah, a Disney Pixar movie. Scared me out
of ever wanting to go. Yeah, deep ocean. No, there was this really terrifying graphic I saw on one of the websites that was talking about this, and it had like different depths of the ocean and it illustrated like this is where a blue whale is. And then it's like and this is a billion miles more down where even whales won't go. No, that's gonna be And what's with all the whales attacking the boats and like the hiaks and
like the yachts. Right now, the orcas and they're the experts are saying, usually orcas don't I don't know if it's the orcas or if it's some other type of whale. Yeah, but they're saying they don't usually gather in numbers of this in groups, and they're in these huge like migration pots. There were like two hundred spotted off a coast. They are organizing. I know, because we don't know what's happening either. They're probably having pta meetings
about this, have been for decades, announced the time. It's the time they know about the climate change. Well, you just have the wonders. You have to wonder if they're pissed at us and they're like, get the out of here, or if they're trying to warn us. Oh god. You also need to watch a Netflix show called Ancient Apocalypse. No, No, it's good. It's so scientific. You're like, oh my god, we have we have a limited amount of time left. We are so overdue
for an apocalypse. I know. When I was in high school in physics, my physics teacher made us watch a documentary about the reversing of the Earth's polarity and how overdue we are for the Earth's magnetic polls to flip. I didn't even know, and like, what will happen if that happens? And honestly, it terrified me. It terrified me. I don't even I think I've blocked a lot of it out, to be honest. Yeah, I'm
just waiting for the next ice age. That's what it'll take us. I mean, I think we're like we are pedal to the metal, headed for some sort of your mental apocalypse. And don't you think the Orchis would be some of the first to know or wills of any kind living down there where a lot of it would probably start. That's what I mean, Like, are they trying to warn us? Oh my god? But also about that the yacht people, though, like pick a better group to warn good.
They don't careiaire, they don't care. They're on vacation. They're on their yacht and you know when you're a vacation mode and you're like, nothing can get me down. No, that's really no warn The locals warn't different people warm The locals get into a fishing net real quick and be like, guys, shit, it's not okay down there right like and there it's coming up.
It's it's good. It's coming up. It's up. God. No, but I mean I one hundred percent back exactly what you're saying, glued to the screens during the Titans submersive and like, what what a god? I mean it was a I felt like it was an okay ending in that there was no suffering, like at least they didn't suffer. Oh. Did you read some of the other stories of like past nautical disasters like the Russian submarine. No, I think it was a Russian submarine. I think it
was called the Curse. They somehow like lost capabilities whatever, and the sub sunk. I don't know in what ocean or how deep it was or whatever, but yeah, they just they didn't implode. So they sat on this sub and just slowly died. No, I think I'm oh, my gosh, I'm gonna I'm gonna google that, but I'm certain that's what it was called. And it was like, oh my gosh when you talk about how lucky they were to go fast. Oh God, it happened in two thousand
No way. Yeah, Oh, it exploded and then the rescue booie was disabled, so it took sixteen hours to locate it resting on the ocean. Floor. It dured eighteen, but it exploded, but it didn't like, yeah, I don't know. I didn't like kill all of them right away. I don't think, oh, wikipedia this, but it's terrifying. Oh my god, Like it's still like in mint condition, well not mint condition, but like people were on it. It was just a really opu way
to go. So you brought a really positive point in the fact that at least there wasn't suffering. I was trying to do the timing in my head from the scientists talking about like three milliseconds. It takes your brain like thirty milliseconds to realize something's happening and react, so like they had no idea. Yeah, a second it started. I don't think a water depth is for me. I don't want that. No, I know I need air, the air. Did you feel like you were breathing a lot last week too,
like so thankful for oxygen. I saw your take Oh my god, you were like, take it in. It's good and it's free. But the oxygen reserves, which is what you know everyone's sitting down. That was the fact that there was a time clock and there was counting down ninety six hours forty eight hours, just over twenty four hours. Okay, they are out of reserve oxygen and that wasn't even right. I asked this question on one of my shows. Would you rather in that situation? And this is
this question not being careless or callous. Would you rather be someone on that sub like us, that doesn't really have any mathematical or scientific knowledge and just clings to blissful hope. Or would you want to be someone down there that was super knowledgeable, knew what was up, and is like, oh, we're gonna die. I'd want to be blissfully ignorant, like I don't want
that countdown clock on my oxygen tank. I mean like earlier in this episode, I literally told you my to do list is wake up and panic. Nothing about me on that vessel would be blissful ignorant, Yes, blissful. So what you're saying is we never have to worry about this because no one in their right mind would take both of us together on any kind edition like this. You don't ask me to go on your DeepC expedition. It's a
no for me, no for me. You know what I did do, Randy Tis, I'm really okay with just watching footage of other people exploring the ocean. I don't actually need to do it myself. And that I feel like, is that something that you sort of are born with or is that something that comes with money? Yeah? Oh yeah, I don't know, you know what I mean? Yes, I don't want to like these people
who are like launching themselves on these SpaceX rockets into the ether. Yeah, and like paying a quarter of a million dollars to go check out the Titanic wreckage like they have simulators at Disney World. I'm okay, yeah, I can't. I want to live a little bit longer. And then that billionaire's step son who went to the Blink on eighty Tube show while they were looking for these people. On one hand, I understand they were expensive tickets.
The logic that what am I It's not like he's leading this search, right, He's not with the navy or the coast Guard. There's nothing he could do by sitting there doing nothing, yeah, to help locate these people or keep them alive or whatever. But it was just kind of like a pipe. You don't post it, just go dude, you could just go on joy. And then he got a d M from Travis Barker, that was like praying for you and your family. Did you see CARDI like take him
apart what she was? She didn't. It's to story CARDI b and she was like people are saying like, should he just be sad and sitting around, Yes, that's just sad Dad. You should be wisdr mom and your family praying? Boy not shaking. You're bleep and bleep at a plink way to concert. Just the Internet had a lot of different feelings about the titan tragedy, and there were just so many different points of coverage. It was.
I was, I mean, I was glued. I was glued to the screens and just one of those things that you did not see coming for the year. No, not on the bingo card. No, but like, no, well done Netflix re minding everyone that Titanic is streaming. Yeah, I saw some people do, like you guys, Netflix put Titanic on. I was like, no, no, no, they did not titank is but on for months. I would know. I've watched it like four times. It's my Saturday night. Watch the actual film. The actual film.
Okay, yeah, it is three hours and twelve minutes of it's a good cry. Yeah, yeah. So I also don't think going on a cruise is on my card. I want to so bad go on a cruise. Yes, why I think they can't? You just go to an all inclusive somewhere on land. I like boats, you like boats were good for boat people, But I wonder if I wouldn't do well because when we went out two weekends ago on like Michigan, it's the furthest I've gone out on
a boat, and I couldn't really see the shore. And I was like, oh no, no, no, no, So maybe I'm all talk not a lot of walk, because that's also what I puked. Yeah, oh yeah, okay, and it showed up on the fish monitor. It's a lot of bomb. So maybe I am not built for a cruise. In front of your kids, yes, well it goes Oh mom, can't be on the boat anymore. Yeah, I just absolutely blue show. But the waves were really big, That's what I'll say. Waves were. I
hadn't had anything to drink, I'd not really been snacking. I just leaned over the side and then there was another boat a little bit down the way, and all I could hear where the guys go. You're doing no good? Over there, so maybe I'm not built for a cruise. The summer Solstice, I was out on Lake Michigan on a boat. I've never been
out on the big Lake. I've been in every different experience. It's a very different experience when you're in Grand Haven and you're on a boat and you're going down the channel and you pass like Snug Harbor and you pass Pronto Pops
and everything's fine, like it's a no wake zone. You hit this wall of cold air, yes, and it's like you travel into a different dimension, is what it feels like to me, because like the temperature drops fifteen degrees and all of a sudden, the waves are like giant, and I'm like and I'm like not. I don't get super scared on boats, like I tend to feel pretty comfortable on them. But there were sometimes where I
was like, oh yeah, we're heading back right right like soon. Oh yeah, man, it was kind of scary two handed grip and just kept my whole receipt for like five straight minutes. Is it better on a bigger boat, I don't know. Maybe I don't know those mute, the big, taller ones, though I wouldn't want to be up there or like rocking back and forth like the billionaire ones. The billionaire one. You know, I'm not not a billionaire sympathizer. If they were puking because their boat was
too shaky, you get what you get. Wake up, panic. Do not sympathize with billionaires unless unless they die in a submersive US and then not being callous sympathetic about that. Sorry about that. But also if I would stay on the land, Muriel had it right too, under her legs, stay on the beach rill and you know, maybe just she should have stayed down there. There's a lot going on of here too. Oh God, I love us