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Build a Better Agency Podcast

Scale and grow your agency with better clients, invested employees, and a stronger bottom line, with Drew McLellan.

Episodes

EP 267: Build your agency’s authority position through authorship with Josh Steimle

It’s an age-old adage – books are a three-dimensional business card. In today’s vernacular (from the book Sell With Authority ) a book is an excellent example of cornerstone content. Many agency owners I know are curious about how to become a successful author but have decided they’ll never have the time or space to actually write that book. Josh Steimle has helped many clients recognize that they actually can get that book written and it doesn’t have to take years or be a painful experience. Jo...

Nov 16, 202056 minEp. 267

EP 266: How are clients being impacted by COVID and the recession with Susan Baier

How are clients thinking about and reacting to both COVID and the recession it triggered is on every agency owner’s mind. Will our clients go dormant? How are they approaching 2021 budgets and plans? Because we know this is vital intelligence for you, we decided to make that the focus of the 2020 Agency Edge research project. You’re going to find the data insightful and a relief. The Agency Edge research series is a collaboration between AMI, Audience Audit, and Dynata. Audience Audit’s Susan Ba...

Nov 09, 20201 hr 14 minEp. 266

EP 265: Should your agency niche down and specialize? with Drew McLellan

It’s an age-old discussion. Should an agency specialize and focus on specific niches or should they be a generalist? If you’re familiar with AMI or have read the book I co-wrote with Stephen Woessner (Sell with Authority), you know that I believe there are some huge advantages to claiming your authority position and being a specialist. You don’t have to take my word for it – in this episode, I am going to show you some data to make the point. But, even if you choose to remain a generalist, that ...

Nov 02, 202049 minEp. 265

EP 264: The ROI of thought leadership with Susan Baier and Stephen Woessner

Thought leadership is one of those buzzwords that has been so overused, it has almost been rendered meaningless. But as Stephen Woessner and I preach to agency owners in our book, Sell with Authority, when done well for the right reasons, being an authority can drive significant revenue for your agency. Stephen’s agency, Predictive ROI, decided they wanted to quantify the value of thought leadership so they engaged Susan Baier (Audience Audit) to do some research to answer the question “is there...

Oct 26, 20201 hr 4 minEp. 264

EP 263: How to show up as a great leader within your agency with Chad Carden

After this year, I think agency leaders can all rightfully claim their MBA in leadership! With the recession and COVID-19 rewriting our plans for 2020, we’ve all been challenged to step way outside of our comfort zones. And yet, I believe we can all get even better. How can we level-up as leaders and make sure our team is aligned and bringing their best to the job? My guest this week, Chad Carden, is on a life mission to improve the way leaders interact with their teams to create greater engagem...

Oct 19, 20201 hr 1 minEp. 263

EP 262: Simplifying content creation with Steve Pockross

Creating content is both a huge opportunity and a big challenge for agencies. How do you elevate your efforts so that the content is actually meaningful to the audience and attracts prospects? How do you properly price your content efforts so you get paid fairly? If you’re looking for good writers – what are the clues that they’ll be able to do the work? All of these questions affect your bottom line. Luckily, there are principles you can follow to ensure your content creation is on-point, wheth...

Oct 12, 202050 minEp. 262

EP 261: Is A.I. a part of your agency’s toolbox? with Neil Sahota

A.I. As agency owners and leaders, we understand what it is and what it does, but we haven’t quite figured out the best way to use it in our own agencies for ours or our clients’ benefit. Many still believe it’s something inaccessible or unaffordable. But, A.I. can transform our deliverables, change the ROI we deliver to clients, and make us even better at what we do. Today. At an affordable price. My guest for this week’s episode is Neil Sahota, a professor at UC-Irvine in California. Neil is a...

Oct 05, 202050 minEp. 261

EP 260: Your To Dos for the 4th quarter with Drew McLellan

As agency owners and leaders, we have 90 days to put 2020 to bed and get ready for 2021. To help you prepare, I’ve created a To Do list for every agency owner to work through in the 4th quarter. Use this checklist to dodge the landmines and give your agency a leg up for the new year. In this episode of Build A Better Agency, I’ll walk you through the To Do list I’ve built out based on what I call the four critical components of a profitable and growing agency. They are leadership, biz dev, getti...

Sep 28, 202054 minEp. 260

EP 259: Creating a culture of active learning in your agency with Cecilia Gorman

Ongoing professional development is a challenge in most agencies. It’s tough to gather the right tools/resources, some agency owners aren’t sure about how to make it happen and for most the biggest challenge is making the time. And yet we know that one of the critical elements of our agency’s ongoing success is that our team has to keep getting better. I am a firm believer that professional development is a shared responsibility, which means your employees should do some of it on their own time ...

Sep 21, 20201 hr 2 minEp. 259

EP 258: How to become a more effective agency leader with Elise Mitchell

Many of us have earned our MBAs in leadership over this past year. As we wrap up 2020, we have some ground to make up and we can’t do that alone. We need to inspire our teammates to rise to the occasion, overcome their personal speed bumps, and build momentum as we drive to the end of the year. Elise Mitchell’s experience running agencies and coaching business owners provides actionable clarity on how we get there. Elise Mitchell started Mitchell, her PR firm back in the nineties grew it to a se...

Sep 14, 20201 hr 3 minEp. 258

EP 257: How agencies can use public speaking as a biz dev tool with Grant Baldwin

They say that the only thing we fear more than public speaking is death. That’s some pretty deep seeded fear! On top of the fear, many agencies want to leverage speaking as part of their biz dev strategy but there are so many questions. How do you get in front of the right audience? How do you capture email addresses from the stage? How do you convince event organizers that you have something of value to offer? The good news is – it’s not as scary or as hard as it might appear. We are itching to...

Sep 07, 202051 minEp. 257

EP 256: Putting systems and processes into your agency with David Jenyns

Agency growth isn’t easy and it isn’t a given. It’s not because agency owners don’t want to build their agency to be sustainable, scalable, or sellable down the road. It’s because they consciously or unconsciously avoid putting systems and processes into place. Instead of having a “your agency name here” way, every one of your team members has their own way of serving clients and getting the work done. When you’re five people, that’s tolerable. But once you get past ten employees or so, that bre...

Aug 31, 202056 minEp. 256

EP 255: Your agency in the post-COVID world with Drew McLellan

There’s no doubt that covid is going to leave its mark. For most of us, it’s the most disruptive event of our lifetime. The question is – what are those lasting marks? In this solocast, I’m going to walk you the changes that I think are inevitable. Some of them are short term and others will be around for many years. The good news is – it’s not all bad news! We’re going to look at changes that will impact your staffing, your pocketbook, the work you do, what clients are demanding, and how your w...

Aug 24, 202050 minEp. 255

EP 254: Looping your agency into the membership economy with Robbie Baxter

We all have experienced the membership economy. Disney+, Dollar Shave Club, and a wide variety of meal prep kits delivered to your door. But, does it work in the B2B or service delivery worlds? When we talk about the membership economy, we are talking about something much deeper than the transactional value of memberships and subscriptions we pay for each month. It’s about how we are treated and cared for by the businesses whose programs we join. As we think about how to strategically guide our ...

Aug 17, 202050 minEp. 254

EP 253: Smart outsourcing for agencies with Brian Gerstner

Prior to the economic downturn in ‘07-’08, I worked with a lot of agency owners who were very adamant that they would never outsource any of their services. Then the recession hit. Agencies were forced to trim their payroll and job-out projects to 1099s and other partners. Today, 99% of the agencies I work with have a hybrid business model that incorporates some type of outsourcing. When done well, this is actually a benefit to your clients so the question becomes how can you make this work in y...

Aug 10, 202057 minEp. 253

EP 252: Subconscious barriers to your agency’s success with Amira Alvarez

This may be the most unorthodox episode of Build A Better Agency to date. When I met Amira Alverez, who helps agency owners and leaders really harness the power of the subconscious mind, I was intrigued and invited her to be a guest. But then she asked if she could turn the tables on me and do a coaching session with me – live – and we’d let all of you eavesdrop in on the session. I’ll admit, I was anxious about it. I didn’t want the episode to be about me. But Amira flipped the script and takes...

Aug 03, 20201 hr 12 minEp. 252

EP 251: The science of marketing with Patrick Renvoise

As agency owners, we are constantly searching for new ways to harness the power of persuasion and trigger an audience’s buy-button on behalf of our clients. Understanding what’s happening inside the consumer’s head and what drives their behavior is where that effort begins. We’ve always worked to understand how audiences in the past, but what if we could leverage data and science to crack the code and target the decision-making part of a prospect’s brain? As a neuroscientist and an agency owner,...

Jul 27, 202058 minEp. 251

EP 250: State of the Agency 2020 Pt. II with Drew McLellan

In my 250th (man, how times flies!) episode of Build a Better Agency, we look at the next set of client and employee-focused trends from the 2020 Agency Trends Report, picking up where I left off in episode #245 , which was me walking you through the first half of the trends. The back half of the report covers everything from employee retention and happiness to the changing needs of your clients as they respond to current events. I am hoping these trends will give you a better idea of what we ca...

Jul 20, 202052 minEp. 250

EP 249: Claim your agency’s position of authority with Michelle Prince

Most agencies do not have a reliable sales strategy. They either rely on referrals or they employ what I call the feast or famine methodology. Neither strategy actually delivers consistent, profitable prospects or new clients. There’s a new, better way to sell for agencies. I’m a huge believer in an agency owning a position of authority and using it to make sales easier, faster and more profitable. That’s why Stephen Woessner and I wrote a book on the subject ! And it’s why I wanted to invite Mi...

Jul 13, 202059 minEp. 249

EP 248: Moving towards racial equality in your agency with Jennifer Long

The Black Lives Matter movement has triggered a global conversation that has been a long time coming. Like other business owners, agency leaders are wrestling with the questions and concerns about racial equality in their agency and in our industry. How should our agencies respond internally and externally? The demand for conversations about racial equality is louder and more urgent now than it has ever been. Employment attorney and discrimination complaint investigator Jennifer Long has a scala...

Jul 06, 20201 hr 10 minEp. 248

EP 247: Book your agency solid with Matthew Kimberley

There are very few agency owners who love biz dev. It’s time consuming, sometimes it feels like you are trying to target shoot in the dark, and you often end up settling for prospects that aren’t quite the right fit. But at least it’s a win! Your spidey senses are tingling and you know there’s trouble ahead but you ignore that little voice and forge ahead, hoping for the best. What if you could eliminate those near misses? I’m a firm believer that every agency should have a clear understanding o...

Jun 29, 202057 minEp. 247

EP 246: How agencies are putting math behind marketing with Eric Vardon

Most agencies have yet to harness the power of data automation tools, and the numbers reveal a concerning reality. 60% of all agencies believe that they make at least 6 costly digital marketing mistakes on a client’s account every week. 33% of agencies have eaten between $5-$10,000 to fix a single campaign mistake. And it doesn’t get better with size. The number of mistakes nearly doubles when a digital agency scales from $1 million to $5 million in fees. And that’s not the most horrifying news ...

Jun 22, 202059 minEp. 246

EP 245: State of the Agency 2020 Pt. I with Drew McLellan

The past three months have felt like a bad sci-fi movie. As agency leaders, most of us have navigated the economic struggles right after 9/11 and the great recession of 07-08’. But nothing has come close to the economic, health, and social impacts that we’ve experienced recently. But we need to stay smart and fight our way out of this economic slowdown. I want to share some trends that will help you do just that. COVID continues to be a major topic of discussion throughout the world. It is still...

Jun 15, 202046 minEp. 245

EP 244: Navigating the complex legal issues that agencies face with Sharon Toerek

Most agency owners would put attorneys in the cost column. Until they get into legal trouble. Then, they quickly realize how much they could have ultimately saved if they’d been a little more proactive and worked with an attorney before they got into hot water. But with the right attorney who specializes in agencies and understands our world, you can navigate common legal obstacles while saving hundreds of thousands of dollars. My guest is AMI’s go to attorney, Sharon Toerek. Sharon’s depth of e...

Jun 08, 202058 minEp. 244

EP 243: How agencies and brands are approaching budgets and new projects for 2020 and beyond with Lee McKnight

There are two questions plaguing agencies in the spring of 2020. The first is how are brands going to respond to covid when it comes to budgets, tackling new projects and their relationships with agencies. The second is how can the agency sensitively and successfully mine for new business while the world is trying to get back on its axis. Fortunately, RSW/US recently released a new study that answers both of these questions and is filled with more good news than you might expect. The first piece...

Jun 01, 202057 minEp. 243

EP 242: Paycheck Protection Program loan answers for agency owners with Craig Cody

The most popular relief loan in the US is the Paycheck Protection Program loan or PPP loan. Unfortunately, in a rush to get the funds out to agencies and other businesses, the Small Business Administration and Treasury Department forgot to define how the loan and its forgiveness will work. There’s a lot of grey area surrounding the PPP, so in this episode of Build a Better Agency, tax advisor Craig Cody joins me to explain what we do know and what we’re still waiting to discover. Craig is a Cert...

May 25, 202049 minEp. 242

EP 241: Leveraging an agency owner’s strengths to crush biz dev with Jody Sutter

Very few agency owners are giddy about the prospect of prospecting for new clients. It feels uncomfortable and unnatural. But what if it isn’t that they hate biz dev but that they just weren’t doing it in a way that aligns with their strengths? If sales felt comfortable and easy, wouldn’t you do more of it? In this episode of Build a Better Agency, we are joined by biz dev expert Jody Sutter of The Sutter Company, a new business consultancy that advises small agencies on organizing and operation...

May 18, 202052 minEp. 241

EP 240: 5 mini plans agency leaders can use to thrive through covid with Drew McLellan

The panic around COVID lockdown is plateauing. The storm has certainly not passed, but we’ve navigated out of the panic stage and now everyone is realizing they need to get back to business. Whether you live someplace that is still sheltering in place or you are figuring out how to get back to the office — we have to sustain our business through this and come out on the other side. If we do it well, we can not only come out on the other side but we can come on stronger and better than ever. In t...

May 11, 20201 hr 22 minEp. 240

EP 239: A new tool to add to your agency’s sales strategy with Jeff Winters

There’s always been a great debate among agency owners – does cold email work as a new business strategy. Many will argue that given SPAM filters and the volume of email that everyone gets, it’s impossible to break through and actually get the attention of someone in the C-suite. My guest Jeff Winters proves that belief wrong for his clients every day. But will it work for your agency? There’s always been a great debate among agency owners – does cold email work as a new business strategy. Many ...

May 04, 202054 minEp. 239

EP 238: Connect with agency prospects using virtual events with Nicole Mahoney

When you realize that this episode is about holding a virtual event, you might jump to the conclusion that this is a C19 focused episode. Nothing could be further from the truth. Virtual events have been successful for years and are always worth considering, pandemic or not! Agency owner Nicole Mahoney has always been an innovative marketer on behalf of her agency. Her podcast and other industry-specific content has positioned her agency as one of the country’s authorities on destination marketi...

Apr 27, 202054 minEp. 238
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