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Breakingpoints dot com. Well, just as we got the news that Republicans did indeed decide to seat George Santos on committees, we are also learning, a courtesy of Patch dot com, allegations that he took money that was intended to help a disabled veteran whose dog was deadly ill and has since passed away. The veteran has told Patch basically that what happened was he had a sapphire this puppy who was in need, this dog who is in need of
a three thousand dollars surgery. A vet tech pulled him aside and said, Hey, I know this guy who can help you. The guide turned out to be by the name of one of George Santos's aliases. Santos allegedly took the three thousand dollars, closed the account, and never gave that money to the disabled veteran in question. The dog, as I mentioned earlier, passed away. Ryan. Anytime somebody gets caught in a cycle of bad press, some folks will try to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.
I know CNN like interviewed his former college roomy or whatever, and this has been sort of blown up into a huge media story. I think it's newsworthy for sure. But all of these different questions lead us to wondering this story seems very very real't There don't seem to be holes pokable in this story. We have online evidence of the charity. We have the accounts of two different veterans on the story. George Santos, you mentioned this before we
started taping the segment. There seems to be an indication that maybe he's just wired differently, that there's a psychopathy at play in his right Most people would not be able to kind of physically stomach the what was required to pull this off, Like you just just if you go up to ninety nine percent of the global public and say that you'll give them that they can have three thousand dollars, But in order to do that, they have to scam an unhoused veteran whose dog is dying.
Very few people are going to take that, and the people who want to help him right, and everybody who's trying to help, they set the criminal element of it aside, set everything else aside. Most people would just say, absolutely not. There's just no way I could even live with myself if I did something like that, And so it takes a particular mindset to be able to just have no feeling at all, or to even kind of thrive on
the feelings of having ripped people off. You mentioned earlier that you know there will always be con artists in the world, but to conyr way into Congress in the way that George Santos did, not just by telling the usual lies, but by actually being like a very real con artist reminded me of the Netflix series that got super popular last year about Anna Sarokan also known as Anna Deelvi, who conned her way into the upper echelons of New York social life, and that was sort of
remarkable to people how she was able in this age of social media and the Internet to create an image of herself that actually convinced people this is somebody who belongs in our socialite club. George Santos does that. Basically, there's an emergent picture that looks kind of parallel to anadelby that he's cobbling money together from these various places, by making up these various stories, even using aliases and
all of that. The guy ended up in Congress, right, and maybe that was never his intention in this was like one foot in front of the other kind of thing where you realize that if you run for Congress that you can you know, you can raise money and then you can live off of that money. Can't do it legally, but if you can, you can fudge you actually can pay yourself a small incomes legally, but you
can't benefit personally. Otherwise, what he was doing is h he was rent He was renting basically a place for himself to stay in using the using the campaign money to pay for that. You can get away with a lot because of how dysfunctional the FEC is and because the way that nobody's really checking on this stuff unless you win, Like if you win, then people are going to start to check. So he ran twice and the way that he won, though, I think is the is
the serious question that needs answering. You can, if you know, if you can defraud tens of thousands of dollars out of people and endlessly running for Congress or setting up a scam pack. It's when you get over the half million dollar market, you become like a credible candidate. And so where did Santos get this half million dollar loan that he was able to give his campaign? That that's
a key question. And are Republicans nervous that that's going to expose some type of corruption that makes this more than just kind of this kind of this kind of like silly thing that you can courting off to the side, although there's nothing silly about what he did to this veteran. Or do they think that he's such a kind of unique figure that they're immune from any fallout of this.
I would assume that it's mostly the latter. They should, though, be concerned, because I think there's increasing evidence they understood that his record was checked and dubious at best. Because you always do vulnerability studies. You always do that to preempt the opposition research and It's interesting the story came out in local media because I think one of the reasons that you get these blind spots is because local media doesn't have the resources that used to catch this
stuff before people become members of Congress, for instance. But this is already, I think, exposing problems in the Republican Party. And there's even the new right folks like Pedro Gunzalez coming in and saying he's skated. You know, they knew this stuff. And maybe this half million dollar benefactor knew some of this stuff, and is why Republicans stuck with Santos. We don't know, but that's an open question. Maybe there
is a benefactor who pushed through it. He's saying, listen, Republicans do this stuff, and you have members establishment folks like Elis Stephonic we're trying to remake the Republican Party, who said, listen, this guy checks all of our kind of identity politics boxes off of He's an instrument for us, He's a weapon for us to neutralize criticism from the Democrats. He can be a face of the Republican Party because he claims to be all of these different things, and
that's a good thing. And you know in the new right people are like what utter rot in the Republican Party that they would excuse a clear history of perhaps sociopathy or whatever, so's it pathic behavior because of that, and so Republicans should be nervous. I mean, I do think this Our corporate press has blown this wide lay out of proportion to its actual newsworthiness which exists. But it does, I think reflect seriously on the Republican Party
and problems in our politics. And I think you're right that if because Republicans don't have a strong bench of those candidates that they want to check the box they don't have, you know, they're not drawing, you know, from millions and millions of supporters and then the best of those coming forward and running. That's why you're going to get some some total cranks desperation who are able to check the right boxes and move through the Republican primaries,
and some will end up being complete con artists. Now, the best, the best clue we have yet of where this money came from is this. So this guy Andrew intertur and his wife maxed out to Santos, gave tens of thousands of other of money to other committees that were linked to him since twenty twenty, according to The Washington Post, and the Post notes that his cousin is Russian billionaire Victor Wexelberg, who's been sanctioned by the US
government for his role in the Russian energy industry. This would be the kind of Russian interference that actually does happen, like Russian oligarchs, ye, funneling money into the into the system to try to get to try to get unsanctioned.
Like that's a that's I'm not saying that that's what happened here, but that would not that would not be crazy, right if that's what if that's if it turns out that this Bexelberg character had something to do with us, well, I assume we're going to find out more, and I would assume federal investigators will want to know where the money came from, kind of as part of a plea bargain that they might offer to him. Yeah, and I think that that half million dollars is the big open
question here. So we'll continue to follow the story of Congressman an A. Delvi as it develops. You might have seen the new MLK statue in Boston. Some people have noticed a phallic interpretation. Well, but notice that fel interpretation. Others have just called it hideously ugly. I remain part of that category. I don't think there's any possible redeeming
explanation for it. And yet somehow CNN's Don Lemon and the sculptor himself twisted themselves and to actually blame the people who are noticing how terrible the sculpture is and what it shows around on them. Here's their defense. Let's take a listen. Look at the hands in the picture, and then look at that the art piece, designed by conceptual artist Hank Willis Thomas, only features a couple's arms during the embrace and not their heads, which has sparked
in mixed reaction. There's not the missing heads that the atrocity. Although people lamb on the app it's a stump that looks like a PINIONI that's the joke. Look at this, YouTubers. I'm sorry, but that looks like a giant penis right there. I'm sorry it does. I think the artists did a great job. I'm I'm satisfied, but it represents something that brings people to get it all right. Not sure where we played some of that because it's just obviously tolls.
But listen, joining us now as conceptual artist behind the statue, Hank Willis Thomas, good morning. I tell you I saw the small version and the concept beforehanded to dinner, and I thought it was fantastic. Lots of people who think it's fantastic. Okay, so a couple of rapid fire questions. So you're happy with it? Oh over the joke? O. No, there are no plans to modify or change it. No, what'd you do that? If asked? I mean by who?
I mean, because this is a piece that was selected by the people of Boston, and this is not Hank just came and put something. Thousands of people who worked on this, thousands of people actually put it together, and no one saw this, I would say, perverse perspective, and I mean to bring that to the King's legacy and is to dictate the making of art in the celebration
of them was really strange for me. I think it's I mean, obviously you see what you onspy said in the art, and I think sometimes the most compelling art is the controversial art. Wow. Yeah, so apparently it's a rorschack test. Hundreds of people worked on it, never saw it, So then they're idiots and they should all be fired at their job. Do you believe they spent ten million dollars on this thing? I mean, yeah, I listen for the sculptor. I understand defending your work for like CNN,
what's wrong? Why are you doing this right? And it's like, yeah, if you saw this as a looking like a giant dick, because literally everyone from a certain angle was like, that looks like a giant dick, that's really on you. That's about what's in your head. I know there's a lot to say about this that I don't really get. And look, I don't want to be like controversial or whatever, but you know, the whole thing is supposed to like honor the king's marriage and like, you know, the whole like
love for each other thing. And I'm not going to go into all the details, but it's not like that exactly what was the best saying? Also, why does that really have anything to do with Mlka's legacy? You know, the whole point was that his personal life shouldn't be should be separate, I guess from his actual achievements during the civil rights era. And then finally is like a modern art perspective. I know, I'm not using the term modern,
it's I'm technically what is it postmodern or whatever? It's like, just put up a statue of the two of them, Like, why is everything so so like interpretive these days? What's wrong with a statue of them hugging each other clearly with their faces? Yes? How did this get through? Like he said, many people were involved. No one was like, guys, this is going a little I think I think they were afraid of being accused of being Honestly, I really
think that's what it is. You know, people are going to call you a racist if you think that the statue looks like shit. People are literal shit, anti confrontational too, so they're like if everyone else like, yeah, it's great, it's amazing, They're like, yeah, totally, I love it. There are a couple of other moments though, that I liked in this clip. First of all, Don Lemon at the top. You know, they play like a couple of people being including Megan Kelly being like it looks like a giant dick,
and it's like those are trolls. I don't even know why we played it, Like the only people who would, and it also almost turns it into like this kind of Parson thing. Yeah, like you're only right wing trolls would say the statue was terrible and it's like no, literally, anybody with eyeballs looking at this thing would say that it's terrible and it's an embarrassment. That's number one. Number two.
I like the humble brag, the subtle humble brag from Don Lemon at the top there to notice that he's like, I got an advanced field. I thought it was phenomenal. Yeah. And the bigger point, which is that Phenon made a big show of rearranging their like morning show, and this is supposed to be Chryslick's big imprint on the on the network he comes from Morning TV. This show is way worse than what they used to have, way worse. That's true. I mean it was not great with the
other two hosts. I'm not saying it was amazing. I wasn't doing that well in the ratings, but it was way better than whatever that. I got a soft spot for a John Berman. He was always always treated you wells always very nice. You seem like a nice guy, Yes, nice nice guy. I had me on a bunch of times during the Sanders campaign and whatever this and apparently Kaitlin and Don Lemon apparently like hate each other. It's like very clear on her. So it's going well over there. Sorry,
an absolutely crazy situation happening right now in Arizona. Let's gohe and put this up there on the screen. The city of Scottsdale has decided to stop selling water to
an unincorporated enclave of houses that were built nearby. So this is roughly five hundred to seven hundred homes with about one thousand people who are living there who have been totally shut off from the water supply because the city says it now has to focus on conserving water for its own residents and can sell to this unincorporated area. So this area previously had been able to rely on Scottsdale and had a link up to their city reservoir.
And the overall problem is that this area of the Snoring Desert has had a drought for nearly twenty years, and even though there is major rainfall happening right now in California, it's just not enough. It's to fill up some of the storage units and others. Many of the houses themselves were also built and actually sold to them by developers who didn't warn them about this issue. They don't have necessarily storage tanks and some of the other like if you're living truly off the grid, you know,
they know what they're doing. You got water tanks, rain collectors, all that other stuff. But these people thought, they're like, yeah, it's not incorporated, but you know whatever, the water doesn't just shut off and they're skipping showers, their toilets don't work. I mean talking about a total breakdown in their quality of life in a matter of like two days. And there is no there's no like when is the water coming back, There's no guarantee, yeah, happening. So this is
all emit a major drought. I was just telling you before. I love Scottsdale. I think is one of the most beautiful parts of the country. Is such a great city. And yeah, look, I mean I knew when I was there and it was like one hundred and fifteen degrees. I'm like, I don't really know how people live here. And now kind of getting a little taste of why. There's a quote in here where someone's lag like are
we just camping now? Now? Yeah, we're doing I mean, you know, they bought homes, they knew they were in a more rural area. That was what they signed up for. They did not sign up for not having running water. And the way this went down is what they were doing before is they have these big storage reservoirs that get filled up basically once a month. They get enough water trucked in and filled in these reservoirs to last them and their families roughly a month's time, and then
the truck comes back and fills it up. And the truck was coming from Scottsdale, and so Scottsdale said, no, we're not doing this anymore. And part of what happened here, I mean this is sort of does come down to these like sort of skivee developers, it seems to me, because Arizona has a law on the books where you're not allowed to build a development if you don't have an identified water supply that will last at least one hundred years. But there's a loophole for developments less than
six houses. So what these developers would do is they would take attractive land divided into five houses and then do a whole bunch of these to sort of get away with this loophole, and so you know, you can see these residents understandably, they're also looking at their home prices, Like, even if they wanted to leave, if you just got nuked, who is going to buy your house that doesn't have
a dedicated water supply, So they're totally screwed. And they're looking at places like Scottsdale that have beautiful golf courses which take massive amounts of waters and swimming pools, and you know, and other nearby communities. Apparently there's a nearby community that has one of the largest fountains in the entire world, and they're like, what the hell, Like, we can't even have water to flush our toilets, And I
think that is a fair point. So anyway, it's a bit of a window into just the type of decisions and water wars that could really be coming, because a lot of the reservoirs that provide water for this entire western part of the country have been diminishing and diminishing and diminishing, and you're starting to have battles over like the Colorado River water is a big one. There are people who are trying to fight to basically privatize so
that it goes to the highest bidder. You have investors coming in from Saudi Arabian buying up water rights and using it for farming that gets shipped back to there. So there. This is one little example of how crucial and how devastating these battles ultimately could be as we move into the future. Yeah. Absolutely, so everybody just look pay attention to these types of things. It could happen.
I think the fairest point they have having again been they're not wrong, like it's a lush green area, not naturally. You know, you've got all these golf courses and all these resorts and all these things going on. It's like you can spare a tank of water for the city. I think these people should sue those developers because clearly
they were scheming or whatever. And you know, probably Arizona State government or whoever needs to step in here because this is Yes, I do have to say there was one line that I thought was interesting and funny and
how people get like very ideologically driven. One idea was all right, well let's form our own little group here as a community, and we will pay to have trucks go to a further away, not Scott's seale, but another further away location that will still sell us water and we'll have our own like self funded water provided provider. And the quote here says other residents revolted, saying the idea would foist an expensive, freedom stealing new arm of
government on them. So the idea collapsed. So those are probably the people who've got the reservoirs and they're like, yeah, screw you, I'm not paying for it. Yeah. Yeah, have some sympathetic some property taxes are bullshit. Yeah, but it's just like you're so anti government that you're willing to literally go without water, rather than it's like they have the whole community of a few, you know, probably like a few hundred people. It's like it's not a big
expansive guards literally just you and your neighbors. But yeah, their their ideology is too strong. They don't want they don't want their freedom stolen from their neighbors who are also just trying to get maybe their preppers, and they've been living for this for their entire lives. You and I, we all know the type. A lot of discussions across America about the labor shortage, was it unemployment benefits, was
it pandemic. Was it just a difference in the way that people think, Well, we're getting some actually very interesting new data. Let's put it up there on the screen. A paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research finds that a majority of the post pandemic shortfall in the labor supply is people who are working fewer hours, not people becoming non workers. Cutting back is especially most common amongst high earning men who worked very long hours before
the pandemic. So let's actually read exactly what they say. Quote. Although the pre existing trend of lower labor force participation by young men without a college degree accounts for some of the decline, the intensive margin accounts for more than half of the decline. Between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty two.
The decline in hours amongst workers was larger for men than women, and amongst men, the decline was larger for those with a bachelor's degree than those with a high or then with less education, for prime age workers than older workers, and also for those who already worked long hours and had high earnings. Workers hours reduction can explain why the labor market is even tighter than it was expected at the current levels of unemployment. And labor force participation.
I like this because it dispels a lot of memes. One of the big memes in our society, especially more like a conservative meme, is unemployment made it so that people refuse to work. And you could have credibly claimed that until we cut unemployment off more than a year ago and we still have a used labor shortage. Yeah, so it's like, well, okay, in fact, I remember the states that did it first, they actually saw there they yeah, it got even worse for that, so they had worse unemployment.
So it was unemployment or at least unemployment. Maybe EV had something to do with it, but wasn't the whole story, And predominantly the whole story just is I don't want to work a crappy job. I don't want to work as much. I want to spend a ton more time with my kids. I mean, if there is any one solid benefit to pandemic, it might actually be this one.
My only hope would be that, of course, people who are actually working class and not of not bachelor degree holders, which is more than half of the population, would get the same benefits to work less hours than their white collar counterpropus one hundred percent but I do think that this reset in the way people view their lives and reprioritize their lives. I think it's nothing but positive direct
I mean people, these are the type of workers. So you're talking about relative high earners, college degree holders who were forced to work remotely during the pandemic, and then many of them were like, you know what, work is not everything. I actually like my kids turns on, I kind of like my wife. It's kind of nice having like other priorities in my life and having other things than just define me other than just who I am
in the workplace ultimately. And then you couple that with the data we talked about last week Sager of which jobs make people the most like miserable doing them, and it's like lawyer and banker, those are the two most miserable professions. And in general it was like white collar workers. Now again, I want to take all of that with a grain of salt, because some of the occupations that they said that were the happiest were ones that were,
you know, difficult and dangerous. And you have a lot of blue collar workers whose work is you know, very difficult and can be degrading the way that they're treated in the workplace and low paid and all of those sorts of things. But it still was kind of revealing that the things that were making people the happiest, not only in terms of their occupations but where they want to spend their time had nothing to do with this
like miserable office existence. So some rebalancing of those scales, I do think it's a tremendously tremendously positive thing and better values for us to have as a society as a whole. Oh yeah, I mean, look, I have multiple friends who had to work in high finance, and it sucked the soul out of every single one of them. I don't have a single one that survived more than let's say, like three to four years. It just burns you. You get basically burnt to the core, and then they
all end up going do something else. But again, this is a white collar discussion, particularly, so we don't just need, like, you know, for all of the talk of white collar people cutting back, like we just had a whole episode where guys who work on a railroad literally can't get one paid sick day. I mean, for me, the big hope would be that because this group of people has so much cultural power that the fact that they have a shift in mindset helps to use a terrible term,
trickle down to everybody else. That would be like the big, grand optimistic vision. But I mean, to be really serious, I do think that a resetting of priorities, at a resetting of values is just a genuinely, genuinely good thing. All of the panic about the labor force participation rate dropping, I think is silly. I think this is from like boss class and a lot of people who you know, really liked it when they had this labor oversupply and then you had like too many workers for the jobs
and you could just treat them as disposable. So any rebalancing of the scales in that direction, in my opinion, is a positive. Yeah, I agree with you. All right, we here at Counterpoints are going on a crusade. That's right, and we're going to win this campaign. We're driving this all the way home. We want the cameras in the House chamber and you know what, the Senate to house, the Senate escaping this to continue to give us the kind of drama that they gave us that week where
there were no rules. So actually over at the Intercept, we kicked off a petition that says, basically, if we put this put this one up here, basically says free the cameras. This is directed to Kevin McCarthy. Allow the cameras to not just pan as Nuke Gingrich wanted it to one speaker behind the podium, but let us see
what's going on in the whole chamber. And actually one thing that people will learn is that there's nobody in the House chamber and maybe that'll start frustrating people and then actually we might actually get people all together in the room like that's that's fun, that's democracy. It feels it feels right. We'll put that, We'll put that petition down down in the notes underneath here. Who was the Tea Party Patriots? Is that? Who Tea Party Patriots put
up that second element here for us? Yeah, so Tea Party Patriots sort of took the side actually of the intercept and the lever I believe in others sort of left wing groups that signed the petition, but also has to go a little further what they consider a little bit further. So in addition to adding c Span to continue to broadcast, they said they want to also I'm trying to read. Maybe I need a new multiicam view of the House. Yeah, the multiicam, the viewers can select
from multiple vantage points. So it's like citizen journalists, so people can do their own yeah production right, empowering citizen journalists via c SPAN Now I like it so. Interestingly enough, I had a conversation with a leadership source yesterday that I think floated some some very relevant information. This is to counterpoints. The leadership source said there are eight cameras in the House Chamber at all times as of right now.
That is up from six cameras in the one hundred and sixteenth Congress, seven cameras in the one hundred and seventeenth Congress, so it's now eight in one hundred and eighteenth. And they also pointed out there are six cameras with they had forty two transit in the one hundred back and right. That went up to seventy three transitions in the next congress, so it's it's increased. I'm not sure this is okay. So this is the first hour of
rules debate in each of those congress, so this is there. There. They took what should have been a representative sample basically from the first hour and said basically that in the one hundred and eighteenth Congress, not only have the cameras increased, but the transitions and the multiple views have increased. Now, the interesting thing here, and this is actually I think a worthwhile argument, and I think Ryan has a good solution. But the worthwhile argument is that c SPAN is not
is not the House Gallery. It's not the same thing. So c SPAN is not nationalized, and so the argument that there's a conglomeration of cable right, So there's the slippery slope argument that says what differentiates c SPAN from MSNBC or Fox News. So if c SPAN gets control of the cameras as to patriots said there and the and the different viewpoints, then or as the petition says, then what would happen when Fox News or MSNBC comes to the House Gallery and says, hey, we want control
of the cameras. Why does c SPAN get this privilege? And we don't because a lot of people think of c SPAN almost like PBS, right, like it's this or even more nationalized and federalized than PBS. But it's not. And that distinction is what makes that really really hard because if you do it with c SPAN. Why don't you do it with others? Now? Is the solution then to nationalize c Span? Yeah, I'd have to. I got
to think this through. On the one hand, yes, nationalized c SPAN, make it public and maybe let PBS do it something like that, because I understand the resistance to wanting to allowing Fox, msn NBC, CNN, because then where do you stop, like who else do you let in? Like? Right? And and then and then you have the government in the position of kind of licensing certain media but not licensing others, which they already do. So they already do,
but you don't. But it's but it's it's dicey. Yeah, when you're getting into that area, then part of me is like, you know what, let let MSNBC, CNN, Fox, like if they're but then who do you not let in? So okay, so all right, I'd say I would. I still I'm still signing the petition and im and I'm saying, all right, take a shot if if if the House Gallery is going to add more cameras and going to continue to allow but they've got to I mean, if they do a good job, fine, let's see. Yeah, yeah, no,
I think that's a good point. I mean, yeah, I was all, I'm completely in Fabruary. I saw the Tea Party Patriots thing and I was like, hell, yeah, let's do this. And as I sort of dug into it a little bit more and talk to a source, it was It's an interesting counter argument because I can see like editorial decisions, especially with c SPAN. If you see those clips are the ones that as people are tuning
into cable newsless, they get used in tweets. We use them, they get used in instagrams, they get clipped everywhere, Facebook, YouTube, wherever,
and become really important. And so you are making editorial decisions as the person who controls these cameras, and if you're just showing you know, Republicans in bad light, Orf, you're just showing democrats in bad light, whether it's chaos or sleeping, and you're not doing it proportionally to you know, both people sleeping in the get like you can have a real effect on the discourse by those editorial judgments.
So I do understand that argument, and I think you know, their solution isn't the end of the world saying hey, we're increasing cameras, We're increasing different views. So I'm willing to see that out. But I also think there's something important about figuring out how to because they listen, like they do make this decision about who's license to have credentials, they do make those decisions. Is there a way to do something similar here? And one thing? So one counter
that that just occurred to me. It could be the argument that, well, if you let c SPAN in, then you have to let in Fox, MSNBC and CNN doesn't hold because Congress can do whatever it wants, Like Congress could write into the rules we allow c SPAN and not the others, like there's actually there's actually nobody who's going to force you to change if you're the lawmakers. If you're the rule makers, then then you can do
whatever you want. You could just say c SPAN. The history of this is fun, but then you have a hard time when someone comes to you and says, well, why why because we say so because public likes se SPAN and they don't like you. That's why, get out of here. But the history is kind of fun. In
the nineteenth century, you probably know this. The biggest prize in Washington was the contract to do all the printing for Congress, and whoever won the speakership was able to give that prize out to give that contract, and so the party that one would then have its partisan paper get a massive subsidy from Congress, from the taxpayer. And so it would be funny if you said, Okay, if Republicans are in power, Fox gets to control the cameras,
and if Democrats are in control, MSNBC gets the cameras. Sorry, CNN, they are a little more partisan than you are. Well, you know, they're still relying to all of this, which is even if this solution falls short, it's actually still better than where it was before. If the number of cameras are increasing, the number of views are increasing, and
this issue has become more high profile. A lot of people have been talking about this this week, to the point where the petition is going viral and two Patriots was weighing in people on both sides. This is important. I think this does really matter a lot. We should be able to see what's happening. The speakership battle proved that we got a lot of insight. It gave reporters questions to ask. There was a lot more that we understood about that battle. Because we're porters knew what to
latch onto. They knew to ask about Mike Rogers, they knew to ask about some of these schisms that were happening in fights that were happening in real time. Because of what we could see in c SPAN, the public got to see it in a way that I think was extremely enlightening and broaden the context that we all had for understanding what was transpiring with our government. So it is important and the more views and the more transparency we get, the better. And anyone who wants to
help in that way, I think that's great. That's the silver lining is that it's at least advancing in some direction. There you go, and then people have to actually show up and be on the floor. That's right, Yeah, that's hey. Maybe this incentivizes them to do that, maybe well to actually govern. All right, stick around, we'll have more for you soon. Real Clear Investigations is out with a new piece.
We could put this one up here that they call the rise of the of the single woke female or the single woke and young democratic female trying to be one of these It's one of these pieces that's that is kind of putting a finger on a zeitgeisty kind of voter block. You know, they make direct reference at the top of the story to soccer moms, the way that both Democrats and Republicans were battling over this demographic that they that existed. But it was also kind of
creation of political consultant minds. When Sarah Palin came in trying to carve into that demographic, she very consciously called herself a hockey mom. Wasn't even also, like two thousand and four, right, the Ohio in particular, and under the soccer mom stereotype, the consultant class was really laser focused on what gets the Ohio soccer mom, the Pennsylvania soccer mom onto either side, right, and Republicans thought that they really had the sauce that was going to like really
work with the soccer moms at the time. So now you have real clear investigations flagging what they're calling SWF basically never married women, they don't get to be soccer ma, right, and so women in their twenty thirties forties who are overwhelmingly Democratic. So what, you know, what what drew you to this piece? You know, to your point, I think it's what they're trying to do is coin the SWF which sounds like if it gives you back to the
single white female you know s WF imagery. But they say, well, married men and women as well as unmarried men broke for the GOP. This is last cycle. CNN Exit pools found that sixty eight percent of unmarried women voted Democrats.
And so the logical progression of this argument is that if you have such a clear majority of unmarried women and an increasing majority of unmarried women supporting Democrats, and you also have an increasing majority of women becoming unmarried, then this is a huge, huge demographic boost for Democrats. They also say their power is growing thanks to the
demographic wins. The number of never married women has grown from about twenty percent nineteen fifty to over thirty percent twenty twenty two, while of married women has declined from almost seventy percent in nineteen fifty to under fifty percent today. And so you have the overall percentage, they say, of married households with children declining from thirty seven percent in
nineteen seventy six to twenty one percent today. That I do find interesting that you have these two things happening at once, less women getting married and more unmarried women supporting Democrats. They get into all the reasons that it
might be sort of the cultural reasons. They talk about education rates, they talk about when you're less likely to own a home, perhaps you're more likely to vote for Democrats, the fact that you're existing in densely populated urban areas, all of these different reasons that women previously may have aged into more conservative voting patterns. Typically we just saw different rates of voting. So it's I think actually a pretty interesting question that sort of swf coinage aside. There's
something in there for Democrats for sure. Yeah, home ownership linked to fan only formation is the force that has, you know, historically pulled people to the right in the United States of America. Like as people look at it
at age, as people age they become more conservative. There's a you know, they're playing you know, several funny cliches about that, but it's it's what happens as you age that that ends up shaping your politics and the and the significant the significant drivers of that are one, you kids and you know, worrying about you know, uh, you know, their financial futures right and and their and their safety, their security, and related to that is is home ownership right,
and so then you you become invested in policies that are going to preserve the status quo. Uh and are and are and are hopefully going to grow your kind of investment in in this in the status quo, Whereas if you don't have a piece of that, then you're
then you're much more willing to take risks there. I was looking at some polling recently of the twenty twenty presidential campaign, and if you were over the age of sixty five voting the Democratic primary, the number that there were only I think sixteen percent of people who said that they were going to vote for the person that
most closely aligned with their politics. Everyone else was just going to vote for whoever could be Trump, Whereas when you got to young people under twenty five, a majority of them said they're going to just vote for whoever it is that is going to make the world a better place that believes in the same values, shares the same values that they do. And when you're younger, you're able to do that because you have less to lose.
You know, you have less to lose, And that's how political scientists have understood this kind of shift that people go through it's not that your politics change when you're older, it's that your willingness to take risk goes down, and so not getting the house in the suburbs and going
through the process of family formation changes that calculus. Yeah, and they invoke the Life of Julia, of course predictably, but I think interestingly and to interesting effect, which was it has a very big place in the sort of the pantheon of conservative movement or the great book of Things that you know, people on the right latch onto from the Obama administration it's it's a Life of Julia thing that it's the life of Julia thing where the
Bomba administration trotted out as a good thing every step of this woman, this hypothetical woman, Julia's life where she would get help from the government. And on the right, I think there are very real arguments that it was a celebration of dependency in a way that sort of went beyond what the public consensus always was about the
relationship between a person and their government. But also I think probably resonates with a lot of people, especially post recession, which is when the Life of Julia was released, and the sort of hyper individualism that has always been informed by you know, Paul Ryan giving his staff copies of an Rand and you know, that sort of old school conservative movement mentality has been replaced by you know, Tim card Carney writing books like Alienated America about how the
problem is alienation and not necessarily you know, it is actually Obama's the dependency agenda creating hyper individualization. There's a groundswell after Youngkin's election in the Conservative movement of saying the Republican Party should become the party of parents. Well, if there are less parents, your strategy can't just be the party of parents. It has to be also the party that appeals to Julia. They have to find some way to do that. It's not just that Democrats are
going to become increasingly reliant on that demographic. It's how do Republicans become a party that can also appeal to Julia, that can also tap into saying. There's this really sad New Yorker cover from the Middle of the Pandemic. I don't know if you remember. It's a young woman trash all over her apartment, takeout containers, a cat pill bottles, She's drinking a martini on a zoom call. Yeah, how do Republicans tap into that. I don't think they have
good answers right now. Well, I mean, what they have to do is they have to turn Julie into a parent, and they are now suffering from the very results of the policies that they championed in eight in nineteen nineties. If you go in and you destroy people's economic security, then you shouldn't be surprised that as a result they're delaying having children. Common sense and surveys all say that the reason that people are delaying or not having children
is financial insecurity. They can't afford it. It's too expensive marriage. Yeah, and so it's right, the same thing with marriage. And so Reaganomics in that entire neoliberal order produced the very procarity that has led now to so many people saying, you know what, I don't have anything to lose anymore, so screw you. Well, it's interesting because Reaganomics was really a reaction to government that I don't think we're administered responsibly that created some of these problems as well in
low income populations. And so that's where I think it's difficult to have this conversation because, on the one hand, you do need to be sure that these policies are not cynically administered to create dependents that creates electoral benefits. And then at the same time, you need to make sure that if you're going to the other side, you damn well better be taking a look at what people actually need. I mean, one of the biggest drivers on
unhappiness and stress in this country is freaking healthcare. I mean, it's just like Republicans have no answer to that question, absolutely none. So they shouldn't be surprised when Julia turns to the government and says, I'm out of luck, I'm screwed if something happens to me. This is a policy I will vote on. They just don't have any answers,
all right. So then if we can get the Republicans supporting kind of left wing kind of pro family ideas like creating actual economic security, which then we'll create more parents, create more children, and then maybe eventually they'll turn into reactionaries a vote for Republicans. I'm fine with that trade off. Fine,
let's do that. Yeah, make everybody's life better, and if they end up voting Republican as a results, but then we'll have that fight, then bookmark this video so that when that happens Ryan Grimgritz credit for being the car rove that's right started your course. Now you guys just take all right, Well, we'll have more right after this.
Hey there, my name is James Lee. Welcome to another segment of fifty one forty nine on breaking Points and today let's explore the hot button topic permeating the minds of CEOs and billionaires at this year's World Economic Forum annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland. The Wall Street Journal at Davos mood is somber as many CEO's question Economic Outlook Reuters twenty twenty three, CEO's most gloomy on growth in more than a decade Bloomberg News. CEO's economist worry global
recession looms as wef begins. Davos has gone mainstream, and recession has gone mainstream. PwC survey shows seventy three percent of chief executives across the world are expecting a global economic growth to decline over the next twelve months. That is the most pessimistic view CEOs have had since the survey started over a decade ago. Mark, We've been expecting a slowdown, but an overwhelming number of CEOs say it's coming this year. Yeah, and it's Cheryl and I were
just talking about this. I feel like if there is a recession this year, which I think is likely, that this is going to go down as one of the most telegraphed, most consensus recessions ever because everyone seems to be on board. Everyone believes that there's going to be a recession sometime this year, one of the most telegraphed mo consensus recessions ever, says mister ceo. There does anyone else find it very odd the nature of today's discourse
where CEOs and billionaires are all predicting a recession. Jeff Bezos, who has ninety jillion dollars of his personal net worth in Amazon stock, told people not to use it the probability to say, if we're not in a recession right now, we're likely to be in one very soon. If you're an individual and you're thinking about buying a large screen TV,
maybe slow that down now, hear me out. I understand what content creators and the media say, things like we're going into a recession, the world is ending it buy camp foods, et cetera. It gets clicks and it gets used. I see it happen with my own videos as well. But what I don't understand is that if you're Jeff Bezos and you make money from consumer spending, why are you going out of your way to say that there's going to be a recession and that you need to
be careful about spending money. And I'm not just cherrypicking here. Look at these other examples of some of the most rich and powerful people on earth that's in the exact same thing, you know, mild recession for I don't know, eighteen months or something like that recession, and they're likely to put us in subki recession six nine months from now. It's an increase in interest rates that eventually will result in an economic slowdown. So I'm afraid that the bears
on this one have a pretty strong argument. Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Jamie Diamond, Bill Gates. I'm not saying their predictions are necessarily wrong, but these aren't exactly the types of people who would go against their own financial interests and offer up this kind of advice from the goodness of their hearts. I don't think they'll let me know
what you think, but I think there's more going on here. Yeah, we had to take some losses in our subprime department last year, but those losses will be contained at only five percent. All I have a question, please sir. The Q and A is after my statements. But you know what you see? How can I help you? How are you fine? Thank you? Would you say that it is a possibility or a probability that subprime losses stop at five percent? Thank you? I would say it is a
very strong probability, indeed zero zero. There is a zero percent chance that your subprime losses will stop at five percent zero. Excuse me, I have to take this. You must be from Bank of America. Yeah. That is how we expect people in positions of power to behave In the weeks and months leading up to an economic recession.
The wealthy, the elite, the establishment mouthpieces will say, no, the market is strong and there's nothing to worry about, and any opinions and evidence contrary to that are to be dismissed as fringe conspiracies. Today, however, mega investment firms like Blackrock are publicly shouting from the rooftops telling us to quote unquote get ready for a recession unlike any other and what worked in the past won't work. Now.
This is really bizarre to me because, and this is a little anecdote, the commencement speaker at my MBA graduation. Her name was Sally Kratchak. She was kind of a famous former research analyst and banking executive. She told us in her speech that there was an unwritten rule within Wall Street to never write or publish negative research. Basically, if you predicted that the market would go up and it didn't, that would be okay, just dust your stuff
off and we'll get it right the next time. But if you predicted that the market would go down and it didn't, you'd be crucified and fired. That was just
how it was apparently. But for some reason, they've now done a complete one eighty and throughout all of twenty twenty two, CEOs and billionaires have been pumulgating this recession narrative, so much so that over fifty percent of Americans think that the economy is only going to get worse in twenty twenty three, according to a recent Wall Street Journal poll.
So it's either that people in power are for some reason more honest, more altruistic now and warning people about getting smart with their money, or there's something else going on. I think they'll give me something else going on. First off, despite however outwardly quote unquote somber, the mood has been for CEOs, the fact is that US corporations are still lining up to buy back their own shares. The article I'm citing is from January ninth, twenty twenty three, Bloomberg News. Quote.
Despite ninety eight percent or whatever survey you want to use of CEOs saying that they're worried about a recession, they are still comfortable enough to spend money on stock buybacks. So are they really that worried? That's a good question, are they because evidence suggests that a recession isn't much of a worry if you have enough capital, due to the fact that you can not only withstand a recession, but you'll come out of it even better off than
you were previously. The Great Depression, the dot com bubble, the finalinancial crisis, their survivors always got bigger. But here
is the key difference. You remember that clip from earlier, the big short The big banks were definitely aware of their overlever position and knew they were exposed if the bubble were to pop, Probably not to the degree or magnitude, but they knew it would be bad for them, which is why it was widely reported afterwards that many of them had tried to conceal their bad investments and financial woes with quote unquote accounting slide of hand, accounting slide
of hand. Interesting how they put that, But my point is this is not the case today. According to a report from JP Morgan, all the big banks appear to be well capitalized to whether a recession. The nomenclature on this graphic looks a little bit technical, but to put it simply, even under the worst case scenario, the banks would have more than enough cash and reserved to weather the storm and comply with regulatory requirements that were put
in place after the financial crisis. So in some ways, I guess it's a good thing that they've learned their lesson and won't be on the brink of collapse if the economy were to tank. But maybe not so good in the sense that they might also be willing to tolerate or even bring about a recession for their own self serving interests, knowing full well the negative impact it would have on everyday working people. For example, think about housing. If housing prices were to collapse, who would be best
primed to take advantage? You think a well capitalized institutional investment firm or a full time worker whose job may or may not have been impacted by a recession, trying to pay their monthly mortgage or saving up to buy their first house. This is from Fortune magazine quote. What's an interesting dynamic with institutional investors is a lot of them have been sitting on the sidelines, waiting for that
moment to strike. They're thinking, Hey, I want to buy these homes from you, the builder, but I want to have a discount to do so. These institutional investors don't just want markdowns in the ten percent ballpark. They're hoping for twenty percent and thirty percent. Well that's sort of convenient, isn't it. The hollowing out of America's housing market visa via recession by corporate vultures. Alex carp thank you for being here. I'm very vi How many times have we
been doing this? Many? Many times? Yeah, and we've been through a bit of a roller coaster in terms of the economy, in terms of the world, geopolitics and everything. Where what is your sense now and what do you think the sensibility is here right now. Yeah, I'm look, we built our company and I believe in addressing the world as it is. We've built our company around the way the world is now. I am pessimistic about the near future, very optimistic about what we can do to
help that. Alex Karp of Palanteer Technologies a scarily powerful firm, look them up. But anyway, the point I want to make is that I think that clip perfectly encapsulates the mindset of Davos and the world economic form and the game they play. The CEOs, the billionaires in the business community.
They love to pontificate about the state of the world, the opportunities, the challenges, and how they are the ones somehow best equipped to save the world, except of course, ignoring the fact that they are responsible for causing most, if not all, of the problems in the first place, thus perpetuating the cycle where they create problems. Then they get together to talk about the problems, which then ultimately lead to these backroom deals where they hatch these profit
generating schemes that masquerade around as solutions. That's a conspiracy if there ever was one, because with each of these cycles they gain just a little bit more control over the masses, and we gradually and inevitably lose our personal sovereignty. So is the recession coming? Is it already here? For
now we can only conjecture. But the undeniable truth is that each and every invite a Davos, no doubt, has the ability to profit handsomely from economic, social, and geopolitical disorder, all while prancing about the Swiss Alps cosplaying as altruistic ambassadors of the world. That is all from me this time.
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