236: Initiation

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concept of initiation. Like I'm pretty fond of the concept as far as like who really wants.

a new role. So this is like the standard definition just conceptually of what the word initiation means. Obviously, on Bletso said, so, what I want to focus about is the spiritual understanding of initiation in what it is. But I think that this term is very complex, and as you said, when we hear the word initiation, we think of a ritual or we think of some drama or play, and those do happen, and those are real and true, they are initiations. But in the understanding on the deeper levels,

it's a spiritual process that unfolds within the individual. It is a part of the evolutionary cycle of humankind that as we are evolving the psychic faculties, we undergo the initiation process, which is multiple levels of the psychic senses unfolding as we reach higher levels of realization and develop the actual organs, according to Rudolph Steiner, and the faculties within the actual physical human body to have a higher

perception of spiritual realities. So it's so much more than just a play or a drama or anything like that. And in fact, the I'm just gonna go ahead and quote Rudolph Steiner, let me let me back up. I'm gonna quote doctor Gilbert. Who's quoting doctor Rudolph Steiner. Doctor Robert Gilbert rest in peace. He is a wonderful human being who just even spending one evening with him completely changed my life. It was either last year or the year before. It's been a while now in time blurs,

but it wasn't too long ago. He very suddenly passed away, and I think it was a big shock to the sort of metaphysical space. He was prolific. He was just very impactful and probably one of the most profound modern Rosicrucian thinkers, and it was because of him that I became very fascinated and Rosicrucianism in the first place. So anyway, rest in peace, doctor Gilbert. But this is a quote from one of his lectures from back when he was living.

Initiation rituals present an allegorical form the process of spiritual development. So when you think of long ago, in the times of Egypt, ancient Greece, you know, Persia, India, Tibet, China, where Buddhism was very prevalent in the East as it was you know, forming Hinduism all that stuff, they all

had these different kinds of ritual initiations. Maybe there's the concept of the priest in the west or the guru in the east, right, and it's it's more or less I don't want to say authoritarian, because that's not the right connotation, but it's it's a hierarchy. There's a high archical structure of temple tradition, you know, where you go

to the temple to receive instruction from a master. So in the way ancient past, probably starting back in the times of Egypt, they had the mystery schools, and they had the temples within the pyramids and all over Egypt where you would go to these temples and you would

you would receive knowledge. But back in these days, you had to more or less prove you were a worthy candidate, right, you had to walk a certain path for a while to be deemed worthy to be brought into the inner temple, to receive the mysteries which even then, even all the way back then, the mysteries that were dispensed to worthy candidates or initiates as they would become, had to be earned.

You have this kind of allegorical sense of you know, wielding milner Thor's hammer, or the legend of finding the Holy Grail or pulling King Arthur's sword from the stone. All of these are just allegories for receiving inner, spiritual and initiations by following the way, the spiritual way or the path and unfolding the psychic senses through the development of moral, spiritual all of these faculties that make you a good person, more devoted to your family, to your friends,

your community, being kind hearted, all of these qualities. You had to prove devotion to these, and some traditions even held vowels of silence like I believe we did an episode on the Esscenes, right, and we talked about the Therapeute of Egypt. I think they had like a year long silent period or something like that, and all of that was just to prove to the masters. All Right, this dude's for real. He really wants the mysteries, right,

what are the mysteries? Well, now we know that, and I'm going to read from actual Rosicrucian resources here in a moment, but we know that the mysteries were very power were full multi dimensional knowledge about consciousness and about the nature of reality and the subject and condition that we are in here in earth life, and the truth of God and the source that all creation emanates from.

So the esoteric thread, right, when you think like the Gnostic tradition, the Hermetic tradition, the Rosicrucians, the alchemists, the templar knights, you know, the Egyptian mysteries, the Grecian mysteries, which is Greece, all of these similar traditions that are like kind of saying the same things. Well, they were all traveling these ancient lands, learning in their temples, and they were sharing knowledge, right, and they were learning from

one another. I believe it's I can't remember the exact I could find it if I wasn't sitting here hosting, right, But I think I don't think it's to Maaeus. There's a long story short. I talked about this in the very first episode of the show Let's Get Mystical, where one of the and full disclosure, I have a very hard time keeping it together in my head. Which one is Aristotle, which one is Socrates, and which one is Plato, because like one of them is not even a real person,

and he's using the other one's name. It just confuses me. But one of them writes about Solon, which is a relative of theirs, and Solon is I think it was Plato. Solon is going to Egypt, and then he comes back and he's talking about how he learned about the mysteries of Atlantis, or rather that he learned the great spiritual mysteries from the priests in Egypt. And then he says, but even the priests of Egypt bow to the masters

of the wisdom of Atlantis. So like four hundred years before the birth of Christ, we have these Greek writers talking about how even in Greece they go to learn knowledge and wisdom of the mysteries from the spiritual masters in the land of Egypt, who even all the way back then claimed that their knowledge came from a higher source, a more ancient source. So the point of this is there is a thread if you know where to look.

Where you know, you have authors like Pythagoras who talked about going to India, to all these different places, Egypt and learning. You have different documents that talk about Jesus

doing this. There's even actual no commodity texts that talk about Jesus traveling to different lands, you know, So you have this thread of back in the ancient times, people would be so hungry for the spiritual tradition that they would go visit temples and all these various lands and they would learn, and they would increase their knowledge of

the mysteries. Right, So a little bit of a tangent, but I just wanted to talk about how this information has always been there and it's more or less kind of always been deemed danger by the authorities and the

powers that be. And we'll talk a little bit later about how when the mystery schools became united under Moses the Third, it was just a few decades later that there was a young pharaoh, Amenhotep the fourth, who was so enamored by these mysteries that he changed his name to be Akinatan, which is something to the effect of the Atin, which is the solar disc, and he changed their religion to be monotheistic to observe the solar disc.

You know, Autan the true God, right. And we've talked about this before, where in the far past when they had the symbol of the sun, they're not telling you that they worship the physical sun, but rather that they observed the esoteric view of God, the very person who established Egypt as a monotheistic religion, even though that didn't hold and some later dynasty did that back to the the kind of earlier polytheistic version. But that is a very real part of history, and it's even in the Bible.

It talks about this in the Bible in the in the in the Books of Moses where he's you know, bringing the Jewish people from enslavement in Israel, and you have the story about like the ten plagues, you know that story, right. It even says in there that Egypt was so afraid of the power of God that they changed their religion to you know, believe in the true God,

the one True God. So anyway, we even have real historical occurrences where pharaohs, high and mighty leaders of nations are so enamored by these mysteries, great philosophers, renaissance men literally and figuratively scientists that they are becoming initiated into these mysteries and they're secretly influencing culture because it was more or less dangerous knowledge and still is today. Still I don't feel like it's dangerous in the sense that

it's bad for people. I feel like it's dangerous in the sense that when you are exposed to truth and you understand that you've been lied to your whole life, and that you've been gained and that the system is rigged against you, and as a fact, that might actually be a very part of the condition of living here. It's not so good for the powers to be when all of us come together and we start thinking on our own.

there are people like that. That is a fact, and it's just a sad part of reality that there are many souls that don't care about the truth.

it would become brutally suppressed. And the authorities, whether it be you know, I'll just say, you know, at the time, the Roman Catholic Empire, they start suppressing these movements, slaughtering people, banning them as heresy, burning templars at the stake, slaughtering Cathars, or you know, Gnostic Christians, and there was even bishops at the time who were more aligned with this way of thinking. And even then, gnosticism is just another continuation

of the mysteries. So let's talk a little bit more about the mysteries to understand initigation. So this is actually from a real rosicruci website. This is one of the largest, if not the largest bodies of Rosicrucianism in the world today. It's the AMRC, which is the American branch of Rosicrucianism, and it is it stands for the Ancient Mystic Order of rose Crusis. So this is copied right from their website.

The rosicruci movement, of which the Rosicrucian Order AMRC is the most prominent modern representative, has its roots in the mystery traditions, philosophy, and myths of ancient Egypt, dating back to approximately fifteen hundred BCE. In antiquity, the word mystery referred to a special gnosis or a secret wisdom. Thousands of years ago, in ancient Egypt, select bodies or schools were formed to explore the mysteries of life and learn

the secrets of hidden wisdom. Only sincere students displaying a desire for knowledge and meeting certain tests were considered worthy of being inducted into these mysteries. Over the course of centuries, these mystery schools added an initiatory dimension to the knowledge they transmitted. It is further traditionally related that the order's first member students met in secluded chambers in magnificent old temples, where as candidates they were initiated into the great mysteries.

Their mystical studies then assumed a more closed character and were held exclusively in temples which had been built for that purpose. Rosicrucian tradition relates that the great Pyramids of Giza were most sacred in the eyes of initiates. Contrary to what hysteric historians affirm, our tradition relates that the Giza Pyramids were not built to be the tombs of pharaohs,

but were actually places of study and mystical initiation. The mystery schools, over centuries of time, gradually evolved in the great centers of learning, attracting students from throughout the known world. Pharaoh thought most the Third, who ruled Egypt from fifteen hundred to fourteen forty seven BC, organized the first esoteric schools of initiates, founded upon principles and methods similar to

those perpetuated today by the Rosicrucian order Amorc. Decades later, Pharaoh Amenhutep the Fourth was initiated into the Secret school. The most enlightened pharaoh, history's first monotheist, was so inspired by the mystery teachings that he gave a completely new

direction to Egypt's religion and philosophy. He established a religion which recognized the atone, the solar disc, as being the symbol of the sole deity, the foundation of life itself, the symbol of light, truth, and joy, and changed his name to Aknatin to reflect these new ideas, and although the earlier religion was later re established, the mystical idea was put forth in human consciousness, and its flame never died.

Centuries later, Greek philosophers such as Thales and Pythagoras, the Roman philosopher Plotonus and others journeyed to Egypt and were initiated into the mystery schools. They then brought their advanced learning and wisdom to the Western world. Their experiences are the first records of what eventually grew and blossomed into the Rosicrucian Order. The name of the order as it

is now known, was to come much later. However, the Rosicrucian Order always perpetuated its heritage of ancient symbolism and principles. It was in the time of Charlemagne in seven hundred forty two to eight hundred and fourteen that the French philosopher on Arnaud introduced the mystical teachings into France, and

from there they spread to much of Western Europe. Throughout medieval Europe, mystical knowledge was often necessarily couched in symbolism or disguised and hidden in the love songs of Troubadours, the formularies of alchemists, the symbolical system known as the Kabbala,

and the ritual orders of knighthood. While much of medieval Europe lay in darkness, the highly advanced Arab civilization preserved a lit large body of the mystical teachings through texts translated directly from the great libraries of the ancient world, such as Egypt's Alexandria Library. Philosophy, medicine, mathematics, and alchemy were all important subjects preserved in these libraries and later

transmitted to Europe by the way of Arabs. Just a side note, I'm going to pause and then finish the quote. If you talk to freemasons, a lot of the original knowledge that they were preserving was advanced master craft and stonemasonry, which includes what mathematics science. That's why their symbols the square in the compass rate. Alchemy, the art of transmutation came into prominence with the Alexandrian Greeks. It was then introduced to the Arabs, who then transmitted this art and

the forerunner of chemistry to Europe. The alchemists played a tremendous part in the early history of the Rosicrucian order. While many alchemists were interested in making gold, some were more concerned with the transmutation of human character. European alchemists and knights Templar in contact with the Arab civilization at the time of the Crusades brought much of this wisdom to the West, and the transcendental alchemists, mystics and philosophers

sought to transmute the base elements of human character. That's why I brought this quote. That's the whole crux of all of this. Sought to transmute the base elements of human character and to the more noble virtues, and to release the wisdom of the divine self within the individual. Some of the renowned alchemists who were also Rosicrucians or were closely associated with them were Albertus Magnus, Roger Bacon, Paracelsus Colleague I don't even know how to say this, Cagliostro,

Nicholas Flamel, and Robert Flood. And then here's the final part of this Rosicrucian reference. Right, initiations are as old as the earliest civilizations. The ancient Egyptians learned that the performance of various acts and the use of certain objects helped to facilitate instruction, so that mystical ideas were more

easily impressed upon the minds of the students. Dramas of impressive ceremonies, consisting of music, spectacular lighting, processionals, chanting, and colorful ritual robes became an unforgettable experience to each participant. These mystery dramas were somewhat like the modern day passion plays. And ancient times, the word mystery did not have the same connotation that it does now. It did not mean

strange or weird. Rather, it referred to a unique gnosis, that is, knowledge which was to be revealed to the candidate for initiation. In fact, in ancient Rome, the mysteries were called initia, the initiates were called mistay. The Latin

word initiare meant to inspire, and initia meant beginning or training. Thus, candidates for initiation were introduced to an inspiring knowledge that was to make any emotional or psychic impression upon their consciousness, as well as to add to their knowledge in a dramatic way. The initiation sheds illumination upon certain subjects which

otherwise may not be thoroughly understood and appreciated. Further, the mystical aspect of initiation arouses your psychic and emotional response concerning the subjects you were about to study and produces an awareness, a state of consciousness which otherwise could not be achieved. Rosicruci initiations are rituals designed to mark the

milestones of a student's progress on the mystical path. And these beautiful rituals, mystical laws and principles are demonstrated in a dramatic form in order to both inform and inspire the Rosicrucian student. Okay, so, first off, I got that from I think it's amo Orc dot org. I feel like I owed them a plug. Also, I just love their work amo RC. It's www dot Rosicrution dot org. So I just wanted to go ahead and drop that so that people can read through the literature on their own.

But the main reason I wanted to talk about that is because you're seeing real evidence of an actual living wisdom tradition that spans many thousands of years, telling you right out what it represents, what it meant to the ancients why they still do it today. Most importantly, these initiations serve as dramas, as it very much just said blatantly, to leave an emotional and psychic impression upon your consciousness so that you reach deeper levels of understanding basically about reality.

So we get into the multi dimensional nature of existence, and we understand that when we're talking about such things which are things for big boys and girls, right, this is heavy conversation. We have to understand that the physical world is a lower emanation from higher worlds. We have to when we think of reality itself, God the Creator, we have to think in terms of emanation theology. It's not just that there's Earth and there's Heaven and hell. That's not quite how it is. But there are many

levels and multitudes of order throughout existence. It's like layers of reality where on this layer there's these beings, and then on this layer there's archangels, and on this layer there's you know, AONs as the Gnostics would call them, which are like you know, the lady, and then on this level of the source consciousness, and it goes up and down a lot of layers. Right as you go lower and lower down in the layers down to our layer, which is pretty low, but not that low. This is

a special layer. Right, That's another conversation. If you take a microscope and you look at the cells in your body, you will see that on the molecular level, there are passatterns that represent the stars, the planets, the order in the universe. That at every observable level of reality there are patterns and the way that things order themselves, that their behavior and movements are governed, and just how they function. Right, and you look at even the iris in your eye,

you know, it looks like galaxies. You look at cells and how they clump together, and then you zoom up a little bit. You have cities, you have nations, you have countries, you have solar systems, you have galaxies, you have all that stuff. That's by design. That's intelligent design. This is just some really hard to understand and hard to fathom intelligent simulation that was thought into order from the mind of God, the one God. Right when they

say the one true God, it's consciousness. It's the original thought, the original mind really that thought everything else into being.

So you also should consider that because of this, that because we are just silly little lower emanations of higher worlds, much more intelligent and articulate designs that are not so crude and physical, but they are more spiritual and light and frequency, you know, like non physical dimensions that are purely psychic realms, or you could say astral whatever, pick

your new age flavor. This is old concepts, just said with a thousand different words, right in the way that the little cells represent much bigger and more grand, beautiful, intelligent designs of the stars and the cosmos. The process of evolution of human life is similarly reflected in a macrocosmic way. So the things that happen to us and unfold within our psyches and the choices that we make here on our evolutionary path are also reflective of higher order,

multi dimensional concepts. So that was a very wordy way for me to set the stage with the premise that the ancients knew this very well. So the reason that they held these dramas in these initiations and created all these mythologies and these allegories was to tell you, in a symbolic way that what is happening in the first place is not the play. It's not like, oh, you made it to a level of understanding, you get to go through a little hazing and then you're in the club.

That's not what's happening. What's truly happening is there is a process of evolution that occurs when you go through this initiation or awakening process. What the ancients were telling you and what they're still telling you today. If you go through all these resources and know where to look, that there's evolution occurring on the on the planet, throughout

the human race. And in order to reach the next step in the evolutionary phase is one hundred percent required that you experience you could say, an awakening or an initiation, a spiritual initiation that in order to awaken to the next level of consciousness in our evolutionary progression, you have to have uh development of the psychic faculties. Right, there has to be a progression. How do you develop the psychic faculty faculties? How do you how do you evolve

your consciousness? Well, you know, we'll talk about that from the Steiner perspective. So Rudolph Steiner was an amazing individual as well. Uh oh yeah, we recently did an episode on him. So the difference between in the ancient times

when initiation all of this mystery school stuff. It was more institutional, and it was like hierarchical, and you more or less, you know, you didn't have your phone where you could read every Steiner book on kindle or every you know, you go through amrc's website and go through that on a self paced study. That wasn't a thing back then. You know, they were figuring out papyrus and all that. It was a lot of times word of

mouth tradition for thousands of years. I think Hinduism was word of mouth for the first several hundred, if not thousands of years until they finally wrote the Bagavad Gita, you know, And that's just how it was back then. It was word of mouth. So you more or less had to have a deep yearning to And I want to add to this that I think everyone comes here and there in some way seeking God. It's a part of our design. It's like a spark within our DNA.

We all have that spark of divine consciousness. So we're seeking union with that part of ourselves. But the problem is our beliefs vary. So a lot of people say, well I don't believe in God. Okay, well you believe in something. You're seeking to be reunited with something, some sort of higher power, some sort of you know, maybe it's aliens, maybe I don't know. I don't want to go down the list to you. But everybody is seeking something, everybody.

And then there is that small percentage of people that they think they've found that something and they're not seeking anything more. And then there's another category of people that are like us that it's like, Okay, well I grew up Christian, I grew up God, but I need more. I need a deeper connection with this. I need to understand this on another level. I'm not satisfied, you know what I mean, what's it going to take to satisfy this? Where can I learn?

goes on and on, you know, Egypt. To bet all of it, right, you had to prove that you were a candidate worthy of initiation into the deeper mysteries of consciousness, of our multi dimensional existence, the truth that God is, you know, the original intelligent mind that thought everything into existence, and that there are angelic beings interceding on behalf of humanity. So just to kind of wrap up, but you know I talked about from the Rosicrucian tradition, and just like

a basic kind of shotgun spread about Egyptian tradition. So an Egyptian tradition, initiation, referred to in the context of the mysteries or secret rights of temples and mystery schools, was a sacred, rigorous process of spiritual transformation. It aimed to awaken higher knowledge or gnosis, prepare the individual for the afterlife, and achieve union with the divine forces, particularly through the Osiris myth cycle of death, dismemberment, resurrection and rebirth.

Because we all know the story of Osiris and now he was caught up into fourteen pieces and then he was brought back to life. It's like eternal life, right. It symbolizes eternal life, death and rebirth eternally. That's the same as the oro boris right, the serpent eating its tail. That's the universe. This is constant cycles of life, death,

and then the re birth of life. Unlike modern self guided paths, Egyptian initiation in the ancient past was typically temple based, hierarchical, and conducted under the guidance of priests or high refonts and sacred priescincts like Abidos, which was the center of Osiris worship, Heliopolis, Memphis, or Thebes. It was reserved for those deemed worthy, usually priests or pharaohs, or select aspirants, which you're an aspirant before you're an initiate.

After long preparation involving moral purification, study, fasting, silence, and ethical discipline ethical discipline, the process symbolized a symbolic death and rebirth, mirroring the myth of Osiris and the soul's journey through the duat or which is Egyptian for the underworld. To achieve eternal life as an akh, which is an effective spirit, candidates underwent extended periods of fasting, sometimes forty days, prayer, study of sacred texts, abstinence from pleasures and moral trials

to purify the body, soul, and spirit. This built inner strength and detachment from material desires and is she It's faced symbolic tests representing the four elements like earth, water, air, and fire, or confronting darkness, fear, and ego. These included

the descent into darkness or symbolic tombs and chambers. We've talked about this on episodes past, like sometimes in Greek when you were seeking to be initiated into the mysteries, they would literally create a set that represented like the labyrinth, and they would have people in menotar costumes like the story of Data Lists and the Minotaur, and you would have to navigate through a dark, scary labyrinth and they would have people, you know, jump out at you and

scare the craft out of you, and they would simulate it. In some traditions they simulate you being in hell. It's to really like show you the consequences of not staying on the spiritual path and what happens to your soul

if you don't. So they were very serious and dramatic with these, creating entire dramas in plays Encounters with Guardians or eighties like Anubis the jackalhead, a guide who conducted the soul and oversaw the mummification and rebirth rights or symbolic death, lying in a sarcophagus, or experiencing ritual dismemberment and reassembly, echoing Osiris. I know in many traditions today they have rituals rea to lie in a coffin. I want to say they might do that in freemasonry, but

I can't confirm that. I don't know, but I know they're doing skull in bones, but that's a different animal. I'm not on their side. Central was the passion play of Osiris. The initiate experienced vicariously the god's murder, scattering of limbs searched by Isis, resurrection, and triumph. This granted insight into immortality in the afterlife. Successful initiates received esoteric teachings on cosmology, which is basically the structure of the

universe and its origin. You know, the soul's immortality, magic alchemy, hieroglyphic wisdom, and the hidden forces of nature. Secrets include to the nature of the gods, the afterlife journey is in the Book of the Dead, and how to navigate judgment by Osiris. Weighing your heart against my Odd's feather, which is the it's like the ostrich feather. Initiates wore

valves of silence and ethical conduct. Revealing the mysteries was forbidden, and temple inscriptions were They warned against disclosing the rights and the rituals. The secrecy preserved the power of the knowledge, and the initiate emerged twice born, which is why our band is called twice born or regenerated, often with a new initiatory name. They gained continuity of consciousness beyond death, the ability to act as intermediaries between worlds, and sometimes

priestly or magical authority. Pharaoh's received high initiations aligned with raw and the Great Pyramid to ruless divine instruments. So Stuf's great, it's history. It's awesome. I love studying that stuff. I love being connected to that stuff and learning about that stuff and talking to people who are first hand

involved with that stuff. It's very good stuff. But the whole point I want to make with this episode to establish, like the history and the tradition of this, that all of this served the purpose of being an allegory for the actual psycho physical evolution occurring within human beings that are undergoing spiritual development. That this was such a big deal to the ancients, this knowledge that we are evolving,

that they created entire dramas and plays and orders around this. Right, And the great point is that you don't have to do all that stuff. That's great. It's like, if you want to do it, you know, it's extracurricular. But this is a process that occurs within every one of us.

What does that look like? Well, I know that when you, for example, if you've had a near death experience in your life, or if you've let's just say something crazy, if you've smoked DMT, or if you have experienced completely soul crushing trauma like many people have, I think most have it through this path, whether it's abuse or you know whatever. A lot of people receive their initiation from trauma.

So in my opinion, there are more or less four pathways to receive the first initiation, and that is the three that I just mentioned. Some sort of powerful hallucinogenic like probably DMT would be the one. Near death or extreme trauma, extreme extreme trauma, or you're somebody who is aware of this knowledge and you read about it and you have that calling in your soul to walk this path.

So through rigorous discipline and focus and commitment, you willfully follow the steps that I'm kind of about to briefly go over to initiate this process of evolution within the body and the psyche, for the extra senses to begin to unfold, where you gain abilities like clairvoyance, to where you begin to receive information from the spirit world or you see UFOs as we know them. But we know that it's more complicated than that, that it's a spiritual phenomenon.

So symptoms of initiation are things like spontaneous psychic appearances or experiences appearing or having sightings of orbs of light, you know, interdimensional beings, being able to perceive higher worlds, being able to proceed, angelic beings coming from other realities. I can tell you that I can be next to somebody and this isn't about me. I'm just talking about

my experience, right. I can be next to somebody who has no interest in this stuff at all, no curiosity, normal life baseline, no trauma, none of that other stuff. None of these conditions required have been met, and we can be out skywatching and I've been in many situations like this, and either they will not see an orb for whatever reason. Maybe I'll see it and they're looking away, or they'll see it and they're just like flat affect,

like so is it a satellite? And I'm like, you just saw that appear, you just saw a flash and do this crazy thing, you know, like these kinds of people there there's there's no It's like, there's no, there's nothing there, you know what I mean. So I kind of forgot where I was going with that.

You know, this isn't really the episode for that. But in order to do those things, you have to have undergone the process of initiation. I'm not saying the ritual process of initiation. I'm saying the real process of initiation, which is in your own being you have strived to spiritually develop, has nothing to do with being inside of a temple physically.

But you know, these are very real forces, right, So, like, let's say I've become just because I've been talking about rescrutions. You could just pick one, but I'll say rescrution because that's that's been a very easy resource to quote, right because they're still active today. Let's say I become a RESOCRUSI.

talk more about that next week. I don't want to get ahead of myself. What were you going to say?

a spiritual force. Let's talk about air force. Right, Yeah, I'm not plugging air forces. I'm just saying the example that it is a it is a force. You know, it's a it's an Egregore. It's a real force because that's how the universe works, and everything exists within the realm of mind, and there are dimensions that are no

physical matter entirely in they're purely psychic thought. These egregoric forces and in some cases entities like malevl spirits that people in this world are creating through greed and darkness, and like we talked about in the way TKO Dark Force episode, Uh, those are malevolent more or less entities I believe that have become personified because they're created through our dark thoughts, right, and there's obviously good ones too, And then aside from that, there are entities that exist

before we were created, like angels. Right. It's it's very complicated what exists out there in the universe. But yeah, so, but I want to stress that I'm not like convincing, and the point of this episode is not to say sign up for an order today. That's not the point. The point I wanted to highlight is that this initiation process is something that is required that everyone goes through.

Let's delineate between the play and the drama of initiation and the real multi dimensional nature of you could say initiation or awakening or nosis. So let's change the word for a moment. Let's talk about nosis, because because nosis

is the true initiation, right, So what is nosis? Nosis is when you finally awaken or become illuminated to the truth that you are a multi dimensional immortal being who, for whatever reason, for better or for worse, are having a temporary experience in the Earth life plane, that you are not here permanently, that you're here for a very brief time, but that your soul comes from the permanent place It comes from the source of all thought, all life,

all existence, all consciousness. It comes from the One True God. You're a tiny little spark, like when you see the Sun and you think of like the rays lashing off the Sun and all those you know, plasma waves or whatever they call it, and you think, you know, how big is the sun? Rhetorical question. It's huge, right, It's like of times bigger than the Earth something like that. I'm not sitting here googling numbers. I don't need to, but you get the point.

is that? It's an unfathomable, inconceivable number. I mean I don't know if that could be calculated. Possibly every one of those little individual photons that make up the light of the sun as we understand it, that's.

That's like an allegory of all the different consciousnesses that emanate from the one true God that's the source of all life and all creation. So this is the initiation. This is the nosis that you're an immortal being and that you're having a spiritual experience, that the purpose you come here for is to evolve to the next level of understanding. That we get caught up in the game.

You know, Hey, look I play the game. I have a wife and a on the way, I've paid taxes, I play video games, I do fun stuff, I consume art, I do all that same stuff everybody else does. To a degree, we get distracted by the pleasures of life and by the routine of life. But even life itself is an allegory for the you know, like the cycles of life, right, our little being a baby and then becoming an adult, and then becoming old, and then dying

and returning and then we're reborn. All of that is just allegories of higher order concepts that are beyond our human understand Everything is like everything down here in the earth life plane is like little, tiny, microcosmic dramas of the greater spiritual truths. If you look at any spiritual symbol, it has many meanings. If you look at the unk right you stand it up, you have the circle on top the cross. In one respect it means the on is crossing over the nile. In another respect, it is uh,

the ovaries and the male genitals. It's the masculine and the feminine. And there's even more meanings than that that I can't recall off the top of my head. I have to get my egypt guy on here. But that's just two off the top of my head. Like two definitions of one symbol. How can it mean two things? It can mean a lot of things because life is multi dimensional. You look at a templar cross, they say it's the sun, right, It's also a to roidal field,

many things you look at. I'm blanking on symbols right now. The pentagram but not them. The fish, well sure, I don't know. Yeah, the vesica pisces. Right. You look at the pentacle with the five point of star turning up with the circle. They say that, you know, if you divide the lines and the sections of that, it gives

you the perfect mathematical ratio for spirals. Okay, well, we know that that is one of the primordial expressions of how consciousness moves through dimensions, right, according to these ancient traditions. But then also you could look at it as the five elements. The top is spirit, firewater, earth, air, that it represents all five of the elements. So symbols always have multiple meanings. That's because truth in life is multidimensional.

Human life is multi dimensional. Things have multiple meanings. On one level, saying I love you to my wife and getting married and raising a family is you know, just the normal thing. It's just what I do on earth. It's same with you, same with everybody. We all do it. It's part of you know, what we do. We just find somebody and we you know, we want to partner. We don't want to be alone. We want to find love in this world. We want to do our thing.

Most most people, you know, they have kids, whatever their their thing looks like that they want to do. On a higher level, it's like your higher self choosing to come here to express these things so that you experience all these different perspectives and grow on a soul level. So things have multiple, multiple meanings. They have meanings from the perspective of our experience down here on Earth and

how we perceive them and experience them. Then they have the perspective of the higher dimensions, which are way way more complicated levels of reasoning and understanding of such basic things as like, well, when you express love on the physical level, and I don't just mean romantic, I just mean a kind act in the realm of frequency and energy and spirit, you are uniting opposed forces and attracting them together. So on the one hand, it's like, dude,

you look good in that shirt. Down on the human level, that's yeah, that was really nice, thank you. But on the spiritual level, there is a power and a force behind that expressed act of kindness that is drawing your magnetic field closer to mine. You see what I'm saying. Multi dimensional? It's always multi.

showing me the inside of the sun is accurate. Is just as much of a leap as like religious like it's like faith yep, from a higher I'm not I'm not gonna get on my son denying soapbox here. I'm just saying I've never been to the middle of the sun. No one's ever been in the middle of the sun. No one's ever cut the sun open or even probed it.

The spiritually, you evolve to a new level of understanding. You look at people differently and you think, you know, they've probably just had a bad day, that's why he's treating me that way, or that person is a malevolent spirit. I can't trust them because they don't have any spiritual you know, understanding or capacity in their life, and they are very dark and malevolent, and I don't want them

in my field. You know, you just start to think about things differently when you reach new levels of understanding of things. And having seen thousands of people in my life literally in person and otherwise go through different levels of you know, just on the one hand, having ORB sightings and how it completely blows their mind and change their lives. You never know what you're gonna get, but the point is people get something, you know, they completely change.

They go through these it's like a portal where you just have these realizations, Like the ORB is so powerful, seeing the orbs, the beings, the angels. It's so powerful because even it is multi dimensional because on the one hand, in order to see it, you have to be spiritually evolved to a certain level to where your actual senses are able to perceive it, which I do believe has

to do with the development of the pineal gland. But then on the other hand, the event itself, which is seeing it, serves as a catalyst for this evolutionary process. So sometimes I feel like it's the chicken or the egg, which one comes first. Either way, they're linked. There's something to be noted about seeing beings of light or what most people will understand his UFOs and having an initiatory spiritual awakening event, and that they were intrinsically linked. So

for the people at home, what should I do? How do I see this? Where should I you know, how should I better myself? Well, let me just get to Rudolf Steiner. Rudolf Steiner is really cool. I believe he lived in the eighteen hundreds. I know we did an episode on him. I'm going to just kind of briefly glaze by him. But Rudolf Steiner could be said to be as far as the public is concerned with, just like being an author, writing books, putting it out there.

You don't have to, you know, go through any initiation process or whatever. Rudolf Steiner is probably the most prolific publicly available Rosicrusian thinker. He probably other than like the orders themselves, he probably has given the most to the world about the science of initiation in the path of developing the psychic sensus. I mean, he has tons of books, dude, like knowledge of higher worlds and how to perceive them or how to attain them, the Way of Initiation, occult

science and stuff like that. Like he has so many books just laying this out for the layman. You just buy the book and read it. It's right there. You don't have to do any secret anything, you know. So what I like about Rudolph Steiner is he started his own movement basically called anthroposophy, and he actually was more or less we talked about this on the Steiner episode.

He was more or less removed from theosophy or he just like quit, but he was a part of it at one point, and he he just phased out of it because he wasn't perfectly aligned with it and he saw things different. And I'm more of a Steiner guy. I think Steiner is very profound. And that night many years ago when I was in Asheville and I hung out with doctor Gilbert, that was one of the things he kept getting me on was Rudolf Steiner. He was like, all about Rudolf Steiner, and he's very legit. I think

Rudolf Steiner is very profound. He's one of the greatest thinkers in human history. And without rambling anymore, the whole point is that the Steiner approach is all about walking this path without an authority, without a higher power. You don't have to go to some order, you don't have to go to church. Those are great, Those are fine. You can do those things. You don't have to not do the things you want to do as long as they're good and they bring you value and benefit to

your life. Right. But the point is, truly you don't need those things. It's like riding a bicycle. Okay, Well, if you want to leave the training wills on because it makes you happy and you're more comfortable, that's totally fine. Like you can ride with training wheels on, there's nobody's just like, no, you have to take those off. But when you become an adept at riding a bicycle, you don't need your father or your mother's hand on your back holding you up anymore. And you don't need the

training wheels. You can balance straight down the middle on your own, and you can keep the bicycle vertical and you can ride it without assistance. That's kind of like the spiritual path. Like if you want that assistance, you know, power to you. I'm not going to judge you. I don't think anybody should. But you don't need those things because God is within sight of you, it's directly inside of you. You are completely divine and come from God in the original source of all life and all creations.

So all of that material and information can be found within you, and you can walk the path because the Guru or the Master does not have the power to make you walk the path or give you the ability. All they can do is guide you or teach you. But really it's because you are equally a special as them, you know what I'm saying. So. Rudolph Steiner's interpretation of initiation, often translated from German as Einweihung, is central to his

anthroposophical teachings on spiritual development. He describes it as the culmination of a deliberate modern path of esoteric training that allows individuals to consciously access higher spiritual worlds and gain

direct knowledge of supersensible realities. This is not an ancient, secretive temple ritual bestowed by priests, as in older mystery traditions like Egyptian or Rosicrucian paths, but a self initiated process accessible to anyone who cultivates the necessary inner faculties through moral, meditative, and cognitive exercises and his key work, Knowledge of the Higher Worlds and its Attainment, also published as How to Know Higher Worlds or The Way of Initiation.

Steiner outlines Initiation is the third and highest of the three main stages in spiritual schooling Number one preparation. This evolves cultivating reverence, enter tranquility, moral purity, and control over

thoughts and feelings. It awakens dormant soul capacities and begins to form subtle organs of spiritual perception Enlightenment or illumination Step two and illumination through meditative contemplation like focusing on natural objects like stones or plants, or animals, and eventually human beings, one develops clairvoyant like perception of spiritual forces and colors flowing from beings. This stage builds inerlight and insight into the etheric and astral realms. Initiation number three.

This is the stage where the soul unites fully with the spiritual world, enabling direct experience of higher realities see in orbs people. It involves confronting and pasting symbolic trials, the fire trial for the strength of character and will, the water trial for control over emotions, and reliance on spiritual writing or intuitive grammar. Remember we talk about the allegory of Jesus walking on water. Perhaps it really means

learning to be in control of your emotions. The air trial for freedom and thought and commitment to truth, And I guess there's no earth trial that I'm seeing here. These trials test the initiates maturity, ensuring they can handle spiritual knowledge without egoism or illusion. That's important. Steiner emphasizes that true initiation accelerates what would otherwise unfold over many incarnations. It grants knowledge and proficiency in the spiritual realms it

cannot be obtained otherwise in our current era. The initiate gains continuity of consciousness beyond sleep and death, encounters the guardian of the threshold of being, representing one's own unresolved karma and lower nature. So coming into contact with your ego is it's usually pretty frightening and scary, and ultimately transforms their being to perceive divine truths directly. Importantly, Steiner stresses ethical prerequisites initiation or spiritual initiation. Again, we're not

talking about ritual here. I wanted to end with the Steiner bit to talk about the individual process, right, But Steiner stresses ethical prerequisites. Initiation demands modesty, patience, reverence, moral integrity, and service to others. Without these attempts at spiritual development can lead to hardening of the heart, delusion, or danger. He presents this as a modern path suited to the current age, rooted in Rosicrucian traditions, but adopted for free

individual striving rather than guru dependent submission. For deeper reading, you could check out Knowledge of the Higher Worlds and its attainment. There's chapters on the stages of initiation and also on initiation the mysteries of initiation. He gives lectures on historical and modern forms of it. And you know, the Steiner path is practical and experiential when you follow his exercises persistently. The belief is that, or rather the experience,

is that new spiritual organs form. And I do believe with modern science and understanding of this subject and phenomenology studying experiences like my family and other people, we know that continually having profound spiritual experiences actually evolves parts of the brain. Right, So the point of that is I wanted to stress to people the notion that there is a process that actually occurs within the individual when walking the spiritual path.

to you know, Gnostic tradition. It is elaborated on the notion that it's not about you know, worshiping Jesus or anything like that, but it's more or less he's inviting you to follow along on the path that he is treading that you can do this too, that if you live like I do, that if you use me as an example and you behave this way, you love your neighbor, you love your God as you love yourself. It says at the end of the Book of John, when I leave here, you guys are going to do more miracles

than me. And no amount of books in the world. Every basically like all the pages of every book in the way will be filled with the miracles that you guys will be able to achieve when I leave, is what he was saying. So the spiritual evolution is something that is faded to occur in all of us, but I believe now in the era that we're in, it's more important than ever to walk this path. So there's not going to be a moment where you're like, oh, I'm having my initiation unless you're you know, a part

of an order or something. But otherwise it's a call to have great moral character, virtue, treating people with kindness and love and respect, not being hateful and lacking empathy for other people, you know. Following on from last week's episode, I do believe there is a divergence of consciousness happening between good and evil, and I think it's more important than ever to cultivate goodness and the spiritual path in

our lives because, you know, reality itself is changing. I believe the actual dimension that we live in, in my belief, it is fractured and it is beginning to split. And that's not a physical thing that is invisible, but that is more or less reflected in the way that people on earth, begin to feel, think, perceive, and behave. And there are many of us around the world who is like, this is pretty awesome. I go outside and I talk to the night skuy, I see angels, amazing things happen

around me. But then there's other people that all they want to talk about is politics. All they want to talk about is the negative stuff happening in the world. For them, it's hell. It's not hell.

you know what I mean. So, like, that's that's the difference that there are many people in this world who all life is for them as hell. They can't they can't, They're they're like going mad from the trap of what's what's being told to them and how they're being programmed to think and believe they're on autopilot and they don't have, you know, that that cultivated awareness to be able to

see through illusion. But anyway, I think it's more important than ever for all of us to, you know, just do the best we can what we got, you know, stay positive, any thoughts.