196: Psychic Abilities w/ Hakim Isler

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like it was meant to be. And what I mean by that is that in my twenties I had a friend or actually was my just I was dressed on a cuff about the turn twenty a friend of mine and murdered somebody, really close friend, and it shook me to the core because we were so close that it kind of made me feel like, if he could do that, then am I going to be in this bad situation where I have to make a choice like that one day? And so I was like, I got to get out of here, I got to do something. I got to

grow my life in a different way. And I was I knew I was good at martial arts. I had been doing martial arts since I was eight years old, so it was several years by that point. It was probably like eleven years by then. And I had done music. I'd make music dj. I would DJ at these night clubs, and I also was a lyricist. So I was like, I could do music anywhere, but what martial arts do

I want to actually commit to? And I was really into this idea of Bruce Lee where everything, you know, practice everything takes a little bit away from all these different things. And so I was really going down that path. And I have the friend I bumped into and I was telling him about what was going on with me, and I told him about this dream and then this dream I kept fighting a shadowy figure because he was

like a dream guy, you know. And he was like, oh, maybe it's like the ninja, you know, And I was like Ninja and he was like yeah. He was like, I was like, like the cartoons. He was like yeah, but it's like a real thing, you know, this guy. And he tells me about this stuff. And I go to the library the next day because you know, you didn't have internet to really look at a bunch of stuff up. And I found my teacher. He only had one book there. I found this book, The Ninja in

Their Secret Fighting Art. And I read that book and it was everything that I was looking for. You know, these these these esoteric, very you know, very enlightened and very amazing warriors that were living in the wilderness of Japan, who had all of these different skills and who could do all these magnificent things. And I was like, WHOA, I didn't even notice was a thing. And so I was like, I'm going to go out there and check this out. So I told my mom I was gonna

go to Ohio and visit this martial art school. I wrote. I wrote him first. It took him about two months he wrote me back. I mean, Snell melt Oh, you had to send a.

I was like, I'm gonna do it. And so I just saved up twelve hundred dollars and it took and there. It took me a year for to save about twelve hundred dollars and then and I held on to that that dream that whole time, and I moved to this this ghetto, roach infested apartment uh and in the ghetto of Dayton, and I lived there and I trained with my teacher in the suburbs. And every little bit of money that I had that didn't go to my three hundred dollars a month rent, well it was only because

you had to. You had to share the rent with all little roaches. So so that's how we were able to keep it lovely. So yeah, I ended up moving there, and that's how it happened. So when I came Here's

an interesting story. When I came home and I told my mom that I was going to move to Ohio, that I was going to be a ninja, she just like and shot looked at me and she said, you knew, And I said, I knew what she was like when you were nine you were playing and me and me and your aunt were talking and we looked at you and we said, m what do you want to be when you grew up? And I said, I stood up, stuck my chest out, she said, and I said, I

want to be a ninja? What And she was like, she was like, at the time, we didn't think there was such a thing other than cartoons, and so we were like, oh, that's really cute. We don't want to shoot down his dreams and tell him that this isn't a real thing like Santa Claus, you know, And so they were like they were like, yeah, okay, And she

held on to that. And then when I came back and told her at twenty one that I was going to go and move and be with this ninja guy, she was just like, what the hell Like same and now here we are, twenty five years later, I'm still training with them, and even and recently I got my six degree blackmailed about two years ago, and I'm one of five people who are still active that are training

under him on his wallfall at his dojo. So when I got promoted at his home and his home dojo and with about twenty other or about sixteen other and he I was allowed to we call it the wall of intention. I was allowed to take my photo and

my stick and move it to six degree. So it's like a nine year old who says I want to be a ninja to a twenty one year old who's gonna do this crazy thing like save up twelve hundred dollars and move somewhere up to train in a ninja system, leaving everything behind to a forty something year old forty at the time. I'm six, i believe, or no forty five at the time. Going being in his house, pulling my tab off the wall and moving it to six degree,

it was like insane. It was insane realization. It was super surreal, a serious dedication.

And Sea Lot is a martial arts system of that land, which is which was very You have different versions of it based on where what region you're coming from, almost like kung fu, you know, and so you know, but it was for you know, the Malay people. And now it's you know, because the land, the water rows and the lands have separated. You know, you have Indonesian Sea Lot and you know Borneo Sea Lot and you know, and Malaysia Sea Lot. So yeah, that's very cool.

and I were at Monroe together. If people go back and listen to my original episodes recounting my Gateway experience, I referenced Hakim several times we.

nine I was going to be a ninja. Also at nine, I had a dream that where I dreamt the lot of the lottery ticket the numbers, and my mom played it. She was playing the lottery and I woke up the next day I told her I said, hey, I dreamt these numbers. She said, oh okay, she played them locally and not nationally. They came out nationally, which was a bigger pot, but they didn't come out locally, so we didn't win anything. But it was you know, I wish I had gotten that detail in a dream, like, hey,

here's the numbers. Make sure you play it nationally. But I think I think it was just when I look back at it now, you know, all these years later, I think it was one of it was just the

universe giving me confirmation that hey, you got a gift. Yeah, and it will can continue to show itself until you're ready to really dive into it and really practice it, which is part of the reason when we get to the sy Games talking about that, that's it, like kids are having these experiences, but because there's no mentorship that you know, going on about these things to young people,

and you know, it just kind of gets lost. And then at some point they become adults like us, and then we remember and we say, oh shit, you know, like, let me go back to I want to explore this more. And then you go back and start exploring it and you're like, man, it feels so familiar to me, and

it's because and then you have awakening. You know, you've talked to so many people I'm sure who've had that same experience where they were young and they had these experiences and kind of let them go because it wasn't really supported by our culture, and then they come back to it as adults when they're free to do that.

to pave the road for these side games conversations. So like, I'm curious to know more about your background in this field and then we can really hammer out with the side games. So you become a ninja when you're early twenties, twenty twenty one, I'm curious when your official interest in psychic abilities began officially.

you know. Like so so that was like really, you know, that was that was more of my forte. Even though I was still like a very you know, calm and you know, a good natured person, I still like, I like that rough, tough stuff, you know.

the chi and all that kind of stuff. I knew there was beings going on and all that, but I wasn't like as tapped in as you were at the time. So hearing your martial arts journey is so cool knowing you know where you are today and all this just I say this lovingly, all this crazy stuff you're involved in, right yeah.

see ourselves as multidimensional beings. Right, And so what ends up happening is that when you're young, it's all about the physical because that feels like and people support that. Play football, play basketball, go hit something, go outside, do this, you know, the rough and tumble, and so get into

that space. And then when we start to get in our middle mid mid age, like maybe thirty thirty five, we started settling down a little bit, and you started saying to yourself, Oh, like, what is it like for me to not just be in a gross plane but be in this kind of subtle plane where I'm feeling love and I'm feeling gratitude and I'm starting a family

and I'm doing all of these things. And then you get past that and you start getting really spiritual, because you know, you start saying, well, what is it like when I pass on? What's that going to be like? And how do I give back to the generations behind me? Where if you look at and what from what I understand my personal research into ancient cultures, all that was one you were spiritual. You were physical, but also spiritual

because you had the elders teaching you. As a matter of fact, the youth who came who are coming into the world was raised primarily by the elders who were leaving the world. And in between you had the parents

who had to keep everything going. So you had the moms, you know, doing you know, making clothing and doing things, and you had the dad's going out hunting, and and then you had the young so the young ones were learning all of the spiritual and all of the you know, all that stuff from them, and then they were hanging out with their parents and also learning the physical, so

there wasn't this separation. But we have the luxury in our times now to have that sex separation because we could be you know, we could just afford to go to school and hang out with other kids our age, right. But in the old day, we were all hanging out with the elders. The elders were telling us the secrets. They were passing that on. It was and it wouldn't be unbelievable because we had just come out of the

spirit realm into our bodies. So now listening to this person say oh yeah, now that you're here in this physical body, Listen to this plant, tell you what it you know, whether or not you can eat it. Listen to the animals and how they sound. Listen to the wind tell you that the rain is coming, you know, like, and kids would just be eating it up and then they would become adults and they would support that and their children because that was the way the culture, that

was the way the tribe survived. But then here we are in this very materialistic environment and it's like, you know, we add lip service to what spirituality it is supposed to be, which is kind of dulled out, in my opinion, onto an entity or being that has nothing to do with you or totally separate from you, but gives you things you know, but not a part of you. And some people might say it is a part of you, but they don't believe it, you know, they don't believe

it really deep down inside. And so I kind of feel like there are these three phases that we have now in our multidimensionality that have broken up and separate or really where trinity we should all be. All those things should be with us the whole time through and should be supported by my communities, you know, whether it be our family community or greater community, and you know that should be supported. And I think that's what's really good. The same anyway, I went off wag tangent.

And like the marriage of the physical and the spiritual, like to remind us why the physical and spiritual are are hand in hand. I think that's really cool.

hit home for me. I love all that cartoon stuff. But in the original live action Ninja Turtles movie, at the end of the movie, and I remember their ninja right at the end of the movie, they get together and they meditate because their masters like kept in captivity, they meditate and they actually travel and they leave their body and they all communicate and spirit with their master. And a part of me is like, dang, dude, is

this really like a real part of ninja culture? That's you know what I'm saying, Like, there's something too that the people making this movie, even though it's a silly franchise, like it's about the way of the Ninja, you know, it's got it's real. Yeah, you know, yeah, I think.

You know, it's said I own the building the building is ten thousand square feet, we use about seven thousand of it.

fled up into the mountains. His name is Disk. He comes across this Buddhist monk, this Chinese refugee that was, you know, running from China and that was hiding out in the hills of Japan, and you know, and that guy said, hey, I'll teach you a way to be invisible where you don't have to use physicality as your

only resource to be able to deal with people. And so he taught him about the elements, and he taught him a new way of thinking and being and that was kind of the birth of that first union, and then that built, and then the villages started, and so these people lived off the land, and they wanted to be enlightened, but they were counter. They were counter the culture at the time. If you can imagine the culture that wants to be the authoritarian and wants to create,

you know, control everybody. And now you have these wild people living up in the mountains. You know that you don't know what they're doing, and you just hear that they can control nature and they work one with Nate.

That's scary. Before there's somebody who's trying to you know, own the world basically, so they started to try to kill these folks, and so these folks had to come up with a way to defend themselves because they had a lot of different you know, you know, people who are on the rock and hiding out in these communities,

these rowning and everything else. They put all their minds together and came up with a physical combative method of ni jitsu, which they which they used their knowledge of psychology and self and enlightenment as it means to help them understand how to influence people and use psychological warfare, which is why I went into the siop in the army.

a long time ago. But but what you're telling me is that the mental and spiritual arts came even before the physical.

take care of ourselves. Like we don't. We don't get to just sit around and train to kill at people all day, you know, and so we have to be able to defend ourselves and deal with threats, and in this way that that isn't just physical. And because they were they were in the mountains, in these enlightened communities or these communities that were trying to be one with nature.

They used that to their advantage. And that's what made them such a huge opponent, you know, because they were able to use that knowledge that they had along with their physical, you know, abilities to deal with this threat.

is going to have a physical fighting battle. Most of us are going to have mental battles, emotional battles, spiritual animals. Those can be brought on by other people, those can be brought on by our own selves, those can be brought on by situations. So they were clever in naming the ninja one who endures to put one who can put up with or who can persevere. Ninjitsu means the

art of perseverance, the art of endurance. So the idea is like they weren't sure what you were going to have to deal with as an individual or as a collective. So the goal was like, hey, these are the methods that we study on how to deal with whatever the hell you're dealing with in your life and be able

to come out on top. Because it's going to be different for everyone, and so you study as much as you can and learn as much technology about the different things out there, because you don't know what tool you're going to need, so it's best to have a good sized, very well versus tool. It's mentally and physically, and so you know, that's that's what that's what we are, and

that's for me personally. I take that to heart. So I'm always out here trying to understand different technologies that I feel that would enhance me as a human being and also forward my mission of helping other people enhance themselves so that we can really embody who we truly are.

and then cultures around it. Where you would do uh, finger tying which be which would be your maudra, and you would say your words which would be your mantra, and then you would have these symbols which would be your yontra, right, and so you would you would do this, and then it would invote these abilities and you would tie certain powers to these these maentra, yantra and things of that nature, and then you were able to summon

them as needed. And so they were like, really, oh this sounds cool, Like show me how to do that. And the only answer I would have I had for them was well, let me see you know, I've been doing this for twenty years. Meet me on my property for the next twenty years. Then you might have an experience, you know, and to tell a ten year old of that or eight year old, they're gonna laugh at you like we just did it. We'd be like, are you crazy?

You know? So then I started saying to myself, I started seeing a problem, and I said to myself, well, what's keeping these youth engaged in their own multi dimensional abilities and powers and really getting them to explore the human technology before they farm it out to like tech technology. Nothing against tech technology, but we haven't even really explored who we truly are yet, and we're getting further away from that. So I said, well, I need a quick

protocol to have a person have an experience. I remember my teacher told me when he had first come back. Because everybody was interested in the US government agencies as well as people, you know, regular civilians in this ninja stuff, and he was the guy. He was the American, the first American to go to Japan learned ninjo system and

bring it back to America. So they wanted to know, like, what would he how would these guys successful, What do they have that can help my government or agency or whatever. One of the people he ended up making contact with was a guy named Dell Graft. Dell Graft was running his own program because he was interested in this idea

of remote viewing at the time. But then he eventually linked up with the army guys and he ended up taking over the Army program, so when as it was moving around, because a lot of people ended up controlling it or being in charge of it at at some point.

So he told me about the story about his remote viewing experience and stuff, and then I started looking into that and I found Paul Smith, my teacher, and he was out in Utah and he was one of the one of the second generation of remote viewers, like when it really kind of a first generation when it became an Army program, and he went through that program and he started and now he's out he's been teaching these people. So I was like, I'm gonna go out there and

I'm gonna learn from this guy. And through that, I found a guy another group that was in Utah who was doing this mind sight stuff and it seemed like they they could teach people quit pretty quickly to do it. And I'm like, okay, well, when I did that for my fifth degree, I had to like go through hell just to get that, you know, to learn that, and no kid, you know, is going to do that, and so I need to figure out a protocol for that. And so I started training with those guys and then

it just kept spiraling. Then I found out that the Monro Institute was a place that some of these remote viewers went to go through the gateway experience. So then I was like, Okay, I'm going to go through that. And so I went through my first gateway and then I was like, WHOA blown away by that. I had all these experiences there, and I kept following that path

of learning maybe skill sets, and that's basically it. And so now years later, I've trained with almost all of the all of the ones that are still alive, original remote viewing people from the military. I've trained with Paul Smith, Joe mcmoncle, Bill Ray, Tom McNair, Lynn Buchanan, So all these guys. You know, it's like maybe two people that I haven't trained with, but I really don't have a desire to train with them because of other things. But

you know, but everybody else I've trained. But I love those guys, their family, you know, with mindsight, most of the people who are teaching it in the US and close and abroad, I've trained with them. As well, and so now I have these protocols to kind of help kids. And that's kind of where it all originated, was, you know, hey, I got this problem with these kids. I see a need here, and I want to keep youth connected because

they represent me. They represent the kid at nine years old who said I want these abilities but I couldn't find them. And mostly the you know, and the support team that I had was supportive, oh okay, yeah, yeah, okay, but they didn't know that it was a real thing, you know. And so in the back of my mom, by her own admission, was like, I thought that was you just being a boy and like being silly and

not knowing the truth. What would it be like if we created a world where that we can teach kids these abilities, and then they become adults and have children, and then when the children say I have this experience, the parents are like, oh, yeah, that happens. Let me teach you a little bit more, or let me support you in that, versus saying oh, I know that was Oh you're imagining. You're imagining it, or you you must

be sick, or or for God forbid. You know. They go even deeper and darker than that and be like, oh, you must be possessed or you got some devil or something and that. Yeah, yeah, and that's that's that's terrible, and that shuts people off from you know, their abilities. And if they I will, I will stray to say this. If there are dark forces out there, they that's you not getting that type of growth in that space works in their favor.

Just use just just talk to all the people who are trying to kill you, you know, yes, and you're like you're like you're like, uh, yeah, but you gave me the gun. Yeah. I'm not gonna teach you how to use that thing, because I don't think you need that,

you know, that's that's evil or whatever. Just go over there and talk and yeah, they got guns and they're probably going to try to kill you, but you know, maybe you get lucky and you just happen to have a conversation with the one guy who doesn't want to kill you. You know. But it's like that, like we have the gift. The gifts will give in to us to be powerful in a good positive way and to

continue to be be light bringers to the world. And we're not even exploring what that really feels like because we're doldling it out or we're allowing people to tell us what our experience should be. Right.

it's time to take out. Before we get into side games, could you give us a little crash course on mind sight, because we have briefly mentioned it on our show before, maybe like two episodes, the ones with Dax and Peter, but we haven't like really discussed it with somebody who's still to this day practices it and is more or less an expert on it. So maybe we could have like a crash course on mind sit that.

So that's where remote viewing is different from astral projection, right, because astral projection is me projecting my spirit or my energy somewhere else and I'm only aware of there, but I'm not sure what's going on in my body space because I'm gone, right, my location means that I'm here and there at the same time, so I'm able to retrieve information and bring it back. So that's that's also considered nonlocal awareness because I'm aware of what's going on

non locally right. Local awareness is that I am aware of what's happening locally right, So I'm actually but I'm not using my normal five or six senses in five senses right, So I'm using something else to be aware of that. And so mindsight is your ability to see without your sight and something you know that's that's relative. Some people can actually see, like see through stuff, and

I've had those moments. I'm not as good as some of the folks that I've seen who've had what we call full openings, meaning they can they can literally see real time all the time with something covering their eyes. So I transition back and forth between almost a local awareness it or a local perception where I can perceive and know what I'm looking at even though I can't see what I'm looking at like I would with my eyes, whereas other people can see real time consistently what they're

looking at without their eyes. Now their theories as to why that is, you know, some people say it's your higher self, like there's a portion of you that's outside of you, that's look that's aware of what's happening around you, and so you can see those through that thing's eyes that hire selfs eyes or I'm saying eyes, but it really is in the eyes, right, and so that's what you're looking through. One group that I trained with, they said, well,

it's everything is vibratory. So everything is vibrating, and when you're looking at an object, even though it's really not there, it's just it's because it's just these molecules vibrating at different speeds right in these atoms you, it is making the shape. And so just like we look at the waveform of a cup, like I'm looking at you on the other screen right now, you are just what I'm actually perceiving is the waveform of the image of you that gets you know, goes into my eyes, flips around,

goes back to the back of my mind. My mind kind of makes sense of oh, he that's Ryan. I've seen him before, and I've taken his waveform and I've implanted it on top of it a name and who you are and ideas and concepts about you. Right, But you're just a waveform, just like sound. When I hear sound, it's a waveform hitting my ear, and my brain has learned how to turn that into something that makes sense and means of us to communicate or whether it's music

or whatever. And so that's the same thing with these guys say, with this this vibratory, So when you don't have eyes online, you can sense these things vibrations because your vibration and its vibration can actually melt or you can feel it. And so then you're training your brain how to recognize the vibration of a cup per se, right, or a microphone, or the color red or green, just like your brain has learned how to recognize that through your eyes when it actually sees that we form of

the cup. You can teach your inner body in this case, this one group says, your pinial gland. You could teach it because it's a receiver to perceive the vibrations of this thing and then overlay onto that what it is. So you do it enough times and you feel a cup enough times and you know that the next time you get that feeling, oh that's a cup. You feel the color red, And enough times and you get that feeling and you say, oh, that's the color red, just like we would with our natural eyes. Right.

know like comprehensively, like it's just a waveform. It's still in the room with you. Your body can still sense it with your senses, but not with the senses that it's used to like to experiencing it with learning how to tap into the other ways of sensing what the object is or what the thing you're trying to focus on is. Because your brain knows what it is, it knows how to recognize those waveforms.

And then I'd be trying to explain to them what

these guys over here we're doing. And but these guys over here that could do something that these guys didn't know were possible, and I'm trying to explain to them, you know, And I was like, you know what, we really needed to bring all these people together so that they can see what each other can do, and we can to inspire each other to the next level of this and push each other year after year to get better, right, and that it was like boom side Games and all

that information with them, and then I was like I was like, no, I got two businesses. I got a baby on the way, I got this thing happening, and I got so much stuff going on, like nobody got time for no damn side games, you know, like I'll let somebody. I'll let somebody else figure that out, you know. And then it was synchronicities just kept popping up with something else what happened, and I would be like, oh, my gosh, like and then answer would be side games.

I'd be like, oh, why is this thing happening over here? You know, blah blah blah. And then the solution was side games, and I was like, oh, yeah, but I don't have time for that. Why does that keep coming up? And finally the last straw was I was listening to a podcast and I hope I'm not crossing the lines, but I mentioned another podcast, okay, but it was a guy.

It was George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell on the Weaponize Cool and they had if you guys hadn't read the book, skim Walker's at the Pentagon, they had the d i A, you know, a high leveld a government operative that worked that the you know that worked at the d i A.

He had retired. He wrote this book skim Walkers at the Pentagon, and it was talking about all their research into paranormal and the UAP and things of that nature, and that this was a real phenomenon, that things were really happening, right And George, I mean Jeremy Corbell at one point, and the thing the interviews said, as he says, man, you're talking about some heavy stuff, you know, u A P. Inter dimensional beings. They can you know, shift in and out of phase with us, and if we can't do

any of that, isn't that scary? And the guy said, oh no, I don't see anything scary here at all. He said, what I can tell you and I can only say this much. I can't go into more details, or you try to ask me any more questions. I'm not going to say. But if we could do and embody all that we as human beings are capable of,

we would have no reason to fear these things. And they and it hit and it was like like I don't know, it was like the Tyler Dirton moment, and and it was like I am you know, so it's like it was it was like whoa yes, And then and this is the way I explained it, how it

kind of hit me in a certain way. I was like, if you told me today, hey, haikem tomorrow you're gonna have to fight Mike Tyson, I'd be scared, craplets because I'm not in boxing, because I'm not good enough to fight Mike Tyson in boxing and I have no skill sets that or I haven't trained hard enough to be on that level. However, if I trained and walked the walk of Mike Tyson as a fighter and another you know, as another walk, and then you said, hey, you've earned

your way up here. Now Mike Tyson is the heavyweight champion. I want you to face off to. Yeah, it's still gonna be some nervousness there, but not not if you just pulled me off the street and said tomorrow you're gonna fight Mike Tyson. If I was a champion fighter that I've been fighting championship matches for a long time and then you said that, yeah, it's gonna be some nervousness, but not to the same level because I have the

capabilities and skills to deal with that. We as human beings a very tricky when we when we don't feel like we match up, we immediately fear, and that fear turns into hate, and that and that hate turns into a desire to kill or destroy, and so how do

we get rid of that? You know? Is is? And and let me let me also preface though, that there could be things out there that are also not good, right, so so so so it could be like, yeah, it would be cool to like not just know this because it's going to help me build, not to get rid of ego and fear and all that stuff. This isn't like kumbaya, like, hey, they don't mean none of them mean us any harm, right, and and that we should

just open up to every everything. It could be that there are things out there that mean us harm, and it could and but I also very well know that there are a lot of things out there that don't, but we're just not capable of being able to at this level. Only few of us are capable of being being able to communicate with them on a consistent basis.

And what I really believe is that we raise a generation of people who are able to embrace these abilities and really start to practice and embody who we truly are as these multi dimensional beings, then there's no more. There's not fear on that same level of bumping into an entity and saying, oh shit, I don't know what that is. Oh no, I can do all these things that I can't do, you know, versus saying, oh, hey,

how you doing. I knew at some point you show up, you know, and then that thing knows what level I'm dealing with, so we can have a conversation. We can have a really great conversation versus this really fear based thing where I'm not sure what they want and what they're doing and so on and so forth. And that really set me on this trajectory. And I said, Okay, this has come up so many times, I have to at least try. I have to at least try. And

I talked to Jeffrey mish Love. He backed me. I talked to your dad back me, and I was like, Okay, if it wasn't gonna be, if it didn't make sense, these people wouldn't be getting behind me and it. And apparently it does make sense, and this is the time for And since then, if you look at the Side Game's website, we have grown tremendously and we have yeah, we have some of the most amazing people in the

film that are that are coming to this thing, this realm. Yeah. Yeah, from Diane Diane Powell, who's from my telepathy tapes, to to really Amazing, to Thomas Campbell, to your dad, to Danny Sheehan too. I mean, it's just so many people coming to this. Alan the CEO of Monroe, John Cruth, the president of the Ryan Institute of the University of Virginia Department of Perceptual Studies, is sending three of their high level scientists.

tell I'm always I always say I'm being tricky. I'm being I'm using a little scio here, because because kids are motivated through through fun and they're motivated through competition, and they'll they'll play video game for eight hours a day and not leave the television, right, And and I'm like, so, how do we motivate kids to do this? Well, we have this game, and then they get inspired and they see somebody one of their friends do really well, and

what do you think they're gonna do? They're gonna go home and want to practice. And then when you say, hey, the way you get better at this is you have to get better at what's going on inside. You have to do some meditation, you have to do all this stuff. Now you have a this this is my dream, right, this is my dream. Now you have an eight nine ten year old sitting at home meditating, clearing out all their shit that they've accumulated up to that point to

get even better right at these abilities. But the more all we know, all of this age is say, the more time you spend inside and self reflection and I stay sages, but this could be monks or whatever, you know, whatever culture you're doing with the right the more time you spend in introspection and reflection self reflection, the more you start to weed away all of the crap, and the more you start to recognize not only your own holism, like the true potential that you have, but also how

much you're connected to everything else. And so through this gaming idea, we're going to hopefully create a bridge for kids and young adults start to explore the true nature of who they really are and then doing so, reach a new potential of mankind.

I said, look, man, you just put me in a place and not do whatever he asked me to do. I've never done that, but I'll do it. And you know, here we are, and I'm happy to be a part. I'm excited. My dad's going, although I don't know what his role is. I just know he's going. Maybe he's a oh amazing cool So I'm setting the intention now and with the listeners hearing this and with you you and I have skywatched several times. I know, you know, like we go way back. It goes beyond this internet thing.

You know, we met in my brother's backyard at my nephew's birthday party. So you know the drill. You know the Orbs, You've seen him many times, you know what we do. I'm setting the intention now that when nightfall happens, that we will get to see some Orbs and what an amazing after show, right, So let's let's just throw that out there as an idea. The next thing I wanted to bring up was logistics for those listening at home. Forgive me for not knowing this. When do registrations close

for participants to enter? Because there's two angles here, there's participants and then there's viewers.

If you want to see what it's like to test people and see how well they do and people like really push themselves in these abilities, then we have that competition. Right. Then there are these keynoteses, lectures and speeches where and audience participation training where we have aud the audience work on different things as an audience. And so those are the three aspects. So you can register just to sign up to be there for all of it, or you

can be just participant in the games. And if you signed up for the participant in games, oddly enough, we are nearing our cap of how many people can actually sign up for that.

Let's let's just go into like I want people to leave the show knowing how they can sign up, what they can expect to expect arrangement that get there, because I would love to see our lovely listeners show up, meet the crew, you know, experience the games, be there and witness this historical event. So let's let's let's clarify that so that the people at home listening know where they can go to sign up.

and use the code that you just said. So that's Ryan b PGI for Side Games International twenty five and they will get twenty percent off of their ticket.

we have you in studio. Somehow we'll make it work. We'll talk about side games the fallout of that. We can also go into your survival expertise, because you have so much there. I mean I actually just went to one of your survival conferences or expo. Yeah, even better, I went to your expo. It was amazing. It was so cool. We can talk survival, we can talk psy ops. I think that would be I know there's somebody listening that would hear I say syops and be like, why didn't you guys talk about that?

International dot Com. That is the biggest one. That is the one that we're using to change the world and really bring even more light to this world with the amazing light bringers that we have that are that are coming so like yourself.

look forward to seeing you there. We're definitely gonna hang We're I mean, count me in you dude, I'm so excited. So thanks for.