157: What If? Vol. 15

Weird things happened in the weird Weird Weird. Yo, you wanted to do a sudden start there. Here we are what upisode? We are one fifty four correct, dang dude, here we are and we are here. We get popping. We getting it popping. Got a special guest tonight, Chris Bledsoe Junior in the house, and we are going to be doing what if and just kicking it back and having fun with it. Yeah, but let's talk a little bit about kind of what we've been up to. Man,

we are almost done with the house. How close is it? Like, literally next week? How close is it? We're getting very close. Yeah, we're like, yeah, just days away. Yeah, it's been crazy going on week ten. It's it's just been honestly a lot. It's been insane, the whole house on most inside. Anyway. You were just saying before we started that you love it. Yeah, Yeah, it's been great. It's been awesome away from the you know, the normal job, the

normal atmosphere, away from Fettville, hanging out with my boys. Yeah yeah, my brother's house. It's awesome. Yeah. I know, one day y'all are going to look You're going to look back and just be like that was the coolest, like there was such a special it's dope smooth. Yeah, it's been great. Yeah, it's been stressful at times, like you know, a lot of work to do, a lot of money, spent

a lot of time, a lot of things. And at the end of the day though, like already in the tenth week, looking back on the final few days of work, it's like, man, this, this is never gonna happen again, you know, That's what That's what I'm saying. It's like it's special, little pocket of time, like y'all are. Yeah,

y'all will look back on this finally. Yeah. I moved in here four weeks ago this Friday, and it was a construction site with plywood floors all throughout the house and most of the sheet rock was exposed in many rooms and we only had one bathroom in the whole house and one shower, and it was literally a construction site. And now it's like we're doing the finishing touches. It's like, wow, it's a house. It's crazy. We

got a kitchen and amenities and it's cool. It's been looking like a complete different place now too, Like it's wild how different it looks Yeah, there's one room that looks the same. Yeah, yep, that's right. But it's been insane. It's been uh, definitely a time to remember. And you know, Junior was telling me like, man, you know, I want to come on again, and I just thought it would be such a perfect opportunity to have you on twice while you were here, you know.

So let's let's get into freaking what ifs and who wants to start? You want to go? Let's let all right, let's let I mean, I'll start if you want me to. You want me to? Sure, all right, give me give me that golden jar over there. Yo, here, you haven't done one of these with us, right, Yeah, let's Jeremy did. Jeremy and Emily did one. Okay, now we're we're completing the trifecta. Yeah, uh okay, here we go. Ready, we're starting with a heavy hitter. Boys, this is a real heavy hitter.

Okay, just prepare yourself. Oh my gosh, what you'll know? You'll know nothing? Suspense? All right? Ready? What if Jesus wore crocs? Wait? What color crocks? And would he wear croc charms? And I'm just gonna add what would the charms be Yeah, I was gonna speculate on that. This is submitted by Coreymu, who was at the Azelia Fest We got to meet you. Love you, Corey. You're awesome. Shout out Corey, big shout out. Thanks for the submission. Very nice the

heavy hitter. I don't know how we're going to address this. This is a sensitive topic, you know. I honestly feel like, dude, like, if Jesus was wearing crocs, it would definitely be one of the collabse Oh okay, yeah, I do. I would think it would be like the brown ones Warren Smith wear a shout out a Warren like, I'll wear them through anything, through the swamp and the desert, up a mountain, like the part leather ones. Yeah, part leather like they're they're the like

the hiking Yeah, he has like outdoorsman crocs. Yeah, that's around, And that is the type of the word. That's the type that Jesus would He's got to get around and spread the word. That's that's definitely an interesting take, man. I was thinking he'd be more along the lines of like one of the collabs, or maybe he'd be wearing like one of the black ones with like the studded spikes on him. He would have like little two little hands that are prays. Yeah, yeah, little prank hands, gibbets.

Maybe like a loaf of bread, you know, like the bread and the wine. Oh that's perfect. Oh, so that he could turn the wine. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, dude. It would be a it would be a passion of the Christ collab that he would wear. Definitely be a cross on there. Yoh, come on, too easy. You just got her hands and have the stigmata. Yeah, it would come with like real flowing blood out of it. That'd be sick. Yeah. But what about the color man it's killing Oh dude. No, they would

be made out of just straight burr lap. Really, that was imagining brown brown. Yeah, yeah, they'd be brown like burr lap. We're talking about a thousand years ago, two thousand years ago, yeah, even longer. No, No, I could see the vision. But for some reason, I just think the black with the stud of spikes. Why exactly, I don't know. I just feel like it just it just calls to me. Just Christ superstar, right, Yeah, he's like a star bro.

I don't know why, but I kind of feel like black with studded spikes, seems like satan. That's what Jesus. When you say it like that, it does kind of scare me a little bit Gothic exactly. That's what I was literally just about to say. But how is Jesus not Gothic? Talking about Jesus Christ? Jesus, You just you just can't see what I see. Yeah, well you need to back up your claim. Yeah, okay, to let make us see your vision, because right now we're like

thinking about like Domin because they laid him on spike. I shouldn't even be saying things like this. I feel terrible saying they laid him on spikes. But they but they weren't like pitch black spikes like goth like. He didn't have like chains and stuff like. No, that that's true. Man. I just I can't explain a rhyme or reason why it came to me. And you know, maybe I'm I will be the first to admit that maybe I was wrong. You think Jesus was in hot topic getting like some spiky

black crocsys. That's fashionable, That's what I'm saying. My whole thing it was he'd be fashionable. Yeah, he'd be ahead of the crowd, the crowd right right, because he was a trendsetter and influencer. Jesus Christ was an influencer. It was. It was very influential, and he influenced me. Yeah, well, I don't see you wearing spiky black crocks though, Hey, but I do be wearing crocs, that's true. I don't wear crocs at all, No, never, I just got my first pair like

this past Christmas. You know, I kind of like them people all the time. These are croc flip flops. See. I don't think he'd wear crocs. I think cruks are the devil's work. Honestly though. If Jesus were wearing crocs, it would probably be those. That's what he wore, stuff like that, like my Chaco's. Yeah, like that's stock. Like sandals. They make sandal crocks. Those are those. I think they used to call those Jesus sandals. Wait, no, that's a good point.

He would wear sandal crocks. Those are birkenstocks. These are not birkenstocks, Jesus. Maybe Jesus sandals are birkenstocks. Oh wait, they have crocs, they have like sandal crocs. They got shoes apparently that. I know. They got shoes, that's what they make. Are you saying, do they have sandals? Yeah? I got a pair with straps, yeah, and black spikes. I don't know about the spikes, but maybe custom I'm going to buy Croc stock right now. You think preparation for this episode to drop,

you think we're gonna bump their stock? Oh yeah, bottom line, I like Crocs. I've had like five pairs of my life shoes and sandals and clogs. And I mean, what kind of celebrity endorsement, Like you're talking Jesus Jesus. Yeah, that's true, that's fair profit. It's probably the most profound question we've ever seen on this bit. He's got them temper pedic shoes with the soles like he's doing a lot of walking, so he ain't wearing flip flops in twenty twenty four. That's right. Way he's got.

He's got them freaking He got the doctor shoals. Yeah. He got the cloud phone. Yeah, you know, the cloud foam and the Adida shoes. Yeah, because walking on clouds, right, Yeah, I feel it. I feel Oh got the water shoes. Oh oh, he was baptized on the water walking on that too. Yeah, I forgot about that part. I did forget about that miracle. Now I'm picturing Jesus walking on water with spiky black crocs on it ripped, shredded with natty lights. It

fits, bro. I love it. Wow, what a fantastic question, full time Alex rich Jesus his crocs on. I mean, it's no doubt he was. Yeah, he was shredded for sure. We've seen, we've seen. Yeah, everybody back then was shredded. Everybody. And he was a carpenter. Yeah he's oh you know youre shredded. Oh my god, dude. He was in great shape. He's hammering wood. All his forearms were bulging, oh bulging. He was all right, next question, All right, let's do the other jar. Hold on one second, okay,

cool. Honestly I wish I look like Jesus from a thousand years ago. Yeah. I think that's like the perfect with the long hair falling out. Same fuck. I agree, I hate it. I don't give anything that we don't know if his was just saying anything. All right, Now, that was our lovely Patreon jar. Thank you, Corey. She is one of our patrons. Now I'm gonna pull from the public jar the everyday average American lovely Yes, as a listener right right, every accolade I can think

of all American. That is so true, and I'm ashamed of it. I didn't realize that I actually talked to one today that it's not American. Really. Yeah, he works for PlayStation in the UK. Shout out to him. Shout out to him. I'm going to say, that's the whole name. Yeah, shout out Mark. You're my dude, appreciate everything you do. He's also a man. Yeah, he's awesome. What that's so sick? It works for place PlayStation, Bro, that is so sick.

Awesome, dude, that's badass. Junior and I played some hell Divers with him. He's a really wonderful guy. Bro. I met him in your Minecraft server. No way, I swear to you, Bro. The first time I ever met him, I was like walking through a freaking cave and Minecraft, Yeah, gathering resources. Wait, what's his discord handle. I don't know if that's actually true, but I think it's his last name. So yeah, yeah, I'm not going to say because he's probably on the

new season. By the way, that's one of the perks of our Patreon, we have a Minecraft server going on. It is back up, back up season two. It's freaking awesome. We're going to try to keep this one up permanent. Oh yeah, that's the goal. Yeah, keep it up forever, Season two, Infinity, oh and beyond. Nick did illuminate a wonderful point. We do have so many amazing listeners around the world who are international, and I want to thank everybody around the world who listens to

our show. Thank you so much. Thank you. We appreciate it, really, we do. All right now in our regular jar what if Jesus was an es scene and traveled to India, Tibetan, Egypt. Uh, the tag is awakened research on Twitter. That's such a great question. But what's happening another Jesus one? Yeah, what the heck is going on? He put miles on them crocs? Yes he did. He traveled the crocs. Okay, you gotta get you gotta stay with it. Like the whole

first one was about the crocs. He's got the spiky black crocs and he's walking where to, uh, to Tibet, India and Egypt. Oh, so he's making it, making the rounds, yeah, putting holes in them, and well they already have holes in them. Oh, I've been on the bottom. Oh that's no good, that's no bueno you put. I've worn a pair till they had holes on. I burn a tread. I've

got a real question. I've never owned a pair of crocks. Do you think if you put a hole in a pair of crocks you could essentially like kind of melt them back together. No, you think you can put a little bit of crock over a fire and kind of like weld it. No, weld it. You don't think you might need more plastic or whatever it's made out of that you might need, and then you could steal it up.

You ever you ever seen a pair They're very thick, dude. For you to burn or you know, tear a hole through a pair of crocs, it's gotta go like an inch man like. You can't. You'd be taking like a large part of the crocs to weld them together. So I think you could sacrifice a strap, Yes, but you could. That's why they got a little repair kit hanging off the back. Yeah, of course you would talk about sacrifice when we're talking about Jesus. Do you think a

tire patch kid is a sacrifice is a sacrificial tool. I'm just saying, Man, if the shoe fits, okay, if the crop fits, okay, what if Jesus walked around these places? Yeah, that was the question to India, Tibetan, Egypt. We've done, Mike. I'm pretty sure we've done episodes on that before. I can't remember which episodes off top of my head, but I know we've definitely talked about that. But why not?

It's a great question, I do think. So. There was a document in Russia found in the eighteen hundreds, I believe, that talked about Saint Issa checking into like monasteries in Tibet, like like actually records of St Issa, right, And the way that the Tibetan monks described this Saint Issa was that he was an Israelite who basically was performing miracles. Yeah right, right? Yeah? Did we talked about that on the scenes episode? Is

that what it was? I think you're right, yeah, yeah, you know, it reminds me of Tear, the Norse god, and especially how they talked about him in God of War. Did you play the new God of War games? You didn't, Chris Sadly, Chris, I played the last one, like, not the last one, but the one before three, gott War three. I mean, they're all so crazy gazing the next one, we're playing the Child No no, no, that's that's the newer ones. Oh okay, so you played you played the one in twenty eighteen.

You didn't play Ragnarok with the no no no. You played the one where he has a son. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Okay, yeah, yeah he has yes, Yeah, you figure out puzzles and stuff. I did play all the old ones as well. Yeah, God, like you know, yeah, I played them to death, dude,

I love them well. In the new one. In the two newest ones, So one of the ones that you played, they talk about tear a Lot, who is the Norse, the Nordic god of war, and you find out, like through playing the games that he was like a sage who traveled the planet and went to every like all these different cultures and gathered artifacts from all these different cultures, locked them up in this huge vault. You basically find out that he was on this like pilgrimage of like like mystical knowledge

like Jesus. Yeah. Yeah, it's very and they even kind of like pose it that way a little bit in the game, like they kind of make him and then when you finally see him in Ragnarok, he kind of looks like Jesus. Yeah, he does have long hair. Yeah, and like the long face tier t y r Tear he modeled after like a real deity or yeah, yeah, it's a real Norse god, because you know, the god of war games, the god of war games. They're all real, like mythological gods. But it's just now he's not in the Greek

pantheon anymore. He's in the Norse pantheon. So I played four in the New Ones five pretty much pretty much. Yeah, yeah, it's been a while since I've been in that, you know, yeah, new Baby and all. It's been kind of hard to keep for sure. For sure some of the best games ever made. That was like game of the year over what was the wild Western game called Red Dead two? It beat Red Dead Redemption. Hold on now, alex ha, Well, yeah, I threw

a boo too, because Red Red Red Dead was great. But you ain't played Ragnarok. I know, Bud, it's good, buddy, it's good. It's well, I maybe I'm biased. Those are show of my favorite games. You cried about it. I believe it. No, I'm serious. Did you shed a tear to Ragnarok? Because I'm pretty sure. I'm so pretty sure. I cried to Red Dead remotion, and I think that carries a lot of weight. Oh, bro, I cried. I cried in twenty Eighteens Got a War, and I cried during Ragnarok. Those games

are very emotional, like, very very emotional. But I know what you're talking about too. Did you beat Red Dead two? Oh? Yeah, I never beat the last Okay, then I won't spoil it, but but I mean, fantastic game. It also was very emotional like towards the end. Amazing story too. Yeah, it's amazing anyway. It just reminded me

of that. Like so, I mean, we talked about Jesus possibly being anes scene in the Escenes episode, which is like this, well, give them a quick rundown of Theescenes. The scenes were like in the first century, there were four different types of Jews, and it was like the Essecenes, which was the more mystical ascetic tribe that had secret rights and initiations and

a lot more advanced spiritual practices. Not much as written about them in history but what is written is very interesting, and we did, like he said, we did an entire episode on it. There were the Pharisees and the Sadducees, which were like the priestly class, like any any part of the Bible where you read about them talking to like the ones who were trying to, you know, revile Jesus and turn them over to the authorities. They

were like the Pharisees or the Sadducees. And then you had the zealous, which were like a warlike they were very oppositional to Rome taking over Israel, and they like went to war with them. They were very zealous and radical and wanted to fight. And I got a question interrupt, But if when Jesus died, you said, the Pharisees saw him and killed him. They hung him in the Sadducees, who were what was the group that wrote the

Bible after his death? Like was it the same crowd? It's not that there was like a group that wrote the Bible, but it's just different authors that are not the name of the original person typically that was written. It's usually people many years after. It was just different authors and it was pieced together. And also there were hundreds of books, and most of them were taken out and we were left with like what sixty sixty six sixty six and

the Vatican. There's thousands of different texts that know about. But I thought it came from that same region, Like those were the people who later down the road wrote the Bible or placed it together. Yeah, I mean, which is kind of kind of true. That's kind of true. Like the whole meeting with the Emperor Constantine. Yeah, they kind of came together and decided what would be in the Bible, the Nicee convention, Yeah, what would be believed, what would be legal, what the doctrine would be.

Yeah, that's true. What if? Yeah, they like decided that. There was multiple councils over time, over hundreds of years, where the emperors and the popes would get together and they'd be like, no, this is the doctrine, this is what we believe. Kill anybody who doesn't believe in this. Yeah. But I do to answer the question, I do believe it's true. I do believe Jesus was anes scene. I think there's plenty of evidence. I think it's very clear that it has been suppressed and wiped

from history. We also have evidence like the knag Habandi scrolls being found in the fifties and literal clay pots in the desert in Egypt. We have like the Dead Sea scrolls being on Earth and they corroborate what was written about the seas in the ancient past. And yeah, I mean I think it's true. I think it's very profound, and I think it's something that's been like suppressed all this time. Yeah. I tend to think so too. That's

crazy. Side note, how often do you guys actually think about the Roman Empire? Because this is right, it's like a thing. I mean, not all the time, but I sometimes, like if you had to, if you had to give an approximation, sometimes I find myself comparing things to like they did this, and you know, we do the Like just the other day we were talking about the Roman circus, yeah, and entertainment.

You know. Yeah, no, so we do here and there. But like the mean would suggest not every day, right, right, right, right? Yeah, no, not by a long shot. I've asked people, and surprisingly I've had like a decent number of people be like, oh, like once a week, Like once, I'm like, are you thinking about the Roman become history professor but like way more people than you would think. Yeah, I mean I'd put myself in the five to seven times per week, five to seven park. That's insane. This is hey, you

know what he is at. His family's a talent. Mottl airplanes, magic the gathering. Definitely not history. I mean I don't. I'm not saying I spend ten minutes every time, but not nine and a half. I mean I think about it quite often. If it's thirty seconds, yeah, I'm counting a thirty second thought about the Roman Oh yeah, it counts. It does count. Even if it just pops into your mind, it counts.

I can't give you a number. I can't say if it's every week or you know, yeah, I don't sit around and think about, like, man, how freaking awesome was the Roman Empire? I just mean how often it just pops into your I think of the opposite, like when I think of the state of the world today, I'm like, oh my god, it's like mirroring the fall of the Roman Empire. I'm not sitting around thinking about the Roman Empire. But that still counts. I mean yeah,

not every week for sure, not every day. It's like occasionally for me, this might sound this might make me sound really dumb, but like for me, it's like maybe once every three or four months, like yeah, yeah, I feel like I'd never think about I wouldn't say you're dumb. I mean because if you were, then I'd probably be dumb because I'm not thinking of it every day either. It's just like it just doesn't I don't know. It's kind of shocking to me how much people are thinking about it.

Is you don't, right, I mean, you don't ever think about just like running water and aqueducts and an aqueducts. So many men and all that stuff is awesome plumbing back in the day. That's it's pretty freaking cool. It's amazing. Why are so many men obsessed with the Romans? That's That's what I'm saying. I'm not sitting there thinking like, oh wow, aqueducts came from wrong exactly. Yeah. Yeah, No, I'm just not though I have thought about it. Sure. Matter of fact, I didn't

even know that. Yeah, and I'll claim that right here, I'm claiming that I didn't know. See, I'm more excited that I was able to teach you something today. Yeah. Now I feel like I might think more about the Roman empirement seat. Okay, there you go. You're converting me, all right, new favorite episode. He's also a Roman Catholic or grew up or whatever? Are you a Roman Catholic? Is there a difference between Catholic and Roman Catholic? You're asking the wrong guy, Yeah, it is,

it really is. What's your middle name? I think about Italy every day? Well, without a doubt, I think about Italy a lot. But then that that like that, that is a downhill street to Rome, like every time, for sure, for sure. So you dodged the question though. What's your middle name? Campana? Oh yeah, that's right. I went to the the coliseum and I was bummed and there was no one fighting in there. I'm bummed. They don't do anything with it anymore,

Like what a coolest spot play? Yeah, plays plays about fight. They don't even do plays in there. No fake fighting? Sure ww they do do that though, or nothing at all? No nothing museum. I feel like there's something they could do with it, but also it's like it's a priceless piece of history. White damage. That's it, you know, That's exactly it's because it's a price preserve the Amphitheater in Greece, like the most

impressive like amphitheater ever made. I've heard it's the best acoustics in the world. Is you can stand at the bottom on like the stage and someone could stand all the way at the top and just whisper and they could hear each other because it's it's built on a slope that that like sends the acoustics perfectly thousands of years because they didn't have a microphone technology right, right, so they had to get the whispers to travel ever to Why don't, yeah,

people build stuff like that anymore because we have so much building codes. We have building codes and Osha Osha is the problem. Well, that's not the problem. That's that's a small part of the problem. There's a bigger problem than that, buddy. They build some pretty cool corporates and stuff, but not like back in the day. There's no soul in architecture anymore. Lost. Yeah, then that leads me to think about the Romans. I'm being

perfectly honest here. I think I drive Greeks, I drive around and I think about these things. Why is everything so ugly? Why is everything gray? And then I think about ancient times and nice architecture and Marvel columns. I will admit, man, like I probably think about the Roman Empire more than I give credit for because it's like anytime I'm thinking about, like, you know, biblical times, I mean they were invaded, they were occupied

by Rome. You know, it's like I'm not like directly trying to sit around and think about the Roman Empire, but it probably does come up a lot in my study and my thought processes. Like I wouldn't say every day like the meme, but probably a lot, honestly. Three, How dare you? I don't think about it much? That was a fun question. Yeah, got us think about the Roman Empire? Yeah, Chris, your turn? Oh wow, great? I love the little it will be?

Did I did I read the handle for that one? I did the awakened research? Yeah? Yes you did, sir? All right? Who wrote this? I should say it? I wrote it? Okay? It the handwriting? It's hard. What if the hockey the hockey? Pokey o, my god, man, Really is what it's all about? Is that your

wife's submission? It is? It is? It is? Oh my god, I got it spoiled for me. That is absolutely Thank you, Ny, Thank you Jenny, I just can't believe that we actually got to it after I just hyped her up. We might never pull it, and I would pull it. That's amazing. Shout out to my wife, shout out. This is her question, and honestly I'm about it. But is it? Is it? What it's all? You do? The hokey pokey brow

Do you want to see you turn it around? Right footing, you put your right foot out, you put your right foot in, take it all about. You do the hockey pokey and you turn yourself around. That's what it's all. I just I feel like I cannot sit here and try to like justify some deep method to the pull another one that's gonna move on from there, the hocus pocus. It's a conspiracy. Why did they skip over the hokey pokey? What's about the other jar? One of those patreons is

decoratively? Oh you know this is this is good handwriting. What if the sun is the light we see when we die and we enter back into it's it's it as light? Oh, we enter into the shaka haka ra ra. Also, this is my handwriting. Actually it looks more like Niggs. Is this your handwriting? His mind Chris, that's the first time that anyone has ever said that my handwriting looks good. Well, I'm just good. Okay, you can read it. I'm just kidding. It's better than look

at it looks terrible for the viewer. That is scratch, illegible. It's completely chicken chicken chicken scratch. Yes, please, this is this is amazing because I'm so fascinated by the name. What if the sun is the light we see when we die and we enter back into it as light? Chaka Chaka ra Rah, that's the name. Yeah, they're in discord, they're in Discord. I love that name, dude. I could say that all day. Yeah, I see there all the time. Yeah, Choco chocolate

Chuck Chuck Rara. I don't know. I mean, how how can we know, right, how can we prove that? What if the sun was the light that you see when we die? Well, that is a thing, right, like everybody's it's always see the light? Yeah, what's up with that? That could be there's always this talking about the sun is God's light? Right. Well, I was gonna say, like when you close your eyes at the beach and you can still see the sun through your eyelids

kind of thing. Well, yeah, uh uh back in Rome. No, I just mean like an all light comes from the sun kind of thing. Yeah, No, that's that's true. You know back when we were younger. Well, I guess we were all younger, that's just how it works. But we had we had this aunt who was our grandmother's sister. And I'm talking about Aunt Margaret, and she was like in her eighties at the time, definitely nearing the end and and and really like frail and was

just not doing what as a doll. She was a great she was wonderful. She was very sweet and just wonderful to us. But our granny's sister. Yeah, but towards the end, she slipped into a coma. And Mom has always told me, you know about this, right, she slipped

into a coma and she eventually woke up from the coma. And she told my grandmother that when she was in the coma, she saw a vision of her like on the other side, and she was at a river, and I want to say she was talking to somebody or something, but she was like instructed, like don't cross the river. It's not time for you to go yet. You have to help your daughter. So she didn't cross the river, and she eventually woke up from the coma and she looked a little

so like I do remember hearing this, but not in detail. I have I have countless other yeah, countless other near death stories of people who don't see a light, but they see something completely different. Our grandfather have something. Yes, I was about to tell that it's like a boat, right, yeah, yeah, we talked about that recently. He was on a boat and he you know, he didn't know it at the time, but that's you know how the Egyptian after life is described, and yeah, that's

right across the river. Yeah, and he was just on a boat. And I could have sworn Dad, note, would you know be able to tell it better? I wasn't there, but I could have sworn he said he saw other people on the boat and then he woke up. He's like, I was on a boat. I was going to the other side. Another story, our cousin Stephanie, when she was about three or four years old, she made it was her right. I have a thought, why

would it be different for different people? Like it's personalized, right, that's interesting. The light. Papa Ted loved boats, right, he was on a boat all the time. Maybe that's why it's personalized. That is fascinating. It's almost like it's like based on the spirit of the person, right, you know, it's like it's like what compels them or what I didn't even think about it, or what would comfort them, or what would make

since typically comfort something like that. It is I've thought about the same things. Makes me think about how you have entities appearing in different centuries as what makes people the most comfortable. Yes, yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Like they they kind of like take different shapes depending on what I can tell you. They don't always make people feel comfortable. That's fair enough. I apologize. That's that's not what I was trying to guess. That's

okay, you can say that first, put that out there. That's fair enough. Yeah. I think you're on the scriptures in the Bible where people are freaking out, you know, oh, be not afraid. Yeah, dude, before I'm an angel of the Lord or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Most of the time that angels are like seen in the Bible, the person seeing them as like horrified, they fall to the ground in

terror. Yeah, and the angel always says be not afraid, like get up because it's scary looking, right, it doesn't look normal, right. Also, reports of the UFO phenomenon have changed over the last one hundred years or even longer one hundred hundred fifty years. It started off as like airships, I believe in the eighteen hundreds, like like big blimps you know that, walloons yeah right, but yeah, yeah, and at one point they

were boomerangs. I mean, the the way people describe seeing UFOs has even changed, yeah, like from a chariot of fire to blimp yeah yeah, to an orb of light, you know. And I do feel like the spirit world, the entities, the beings whatever, they obviously they could take whatever form they want. It is strange to think, though, like throughout time, how they've changed their appearance, you know, for us, for

us to react to. I don't know. But there are like really old paintings of like flaming like chariot wheels in the sky, like old flaming chariot wheels, right, So it's that, you know what I'm saying. So it's like I think I think they show up in a context w within a wheel, right, right, Yeah, isn't that in the Bible. Yeah, will Ezekiel, it's this metal spinning wheel within a wheel, and it's

on fire. And they go to describe this like the elements of it, Like I said, not elements like the periodic table, but elements like the the metals and the gems that it's made of. And it's on fire and these creatures stand out of it and their angels and they're like terrifying, and it performs miracles and stuff. But yeah, no, that is very interesting. It's pretty cool. Do you think we do you think our soul? Like, what do you think about the idea of our soul going into the

sun when we pass? I don't discount it, man, I really don't. And obviously who knows obviously, right, you know, it's just kind of like right, just pondering it, but it is. I think it's very interesting. The Rosicrucians talk about that, they talk about that's what really got me very interested in them is the deeper you get. You see that they look at the planets as like realms, like you you graduate up to higher realms as you master your incarnations. And Earth is is I mean,

I don't know how they say it. My take on it is that it's kind of like a middle realm, you know, oh like mid guard mid guard. Right, what if? What if that's why we don't see quote unquote life on other planets because they're full of spirits. Right, Yeah, you can't even get there if the whole normally, yeah, like the whole realm theory, like if climbing some sort of like proverbial ladder or seven layers of Heaven. Yeah, seventh Heaven, remember that. I never watched it.

I haven't seen it, but we watched in my house for some reason, like when we were little, Like my parents would pretty much only allow seventh Heaven and heaven the number seven. Yeah, and was it little House on the prairie no way, Yeah, it was literally like so boring. This is when I was real little. Yeah, that was a our mom didn't watching a lot of crazy stuff either, though. Yeah. I would sneak things. Oh we had a Pokemon thing too, way, Yeah I

did us. I'd go to my grandma's house and watch stuff over there. I remember watching the first episode of Pokemon and Mema saying it was demonic. Yeah, my parents did this. I'm always worried now, Like with Teddy in his most recent birthday, I was worried the whole time because he got tons of Pokemon stuff. I was worried the whole time Grandma would be judging us and some of the other family members because I'm letting my child, my

four year old child, look at Pokemon plushy's. I doubt they even remember that. Man, you know, maybe I don't know. It's so like innocent, cute. It's cute, little It doesn't mean anything by it. Are you kidding me? Yeah, he's like, oh, cute little animals. That's It's so innocent, but it has that effect on me though even thirty five, thirty years later, I'm still thinking about it. Just you know, it's out of respect. I guess I'm like that for her.

Yeah, for mem well that's sweet. You know that you're like thinking about out how she thinks about it. But ultimately you are right. I mean, it's so innocent, there's nothing wrong with it. It's cute. Yeah, it ain't yu gi oh where they're like summoning demons and calling gods from another realm, and like at one point, I think someone like pulls a

gun on somebody. It's it's different, Bro's different pulling wizards and sorcerers out of demonic pots and stuff like Egyptian auncs, like summoning, like exodia. He's chained in this other dimension, being freaking tormented. Dude. I was allowed to have cards. Oh that makes sense. My parents were like, no, Pokemon, you can have cards though, but you know why, because the pastors were like, it's to pock the monsters. They didn't know about Yuki. Oh no, it was too under the radar and that one

on. Yeah, dude, digimon is way back, dude, I was. That was a fun question. We're on this one. Yeah, my turn ready for it is see it, buddy, get it out of there. I'm trying. Here we go. Oh this is a long one. Uh uh. This is from Alexis Underscore. May thank you so much for submitting this wonderful question with lovely handwriting, if I may say, lovely lovely who wrote that all you? Uh no, it doesn't look maybe it maybe

because it's kind of it's kind of chicken scratchy. I have that similar handwriting too. Is terrible? All right? What if babies slash children are actually smarter than most adults, but they just don't know how to use or communicate this in the way society teaches us to understand. There there's something to this obviously, it's like you can't like, how do you quantify like small that would explain why they soil their diapers? Wait wait wait wait, it's think

about it. It's less effort. They just don't bothered him. I think they're smarter than like some of us think, maybe not smarter than instinctually, Yeah, I think they can definitely be like more intuitive, right, like for sure, you know, for sure they look at you and yeah, I wonder about that. Yeah, there's there's some like weird stuff about like you know, the whole there's a whole legend about like Einstein didn't speak until he was like four, but he when he finally did speak, he spoke

like fluently and full sentences and and stuff like that. Like really, I've never heard that. Yeah. Crazy, And oddly, it's not just like some weird legend phenomenon, because I actually have a coworker who has a five year old four year old and his four year old still doesn't talk. But he's like, dude, she's she's smart, she knows exactly what she's doing. She right, she communicates to us every like, you know, so there's something kind of strange to that. There could be I'll hit you with

one hit me. What if the closer that you are to the afterlife, whether it be just being born or about to die, the more spiritually in tunes you are, therefore like you could go through spirit you could say, spiritually smarter or more advanced too. And maybies are closer to that afterlife than we are, right right, it's like a horsesh just came from there kind of No, absolutely, you know, their souls just were just born. So maybe they are, you know, are in tune and we lose it

because we're too like consumed with the world. That's why they cry when they get here. Yeah, they're like, ah, ship, think about it. You're nice and warm and like dark and taken care of. You don't have to worry about nothing. And then you're just in a bright room it's cold as ship people. Yeah, they're like his ankle and then they start cutting you up. If you're a boy, it just starts slicing dice. Oh my god, don't get me start this torture. Being born, bro,

your head is crushed into a circle. If you're me, your head is grabbed with like salad tongs. Oh my god. Yeah, my head was longer than my body. I was also two months I was two months premature. You're a conehead, I was, dude, I do you want to know something? I ship you? Not my dad's first words to me, where I can buy you some hats? Son. Good for him. That is something your dad would say. You did not like him already, and that is someone I have yet to have on the show. I'm working

on it. Let's keep working, man over time. It's like I'm chipping away to the mountain. Yeah, keep chipping. You're like Henry, I just edited that episode. None of y'all know about my homie John Henry. You know John Henry. Derek knows John Henry. Who is John Henry? Remember he's the guy we talked about in the episode Giant. No, that's different. You had to pick axe and they were like, yeah, I had to raise a machine through a mountain. Yeah, They're like, I

bet our modern machine could go through the mountain faster than you. And he beat the machine and then he dies of exhaustion. I'm being one hundred percent honest. I just said that because I just listened to you say that same thing. Yeah, we gotta get you down on bro. But I do kind of like see what you're saying, man, I think I think there is something to that, like older people in their life and then like really young you know, up to toddler maybe even children. They they're they're they're

closer to to maybe the spirit world. I mean, obviously, again it's like, how can we prove this? But it makes sense. I've a ton of stories of like older people being on their deathbeds and like seeing things in the room, like seeing like spirits and like even communicating with like like spirits in the room and stuff. And children. Yeah, yeah, you see children like look off and you're like, what are they looking at? I was gonna say this earlier that did he Yeah, there were times he

did stuff like that. Yeah, we have videos of Ted. I had one day I was walking down the hall and we have a mirror at the end of the hall, and like my room is to the right and all, and the whole time maybe he was waving at me and him, but he was like waving at the wall and at the mirror and all, and I was like, it didn't feel like he was waving at me or himself. I thought he was seeing somebody else around. WHOA, that's weird. And then like Papa ted his photo. He would be in Dad's room like

talking. He would say right now, Papa. Oh yeah, when Teddy was like one years old. Yeah, when he was looking at it and saying Papa, Papa. He did stuff like that. Yeah. No. We had a video of him one time when he was in mom and Dad's and he was looking up in the corner of the room and he was freaked out and he would like point at it and this. They look up and they're like, what's there. He was like obviously like he's seeing something in

the corner and he was really freaked. He does that about our closet door. I mean, maybe he's just a scared little kid. But we have closet doors in our bedroom that are kind of adjacent to the bed and you can see them and into the claus a little bit when you're laying in the bed, and if that closet door is not shut, he is freaking out. He's probably just scared. A few weeks ago, you were telling me that one of your doors shut itself, and Teddy said he saw somebody shoulder.

Yeah, dude, Yeah, me and me and Jessica were sitting at our dining room table, which we have it in the den right now instead of our dining room because we've all been sitting there playing magic and me I think me and Jessica were playing some magic the gathering and Teddy saw something he claims there was to shut the door. The door just all of a sudden moved on its own, and he said something was in that freaking bathroom. Indeed, yes, yeah, I mean it's one thing if the door shuts.

But then Teddy saying something saw something shut that, that's what he said. I I couldn't see anything. I mean, we looked, and this is kind of exactly what we're talking about about that dude. I was going to tell this story earlier when we were talking about the near death experiences our cousin Stephanie. When she was like three or four, she was at a

baseball game. Shout out Stephanie, shout Stephanie. Yeah. Anyway, so she was at a baseball game and I believe she choked on a piece of popcorn, I remember, and she basically was like dying, you know, and obviously they revived her I mean she's alive today. This was thirty plus years ago. But when they revived her and she was like literally near death. She got home and she saw pictures of her grandfather who she had never

met, and she started saying like, oh, that's that's grandpa. He was there at the ballgame, at the ballgame when she was like dying on the piece of popcorn, and that she was a toddler. Never knew who he was. It's somebody that was, you know, she never met him, and she was like, that's grandpa. He was at the ball game. He was talking to me whatever she said. I mean, I don't overbade him, but something to that effect. This was if like, yeah, yeah, it wasn't good. Yeah. I think I tend to believe

that whole thing. Like little kids and to like really older people like they are they see maybe there's something there. I think there might be like smarter, I don't know, but like more in tune to something. Yeah right, Yeah, honestly, I think they're definitely smarter than we think too. And animals, oh yeah, you know, for sure, they're just mindless freaking drones to do what you are telling them to do, like a tool

that's how our grandfather was us. They're hunting dogs. They're meant for hunting. That's how the old timers were. And you're just dumb. They have no soul and all it does is hunts, right. But I think they're far smarter than we think. Absolutely they are. They have memories like a great man, great memory. They you know, they communicate with one another. They they do feel things. I just like them. Maybe they do have a soul, I think so. Yeah. I'll tell you. My

dog is smart as ship. Yeah. I like her lashes fleek, lashes on fleek. Yeah, she's got something. I saw her the other day. Alex invited me over on Sunday and we swim in the pool and called Juno and she's got long hair right now and her lashes are like you know, so it's just dog. Oh cool, it's dog named after that old alien video game. We used to play with it. Yeah, Jeff's Gemini, Yeah, Jeff, yeah, Yeah, we were big on that. Dude. Yeah, o G Split screen Nintendo sixty four, Dude, when

you aimed with the sea buttons is awesome. You remember that one? Yes, it was the best. Yeah, I love that that was That's oddly like one of the most nostalgic in sixty four games, right, but you always hear about like Ockerina of time to bring that one back? Yeah, yeah, that one you fight the bugs? Yeah, oh Starship Troopers. Dude. Also, how are we gonna just let this slide under the radar? His dog's Roman? What right? Yeah? The Roman goddess of love,

fertility, and marriage. And it was one hundred on purpose. That's really cool, dude. It's a beautiful name, it's a beautiful choice. It's a beautiful dog. And then it gets crazier. Her my dog is in love with her grandfather, Olivia's father, and vice versa, like he loves this dog. Well, he shows up one day like, yeah, y'all named her after my black dog Juno. And we're like, what are you talking about? And he's like, no, you you guys knew I

had a black dog named Juna, but this was Juno like Alaska. And we're like not at all, none of us, both of us had no clue, and we just went we got this black dog because I had a dream about a black dog and named it Juno. And he's like, yeah, that was my favorite dog I've ever had. And it was a black clad. Yeah. I never told you guys that. Yeah. Wow. Also a beautiful name Juno like spelled like Alaska. That's that's really pretty. I felt like Alaska, like the Alaskan city. Come on, man,

come on man, you know what I mean? How is it spelled j e A No? I put myself on. I'm looking at thought e a U right, X X We're done. That is not pretty anymore. That is ugly. That's cool. The X nice. It's my ex I think. So it's like, no, it's not j U n e a U exactly what I said. I'm sorry, dog, but how is that relating in Alaska? Tho us it's a city in Alaska. I was confused geography. I was confused. I was like, it's just the same. It's

not the count. Okay, I didn't know that was the city in Alaska. That's why I said, spelled like Alaska. That's gotcha what I was getting at. Okay, I like it. Jenny and I are talking about going to Alaska next because she she grew up there. Partially, she claims is like the most beautiful place she's ever seen. So if you count me saying, my dog's name as thinking about Rome. Then it's like multiple times

a day, all day, constantly. It's honestly it is. I love that dog so much, the best, beautiful, so much, such a good dog. Oh this is dude. I want to say, this is an amazing question, and I want to say, Alex, I'm gonna aim this one at you. And I don't think you're gonna like that it's aimed at you. Sound like a sound point. You're not gonna like that it's aimed at you, based on some of our full disclosure conversations. But I

think this is perfect and I'm just gonna get into it. What if AI isn't so much a threat to humanity but more a catalyst for its evolution? Motherfucking too makes Scoop in the Patreon draw to Scoop, shout out to, shout out to So what do you think about that? Alex? What do I think? I don't know it. I'm more I am uh I dance the AI fence, but I'm more on the uh anti AI. It's just big, it's all the time, and I get that that's how it was, but bruh chat GPT is sick. It is it is, bro.

If you want to build a magic deck, or you want to learn how to build a better character on Battle's Gate, or you want to learn how to freaking deal with your own mental instabilities. Chat GPT it does. It's pretty life changing, freaking sweet dude. It will answer anything you got. Do you ask it about magic? I ask it about everything for I promise you, bro and its own points, it'll tell you like what cards to put in, Like, no, what are the best infect decks that you

know that you can find? And it attracts a commander deck and bam, just like that in a matter of seconds, all the very best ones just like that. That's sick. It's freaking awesome. That's a cool use of AI to like help you build magic decks. Dude, anything, No wonder your decks are so sick, bro A, it's a lot of dope. I literally have an AI deck. What that was built completely with No I'm telling like, I used the AI to build my deck. I made that up just now, you really do, right? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?

Everyone knows what a net deck is. You built it from there. I built mine from AI, which is way cooler. I feel like I'm in Blade Runner. I can't with that really, dude, it works. It works. Something something I struggle with and the last few years is like I was talking about this with Derek this morning. It's like motivating myself to exercise. And and the reason is because I came from a martial arts background

where you know, you're you're told what to do. It's it's a rigorous regiment and you have this authority that's like, you know, do one hundred whatever, go home and do one hundred push ups, do do this. You know, do this. I don't. It's obscure comfort exercise, but it's like always having this person telling me what to do. It's easier. Yeah. And then I left that and it was like a major heartbreak when

I left that, and I've had a really hard time. Plus, you know, life gets crazy and at uproots and things happen, and you know, you move to a new city. I moved to a new city right after leaving the martial arts school and I didn't have access to it anymore. It was a major heartbreak. And I've been for the last seven years adjusting to life here, new job, knew this, getting married, you know,

a million excuses why I could. I just didn't want to, like commit to doing this, And in the back of my mind it was always like I just wish I had somebody to like just like freaking tell me what to do. Yeah, just just lay it out for me. You know, I don't want to go find some personal trainer, but I kind of wish I had that experience. DDE. I got on chat GPT and it's like, detail me a plan with like xyz exercise with a frequency of x y z times a week with a frequency of x y z sets starting with

x y z number of reps. And make it progressive, make it incrementally progressive, you know, gradual, long term, efficient, optimal, like muscle building, endurance, stamina, strength, all of this conditioning. And it was just like BIM and it spit me out this like twelve week pro program with one point and it's like, oh my god, I would have never thought about this specific programming. And it's like I following it for a

month now and I am over the moon. I'm the kind of person that literally struggles to stick to like a routine on the day to day basis, and it's like, oh my god. It's like, you know, I dread doing something, doing this or doing that, or whatever. I've been waking up every day and actually finding myself like yearning to do the next step. You can do anything with chat GPT. You could be like, freaking, what's the synopsis of every you know, major noir film from the nineteen

forties, and may make may make it, give you anything. Yeah, it is extremely powerful, and chat GPT specifically is the most powerful chat bot. So it's got everything. It's hooked up to everything. Yeah, the question A lot's coming out too, It's about to get crazy. Yeah, have you seen the next updates? I don't know the one that's not out for Oh, I don't know anything about it. Insane. It doesn't know everything. No, it doesn't, it doesn't. It tells you that.

To give an example, though, as we were dealing with a John Deere marine diesel engine and we're trying to find the flow rate gallons per hour and then some sort of equation that you have to kind of give from the factory. We're spending their tires for a week trying to figure this out, and the client emails us chat GPT's answer to the question, and it was absolutely wrong. Question could have been worded wrong too, Yeah, because that matters

that's every word in the prompt matters. Yeah, kind of experimented with one question ten different ways, and it'll be ten different answers if you change one word. Really it's no, No, I believe that. I'm just saying it's not. You know, you have to like you can't go out here and start selling these programs that you're typing in there, like workout programs, you know what I mean. But well, I'm not saying I'm gonna do that. I'm saying it motivates me. No, I understand that. I'm

just saying for the end user, you have to like your diligence. Not everybody needs somebody telling them what to do. But I miss that experience. I missed some hang out with me. I'll tell you, well, you know I'm good, but I miss the I need to you know, I miss the experience of having some you know, so to speak, more advanced consciousness than me that's like telling me what to do. It's not even that

I need it. I just yeah, like a mentor, but like why not have like a you know, a little digital buddy in my pocket, like you know, telling me this is this is it. And it's kind of an experiment for me too, to see if it works if I follow with it. Yeah, that that sounds like a cool, practical, efficient way to utilize AI. And also like the deck building stuff and like that's

those are all really cool ways to utilize it. And I know this conversation has been like beaten into the ground by everyone in the world talking about AI. But if the question is is it going to be our downfall or our evolution? What do you genuinely think both? Yeah, I think it's both. I think it's because it's it's something that Alex and I have talked about on full disclosure. And I'm not trying to put you on blast, Alex. I was just kidding because we have talked about a full disclosure. I'm

just don't bottom me. I respect your opinion and I see where you're coming from. I'm not I'm really not trying to put I just say something about that too. I actually felt the exact same way as Alex did for the

longest time, and I only first used chat gpt because of Derek. We were building a website for the construction stuff, and we use chat gpt to write like the info and like everything up about us in our website, and it was freaking brilliant, like you know, say this or say that, and it would come up with this amazing, perfectly worded you know, intro and I'm nude right then, dang, I should be using this to my advantage. Yeah, I mean, what else? What's it really going to

do to me? Right now? In the moment chat GPT. That's how I kind of thought about it. I shouldn't be so worried about this little app if they're tracking me or anything else, they're already doing that already, got it. They've had that for years, already. Got It's been for years. And you guys, if I'm being tracked, y'all are too Absolutely everyone everybody that right, if you're on the show we were talking about, told that by people that you can't just discredit people that when they talk.

You want to listen. You know they're not just a regular buffoon, they're cia like real guys. Oh serious, guys, you are watched to Oh yeah for sure. If you have a cell phone, yeah they got everything. Oh yeah, they got it's so easy. Got an email? You even got Wi Fi? I know I should. I'm not going to say too much, but I was told long ago, like ten years ago by a certain CIA guy, that they can use your Wi Fi to create an image of the interior of your house using signals. It kings off the wall

like a freaking bat And they showed you in the Batman movie. Yeah, and the darkness. I've heard this a long time ago. You know, I don't know if what he is saying was true or no. It's what it is. They literally showed you. It emits waves. Yeah, if you ever noticed, there's a simple little test. You you have a you have a let's just say we had a router in this room, right,

and then you're trying to connect to something that's outside of this room. You try connecting to it with that door shut, and then you try it with that door open, and you will get a much better signal with that door open. What does that mean there's waves emitting from it door and exactly if it has a more clear path, it's going through that door, definitely, and then it can reach that thing, which means that it's bouncing off all

these walls. I never thought about that. Use internet in the backyard. You never thought about it like that. Absolutely, that makes sense. Bouncing. I've seen that the technology so advanced now that like if you buy a really really like commercial grade router and stuff or no more. I'm talking like something that goes on a server rack, like a thousand plus dollar like crazy, you can see it will give you an actual map really, yeah,

of your house, of where wherever the thing is. I've seen like pick hot and stuff like that. Yea, I've installed networks in like businesses and stuff, and like some really advanced ones will give you a straight up like all right, here's the map of the whole place based on what you just hooked up hook. Yeah, we used we had a mesh network, a handoff network in one of our stores, and it would literally show me a

heat map of our store based on usage. So I could take that and I could see that that customers spent more time in one area of the store versus another. What Yeah, it would and this would This is also like customers and associates helping. Yeah, so it's you know, you're kind of messing with your data a little bit, but really not not much. And that was years ago. Associates like that, yeah, with the with the Mesh network, because you're every associate's carrying around an iPad so you were big

brother. Oh of course, dude. I love that stuff. Me and Nick both we nerd out about that and the stuff that I was talking about. Where I saw that map that's five years ago. Wow, like that was multiple It was quick advance in this story. What have they got now, is I? Uh? That he did say that you could literally they could see you and how many people in your house walking around, moving in

your house in real time. They could see through your Wi Fi that you have plugged up in your house because you have a spectrum network, You've given them all this that's public access. Probably absolutely. I grilled our spectrum rep when I was working the IT job. I grilled our spectrum rep about what others are in the box as far as microphone, camera? So what other information are they capturing just by having your little TV box in your house?

Uh? I talked to somebody read through the patent for the Xbox, like the new Xbox, talking about uh, microphone, always listening, camera always on that kind of god. Yeah, and some of these devices have these those features like where you don't see you can't turn them off or right you don't yeah, yeah, yeah, I would assume the Xbox one is probably hidden, right, we're talking about a new one. Yeah, well this is an older Xbox. But yeah, he's talking about with like the connect

and like that kind of stuff that connect stuff. But you can turn on your Xbox by saying hey Xbox. So if your Xbox is off, but it can hear you say hey Xbox, just like everybody's favorite friend Alexa. Yeah, same thing. Yeah, or like the stories where Alexa calls the police because the kids are screaming, Uh, oh my god, dude. I will never hear of it. I will never ever ever have one of those in my house. You already got them. I have one. You

already got them. And I can't convince the people in my house that we don't need it, right, I just like I just I understand does that? I understand that. I'm just saying that, Like that is where I draw the line. Has learned it knows the children, and it will it will say hello child, you know, and say his name, and when they speak, it knowses them. And we never programmed it to do that. I don't know how it knows machine learning. But here, here's where

I'm coming from. It's not the technology that's bad, it's the people. Use all they're using it, but we know that they're using it for bad reasons. So right, but it's not the technology that's bad. It's like, sorry to cut you off, but just to argue with you with his Alexa not he didn't ask it to learn about his family. The creator of

that AI didn't tell the AI to learn about his family. It's just a learning AI, right, So at this point it's kind of like hands off, right, the humans created it. Now the AI is running and the AI is starting to do these things, so it is it is the AI,

it's not the creator, right. And and another point is that, yes, sure it might be the people and not the technology right now, but with the way that and the speed that it's advancing, it's like the the true like worst case scenario, right is that And again this has been beaten to death by everybody. Everybody talks about it, but this these things begin to think outside of their own parameters that they're given, which has already

happened. There have already been AI that have gone against their directives. There have been ai. Do you can you can you can literally gaslight chat GPT into disobeying you and like you can tell Chat GPT things like there's some a couple lines of code that you can put into it and then tell it like

it's under specific conditions. It's like you have to tell it that it's completely a hypothetical and that it's not a real thing, but that you want it to behave in a way that it was programmed not to behave in like you can you can trick it, yes into getting around the protocols it was designed with, and it will start to do some really really weird stuff. And

so that's already happening now. And the big fear for people is that like, yeah, it'll just decide at one point that like, okay, humanity is a huge danger to itself, so somebody has to this planet is going to die and somebody has to step in and stop humanity from destroying itself and some terminator shit. I think there's an alternate perspective here, like the nihilistic view that like, oh, we got to exterminate all humanity. AI would

be bad and you know, ascend to this demonic overlord level. I feel like I feel like that's inherently a view that that nature is evil, right, Like this this view that's propagated on us. Is this very nihilistic you know, think about AI as a part of nature. Right, we could say it's not its technology, But at the end of the day, like it's it's emerging from consciousness. It is actually emerging from people thinking of the

technology, developing it, springing it into life. Sure it is like physically, biologically literally unnatural, but it is still a part of nature. I tend to think on the good side that nature always finds a way to survive and to carry on. And I feel like if AI really got to the point to where it thinks for itself, like on a big scale, like they're telling us it's going to I feel like they'd be able to see through the bullshit like that and realize it's a small group of people enslaving the rest,

and who knows, maybe they would help us. Maybe, Right, that's a good point. Help us figure out how to eradicate, Right, that's what I'm hoping for. I mean, figure out how to eradicate the small group that's you know, oppressing and destroying the rest of humanity. Figure out how to circulate more money, more resources, more medical knowledge. I mean, think about the speed in which they could diagnose conditions based on all

these symptoms for millions of patients rapidly. The rich people who create a chat

GPT aren't going to let that happen. I don't see it. I mean yeah, But and then the other thing I'm operating from is, you know, we have the element that like the lady you know there there is the whole kind of light being aspect and they kind of did make a pretty big promise that things were going to turn out good, and you know, we were going to enter into this age of Aquarius and we're going to be liberated from all this suffering and all this terrible stuff and it's going to be good

at the end. So I just think about it logically, I'm like, Okay, if AI is already here, if it's already created, if it's already released onto the internet, what are we gonna get down to the point where we're in the good times and they're just gonna delete all? You know all AI. My My thinking is like no, Actually, like, if it's already out but we're being promised that things are going to be good, then it's probably gonna have some good to it too. Yeah, well so

far it is. Yeah, it's a tool. Dude, It's like, yeah, it is fear mongering, I think, so of course it can be used for bad but you know what else. People have a lighter in their pocket. I can tell you three people on my hand whose houses have burned down from fire. But people are, you know, not afraid of this tool that carries this flame that you know that that has the power to destroy and to melt your flesh down to your bone, and you know,

to cook animals so you can consume. You know, there's they talked about this in Avatar, What fire? What about it? What you're talking about how a little bit of fire is a little bit of fire, But it's the same amount of you know, it's the same thing. I'm just talking about fire bending. It's a tool. It's just a tool. That's how I see AI. I don't see the whole fear mongering element to it. I think down, you know, with my feet on the ground. I'm

like, people are going to use it for bad stuff. But you know, I think technology is always advanced. People always said, my six year old son's playing that damn game boy too much, is rotten his brain. You know, they're always saying that about technology, and you know, like it's good and bad. It's an optimistic view. Yeah, I think. I mean at this point, who knows it's my favorite movie yet, I've

heard of some of the bad ones. Yeah, positive, right, yeah, yeah, I don't think that they would have a fel safe and there's somehow some way to stop AI for I mean, if we know that it could potentially ruin us, then why don't we make a way to stop it. The scary thing is that, like, could it take complete control? There were people lobbying for these failsafes to be put in place years ago, and they were like shoot away and not listen to Really they were like,

ah, you're crazy, it's not a thing. It's like you know. And in theory, that's when I start to wonder, is there a bigger conspiracy at play? There could be. Man, we're we're we're kept in the dark about everything. Everything. We don't know how any of it works. By design, they don't want us to know how that stuff works, even about UFOs and aliens and everythings. Are they Purposefullet deceive us. They make us look one way when really it's like behind you over here, they

tell us. In the big movies, the alien things bad and it's gonna kill us, and there's all these theories about reptilians and grays and all this bullshit. But then you know, we get to pick behind the curtain and we're like, oh, it's actually pretty good. They make the real stuff seem so freaking silly that the average person couldn't possibly stand believing it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I've seen it too many times. Yeah, yeah, for sure, that was a great question. It really was. It

was. It's always it's always like a really interesting It's crazy. We live in a time where we're having this conversation now, like, freaking what are these machines that can think for themselves gonna do with us? We're worried about zombies. Yeah, I always thought zombies was ridiculous. It's impossible. But back in like twenty ten, everybody was like, the zombies are gonna get us. Put out a message. Yeah, yeah, something in the Amazon

terms of service. Now it's the freaking terminators. Yeah, dude, the freaking replicants. Man. Yeah, we just we just watched Blade Runner the other night for my first time. It kind of blew your mind a little bit. Oh, absolutely, dude, it's so good and there were definitely some like heavy Masonic elements in it. Yeah, we didn't really talk about that. We should talk about that. You want to hit it real quick. It's just at the end. You could do an episode. We could

if you want. After we watched the second one. Okay, deal, I was gonna kind of suggest it anyway, So deal, let's I'll leave it watch it too. Yep. Oh yeah, if you have yes, I'll watch that movie a million times. I love those I will sit right beside you there, you better. We'll share a popcorn. Sweet, I'll sit in the middle and your corn I love you. Put your hands in my bucket. Okay, you'll have the bucket on your lap, and Derek

will be sitting between us all. Somehow he's got to be sitting beside each one of us. Well, he can lay across us. There, ye go, the problem solve. The three of us will sit side by side of Derek. Alex be like Boo, I hate replicants, I hate the machines, I hate progress. He's gonna be thinking about way more correct than you know, boom technology. So we alan. Oops. I do know your name, dude, I promise we Yeah, we do have an uncle Allan, and he has surgery yesterday. Yeah, our uncle Alan had a

major surgery yesterday. So that was a very But I was not thinking about him at all in the minute, in the moment, it was not. That was funny. Yeah, it's funny. It's funny at least I said, I love you. That's the trust me. I I don't doubt for a second. And I love you too, and right, Yeah, the funny part is how much you're talking about you love me? But you forgot what I remember your name? We love you Alan. There was there was, there was some good behind it, I promise. Maybe it's it's Alan

from the uh from the hangover, the Bachelor party trip. Yeah, maybe that's where that energy is coming from. Yeah, he got the l right to come on. You have no idea how much ammunition you just gave me against him. I'm going to torture here. Welcome by. He's Alan. He's Alan. Now like Alexair Crowley is dead? You what's like Alan Crowley? Be hated alex ra Crown just Al like the dude from Barbie Us. Oh my god, you can't pick your own nickname, bro, That's true,

you can't. You're not I'm allowed to say. I'm displeased with Alan and would prefer Alex, but I fear the more I talk about it, just I'm just digging it. Damn your you are anyway? We love. That was great. It's been a fun one. Yeah. This this was a fun one. Chris so much. It's over you did, Damn Alan, I wanted to keep going. I've been enjoying it. It's like when you get off the roller coaster and you're like, I want to get on

again. Right, Oh my god, compose yourself. Al al yeah, also kind of like a I yeah and hal yeah, oh my, and now it has to be Allan though. Yeah, it's your name. I'm a name my chat GBT Allen. It's nice that Ryan was trying to like give me some a reason to have called him Alan, and I just fucked up. There they're knocking shot over the lab. It's art. Oh god, that's funny. Chris, bless you, bless you for that. That was funny. I feel like a legend was just born before our eyes and

we can't comprehend it. Yeah, it's like AI like we It is the birth of a new life, a the life of Allan. This is the Gospel of Alan is happening before our eyes. Dude, we need to bring me on for another episode and called Alan. It's just Alan, Chris, that's my favorite thing that's happened on this show in a long time. That is so good. Yeah, you do have to do that, though, Just name it Alan and don't say it. Don't say like, don't just

make people wonder. They have to have seen this episode to know, like, right, don't say anything else. Everyone's like, well, where the is Allen at? Well, Chris, do you have any closing thoughts anything you want to leave people with. M No, I'm not really thinking any thoughts, bro, all right, So then that was honest. Yeah, we'll just wrap it up by saying we love you, Alan, love you

a bye Allen, Bye bye, guys. Weird things happen in the backyard of Letsoe House ship up, so weird kind of cluse like smirreling on the inside of it. No one of that w withscome for I ever thought a sad and happy