The weird things, weird, weird, weird. Step two of the preparatory process. Technically step one is they play waves, ocean waves to relax you. Then you have the energy conversion box. Then you have the om chanting, because that's why we did that the first night we were we were changing our vibration for the rest of the week. Then you do a couple of minutes of chanting every meditation you could do e or awe or whatever value vowel
you want, it doesn't matter. You want the vibrations bouncing around in your skull. And then you do the resonant energy balloon. And this particular their technique is reminiscent of Rosicrucian magic, gnostic magic, all these different ancient occult practices. I want to be careful putting a label to it, but it's things that we have studied and things we have discussed. It is a very ancient practice, and it's visualizing. It's basically a form of visualizing energy.
And I've always heard about these techniques and I thought, wow, so cool, but never really took it serious. Tried it a couple times, you know, I'm like, this is cool, but didn't really pursue it. But this is a foundational part of the preparatory process that you must do every time, and it is very important, and I've come to believe it is
very real. And you focus on white light coming from the top of your crown out of your head, and it fountains out of your head in all directions and goes around your body, and then it fountains back up into your feet like a terroidal field. And then that energy when it is through your feet, it spirals through the center of your being up back to your head, fountains out of your head, and you're creating a torus field of magnetic
energy. And you constantly keep this visual going. And when you meditate, you focus on this, you focus on this, and eventually, I'm telling you, dude, you can do it all the time throughout the day. You'll start to feel the tingles in your head and in your feet. You'll start to feel it vibrating. And then after doing it for so long, so many different sessions, they teach you how to subconsciously program it into your
brain where you can think of a switch and it'll activate. And the Monroe switch, I'll just go ahead and say it because it can still be programmed. The Monroe switch is because this is first achieved in the focused ten state. You think of a glowing circle of light with the number ten in the center of it. This is what this is Monroe's method. But they're like, but you can make your own. You can create your own subconscious symbolism.
It doesn't matter. So you think of this glowing circle of light with the number ten, and you take a deep breath, and then you visualize you're blowing out the circle. You're blowing out the circle with the number ten in it. You're just you're exhaling it out of your body. After so many times of doing this throughout the week, you do this trigger and immediately you hit an altered state, or at least I did, and you feel the vibrations in your head and in your feet, and it's just like boom.
You can instantly recall this state. Who And the idea is that it keeps your energy from leaking out, but it keeps negative energies from permeating your energy field. That's the idea of the force field yes type thing. Yes, because when you're going out of body, you want to be protected of course, yeah, yeah, And I started to realize that's orbs. Oh my, whoa, hold though, that's crazy. Whoa it's orbs yo. That blew my mind a little bit. I blew mind when I was sitting
there learning it. It's orbs. These interdimensional beings just can do it a little better. Yeah, like you're describing it, and I'm literally like picturing like a doun't like a almost like a ball, like a force field around Yes, dude, wait what the that's nuts? Right? Oh my god, that's so incredible because we've seen them step out of the orbs. That's not their form. But I don't know. I just in meditation it came to me that, like, we must do this, we must master this,
because it's it's like even though we don't see it. I mean, you know, there's not light, we're not super saying, right, you know what I mean, it's not coming out of us. It's it's in the etheric field, in the in the astral world that this light is around us, and entities and spiritual forces can see this light and we can sense it. And another cool thing that they don't us is that you can manipulate
the physical world with this force. And if there's somebody that you're at odds with, or you know you're upset with, or their energy is offensive. You can visualize your field expanding to include the minute. And they have found over the years of experimenting with this that people who are upset or something,
you know, there's just some sort of situation going on. And those who are in the know of this and they focus on putting their field around others, Over time, their their energy will equivalate and and it'll calm down and they'll, you know, be more at peace with one another. My teacher, Archie, he was he's from Spain, right, So he was at a conference in Spain, and he saw this guy across the room and there's thousands of people all around him, and he's like, oh, I bet
I could get that guy to look at me. He started thinking about his They call it a reball resonance energy balloon because remember they're trying to destigmatize any They don't want to call it anything from religion. They want their own terminology, so reball. He's like, I bet if I extend my re to be around him and really focus intently on it, he'll I can get him to look at me. And he said, the guy was turned around and he was thinking on it really hard, and then the guys he just did
a one adio. He just he looked at him. What the fuck? I really say that? Did the guy really say that? My teacher? He was like, what the fuck? Like he looked at me like it shocked your teacher. Yes, because he actually looked I wasn't work. Yeah, yeah, oh my god, it actually worked. Wow. So maybe there's something to that whole thing where people say you can feel if somebody's staring at you. Yeah, maybe I don't know, that's crazy. Yeah,
I love that he reacted. So, I mean, they're just they're really cool people. Man, They're they're really ordinary, but not so ordinary, just smiling, life loving, humble people. They're not like you must forsake you a wife, and it's not like that, you know, It's just it's like like that's the first thing Mina told me. She was like, I lived in India for two years and meditated by palm trees and reached inner peace, and they realized I like owning things. There's some charm to this
physical realm. There is. Yeah, you can like both we're in it too, yes, you know, and we're equally in this. She came to Monroe and she got one week of She got more out of one week at Monroe than she did two years living in ascetic lifestyle in India, meditating for hours a day, transcendental meditation and all that. That says a lot because people devote their lives to going to like pilgrimage, right, like on pilgrimage to India. That's what I'm saying, man, Monroe is the pilgrimage.
It is real, it's perfected. It's like, oh, you don't want to spend forty years mastering this here, just just lay down, get real cozy and just listen to my voice. Yeah, and just know that it's possible because you are more than your physical body. Indian Pilgrimage is the rake and Monroe is the leaf blower. Yeah yeah, yeah, good point. Yeah, Man, Monroe ows the damn artificial intelligence robot with laser vision cutting the grass and it's the most engine tech Yeah, dude, it's the
most cutting edge spiritual thing. I mean, it's it's it's mind blowing. And it came to me in meditation. That's why I brought up the reball thing, because when you get to these altered states, the things that are in your mind, you see them as if they're very clear. And that was one thing I noticed that the more I focused on the reball the resonant energy balloon, the deeper I would go into the meditation. And it came to me. I was like, holy shit, this is what orbs are.
These advanced beings can do this, but it literally alters the physical world, you know, potent right, yeah, but it's the same thing. It's It just came to me. I was like, this makes sense. We can visualize these orbs of light, you know, spiraling through our body and being around us, and and and it can change our lives, like it can have an effect, protect our energy field and help others with it. And they were like, imagine yours going around other people in the room.
If you're in a room full of people and you want to have a good time, extend your field to the entire room. So when I was in deeper meditation, I was like, fuck that, I want to extend it around the whole world. Bring them all, bring God, bring everybody. Yeah, yeah, shroud the world. And I told Maya, She's like, hm, I never heard that one I was like, I'm trying to reach people. I'm trying to reach people trying to explode their energy field. Man, get it around the whole world. And I did, and
it was it was a very nice feeling. I love that I even wrote my thoughts down here. After exercise too, I did the resident energy Balloon visualization and really loved it. During phase ten, when I focused on the reball I saw visuals kind of like DMT. I also saw myself flying in Amerca. But I wonder if orbs or celestial beings manipulating their energy in a similar way to travel the cosmos in between worlds. I felt a strong vibration in my right foot the first time Bob got to the count of eight,
Because the first early stage is getting to focus ten. You count all the way from one to ten, and you like go through this guided relaxation of the whole body. By like day three, the track is like I'll see you in Focus ten and you just have to do it on your own because you've like kind of basically mastered it at that point. It's baby steps the first time. Now relax your toes. Now, you know, on count of two, relax your feet and then he's like, I'll see you.
He's like, do the prep process and then I'll see you in Focus fifteen. We progress. It's fast. Yeah. Exercise three of Focus ten we had to do this thing with a light wand where you like focus on a single speck of light and then you extend it and then you think of it flickering really fast, and you think of all these different colors and different patterns.
And you take this wand and you can move it to out your body or other people's bodies and scan their energy field and then scan their emotional body and then scan their physical body and see if there's like any sort of problems there and try to send healing energy. And funnily enough, my friend Larry, who is the very coincidentally actually he's the original guy who ever told the
Bloods of Family about the Monroe Institute. And he's the original guy who got us in touch with a lot of these CIA operatives, and he's a very well connected guy behind the scenes. And his wife had multiple sclerosis. I was trying to that's a hard word to say, but she had multiple sclerosis and she was completely healed this way. No, that's an inhalable, incurable Oh yeah, that's a really really rough one. Yes, it's completely healed
through hypnotic trance like states energy healing, all that stuff. It's real. Wow. You know it depends, you know, how much you believe it, how much you set your intention to achieve it. Yeah. You know, even somebody who wouldn't believe in like this spiritual side of things would call it like the power of the mind. You know, they like to they
like to throw that around, but they won't commit fully. And but what's the difference at the end of the day, Really, the mind is the spirit the logos right placebo is magic at the end of the day, everything is mental, right, facts, that's the first thing about Monroe. It's like this is all possible because you are more than your physical body. That's it. That's that's the whole. That's all Folks like, there's there's no
secret here. Like they're very open about this. It's it's a very wonderful thing to see with all these societies out there that want to keep it secret. You know, they're like, yeah, I mean, you know, come to a retreat and you'll you'll know you'll experience this, yeah, beyond any doubt. Yeah, So the third exercise of that day I did Yeah.
So we did four meditations that day. I got into a state of deep relaxation almost instant because by the third time, it's like, Okay, I'm starting to understand this, and you know, you can kind of just your brain remembers too. It's like lifting a muscle. They tell you this, it's like lifting a weight. Like the more you do this, the more your brain gets stronger and stronger at doing this, and then by the end of the week they have you with all these different images in your mind
that you think of and you just get there. The last day, we achieved focused twenty one. Walking through the woods like no frequencies or anything. I'm telling you, man, it was like being on mushrooms. I was walking around. I was like, ah, these leaves are just so beautiful. Man, Oh my god, and this bumblebee flew around my head. Shit, I said, oh, it's like the reball, and then it landed on my crown. No way, no way. Yeah, I'll get
to that story later. I instantly went into a deep state of relaxation, and when it came time to construct the light on again, I could see myself and body as a gigantic cosmic entity made of stars and galaxies. And then I clicked out. So that's a very common thing that happens randomly, is you'll get so into the meditative trance state that you actually will click out, where you just basically forget the rest of it and you're like kind of
woken up when his voice comes on at the end. But base, yeah, it is. They call it clicking out, and they're like, but don't worry because you're still getting the benefits. It's still suggesting into your mind, like don't even worry about it. And some people were clicking out, They're like, fuck, nothing happened. And then other people are like, I saw you in the astral world. WHOA what did I say? And
then and then they share the message. It's like, oh my god, that's real, you know, like that was happening all week, and other people be like I clicked out, like I got a rock. Yeah. And then exercise four we did a free flow focus ten and that time I didn't click out. I was very excited and I saw the ORB thing again, like orbs, the whole the reball thing and seeing a connection there. I forgot to say the morning of that first full day. Remember my secret
mission was to show like kind of entice people to SkyWatch with me. On day four or five, the morning of the first day, Chris Ramsey walks up to me and he's like, hey, man, how do you feel about skywatching tonight? Like would you Is that okay of me to ask you? Basically like he was being really nice about it, like I don't remember these act phrasing. He's like, is that okay for me to ask? Like is that something you'd be willing to do? And in my head I
was like fuck fuck funk. I was like, yeah, man, that'd be that'd be cool. You wanted to wait because my idea was to do it day like four or five, Yeah, just to feel the vibe. Yeah, he was like, want SkyWatch tonight and I was like yeah, man, well yeah, me and me and you will go out there tonight. And then you know, later on, I think Jordan finds out or I come up to him privately. I'm like, hey, we're going to
be skywatching tonight. I just thought, you know, if you were there helping me, because I know you've seen this before, you know, maybe have better chances. And then I went around to Hakem and I'm like, hey, we'll come be skywatching tonight. The people I knew. Next thing, you know, Chris is like, I don't remember who it was, but he was like so and so said they want to go, and I'm like, oh, there's ten people, wow, okay and yeah. By by about four or five o'clock, I was like, fuck it, man,
just invite everybody. Just shout it. Bring yeah, get the megaphone, bring God. Yeah, my grandpa too, man. And they all came and we all saw stuff. And when I first got there, I was a little nervous because the doubt in my head, the imposter syndrome, was like, I don't have this connection like my dad does. I can't just do this ship on command and people see this. You know, it's happened before, but that's that's not something that I felt confident to do.
And we did see some things and I was like, oh, okay, and I called Dad because Dad always tells me if you need help, just call me, and I called him. He talked to everybody, said what's up. And he was on the phone with us for like an hour, and we saw quite a bit and it was a good vibe that was easy. You know, Night one ten people saw so anyway, moving on that'll we'll pick up on that later. So Day one was pretty awesome. I'm
gonna end that one there. So basically we ended the nice guy watching by the crystal very cool, and then we get to day three, which is Focus twelve, which is basically where the magic begins. Focus twelve, I'll just read it from the pamphlet. I think it would explain it better than me. The state of expanded awareness. This is a state where conscious awareness
is expanded beyond the limits of the five physical senses. Focus twelve has many different facets, including exploring non physical realities, decision making, problem solving, and enhanced creative expression. Now, this is something I want to actually teach you guys, Like this is something that we can all do from home obviously. I mean I thought about it yesterday and I've been talking about it with Jenny today. But I do think it'd be really cool if we all somehow
figured out how to get there that like bloed so set so thing. Wow, Like that's that's definitely something that I think is worth every penny. I think it would. I Mean, you know, there's these corporate cultures where Jenny's Bossel, you know, send people to Tampa every year to get together and hang out and for morale, I mean, why can't we do stuff like that? Yeah, you know, and should Yes, absolutely, yes,
that's something that I would I would love for us to experience. But yeah, so it in the meantime, it's it's something that we can still
do, like you can you can access tapes at home. Actually, right before Alex walked in today, coincidentally, moments before he knocked on my door, my session ended and I was doing a Focus twelve and I definitely when I woke up, my vision was kind of blurry, which I was like, yes, because I haven't experienced this in a week because I haven't done any of the like serious Focus twelve meditations in the last week because it's been so hard to integrate being home. But anyway, so back to Monroe.
They explained that Focus twelve is the most productive state, right, you have all these higher states of consciousness where you can do very profound things, Like the next day is Focus fifteen. We'll get to that later. You have Focus twenty one, and then it goes even beyond that and you can like do things with these states. You can achieve these states and have specific purposes, Like, for example, Focus fifteen is perfect for manifestation, right,
Focus twelve is perfect for being productive. I'm writing a new song, but I'm kind of blocked. Let me get into Focus twelve. Your mind begins to expand. Dude. I'm telling you, dude, we can really use this. Incredibly interesting. Listen to me. They have a program called Creation Station where literally artists, musicians, creators of all different types come for a week and the program is specifically focused on creativity and locking the channel of creativity
through Focus twelve. My friend Ignasio, he's one of the audio engineers from Monroe. Very wonderful, amazing human being, and my sister has been talking to him for many months, just kind of like privately. They became friends and they've been chatting. She's been telling me, oh my god, you gotta meet Ignacio. He's so wonderful. And I get there and I find out he's doing it with me. Like even though he's a Monroe instructor and he's an audio engineer and he's like part of the institute, he was on
our side doing the program with us. Wow, which was very cool. There was actually two instructors doing it with us. That's so cool. Two instructors teaching and then two doing it with us. And then the other instructor, Emily. I'll talk about her later. She has a really really cool specialty that's probably gonna come out of left field and you'd be like, what the hell. Yeah, we'll get to that later. But anyway, so the creativity stuff is like, that would change my life. Oh, and
it works. That would change my life. So then I struggle with Agnasio is explaining to me that you can Oh, this is where I was going with this. The audio engineers there like Agnasio and Bob Holbrook and there's others that I haven't met. They are so smart with this stuff, dude. They have mastered it now to where you don't for the new like focused twelve state frequencies and focus beyond like fifteen twenty one. That's how far the app
goes. They're going to implement more focus levels as they go, I think because the app is a more recent concept for them. It's a nonprofit. Munroe is a nonprofit, but then they have the other division where they're kind of like able to make a profit. So they're like, we have an app. We have frequencies. You know, a nonprofit can't you technically make profits. So they have to be creative about how they Sure, yeah, you know, sort of market monetarily into the world. But anyway, their
app is amazing. They explained to me that they figured out how to get people to these states without headphones. Right. These are binaoral beats. You guys know how that works. Right, You take a four hurtz frequency you want to get there, But that's beneath the what a what a phone speaker could even do, right, It's beneath what the ear can even hear. Yeah, So in order to do that, you have to modulate frequencies to
where like let's say you have one hundred and four and one hundred. The brain is going to interpret these two frequencies and it's going to basically synchronize and understand it as four hurts. Right. They won't explain it. It's proprietary technology. I didn't ask anyway, because I'm not trying to prye on their secret sauce I kind of respect the craft. But they they have figured out how to do it without headphones, and I did it today. I literally
did it, right, before Alex walked in. It's through your phone speaker. Yes, wow, yes, I have an idea of how they do it, but obviously they won't. It's there, it's there. We'll talk later. I was curious, like not not to not to compete, but I was like, I wonder if this is something that could be made at home. But I don't know because I'm just I'm so like support of them, you know, and what they're doing, and obviously it can be done at home if you have the knowledge, I mean, anybody, it's the
brain that does this, you know. It's it's very curious how they do it, but anyway, so they've mastered it. It's very cutting edge stuff. So when we started getting into Focus twelve, I started to notice my awareness expanding, not just from within my unit seeing the blackness of my eyelids, but visualizing the room and then visualizing the hallway, seeing Chris because his room was beside mine, seeing Brad, which is another good friend of mine
that I made. His name is Brad Young and he I don't know if you guys know much about Randall Carlson, but he's like sort of like a partner with him, and they do podcasts together. He's he's like always on the road with him, and he's like his carlson. That guy's been on Rogan, hasn't he a lot of times? Yeah? A bunch. Yeah, he's like his best friend. And we were there together and and is
just such an amazing guy. And his room was beside me and Chris's, and then Sean Webb, the mind hacking happiness guy, his room was upstairs. I began to as when I hit Focused twelve, I began to become aware of them, like seeing them in my mind, seeing our unit, and then expanding up past the building and sort of seeing the property, looking down at the cabins and the crystal, and then seeing the mountain, and
I was like, oh my god. I just kept expanding higher and higher, and then I felt like I was in up in the clouds, and I felt like I was in orb and I saw and I saw in my mind thousands of beings of light over the mountains surrounding us and watching us. And I'll write down I'll tell you what I wrote down, but I said that is in Yeah, let me find the exact thing that I wrote down. But I'm just picturing like experiencing that firsthand, like my self first person
like that, that would be very intense. It be hard to like feel grounded. But I guess that's the whole point of that is the whole point going here and doing this thing is like you're trying to be not grounded. Yeah, you go there to not be grounded. I for some reason didn't write this one down. I think it was just so like incredible to me. But I saw myself as an orb up in the clouds, and then I saw thousands of orbs around the mountain. And then the words came clearly
into my mind because they're very clear. They're like, speak to your higher self when you're in these states, set an intention, ask your higher self for a message, ask for guidance. And I was like okay, and you know, asking for a message. And the words came very clear into my mind. It said tonight there's gonna be a miracle. And I was like, okay, cool. And after this session, I went and I had lunch. I actually I kind of switched a few sessions around, but
that's okay. But after this session, I went and I had lunch. That wasn't actually the first session, but I felt like it was the most important. But setting up what happened. When I got to lunch, Alan the CEO was there, Paul the CTO, and I think that was it. They were there visiting us. They only came twice. We didn't get to see them like the whole week and everything. And I was like,
Hey, Alan, I'm Chris the Son. I'm so excited to because you know, they've met, they know each other dad and he's been there a few times, you know, oh yeah, private cast some groups, so he met with a lot of these kind of behind the scenes board member people. So I said, Hey, I'm Chris a Son. I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for having me. I just wanted to say hello. And she said, hey, yeah, come come sit with me. Let's have lunch together. And I was like, okay, great.
I was like, I have to tell you what I just saw on Focus twelve, and sitting with me and Alan was also Amy shout out, Amy illuminating Joy, a very lovely, wonderful person who we actually manifested. Know if you guys remember that we talked about I guarantee when we meet up, it's going to be at Monroe and we did. We Manifested meeting at Monroe, which is the craziest thing. If you guys go listen to our episode that we did with Amy, she says that epid. At the very end,
we were like, well, manifest being there together. Yeah, I think she said it. Yeah, and we did, and we were like, holy shit, here we are. Yeah. So me and Amy, Arkie and Alan were sitting down eating lunch and I was telling her some of the things I was seeing and I said it in Alan. I don't know if this means anything, but the words very clearly came to my mind to focus twelve tonight, there's going to be a miracle. And she was like hmm. And we were talking about it and we were like, but you
know what, everything that happens here is a miracle. I mean, you know, going out of body and remote viewing and they benspoons and psychoconesis stuff which I need to get around to that, And I mean, all of this stuff is miracle by the conventional sense. It could be anything could happen, right, We've already seen miracles. People are getting messages in the astral and they're like yeah, yeah, yeah, don't put so much pressure on it. I'll get back to that. Throughout the day in Focus twelve,
I just I started to see things so much more clearly. And this was very weird. This is gonna sound very weird, but whatever, this is exactly what I wrote in my journal. I felt like I was visited by a Curatoriama, and I saw a faint white light flashing with my eyes closed, and I felt him near me, and I started getting all this information in my brain that was like, all this stuff in dragon Ball Z is this is symbolism that's encoding at the subconscious level the reball they're glowing with their
energy. I started to think about it's the year of the Dragon he died, and all this profound stuff about a Curatoriyama. And when my eyes were closed, I saw this flashing white light and I felt like it was a spirit. And then I saw an image of Jeering meditating in dragon Ball Super and he has this bubble around him and nothing can penetrate the bubble, and I was like, huh, that's really weird. And then I realized day one I wore my dragon Ball boxers as my lucky pair of boxers to go
there, and I was like, this is getting weird. So when I brought that up in the debrief, because every lesson we're all supposed to kind of debrief what happened and openly share and be vulnerable. And Ignacio, my friend, the audio engineer and the trainer, said, if you're surprised, you're not making it up. So I was like, okay, I'll go along with it. Yeah, okay, maybe I really did see kuratory on and that's that's not so bizarre to think. I mean, I've been so
obsessed with him my whole life and this work. I mean, and he is dead, so you know what I mean. And it was a recent thing, and you're the Dragon and I am at a place where I'm kind of broadcasting a signal, Hey I'm more than my physical body, come see me, you know. So I don't know, I don't know, but it was interesting and I just I clearly saw that there was something profound to DBZ and the way there are a glows when they you know, visualize it,
and I just was like, this is weird. And some other kind of personal things. I thought it was funny though, that I did wear my Lucky Dragon ball underwear. Yeah the first day. Yeah, I think that's no coincidence. When I woke up from the Focus twelve state, I was so delirious and groggy, and I was searching around my room for several minutes from my glasses. And every time you go into a session, you take off anything. You take off jewelry, you enter your pockets, take
off your shoes, some people get their underwear. I did one time, actually, and you get completely comfortable. So I'm always taking off my glasses, throwing them on my journal. And I got up after the session, I'm looking around for my glasses, like, what the fuck. I can't afford to lose these, They're my only pair. And when I crossed by the mirror, they were on my face. I just I couldn't. There was a lapse in my Sometimes you have a lapse in your consciousness when you
wake up and you don't remember everything because you're so deep into meditation. WHOA, So I had already put him on. I just didn't remember, and I was like, Okay, this is getting weird. Whoa, it's like Spider Man after he becomes Spider Man, Like yeah, but it was kind of like that. I was like, what the heck? Yeah, I didn't even notice that I could see clearly. I was just frantically searching for but I apparently put them on right when I got up, and I just
I couldn't see it in my mind that I did it. I couldn't recall it. When I was in Focus twelve, I saw the reball and I thought more deeply about that, and I thought about, like I kind of saw this visual of you know, we really are more than our physical body. That's something that Monroe very heavily emphasizes. And they taught us very clearly, you never die, truly, Just like it's crazy because we just did the Hermeticism episode where we talked about this just the week that I left.
You never die. They teach that there is no hell, that trapped souls
upon death are stuck in a thought form of fear. So like typically they teach that the souls that remain as ghosts or have trouble ascending to higher realities upon death don't have a really good idea of what it's like in the afterlife or what to expect, or maybe they really fear it because they don't believe in any thing, or they don't believe they'll go anywhere good, or maybe they have a religion that says I have to wait in my grave for a
thousand years to hear a trumpet call. So there's all these ideas about what happens or where we go and we die, and people get trapped in these thought forms. Because we are ultimate energy. We are you know, from God, from source, so we we really do have the power to when we die, we can we can sort of we can ascend to higher realities. But you know what if we don't know that, you know, then we could be trapped. And that's hell, that's like the real kind of
hell. Yeah, And it came it flashed into my mind that that part of the experience here. It's like a river man, Like the river is flowing and you have a steady stream and then sometimes there's rocks in the stream that kind of breaks up the flow and it's a little choppy, but the stream keeps going. And I thought about that, like the soul living through lifetime. Sometimes it's suffering. Sometimes it's very hard, and literally all you
can do is keep focusing on the reball. But it's a metaphor like keeping your energy bright and strong and protected and trying to weather those bad times. I saw it in the form of the reball, Like, huh. If I keep focusing on my energy and keep focusing on maintaining that glow when it's hard, you know, you'll just pass through and just you know, you'll end up on the other side. Okay, that's kind of how it came to me. It's important to even when it's tough, especially when it's tough,
to strengthen your your light. Yeah, and then I had to think about the miracle. Oh I did write this, I said, I wrote, I saw myself in an orbit of white light floating through time. I saw myself in past lifetimes having the burden of trying to help people awaken against dark forces. I understood that I must protect my energy and vibrate at my highest level and the beings will light the way, just float through time, strength and light through suffering. Many lifetimes we suffer, and it's just a
part of the process and we just have to weather it. I saw thousands of light beings here at Monroe and a miracle in the sky, and I went and told Alan. I was like, I saw a miracle in this guy. Okay, So moving forward, So that night Joe mcmonaga came. It was a surprise, we hung out with Joe mcmonagall. For those who don't know Joe mcmonagall, he is the original psychic spy for the US military and he's chapter one of Dad's book, and ironically Monroe is the last chapter.
So that was really cool full circle moment for me, and I got like an hour of footage of Joe just spitting just the ultimate wisdom about like a lot of the stuff he says is reminiscent of what my dad says, like you got to keep a positive attitude. Something he said was, see, you have bought into the illusion that time and space are real. I violated every day, and he said, you know we're ultimate, magical, powerful, capable, spiritual beings. And then you know, basically, you
know, you have to understand you more than your physical body. It was
just this very profound speech. He gave told a little bit of the history of like how he started remote viewing, and a lot of those stories there when we were with Joe, and we were with him for about two and a half hours watching some documentaries about him with him and then he would give commentary, and then we practiced remote viewing his original targets with just co ordinates on the screen and then he would like kind of give input on how to
do it and kind of guiding us through it. And everybody was getting hits too. Chris was Chris Ramsey specifically amazing remote viewer. He drew the entire picture. WHOA, whereas I can show you what I drew. I drew shapes, I drew these arches. Came to mind it was the Saint Louis Arch. WHOA, oh, well, show it to the camera. I drew the Saint Louis Arch. I mean I drew like arches, waves, and then I was like, maybe it's pointy. It was the Saint Louis
Arch. He drew the damn stadium beside it. Yeah, and other people too. We're getting like very accurate hits, Like I want to say, Marco, shout out Marco, Marco J Williams. He's a very cool guy who has this like spiritual Instagram channel. He was getting very accurate hits too. And then the second one I drew, is this a circle? No, it's like a very tall, pointy object. And I wrote metal, very tall, possibly rock because in my mind I started to see how a
crystal or a rock has like striations in the geode. It turned out to be the Devil's Tower, a very tall rock structure. So it's like, okay, like I was getting kind of like elements of it and shapes of it, and then some people were drawing the thing, the exact thing, yes, yeh, yes, and Joe was coaching us and it was it was really cool. We watched a documentary. I'm very curious, like,
can you talk about how that the process? The process? Yeah, and I'm not saying like give away his secret sauce, not a secret, they teach it. Yeah, I'm just saying like, can you hit on that a little bit more? Yeah, process of how that happened, just going off memory here, it's it's basically like you okay, so you have to understand you are more than your physical body, right, That's that's how this
is possible. He's so involved with Monroe and obviously you know, believes all this stuff and practices it too, because you are more than your physical body, and time and space are not real, they're not linear any point of he what he said, like I have it on video. He said, like you are literally writing the script for your own movie, your life. The script was written by you before you even lived here, like you can
access all of this information. And he was so good that he told the story where he had to do like a it was with Disney actually the Disney Channel back in like the eighties or nineties or something. They wanted to try to get him, like we want to record you remote view and a target, but we're gonna give you the coordinate like months in advance. And you know, is this kind of they did this tricky process, and they had these four different targets in mind. The moment he heard the four coordinates,
he knew them. He just he knew exactly what they were. Whoa yeah, and and he had it accurately mapped out. They tried to get him. The guy that was like doing the whole bit didn't even believe it was real. He blew all their minds. Had it one hundred percent accurately. And they tried to go so far as to make the target like a boat out in the middle of the water without like concrete coordinates, and like change it up on him, and he followed every change and accurately nailed it.
And they were like what the fuck And the producer, Hey, this is Disney cut you gotta we got to re record that. And he's like, gosh, darn it, like he blew their minds. And yeah, they were trying to trip him up because they didn't believe it. Whoa and uh yeah, the moment he got the envelope and he wrote top secret on it and he was a military guy doing this, so he's like, not breaking the protocol. It has to be respected. They wanted to break the protocol
just to prove him and it's not real. Change the coordinates on him, and it was so funny because the guy told him months before they filmed the segment and he got the coordinates. He's like, I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't believe in this shit. And you know, I don't think it's real. I think it's hocus pokets. I think it's a magic trick. And Joe said something back to him that was really funny. I
can't remember it's on the video. And then he said that night he went to his hotel and he just had like a big steak dinner and drank a glass of wine, got in the hot tub or the bathtub or whatever, and just relaxed and he watched a Western movie, and he went to sleep and he was just like totally at peace, Like he wasn't even phased by the fact that they were, you know, skeptical. It's really funny when he tells the story. So the whole process is you just you know this.
You know that time and space are not linear. So you clear your mind and you think of the coordinates right, and you allow impressions to come in and over time, the more you do it, the better you get. And whatever comes to your mind, the first thing that comes your mind, you write it down. You're not like you cannot inject your doubt. Oh well maybe it's not this, Maybe it's not that. That's what I do. That's why I couldn't get the full picture. Whatever you if you
get it's a it smells good, write it down. You just got to. You gotta write down every impression you get. Most people that did this weren't getting it the picture, you know, they're getting details. They got so good at it. In the Army and then the CIA that they were basically like the Minority report, like they would they they actually stopped a I
think it was a Russian ambassador within eight minutes of being assassinated. They they had the idea that he was in this this facility, they were able to remote view. Oh god, there's you know, there's eight entrances, there's two exits. He's up here. We need to enter here, take the shot here. And they did that and it was like eight minutes away from him having the trigger pulled on his head, and they stopped it like Minority
Report, like they they were stopping crimes even sometimes before they happened. And he said, every single time that he ever had to remote view a child, uh, he never failed, even if he found a corpse that you know, sometimes it was saving children in hostage situations. Sometimes it was finding the body because they were already dead. But he always was able to do
it. And he got really famous doing this because he found the ancient corpse of a Japanese princess because she had a mysterious hidden tomb and they're like, we want to find her burial side as sacred and he was like, well, you guys are dinging fucking golf balls onto it. She was under a golf course. Yeah, he found her body. Yo, he needs to remote you freaking Merlin find out where his body's at. Yeah, come on, he needs to remote hercules for a lot of stuff. That would be
windy, dude. A Japanese princess, Yeah, whoa the true story underneath a golf course Japan. So that night we were watching an old TV segment of him. We had a bunch of videos to watch with him, and it was like an interview in the eighties or nineties that he did, and the lady on the TV said, Joe, this is fantastic. Everything you've done today is a miracle. And me and Amy were like, it's the miracle. We had the miracle tonight. What the fuck? It was the
miracle. We were freaking out and Archie was there, the teacher. I was like, Arcie, it's the miracle. He was like, oh my god, it's miracle. There's gonna be a miracle tonight when I was a Focus twelve. So we're like, okay, and it's getting freaky wow dude. Yeah. And I saw some other stuff too, like I saw being in the Egyptian temple in a past life, and I saw laying in a coffin like Osyrius, because that's what they would do in these rituals. They
would induce near death experiences. Or out of body states, and they would we talked about this, how they would, you know, sometimes they'd smoke blue loo, or they would do these other things to try to go out of body or walk in their dreams. We've talked about this a lot on the show. But I saw myself doing it in the temple in ancient Egypt, and I saw a light being in the temple, and I had the sense this is something I've never considered before, but now it doesn't sound so
crazy to me. I had the sense that back then their connection was so much stronger, that these initiates in the temple were like perhaps the beings were actually materializing face to face, because that's what I saw in a past life, that I was face to face with a being just like we see now, and that throughout time, I got the sense that this is what they were doing back then, the out of body stuff orbs, all of it that in ancient times, in ancient times in Egypt, in the temple and
wherever. And I was like, okay, this is pretty deep. And then I want to say, yeah, that was still the same day. Okay, yeah, so this is the first day I went out of body. So then the drumming monocle thing was at night. But skipping back a little bit, we did the first intro to body intro to out of body exercise and it was like we get into focus twelve and then we visualize the reball really strongly. Pay attention to it, because not every time you're supposed
to pay attention to it. It's just part of the process. You like, activate it and then it's like, I want to speak to my higher self, I want to do this, do that. They have all these exercises, but this time was like, pay attention to the reball. Now, imagine your body rising to the sky. It's a guided meditation with Robert Monroe, and then gently falling back into your body. And it's just really slow, guided process and you can do it three times, rising to the
sky as high as you can go and then back to your body. And you're already in such a deep focus to a state by the time you start this exercise. You know when you're on a roller coaster and you fill your stomach drop, Oh yeah. I started to feel that. I started to
feel oh shit, I'm rising. Oh now I'm falling, And it felt like being on a roller I could feel the energy in my body lifting and I'm getting lighter on the bed and then I'm falling, and then you do it the third time, and I was like, Okay, that wasn't so bad. And then they play about thirty minutes of the frequency, just kind of silent, and they didn't tell you what's gonna happen, and I just
started laying there. I was like, huh, I guess I didn't go out of body, and I'm just kind of there in the focus twelve state. And then I started to see warping like on Star Wars with the or like Stargate with the white lines the white lights, and I was just kind of like, oh shit. And then I just felt like I was completely
out of body and I was in this just nonsensical abstract dimension. Now when I say I was in, I would compare it to DMT, like when you smoke DMT and then you're out and you're you're gone from your body. It was like that I was completely out of my body, not aware of it, and it was this fucked up, whimsical cartoon looking abstract dimension with these weird little characters doing these things. And I was like ah, and I shocked back immediately and I woke up and I was like, uh,
okay, that was stressful. And I was like really quiet for an hour and I went back to class and I was like, we did the debrief and I was like, I think I went out of body and honestly it was really stressful and really scary blah blah blah blah blahlah. And I was just like I didn't expect that it was intro and they were like, yeah, it sounds like you went way too far. And they teach this model where there's layers of dimensions where it's like the first layer is like, oh
look, I'm like Casper. I can walk around in the physical world like Bob started doing that. You could just kind of walk around and see people. Yeah. This girl Hannah shout out Hannah, Hannah, Hannah summer Hill.
She's a manifestation expert and she's also a podcaster and she was there and she went out of body and she was like, I went to France because my sister lives there, but first I stopped by the baguette bakery and went in there, and then I went to see my sister and it was amazing, and I'm like, yeah, I just went to a fucking nonsense town. Yeah, abstract place that was like frightening, and I was just like, what the heck. I didn't expect that, and I was kind of
like scared to go back into the next session. I was really freaked out because it was very real and very stressed, and I just I dove in without fear to the next one. I was like, whatever, I'll just do it without fear. And that actually came to me in the meditation. It was like my higher self came in and it was like, you have to see without fear. I will see you without fear. So that was my affirmation for the rest of the week, I will see without fear.
And it worked, and every time I went out of body after that, anytime I saw something that was scary, I was like, I will see without fear, and I could think about it changing and it would change. Like I saw this thing that kind of looked scaly and looked really weird, and then I thought about it and I was like, nope, I don't like that, and it started turning into stone. Like you could just change things around you when you became conscious of what was happening. One minute,
I was running around like the flash. And then I was like, I want to fly like Superman and I just started flying around and it was it was just really weird. Yeah, So that that was basically that day, day two, and and it was that time when I was like, I will see without fear that it came to me tonight there will be a miracle. Then the drum mcmonocle thing. So let's move on to the next day. Oh, I did see Merlin's temple, by the way, what really,
I mean? Yeah, yeah, I saw a castle on a cliff over the ocean, and in my mind I heard the word Merlin's Temple or Merlin's Castle, and I wrote I was one with the stars in the night sky, like I was a star in the night sky. And my main affirmation was I will see without fear. This was a much more gentle experience. I wrote this down because the first one I wrote, I could feel
tingles in my body as if I was actually rising and falling. I set an intention to see my wife because they're like, see if there's interroed out of body, see if there's anyone who want to go see. So I was like, huh, I asked, I Nazia I was like, what should I do? He's like, try to go see your wife? Like okay, way too far, And I wrote, I would set an attention to see my wife, but instead I went through a portal into a nonsense
sensical world that looked like abstract cartoons and has shocked me back. Going through the portal was literally like d MT. So then for the next one, it came to me that the gift of sight is a burden, like to be able to see things that others can't see as a burden because they don't believe you. They lash out at you, they criticize you, and to a sense, you live in fear. And I asked it, where do I begin? Where? Where do where does my purpose or journey begin?
And I saw Egypt. I saw the pyramids. Then I saw a castle on a cliff over the ocean. I heard Merlin's Temple, and then I felt like I was one with the stars and the night sky. I saw a glowing magical eye, like just a giant eye. It felt like I was seeing my third eye, but it was massive and it was light, and it kind of like blinked at me. And then it said, forget what you know. I was like, oh shit, what does that mean? I don't know. Wow. So then moving on to the next day,
you're gonna like this one. So this is Focus fifteen. Focus fifteen is no time, no space. This state has a dual nature. One experience is a vast blackness, the void, a sense of one pointedness. A second aspect is quite active, allowing one to explore a sense of timelessness, all potentiality in creation of patterns on levels beyond time and space. This is the state of consciousness that is basically transcendental meditation, where the mind is
completely clear of thoughts. People spend their entire life twenty thirty forty years going and meditating by waterfalls and they're like, I will clear my mind, and they're like, I don't want to think. I don't want to think. Day four, listening to the tapes, we got there and I definitely had some out of body experiences in Focus fifteen, but after the first one they
weren't scary anymore. So they say because of this, because you are at such a deep level of meditation where your mind is literally silent, and it's like it's in the void, it's in blackness. You're not having external thoughts. Literally, your perspective of time begins to dissolve to where it could have been five minutes, it could have been three hours. You're not sure you're
content being there. You're like, this is kind of nice. I'm just laying here, I don't even know what time it is, and your mind is just so locked into this void. Because of this, it's the ideal place for manifestation. So they have a whole program where basically they use Focus fifteen for manifestation. And again, the Monro Institute is genius in the way
they package terms and phrase them, so they call it patterning. So you create these patterns in your mind in Focus fifteen that you want to see unfold in your life. So they had us do like a manifestation exercise and just they do free flow where they're like we're gonna get you there and leave you there for an hour and you do whatever you want to do. If you want to talk to your higher self, that's fine. You want to try to go out of body, that's fine. You do whatever you want.
You're gonna free flow. And then the next one might be like, Okay, we're gonna do patterning, and then it's like Okay, present The next session might be like, have five questions for your higher self, write them down, and then when you're in that state, just think in your mind, Okay, I have my questions written down. Can these answers be presented to me? Because what they teach is like, your higher self knows everything. Time doesn't exist, physical space doesn't exist. So all the answers you've
ever needed in your whole life exist outside of time already. You just have to kind of remember them. So you get into this Focused fifteen state, you can kind of speak with your higher self and it's real. They said it's like Zen meditation. The masters zen monks Focus fifteen state. That's what they've spent their whole lives achieving. I'm just writing down other notes. It's beyond time, the nothingness of the mind, like transcendental meditation, silence,
the void. All potential is possible. You can initiate infinite possibilities of being this and opposites are reconciled and merged in this state of consciousness. And they're like, if there's a if there's a problem in your life that you want to find the answer. When you get to Focus fifteen, just think about in your mind. Okay, show me higher self, show me where this problem arose in the past and where it will be resolved in the future.
So I did that exercise, and the problem is personal and I didn't even know the problem. Actually. I was just like, whatever limitation I'm facing in my life, show me when it occurred. And it came to me a real problem in my childhood. That it is personal, but a real problem. And I was like, okay, that's kind of fucked up. It makes sense. Now show me the future where they merge. And I clearly saw it flash in my mind and it was Jenny having our first baby.
And I was like, okay, this makes perfect sense. That's so sweet. Oh yeah, I wrote go to the place where conflicts meet and resolved. I didn't write the problem because I didn't want anybody to read it ever or have the ability to read it. Just in case anyone ever read through this, I said, is there something that happened that created a particular difficulty for me? Take me there so I can resolve it. And it popped up childhood trauma. I didn't write what it was, saw me having
a child. I saw the Oh this is where I saw the Egyptian thing. I saw the Temple of Egypt and felt like I was inside of it and I was fucking there, dude, I was out of body. I was in ancient Egypt. I was in the temple laying like Osyrus, because that's what they did in their funerary rituals. They would lay there and mimic being like the Lord of the underworld. And I saw that it symbolized eternal life, that they would do this to honor that we are immortal beings and
you know, we exist after death. It's a symbolizing death and rebirth, eternal life. I had the sense that they received knowledge and communication from beings in the temple. I requested my uh higher self to take me out of body because Session three it was like you do whatever you want, it's free flow. So I was like, okay, take me out of my body. I want to go out of body again. And it's weird because it's not like, you know, it's not like smoking d MT where you're like,
uh, okay, this HiT's gonna do it and you're out. It's not like that. It's like you kind of lay there for a moment, you think about the meditation, and then you just kind of start dissolving into it and next thing you know, what's happening. You're not. It's not like, let's do it right, It's not like that. It just kind of creeps up on you where things happen in the backyard and lets owe house
hit like that. It's so weird you're having cluster to that, like smirre ling on the inside of it. No, I know, discome I ever done a sord Being a happy