148: The Green Room

Weird things happened in the back. Weird weird, weird welcome that can't be it, okay, because I loved it too. I loved it too much. One. It's kind of crazy. I don't even think it needs to be stated. Why. But there's a lot of people that don't watch video. That's true, so you should say why? Uh why don't why don't you? All right, I'll say what or maybe no no, no, no, no, no, I'm not gonna do it. You should Jinny, No, Nick, I'm not stealing her thunder. Okay, all right,

I'll take the thunder. We are in the green room. Did you happen to tell Jenny about that whole idea that you had? Oh no, no, we I don't think so. Actually, yeah, I'm confirming. No. He was saying that, like, you know, because the Gray's Creek House had the red room, this is the green room. I like that for the Green Boys. Yeah right right, okay, Yes, we're in the new studio. Uh and it's like really bare bones right now. We just kind of like threw together what we could because the house is still

being worked on and stuff. But it is so weird. It honestly feels really amazing recording an air It does alkay, I can see you. You're not on a couch anymore. I still can't really see Alex though, I can't at all. Hey, but that doesn't matter. Alex is here. Though Alex want to say Hi, Hi, everybody, I'm here. We didn't get rid of him with the old studio, right was not over yet. I now sleep in this studio. No one's got to sleep in here

under my desk. Nobody. We've talked about this at a drum setting. Sorry, no, that's okay you. Nick and Jenny are not present for every episode of Full Disclosure. So for the last seven weeks now, Alex and I have been talking a lot about like the renovations. So I guess we can kind of just drive by that real quick on the main show. But we've been working on this house for seven weeks. This is week seven, and we've had the apartment at the same amount of time. We've been

living at the apartment and then working on the new house. We are moving into the new house this week, and we finally have just gutted the old studio. I think we did talk about that aspect of it in the last episode that we were you know, last episode whatever, but it's pretty crazy. Last day it's going. Yeah, and now that we're here in the new studio right off rips setting it up this weekend, we just pulled the trigger and just bought a ton of new fun toys to play with. We're

gonna soup everything up. It's gonna be bad ass. This is kind of like summer school, yeah, you know, because it's like in between yeah, like online class. The teachers don't have their room set up yet, Like they don't have all the pretty stuff all over the walls. Dude, they're still sending you home a piece of paper on the first day of class.

That's like if your parents wouldn't mind donating erasers you remember that. Yes, Shopping spreez always made me so excited though, because I'm like, okay, like what am I to contribute? Like what are we going to get tribute? Right? Exciting shopping for yourself, That's what I got. That's fine talking off brand crayons, yeah, Expo markers, oh yeah. But to me, it feels like the last day of school where the kids go and throw all of the textbooks out of the window and then four molasses in

the teacher's coffee. What and then destroy the bookshelves and tear all the books down. But that was last time. Yeah, we're already done with school. We did that, and I feel you're stuck in high school, bro, floating in space glory days? Can I give you? Can I say my favorite grade? Though? Yeah? My favorite grade was fourth and I have like this like a living meme where like my mom is always like she's stuck in the fourth grade, but it was really really like my favorite grade.

But I have a corener memory from it where you know, some like funky person I don't know, donated Garfield hand sanitizer Garfield, right, okayn't work on mondays. Well that's funny, but no for real, So they donated that, and you know, because you're used to just germs, right, smells good, smells clean. Right before lunchtime, you get a squirt on your hand whatever. The Garfield stuff tasted like lemon tasted excuse me,

let's wrap it up. No, no, no, no, it tastes it's it smelled like, Okay, lemon vomit like is what it smelled like. It smells like the taste of lemon vomit. If you kind of get what I'm saying. I feel like I feel like, to be fair, you say that pretty much everything smells and tastes like vomit, though, so I don't know how much. Maybe this is where it started, but I'm like, who would donate this? Like, as as a parent, I'm not donating that. Okay, I just want to set that straight. Garfield

hand sanitizer coming from the Bledsoe family. Did y'all taste test what you donated? Markers for sure? Crayons? I mean I always ate one. Just make sure you got to. You got to test the pack and make sure they're not toxic, you know, because if they are, then who knows what kid is going to grab one and you don't have that on your hands. No, you can't. You better, you know, you die yourself than to let one of your classmates perish. You want to die yourself?

Blue? No? All right? Why was fourth grade the your favorite? Dude? I just had so much fun that year, I really did. I man, what did we do? This is? This is funny. Mss Hannah was my teacher, okay, but she had so many health issues. It's funny. She was a young woman. She was in her thirties. Yeah, And did I say it was funny? Okay, no,

no, no, I don't mean that, but it was. It was just kind of funny because we never had her as a teacher, I guess, and we always so first of all, she was pregnant, and then she had like an eye surgery problem where she had to stop teaching us in the middle of the year, and our entire class was split into three and

went to all of the other fourth grade classes. So it was just chaos, right, Like the whole second half of the year was like PJ themed parties and like field trips and like we had a whole lot of nothing to do, and you had like a mega classes of like one and a half class. Yeah, because miss Hannah, like I don't know if she delivered her baby, but I know she had a really like severe eye surgery, and like a lot of crazy stuff happened. Can I ask you a real

question, yes, uh, how when you combined classes? How many kids per class you're talking here? She said a third? They split the well total total, so I mean it was probably ten each to like new class, So ten you're talking about ten to a class of thirty. Yeah, yes, so there were four classes total our class was one. We split them up into three other class right, I'm trying to get a total number here of each of the Classes' so mathematical. I don't know, probably thirty

thirty forty eight each class. Yeah, yeah, it was bizarro. It was crazy. And that same year I that was That was the year that my friend had an iPod and we would sneak it to lunch every day and we would listen to Bergie No No, No, Evan Essense and what the one the Christian singer Flyleaf. Yes, the one really really hardcore song. I don't remember, but it was like Screamo. And and then he listened to Avril Lavine. There's a song called Slipped Away, which I listened to

every day and cried and just thought about my grandpa. It was like the only heart, like my dying grandfather. It got dark but all but again like ups and downs in the fourth grade. It was a year for you. Yeah. I think I saw the Jonas brothers that year for my first time, which is really huge. It's just an amazing year of trials and tribulation. Everything happened that year hand Sanitizer. I remember there was Jordan's sparks. Do you guys remember her? Oh yeah, water of American idol?

She sang, wait did she sing that? Tattoos tattoos? Her cousin went to school with me. So the day that Jordan had won, I was walking through you know, the domin area at school seeing her cousin. We were all rooting for jordan'spurks because her cousin went to school with us. That was the year that well maybe that was fifth grade. Whenever girlfriend came out a lavine, I'm showing my age, my young and my age right right, but yeah, I mean nothing too major though. Wow, well I

would love to introduce my wonderful wife. I butted my way onto this episode young and right, Jennifer bloodsoe right. Well, but anyway, so I forced myself onto this episode essentially because I said, I want to be the first guest, like I want the whole band to be together. And y'all, I didn't even realize that Alex won't have a camera this episode. He sacrificed his camera for me, and I feel terrible because I feel like he's

finally I'm a team player. Make sure you twisted before you pull it out? No, no, yeah, but but yeah, I just forced my way on to here, and here we are. We are so happy to have it doesn't feel like an episode because of the room though. All right, that's a wrap. No, it's gonna feel it's gonna feel weird for a little bit, but yeah, we'll get used to it and it's gonna be so awesome whenever it's all finished. It's it's a work in progress.

It's like whenever we first started, like you know, we started like in your living room of your old apartment. This is actually our fourth location because the first time we ever tested and recorded something was that Nick's apartment in back home, and we so we tested, we recorded our trailer there, Yeah, we Nick's apartments vocal trailer, Yes, yes, I forgot about that. And then we were in our old apartment, and then in the new

apartment and then now here. Well we also recorded it Casey's dad's house and at my dad's house. So technically six locations. Well technic, no, I'm kidding. Yeah, that's Enough's that's it. We've been going all over the world, y'all international. That's hilarious. It is really weird. It's like how far we've come, you know, starting at the first apartment and then literally three years until last week in the other apartment, and now we're here and it's like, oh my god, it's this new space, but

it's also like empty. Yeah, it does kind of feel like is this even an episode? Yeah? Yeah, it's gonna feel like this for a little bit, but it'll be short lived and we'll be onto the main stuff. But how have y'all been feeling? This is a huge transformation, Like, you know, y'all are kind of going through it. This also is your house exactly right, Like it's a huge undertaking. You know, it's been insane. I'm just glad to see this room done. You know what

I'm saying. It's been insane. It's been well, not only the house stuff, Like you know, it's been a it's been a year, Like this year's been insane so far. Yeah, I know. One weird thing about growing up is like you're like, okay, no, no, no, like I'll get to that like when things slow down, and then you're like, holy crap, Yeah, when's it gonna slow down? Yeah? Time is so weird. Yeah, I'm kind of learning that now too. It's like you'll have it's almost like seasons. It's like seasons of your life

where things are just like pedal to the metal. You don't get a breath. You just got to grind constantly to achieve whatever you're going after. I mean it could be it could be many things, but and you just in those moments like yearn for like I just want to sit and do nothing thing for an hour, just an hour. And then you finally get that hour and you sit there and do nothing, and you're like, all right,

let's let's get let's get it. What are we doing for me? I'm like, I feel like crap now, I feel like I'm wasting time. I know, I'm like hard on myself. Like if I sit down and relax, I'm like, wow, you're worthless, literally just nothing. And it's like it's like, dang, you got you gotta preserve your sanity something you do. You have to take breaks. Your spirit can't handle that kind of constant I mean maybe some people can. I can't tell you right now.

It ain't me. One day, one thing that's weirded out. Now. I need about four hours every other relaxation and just chill time. Nobody talk to me. I don't want you hitting on my phone, no nothing. I want to sit there and watch TV and do nothing. Yeah, Ryan, like's alone time too. You guys had chaotic childhoods probably guys has siblings and nieces and nephews and and I didn't have a door to my bedroom. Oh rap, Yeah, thats pretty much. See, I'm needy.

I was. It was me when I was little, only child, here playing by myself. So I'm just like I'm ready to go. When someone walks in the room, I'm like, whoa, here we are. Yeah. For the first half of the time we've been together, which is going on eleven years, she would never even let me like nap or sleep you mean nap sleep. She would shake you in. She would never let me nap or I never let my mother nap back when I was younger. That ticked me off when she said it was nap time. I'm like, hold

up, who am I going to play with? Right? I don't like me time, guys, But I will say, like, as I've gotten older, like me times. Fine. It's one of those things where it's like I'm not going to ask for me time, but when I get it, it's like, okay, this is fun. So as you're like what is your social battery? Like are you do you feel like your social battery

gets recharged around people or does it get recharged by yourself? Because that's like technically that's what they're kind of using these days to delineate between an extrovert and an introvert. Like if you're actually no idea, really you don't even have

a social battery? Is she's like she is no thing is like if I'm alone too long, I'll start to get like really really like really stir crazy, well stir crazy, but more so just like very too content with like being alone, and then like I'll have a threshold where it's like, okay, I'm around people again, that's annoying because like I'm alone and I'm used to being alone now, and then people come and I'm just like Okay, I have to get over a threshold of like being annoyed by people first and

then I'll like have fun. So it's like going down to my like social like to where I'm lonely is like not really like the best place for me because I have to kind of crawl out of there. Yeah you know what I'm saying. So I just like to be stimulated all the time. Yeah, yeah, very much. That's I can't relate. I'm like kind of the opposite. I'm like, like I like being social and I like being around people. And when I'm around people, I can like I have a

lot of fun and like it's cool and whatever. But if if there's not like a day in the week or a couple of days in the week where I can just like go into my little like Heidi hole and sit at my desk and like just play music with headphones on or something, yeah, I will start to go pretty insane. Yeah that's how I been feeling in the last seven weeks. Really, I've had one little stretch of a few hours to myself in like seven weeks. So what about you? Do you feel

like you're like you recharge getting some a long time. I mean, it don't even got to be alone time. It's just got to be like, let me do what the hell I want to do. I want to do the things that I enjoy doing. You can sit with me, we can be together. I just I have to do things that I want to do. I can't constantly be devoted to doing other things for other people that I have to do. You know, Like I'm like I want to do my

hobbies. I want to. I want to if I want to research, you know, esoteric style for play video games or you know, play drums or whatever. I get recharged by doing the things that I enjoy doing, you know what I mean. It's not about like being alone for me. No. Yeah. Yeah. The thing that's scary for me is something that I'm kind of like starting to learn is when I do get in those spaces where I haven't been able to like go and recharge and whatever, it starts

like kind of fucking up my psychology. Like my brain starts being like it gets dark. I think that's when I don't know, maybe that's when like my depression kind of rears its head a little bit. Yeah, you know, it's just so that's kind of like what I'm saying, Like I'm not saying I get like into you know, I don't get too too deep, but it's like if I get a second it causes you to like really overthink and think too much and then panic. I feel it for me anyway,

No, I kind of feel that. I think I do a fair amount of that. And I was just talking to somebody today about shadow work. Do y'all know much about that a little bit. It's like a Jungian thing, right, Yeah he did. He kind of like pioneer that or discover it, or I know he wrote extensively about it. I'm not sure he. I mean he came up with the idea of like the shadow, you know, which, yeah, as I understand, it is like the parts of yourself that you don't like, or it's like, I just think,

Peter Pan, do you think it was based off of that? For real? No? I don't, no, no, No, there's got to be something esoteric. Okay, well, Peter Pan. Everyone knows it's Pan. Uh, you know, the creepy guy with the right. But why did Peter Pan? What was that whole thing about with his shadow and stuff? Remember he his shadow got loose and then he had to retie it back onto himself. Yeah, I feel like was that about a shadow person? Like stitch your shadow to your heel thing? That's what he did? Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, I mean I feel like that's have we done up Peter Pan episode? No? We haven't. We're sucking up. We need to We need to get right now. Switch up. I looked up the shadow and it's just the various personified structures to interact with one another in our inner world. Oh, that's the model of the psyche. There were four parts of the psyche, the anima or the animus, which is like you know Assassin's creed, the persona, the shadow, and then I guess the

ego. Yeah, as I understand it this, I learned that in communication class, the shadow is the hidden and repressed, most inferior part and guilt laden aspect of the personality, like your dark side, you know, the part that you're repressing that you don't like about yourself that makes you feel guilt or remorse or shame. Yeah, I should probably say. Also, it was Danny who I was talking to. Shout out Danny, she's in our discord. Oh nice, yeah nice. She was telling me all about like

shadow work and stuff. Oh nice, which I don't know if that seems cool. I don't really know much about it. I've heard about it, And so what is shadow work? Is it pulling that side out of you so you can accept it or what is it? I think? I mean, I looked into it just briefly today and I think it's like, so

there are like journals like shadow work journals, that you can do. And I think it's like a way of through like meditation and journaling and self reflection, like identifying those those characteristics of your shadow that you're not happy with or aren't serving you in some kind of way, and it's a way to like air those things out and put a face to them so that you can come address I don't know if Emily might have talked about this on her show,

but I did a practice called ischara, which is like a body movement practice and it is linked to like spirituality, following your tuition intuition. It's very like a spiritual practice that allows you to kind of use intuition to move emotion through your body and let it out through movement and your body like that way you're kind of treating it, and it's directed directly correlated with your nervous system and like actually because you feel things through your body first and then your brain

processes it. And your body is also something it's a being that has your mind is what is damaging. Essentially, your body has never done anything wrong to you other than allow you to stand, allow you to feel, allow

you to see it, heals your your wounds. You know what I'm saying, so, your actual body is just a very very how I see it is just like a little tiny baby unicorn or something, you know, It's just like it's just a sweet little being that you need to nurture and take care of, right, And so through these body movement courses, we learn to move parts of ourselves that are really good at like allowing you to deflect emotion, and then parts of you like that are very strong and it makes

you deflect emotion. And then the other side is a movement that you're very sensitive for or feels very unfamiliar to you. So once you move those, essentially you're supposed to just become more familiar with the different parts of your spirit and the different attitudes and that sort of thing. So that kind of reminds me of what we were taught to like move our like moving our shadow people is kind of how I see that. I know that sounds very niffy.

Oh it doesn't know, doesn't sound crazy. It's like intentional. Right. So for example, like one of my it sounds like a form of energy work. It sounds like a distant cousin to yoga. It's the same principle that energy can flow through the body. Yes, so like mine, one of mine was like good girl, the good girl. So like forever in my life, something that I've always just used to cope, right, or to deal with emotion or just in my lifestyle or way of life was just

like I was always honestly the good girl. Like only child, all I had to do was focus on schoolwork, like so I always got a's, I always listened to my teachers because I was around adults like my whole life, you know, as an only child, I was just hanging out with my parents' friends, like you know, right, and so like I would move to good Girl, and it would just allow you to I don't know, it allows you to just kind of feel that energy through your body and

like essentially just do the movements that feel intuitively good to you and it helps, I don't know, and it really does. Like there have been times where I've been in stressful situations or like I was just feeling stressed in the moment at a restaurant and I would literally go into a bathroom stall and just like do some intuitive movements that feel really nice to me, and then I'd be like, Okay, wow, I'm good, like shake it off. Type thing. You know. That's cool. That's so that's just what that

brought me back to. I don't know, it made me think about, well, it sounds it sounds like it's adjacent like to the same thing. Like what we're kind of like beating around is like energy work shadow work that it sounds like what you're talking about is a way of kind of like getting to your brain through your body, like exactly. Yeah, it's like starting with the body and hoping the brain will follow suit. Like yes, like

that kind of thing. Exactly. It's funny that we're like kind of like organically talking about this because it's just something that I've been thinking about a lot lately, like energy work like in the body or just in general, I mean in general, but it you know, relates to the body. You feel your feelings in your body. You know, you feel like when I don't know when I feel heavy or stressed or like sad or upset, like I feel it in my chest for sure. It's a heavy weight on my

chest. And this thing that I've been trying lately is like because I read basically, so there was a brief moment where I was like just doing some odd jobs like back in like December January. And I don't even know if I told you about this. This is so bizarre. This These are like a bunch of rough, tough, you know, dudes that work in a warehouse, right that I was working with. And one day this like just skinny, little like fifty year old, bald, smiley guy walks up to

me and introduces himself. He was just like a freaking ray of sunshine among all of these like sounds like gandhi. Well that's it's funny you say that, because he just starts spitting to me about like yogi's and gurus and like collective consciousness and like energy work and all this stuff. And I was like, he didn't even know I had a show that's about all of this stuff. He just started. He just like it was like he saw me and

just knew and he just started. And everybody around. I could hear the guys around kind of like you know, gigglingnock in front of the guy or whatever. But we were just like locked in talking about it. And he was like, hey, give me a second, I'll be right back, And he went to his car and he brought me back a copy of this book that is called it's called it might be like Diary of a Yogi, Autobiography of a Yogi. Yeah, Autobiography of a yoga para Nanda. Yeah,

yeah, I've read one of his books. He brought me that book he's considered, like you know, yeah, yeah. Well he explained to me that, like the reason this guy was such a big deal is because he's like one of the few enlightened masters who wrote everything himself as he was going through his awakening. So like everything that's recorded, his books and all that are like literally him, like it's not people around him writing about him

or whatever, like he's writing it. And I started reading some of it, and some of it was about like energy work and how we're not we don't we don't grow up thinking that we can actually control or influence our emotions aka our energy. But that's like completely untrue, and we actually can, and that's all part of it. They're hiding that from us, that we

have powers. I think we all do have powers. My God, listen, not like superpower he he oh, I mean yeah, I know what you mean it, but it kind of is like they kind of our superpowers, Like if you really tap into some of this stuff like imagine being able to at will control the way that you feel. Like, well, do

you think that? So let's say this world was like a million times beer than it was today, and each of us got our own like I have no idea size, but like a million or like whatever, just like the most peaceful place and we meditated every single day and we didn't talk to one another, and all we did was connect with nature. Do you think that we like what if what if we could start and like develop powers? Like

do you think that we could do you think without all these distractions? Yeah, there are there are like monks who have devoted their lives to meditation, who like can just like set stuff on fire with their hands like that. There's videos of it, like Rescrusians teach it. Yeah, like that, there's there's real there's real like superpower. I mean, think about like astral

projection, right, that's a superpower. They really think about it. You're casting your soul out of your body, and the same with remote viewing. His smile concept. You know, you know I first learned about that through the Insidious movie. Really that was the first That's why I love that movie. That was the first ever horror movie I saw was Insidious, so like even though like back in the day, like you know, it could be a corny movie whatever, but back in the day, it's a great movie.

I was like, I loved that movie because I was like, that's such a cool like thing to think about. And then like I grow up and then I meet the blood SOEs and then they're all like, oh, yeah, like that's a thing, and I'm like, what, that's not insidious. There's like astral projection and stuff. Yeah, it's the main point, the main theme. It's the main theme of the movie is the child has a demon attached to him and he's like literally stuck in the astral world.

He's in a coma, but they don't know he a demon attached to him. He's just in a call min and he's really sick. And I think they get in touch, like the parents, they get in touch with like this psychic or something. It's been many years since she's like renowned, like she's like this stuff and she starts and they call it the Further. They don't call it the astral world, but they do call it the astral

world. They do. They thought they call it. No, I knew it was astral projection because they actually say astral and the father like literally like astral projects and goes and finds his son in the astral world and goes into the layer of the demon and like rescues his son. I feel like that, that's so cool. It was out there when it came out. I'm pretty sure you've like explained this to me on an episode of the premise. That's such a cool premise. It was really out there, kind of liked

movie. That was the one, don't you remember they had tiny tim in it, the tiptoe by the way, the one with the red face. Yeah, mirror, Yes, Like, here's the thing. It's not that corny because you only see that face like twice in the whole movie, and it's like for like two seconds. It's not like a corner thing where he's like, ah, I'm a monster and he's like ugly. The brilliance of

the movies is not anything to do with the demon at all. Actually, the demons the lamest part, and it's okay, what's so cool about the movie is that while they're all in the waking state, a lot of the little scary moments are things interacting with them from the astral world, like came from the astral world, right, and then you find out in the second movie most of it was the Dad and the future in the astral world spoiler alert, interacting with the past, so it's like whoa, oh yeah.

And then the third movie was when it kind of was like what yeah, the third everything past the second is a spin off, right, more than one past the second one, Dude, there's like four or five. Yeah, we stopped watching it. We were really into like, okay, the first one, the second one, cool, whatever, and then it was first and second or like whoa, amazing. Yeah. Most movie series don't

even make it past like the first one. So but anyway, I would saying all that just to say that, like just getting back to the energy work thing, just after reading a little bit of that book, not even really understanding what I read, by the way, just kind of like intuiting, like just trying something from the little bit that I read. If since then, if I find myself in like like kind of slip it into a dark place or whatever, I will like consciously try and shift my energy and

sometimes it works. Yeah, I don't know how to do it like the right way. I don't where do you shift it to, like do you

kind of like imagine it going like a light going somewhere. I know some people will do that, or like how do you actually I So I feel the heavy stuff in my chest, like the heavy dark stuff in my chest, and whenever I imagine it, I kind of imagine it just kind of going up and out, like it feels like it goes up past my shoulders and just kind of like like leaves my body and where it was feels like

warm and almost like light, like lighter. You know. It's it's it's hard to explain, but I can't, like I can't like do it every time, you know. And so that's why I'm getting I'm like really getting curious about energy work. There's a bunch of different visualization methods. There's one

method that I thought was really cool. That's like you imagine like a three D merkaba, right, and that's like you have like a pyramid shape pointing up a pyramid shape pointing down, but they intersect and it makes the mercaba. Yeah, And you imagine the top part of it spinning clockwise, and you imagine the bottom part of it spinning counterclockwise, and then you imagine like there's like a vertical pole going through it. You could imagine it as your

chakras. You could imagine it as a beam of white light, and you imagine light going up and down the pole. The idea is you're like stretching the limitations of what you can visualize, right. I was going to say, like I was trying to visualize, and I was like, that's kind of difficult, exactly. That's the point. The point, yes. And then another one that I read from the Gnostic method is you imagine like an infinite pedaled lotus spinning clockwise, and each pedal is a multitude of infinite rainbow

colors of white. The idea is to visualize this these insane you know, it's like Buddhists were staring at mandalas and meditating, you know what I mean, Like there's oh I didn't know that. That's what those were. Four it's a meditative at them, you really well, and also the creation of them, like right while they knew that or something that works for me. I just think of Alex smiling at me. How often does that work every

time? Yeah? But what I was gonna what I was thinking, though, Nick, is like the first step though, is honestly just awareness and the fact that I think you're focusing so much of your energy on that. I mean, it's that's that's the first step into like your intuition propelling you towards it. Yeah. Yeah, I find I have to I have to try to focus on things like that. If I don't put any effort into like trying to recognize it or identify it, I'll just never really well,

the tide just pulls you under. Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly, I'll never notice it. I have to actually try, like actively reflect, not just like it doesn't happen passively for me, right, I have to like put effort into trying to do it, and so I don't know, it works sometimes, it doesn't work other times. But the whole point is like you have those moments in life where you feel like you are on ten, everything feels perfectly lined up and you're like you could take the fucking world down,

like you're everything is amazing. And I feel like when you're in those points, like you're the best you can be for the people around you. You're you're the best friend that you can be to people. You're you know, and like the most productive the most. Yeah, you're getting the most done and all this stuff, and you know, I just want to be

able to. I want to. I want to put effort, active effort into like lining myself up that way, you know, just like bringing things back to the center, like identifying the troubles, identifying the issues, and like working on it. Something Emily has been really into for the last year or two is grounding walking out barefoot, and I do. I do a lot of that. We we go on walks. I mean, it's been so nice, like going walking around our new place is beautiful and you know,

it's finally summer again. Oh my god. I felt like this winter would never end. Yeah it was. Yeah, well it's not summer's spring, but you know what I mean, it's hot. It's hot. Yeah, it's finally the sun is out again. So we've been going outside and

standing in the grass and soaking in the sun. That does help. I'm allergic to grass, so I always tell Emily, well, but I'm like really allergic to grass, and it gets like really So I was telling Emily, I'm like, if I can't stand barefoot outside, and she was like, well, if you do it more than you'll be immune to it. But I'm like, it's hard to get over that hump though, Yeah, it is so hard. You want to know something too, that was embarrassing.

We sat down, you remember that eclipse that just happened. We all sat down in the grass, and I was like, ooh, like lovely awesome. I stand up and I'm like, oh, my goodness, my tushie feels a little itchy. Now turns out I had the big hole in my pants. Oh no, eclipse, and they must have ripped at some point. You were grounding. It was itchy because of all the inn energy coming up the grass. Yeah, grass I set in the fire ant. Oh I was a little kid. No, how was that? I'm pretty

sure I'm I'm immune to fire ants now. Oh good, good, positive came out of it. Yeah. My dad was chasing me around, spanking me. Okay, he was trying to kill the fire ants. But he's very traumatic for me. This is why he loves pain. How many how many bites do you think you had realistically? I mean realistically thirty forty? No, like I got fire ant bites. Yeah, did you like throw up or anything from that? I know sometimes people I was too little to

throw in the pool. My dad was cleaning the pool. I was outside. I sat in the fire ants. He could have just thrown me in the pool, but I don't think I could swim as the time. Let's let's finally admit that the real reason that we do this show and have done one hundred and forty eight episodes in hopes to understand Alex someday. Oh, that's been the whole secret. That's the secret motive. And we got one hundred and forty eight more, and we'll we'll check on the progress there.

If you think about three hundred, you figure it out. I don't know, man, you're complex. That's about ten percent. You need to do the Alex episode part two at some point. Interview style, all right, Jenny, fine, I'll pay you for he's he's been begging to do that, by the I know, I toldy I'll give her twenty dollars if she mentioned stop. No, he didn't know, he didn't. I think that'd be fun. Yeah, I'm always a little bit more. I'm always trying

to understand Alex more. I don't always gives some tarot readings, and like every time we're like it's true, we are always shocked because it's the stuff that we all know that he's not listening to. He's always he's historically been Casey's like biggest tarot fan patient patient, her patient, Yeah, her client. Yeah yeah. Well has it worked, Alex? What do you mean? I'm doing great? I'm always doing great. It's literally going to be

the biggest party of the year, Alex's wedding this year. I have thought so much about that day about to probably thought about it more than I have. I have terrible Alex a lot more. What do you mean it's terrible? I don't think it's not that I don't less, I don't listen though we all know that she don't listen to me. I mean it goes both ways kind of. I'm just you know, I love her a lot. I just don't think about my wedding all the time. It's okay. I

got other things going on, like right now. No, that's a good point, man. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I even the present, I think about it a lot because I'm rehearsing it in my head. What am I going to say? What am I going to say? What am I say? Yes, dude, you got the easy job. I got a kiss her in front of like three hundred people. Everybody out there is just in shock at how backwards that was. You have to

kiss your wife and he has to officiate the entire wedding. Yeah, it's I think you got a little backwards there, buddy, in front of like three hundred people. But you know what, I'm working. You're partying, You're gonna do great. We're all part You're gonna do great. You're gonna do great, Alex, I hope. So. I believe in you, and I'm scared to dance once you're in that since win believe it or not. But I don't really like to be the center of attention. Yeah,

that's the biggest lie you've ever told. I love you so much. I have what he's saying, man, and it's I just want to party. But now I got to dance in front of everybody. There. It is there is in front of everything, and I gotta get my moves critiqued, like in front of everybody. You know, there's gonna be pictures forever. You're the star of that. I no, it's Olivia's wedding featuring me. Yeah, you know, bro Bs is gonna roll up on your turf and

we're gonna steal the show. Baby, this is Alex's night. Hey, Hey, we're gonna set up a pop up and do an episode from his wedding. Uh huh, and we'll get his dad on. Yes, that's gonna happen. That's gonna happen. I'm gonna stay tuned. Will be Father's Day twenty twenty four. I'm gonna do a little role reversal. I'm gonna whoop my dad. Wow, you know, spank his ant bitten bottom. Yeah, wow, get him back. What's happening right now? Well,

I wanted to show you something. You brought up autobiography of a yogi, and that struck me because I wanted to show you I actually have read one of his books Para Mohanda Yoga Nanda. Yeah, that's him. Let me see it. If you don't show me, I won't have believed you at all. Okay, now I believe you. I won't have believed you at all. What was it called for the people out there harmonizing physical, mental, and spiritual methods of healing, which was about like energy work, and

so how did you grow from that? Oh? It was just like a tiny little pamphlet. Honestly, it wasn't like a full sized book or anything. It was. It was just a bunch of bullet points of a lecture he was giving about like prayer and faith in God can actually heal you from the inside out. Yeah, this is though, Yeah, yeah, very quick read. Yeah No, I'm going to finish that book at some point because even the tiny bit that I read was really profound and has already been

Well, let me ask you this. So it all stems from intention then, right, because if we're thinking about God, God could mean something different to everyone. Yeah, and they're harmonizing with their understanding of God. Is it just because there's intention that's going to where that's why that works? Or what if somebody is thinking about a slightly I mean, nobody really knows knows what God is. Everyone has an interpretation. Yeah, but it's your heart.

It's all your heart. So you think that people have to kind of focus in on that specific thing to like really benefit from it, or well, I don't know in my very limited opinion and understanding, it's like, yeah, if your heart is reaching out to the thing that all other hearts are connected to, then that's like the core essence of life and healing and

growth and light like that's what it's all about. That's the core. Right, So it's like whatever your understanding is of that infinite love or infinite light, you know. And yeah, everybody has different views of God. But it's it's interesting because I've met I've met Christians who I feel like know the real God. I've met Christians who I feel like do not know the real God. I've met Muslims the real God meaning like love like meaning or me

or your interpretation of God. No, no, no meaning like I will never claim to know exactly what the real God is. But to me, the real God is like conditionless love and compassion and light and like the connectedness of all things, transcendent and ineffable. Yes, absolutely, which is how do you say his name? Yoga Nanda? Right, that's his idea of

God is like the esotery view of God. You know, you hear somebody talk about God in that way versus you hear somebody talk about God with like rigid rules and judgment and stuff, and it's like, I think your heart knows, like which one is real? Oh yeah, well it's so funny because and I hate I don't want to even get on this tangent, but I'm getting on it. On it. God is not a tangent. That's my favorite subject. No, the tangent of church. Right, So,

whenever I was younger, VBS a vacation Bible School that was poppin'. Oh yeah, I was right, I will listen. You know, I was in one of those tints, like they had a big tint and we role played that we were in the belly of the whale with Noah Jonah's whale and we were in there and that was fun, right, Like we even little little campfire in there, like there was some silly stuff going on at BBS. But then it came down for Sunday church. That stuff was terrible.

And you know what, I have a serious you know, I have a negative connotation with church because whenever I was whenever I lived in Alaska, we had gone to a Catholic church because my mother had never right alex Wu anyway, I was born, my mother is German, I was born a Catholic, I got christened, I did all of that stuff. So I made it to the age where it was time for my first communion. So we had gone to that church, and that was a church that I did my

first communion at all that stuff. But I swear to God, this church had a habit of never keeping us in the loop. So my mom would literally drop me off for like Sunday school church and there'd be nobody there, and I would be roaming the church because my mom would just drop me off at the front. She wasn't gonna bring me to the class. So my mom dropped me off at the front. She's like bye. I'm like bye, I go inside the church. Not a single soul and I'm walking around

like it was terrible. It was really terrible because it was before cell phones, you know, so I eventually like had to find I was looking and looking and sure maybe there'd be somebody in the back or something and I'd be like hello, my mother helped me. Yeah, that happened several times at that church. Oh my god, it's like home alone five. It really was. Shees Man, Yeah, that's a church experience. I'm not thinking everybody got raptured and she's a sinner who got left behind. Oh I didn't

even know that left behind? You remember those movies I do? What is that yo? Left behind? Was Kirk Cameron. Dude, those movies were wild. It was like it was like movies based on like it was like about the Rapture and like the people who got left behind in the Rapture were they like it was like a drama series. Wit? Wait, were they like all like fiends and stuff? I mean some characters for sure, Like I mean some of them were just struggling with their faith and stuff. Yeah.

Yeah, it was a broad array of folks who were left because sins, they're all the same exactly. Know what talk about crazy bro, talk about how time flies. You remember growing up believing in the Rapture? Oh, oh my god, absolutely, dude. I had dreams, nightmares about the Rapture. I remember it. And then you were going up and then you started falling down. You never heard the rapture right now? You don't know. I know, before Ryan, I had never heard of the Rapture.

I remember. I remember when Ryan had first told me about it and was like, but everything will be great, and like Jesus will be here and it would be great. Not not saying like that exposed conversations. No, no, no, no, Ryan, it wasn't about you. I was just saying that, like what you were saying the interpretation was, but that it would be a better place because whatever Jesus would be, and I would just be like, that sounds terrible rapture to happen, Like I want

things to stay normal because I'm having fun. And that tells you something right there, Because if all of these other people in church are talking about this like it's the most beautiful thing that's ever gonna happen, Yeah, it's gonna be great, and in your heart you're terrified of it. Girl is telling you something. When we first got together, she literally knew nothing about the Bible. Nothing, And that's that's expected of Catholic people, I mean,

and that sounds like an insult. No, it does. Where's the light? Yeah, where's the light? There's none. But it was never just one of those things where you know, oh, you know, I'd rather be listening to Kelly Clarkson, you know, back in the day than read my Bible. So I was watching Mulan Kelly Clarkson playing battery, I was wafers drinking wine, right right, That's what I'm exactly. And Catholicism is not encouraged to like study your Bible. You just had the list of yeah,

exactly. In the Pentecostal church. It's like I read the Bible forty times this year. Yeah, it's like you're going to hell if you don't read the Bible. Yeah, it's like you you are supposed to read it as much as you can. And and I just was shocked at the lack of knowledge that she had. She didn't even know who no it was, you know, I mean hot take This is just my opinion, but like maybe it's by design, you know which part like they don't like you know,

oh yeah, yeah, the machine we got. You don't don't read that, just listen to us, Like, don't worry about reading it for yourself, Like that's boring, We'll read it to you. Yeah. But then the flips, it is like you need to know this inside and out and take it literally. Both are terrible. The first time that I realized I didn't know a lot about the Bible was when I went to my first and only church camp. That was like it was like five seven day wait

was it? How long was it? I think it was a week long thing where we had gone to It was a beach called Caswell. They had a fort there and everything, and it was kind of like the church at least around here, like the church camp that everyone kind of like had known about. So it's like a big deal. I was going to Caswell and

then here I am. I'm like all right, like let's have some fun, right, And then there's like the morning classes where they're doing hot takes and quizzes on all of this stuff, and I'm like, oh, rats, I don't know anything. I don't know. I don't know who this guy is. What are we talking about? And all these guys are like raising their hands answering questions, and I'm like, hotly I know. I'm like I don't know David, Jeremy and stuff. Jeremy, isn't this such

a wonderful balance for me, like my soulmate? Like I'm like studying this ship like with a fire in my mind to figure it out. And she's like, Jeremy's from the Bible, Yeah, David and Jeremy. Jeremy was the Giant, right, Yeah, we're no, that was the Giant's brother. So when we first got together, I really felt like I don't know. I just I like talking about that stuff anyway, And back then I

still was Pentecostal, so I was explaining the rapture. Explaining all this stuff, dude, was a Bible study I had in yours hanging out with and I'm like, I'm pretty embarrassed about that stuff. I'm pretty embarrassed that I like, No, it's part of your transformation, dude. Yeah, that's true. I mean all of it, really believing it. No, no, no, just being so like you got to know this stuff, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, yeah, I mean a passionate person.

Yeah, that's how That's how Pentecostals are, right, That's how you are supposed to. It's like your one duty in life is to like preach the gospel what do they call it? Testify? Yeah? But Ryan, you very much had a very like normal social life though, Like you went and saw the movies, you went and played with you know, swords, and that plagued my mind in the front yard. That was that was why

I felt like I never swords meaning lightsabers. Yeah, no aggression, right, No, we would play with light lightsabers stuff when we were kids. No, but that was like, if we're going to be candid here, you know about transformation. That was the one reason why I never felt like I could be filled with the Holy Ghost like Pentecostas are because I was into the world culture. Yeah, and I always felt like it held me back. But like I always, I also always felt like I had to be

who I really was and I couldn't. I tried. I tried to deny that part of myself and I was miserable. But look at you now, like you're the most spirit that you've ever been, I think, I would say. And you also still really love your movies. Yeah that's true. You're eating you know, you got both sides. Yeah, fun, it's good. Now. I think you've made it here because you were there, right, Yeah. Yeah, you wouldn't be here unless you went through that

stuff. Yeah, that's true, you wouldn't. That's part of your story. Yeah, and it was important and you shouldn't be embarrassed by it. Let that judgment go. That was another life. I used to be teaching about the rapture, like I don't know, man, like you know, because here I am a young girl in love and I'm like, but I just want to be with you, and he's like, well, you know, like if the rapture comes and so and so, and I'm like, but you know, I just I just want to hang out with you and

be here forever and you know, live a normal life. And it's like, Wow, I had no clue that this was going to turn into like this kind of conversation. You never know where this when we don't have a topic, you never know where this is. I'm going to bring something up,

but you go first. Well, for one hundred and forty eight plus episodes, I've been pretty freaking clear that I used to be a Pentecostal, and that's kind of like, I think that's kind of what makes our story so profound as a family, because we were Pentecostal, which is like literally one of the most insane forms of Christianity, and it took seeing the beings and the phenomenon and all this to like rip us out of it. I

mean, but you understand that like this is and this is not. This is no real judgment though against people that are Pentecostal, and there are people out there, including Ryan's family, that do believe it's very right and very real. And I don't think only right. I don't think that they have ill intentioned but it's the way they've been taught. I'm not trying to insult

Pentecostal people. But whenever you say, oh, I was really religious, they'll be like okay, and then you say, yeah, I was part of the Pentecostal church, like oh okay, oh geez right, Like so like it just goes to you're one of the ancient fricking mafia families of religious you know what I mean. But that's that's you know, Pentecosta told that, like your family like kind of start. No, that's that's true. Yeah, what our ancestors actually did start the Pentecostal movement. That's why my

family is so into it. It's the D's book. Wow. Yeah, yeah, Well what else I was going to say? I was going to kind of switch it up. You guys had recently had a chat on the discord, a community chat, and somebody was talking about some different kind of astrology. What was it, Yeah, sidereal sidereal yeah, or true Sky. And the reason I wanted to bring it up is because I'll let them

explain it in a second. But there was this whole thing about how this actually follows, you know, the stars in the sky and it's the actual astrology. And my whole entire life, I have been a proud Capricorn whoop, whoop, proud, And honestly, my mom had always bought me things with little goats on it, like literally my whole life because my mom is also a Capricorn, so we take pride in it, and I think I'm

also very Capricorn. And then Ryan does my chart in this Siberian Siberian and all of a sudden, I'm as Sagittarius, and I'm not going to accept it because I was like, Ryan and I are perfect together, right, he is fire, I am Earth like I'm gonna right like grounding, and then all of a sudden, I'm Sagittarius too. There's no way I'm fire. Well, no way. The idea is that both are true, both are supposed to be. Yeah, but that's just too much. Well,

you gotta humble yourself to the forces of the universe. You're denying the fire is the most fire thing of you know what I'm saying, right right right, Yeah, So anyway, I thought that was interesting, But explain a little bit about the Siberial I'm serious, Siberial Siberial astrology. I guess the concept is, like, so your traditional zodiac is, you know, it's

according to how the sky was when that system was created, correct. Yeah, the sidereal is like they're like, no, this is actually where the stars are when you were born. Sidereal takes into account, like where the sky was when you were born, so not like not take your birthday and compare it to a chart that was made thousands of years ago how the sky was back then, which is which is what traditional zodiac is. This sidereal thing is like, no, where were the because the sky changes. Wait,

but that's so annoying. I thought that real astrology wastr well not real astrology Western. Yeah, was was tracking that. It's just based on one chart. Yeah chart, the original zodiac chart that they created thousands days ago. I mean, whatever community created the zone? Do you guys know? But two, Oh it's Mesopotamians. It's the Mesopotamians. I thought they maybe

started that or something. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but yeah, if there's two different like if there were two different groups or there are many, there are many that you know, they weren't the only ones that did it, Like the Greeks had their own brand of it. Everybody kind of had their owns. Yeah, all the Egyptians. Yeah, but I mean the one that like is popular today. How you know what's your sign?

That whole thing, like that's traditional zodiac, Like that's based off of a chart that's thousands of years old, and like, you know, we've talked at length about astrology on the show, and I've always said that my whole understanding of like if you wanted to get scientific with how it works or why it works, is it's like the exact moment that you emerge into consciousness in this realm, all of the different celestial bodies and the planets and their

specific alignment. That matters because those massive objects in space are emitting inner huge vibration. Vibration, yeah, like huge, and so you emerging into this realm, everybody is different because they're getting a different blend of all of those things. Right, So that wouldn't make sense according to traditional astrology, because that's based off that's thousands of years old. This is based off of the day that you were born, the moment that you were born. It makes

more sense to me. I don't know, it does make sense. It does because that's what I thought the real stuff was. So I'm a tourist, baby, let's go and I see it. I don't really get that either or maybe we've just convinced each other of our personalities all along. I don't know. I mean, I felt like pretty confused because with the Sideial, it's like some of them say I'm Leo and then some of them say I'm Cancer. Yeah, well you well I could see a little bit of

that. I don't know enough about cancer. Cancer is just known for it's water, it's emotions, it's very Why do you think I'm not a Taurus? I don't know. I just probably because you're not like the Tauruses. I know, but maybe they're not really But that's but yeah, but I mean that this questions everything very stubborn, stern and very I don't know, they're just they're just very stern and hard energy. Someone ever said, I'm

not stubborn. No, but but to me, you're more like a not like a that's accurate, Alex. Don't look at me like that, dude. She's right, what is Alex? What are you? You're a Virgo. See, that's that's it. But according to Siderial, he's Leo. I don't see that. I'm not. To me, I've got a Leo moon in the sidereal my moon was Leo and my rising was it was Taurus,

oh a rising? Oh do you remember yours? No? It was like, oh yeah, it was it was Leo or cancer sun, it was cracking, it was Pisce's moon, and I think it was Sagittarius rising. Okay, see, yeah, that's very interesting because you're actually a Capricorn rising according to the yes and Western astrologers. Step your game up. We know the truth. Now do you remember mine? Though? I don't. Don't you look it up. I make Ryan do all the research. I'm

trying to remember mine. I can't remember everybody. This is the problem with me. I feel like I've let my intelligence dull ever since I've gotten into a relationship with Ryan, because Ryan has just been my living and walking encyclopedias. I'm just like, I'll just ask Ryan ten years now. Yeah right, I'm worried. I just feel like I've dumped it all out. And then like sometimes I get really smart, like if I focus, like sometimes I sound pretty smart. And then most of the time, like I make

Ryan finish my stories. I make Ryan talk about a movie, I make him describe things. Well, it sounds to me like you just let him hit freaking home runs right out of his wheelhouse. Yeah, you are all open and he is just slammed dunking the ball. Yeah, but I don't gloves, but I don't. I don't really hear you going, Hey, Ryan, organize my schedule. Hey Ryan, you know what's the description for the podcast episode? Actually, because you're here, it's me that does come

up with those. Well, Ryan, this is the thing, because we have to get into our system, don't we. Boys were after the fact we debrief. We have really gotten into a good been sending messages every time I've been seeing some what's happening? Oh shoes is episode? Okay? Oh well see right now for this one. Okay, we'll keep it going. So what they do is they give me keywords and then I just write, you know, I do the template and then I insert the keywords as it

makes sense. Yeah right, yeah. But see here's the thing. It's like, you do actually give me big fiery meteor home runs to just knock out of the park. But then I'm like, hey, let me tell you guys what happened. You're like, no, no, no, let me tell it. But then I immediately go, no, no, let me go, And then I'll start talking and I'll say, okay, Ryan, actually take it over. I'm getting no no, no, no, no, no, let me say it. Everybody listen to me, and

then you'll go. I forgot what I was going to say. I just think that some people are natural storytellers. That's what I'm saying. I used to be such a good storyteller back in the day. You need to work that also out do it for you. I know, I know you're right. You need to practice in front of the mirror. And oh wait, but that's another reason the fourth grade was great. Okay, I'm with you really. So back in the day, I lived in Florida in the fourth

grade, so my final exams were f cats. Okay here and in not America against it was called the Florida cat something there so f cat and so that was the first year and it was probably the same in North Carolina that you had to do a writing assessment in in your final EOGs cats fourth grade. In the fourth grade, I had to do my first writing assessment. I killed that thing. I don't remember what it was about, but I remember having the most confidence in the world, just gloating along. Just I

hope gloating means like ragging. Yeah, but internally gloating. I didn't go everyone I did so good on my Yeah, but I was feeling good about that. So and I learned a lot about you know, Ponce de Leon and Saint Augustine in the fourth grade too, So we actually went on a field trip there. It's a Saint Augustine. Where's that you don't know about? It's the oldest town in America. I feel like they said about that about every historical time. Agustin's real. It's like the oldest standing that's where

like the Fountain of Gold was like where you get youthful? Yeah, fountain of youth and gold. It's it's an ancient military fortresses, the oldest in America, the oldest standing structure in America. To it real? No, no, no, they said it was a fountain of youth, and it was because it was gold. I wonder if that has something to do with alchemy. I thought they could never find the Fountain of youth. I think you're mixing the Cortes's gold in the Fountain of Youth. Legends somewhere the wires

got crossed. See, and that's why I don't tell stories, right, was because I probably I just saw it live. You just gave us a demonstration I don't do it. Thanks for providing on Texas well. Right, to be fair, I did provide a good bit of kickback there, so it just kind of it was going along great and then kind of folded. But that's I feel like that's my fault. Are are you reviewing this live? Yeah, that's what we do, I think. See there you go

where Saint Augustine. It's in Florida. It's just it's north or then Orlando, north north than Orlando. It's about two hours away from Orlando. Yeah, it's very cool. You would love it. Saint Augustine is really like and in Florida in general, there's a lot of like psychic mediums and like tarot readings and that sort of thing, and there's a lot of that stuff in Saint Augustine. It's one of the most haunted places in the country. Yeah, oh my gosh, you missed the Ghosts episode and stuff. Pirates

yea pirates, ye, pirate culture. There's a lot of cool bars. The ghost Hunters had an episode there where they went into the most haunted I know people that have done parallelm investigations there. The people that had spirit box at our place right there. But that would be kind of a fun BSS trip, wouldn't it, Saint Augustine. I mean, you know, i'd go for that. I don't like going places stuff like it takes a lot

to drag me out of my house for that. Charlie, Oh yeah, Oh, he's never left Philly. No, keep me in my one little We'll get a U haul and we'll put Nick in the back in some wicker furniture. Yeah, dude, I was talking about that episode two day with one of my coworkers, Like, my new coworker, that's so crazy that you just said that, that's absurd. I don't remember that one well because

we were talking about remember the episode. It was like Charlie had never been out of Philly, and he was like they like tricked him into saying that they were gonna go where were they going, Pittsburgh or something. They were going to drive like a few hours away just to get him out of Philly, And they rented a U haul and him and Dennis ended up in the back of the U haul like cooking hot dogs over broken wicker wicker furniture, and they both passed out in the back of the U haul. Didn't they

just kind of like drive around town all day? Yes? Yeah, they never even left. They never left. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. Did they do that because they wanted to get Charlie out of of uh Philly? But they ended up only driving around all day because that kid ended up stealing the d's new car. Remember. Oh, so he just drove

them around and made them think they were leaving, but they didn't. But the reason I was talking about that is because I was talking about Derek and like the the knon how he did the cut that cut, that cut that for them and stuff like that. Yeah. So that's a wild synchronosity, Alex that you brought up that specific episode. I did have an OMEN today. Oh yeah, Oh ruined my day? Go go god? No, I thought I was saving it episode baby. Yeah. Oh I'm sorry.

I thought you were talking about it this Well, hey, you're not going to be on the OMEN episode, so do you want to talk about Oh? Yeah, I had a terrible something. Something is in the air, and it might be just because it's spring. I don't know. I dropped three different things in the crack between my car seat and the and the console. You know what I'm talking about was it food? No? Three important things today. I've never I've gone weeks without dropping stuff because we're posted to

clips. Yeah, but I think a new moon just happened or whatever. The clip's bigger than all that. Everything's changed. Well, I can tell you about mine because this was wacky, freaky, so I get. I don't know again, I have too much without only child syndrome type thing. But I don't know if it was because I was an only child, but I was just got I'm very attached to like animals, right, Like I

just have like I don't know what it is. I just get very very sensitive around animals and so on this r Ryan, anyone could you know admit to this. But whenever there's an animal, I'm like, there's a here, there's a here, there's a deer, like yah me mechanic thing or like around like it's like a whole thing if a dog was like half a mile away and runs across the road to freak out. Yeah, but don't hit it, right because well really just I don't. I don't know.

Sometimes Ryan, be a little crazy, you know what I'm saying. I'm just like whoa like, don't get there So the other day, I was driving home from Fayetteville and they're out of nowhere, dude, was a cardinal that just literally flew directly in front of my car. It was nowhere to be seen, directly in front of the car. I hit it with the

front of my car. It bounced and splattered on my windshield, and then it full like goes behind my car and I could see it bouncing on the ground behind my car, and I literally I just had an emotional reaction. I just go, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I just started crying, crying. I I was just like apologizing. I felt so terrible too, because I've just been very like emotional and sensitive with nature lately too, and I'm just like, oh my gosh, like

I literally did not mean to do that. It's almost like I wanted God or somebody else to know, like I did not mean to do that, right, So it was terrible. I was like struck for a while. And then later on that day, down the road the same road trip, the same thing happens again where a cardinal comes directly in front of my car. Which again, like we live in North Carolina, that's our state. Bird. It's not like it's the most uncommon thing ever, but it came

right in front of the car. And then later on that day, we're pulling into the neighborhood. Ryan was driving the same day and two Cardinals back to back, like literally flying together in unison, go directly in front of the car. I think it's important and I like, and we almost hit it all of those times, and I have a mini panic every single time.

It's important to mention that that song by Casey Musgrave just recently came out about Cardinals being an omen and you've been singing it and playing it a lot lately. Yeah, Like I mean, her Yeah album came out, which is so funny because the first song that she released on that album was called Deeper Well, and it was all about your Saturn return and about how whenever you turn twenty seven, everything starts to change and you drow up and you

view life differently. And that song came out and then it was just okay, another random thing. I'm gonna get into little like weeds here. But then gosh, Nazia what's her name, Sizza? She came out with a song called something about Saturn and it's all about Saturn, and then Ariana Grande

like this is literally all within the same month of each other. Ariana Grande comes out with an innerlude that's about Saturn and your Saturn return, and I was just like, WHOA, Like you ever sometimes like in the most non selfish way, just like really actually feel like things are revolving around you and

you're like WHOA, Like that's like that was really really strange. But anyway, Yes, the cardinal thing was really weird, the fact that I literally like I haven't I don't think I've ever hit an animal with my car unless it was like a snake. The song is about cardinals being like messages from the dead spirits on the other side, which it is. And then last night and then boom it flies right into our window over power. Last night

I had a really significant dream about my grandfather. Like it wasn't even the type of thing. It was like an energy thing, Like I felt it very intensely even whenever I woke up in all day today. I had one this week about my grandfather as well. Yeah, and it wasn't even a specific thing of like us doing something, but it was just like his energy and being near and talking to him like that sort of thing. I had a very vivid dream. Ryan, you were in my dream last night.

Ooh, okay, that's my man. Do tell well. It was like some sort of brand new gym, like they had just opened this gym and they were throwing this party and it was this all you can eat breakfast buffet at this gym, and we were there, but I vividly remember shaving my face beforehand and then being mad that I did, and then we were at this gym opening ceremony eating cereal. But it was all very real. Wow. I just I can't wait to see Nick glowing after post buzz cut clarity.

What I mean you were talking about before we started recording, about how you're going to tell everybody about his costume change. He just wants to be like me. That could not have been more random, Ryan, You understand that well, he's talking about shaving his face and it just Yeah. I have thought about it many times in the past two weeks, just because like I don't know where to go get a hair cut. It's getting so long.

I mean, I can neither one to do it. Thanks, I can, I can do it. Yeah, I have to do it. Nobody else touched his head. I have to do it, Okay. I think that he just wants to bond with you. That's all it is. You know Randy, my friend Randy, she's she cuts my hair. I haven't gotten my hair. This is well, I'm ashamed. It's definitely been over a year, okay. And Randy's been cutting it, you know, in my bathroom that easy. And I've saved a lot of money. But

Casey's been like giving me trims in the bathroom too. But I mean, I don't know, it's just getting annoyed some days. Some days I'm happy with it. In other days I'm not. But you know whatever, who cares. But Ryan's telling me now that I got to shave it because I'll have what do you call it post buzz cut clarity? It is real? What does that mean? So specifically, it's just like, you know, you feel fresh man guys on God on God, If my wife who is

here to speak up? If my wife would ever let me buzz my head, Alex, you could do the honors. You should do it. If I'm trying to get all my guys to do it before the wedding, I want all shaved heads at the wedding. Why why do you? Yeah, honestly, think about for two seconds, I'm panicking for two seconds. I'm not to think about the visual wedding, think about what that would look like, what you know, just just consider it. It looks very clean,

Oh Alex, But Alex, you've got good locks. Why why aren't you going to let your locks out? Well? Well, it's too late and too and most importantly, I don't want to wait what do you mean it's too late? You got four months to grow your hair. It won't make it in four months. I don't mean locks down to you're just like a nice little won't make it though. She doesn't like that. In between, Oh yeah, no, one does. No, she don't like. I call it the corporate cut. Yeah, like high and tight, but with

a little uh, a little more personality on top. Right right, Okay, I can see it's very corporate cut. It looks like it's in my head shot if you've seen my corporate head So show Olivia doesn't like that. What's Olivia's preference? She likes the buzz cut. Now wow, whoa? So this is wedding day, Alex. See you are in her wedding day. I like that's deep, you know. I think that's great. She allows him to have a buzz cut. No, no, no, no, no, she invites it. Yeah, she doesn't allow it. No,

she did not invite it. Craves it, she did not invite it. Right, it showed up, it came in the house. Well that really did not kick it out. It worked out for you. I love it. You guys must really love each other. I guess, yeah, that really works. Yeah, Ryan, That's just the thing is, I'm going to let you do what you want at the end of the day, but I'm gonna, like you know, I might make a physical like you.

All right, well, let's keep it growing then, right, Yes, I think Ryan's you've got such a nice curly hair like your grandpa did. See. When I hear that, Ryan, I say, let's let's see how serious she is. Well, hey, man, I mean look, we want that is chaos. We want to talk brass tacks. My brother, She's the one I wake up next to, man, not you. I wasn't all kind of going that direction. I was just saying, let's invite some chaos because it's hair and it grows back. I just I'm

saying, if I gotta make somebody happier. I got you gotta make some happy, and that person is you, Hey, Andrew. Yes, no, yourself. You do need to do what's best for yourself, even though you need to do what's best for yourself, honey. But just no, that's not It's just like you slightly change your physical appearance, like you're just dancing such a fine line right now that you cannot change any direction whatsoever. I love you and support you, but now I'm making it clear. These

men are turning it into dry heaving. I never was dry heaving. I was just going up. I'm alert, I'm alert you I don't I don't actually want to ahead. No no, no, no, no no no back on me, back on the Alex, give me the control. I was just going not right. The truth is, I don't actually want to buzz my head. I just love torturing her with it. And we don't believe you though I don't. I don't believe that you think I actually want to buzz my head. I do because you talk about how freeing it would

be, had so much. It really is so nice. It is so nice, like when you have that. Sure, it looks a little funny for a minute, but like it feels so, what do you mean it looks a little funny for a minute to put you you had a camera on yourself, we would all be able to no wedding day. Alex is perfectly handsome the way he is. Okay, I liked this episode. This is wedding day alex is. He already said this is how he's going to go on his wedding, So we got to be supportive. Looks good, but

not to Ryan if he does it, we do not that. Okay, we at that Alex. If we support you and love you and do whatever you want, you look great and perfect. Ryan, Alex. Alex is not my property, right. Actually I think it's the other way around. Alex is like the yard across the street. Who's that, Alex is the yard across the street. I'm like, oh, well, yeah, if you want to cut your line, right, but I like to have some weeds, some mess in there. Yeah. Hey, I'm just I'm just

flattered you care. At least everybody's property values going up because clean and Nick's yards looking great. Nice bush. I got some hedges right right, some big trees, some damn azaleas, some large tree. Yeah, that could you know, maybe I think that he's a little bit more like Pines because of the way that they kind of I think I think if Nick were to be Yeah, he'd be kind of Pine. Yeah, because he's like the lost So your cod trees are regional there, so I would say he's like

the massive Pine kind of given an east bound and Down? Yeah, is that what this is? I like this era. Yeah, you're kind of giving Stevie from season four of Eastbounding Down Alex when he his head. Don't don't spoil it. Oh, so I'll tell you what. This might be the most all over the place episode we've ever recorded. Sorry, are you having anxiety about it? No? Okay, I'm here for it. I hope y'all like this episode. I do. Just what huh, what you

gotta say about Eastbounding Down? I said, don't spoil Oh, I was gonna say that I started watching Eastbounding Down to emotionally take a break from the seriousness of the Sopranos. Okay, yeah, So I was like, okay, yeah, season one, we're laughing, we're laughing, we're laughing. And then I think season two he leaves her at the gas station and it got sad, and I was like, fuck this, I can't be sad watching both shows. So we're going back to Sopranos and locking in. So

that's where I'm at. That's just funny as hell. No, I've had a great time. I was kind of sitting here smiling because I'm like, this is our first time in our new studio. Great. That's why I selfishly wanted to have the band altogether. That's that's my bad, y'all. You're bad. You're an honored guested, my wife, you're you're a distinguished distinguished and that's not even you're more than a guest. Come on now,

yeah, can I say something about the distinguished whatever. The other day, I had seen an old friend from high school, and everyone knew that I married a blood like one of the bloodsos. But the blood shows around town, it's like they're related to freaking everybody, Like you can't give it, you can't get a break from them. They're everywhere everywhere. It's true, man, those freaking blood shows. I see aliens. They're fucking no,

that's not true. I was just talking about the fact that you have a big family and he literally goes, So, how was it like marrying into the bloodsos like, that's like, how is that feeling? I'm like, I feel like I'm the first lady, you know, I just be like the first lady. I feel like Princess Diana. And he thought it was funny. But yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, just listening to these stories y'all. For all of those not watching on camera, we're

doing an epic fist bump right now, yeah we are. But anyway that, I mean, that can be all? What time is it? I didn't I could ponder, but can I can I lean into the next episode a little bit? It was my idea. The thing I want to lean into about Omens, which is going to be the next episode, is that what you guys can maybe talk about this a little bit more too next week, but whenever. What I find so crazy about omens is like, no matter I feel like, how spiritual or not even spiritual, how religious or

like church going people, they still have superstitions. And I find that so interesting because superstitions are like they all lie in like this kind of I think about like the witchchiald type, you know, yeah, don't touch a picture when he's hot, right right? Like I guess I don't know. I don't know if I understand, I don't know that one like a baseball picture. What, Yeah, that's the thing. I just can't fuck believe you. Sometimes I really can't hear. Sometimes I just give up play baseball.

I mean, look, look when the picture's hot, when he's throwing strikes and he's hot and he's on fire, you don't touch it. But aren't you in the bleacher. You don't. You're in the you're in the dugout. Wait, it's your team, bro. You don't touch him. You don't high five, you don't pat him on the back, you don't ruin his mojo. You let him do his thing right. You don't touch a picture when he's hot, as everyone knows, or you don't show up to a job and go this is gonna be easy. Yeah, that's let's have

this episode Baseball, no mental base We'll call it the green Room. Oh that's cute. But anyway, leading into that, I just wanted you guys to ponder that because it's been something I've been thinking about for a long time. Is in the back of everyone's minds, there's still that like, but what if I'm not gonna step on this crack because what if my mom faults

in half like a cheer. Even Saturday, when we were moving all of our stuff over here, we had that standing mirror and your dad was like, I'll let you handle it rhyme, and I was like, oh, I'm not worried about breaking it. He said, well, I'm worried about the bad luck. M oh. I thought he just didn't want to do that because it was very sentimental to y'all. Everything he said, I'm worried about the bad look. No, everything that had to do with the wedding

or everything that was like fragile Jenny's personal trinkets. He was like, I'm not touching that. Yeah, he did not touching that. Touched respect. I respect that, man. Yeah, thank you. You know what, this has been a very fun episode. I feel like this is the first time in the entire history of the entire show that they really got to see our dynamic as husband and wife because the first episode not really husband and wife and friends. This is actually my third episode, is it. Yeah?

Even then, right, it wasn't the real dynamic. Yeah, it was fun. We talked a little bit about, you know, some fun stuff. Yeah, the fourth grade and baseball and all kinds of stuff. I've been hearing about the damn fourth grade for eleven years. Now, y'all, didn't you say your mom says you're stuck in the fort? I say that, Oh no, my mom does too, though I was somebody, y'all. My fish died in the fourth grade. Whenever I got good grade. When I got good grades, cried, we did. I was crying in

the in the common room. I was crying because Conan, this guy, he was very into dirt bikes. He bullied me because I was upset about my fish dying. And he bullied me so hard that I had to go to the common area and cry in his hands. I know, jerk face, right, Conan, I've never forgotten. No, it's Conan. Conan. Ye, well, that was his first life together, dude, right, that was his first mistake pronouncing it like that. Because where is he now? I don't know. Maybe on a dirt bike. I'm wearing Florida

Man. He's the Florida man who knows. I'll see him on the news anyway. Okay, we'll let y'all go. You exited as as brightly as you entered. But cat in the hat the green Man, Right, Jenny is the true one. Yeah, I am so thrilled that you came on the show and the first time in the studio, and you know, at the end of the day, this is all memories we get to look back at together. I know it's still weird being in this room, but it feels really right. Yeah, it feels a lot less like it feels like

it doesn't feel like I'm in house anymore. To me. It feels like, Okay, I'm in a dedicated space that's dedicated to this, and it feels like it's not like, oh, let me sneak in here and get my postage stamps. Let me sneak in here and get whatever. Like all my childhood stuff was in there, barbies were in that room. It's like, okay, we're done. Finally it's about the podcast. Yeah, now

we're in the green room cutting a road. Stuff coming good. Thanks for having me on though, Thanks for coming on, even though I basically was like I have to be on anyway. We love you, love you. Do you still say bye? Guys? Yes, we do. Yeah. We're not just gonna ditch that. We're not just gonna you know, move on to college and forget it. No, I didn't know if you guys still said it. I I don't know if i've heard in a while. Of course, Well you don't watch so right. The secret is out,

all right, okay, bye bye bye, guys. Weird things happened in the backyard of Bletsoe House ship. Oh look up, it's so weird. You're coming closer to my heart like smirre ring on the inside of it. No one knows. It's come right over a siding, and happy happ