145: Be Careful What You Wish For w/ Darrick

Weird Things happened in Weird, Weird Weird. Welcome to episode one of BSS. We have a special guest with us today and a member of the Bledsoe family adopted Derek Ingram. That's me. Thanks for having me. Yeah, man, thanks for being here. I appreciate it. I'm very happy to have you here. I like to when we have guests that we know. I like to go in how we know each other, and you cut in

when I'm not giving enough. But Derek is Chris Junior's probably at this point like oldest friend, right, I mean, one of at very least. Yeah, I mean when did you guys become friends? Like sixteen seventeen, around that time. I want to say seventeen, but it feels like a little bit before, So sixteen seventeen, Yeah, it's appropriate. Yeah. Did y'all go to school together? We did? Oh cool school cool cool?

Hell? Yeah yeah, I didn't know that. And the way we met basically one of our mutual friends just told me one day like, oh, you got to meet our friend Chris, you know, or my friend Chris. You'll love him. Just come over. And I was like, okay, So we got off the bus at your house and we became instant friends and sort of I've been around since that day. That's so awesome.

So back back in those days, we the bleds of family. We were new to grays Creek, you know, right at that time, and we didn't know anybody, and like I met you, but then like you know, Chris meant Derek because we were so many grades apart. And I just remember being like twelve or thirteen years old and you went from like coming over all the time to basically like living with us for a long extensive time.

And the thing that stands out to me about those times was there was there was such a bond there that like there would be times when Chris was gone and you would just like has shleepovers in my room. Yeah, and we would just hang out bro and we yeah, play video games, Halo exactly, Yeah, listen to music. Yeah, And I wanted to talk about some of those earlier times because you just blew my mind. Two weeks ago, so we're doing the remodel in the house. Junior and Dad and Derek

are living with me for a month now. This is week four. This is week four. Yeah, it's already been a month. Yeah, we're about halfway through, but yeah, yeah, or about halfway. Yeah, And it's been crazy, man. And like a couple of weeks ago, you told me some stories that I had never heard that I just thought were so valuable that like we have to go into that. They don't know these stories. I just learned of them. I talked to Chris, I talked to Dad, and they were like, oh, you didn't know that.

Chris was like, hey, it's not my story to tell, and you never asked, but like, let's talk about what was going on when you know what I'm getting at, right, Yeah? Yeah, well oh seven oh seven. So basically the way that I remember it was one day Junior and I and one of our mutual friends were out on the corner of the street by the Cyper Slakes House. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. So we're

just out on the street. It's really really late on a Sunday night, and Junior's looking up at the sky and he's like, I pray to God, I could see aliens, you know. And I look to him and I go, be careful what you wish for ooh, and he goes, I know exactly what I'm wishing for. He looked at me and and I was like okay. And then the way I remember it is like I get up and go to school the next day, maybe some days past whatever,

but I get up and go to school. I get on the bus from their house, and then when I get off the bus and come home, nobody's there. And I was like, oh, you got to there. You got off the bus at their house. Nobody was home, right, okay? Yeah, And so then I was just like, where's everybody where? Everybody? You know, Like I go in, nobody's there. Like it was just like for me, I don't know, kind of eerie because

I remember like Alex was there, the parrot. The bird didn't even say nothing to us or to me. When you know, r ip to the goat yeah yeah yeah, soda can noises yeah, and the phone ring and he would talk in Chris Senior's voice all the time. See that's how you know their o G has been around. They would talk with our parents. Yeah. Well literally I'd walk in the door and he'd be like, hi,

Derek, you know, yeah, super cool African. Great. Well, So then like I guess, I left and went home and then I like called, you know, and someone answered, and it was like you called who I called the house to. He hasn't said this yet, but this is the night of the river, right, No one's there, right, So he calls to say he got a weird vibe when he went and the house was empty. Yeah. And so then I call and someone answers and they're like hello, some like weird voice, you know. And I'm

like, hey, uh is this Saryan? And they're like no. And I'm like, okay, is this Miss Sivonne And they're like no, And there's like some other voices in the back, like to each other. And then I go like, is this Emily? Cause you know, I couldn't distinguish the voice, like is it a an adult, a child? Is it someone making a voice to me? You know, I didn't. I was just confused. So I'm like is this Emily. It's like no,

and I said who is this? And then it just hung up and I was like, so this was the following day after I get off the bus at their house and nobody's there. And then and I'm with our friend Nick. You remember him, Oh yeah, you play guitar? No, that was Tyler, that was right, You're right, you're right, Yeah, I know who you're talking about yea, yeah, yeah. So Nick was at my house and I was like, Yo, this is so weird. We gotta go, we gotta just go check on them or just just see,

you know. And so we drove over and I like walk in the house and it's like super quiet, and there's like they had this computer you know, the computer table. Yeah, it was by Alex's case exactly right there. So there was this like white fold out table there and it had this weird note. It was just like nothing but this table there right before the red room. Ye. Then the note said something like don't you care if dad is dying in sadness? Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah. And

then it was just like I don't know. I peeked around and like nobody was in anywhere, you know, And I came out and I was just like, I don't know, just looking around. I went over to Papa Ted's house and no cars there either, So I was just like, what's going on? Yeah, and I freaked out and told our friend we got to go. So I left and I just counted in. About eight days

later is whenever I saw everyone again. I just kept like calling, stopping by until finally and for me, It was weird because it took months before Junior told me, about two months maybe more before he told me anything about what happened. But I noticed that he was acting funny. Just everything was so different. Everybody was kind of on edge, but there it was like a I guess I could describe it as feeling like feeling like I was on

the outside of a big secret. But it was weird also because I had been living there and then suddenly something changed and I have no clue at this point, especially with all the weird phone call and the note and like yeah yeah, and then they finally whenever Junior told me about it, I like I believed it, you know. I wasn't just like, oh, you're you know, yeah, yeah. I was just like, why would he

make this up? And it sort of dawned on me. I was like, Oh, this is why he's been acting so different, you know, And because I had been kind of asking, like, what's going on, you know? And then that's when I told him and Dad about the call, the call and the note and having stopped by and you know, who can you imagine that now? Granted I was thirteen when this happened, right, yeah, can you imagine how I reacted two weeks ago when I heard

this story for the first time. I can't believe that. I was like, you want to call on the podcast that's about how it happened. We're just like sandwich there, yeah, exactly, lunchtime, on your lunch break working on the house. Oh by the way, you know I got a weird phone call. Whoa, Well yeah it was weird, and like I never really talked about it outside of with Junior and Dad, you know, like, how soon after that, or rather like how far away was it

until you started seeing stuff in the sky finally? Well, you know, so, I would say. From when I was really young, I had seen like cigar shaped things, but as a kid, I sort of was like, oh, I have a very active imagination like before us Yeah, yeah, okay, but these are just like I never really thought much about it, if you know what I'm saying, Like, I just saw I

think I've told Junior about this before. One time, me and one of our friend that introduced us were coming home from another friend's house on bikes and we just saw these like cigar shaped things that were like the colors of clouds, but they kind of multiplied but it was kind of like just that, you know. And then shortly thereafter this was I'm not sure about how much time passed between then and whenever we actually met, but then finally we met.

And I guess once Junior opened up to me about it and opened up to our other friends is around the time that we started, I started seeing more things, you know, I didn't see orbs immediately. I remember the first thing I saw was this like pyramid shape thing and the sky yeah yeah, floating over our friend's house. Yeah, yeah, in Gray's Creek. Yeah, in Grays Creek. Remember what color it was. It was like kind of like silverish. It was like reflective of whatever was around at night

time. Whoa. Yeah. So Junior and I and two of our other friends went to our one friend's house, and this particular friend was the guy that was with us on the street when Junior said to the sky that he wished he could see aliens, you know, yeah, and the guy was like, Okay, I'll be right back. So he ran in the house to pick up something and he was going to stay with us at the at

the Cyprus Lakes house. And when he was in the houses, whenever we saw it and then as he's coming out is whenever it sort of disappeared over the tree line behind us, and y'all all saw it. Me and two of our other friends saw it. WHOA, I'm trying not to say names. Yeah, yeah, totally understood, dude. Yeah. You know what's crazy about that is I had never known all this time because I always knew that Dad went out there the night of the river and prayed and was like

he was a you know, praying to see something. He was praying for his life to be changed. But I never knew that Junior prayed for it too. Oh man, I got what he prayed for. Oh definitely. Wow. And you know what adds to that. I know that that happened exactly as you tell me because when we were little kids. I told this

recently on the show. I remember being at our first at our second gage fourhouse, and me and Jeremy and Junior were all just sitting around talking and I remember us saying like, what would you ask God when you die? And Junior was like, I would ask about aliens? Oh? Wow? You know what we were always as children, as young children, we were always fascinated with something else being out there and It just adds like a crucial layer to the story that he prayed for that and then he got it and

you said, be careful what you wish for. Absolutely, I never knew that conversation ever happened until a couple of weeks ago. And that's something I always say on Junior's episode that we just recently recorded a few weeks back. I mean, I know it just came out. I guess it'll be two weeks at this point. Yeah, but we recorded it three or four weeks ago. On that episode, we had a I'm pointing because he's in the room, he's right behind the camera. On our episode, I literally said,

be careful what you wish for. Had no idea the whole time that he was the first one who said it. It's just it just all comes full circle. You know. There are a lot of synchronicities, for sure. Oh yeah. And the fact that even as kids, before any of this stuff happened, you guys were fascinated by we were talking about it, praying for it, right, yeah, literally before it ever happened. It's like destiny. It adds a layer that is just you just can't make it

up. Oh yeah, of course, it's like it was destined to happen. Yeah. Wow, dude, how bizarre. That's an element to the story. It's just it's so incredible how like every little detail it just paints this bigger and bigger, more detailed picture that it all makes more and more and more sense. Yeah. Wild. And then within a year of this whole thing happening, you know, is when Discovery right and mouf On started

coming around. So you know, imagine that's another thing that was like whoa, like, you know, having these big networks come to the house and you know, wanting to talk to us, and you know, and I was even just adjacently there, but still like you know, oh yeah, yeah, I'll never forget the first time I saw that, I was in Boston. Wow, this was before like you guys had even shown it to me, which that would have been like it came out two thousand and eight,

right, yeah, so we were there. Wait, do you remember like around when in two thousand and eight it came out. It was the fall okay, like October November, so we went it must have been two thousand and nine. It was like springtime. We went to Boston and so literally like within six months of it coming out. We're sitting in Miles's living room eating breakfast and I look over and it's on TV. And I was like, that's my friend's dad. And my whole family was like what because

they didn't know anything about it at that point. I think I think I might have waited until that moment to tell them, you know, and I'm like, yeah, no, that's that's my friend's dad. And we sat there and watched like the whole thing. Wow. Yeah, it's so bizarre. That was. That was a weird because I knew that it had happened, and what hey, you were coming around before it aired. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was wild to see it on the

TV being played like this is before streaming and all that. It just happened to be on the TV. Just happened to be on Discovery. Boom. There it was. I'm eating cereal. That was back when Netflix was like mailing CD Oh my god, remember I remember that because red Box was all the rade. Yeah, it was. My grandparents were the first people who told me about Netflix. They're like, it's awesome. They like send you DVDs and all this stuff. And I was like, you had some super

hip grads. I know they were ahead of the curve. Yeah, they knew what was going on. Yeah, I remember Game Fly. Yeah, you mailed the video games. I never did it. They always sent me scratched up games. I could play like forty five minutes in and it would be like, pause, that's not okay, No, it's not that's not okay. I got like three games from them and I cut it out. Yeah, I'm talking about it's about what happened. So yeah, so we

recently were reunited because when when did you go away? Oh like eleven years ago? Wow, I left and went to California. Yeah, So Derek, if you don't mind me setting up for you, Derek is a very gifted artist, and dude, I remember when we were little kids. I say little. You were seventeen. I was thirteen. But that's all a little right when you're in your thirty kids, it's all kids when I was back then, you guys were grown. But now it's like y'all were seventeen.

Y'all were kids. We were children were children. Yeah yeah, but you just would be drawing these just immaculate art pieces, and I remember you would show them to me and I was just always blown away and then I guess, you know, one thing led to another and you were pursuing art and you went to LA. So let's let's go into some of that, man. Okay, well I'll give you a little wind up. So I out of high school went to college for three D animation and game design.

Oh that's epic. Yeah that was It was pretty fun. That's all pretty cool. So I learned three D modeling, animation, took film classes, so I learned two D animation, a little bit like motion graphics, that kind of stuf, you know, just the gamut, a little bit about music production and recording as well. Then I worked in the industry at fun coom for just under a year. What kind of stuff age of Oh that's

cool, way, that's wild. I've actually played that game. Same Yeah, Well I had a lot of fun, you know, mostly game testing, but I did uh GM for like all these different I did all the languages you know, GM, and just reported a whole bunch of design and functionality issues. That's so cool. Then from there, I once my contract ended, I moved to California to be closer to video games and never got back into that. I went to doing design and graphic apparel for like J.

C. Penny and Walmart and stuff like that. Urban Outfitters. I did a few shirts for them Party City. Then I went to school for cabinet making that's a turn, and then back to design. But ultimately I landed and somewhere in there I started. I was a sign salesman. But then I landed in LA and started working at a shop and started making neon

and that's when my life changed and I started getting really big projects. One of the first at that shop was Stevie wonder I mean signed for his excuse me, yeah, Overjoyed is like one of my favorite songs of all time. It's a great one. That's that's the first thing you did in this one of the first ones. Remember what it was the Yeah, it was

Stevie Wonders song party. So he had this event and like Kelly Rowland was there and Angela Bassett was there and all these people and yeah, it was like a four foot wide sign with three quarter inch acrylic backing that we flame polished the edges and it had like blue yellow, red green, well not yellow classic gold, but it's a distinction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but because yellow is a whole different Yeah, but yeah, that was great.

I was very excited, and ultimately about seven months after I left that shop and sort of just was like, I think I can sell me on on my own and I did. Yeah. Yeah. So have you always been like a bit of a renaissance man, Like yeah, yeah, I can tell like you have that artist bug, but some people have a step further where it's like limitless and it's just like yeah, it's like I want to do that, and you just do it and it just makes sense.

And I'm assuming you were feeling like pulled in these directions to do these things. Yeah, you know, it's crazy because the way that I ended up even so, I moved to LA and I was living with a friend. I met this random friend in San Diego on the beach and I had like, at this point, I was wearing a bun because it was at the beach, and this person was like, hey, black Samurai, come over here. So I was like me, so, you know, do you have a sword or yeah, exactly so, and my hair was much shorter.

So I just went over and he was like, Hey, what's up and we just started chilling. Fast forward three years later, I ended up moving with him in la, you know, and uh, that's how well, oh my gosh, so funny. Basically living with him, I ended up meeting like Dave Chappelle and all these other people, yeah, in the in the heart of Hollywood, and it just kind of goes on, well, you met Dave Chappelle. Yeah, he was like the nicest person ever,

so nice. I've always like hoped that he would be like a genuinely kind person, nicer than you even imagine, because he seems you know, you see him do his act, and you see like comedians do their act, and you often wonder like is this them, how much of them is even in this act or whatever, But he always just seems so sincere and genuine and and it's cool. I think he's even nicer when you talk to him than he is on stage, because his jokes could come across his harsh

to some people. He's like, he's super nice. It's an act, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I mean it is like true to form in a way, because he's not like there's a line you draw when something is a joke and when it's reality. Sure, for we all do it with our friends, but then when it's a public figure, people look at different you know. Yeah, but he's just as sweet and genuine as you could imagine, probably more awesome. I forgot to say this.

Derek did one of the original renditions of the beings, like sketches. I don't have it on me, but you did. I did way back up before leaving for California, before anything we did. Junior and Dad explain to me sort of what a craft and a being looked like, and I drew them and that's what Discovery used. That's what was on the Discovery Yeah, it was. They modeled it, Yeah, based off and then funny after that, I went to school for three D modeling and I didn't even put

those two together until later. But yeah, talk about synchronicity exactly. And now Wild he's just like probably eighteen at this point, and he's drawing, you know, it's like a it's like a sketch artist, right, like you're describing something. He's sketching it out, and then Discovery Channel goes and renders it. It's dude, it's like you were meant to go to LA and do what you did. You have that I've told you this, Yeah, you have you have that. Uh, you have that manifesting trait.

You know, he's being humbled. I mean he's being really humble. We're talking like telling Neon for the biggest stars in the world. I mean, let's name a few. Justin Bieber, Yeah, I sold some Neon to Justin Doja cat for Doja, I did a costume for her MVA MTV VM A award show, the one that was the first show after pandemic. So it was like and that wasn't the one where she did like the metal cover of say so was it? You know what I'm talking about? It?

I don't think what was she Okay, it's the one where she's wearing all pink and it's like scales. It was long green hair. I know what you're talking about. You made that costume. I worked on it yet, so I did the scales? Are you kidding? Well? First of all, I'm glad you liked it. Second of all, Asher was the designer. I work at his studio, Asher Levine, and he I'm one of his head designers and fabricators, so you know, he has me come on and do any of his vinyl stuff and a lot of you know, he

did the costume for Shinnegami eyes I did. I did those scales too. That one was brutal, brutal, it was like difficult. Well, those were probably the most scales I had ever put on anything. Damn. It was a lot of like because he used some really cool like algorithm to create to make the scales mathematically. I can't really describe it to you. You've got to look at it and just know that it's a math behind it.

It's not just drawn like the Doja scales. We drew by hand every single one, which was like thousands and thousands, and then cut it out and then you know, and I can show you the footage from behind the scenes later. But then with Shinagami eyes, it was all, uh, I don't know, it's geometric, you know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we were talking the other day and we were just talking about some of the stuff that you had done. No,

we weren't even talking about some of the stuff that you had done. We were talking about it's always something in Philadelphia. Yeah, oh yeah, I did there. I designed the Neon sign to cut that cut that cut that for their podcast. Oh did you I didn't know that? Yeah, that's awesome. It was cool, I have, I have the I can show you stuff. Later, Derek offered to make us neon for the new studio, and I'm like, can we afford you? Yes, it's worth every

penny, Absolutely it is. We gotta have the pennies, man, we're family. We can find the pennies. We're gonna scrounge them up because that's got to happen. I can't believe that. I am like obsessed with their podcast and I look at that Neon sign like all the time. So you've been looking at my work this whole time. Didn't even know it. Oh dude, everybody listening to the show too, like with the It's so funny, man, it's ironic, like how the three D render on that thing

was based on your drawing. Yeah, and millions of people around the world seeing your work, you know, on all these A List celebrities whatever, whatever. It's crazy, man, It's crazy to me to think because you know, I know a lot of people go out West and they end up on the street or they end up being the street performers in dirty costumes, you know. Yeah, I mean it's true. It's true though, and people go out there in search of a dream, and sort of it.

The way it happened is I was living in San Diego and just kept getting gigs and gigs and gigs in LA and I was staying there during the week and going back to San Diego at the weekend. And eventually I was just like, I'm just gonna go over, you know. And my friend was like, yeah, come stay with me, just cook, just cook. And I was like, I can do that. I can definitely do that.

And then within two weeks is whenever I ended up. I think, yeah, within two weeks is when I ended up meeting Dave and things just kind of he was your entry point. Yeah, and for all this work. The last thing he said, he was like, I'm sure I see you again, you know. And I was just like, well, this person's so nice. I just got hugged by like the Angelo comedy just well to me, you know, it's so funny, so funny. He was

explaining to me, just you know, just Derek stories. He was explaining to me how being in Mariah Carey's mansion was being in like what was it like five houses and one like hotel you get lost in there? Yeah, he said it was a twelve course meal. Huh right, like three of them, three twelve course meals and it was all nice twelve hours. I was there from six pm one night to six am. So what happened was like, and mind you, this is really cool. Like the production people

there I'm like super tight with and you know, we work together. They bring me on you know what I'm saying, yeah, and so baby, come over, let's hang out. Yeah yeah, yeah. And so basically they called me last minute and was like my homie was like and they called me Deshaun you know that's my middle name, Deshaun or Neon Poppy like yeah. So they they call me and I'm like hello because I don't normally get

a call from this number. And he's like, yo, Deshaun, you still make Neon right, And I'm like yeah, and he's like good. Uh so, uh Mariah needs a Neon in two days, can you do it? And I was like, send me the artwork and they were like, okay, we'll get to see right away. So they got it to me right away. I gave him pricing and they were like, yeah, we need it. So I immediately I just had to stop what I was doing in the middle of the day start producing it, you know, didn't

had them deliver it to me or no, I'm sorry. I had them come pick it up for me from my house, and cause you know, I love my signs so much their art for me, and it was the word butterfly is her handwriting, so I had to like capture that anyway. I wanted to have it in my house for a little bit, so I had them come get it. And then I got a text message and it was like Mariah in her production request that you be here. And I was

like okay, and they were like can you make that happen? And I was like yeah, But then you know, they weren't getting back to me. So I was like, what should I wear? What should I do? And I was freaking out, just like sitting in my house, like walking in circles, and they were like, just come and I was like, oh my god. So I just threw on an outfit showed up. And it turned out because I was living in Hollywood, she was only like eleven minutes from my house, her house, but I lived in the ghetto

though, like Hollyoo Boulevard. That's like, you know what I'm saying, that's that's not the nice area. But so you pull up and like you can't drive to her house. You have to drive to the bottom of the mountain and she sends a shuttle down to pick you up. What Yeah, and then she drove us up there and you know, then was it on like like never Land level? Like no, Like okay, because that's what

I'm imagining. This is her small house, oh okay, which still takes like five minutes to get from the front door to the back house when you walk through, like it takes a while. Yeah. Wow, I mean she is Mariah Carey and she's amazing. She's super sweet. Like people think she's like such a maybe maybe I don't know, people think she's such a diva, like like she's so nice. I don't know. I've heard that. I've heard the reputation that like the whole diva thing. But she's acting

yeah, yeah, because that's what I don't know. To me, that's what people expect of her. So she's like making fun of the idea, right, But in person, she's like are you comfortable, like how everything's going, how's the performance? And I'm like, you're asking me how I think if you're singing? And Franklin was there the performance she sang for everybody. Oh it was she did a music video. Her last music video shoot was at her one of her houses, and I was we made it snow

in her backyard. Also, your sign was for the music video. Yeah, but it was for the music video. But she's always had a love for Neon. She's had neon made on the grand scale, but never kept one for herself. So my Neon is the first piece she ever collected. Come on, it's in the mantle piece in her back house with all of her her plum plaques and stuff. Actually, hey see that right there. Oh yeah, we ordered it online for our wedding. I figured that and

I love it. Actually, it looks good. It does. It was just some European company. Yeah. You know, this stuff is getting so popular because you know, it's it's more affordable. I love that they did this silhouette backer. That's that's something that I always do. It costs a little bit more, but it makes your piece look unique instead of doing like a straight black backer. But you know, just wait, you'll see what I do. I'm gonna look it up. Oh my god, I cannot

wait. Are that's gonna go crazy? Man? Yeah, it's gonna be good. So who's who's or rather, what is your favorite piece you've done, or who is the celebrity or whatever your best experience. Man, that's so hard because there are so many that I love. Like probably, Okay, so I did this thing for Peter Dundas, and it's these He is a fashion designer, and he did all of the gowns that Beyonce war during her pregnancy at the award ceremony. So there's this one where she's wearing this

like all red sequin thing and she's got the baby bump. He did that one, and he did this the one I think he did the one where she did the performance where she leaned back in the chair with all the when she was pregnant with the twins. So anyway, this guy, this was

one of the first. It's technically channel letters, right, but they're these like five foot two inch tall individual standing anadized gold aluminum letters with the faces like parts routed out for the faces with acrylic sin white, which is kind of like a frosty white acrylic on the inside, and then it's self contained.

Each letter has battery packs and they light up. So that was my favorite because of That's when I realized I kind of had a knack for this thing, because it was like when you're working for Beyonce, that's when you realize that you have a tag for well, okay, so she was at the party, but it wasn't and they did say, oh, it's a party for Beyonce, that's how they said, but it was for the Peter Dundas it was for him. Yeah, And basically getting the acrylic faces on

the inside of the letter. They chose a very specific font and I had to take that font, which was with very fine strokes, and blow it up to five foot each letter, you know, and then I had to make it self contained. And then I had to there was like an eighth of an inch gap between the inside of the letter and the edge of the acrylic, so just so we could put silicone in there enough to hold it. And it was just like little details like yeah, little intricacies like that.

It took me like a day and a half or us a day. And I have to figure out the right battery pack that would last like two or three hours, you know, because they had to keep changing the batteries every night, so they are every few hours in the night of the party. Yeah, so it was kind of a hassle, but it was fun. So you've said your Instagram handle, so that means I'm allowed to Yeah. Yeah, so his instagram is Neon Poppy. If you find any of

this ludicrous or hard to believe, just go peep. It's all there. It's all there. It's all crazy, and you know, we've known you the whole time. Not that that was ever a question, but people out there hearing this being like, what come on, man, No, no, no, it's all real. It's all really there, and very clearly in the eleven or twelve years that you were in LA, you flourished, and you came from like humble, you know, small town grays Creek living

to going and you know, touching the stars in La. It's pretty amazing. And then he came home. Yeah you know, yeah, I you know, I guess going to LA was a very good test of my metal because I you know, growing up, you guys and and people have always been like, oh, you're talented, you know, but I I hadn't yet come face to face with that. For myself. I knew I could draw, but I was just like, okay, but people can draw though, and I know I could backflip, but I'm like, okay, but

people be backflipping, you know. But then I guess I felt like there was something God has something specifically for me, because you know, one of the time that I worked in LA, all of my projects were for entertainment. It was never you know, I didn't even get to touch mom and pop shops. You know, it was all that, And so I got to see who I am in terms of what I'm capable of. You mentioned

manifesting before. I think like all I did was sit around as a kid and draw celebrities, you know, like really for a long period, I was drawing you know, Beyonce's and Rihanna's and so cool. You did manifest that, I think so, but I wasn't aware. And then I realized,

you know, I needed home, I need family. Things get things get tough at a certain period because business slows down, and you know, LA's expensive, and COVID happened, and Hollywood shut down exactly, and with all the strikes, it was just all perfect timing for his business, yeah, to take a hit. So I just I came back and I'm very happy. I've been back six months and I feel like, I I know now, I guess what I'm made of. And now I'm coming back to who I am, right, you know, and your core, my core

exactly. You know, I don't know biscuits. You know what I'm saying. Miss That's what every time people would be like, you must miss the South, I say, I miss biscuits. I really do so. But and and you know, coming back to I feel like I'm making up for lost time. You know, I'm getting to spend time with you guys. I get to see y'all every day now, every day, and it's been it's been amazing. We've had like twelve years of catching up to do. And you know, he's been living with us for a month too, so

it's just it's been great. It's like, I don't know, I was just shocked because you just out of nowhere, I get a call from mom or Dad and they're like, Derek's coming home. And I'm like, what, that's awesome, and they're like, he's living with Chris Junior. And it's like what, So, like, you're coming to Thanksgiving. I'm not sure if you came to Christmas. I was around, Yeah, I was.

I was at Christmas at Junior's house after right, right, right, Yeah, that's right, and we've just been like really catching up and it's been awesome. But I brought this up to say, since you've been home in the last six months, the orbs have been off the charts. Oh yeah, weren't you out there with me the night of the Thanksgiving party? Yes? Yes, yeah, let's tell that man. Well, actually I missed it by one second because I was making a coffee and Dad was like,

come outside, and you and Dad went outside. We were at our aunt, Julie's, Yeah, Julie, and there was a party, a Thanksgiving party. It was like it wasn't Thanksgiving Day. We don't usually do it there, but it was like a I don't know, day before something, It doesn't matter, but it was our Thanksgiving party and there's twenty or thirty people there and Dad comes up to me in the crowd and he's just

like, we got to go out right now. I feel him right now, And me and Dad go outside and poof in ORB appears and then next thing I know, Derek's walking up behind us, and then I feel like there was another one, wasn't there? I missed both of them. At that that night, but continue, well, that was it. I just remember you being there. We walk out and you're just right there. Like I walked out right at the end and Dad was like, I told you

to come. I'm sorry my coffee was pouring and right in that moment. But since then, you know, there have been other a lot of other Actually, on January eighth of twenty twenty four of this year, Junior and I were working on a house on Marsh Road, which Marsh Road is the rivers like off that road where the event actually happened. Yeah, and we stepped outside for lunch and we looked up and we saw well a pill,

you know, like one of the kind of oblong ones. Yeah, or it was like it looked round kind of oblong, but it was like it was just crazy because it was just tracking through the sky. And then one of our other guys that works with us came up and was like, what is that? You know? And then you look over and we're like, well, there's a plane right there, you know. Like so that's always the comparison point. I do that too, I'll like and somehow almost every

time I see an orb there's also a plane somewhere in the sky. It's just like, so you can compare, it is exactly just like I want you to know that that's not what I am. That's what it feels like. It does feel like that. And then the day the night of the eclipse. Oh right, was it the night of the eclipse? Let me the night after? It was? No, no, no, no, no, it wasn't the night of Chris Chris shaking his head. Chris saw an orb during the daytime during the eclipse, right he did? Junior did

he saw an orbit in the sky while the eclipse was happening. Remember he just always sees him during the day, right, he just always has. And also before we breeze past it, I want to say, how freaking synchronistic and ironic it is that you were there with him January eighth of twenty twenty four at the original place because you lived with us and were coming around when it originally began. You're gone for twelve years, and then you're with

him the day of and boom, you guys saw it. I thought that was crazy, Yeah, but yes, it was the day of the eclipse. Junior saw he saw it during the day and then it was Tuesday night we were outside, right, and was that like triangle? Yes, okay, Derek. We just walked out like, uh, I guess, I don't know. The end of the day, Dad and I were leaving and y'all were walking us out to the car. Yeah. Yeah, and then we just happened to walk out and look up and it was like right there,

orange orb and it was moving kind of slow. Then when we started looking at it started moving like barreling a lot faster. And so we're all going up with our cameras trying to zoom in and watch it, and then it slows down again, coming over us, and then it just goes over behind us in the sky. Now, in the video, it looked like it was blinking, but it wasn't right. It wasn't blinking. It looks like there's some like energy field or something moving around whatever is at the core

of it. Yeah, I saw when I saw the video. I asked Ryan, like, is it actually doing that or is it just the video? And Ryan was like, oh, no, it's doing that. It was. We saw that with our eyes and it was doing that weird cumulating thing. Yes, it was. It was like kind of like it was surrounded by energy and it was kind of moving. That's how it feels to me, because it looks like there is like a pyramid thing in the center. Yeah, but then there's this interference. Yeah, you know, it

was wild man. I also wanted to ask because you were there at the Azalea Festival. Yes, I showed up after you were gone, But what was that experience like for you after all these years being away? First of all, it was amazing. The scenery was beautiful. It was I will tell you it warmed my heart to see the beautiful responses of all of the

people. You know, I think the community that are surrounding this event, this phenomena is a very open, very warm and welcoming community, you know, And it just made me feel good to see something positive because I know that when everything originally started, it was so difficult on the family. You know. You remember I said the exact same thing, and I couldn't agree more. You know, we've been with y'all for I mean ever a lifetime,

more than half our lives. Yeah, and so we were there at the beginning when it was dark and scary and negative, and that festival, seeing all of those people hugging on y'all and talking to y'all and supporting you, and like I felt like there was like this piece that just like clicked in me that was like I needed to see that for such a long time, and it's it's important to me to recognize that there are more people connected to the spirit. Yeah, right, like this phenomenon. Yeah, this

it. I agree. I couldn't agree more like hearing those stories, similar things, and here hearing people inspired by your dad sharing the story, you know, and how it's like brought their families together, and it was just so beautiful, and how they've had similar or their own unique experiences, you know, absolutely, And I think it it's very important where like to have a community of people to understand you and you know, at least feel where

you're coming from. You know, I think it can be this type of experience I believe was very alienating for you guys for a very long time. And I remember, you know, in the beginning, you wouldn't even tell me for a long time, and you were saying, like you're not gonna believe me, you know, And it took a long time. And so I guess seeing the other side of it, where like you know, I guess the dad can actually talk about it and Junior, yeah, yeah,

because you used to get upset. Dad would bring it up. We'd be all chilling in the red room, I remember, and he would not like it. He would leave. Yeah, always, I remember, mad I remember, sorry, No, I remember, you're right that that that's trauma. D Yeah, and look at him now, yeah, exactly, Like what's the word like, uh, comfortable, acclimated or something, you know, embracing, Yeah, excepting. Absolutely, it's cool. It's it's really cool. And but you know, I would say, yeah, I'm very,

very glad to see where things are going. It feels like a different timeline. It feels like the positive timeline. Yeah, like there's been like a shift. Yeah, yeah, Well, you know the thing is, Junior said this in his episode that he felt like he had to go through

or the difficult part in order to to to get to this part. You know, I guess you could say, uh, a common phrase people say, there is no you can't have a testimony without a test you know, absolutely, I said, I say, you can't have good days without having bad days. It's which is like a microcosm of that. But yeah, it's all in the same universe. I feel like that is almost the purpose of this like physical material realm, right, is because like why else would

all of this exist? Right, It's like before all of this, there was some infinite energy out there that was like, okay, well what is this all for? What does it all mean? If I'm you know, if there's just this big ball of energy in the sky and that's it and

whatever, Well, let's let's throw some stuff together. Let's bang some stuff together and you know, create these beings that can go through these trials and tests and tribulations and learn to appreciate the beauty, yeah, and the love and and you know, because without something to compare it against, you don't really know what you have, right, And to learn that we're all we're not so different, not at all, We're all necessary. This is gonna

sound silly, but isn't food so much better when you're hungry? Preach Ryan, you know what I'm saying, Like it sounds silly, but it's it's the same point. Like I totally agree. No, it's true, Like a starving man who hasn't eaten in weeks would eat a cucumber and think it tastes like cotton can and weep. Yeah, You're right. It's like the it's the test, it's going through and because when you're on the other side

of it, you can look back and see where you came from. And that's when the gratitude can fully like anger, oh absolutely, and like you can look back and say, oh my god, I made it out of that, I made it through that. I feel like that when it comes to coming back here. Yeah, you must feel like you lived multiple lives.

Yeah. I feel like a war hero in a way really, yeah, because it was tough, you know, like it, you know, being called at the last minute, you know, to come up with a project it's eleven PM or whatever, you know, but you know, coming back being welcomed and embraced, you know, it's like that's true circle, it's like a parallel. You went on your own hero's journey and you're back

at the core. Yeah, you have Do you feel like, do you coming back now, do you feel like you may have a deeper appreciation for like the family that you found? Uh? Yeah. You know. The thing is we always stayed in contact in some way. You know. It was never like you would come back every now and then I came back once, Yeah, and I remember the ones. Yeah, yeah, and that

was cool. We uh there's actually me, mom and dad were painting, like yes, it was really really nice and I this was actually before I started painting like seriously, which only happened. I never thought I was a good painter, but two years ago I was like, oh, I guess maybe I can do this. But yeah, we used to paint together.

Me and mom used to make bracelets and stuff, you know, so it was really cool coming back to like, uh, that just wholesome, you know, like slow things down a little bit, a lot of bit, yeah, yeah, a whole lot. Yeah. Yeah, I'm about to I'm about to crack your head open with some good news here. And this is all just talking. It's not it's up to them. But okay, no, I'm telling on him. You. This is about you. Oh you about to crack my head open? Yeah? Oh okay, Yeah,

I'm playing seeds, I'm pulling strings. You're scheming, but uh oh yeah, I'm just sing. I love scheming. I'm trying really hard to convince everybody to come to Wilmington. Who's everybody? Everybody? I know, my mom, my dad, Junior, Derek. Emily's already said she wants to end up here when she's done with Florida. Derek's like, look, wherever Junior goes, I'm going pretty much. I'm convince they love it here. They've been living here four weeks now. They're like, it's pretty cool.

It's hitting. It's a cool place. I like being. It's cool actually because I lived only twenty minutes from the beach in LA but here we're like six minutes uh huh oh direction, eleven minutes that direction, something like that. So it's so nice just being in the vicinity of the ocean because the smell of the air. I agree, dude. I walk out of my apartment sometimes and I'm like, uh huh, dude, just it's different here. I tease Alex all the time. No, Nick, do you remember

when I brought that up to you when we were moving you in? Did you? Yeah? I was like, that was the most naotic day ever. So No, I was like, Man, I cannot wait till this like salt air gets gets on you. It's I want on me. It's everywhere. Yeah, I want to document like everything that happens to you because of it. Dude. I keep teasing Alex. Man, He's like he doesn't realize how lucky he was to be born here and grow up here. Just not even here, just like near the beach, but here too.

You want to hear something funny. Uh So, at my new job, I interact with new people every single day, and so while I'm working on their computers or whatever, we make small talk. You know, are you from here? Almost everybody is from here? And oh yeah most of the

people really. Yeah, the people that you talk to, the people well, these are people that I work that work for the company that I work for, and so they all work there because it's dude, I I never run into I mean, I will say though, people who have lived here twenty years say that they're they're they're they're like live here. Yeah, but the oh was born here? Oh dude, you know so many people. And the funniest part is when they ask me where I'm from, the reaction

is always the exact same. I say, oh, I'm from Fayetteville, and they go, oh, it ain't and they go and they always say faetnam every single time. You know what, you know, what's funny, I say, it ain't that bad. I say that every single time because it really wasn't. You know, you get used to like a symphony of

bullets from you know, as the background of their life. You get Fort Bragg, the artillery real you just get or like people hunting or are shooting because or yeah, or you know, gang violence and then that kind of But if you're not in the way of exactly, then who cares, right, And when you hear it, you always just tell yourself it's Fort Bragg. Then like, like, no place is that dangerous if you avoid danger?

Yeah, yes, exactly. And one of these people that I was talking to was like, before I said that I was from Fava, she was like, I heard a gun shot last night near my house and I was horrified. And I was like, lady horrified. I was like, lady, right, you ain't made a Yeah. That was like, I mean, if if a day went by where I didn't hear guns, it was strange, Yeah, you would, you would notice it. I'm sad to say I know several people that were killed in gun violence. For that's

it's sadly we all do. Sadly, it's sadly the truth. I thought, i'mnna name anybody, but you know, right, yeah, well I stay home. I right, exactly exactly. In the studio. Do you love that John Mayer song Neon? Do you know it? Oh? I'm gonna show you It is one of the greatest songs ever written. Okay, cool? Was that a corny question that I just asked because okay, it was? Okay? Is it? I thought it was cool. I like when people talk to me about anything relative to Neon, or says NEONU,

It's been such a big part of my life. It's the chorus is she's always buzzed, and just like Neon, Neon buzzes when it's overpowered. So then maybe not such a good thing. That was just a nerdy you know, he wouldn't know that Neon buzzies. Yeah, yeah, I don't remember if we actually said this on the show or not. I brought it up before we've recorded. But like, let's just talk about the irony of like

how you are our last guy. I assume, right, we don't have anybody booked, right, you know, and you just happen to be here living here right at the house. But how crazy is it that you are a last guest in the old studio and you're helping us build the new one. It is really it's wild, right, I like it. I like it a lot. That's poetic, it is. And then the lips just happened. You know, new era, new time, you know, welcome to the new if you will. Yeah, exciting things to look forward to,

a lot of exciting things. Yeah, you know. I had a mind blowing thought yesterday. Well it was mind blowing to me. It's not gonna be mind blowing to anybody else, but I was just thinking about it. It's like you all were there. Y'all weren't there Sunday night, you and Junior, but y'all were there at the Azelia Festival. You saw you saw the response. I don't know if you were there Saturday. People were seeing orbs during the day and stuff. But like while people were seeing stuff,

I wasn't there. So it was during the day. You came through during the day in the morning right until like two or three. Well, you saw how the people were. You saw the positivity and the energy and just the vibe of the whole thing. And then I was just thinking about it. And it's like Sunday night. I mean, Nick, you were there, Alex, you were there, the spectacular light show we had, and the thought that came to me yesterday that kind of blew my mind,

and particularly thinking about Paul. You know, Paul Oglesby shout out Junior and Senior. You guys were telling me that like him reading, he had experiences wild experiences with orbs and different entities. Yeah, and exactly, and what got him through it to where he came out on the other side and realized, you know, rather his son was able to bond with him as they read our book and they're like, oh my god, we're not crazy. Or for Paul, you know, Dad's not crazy. So I had this

mind blowing thought yesterday. I was like, dang, dude, seventy people out there on the beach seeing this spectacular light show with us, and I realized, like, dude, we have hundreds of hours of content that we're putting out on our little show, prepping people for these moments to not only connect with what they're seeing, but like realize what they're seeing. It's like, sometimes I think that gets lost in the woodwork. We don't realize the

impact of what we're doing. You know, we have people coming to us being like I read your book, listen to your podcast. I know I'm not crazy. I know I'm not alone, I'm seeing things and it's like we really don't realize sometimes exactly what we're doing. And it's helping people absolutely. It's bringing people together in something that they're too afraid to talk about with sometimes their friends or their family, right their coworkers, you know. Yeah.

And one of the really special things about everybody being out there and watching with your dad is he is just so incredible at explaining to everyone around what they are seeing, why they are seeing it, and how to continue seeing it. Right. He always hits those every single time. I've heard him say so many times while we're with people seeing things like you can you can see this, you can see this at home. They're always there. They're

always there, like you. I don't know if you tracked the Azela fest tab and the discord lately, because it's been pop and off and we you know, we all have to go back to our normal lives and work and we get busy, but jokeing hitchhikers. Yeah, I mean so many people have gone home from that night and have been seeing daily now yeah yeah wow, yeah, crazy like they see it and then next thing, you know, us like they go home and it's like they don't stop right, Well,

I guess I don't even know what to say. They're welcome into it or something, you know, But I think I think it's just that's really important. I think it is a spiritual thing, you know, a very much a spiritual experience when you get to you know, see something. I want to put this into these terms delicately. When you get to witness something greater than yourself, you know, it's always a very powerful experience, you

know. Oh yeah, I mean it's like to behold something like that, Like that is that is something that is both part of me but also bigger than me. Yeah, it's that like we're all a part of it, right, you know what I mean? Yeah, Like it started with Dad, it started with Junior, but like it's it's it's for everybody, you know, Like I think people sometimes, or at least in the past, they classified us as like, you know, I don't know how to say

it, but like, like I don't even know what to say. But the point is, it's for everybody, Like we're seeing we're sharing it. But like everybody who sees it with us, I get this message all the time, or rather Dad does. Like people go out every night they want to see it. They want to see it. Then they read the book or they listen to the podcast or you know the few I say few, it's like hundreds at this point who have come and seen it with us in

person. All of a sudden, they go home and they're seeing it now regularly. It's like once you have that initial charge, it's like you're activing right, you know that they're seeing it. It's it's for everybody. It's we don't do anything special, we're not. We just go out there and pray and we believe a certain way and poof, and then people see it and it's like they're initiated into that connection and now poof. I mean, who knows how many people out there who are seeing it now? Oh yeah,

I mean yeah, look at my sister and her kids exactly. It was like immediately after your dad, Yeah, immediately after we all went over and saw those incredible lights, Like the next night they were texting me, oh my gosh, we see him in our yard right now. I guess the way I could put it is it's like the beings aren't they don't only care about us, They're they're not only coming for us. You know what I mean, it's for everybody, right, It's like a phenomenon of the

human spirit. Yeah, it is the infinite spirit that we all come from. Yeah, it's one and the same. It's for everybody. It's for everybody. Yeah, definitely, for everybody, for everyone. Uh So, how about we just glossed over, like when he was telling a story in the beginning, and it's it's a very jarring story about how he called the house and someone answered hello. The night of the river, he calls the house and a freaking entity answers the phone, like come on, Like we

didn't say what it was, but how wild is that? Like nobody was there? Nobody was there? And then left a note. I mean, there's a laundry list of crazy stuff like that that's happened. And the writing was so crazy on that note. It was just like, I don't know, I haven't seen any writing like that before. I think Dad told me Mom still has the note. Really, you know what, I bet she does. I bet you she does. Knowing Mom, I bet she's got

it, got that in a box somewhere, mind blowing. I forgot to ask, man, do you want to It's up to you, But do you want to go into your fascination with Egypt and hieroglyphs and those things. The dream you had. Yeah yeah, so actually okay, so you guys will see this if you go to my insta. But so poppy, that's right, neon period by pap I. Yeah, by the way. Yeah, So in LA one day, I went to sleep, and I'm a person who has interrupted sleep kind of, and I tend to wake up very

early, like always. He's literally waking up at four every day. He's here like that early all the time. I get up and then go to the gym for an hour, hour and a half and then come and work. Whoa, you go to the gym before doing construction work. That's hardcore. That's pretty I mean, that's what I do every day, right, you've seen me a month, you know. But it's just it's just the

way it works. So I woke up and I had this crazy dream and in my dream I was just seeing images of hieroglyph of the isis the Goddess isis? Whoa? And so I I got up and was like, I remember it was like three forty five, and I was like, I just I just got to research this. So I started typing you know, just looking up pictures and then looking up hieroglyphic tablets and then starting to translate them.

And then there was just one that I found and it said something like something like that, and I said the words, and when I said the incantation, it sort of like the lights went off in my house. Yeah, and I was like what, I freaked out, right, So I got up and was like, yo, this is crazy. And I was like pacing just thinking about it. And and so basically just this the spirit of her came in my dream and I sat down and I was like,

all right, I'm going to make a clothing line dedicated to her. It was the beginning of pandemic and I had, you know, I had money and time and no work, and I was in the house get all this equipment. And so I made an apparel collection with a tablet of hieroglyphs, and it's the original hieroglyphs and it is a prayer to the goddess. Isis asking for her magic, love, protection, and wisdom. Right, So I came up with a bunch of pieces. There's like the hoodie where like

the centerpiece, which is isis actually glows in the dark. The black wind glows green and the white wind glows blue, and they have like green and gold or blue and green sort of holographic and a bag and some pants and YadA YadA. I dropped the line and within twenty four hours it had sold one thousand dollars. Yeah, and I was like what And literally I just typed on Facebook like a collection, and I thought it was a vanity project. I was just like, I was like, nobody's gonna buy this.

I'm just keeping myself busy, heart beat. I'll show you the pieces and once I get my setup back together, because I don't have space for all my machinery right now. But once I have it in the order of operations types of thing, I'm going to start. I'll make you guys. I'm not trying to be for it. I have, I have, and I'm going to do it. You know, I will pay money for it. I still have a material. I just got to get your sizes and my

money. You know. It's a shame, man, he's been wearing one of those hieroglyphic shirts on the job and you just got paint on it, didn't you. I did, And I thought that was a very perfect full circle moment because really, yeah, because I had been wearing it. You know, I wore that hieroglyphic shirt on the job, you know, this last six months, not every day obviously, but here and there I'd wear it, try to protect it, but I'd wear it. Never got even

so much as a drop of paint or anything on it. And then on this job, I got paint all splattered all over the front, and I was like, that means it's time for me to remake these because that was the last copy of that black on black isis tea that I oh, no way. Yeah, So it was like a it was like a sign. Yeah. Now all of the pieces from that collection that I kept for myself are ruined, so I have to make more. You have to, Yeah, dude, Yeah, I gotta see that. That's so sick. Thank

you. I'm very proud of it. I'm you know, my friends in LA they're texting me all the time that like people are asking, you know, ask me about the hoodie. They want it, and I'm like, I so much work to make it. Yeah. I pulled the line because I was making everything by myself and it was a very complex thing, so I never thought that people were going to be buying my Can I say numbers? Oh yeah, okay, yeah, Like I was like, oh, this is stupid. Nobody's gonna buy my seventy five dollars T give. That's

what I was thinking in the moment, and then I dropped it. But if you look around like for for Good, a good quality clothing and be custom designs from an incredible designer, uh no, I'm not gonna let you be humble the whole time. I mean I might have to hit you with it. People. You see, that is a that is a fairly normal price for that sort of thing, you know what. It doesn't seem exorbitant. He's also pressing it all by hand. Yeah yeah, yeah, come

on, that's worth every penny. I think it was. But it was exhausting, so I had to sure. But I'm going to release another collection. That's uh. I'm bringing the fabrication down a tier and then bringing the art up a tier, so it's gonna be a nice trade off, but the same brand. Heck yeah, dude, Yeah, I will be waiting. I can't wait. Drip it on the show Man. Yeah, it's coming soon, just wait, just wait, wait on it. Yeah, not very much longer either. You know. That's exciting. Man. Oh

that's so cool. I feel like this has just been a fantastic conversation. It also flew by. I can't believe. Wow, it's already been over an hour. Yeah, thank you for having me. Oh my god, are you kidding me? And come back on any time. Well, I'm here now, and I'm so proud of y'all. Or like, this is awesome, you know, and the new studio setup is gonna look so dope. Pick the colors, Yeah, I've been there. Yeah, we went over there to kind of like look at some different colors and kind of make

decisions. And as soon as you stepped in and started giving your input, I was like, oh my god, he's right. Everything that he said. I was like, oh, that would be sick. Like your input was a little bit of his love is going to forever be in the studio. Oh that's right. Hey. You know I've seen a lot of sets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have experience a little bit. Yeah, you were out there for a long time. You have experience. It shows we're proud of you. I am very proud of you. Absolutely,

I'm glad you're home. Dude, me too, Me too. I always say this, like, it feels great to be back from the wild West. M it felt like the wild West hunh. It didn't feel like it was wild until I came back. That's the context. I was in the hurricane, that high of the hurricane. Yeah, damn, man, Well, I'm glad you're out of that hurricane. It was fun, you know, yeah, but it was just a lot. But selfishly, we're glad to have you back. Oh, it's safe to say we will be collabing

again in the future. Yes, yes, you know, and I know and we know you know. More on that later, but I think I think, I think you're gonna do some incredible things. Thank you with us and us with you, and yeah, you know, the sky's the limit, right, what sky? Exactly? Exactly? Man. Well, I'm very glad you're home. You are my brother. I don't think of you as a friend. I think of you as a brother. Yeah, I

mean you call my mom and dad mom and dad. That's my parents, bro, right, literally, you know, so you know how we sign off? Right, let's do it alright ready, that's your camera, right, okay there, all right, bye guys, guys. Weird things happened in the backyard of Letsoe House. You shit, it's so weird you're coming closer to, like Myra ling on the inside of it. No one knows, for I never thought again. Sad and happy