Weird things happened in the Weird, Weird Weird. Welcome to Bledsoe said, so episode one three, this is a special episode. We are joined by my brother, Chris Bledsoe Junior, I almost a senior. How you doing, Chris? Doing great? Man, I'm happy to be here, like, yeah, you look, you look. I love your outfit. Thank you, dude. I'll work just for you. The hat and the shirts looking flat spaced out, just so y'all you know, so you can all see it. It's Bloodsoe said, So merch Chris, Chris, uh.
Every time I see him, ever, and we live two hours away, every time I see him, he's repping. Oh yeah every day. Yeah, no matter where I go, I don't care if we're in church, I don't care if we're in taj Mahal. I'm wearing that shit. I love that. Well. We were just talking about before the cameras rolled. It's been almost two years since your episode came out. How do you feel about that? It's hard to believe that much time has passed. Yeah,
it feels like yesterday. It's wild. It's freaking sweet. I didn't realize it was two years. How's life been since? Oh? Since the episode, it's been it's been good. It's been a lot of ups and downs, but mostly good. It's exactly what I needed. Yeah, it sounds cringey to say it kind of, but I mean I needed it. It definitely helped good. Well in addition to just your episode, but generally since the podcast came out, Like I want to say, I asked Emily and
Jeremy the same thing. But how since since you know, we started going forward with thing, I mean, haven't you noticed the change in our life? Oh? Yeah, big time? Like in what way? Well, I mean I can only speak for myself in the moment, how I feel. You know, there was back in the day, I wasn't so open to everything. I'd get upset and freak out and complain if anybody even brought
the topic up. And since that last episode, you know, and well, since the start of all of this, let's have said, so, I've gotten a tremendous amount of support and it's just it's been good for me. It's helped me to open up. I can talk about it now and that's kind of amazing. Yeah, so it's helped me a lot, but it's also helped the rest of the family too. It's brought us all back closer, and we've always been close, I guess you could say, but
it's definitely brought us together even more. I think, Yeah, it's crazy when you hear that, or when I hear that, because it's like, man, we were just recording and putting it out there and had no clue it would have all that impact. You know, Well, it's it's nice to see that, you know, my family supports me, because at the end of the day, this was it started off as me and Dad we had these sightings and and I didn't know how that was going to go,
and it pretty much went the way I thought it would. I guess, you know, I knew that there was going to be a lot of family that wasn't really accepting of what we were talking about. But I see that the ones who matter accept me. So that's been awesome. Yeah, and Dad, you know, yeah, y'all got our backs. That's right. That's a good point too. Yeah, it's like the family that matters after all these years, have our back And dude, I mean, you could
tell them just as much as I can. There's still people. It still this stick that knife in about PROD and it's crazy. Yeah, they always have something to say, something negative or whatever, but it is what it is. Yeah. Yeah, that's been great though. So what was it like being on the set of the History Channel. Oh, Man, tell me about it. I want to hear all of the leagues different, like from the last episode that we did that was you know, there were just
two completely different feels. You mean Discovery Channel. Let's talk about that, dude, Let's talk about Discovery and History. Yeah, I mean it was so different. And in the Discovery Channel show, they didn't even bring us lunch one day, like they took our orders and then didn't even bring the lunch but brought everybody else's and ate in front of our in front of us in our house, in our house. But the History Channel they took care of us. They were great, you know, they were they were very
supportive. There was no judgment coming from them. I felt judgment from the Discovery Channel people. I mean it was clear that some of them. I don't know, it was just different. The guys are nicer, easy to get along with. They were all excited. We saw orbs on the freaking on the show, which which was awesome and it changed a lot of people's lives. The camera guys. I remember at one point the cameramen stopped what they were doing and the director asked the cameraman like, so what do y'all
think? And he turned the camera on them and they were all just blown away. They're like, you know, we came here not really knowing what we're gonna find, but now we're freaking believers. This is crazy. Yeah, that was was awesome. We didn't get anything like that on the Discovery Channel. It was they put us in a room and they asked us the same question a thousand times, with a light detective thing on us, Like, that's just you feel the pressure, right in a situation like that.
They weren't there like, let's yeah, you know. They were like, you're a liar, You're a liar. It's crazy, right, But it was. It was great, man. The people were awesome. They were so great. I'm just thoroughly happy with it. Good. I was real proud of you seeing that History Channel episode. How did that feel seeing yourself? Oh? I was nervous as crap. Yeah, yeah, I was
worried that. You know, my episode that I did with y'all last I didn't watch that episode for almost a year, just because I'm very critical of myself, you know, I'm my own biggest critic. But the History Channel thing, I watched it as soon as I could, like right away, and loved it. It was awesome. It was it was awesome. Yeah, it's super awesome. Yeah. I may do something again with him one day. Yeah, maybe we'll see, right, might just might just happen.
You never know, and might just happened. Yeah, what do you think? What did you think about all of it? I thought it was badass, man, it was. Yeah. It was like because I watched the first three episodes of the season because I was in anticipation of ours being the season finale, and I was excited. So I was like day one watching episode one, and then week two, and then week three, and week four comes around and I was like, you know, I'm good.
Honestly, I think I may have watched one episode before ours, right, that's my point. And I was like, Okay, well, maybe I'll just wait till our episode. I just wasn't hooked, you know, I mean, nothing was really happening, and we knew that when they came to record we were the last episode and they were like, we haven't really Yeah, you know, it's sensational, you know, like and then when our
episode came on, I was just blown away. I mean you could tell that they dumped like more of the budget to make it a higher tier of production. I mean compared to the three or four previous episodes I had seen, it was on another level. They certainly brought the gear with them. Yeah, they had some expensive equipment like that UFO Dad. That thing was awesome. Yeah. If I could be mistaken, I'm not a big tech guy, but I think they said that thing was linked to a supercomputer.
Yeah, and it was. It was an AI program cross reference linked to a super Maybe it wasn't a supercomputer, but it doesn't matter. It was linked to every flight database in the world. I mean they explained it on the show and it was crazy. It was. It was pretty cool. But beyond the gear, dude, the editing of the episode. If you go when you watch episode one or two through seven and then you watch our episode, it was like a completely different show. Yeah, Like definitely the
music, you know, the composing, the editing, the storytelling. I mean, they really went all out, and I was very proud for one of you and Dad. And then for two of the History Channel. I know that sounds weird, but for not screwing us over. Yeah, I was definitely worried before before I watched it. I was wondering what they put in of me, like what, you know, what was I going to say? I couldn't remember. I was terrified, nervous as crap, but
it all, it all panned out. Yeah. I was definitely proud of myself. For sure. You might not have caught this, but my voice was in it. Really. Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember that, but I did try hard to get get BLOODSOE said, so on it, I know remember that, Alex, Well you're not you're not here with us today. Yeah. We were freaking out, huh because Alex was here in Wilmington and Dad was here and you were home. So me and
Alex watched it with Dad and we were freaking out. I was laughing, dude, because I saw I knew you had warn the hat and it was blurred and it was just like, come on, I know, but the paperwork I know I did, but we tried. Yeah that's okay, you can totally tell it was our hat too. They like they didn't blur it all the way. Yeah. Yeah, they wanted me to wear a car heart beanie. I don't like beanies. I wear them like once a year. Maybe if I don't have a hat to grab, right, I would
have liked an idiot with that beanie on. So I had to rip my brother's stuff, you know, right, I appreciate it. Yeah. What was it like right down the boat? It was very cold. I came way underprepared. I don't know what I was thinking. I just brought one little jacket and I was freezing due. It was Jane, Yeah, it was. And we stayed all night pretty much, not not all night. We came home, I don't I think like one o'clock, twelve to one o'clock in the morning. Yeah, damn. Stayed out there pretty late.
And it was like thirty degrees. That's crazy. Yeah, you can't really tell from the video, but it was brutal. Didn't you' all do? Like ten miles up and down the Cape River something like that? Yeah, seeing orbs and you know I had drones flying around the boats and stuff. Yep, that's cool. Was that kind of crazy cool? Yeah? They were flying at nighttime with a drone. Yeah. I thought that was pretty cool. That's wild, dude. How about the book? Man? How
about so the book. Let's see we recorded in January of last year, and obviously it goes without saying my voice was in the show. I recorded with them too, Emily recorded with them too. We just didn't make the cut. That's another thing I was proud of because that episode focused on you and Dad and it was like the Discovery Channel thing came full circle. The crappy one from the past where they tried to smear you guys was dwarfed by
the History Channel one. It was a hit piece for sure. Yeah, but then it was like you and Dad got your spotlight that it was like righting the wrongs of the past. I felt like I was glad, I was cut. I was very relieved. And how crazy is it? We got freaking orbs on the on the History Channel. That's nuts. I might just have to go do it again. Yeah, well we will. It's
the opportunity are sooner than they think. But what about the book, man, So we recorded in January, then the book came out the following month. How do you feel about the reception of the book? Oh? Man, I thought it was great. I really enjoyed it. I haven't read it, but I listened to it, right, you know, I got count audible. Yeah, yeah, kind of. It's worth it. I'm a very busy guy and got kids, and also it's hard for me to
sit down and read. But it was awesome. I was surprised to see that I was in it as much as I was, because I was in it quite a lot. It was. It was tough. I definitely got you know, it pulled at my heart string, yeah, for sure, But it was freaking awesome. They did a killer job writing that book. Yeah, I did a killer job. And it's been well received. It seems from the rest of the world. A lot of people seem to like it. It's like a it's like a basically an Amazon bestseller. Yeah.
I think it was a bestseller in multiple categories. For some time. Dad was explaining to me, dude, out of thirty million plus books on Amazon, it was in the top three hundred of all books. Wow, that's wild. It's crazy. It's crazy to me to see all the things that are happening in our lives, you know, coming from somebody who was shamed and suppressed, tortured by the rest of the community, all the people that I looked up to when I was a kid, my favorite people that I
idolized. I wanted to be just like this person. I had several of them. I'm not going to name them, but all those it seems like most of those people tortured me the worst, right because of the UFO thing. You know, it's demonic and you know you should be talking about stuff like that. It's not real, you know, you're not. You had to have been on drugs or I just I got so much judgment, different things from everybody, and that was terrible. That's brutal. Yeah, I
don't care who you are. You know, when somebody that you love brings you down, talks down to you, that shit bothers you. But it feels like the book and the History Channel and all has kind of right, right that right, it's it's it's helped a lot. Yeah, it's come full circles vindicated me in a way. You don't feel like you have to explain yourself anymore, defend yourself, and I never really did anyway. I just it is what it is. I saw it, and that's what it
is, right. But I feel like that's all was supposed to happen. It was a part of our story. I didn't see it that way before. I was very very upset. I tried to run and I didn't want to talk about it. Now it's all I want to talk about. It's crazy. Yeah, So how do you see it? You said you didn't see it that way before. How do you see it now? Our story? Oh, I mean it's I love it. I didn't always, but I do know. I realized it's it's an important story and it's my story.
So I've accepted it. Good. Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that don't know me, and they don't really they didn't really see what I went through. But how did it? How did it look from your perspective? You know me? How how I received all those years ago? What do you think, like, how would you explain that?
Well? When I was a child, like from the ages of thirteen to eighteen, I was jealous in the sense that I mean, I didn't understand I was a child and I hated it, right, So just imagine, I mean, I this is kind of one of my major encounters. But I don't know if you know this story. Actually, do you want to hear it with the cow. You do know that one? Yeah? Okay, dude, I've listened to every almost every episode that's raight. You know every story I've ever told. Yeah, I forgot about that, but
I was always like that. You know, he didn't even want to be there. And here I am coming out with you every night and I'm not seeing what he saw. What gives And He's like, you need to freaking humble yourself. You know. I didn't want to see it, right, and I did. It's crazy because I thought I did. I did, but I didn't know. I didn't really know. Do you want to say? What you say? We'll leave that to Derek for Derek to explain, Okay, on his episode, he can explain it. Okay, you know
what I was getting at? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it was. It was crazy. Wow. Do you remember when we were little kids, when we lived in our second Gates fourhouse, and me and you and Jeremy would sit around and be like, what would you ask God if you were dead and you were talking to him? Do you remember what you used to say? I would ask God if aliens are real? Really? Yeah? Huh, I guess he answered, if you careful what you asked? For right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely that'll make sense when we tell
that story on a future episode with Yeah yeah, with Derek. The thing that you said, But no, it's crazy. That always seemed to be some crazy theme in our in our childhood, like we were always fascinated by life out there and that that's subject. And I guess we got more than we bargained for. But crazy, Yeah, I didn't know what I was asking for, right, I had no clue how hard it would hit.
It's you know, it's one thing to just to see something, but all the emotions that come with it, and all the people you know that come after you for telling it, that's the stuff you don't see. Right, It's hard to understand. But it's not all as easy and pretty as it seems. Do you get the sense that it's all destiny in a way? Yeah? I do now. Yeah, But you didn't then, No, I didn't, No, dude, I was I was a kid. I was a little kid, seventeen year old kid, and I was petrified.
Couldn't sleep with the light with the light off for many years because of this. Yeah, And I mean I'm the kid that would do massive jump on a four wheeler I would jump out of an airplane if if I had the chance, or go hunting in the woods in a scuba divor. Yeah, I'll go and shoot a black bear that's standing up in front of my face and feel and and and I don't feel anything, you know, I don't feel fear. Fear, Yeah, but that that that stuff will scare you
to your core. And just yeah, that's not the same kid that sleeps with the light on, right, It's crazy. Yeah, I couldn't imagine. Man, Like, I'm kind of lucky in a sense because you saw all this stuff and I mean, I hate to say it, but call
it what it is. You were basically traumatized. Yeah, and then I can see that, Yeah, and then us hearing about it, you know, I never really had that fear, So I just remember being, you know, after the experience hearing about it from you and Dad, I just rememb going out and walking into the woods to night and hoping to see it. I never would and I never would, and I mean I would. I would see orbs in the sky, but never you know, entities in
the forest or whatever like you did. I mean, I've ended up seeing stuff like that, but not back then. Time you wanted at that time, I was desperate. Yeah, that's that's what I mean when I say I was jealous, like I really wanted to see what you saw. And I mean, I've seen close enough, but you know, And then talk about full circle. What about January eighth of this year? What happened? Yeah? Man, that was wild. So on January eighth, I was
doing a job. For all those that are listening, I do construction just like my father he taught me, and I've been doing it a long time since I was sixteen, and I manage a small business kind of. And I happened to be working on Marsh Road, which is the exact same road that that spot on the river is on, on January eighth, which is it was my seventeenth year anniversary, I believe, Is that right? Yeah, seventeen years and you were seventeen when it happened. Then I was seventeen
when it happened. Yeah, So me and Derek and I think there was another guy there. I think, yeah, we had one more guy there and we were outside cleaning or cut material or whatever. And I realized that it was that day, and I realized that I was on that same road in that same spot on that same day, and something just told me to look up, and I did, and there was an ORB in the daytime flying. So I whipped my phone out and I took a video of it.
But I just I really thought that it was crazy that seventeen years later, exactly to the day, same day, in the daytime, in the same location, in the same location, technically, I saw another one and recorded it. Yeah. Crazy, Wow, What is the chances of that all that to just line up? That can't be for nothing. It's got to It was supposed to happen, right, Maybe not, Maybe it was all just coincidence. I don't know, but it didn't feel that way.
Yeah, that's pretty crazy that things lined up for that to happen. Dad says, you have a unique gift that we all have. You see him in the day. Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know that that's a gift, but it just happened. That happens a lot. I've recorded quite a few in the day in the last couple of years, right, And it's not always me who sees it the first time. One time Vincent saw it first. We were all in the in the backyard, sitting on
the on the swing pushing the baby. And then so it was like, what is that and pointed up at this thing in the sky and just I didn't think about this until now, but just like January eighth, there was an airplane flying at the same time as this object. An object clearly has no wings. It just it looks like a little tic tac kind of like a bright light. Yeah, I saw a light in the daytime. It's and you can tell it's not a craft. Yeah, it's not an airplane.
Shine a light, yeah, And an airplane flies by in the footage, so you can clearly see this is an airplane. This is something else. Both videos, wow, which is awesome. Context. Yeah, I don't see them a whole lot in the day. I'll be honest, when I'm out in the day every day. So there's a lot of people out in the day every day, all over the world, every day looking up. I'm saying that you'd probably see them in the day too, but you're not out in the day looking up like me. Right, I'm out there
every day. I mean that could be the case, could be I don't know. Or my thought was I do have a gift. Yeah, my thought was they appear to you that way to be disarming. So I'm not petrified. Yeah, possibly, you know what's crazy, I really don't get that freaked out anymore like I used to. I do sometimes, you know, if I'm like alone in the dark and I hear a bump and you know, or I can I see something out, maybe I'll start a freaking
out. And I'll sometimes freak myself out more than other times. But for the most part, it doesn't really bother me. If I'm outside and I'm by myself in the darkness and I see an orb, I'm just like, Wow, cool, another one good, just like anybody else. What do you think it was that clicked in your brain to where you weren't afraid anymore. That's kind of goes back to what we were talking about earlier. All I know, all this the episode I did with y'all, it's definitely helped
a lot, tremendously. All of it combined has helped me to talk about it easier. I mean, I moved all over the country. I moved to Kalamazoo, California, all over just trying to get away from family and UFOs and everything else. Is that why you left? I wouldn't put it on that, you know, one hundred percent. There was many reasons, but yeah, I hated it. I hated it, you know. Me and Dad got into it a couple of times, and it was all me.
It wasn't really him getting it. It was me. I would get anxiety when I when I would hear aliens or the top, it would come up. I would be thinking about the people were with and now it's got to be talked about. I don't know this guy, and it's often when other people are around, you know, and being young, I was always worried what everybody thought. I was worried about my appearance. I was young
and wanted to build a reputation. I was proud of my name and who I was, the family that I was born into, you know, and then all that kind of like pushed me down. I felt it diminished my reputation in town. And it did well. I mean, they did kind of do that to you on TV. So it's pretty reasonable thing to be disappointed about. Yeah, so I ran and hid and I went through some really dark times. But it's what I needed to go through. I wouldn't
change any of it. If I did, I wouldn't have what I do now, I wouldn't have beautiful babies and beautiful Jessica and you know, the business that I have and family that supports me. Who knows what our lives would be like if it all didn't happen. That's kind of I'll try to look at it. You realize ninety nine percent of the world has not been smeared on TV, right, Yeah, yeah, I know. That's not
normal, not a conventional thing. Crap to go through when you're seventeen, for sure, right, you know, and you're dating girls and making new friends, and that's the body knows. Yeah, that's the hard part. Everybody knows. And then you gotta worry in the back of your mind, do my new friends or girlfriends think I'm a complete freaking nut job, because they probably do. They might. If they don't, they're not going to tell you. And it's a wonder you have that just plagues the back of
your mind constantly. It goes two ways, and you can you can say, if I'm making this up. It goes two ways. They don't tell you that they think you're crazy, but you can see it in their eye. They tell everyone around you, yeah for sure, or they tell you you're you're crazy. Yeah, yeah, you know, or well, yeah that's the good way. That's a good way. I mean the two bad ways it goes. Yeah, they you either tell them and they don't react, and then they go tell everybody around you. Now it seems to be
that most everybody leans on the good way. Yeah, it does feel that way. There's just been enough that's happened publicly now that people can't really you know, you can say, oh, well it's a it's a seagull and the sun's flashing off his wings at just the right angle and it's making this little I've heard all that. But something's going on, right. I don't care what anybody says. Come out, come out in our house, you know, come hang out and SkyWatch with us, and I guarantee you will
change your mind. Guarantee it. It did it to the Discovery Channel, the History Channel. I mean, it's done it to pastors even, Yeah, true past Yeah. Do you want to tell a little bit about that? I mean I don't. I don't really want to, but I to give details. You tell it, Okay, Sure, so right now, Junior is actually I guess living with me is fair because you're living in my
house and I'm living in my apartment across the street. Yeah, so she's living with me for a month because I just closed on a house about two weeks ago and it's a nineteen seventies house and I have destroyed it. Yeah, just gutted the floors and gutted the floors and we're just doing a whole remodel job. So he's he's you know, he's he's a contractor. We're
gonna build it back better. Though. Oh yeah, no, I'm starting to see it, especially after today what we were, what y'all were laying on the floor and you know, putting that underlayment, that smooth, clean underlayment on top of that ugly old particle board from freaking nineteen seventy five. Like, I'm starting to see it in my mind's eye, it's going to look great. I don't have the eye for this, you know, I need to be several steps in before I really can start to visualize what it's
going to look. But it's I'm starting to see. But anyway, so he's living with me for a month, and it's it's been going great. I mean we've been having fun and there's been like barely any bumps in the road at all. It's just been smooth sailing. Last night we meet you and her Derek and two others and two others, my cousin Warren who's been on the show, and Ny Guy's buddy Nick. Yeah, everybody's heart throbbed.
Nick. We had a whole magic the Gathering night last night. They're kind of breaking me into it. I'm new to it and I'm new as well. Really two months in or so two and a half months, well, I'm two games in. Yeah, it's been awesome games and we just like camped out in my empty house. They're staying on air mattresses in the living room and I live across the street, so pop over there. And
it's been a blast. Man, just this this experience. And anyway, so since he's been here, Dad says, Hey, Ryan got a friend named Chris. He's coming to town Tuesday of last week and we're gonna go dinner with and then we're going to go skywatching. He's a pastor. And I was like, okay, sounds great. And we meet the guy very sincere, right, I mean, yeah, he was awesome, very humble. Liked him a lot. He was calm and thoughtful with every word he
said. He had a very reassuring atmosphere about him. I mean, I'm always I don't know how to say it, but I just I feel things for people, and what I felt from him was very good. I'm the same way. I'm the same way. I'm not going to go off on a tangent, but a lot of the time when people have done us wrong, I've been able to see it. You can, I can feel it in your good forehand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then I would tell Dad and other people like, hey, this guy you gotta watch out for.
Yep, he don't always listen. And then sure enough, you know, but Dad does what he wants. Yeah, there's been a million people. I mean, he's a smart guy. Yeah, so he knows what he's doing. He's ten steps ahead. Yeah, every time ahead of me, for sure. He's just always one step ahead. Yeah, I would say that I'm being modest. Yeah, but Dad's always plotting ten steps ahead, and he knows what he's doing, and he's not always telling you what
he's doing. And I'm like, Dad, this guy's you know, not not the one we're talking about, but just anybody, Dad, this guy's weird and dad also sees the best in everybody. Yeah, he does, you know he does. He has always had a problem his whole life, my whole life, anyway, of doing too much for people and allowing people to take advantage of him. Yeah, and it's happened time and time and
time again to family, friends, everybody. Like when he lost his business, he was just giving out every you know, just giving people waking from him. Yeah. Yeah, he was so good hearted, trusting. But I'm not so trusting, not after all what we've been through. How could I be. Yeah, he's definitely a very compassionate guy. He just he just would give you anything. He's he's really the real deal. But yeah, so this guy comes and we go to dinner with him, and just
very sincere, thoughtful guy. And he's a pastor over a really big church. Massive Yeah, and I'm talking to him. I'd like to get him on the show. But anyway, so we go out skywatching and it was like, dang, dude, it was within thirty seconds. Let me say something. So we it was a rainy day, right or it was going to rain the next day. Either way, there were clouds, a cloudy everywhere. Right when we left the place, we went to eat, we
were all talking about how this probably isn't the best day to SkyWatch. The clouds are everywhere, and you know, after five or so minutes of being at the beach, there were no clouds above us, but there were clouds everywhere else, right, do you remember, Yeah, I felt like the freaking cloud was just opened up for us. Yeah, probably didn't happen that way, but well that said the same thing. Yeah, like just the there was just a big ring of nothing right above us. It's cloud busting.
Yeah, I've seen it many times. Man and and dad will sit out there and it'll be a cloudy night and he'll be like John Alexander taught me about cloud busting, okay, Dad, and then we'll stare at the clouds and we'll think about it and they're gone. I think it's real. Sure has happened a lot by experience. Yeah, there's been a lot of nights out there where we changed that man's life. Yeah. Basically we got out there and within thirty seconds, as orbs appeared, they changed his life,
right, and he was just blown away. And it was such a nasty weather night that we saw eight orbs. Yeah, and he was like he was like, man, we weren't even out there for like thirty minutes. Maybe I don't know something. It wasn't long. It wasn't long because it's like free I think I've seen enough. I would say what we just saw was good enough. Yeah, he went his whole life and hadn't seen one and then saw eight. He was like, okay, we can go. Well, dude, I don't know if you noticed this. It was
like forty degrees freezing. He was in jeans and like a little it was like a denim coat. Dude, he wasn't in right. And he was standing out there looking at the ors excited and yeah he was. He was at all costs, I have to be here. And then at the end of the time he said, guys, I have to say. I mean, I'm not trying to complain about the cold, like I you know, I'm I'm no whip, but I think I've seen enough. Remember that.
Yeah, And then we got out of there and his jaw was just on the floor and he was just the nicest guy and he was like, I want to support you. No, it was awesome, and I don't I said, he's probably not seen anything his whole life. That might not be true. He told me he'd seen one ORB on his own. Yeah, and he showed me a video. I was just taking a step back. I think I might have misspoke, but I really believe he would be an awesome guest. Oh me too, And we're gonna probably get him on when
we get our new studio set up. I want to start trying to roll out guests more because we're switching our schedule around and sure, you know the guests that travel out of town. But it was super cool he told me that. I mean, keep in mind, this guy is a pastor over a church. Dude that is so massive. There's like seven hundred preachers, right, yeah, something like that. And he told me when we were walking off the beach, he was like, he was like, I've seen
a lot of things. I've experienced a lot of signs and miracles, but the one thing I needed in my life was that external you know, nobody just sees I think I'm going to go to and visits church one day. I want to go the one that he preaches at. You should And it's kind of crazy. One of the last times I spoke to a preacher about UFO is he was throwing holy water in my bedroom. Yep, that happened. They were putting anointing in, anointing me or my bedroom or whatnot.
Because of the UFO thing. They did it to Dad as well. Dude. I was in the room. I was like thirteen years old. Thirteen years old. I saw I'm not gonna say his name, and it doesn't matter anyway, but I saw, let's just say, one of our grandparents' previous pastors on dad's side anointing Dad, trying to get the freaking devil out of it. I'm sitting there, dude, I'm a child there too.
I'm Vinnie's age. Imagine little you know, little Vincent. I was that age, sitting in the corner of the room, horrified, like yeah, and that just means something's wrong with our dad, or the way we see it, something's obviously wrong if they're anointing him and spraying holy water all over. Do you know where else I've seen that in the Exorci the Exorcist, or Amityville Horror or some messed up horror film. Yeah, and I saw it for real, and Dad wasn't because yeah, I didn't know that,
But that's that's insane. They literally did it to me and in my room, because I mean, I told the story too. Yeah, I remember that story being told in a previous episode or so, but it happened to me too. That's damaging. Yeah, and I knew the preacher really well church, right, And now I know he's judging me. Now I know that he thinks what I saw is demonic? So who do you believe? Do you? I mean, I saw it? Do I believe the church
that they're saying that what I saw is demonico? They've never seen anything, so why would I believe them? Right, they've read a piece of paper. They're reading a piece of paper. But yeah, they don't know, right. That's sad. What's worse? It's like, is it worse that you're telling me I'm crazy and I'm a liar and you don't believe me? Or is it worse that you do believe I saw something but you think it's the devil? Right? What's worse? But how do you notice the devil?
How can you be so arrogant to say, oh, it's the devil? You don't know nothing. Anybody that's out there saying it's the devil, they don't know, right. That's just what they want to believe exactly. It's sad. You know, if you looked at scriptures from the Bible and you looked at most of the times that people saw angels, they were freaking terrified. They had fiery eyes, they're prostrate on their face, and fear, and the angel would say things like fear not for I am an angel
of the Lord, stuff like that. So obviously it was freaking that guy out. He was scared to death. Or they'd have a booming voice and they'd be in the spinning metal wheel within a wheel on fire with these animal faces. I mean, they're weird. So, I mean somebody who didn't know any better would think it's demonic angels certainly probably well, okay, I might sound like a hypocrite. I was. I was gonna say angels certainly are not pretty blonde boys with swords, But that did kind of see a
pretty blond lady, so maybe they are the sword, that's right. Yeah. I don't think anything is quite as they explain it, right. The picture that we have in our heads of Christianity and angels isn't quite what it is, what it actually is, I don't think so. I think so too. I think man has tried to explain it for a thousand years, and they've just kept explaining it and kept interpreting it so many different ways,
kept profiting all those Yeah, who knows what it actually was. We know what it is now, we know the picture of the church paints, but that doesn't mean that that's the way it really is. I can tell you that if it was a demon, it didn't jump in my body. It didn't take over me. I didn't start freaking and screaming and s ripping my skin off. Yeah. I didn't try and pluck all my toenails off,
you know, and put green. Yeah. Yeah, I was upset, and I might have cried about it, and it may have tormented me for a while, but it wasn't like that. You know. I want you to give your input on this, because it's your life and not mine. But I really do believe that it was meant to go down that way. I do too. This is gonna sound so weird. It was part of the story. I know that you're suffering was part of the story some strange
way. I know. That's that's what I was I was thinking earlier, but I couldn't really get out I'm not really great with words, but that's how I feel. I know that. I know that to be true. I had to go through all that to be who I am now. I think people who really go through a lot end up being a little happier than the average person. Yeah, you know, I think so I know what it's like to really go through some shit time, so that my normal everyday
life is great. Do you know what people tell me about you behind your back? Now? I don't mean then, no, it's not bad. I mean now what they tell me things like like, for example, Nick's dad, when you met Nick's dad, Roy, it's great, Yeah, you met him really. Back when we did that second episode, don't don't you remember we did that episode at Casey's dad's house on the back porch. Yeah, yeah, well I was wearing the tank time was hot. Yeah it was. I regretted that I wore that shirt. It's all right,
but looked terrible. Anyway. So back when we did that and you really had the opportunity to meet Nick's dad for the first time, y'all hung out that day, y'all got a lot of time together, and then after you left, he was like Nick Chris Junior is just the kindest soul I've ever met. I just looked into his eyes and I went home and cried, and there was a depth of his soul that I just can't explain. I
just want to be his friend. You know who else says that? My mother in law really, and yeah, and countless other people have met you, hugged you, interacted with you, and they're like, holy shit, he's the nicest guy I've ever met. Now, how is that possible? Why would that be emanating from you? It's because you've been through something harsher
and more severe and deeper than most people can fathom. And I believe it's like karmic retribution, Like the more you suffer in life and obviously heal from it and learn your lessons and come back, it's like the deeper your well of compassion is in your soul, Like there's an energy that yeah, yeah, comes from you. But I don't know. Well, it's nice to hear they don't all say bad things. I'm not the best, but I
try hard every day. But that's what I don't know. I think, Yeah, I mean, as much as it sucked, you were supposed to go through all that stuff, and even not just for you individually, but for the world, like to kind of to I don't know how to get the words out, and I want it to sound appropriate, but like to be the model for everyone going forward who learns about this. You and Dad that night. It was supposed to be traumatic, it was supposed to be
messed up and horrifying, but really it was good in the end. You know, sure something about that is just impactful to people. I mean just life changing. You know how many people message me because of the podcast, social media and all this stuff we're doing, and I'm like open to messages on multiple different accounts, and now the discord with like nearly four hundred people in there. You have no clue how many people I get saying I'm seeing orbs, I'm seeing orbs or It's like, oh my god, I want
to see them. What do I do? What do I do? What do I do? People desperate to see them? Yeah, little do they know when this began, when the phenomenon truly started in a acting and making themselves known to the world, they traumatized little old seventeen year old Chris, you know, and then everybody else. I want to see him? What do I do? It's like, are you sure, Yeah, be careful
what you wish for sure? You know. It's like, yeah, I don't know the time the truth's gonna come out, Yeah, when it's supposed to. I mean, it's crazy to me that the government's talking about it now. Yeah, I just can't get over that. Back in two thousand and eight, nobody, no, normal people are talking about it, not that I knew, right, No, they weren't. The government certainly wasn't. They weren't until like two or three years ago. That's amazing. Now
everybody's talking about aliens are so cool. Oh my god, you have a book. Yeah. We were pushed away because of it. Yeah, we were treated like lepers. Yeah, now we're cool. It does seem that we've done it. And don't you remember when we were kids and then we had people from NASA and people from the CIA coming around being like, you're gonna be tapped. Yeah remember that, throw that on top of the ship. You're gonna have satellites over your house forever. Yeah. As if we
weren't, you know, dealing with enough. We're already scared about it out of our minds, right, scared about the UFOs. And now we've got to be scared about the government too. Yeah, and that is a real fear. Yeah, they were telling us to be afraid. Yeah, like you should be afraid we're gonna be tapped her a couple of years ago. We would have killed you for this. Oh, I've heard that. I could put a bullet in your head. I've heard that too. Run you
off the road and kill you with a mac truck. Do whatever we want, make you disappear if you go talk about it, drop you out of a helicopter at thirty thousand feet. So that's why I went and talked about it. That's why I started the podcast. Nice it was, uh, you know, you're not gonna tell me what you do? Good? And then the other reason was to I don't know, I guess deep down I felt like if I was doing this, it would be like defending you and
Dad. But I don't know if it's had that effect or not. Yeah, it definitely has for both me and Dad, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. And I want to say, like we talked about the you know, how it was scary in the beginning, and how you saw or I mean not orbs, but entities you saw beings face to face from just a few feet away in the woods. And you know, people have read the book. I'm sure they know the story if they're listening to this by now, we don't have to go into all the details.
I know that was scary, but I don't want people to think that it's supposed to be scary. What I'm trying to say is I think it was supposed to be scary for you. Yeah, for some reason, I don't get it. I don't know why, but I've always felt like that was meant to be that way. I could never understand why, and that you would come around in the future and here you are. Yeah, it's crazy. And I still get a little emotional talking about that one, about
that particular incident, having to relive it and go over and all. It's still a little hard, I guess you could say, But it's definitely gotten a lot easier good. It's definitely. Back in the day, I literally couldn't talk about it. I really had a hard time. It was. It was crazy. It was a lot different. Yeah, I don't know why. If I ever even thought about UFOs, it felt like my brain was going to explode. We didn't talk about it for like five years.
Yeah, like I remember the night that didn't I didn't remember it being so long, but I'm sure it was, so I know, I'm sure. I'm sure it was. I just wasn't, you know. I'm not thinking about stuff like that. I know how old I was that both the first two times we talked about it, and I was thirteen and eighteen. And I wasn't exactly staying at home all the time back then either. I was all over the place. Anytime up you would leave probably was. Yeah,
Yeah, anytime it was brought up, I would leave. I would complain about it. I would yell or whatever. You know, I don't want to hear this stuff. Don't talk about it around me. Why do you always got to talk about, you know, stuff like that. Yeah, I don't know them. I don't want to talk about it with them. I don't trust them. I remember that. Yeah, So, what what do you think they are? They've heard what I think they've heard? You know what Dad thinks? What do you think? What do you feel they
are? You've you've seen them closer than anyone really well, for for a long time, for many, many, many, many many years, people have been seeing something I think people, even in ancient texts, have been describing beings, you know, that they called angels. I think that's what it is. What. I think we're seeing those same things that people were describing back in those old times. And I think that's what we're seeing. These things. I think they've been here for a long time. They've been
watching us for a long, long long time. I don't think they just popped in from freaking zebulin for a cup of tea. I think they, you know, I think they've been here. They've been orchestrating and pulling the strings for a long time. Yeah, what people would call angels, I think that's kind of what it is. I don't think it's exactly as you know, the Bible would say it, or exactly as your preacher would say
it. But it's complicated. Yeah, it's much different. Cool. I think that they, you know, can pop in an out of dimensions. I don't think that they're going across the universe. I think there might be another plan of his existence right here over top of us that you can't see, and they're coming in and out. I don't know, though, I
think so too, I don't. I mean, I don't know for sure, But from all that I've heard over the years talking with CIA and NASA people, I've heard a lot of different things, right, some crazy stuff. Well, Chris, more important than that stuff you've heard from them, You've seen it a thousand times more than anybody else on the planet other than Dad and your brothers and sister and mother. You know, you've seen it so many times that your brain is making these leaps and reasoning to paint these
models of how they behave, how you're observing the behave. I mean, you have a pretty damn good idea of what they are. There was a time, for a short span of time that I was having this sleep process thing, and I'll tell the story if you want to hear it. Yeah, I was. I would wake up and I couldn't move, you know, like any other sleep process thing, and I would just be looking around. I couldn't really move. I may have been able to move my head
out, I can't remember, but I remember. And the reason I say this is because I could see pretty much lame. One time there was a dresser beside my bed and on the floor I could see the red eyes of the beings that I you know, that I saw before and it looked like they were like peeking out from under the dresser. As stupid as that sounds,
yeah, I could. It was very dark and all I could see with those eyes, but it looked like it was ground level again, which i'd that if you know my story, I've seen that in and before, right. But I couldn't move, and I'm freaking out and I'm seeing these freaking eyes and then all of a sudden, I can move and they're gone, and I jump up and run into Dad's room. I think he was laying on the couch in the red room, which was across from your bedroom, Yes, And it was late at night, and I went in there
and I talked. I woke him up, and I was like, Dad, you won't believe what just happened. And he said, son, next time that happens, just say Jesus' name and uh, and everything is gonna be all right. And I think I laid down with him and went to sleep, you know, in there with him. Not on the same couch, of course, but I went to sleep in the same room with him. And you know, a time later, the same thing happened again. And there was a part that I left out. I could hear this loud
like it was it was moving my body. It was so loud, this vibration, this humming sound. It was like whoam whoa, whoa whoa. It was real, real, crazy, dude. It felt like it was vibrating my body. It was very, very loud to me, and all of it just freaked me slam out. But it happened again. I could. I open my eyes. I'm laying on my back and I could see these creatures and I hear that won't, won't, won't. And I said Jesus' name like I remembered what Dad said, and it went away. Wow
yep, And I went right to sleep. I wasn't scared. I felt comforted, and I just went right to sleep. And I thought that was so crazy, because knowing me, at the first thought of anything like that, I'm not going to sleep, I'm definitely not. But it worked. I don't know if you know. I don't know why or what, but it happened. Well. The one time I had sleep paralysis, I did the same thing. I said Jesus's name, and it was just like the demon or whatever it was. I mean, it wasn't like yours where you
were seeing something in your room. Mine was like a vivid nightmare that was like sleep paralysis, and it was some weird demon. And I said Jesus name and it was gone. Even in dreams, it works. Gotta be something to it. It's gotta be. Yeah. I don't know if it was just in my head, if I was dreaming, if those things were there, I don't know, but it happened. And when I said Jesus
name, it stopped right then. It's crazy. Yeah. I think a really powerful story is when you were about nineteen and you had a surgery and you were still on anesthesia and you were riding home and Mom over the story. I remember being told yeah, and I do remember seeing I remember bits
and pieces of it, but I wasn't all there. Right, you were riding home in the passenger seat of the car and there was like a mac truck in front of you and Mom and it's it was like hitting the brakes and the brake lights started lighting up and you were like, Mom, Mom is the eyes. And ever since that moment, Mom was changed, Like
you know how she is man. She goes through cycles of like, oh my gosh, this is so fun, and this and that and the other and then she goes through cycles of like I don't want to deal with any of it. But I think after that moment she knew at least that you weren't lying. That's what she always told me. Yeah, she told me that he can't be lying. He wouldn't have done that on anesthesia. I'm like, dumb, mom, He's not lying, never has been. It's crazy. I always knew that she thought I was a liar. Yeah,
that's I don't blame her for it. Anybody else that came out saying the same shit I was saying. I would have probably thought the same stuff, you know. Yeah, I don't get about it from someone else's perspective. It does sound crazy. It is fucking crazy, but it happened right. Yeah. I don't blame her either. I don't blame anybody really. The only ones I blame are the ones who are really hateful and go out of their way to keep sticking that knife in. Yeah, and they're still out
there sticking in that knife yep. But it's okay. They have their own place in the world and they need to be there. Yeah, it's true. Jenny wanted me to ask you, what have you learned from Teddy. What have I learned from Teddy? Yeah, I mean it spent about four years with him, though. I learned how to change a diaper. I can now put clothes on a baby. I can bay the baby. I learned how to do that. Yeah. I'm really good at like pushing a swing too. I can do that, really learn how to do that.
It's funny. Yeah, but as far as UFOs go, I don't mean that. I just mean in general, a whole lot. Yeah. I learned how to be selfless, how to take care of someone else first over my own needs. If you have a baby, all the things you enjoy doing, you might want to put them to the side for a while and you got to focus on the baby. Isn't the baby more fun than all that stuff? Though? Yeah? Yeah, I love it. So I have five of them if I could. Yeah, Yeah, I enjoy it.
It's great. He's in his little karate uniform, going to karate every week. Now. I love that. That's one of the greatest things I've ever learned. Seen him spar other kids, Uh huh. It's so cute, those little teeny punches. He's just running around in circles with his little karate gear on with helmet head to toe and he doesn't know what to do. Yeah, he's just running around, just runs right up to him and takes one right at the face. Just three year olds and karate gear.
It's funny. That's awesome, funny kid. Uh. You know, this weekend was Easter, and just I want to hear about that, you do if y'all can talk about it on the show. Yeah, I heard y'all had a pretty wild night. You do, I hear it? Ye? Did I tell you about it? I think so? Yeah, I think you may have told me a little bit, but you know, we're on camera, so well. I mean, yeah, this would probably be the best episode I could tell it. Yeah, this is the time and it
just happened. Yeah, I can go into that. So this past weekend was Easter. Today is April third. Obviously Easter was literally three days ago. So it's funny because I've had tons of messages. I'm getting comments on Instagram, YouTube being like, did you have a blessing on Easter? Did you have a blessing on Easter? I'm looking at YouTube today, did you guys have a blessing on Easter? Can you report? I'm getting emails,
I'm getting Patreon comments, I'm getting Instagram comments. There's been this mystique built up around Easter because of the lady and Dad having you know, profound experiences and things always happen on Easter every year. So short answer, yes, So here's what happened. I go to town Friday night. Junior goes to town two after having been here a week or granted we live two hours away from Dad or I do, and Junior is temporarily so we both go to
town to Fayetteville on Friday. Junior goes home. We get Teddy and keep him with us for the weekend, and that was part of the story that I was gonna explain. And we go out Friday night. Me okay, so here's what happened. So me and Jenny get to fayette Vilt around seven pe in and I get in the door and Mom's like, let's go to me Casitos. Let's get dinner, you know, and I'm like great, sounds great. We're starving, and Dad's like, god, I want to
go out on SkyWatch. I don't want to go waste time at a restaurant. I'm like, Dad, I gotta do normal stuff with mom too, right, Like, I can't. I gotta spend time with her and not make it all about this all the time. He's like, I know, but I want to go out on SkyWatch. It's Easter weekend. I've waited a whole year for this. I'm dying, you know. So we go to me casinos, we eat, and then we get back and he's ready. He's ready. Oh no, no, no, no, it's happening.
We parked the car and I'm packed in the back. I'm a big guy. You might not tell from the camera, but I'm like, I'm I have I'm wide, and I'm packed in the back of this little car with my wife and with Teddy's freaking car seat, which is huge. And yeah, yeah, it's there's not much space for me back there. And I'm like, I'm like cramped up in the car, like and and and we park and let's just say I was so cramped we couldn't get our seat belts on back there. We're just riding a mile down the road. We
parked the car. Dad steps out of the car. He's like, Ryan, Ryan, get out, get out now. And I'm like, I'm like, oh my god, stuff's falling out of my pockets because I'm trying to get up and my phone drops out into the dirt and I'm oh shit, and I'm reaching. I'm like, it's so dark, I can't see
anything. He's rushing me. I said, Dad, this, this feels like I just said it after but I was like, Dad, this feels like two thousand and eight, man, back when he was like shouting at us and get out of bed at four in the morning because it was so get out here now, desperate, desperate. Yeah, well, he and you know, lo and behold. I finally get out of the car and I scrambled to get out there after about ten or fifteen seconds because I'm so
packed in there. And there was this extremely bright blue and white orb like bigger. I've seen one bigger and that that one was enormous, as Teddy likes to say now it's his favorite word. Yeah, it says enormous. It's enormous. I've seen one bigger orb and it was enormous. It was the one I tell about in two thousand and eight on Dad's birthday. The morning of Dad's birthday in two thousand and eight, me and Jeremy and Dad and Emily says she was there too, but I just I just don't remember
it that way. It doesn't matter. And anyway, so I saw this orb that was huge. It was like literally could blot out the sky. It was so huge, and it was it was over the Christmas Tree farm behind her property. That's the biggest orb I've ever seen. This one a few nights ago. I didn't know that. It was like four in the morning on a school day and you might not have even went home. And Dad literally came into my room at four in the morning and was like,
get up, get up now now. And I scrambled and put my jeans on and I ran out to the back door. The biggest orb you've seen was two thousand and eight. It was so big it literally like, dude, I'm telling you it was I was thinking that you were saying that it was this weekend. No no, no, no, no, no. The one this weekend is the second biggest I've ever seen. The point I'm trying to make nice. Yeah, yeah, the one in two thousand and eight, it was it literally would have blotted out the sky. It was
so big. It was super massive, like a freaking mothership orb. The one this weekend was probably the size of like a beach ball or something. It was huge, I mean massive, and it was solid. It was stable. It was blue and white, and you know how it is. Normally we'll see orbits out in the woods around us and they'll flash. Yeah, and it'll flash, and then it'll appear ten feet away and it'll flash and then it'll streak. This one wasn't doing that. It was stable.
It was just a light and it was slowly moving through the woods and it would it would stop and react to us when we would get excited, and I swear to you do I had chills and I was looking at it and my jaw was on the floor. And it's hard to do that for me, man, and you and all of us. After you've seen thousands and thousands, it gets hard to blow your mind. And this when I had chills, I was like, that's an entity. That is a being walking through the woods, like I swear, dude. If I had it was
it was only about thirty or forty feet away. You know where Mom and Dad parked by the little basketball gold concrete. Oh so it was behind dad, behind the cop No, no, no, no, that Mom and Dad parked by the concrete where that old basketball goal is. Right. It was on that side of the road, though, that is what I mean. It was in the woods behind that. Yeah, towards it wasn't even property. Okay, it was towards the kitchen. Oh okay. We're right
behind mom and Dad's car where they parked. Wow, and the woods in there. And I swear to you, dude, like if I had walked into the woods. Oh yeah, because you were just getting out of the car. We just the car, dude, We just parked. And Dad bolts out the car and he's immediately like, get out here. Now. I didn't have time to think. I was fumbling to get out of the car, dropping all my shit, could barely even get out, and had to get the baby out. And then I get out and I could barely
even get out the car fast enough. And he'd been staring at it. And I'm telling you, it was an entity. It was a massive orb and it wasn't illuminating the whole forest around it. It was like it was a contained light and it was slowly moving. And I watched it for minutes, dude, And even Jenny was like, whoa, she was seeing it too. By the time she got out the car. Mom saw it, but then she ran inside because she had to go to the bathroom. And
I was holding Teddy and Teddy was like seeing it. And I was like, look, Teddy, Teddy, it's an angel. And Teddy was like, where where I want to see angel. I was like, look right there and he was like, oh my gosh, an angel. And Dad was like, Dad said, it's the lady. I was like, I'm telling you, it's the lady. It's the spirit of the lady. She's here. And then me and Dad and Jenny stayed out for like another few
hours. We got Teddy inside and then he would come back out and I'd be like look, look, and we're looking at orbs for hours and Teddy's like, angel, there's an angel. And every time an airplane would be in the sky, he'd be like, is that an angel. I'm like, no, that's an airplane. He was all into it, and oh my gosh, dude. We saw so many. So after we saw that one in the woods that I swear to you man, I was like this, I just felt it in my being. I was like, this is
an entity. This is not just some flash or like there's something there it's not what we normally see, no different. It was bizarre. It was calling to me like there was something there, and Dad said it was he felt like it was the lady. It's like it was like, dude, it's Easter. This is it like this today? Yeah, I mean it was Friday night before Easter, but still, I mean, it was like, this is it. Like I'm telling you. He was like, you have no clue. It was the same night as the cows. When I
heard the cows mowing, and I was like, this is stupid. They're just cows. They're neighbors cows. He's like, no, no, you don't get it. Same night Friday night, Friday night. He was like, son, this is a miracle. This is the lady. You just saw her. You just saw her spirit. And I was like, this time around, I know my lesson. I was like, I'll take it. It's the lady. I wasn't doubting, you know. And then we stayed out for a while and there were these yell they looked like yellow flames.
Dad calls them these yellow flames. I'm sure you've seen them. And they just flash all around us in the woods, all around us, in the trees, over the grass right above our heads. And then we would see the orbs in the sky and we would and we saw ones that were different colors. You know. Usually we see the orbs in there like a white light. Yeah, this night, oh, I forgot to say,
I forgot to say, totally forgot this part orange. I was so mind blown that when we saw what Dad said was the spirit of the Lady in the woods, the blue and white big orb that was slowly moving through the woods. There was a red light in there too, flashing. I was so transfixed on the blue one, but Jenny was mind blown by the red one. I keep forgetting about it. You need to get her to tell
you that there was a flashing red light in there. Then I came to your house the next day, remember, and I was telling you, and I was mind bow and I was like, y'all gotta come tonight. But you were busy, you had plans. Yeah, And we saw dozens and dozens and dozens of orbs on Saturday night, even more than the first night. We didn't see anything that was like the giant, you know, beach
ball size. It's just standard stuff, standard, but with a lot of excitement and flashes all around us for hours and Jeremy's girlfriend shout out Jackie, Jeremy's new girlfriend, who's absolutely wonderful when we love her. She's pretty cool, dude. She saw everyone. Yeah, well that's awesome. She saw every one of them. Now he doesn't ever have to wonder. Yeah, he was kind of nervous a little bit. He was at the end of the night. He was like, I'm not gonna lie bro. I was
a little that's how you know she's the right one. Oh, yeah, I've said that too. I was like, I said, I think I said that to Jenny. And because her name is Jackie. Why is it that every single one of us dates somebody with a Jay, Jackie, Jack, Jessica, Jenny and Jenny. That's weird, huh, isn't it? Yeah? Weird Jackie and jack That's how I knew it was the right one. Yeah, me too, Jackie immediately, Oh my god, it's meant to be. Yeah. But she saw god probably fifty orbs that night and
was just she wasn't freaking out. She wasn't like, I mean freaking out in a good way. She wasn't, you know, she was chill about it. She was chill she was open to it. I've seen people freak out. I've seen people get really excited, like freaking out. I've seen people break down and cry. Yeah, we've seen that together. I don't want to name any names. Yeah, yeah, no, she was cool. She was just seeing him and like whoa, whoa Oa. There she had the she had the psionics and she was all in on it, dude.
And then the next day they sent me a picture. Jeremy as a surprise gift, he bought her a podcast shirt. Next day, I get a let me show you, man. Next day I get a picture from her and she's a She's wearing the shirt, and I thought it was the sweetest thing. She's she's all in, man. She was initiated into the family that weekend on East Perfect. Look at that. That's awesome. Yeah, so now we got our crew. Jessica wears your shirts all the time.
Yeah, all the time. She tells often she rotates every day between your company, YEP and the podcast, and I love that all the time, dude. She's one of your biggest supporters. I know it. I know it, and I'm one of hers. But yeah, it was cool, man. Easter was definitely a miracle. It was unbelievable. And we saw so many orbs. I saw flashes, streaks in the sky. I saw blue orbs, orange orbs, green orbs, red orbs, white orbs. Apparently the Lady, although I didn't see, you know, a shining
woman like that. Saw it was a bright light. It's very unusual. But I'm telling you, bro, I mean, if this psychicshit is real, which I believe it is, I mean, the History Channel proved with Dad with the EEG scan that when he sees these orbs, they give him messages in his brain. And I don't question it, and I don't question that that may be happening with us too, you know. And I'm telling you. When I saw that bright white and blue light, immediately what came
into my mind was this is not an ordinary orb. This is a being. This is something in it was And then Dad was like, it's the lady. So that's what he was thinking too. Yeah, both of y'all thought the same thing, right, Wow. I wasn't thinking it was the Lady. I was just like, this is a being, this is not normal, this is an entity. Well, emit light, the way it moved was freaky. It was methodical and reacting to me and would flash at me and then move a little bit, kind of bob and I went back
the next day. There is nothing in that line of sight. There is nothing. Yeah, there's nothing back there. You'd have to go, you know, just woods pretty five hundred to one thousand feet to the right or to the left for there to be any properties. And you could see that what you were looking at was right there, right, yeah, straight back where I was looking. There was nothing somewhat close, so it was very
person shining some sort of light. There'd have to be some dude in ninja suit with a flashlight for that to have been replicated there, and even replicated it right, it would have illuminated the whole forest. It wasn't even doing that. It behaved different anyway. People wanted to know if something happened on Easter. Yes did Yeah, that's wild man, It's bizarre. Yeah. When you when you came and told me about it that next day, I
was kind of mind blown, but at the same time not right. You know, some always happens around Eastern always, yep, always excuse me, always, Well, dang man, do you have any other questions for me? I don't think so. I feel really good about everything. I mean, how about you, you feel like you? I feel great. I think I did all right. Yeah, I think you did excellent. I probably look like a ding dong today because I didn't shave real pretty, But
Derek thinks I look good. Derek, he's sitting with us. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's going to make a great episode. Absolutely, d He's been watching for close to twenty years. From the outside. He knew me before well UFOs, yeah, and well from this idea, but still, you know, he knew me before, and he saw me after and during through it all. Yeah. Yeah, he can tell you how it was, how I am, what's happened, how I've changed it alway. It's always crazy to hear him explain it to me. Yeah, I'm looking
forward to it. You feel resolved, like you, man, I do. I do feel a lot better. I used to tell myself that I would never tell the story. Yeah, you know, and I didn't for many, many, many years. So it is crazy to be in the public eye talking at all. For me, it's crazy. Yeah, well I had other plans. But I like it. I mean, I feel like it needs to be said. People need to know, even at at my expense. You know, I may, I may look in a way that I don't care to look like, but people need to know. Yeah,
it's true. It's to hear the truth. You went through all that for a reason so that you can share it with other people and enlighten them. Yep. So something is going on. There's, without a doubt, one hundred percent, something freaking crazy going on, and people need to know they can decipher it for themselves. You know. I tend to think we haven't even scratched the surface and that it's gonna get crazier and crazier. And
this past Friday night was a major indication for me. Oh, we haven't mentioned this yet, so this is going to air after the fact, but I just wanted to say this weekend, so right now it is Wednesday, April third, when we're recording this. Also, how about that we're recording on a Wednesday. Pretty sick, right? It used to be Saturdays three in a row up till late at night. I mean, this is nice, man, We're living the life since Nick lived here, moved here.
Excuse me anyway, So this weekend is the Azalia Festival. Junior's coming Dad, Mom are coming, Derek's coming, Alex is coming, Nick is coming in, Casey and then Jeremy and then me and Jenny and Emily will arrive Sunday because we have an event out of town. But my whole point is, I'm so excited because I talked it over with Dad for the last week
or so and we agreed that Sunday night. All the people who are still local, who've traveled from out of town, I've put the word out in the Discord, and anybody that I happen to see at the booth on Sunday, I'm gonna be spreading the word, like pulling people aside. We're organizing a SkyWatch on the beach. Did I tell you about this? Oh? Yeah, Sunday night. Yeah. And if you can't be there, that's okay. I mean, if you got to go back to Favue Sunday and
come back Monday, that's fine. But it's for them, you know, because I wish we were doing it Saturday night. You certainly can. I just won't be there. Yeah, I can't organize it. That sucks, but you know, I mean you can. Me and Alex is saying they can't. Yeah, that's up to you, guys. You do whatever you want to do. I'm just saying I'm gonna be there Sunday, so I'm organizing it for Sunday. Perfect. Dad'll be here. Y'all talk amongst yourselves
and figure out what you want to do. We'll see what happens. I mean, you're gonna be exhausted. And I think the AZEA fest ends Friday and Saturday at like ten pm and then yeah, yeah, I think so Friday and Saturday night. Yeah, but then Sunday ends at like five or six. So that's why it's a little easier. On Sunday, we're gonna be working it don't get dark till eight anyway. Yeah, but I'm just saying the festival is gonna end at like ten. You guys are gonna be
too exhausted to go entertain crowds of people that I'm just speculating. You do what you want to do. I'm just saying I plan Sunday because I'll be there Sunday. We may be able to SkyWatch it the tent. I'm probably gonna be pretty bright. Hey, I mean, anything can happen, bro, anything can happen. I have seen orbs downtown when I saw Robert Plant and Alison Krause. I've told this story recently on the message of the music episode. Yeah, I mean we will be on the Cape Fair River.
Yeah, I've seen Orbs over the Cape Fair River, over Robert Plant. And that was the night that we got the confirmation of the the we got confirmation that the motion picture was ideal. I saw Orbs that night really over the led Zeppelin singer. Yeah, Covert Plant, he's still alive and he tours. I know Emily has seen Orbs at a concert, and Jeremy as well. Jam and Jeremy Yep, Yep had a crew long been wanted to
go to a concert, then an outside venue, an outside concert. But anyway, my whole point is this, by the time this episode airs, it will have already happened. But I just thought you guys would like to know the update. We're trying. We really do care, and we really are sincere when we say we want to do some sort of public skywatching thing, but our lives are just so busy. This is the perfect opportunity. People are moving from out or coming in from out of town. I was
very moved by that, so I've already put out the word. If you're in the discord, you've already seen all this, and we're going to try to do some sort of public skywatching thing if the weather's good. So hopefully that'll go well, and if so, we'll talk about it in a future episode. And either way, we'll talk about it if we get to do it. So I'm excited about that. And otherwise, man, I mean, I think it's been an amazing episode. I think it's probably the best
one yet this one. Yeah, best one with me? Oh, the best one yet, best one with me? Perfect? Seriously, I doubt that. But we'll see. It feels good, we'll see, we will, you know. But the last one was pretty good. It was epic. Yeah it was yeah, yeah, I really I really dreaded that episode before it aired. I thought a lot about, you know, do I really want to do this? Do I not want to do this? But then I didn't want to let you down and and I kind of I knew
it needed to be done. But you know, from my own image, I'm a business owner and a new family and all, do I really want to do this again? But I'm glad I did good. I'm glad I did good and and I didn't watch it for the longest time. I know I said that, But when I went back and watched it, I was proud of myself. I did good, Yeah you did. I was worried for nothing. Yeah, you did really good. I thought so too. I worry about every single piece of content we ever put out for nothing good.
You should? No, I mean I worry, ask Alex, well you should? You should care? That means you care. Well, it's not care, it's worry, like, oh my god, I'm gonna ruin everything. It looks bad, and this and that and the other. It's just anxiety. It's just my own worst enemy. It took me till three years in to finally stop asking all the time. Was that a good one? Yeah? You know, it's just natural. Now I still think it, but I just don't always ask anymore. But I think you're right.
It was a great episode. Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, this one's gonna go down. It's gonna throw down, and then we're gonna hold down. Yeah. I'll be there for the holdown. Yeah. This weekend? Sweet? All right? Man? Well you know how we end them? Right? Yeah? You do? I think so? Bye, guys, Yeah, together to them all at one time. Yeah, all right, bye bye guys. I love my cheesy ending Richmond. Yeah that's great.
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