Weird things happened in the weird weird weird Yo. Yo, hey hey hey, hey, hey hey hey they are pard What a wonderful day. What a wonderful day we have upon us. So it's a wonderful day, folks. Alex had the idea. A lot of good ideas stem from Alex's idea, and then we take them and we shape them to what we really want, and then we take credit for them. Yeah. I wouldn't do all that, but I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Alex had a pretty kidding I give no, I give you all the credit. You. I worship you.
Put the camera on me, put it on me. You got it all right. I'm bowing before Alex. It makes you feel better. Thank you. You're the god of ideas. Kiss his ring, Give me your rum and coin. I'll kiss that. You got it on you. Wow, it's the it's on the nice stand, on the altar, if you will on the on the thing. So Alex had a good idea and it was to do an episode about led Zeppelin. And I was like, that's
that's cool, that's that's a really good angle. And as the days went by, I started thinking about it and I was like, Man, why don't we expand that and just make it more so about the message, the message and the music. This is something that I'm not sure if we've ever talked about on the podcast, but there's a little known element of my dad's story and how it is connected to music. So I'll just tell that story
and then we can go from there. When I was in high school, so particularly like senior year, so I would have been like seventeen, maybe twenty eleven, and Dad started becoming really obsessed with led Zeppelin and just playing it every day in the truck. He'd take me to school, picked me up from school, and it was all led Zeppelin, led Zeppelin, led Zeppelin, Aha, just obsessed like that out of nowhere. My whole childhood.
I never heard him utter the word led Zeppelin, and all of a sudden, boom, it was all he ever wanted to listen to, like suddenly, out of nowhere, sudden, and I you know, come to find out he liked him growing up, but when I was growing up, it was all like Aerosmith, Van Halen, dr Cash, Like it was never you know, led Zeppelin. It just completely in my life. It was out of lead field and he just couldn't stop playing it. And I liked it, you know, I thought it was cool and and really enjoyed
the music. And so about a year goes by of this every day led Zeppelin and then he, you know, sees the Lady and he starts getting these messages. Yeah, the Lady came when I was eighteen, a year later after my senior year of high school. I was a freshman. It's crazy. He just like got a bug for led Zeppelin, like a year before all that happened. Yeah, wild, And then the Lady or however
you would imagine they communicate to him. I mean, they kind of hit on it in the History Channel episode, tells him that there's a message in the music, particularly Kashmir the Battle of Evermore after the Gold Rush by Neil Young. And then he noticed the song I Think It's Love Walked In by Van Man. So he started to become obsessive about particular songs and the message. And we'll get to the lyrics in a bit on all of those songs, and even Stairway to Heaven has a shining Lady of Light. And he
started to become obsessed with this concept. And then I guess a year or two goes by, and then there's this UFO researcher by the name of Grant Cameron. Back in the day. He came to our property, probably around twenty thirteen, and he starts investing, maybe twenty twelve actually his original visit,
and he starts to investigate our property. And there's a story that I don't know if we've ever talked about this on the podcast, but anyway, so Grant Cameron's in town and at the time, in twenty twelve, UFOs was still a very niche subject of conversation, and he during this time period was accredited as like the world's number one UFO researcher. He had some sort
of award from some sort of thing. I don't know. They'd be throwing hell a UFO conferences and patting each other on the backs and stuff, and it's it's anyway, So he shows up and it was kind of like, oh wow, he's gonna investigate us, like kind of a big deal at the time, you know. And he sticks around for a little bit and then he leaves. He has to go to Florida or something like that. He comes from Canada, and then on his way home, he's like,
hey, can I swing by again? And Dad's like sure, and he, you know, swings by and the second time he's at our property. This is the story where he's out in the backyard talking with Dad and Nelly's neck slash. Yeah. So I had this black labrador named Nelly that actually I named after my great grandmother, Nelly bled So And anyway, she was just the sweetest little dog and she had just a mysterious she just started shooting
blood, just squirting blood. Yeah. I think that it was like they were like talking in the backyard and she didn't she like run inside or and she was projectile squirting out of I don't nowhere. No, she was just wagging her tail one second, the next second she's squirting blood. My dad tackles her. He thinks she's dying. Go get a rag, somebody help, you know, And they start struggling. What do we do? Do we call you know, nine one one? Do we call the vet?
Like she's gonna die? And they're freaking out. It was a lot of blood. It was a lot of blood. Yes, I have pictures of it, Like she may have bled out. Yeah, at least that's what they thought. Yes, And Dad just kind of praised, like, God help me, I don't know what to do, and he sticks her hand on her neck and then the bleeding stops. His hand put his hand on her neck, yeah, to like stop the bleeding, right, and he's like, God help me. I don't know what to do. And then
the bleeding stops and the slash disappears. He said he felt something come from him into the dog. Next thing you know, she goes limp and then she's kind of wagging her tail and she's fine. She's totally fine. The bleeding is gone. Now Grant Cameron was like, what's this happen? What? How do you explain that? Right? Right? So he gets this bug from my dad. Oh my god, this is real. I saw
something crazy happen. And he starts coming around more often, calling my dad all the time, asking like every question you can imagine under the sun. And one thing my dad keeps telling Grant is there's a message in the music. Look at After the Gold Rush by Neil Young at Kashmir, look at the Battle of Evermore and Love Walks In by Van Halen. So next thing
you know, Grant's like, okay, interesting. Then he starts digging and he starts going into interviews from famous musicians from as far back as like the seventies and finding out that a lot of them at some point in time said in an interview that they were inspired by UFO encounters. Right, so they're saying I can't. Grant Cameron found that Yes, after Dad saying there's a message in the music. The phenomenon is in inspiring the music, Grant goes
and he determines a connection. Whoa next thing, you know? He goes on to write an entire book where I think it's called let me find the name of it. I don't. Isn't that funny that you are following the trend, which is the connection between the experience direct experience with the phenomenon and music. The book was called Tuned in the Paranormal World of Music, and he credits my dad as giving him the inspiration for this entire area of research.
And he finds out that a lot like I think Bruce Springsteen was one of the names, and a lot of other artists saying, oh yeah, I saw UFO and it inspired me for these lyrics or whatever. And then it gets deeper. So down the road, we start hanging out with you know, especially around twenty thirteen and beyond, we start getting more involved with people in the CIA, and then we get introduced to characters like John Alexander, Jim Simmy Van and you know, their regular characters in our story.
And at some point, I honestly, for the life of me, I can't remember which of the two or if it was one of their mutual friends that we knew said it, but one of them indicated to us that a CIA scientist named Kick Green actually gave the lyrics to led Zeppelin. Huh to like see prophecy into the world. Okay, what so, yeah, we're going to read the lyrics, but before we do that, I wanted to show people that there is a genuine led Zeppelin connection with my dad. This
is an excerpt from his book, chapter nineteen. This is completely out of context, but I'm just gonna read the excerpt so you know, I'm not just blowing smoke and there's a led Zeppelin connection. Dad says. I didn't sing out loud for fear of ruining their investigation, and also because there is no imitating the vocal acrobatics and falsettos of Robert Plant and Sandy Denny on the
Battle of Evermore. I chose that song because led Zeppelin was huge when I was a kid, but mainly because it was longer than four minutes and I knew all the words already. So I'm gonna jump around a little bit in the timeline and when I'm done with the story, then we'll go to the lyrics and we'll move on. So obviously, and for very obvious reasons, led Zeppelin is like a big deal in our house and with my dad and his story, and so I kid you not. So it's twenty twenty four
now, February. Last April in twenty twenty three, was you know, Dad announced the motion picture back around like I don't know, m October, December something like that. But he'd been daily working on it since April of twenty twenty three. And I kid you not. The night that I got the text, we have a deal. I was at a Robert Plant concert right that's right here in Wilmington. Robert Plant is still alive. He's the
original vocalist for ledg Zeppelin. He's literally still touring. He tours with Allison Kraus. They make new folk music together. It's really pretty. And I was seeing him live at a venue here in Wilmington, and for me it was a big deal. Oh my god, I gotta see Robert Plant. He's coming to town, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And I go to the concert and I'm just thinking, like, wow, what a crazy moment like that, I get to see him live, and I'm getting text
from my dad about the deal. And then I look up in the sky and over the venue, I saw three orbs. So that's so insane, and I was like, Okay, this is weird, Like that's a that's the phenomenon, like confirming that connection. You know, You're you're there seeing Robert Plant after being like basically told by the phenomenon itself that there's a connection, Like obviously, like the lady didn't come down and was like, yo, you need to listen to led Zeppelin right right, But like he always
knew that there was a connection there. Yeah, he always knew that there was a message in that music. It was obvious that it was inspired by the phenomenon. And then if you had any shred of a doubt in your mind, you're there seeing Robert Plant, getting text messages just from your dad about that and seeing orbs at the same time, exactly, like it just wiped out any shadow of any doubt exactly. So let's look at the lyrics for Kashmir. You ready, I got actually either way? Oh go ahead,
Kashmir. If there's anybody listening or watching that is maybe not super familiar with led Zeppelin, Kashmir gotta be one of their best songs of all time. Oh yeah, ca, and you've probably heard it too. Like there's a few songs that even if you're not familiar with the band, you've probably heard these songs. That's gotta be one of them. Oh yeah, such a good song. So these are the lyrics for Kashmir. Oh let the
sun beat down upon my face and stars fill my dream. I'm a traveler of both time and space to be where I have been, to sit with elders of the gentle race. This world has seldom seen. Okay. They talk of days for which they sit and wait all will be revealed. Talking song from tongues of lilting grace. Sounds caress my ear, and not a word I heard could I relate? The story was quite clear, and it says, oh baby, I've been blind. Yeah, Mama, there ain't
no denying. It's kind of like the verse or whatever. Ain't no denying. I've been flying. And then it says, all I see turns to brown as the sun burns the ground, and my eyes fill with sand as I scan this wasted land, try to find the way that I feel. O pilot of the storm, who leaves no trace, like sorts inside a dream, leave the path that lead me to that place, yellow desert stream, my sh angry law beneath the summer moon. I will return again as
the dust that floats high in June. We're moving through Kashmir, Oh, father of the four winds, fill my sails, cross the sea of years with no provision but an open face along the streets of fear. Oh when I want, I'm on my way. Yeah, and my feet wear my fickle way to stay. And then it's just like oh yeah, yeah, I'm down. Oh but it's it's like prophecy. It's like, first of
all, it's talking about elder beings of a different race. This speak a language that only a few can understand, which is like, okay, maybe that's weird. If that doesn't do it enough for you, let's go look at Battle of evermore. Oh no, no, no, wait, hold a hold, hold the hold up. There were multiple things there, like the let me see the lyrics real quick. He said something about like my feet are my fickle way to stay. Let me see, let's see where
was that? Okay, another thing shangri lob beneath the summer moon that hit me across the sea of years with no provision but an open face along the straits of fear. Here it is. And my feet where my fickle way to stay. Oh, when I want, when I'm on my way, my feet wear my fickle way to stay. That that reads to me as like feet being the fickle way to stay is like being grounded, like witnessing this this like this phenomenon, or witnessing this like infinite power, this infinite
wisdom, these these people beyond the stars, or this gentle race. Yeah, the elders, the elders, this gentle race of elders. Like that. That sounds like this person whoever is like telling this story, is having a profound experience with the phenomenon and feeling like the separation from the material world
and the spiritual world. But I'm a traveler of both time. I'm in space to be where I have been, right, Yeah, and that's that's also really wild, like time is a more ethereal, abstract concept, whereas space is more it's more material. Like time is immaterial, space is more material. You know. That's that's kind of the vibe that I'm getting from that. To sit with the elders of the gentle race, the world has seldom seen obviously, that makes me think of the phenomenon. Absolutely they talk
of days for which they sit and wait. All will be revealed. That makes me think of like Age of Aquarius. Yes, exactly, all will be revealed, a new knowledge. And that the part when he says all I see turns to brown as the sun burns the ground. If you recall, that's the part in the song where it sounds very clearly Egyptian I'm talking
about. Yes, Like I know that sounds funny, but if you go and you listen to Kashmir by Led Zeppelin and you listen to the song, there's a part that's like, Okay, I feel like I'm an ancient egypt Yeah. No, I mean they use like citars and there's they had like a whole symphony for that song. Right, there's viole lens, there's sitars, there's like all sorts of different instruments, so I want to stress though.
The main song that was given to Dad by led Zeppelin was Battle of Evermore and Then and real Quick before you go on the Kashmir was the song that made me write down the idea to bring to the meeting to have this episode. Really I figured it out listening to y'all talk about it. Wow, wait till you hear this one, thisvermore uh huh. First lyrics, The Queen of Light took her bow, Wow, and then she turned to go. The Prince of Peace embraced the gloom and walked the night alone.
Oh, dance in the dark of night, sing to the morning light. The dark Lord rides and forced the night, and time will tell us all. Oh, throw down your plow and hoe rest, not to lock your homes side by side. We wait the might of the darkest of them all. I hear the horses thunder down in the valley below. I'm waiting for
the angels of Avalon, waiting for the Eastern Glow. WHOA. Now, if we know anything about the King Arthur Mine, if Avalon is like Heaven, right, which is this is a mystical tie to you know, you can say King Arthur Templar's kind of like Masonic imagery there talking about the Eastern glow. Well, in the Bible it talks about when Jesus returns, it's from the east, or it's the sun of the morning, the sun it rises in the east, and so shall God or Jesus or whatever return in
the east. Is it literal? No, about it was something else real quick, all right, Lord of the Rings two Towers, Gandolf was gone for all that time, and he said three days time I will return. Look to the east. Yeah, he looked to the east. They came down into the valley, thundering with horses the road here him Like that was like low key, like the I mean, Gandolf is the Jesus character of Lord of the Rings. Like that's that's almost identical to the Battle of Helm's
Deep. They're gonna there's a reference of Ring Raiths in the song too. They were obviously huge Lord of the Rings fans. Oh yeah, So they have multiple songs that are I'm waiting for the Angels of Avalon, waiting for the Eastern Glow, that apples of the valley hold the seeds of happiness. The ground is rich from tender care, repay, Do not forget, no, no, oh, dance in the dark of night, sing to the morning light that apples turn to brown and black. The tyrants face is red.
Oh. The war is calm and cry, pick up your swords and fly. The sky is filled with good and bad that mortals never know, which for me was like, Okay, my radar's tingling, Because when I was a little kid and we started seeing this phenomenon, Dad always told me, I say, yeah, bro, like there's angels and demons in the sky that we can't see fighting all the time. Right. Dad always said that. He was like, it's like the scripture, Son, I don't
remember the character Jacob or something. He's like, and God opened his eyes and he could see all the angels in heaven. It literally says the sky is filled with good and bad, that mortals will never know that. Just that imagery comes to my mind. This quote, I think is the most important quote, and it's something that Dad raised me on to never fear bad times. He said, the pain of war cannot exceed the woe of aftermath.
The drums will shake the castle wall, The ring raths right in black, right on but specifically, the pain of war cannot exceed the woe of aftermath. And the way I've always been made to understand that is like whatever bad time, I mean, even if World War three were to theoretically happen, it's like things can only get so bad before there's intervention from the light.
You know, It's like it's gonna get I mean potentially, I don't know the future, but like there's all this fear mongering in the world, and like, dude, today we lost AT and T service and there's a million conspiracy theories, oh chinas he and pianists. I mean, everybody's panicked about everything that ever happens because AT and T you went down for two hours. I'm telling you right, people are panicked about everything on from every walk
of life. Everything is like this little panic trigger that makes people freak out. And I'm not going to weigh in on that one. Oh my god, I'm not gonna feed I'm not keeping myself. Yeah, don't feed the fear, That's what I'm saying. Who cares if they're if they're in p and US, great, I'm just gonna stay here and play my steam deck off the Wi Fi. Like I'm gonna enjoy myself. Yeah, you get your A D n T conspiracy anywhere, you're not gonna get it at Bloody
said not today, And you know I'm not. I'm not knocking people that that spread that theory. My point is the world is they're always no, I totally get it. Yeah, that's why I'm siding with you here. Everybody's in fear of everything, and it's like there has to be a point when it's only gonna get Like, obviously the world is bad, but it can truly from a cosmic perspective, only get to a point, yes, and then the balance is gonna shift. There's a balance, there's a universal
balance, and and that's how my dad has always interpreted that line. The pain of war can't exceed the woe of the aftermath. Yeah, I mean people like today, it feels like more so than maybe ever, but people seem to have like this natural propensity to want to latch onto any little fear and blow it way up and like, oh see what they're doing. You
see in the world. Yeah, it's the in the world. It's the end time start buying all the food, like you know, it's like all right, yeah, sure, something's happened in the world, and some of it's not so great, but like, not everything that happens is a worldwide
cataclysmic They're not like after us at every turn. You know, obviously there are bad people in the world doing horrible things, and like there's there's definitely strings being pulled in the background against the masses in my opinion, don't get it twisted, for sure, but like, come on, now, every little thing, like how scared are you going to get before you realize?
All right, well, my fear doesn't help anything, right, I think it's I think it's more so conditioning and people have to be unconditioned, like just the years and years and decades of fear mongering, war mongering, most of the news cycles, negative news. It's like, how can you not feel like everybody's out to get you and that you have to, like, you know, be the first one in the grocery store to buy all the toilet paper, Yeah, you know, because how else are you gonna wipe
us? No, I'm just like, it's it's got to be a process. It's like, hey, let's let's tone it down. Like I heard from a buddy about the whole outage thing. I'm like. He's like, didn't you see the news. I'm like, no, yeah, I mean I hate to be one of those like boomer sounding guys, but like I don't even look at the news at all. I only look at it when it's bombarded at me and it's pops up on my feet. It's yeah if it's like inescapable, Yeah, if they're you know whatever, But I don't
know. I hit a point in like my probably mid twenties or so, where it was like every day or every week there was some new thing that was going on that like I have to be I'm scared, Like, oh my god, is this Like is this the end of the world? Is this the end of Like are we being attacked? Are we going to be
attacked now? Like you know that. It's like news story after news story, and my fear hit that cap more than once before I realized, like, a I'm only gonna get so afraid and like how many times is that gonna happen with no actual like cataclysmic result before I realize like it's fine and be like being afraid doesn't do anything for anybody except hurt me and the collective
consciousness right living in fear. It is so wild to me. It's just like when you break it down, not to go off on this tangent, please, it's just like you were you were feeling some type of way because somebody on some screen similar to this one that we're sitting here on, you told you something that evoked a feeling, right, and so it's like,
that's that's the transaction that's happening. So did whatever happened happen. It doesn't matter because this person that you trust said, hey, this is happening, be afraid, be afraid, and you said, ah, I'm afraid because I heard these words like it, Like it's the reaction is the same, regardless of if the cause actually happened. So wild, it's like the fear
very likely could have been the goal all along. And oh yeah, you know, because then you're watching, You're watching the next news cycle and the next well, oh, I hope they learned something about this thing I'm afraid of they told me to be afraid of, So I hope I hope there's some more news about that, because I'm trying not to be afraid. So I'm only gonna not be afraid if you tell me, don't be afraid. Literally, you're you know who said be not afraid the angels bro right.
When I realized again, probably around my mid twenties, when I had the like thought the connection finally, like wait a minute, news shows are television shows and and their success is based off of the amount of ratings that they get. When I made that connection, I was like, oh, you motherfuckers. You know what the kill shot is when you find out that every news station in the mainstream media is owned by only six companies. Come on,
now you know what the other kill the illusion of being opponents. Oh yeah, it's like, no, yea, all these major sporting outfits are classified I'm pretty sure this is true. You can fact check me. I don't care that they're they're they're classified as entertainment industries. Yeah, which is some sort of loophole to where what are sporting channels? Yeah? Oh like
so like the NFL is a entertainment industry. So it's like you can kind of use that to support an argument that their league is rigged or the outcomes yeah or whatever. I little key believe that stuff. It's true. It's absolutely true. Yeah. I mean, bro, too many times I don't I've never really cared about sports, but my my dad and my brother it
was always on the TV whatever. There were like countless times where it was like obvious that a team was crushing another team, and then all of a sudden at the half, like call after call after call after call from referees
that's like what what what are they getting called for? Well, over and over and over and over and over, and then the other team would win and you're like hold up, Yeah, so we hadn't really addressed this and it's not like that important because I feel like we're falling in the mainstream by addressing this year. But like, okay, what can we just talk about,
Like what are the odds Taylor? What are the odds that Taylor Scheft gets with a football player and that football player wins the super they wanted last year? No, I get it. Look, and the team's phenomenal. Andy Reid is like great coach, Like I get even though I can't believe, you know, their jersey sales for the NFL went up like four Yeah, what's you know what I don't understand about this. I don't understand why more people in America, the land of the Underdog, were not all about
the brock pretty underdog story. Bro. You know, I'm so confused this this is the power of that. My wife and I were flying back from Florida in December, and you know, Jenny likes Taylor Swift, like we we listen to Taylor Swift, like some of her songs are pretty. And I mean, you didn't have to admit that, but that's fine and admit that. Yeah, I mean, you're on the wrong side of the fence, Alex, Yeah, honestly you are. I mean, how about like
not judging people wave that bro? We about positivity in here, Brian, I'm sorry. You can listen to whatever you want. It doesn't bother me or have it. Oh, I know it, Son, it doesn't have any bearing on my life. I would have come out on this show and said a lot of things. No, but for real, you know.
So so Jenny thought this was really funny, and she's aware of the like crazy fandom stuff, but also like, you like what you like and it doesn't really like Dude, if everybody that told me Naruto had a toxic fan base when we were in high school and I gave into that, I would have never watched it and I would have missed out on a great show.
Yeah you know what I mean, like who of all time? Yeah, because back when were in high school, everybody was like, oh dude, the people that like Naruto are weird and they're running around when him z owns and it was true, but it's like, damn, it's a good show. Where are you going with this? Football? School? Was that kid? I was flying home from uh Florida in December and Jenny was like, look and there was legit like a twelve year old girl on across the aisle
right beside me watching the NFL on her tablet? What And Jenny was like, Dad, is exactly why this partnership happened. Jenny was like, she's a Tailor Swift fan, right what twelve year old girl would be watching NFL? And we were just kind of like not being mean, but like giggling, like this is ridiculous wits. Don't sit here and tell me I can't judge people. It's different, you got it. You gotta hate The difference is I didn't look at the girl and be like you fucking take I wouldn't
have admitted that it's a little bit like football. Yeah, No, it's a little different. When you're giggling very clearly. You know what. You just go on, man, go yeah, yeah, go on, man, go on, get out mister mister. Oh, I'm not going to weigh in on at and tis. I did it. I did it. Yeah, don't. I took us off the rails. Can I pull us back here? No? No, I'm glad you did this. I'm god I enjoyed the conversation. This is all tertiarily related. The point is I
agree with you about the NFL all that stuff being ragged. No, I know it's all right. I don't want to die on that hill, though I am not dying on an NFL being rigged hill. Okay, see what she does to us, man, this is why she shouldn't be. The other day, Nick was like, on your on Alex at dad's porch. Nick as in Alex's brother, Nick was like, dude, I swear man, there's frequencies in her music. Think about it. And I'm like, I mean, I mean probably, I mean, come on now, oh
yeah, there's something. No, I want to I want to pull up here the frequency in the music. Thing. I can't. I can only shut it down so many times. It doesn't it doesn't make sense, doesn't make sense, you can't. You can't do that, like from a music theory perspective, from music. So just to break it down as simple as possible, the frequencies that we know of that have effects on the human body are outside of the frequency ranges of the standard twelve note system that has been
used for everything thousands of years. Well, I mean less than two thousand, I think. But so what would be more probable than the frequencies in the music would be message suggestive messages and what do they call that? That's
illegal? It's a it's illegal in America. Yeah, Because just the simplest way to put it is, if they put frequencies that could have an effect on the human body into music, it would sound horrible because it would be completely out of yeah, and it would be out of key from the song itself. So it's like, because those notes don't match into the twelve note system, they're like they're like fine tuned completely outside of that range. They're
in between our twelve notes. So like it's that's just not possible. But the subliminal messaging thing, I've yeah, I one thousand percent believe that that's Like, dude, you listen. Think about it. You hear a catchy song and you listen to it fifty times in a year. Let's say that message is getting pumped into your subconscious Yeah, whatever the message is or the song is about, like that, especially Mileys Harris. I'm a witch, I'm evil. I'm like, man, you really you're inciting a ton of
young ladies just be singing that. Yeah, Like, what are you doing? To be honest, I never heard that song. I don't, but I want to go listen to it now, just to see how close that singing was. Think of the children. Man, it's bad enough. We got to watch an NFL on planes. Yeah, on playing young ladies. Yeah, it's crazy, bro And I said, I never, I never said, I judge her. I giggled because of the effect that the artist had on this young girl who doesn't give a flying fuck about football. Yeah,
I never. I never knew who brock Pretty was, but I'm a big brock Pretty fan. Now. Who is that rock party is? The was the other quarterback in the in the Super Bowl for the forty and he was the last draft pick off. Man, he was the last draft What are you saying? I said, I said the forty nine ers, he said twenty off man. All right, all right, I'm bringing this back, bring us back. All right, I want to share with you evermore. I'm interrupting you. You already did I know? I want to share
these small lyrics from look Around by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. So this is a good one. So you're going to enter. You're going to interrupt Ryan's lyrics in the middle and add a whole song's worth of lyrics. This is a good one. It's a good haanger. It's just yeah, we'll be right back, right back to Ryan's Yeah, this was for the folks in Fayetteville. It'll come true if you say it will I don't know. Wait, that was it. That's the one little bit from the song that
I wanted to share. Okay, So people are like, I don't know, what does it mean? Is it could just be some random thing that he came up with. It could be just a random ride there's a bunch of Fayettevilles, or maybe he knew something. I don't know, let's find out when that song was written. I never liked them. What I don't even think you don't like the Chili Peppers. I mean, I can enjoy him now, but like growing up, I never here, I am judging
you again. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, damn bro you on the judgment wave. Yeah, damn sorry. Sorry. Well, here we are out there gassing you up for your hog, for your hog. Will you please elaborate on that for you? Yeah, Alex just got a shiny new motorcycle
and two of them. Yeah, two of them actually, And we went out there and we're looking at him and just he was just begging us to sit on his hog man, and I don't think any of us could stomach the thought of knocking it over, right, Yeah, we were all petrified him. I'm not there in crocs. I'm like, I'm not equipped to get on this. Yes, I wear crocs, same same, I just got my first pair. The song was written or released in twenty eleven,
so good check out. I don't know. It's definitely weird. This stuffinly weird. Back to them, Thank you for that sponsored message, Alex. So yeah, that's from me. Now back to Ryan for the Battle of overmore So, we're waiting for the Eastern Glow. If you remember where we left off, the Apples of the Valley, Hold the seeds of happiness. The ground is rich from tender care, repay. Do not forget, no, no, Oh, dance in the dark of night, sing to the
morning light. The apples turned to brown and black. The tyrants face is red. Oh, the war is calm and cry, pick up your swords and fly. The sky is filled with good and bad that mortals will never know. Oh well, the night is long. The beads of time pass slow, eyes on the sunrise, waiting for the eastern glow. The pain of war. Oh, I did actually read this part. I'm sorry, I'm loving it going. The pain of war cannot exceed the woe of aftermath.
The drums will shake the castle wall. The ring rates right in black, right on. Uh, seeing as you raise your bow, shoot straighter than before. No comfort has fire at night. The lights wo that lights the face so cold. Oh, dance in the dark of night, Sing to the morning light. The magic runes are written gold. To bring the balance back. O, bring it back at last. The sun is shining. The clouds of blue roll by with flames from the dragon of darkness.
The sunlight blinds his eyes and then the rest of it is just like, bring it back, Bring it back, dude, come on, tell me that's not like prophecy about like the Final War, you know, metaphorically like the spiritual forces, the final war of darkness and light and the Eastern Glow and the angels of Avalon coming down and the sky is filled with the good and bad and you know, the tyrant is destroyed and the dragon of darkness
is blinded the light of the sun. It's it's like it's like biblical prophecy. Man also wild that lord of the rings two Towers, uh Gandolf shines a white hot light at the ring rays to make them fly away. Yeah, like bro it's and and also the this this allegory, this like endless uh war, this final war between good and evil is like one of the
most used tropes out there. But if you pay attention, like it's low key, the most important, like it is, it's the central it's the core message of so many because popular works throughout history absolutely like it's not just for nothing, and also like you can feel it in your soul. It just resonates that it's not just talking about material good bad fight like it's it's a it's a battle of souls, right, the spiritual wars, Yes, yes, it's a spiritual war, absolute dude. Even growing up like it
was, it was so weird. But around the time that my parents made me rip up my Pokemon cards, that the way that they would rationalize if things were okay to watch or not is they would tell me, well, yeah, like that's sure, you can watch Lord of the Rings. That's fine because that's about the battle of good versus evil. Literally bro literally thatjectively way more horrifying than and magical and demonic and Pokemon. Oh absolutely, absolutely
they would rather. That's how they would like. That was their barometer for if it was okay for me to watch or not. There are demons in Lord of the Rings. There there is a fucking king of darkness, Like there's like a stitch king. Yeah, there's like a straight up Satan character like with an eye of flame. Like it's it's pure evil, Like it is pure fucking evil. And yes, they're right, like it's like the good triumphs over the evil, and so ultimately it is like the best message
that there is. But like, come on, it's like cutesy little blue and red animals like shooting little water and fire at each other versus like a fucking orcs, limbs flying around and like eating people eating like that was the barometer. Okay, yeah, no, that's the You kind of got lucky that you were able to watch. You're very lucky. Yeah, I really did get it. That's hilarious. Okay, So if we thought it was a coincidence, the Battle of Evermore literally started with the Queen of Light.
Right, Oh okay, Chris Bletso saw a lady, she says, beams LEDs up on into his head songs about Queen of Light. Well, let's take a look. Stairway you ready, stairway to Heaven. There's a lady. Wait can you take wait, can you do the the can you do the intro Stairway to Heaven? Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom. This says something like, yeah, dune down, huh boom boom. Yeah, that's exactly it goes. Yeah, check it. There's a
lady in the sky. Put your hands up. There is a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold, and she's buying a stairway to Heaven. When she gets there, she knows if the stores are all closed with a word, she can get what she came for. Oh, and she's buying a stairway to heaven. There's a sign on the wall, but she wants to be sure, because you know, sometimes words can have two meanings. In a tree by the brook, there's a songbird who sings. Sometimes all
of our thoughts are misgiven. It makes me wonder, It makes me wonder. There's a feeling I get when I look to the west and my spirit is crying for leaving and my thoughts. I have seen rings of smoke through the trees and the voices of those who stand looking. What are they looking at? I don't know. Oh, it makes me wonder, really makes me wonder, And it's whispered, that's soon. If we all call the
tune, then the piper will lead us to reason. Hang on, hang on, pause, because that that lyric right there reminds me of when your dad gets everybody on the same page to look up at the sky. Yeah, we all call the tune. Yeah wow, like tuning into the same frequency, tuning into the same like mind wave, mind wave. And it's whispered that soon. If we all call the tune, then the piper will lead us to reason and a new day will dawn for those who stand long
in the forests will echo with laughter age of Aquarius. I don't know. Damn if there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now, it's just a spring clean for the may queen. Yes, there are two pads you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the roads you're on. And it makes me wonder. Your head is humming and it won't go. In case you don't know, the piper is calling you to join his zetta. Sorry, was that a right hand left
hand path? Reference there too? That's what I was to pass. Two pads you can go by. Yes, there are two pads you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on. I think about it like Christ consciousness awakening, like you can never it's never too late to get on the right path. It makes me wonder your head is humming and it won't go. And in case you don't know, the piper is calling you to join him. Dear lady, can
you hear the wind blow? And did you know your stairway lies on the whispering wind? And as we wind on down the road our shadows taller than our soul. There walks a lady we all know, who shines white light and wants to show how everything still turns to gold alchemy the soul, right, o man, And if you listen very hard, the tune will come to you. At last. When all are one and one is all to be a rock and not to roll. Rock and roll baby, and she's
buying a stairway to heaven. Damn, when all are one and one is all to be a rock and not to roll. I think about it like the transmutation of the soul and the awakening, you know, like first of all, there's a lady, there's a queen of light and two of their songs. Oh yeah, no, no, that's where did they get that from exactly? That's like a central recurring theme, this lady of light, this lady that will following. And it also mentioned a may queen, which
is obviously referring to the same entity most likely. But it's like there's all this imagery of this like divine feminine entity or energy. We were a big van Halen family. I want to harp on this real quick, okay, because in in the fifth grade, I had to do a project and it was the worst project ever where we had to take a song and then change one word in the song to give it a new meeting. Ultimately I ended
up, but I ended up choosing Stairway to Heaven. Oh N. So I have read those lyrics and listen to that song like I can't listen to it anymore because I over listened it. Right, So anyway, I may be telling you guys something that you're like, yeah, duh, But this is the first time hearing it said where I'm sitting here thinking she's not buying the Stairway to Heaven for herself. This is not a selfish I always thought for us to be a selfish acts. She's building the Stairway to Heaven.
She's bridging the worlds for us. I and if we all call the tune, we get to use it. This is late to change the roads you're on? Right, No, Alex, No you're that That did not occur to me at all until this moment. Yeah, every time I listen to the song, I think, damn, that lady, she just keeps, she comes down, she buys whatever she wants. Stairway to Heaven. Yeah, I always thought of like the Tower of Babylon, Like yeah, like that or something. Yeah, that's what I meant. Jacob's like they're trying
to like find some material way into the spiritual. Oh okay, like yeah, like cheating their way to heaven kind of thing. Sele, Wow, yeah, you just be No, that's that's really really insightful. Alex. That's crazy anytime that I'm hearing the lyrics broken down, like like okay, wait, let's take this a step further. No, no, no, no, no, no, we have done that in like three years.
It's not it's not it's not. It's she's buying a stairway to heaven, and so like, let's just pretend that this is an exact relation to your father's story and the lady. What did this cost the lady? Like what karmicalle or like what at what cost did the lady come and buy this stairway to heaven to interface with us, to help us on our journey? Is this rhetorical or do you have no? I mean, is it? I don't know. I mean I don't expect you guys to have the answer.
Do you I'm like hooked right now, and I'm like begging you for the answer. Do you have the answer? Well, no, because I'm sitting here thinking, you know what, like because i'm and correct me if I'm wrong. But she said, we're we're the the guardians of of humanity and we're the shepherds of humanity. Well being said that. The being said that, Okay, so not the lady. I think the lady is a little
bit, but she's a being. So I'm sitting here thinking, like like comically or like because I don't I don't think that there's like like angel lady currency, But I'm like, dang, like what did it cost her? Like what like what was the cost? Because nothing's free, right, Like maybe maybe the cost because like if you think about we've talked about the realm of the phenomenon as sort of like that they're in the spirit realm that which
you could call it heaven or whatever whatever you want to call it. So maybe the cost is like being here instead of being there, like she is here helping us. It's similar to it's a parallel to like the story of Jesus. Mean yeah, like God, because God and Jesus could have been That's what I was thinking. The price was some sort of could have I mean, you could just be chilling in heav right, Yeah, yeah, you didn't. You decided to come down and experience pain. It's like it's
like Galadriel from the Lord of the Rings. She was gonna she was gonna pass on to the land of the West. And he said, he keeps looking towards the west for his soul. Yes. Uh. And she was on the ship about to pass into the land of Valenor, which is heaven, and she looked back on the world of man, and she dove out of that ship and she came back nice. She sacrificed. That's the cost.
Maybe, you know, she sacrificed that like paradise to come here and into this like you know, hell, like realm, if you would, and like help humanity. That's really cool. Let's let's move on because I got two more songs, okay, And this is going by a lot quicker than I thought it would. So remember I told you when I was a kid, we were all up and down Van Halen. Dude, that's my dad's favorite band of all time, Big van Halen family as well. Yeah,
as we got older, it became more led Zeppelin. But like literally when I was a kid, we were jamming Van Halen and yeah. Dad was like, oh, yeah, the song love Walks in. Go look at the lyrics. There's a message in it. I was like, Okay. Contact is all it takes to change your life, to lose your place and time. Contact asleep or awake coming around. You may wake up to find questions deep with it now more than you ever realize. And then you
sense a change. Nothing feels the same. All your dreams are strange. Love comes walking in some kind of alien, waits for the opening, then simply pulls a string. Another world, some other time. You lay your sanity on the line. Familiar faces, familiar sights, reach back, remember with all your white, all your might. Oh there she stands in a silken gown, silver lights shining down. So when you sense a change,
nothing feels the same. All your dreams are strange. Love comes walking in some kind of alien, waits for the open opening, then simply pulls a string. Love comes walking in. Oh, sleeping dream is all I crave. I travel far across the milky Way to my master. I become a slave till we meet again some other day, where silence speaks as loud as war. Earth returns to what it was before, and then you sense a change. Nothing feels the same. All your dreams are strange. Love comes
walking in. Some kind of alien waits for the opening, then simply pulls a string. Love comes walking in, and then it just repeats. Love comes walking in, dude, some kind of alien. A lady in a silver gown walks in, and she's addressed as love, and she takes you far across the milky way. Come on, it could not be more on the nose. And when you hear that song, like when I was a kid, you know, my dad would be like singing that song like to my mom, like in the car, like looking at my mom, like
schmoozing her up. Whatever. So I'm always like, oh, it's a cheesy love song. Whatever, it's just a love song. But then looking at it through this lens, it's so obvious. It's weird. It's it's very weird, and I'm like, I've never looked into this, but I'm compelled to look into Like if Sammy Hagar had some sort of UFO experience, probably did, because that's a Sammy Hagar van Halen song, right, I mean that's not David Lee Roth. That is which album, is it show
that's Sammy Hagar. Yeah, that's Sammy Hagar. Okay, so this might be the weirdest one of them all. This is after the gold Rush that Neil Young. Yeah, this is crazy. This is one of the main songs that the phenomenon told him. They were like after the gold Rush, Battle of Evermore and then Love Walks In and Cashmere. It was. It was a few songs, but this is one of the ogs. And this is me and Ryan's first like experience. Yeah. When I when I was
explaining this to Alex, he was just shook. So it says, well, I dreamed I saw the knights and armor coming saying something about a queen. There were peasants singing and drummer's drumming, and the archer split the tree. This came out in the seventies. By the way, there was a fanfare blowing to the sun that was floating on the breeze. Look at Mother Nature on the run in the nineteen seventies. Look at Mother Nature on the run in the nineteen seventies. I was lying in a burned out basement with
a full moon in my eyes. I was hoping for replacement. When the sun burst through the sky. There was a band playing in my head and I felt like getting high. I was thinking about what a friend had said. I was hoping it was a lie. Thinking about what a friend had said, hoping it was a lie. Well, I dreamed. I saw the silver space ships lying in the yellow haze of the sun. There were children crying and colors flying all around, the chosen ones, all in a
dream, all in a dream. The loading had begun, flying Mother Nature's silver seed to a new home in the sun. That's very weird. That's very very weird. Is weird? There are so many things. So yeah, so something I wanted to hit on, which was I think this was initially Alex's idea for this episode was like the more I started digging after my
dad told me these things, I started researching into led Zeppelin. And it turns out, as you guys know, Jimmy Page was like an extremely devout disciple of Aleistter Crowley's teachings, went so far as to buy Aleistair Crowley's bullskin manner, which is like the mansion that sits on lockneis lockedness. So there are actually conspiracies out there, like if there's any sort of nessy entity or
whatever is going on with lockness. Some people out there think it's because of that manner, if there's anything at all, I have no idea how could I ever know full disclosure, I did not know that where I did not know that that is wild. Yeah, And Jimmy Page actually reported that it was haunted by a head of a previously beheaded soldier or whoever owned the manor before and yeah, and he would do rituals and sort of occult practices there.
And when they were asked like what is the meaning behind the symbols and the name Zoso on the Zoso album, they didn't really give like a real explanation other than that it was esoteric in nature. And we you know, we know for a fact that Jimmy Page was into the esoteric, and it speculated that Zoso was the name of some sort of demon that perhaps may have been communicated through with a Wuiji board that gave the name Zoso. Is any
of this true, I don't know. What I do know is that he really said these things, which right there automatically that gives us like a firm connection to led Zeppelin and some sort of knowledge of the occult right, so we understand, do I really know that they're evil? In talk the demons know? And quite frankly, I don't care. I don't know them. But what I do know is that there's some sort of esoteric symbolism in their
music for sure, right, without a doubt. To deny that at this point would would kind of like border on ignorance, considering that, like it's public knowledge that Jimmy Page was a disciple of the occult, you know, dude, black Dog. Yeah, I don't know the lyrics, but it's it's about the serious. Yeah, and even like the Immigrant song is a song about Norse mythology. Yeah, Like it's like you know, they're talking about Balhalla in that song like and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wish you would put the camera on yourself when you did that, But I'm so glad I've been trying to camera. I'll forgive you even that, which, like you know, somebody could say, what about immigrants song, Like even that is about we just did a Norse Mythology episode about how esoteric it is absolutely like mythology. All of their songs have like these fantastical lyrics.
It's very high fantasy, high mythology, high occult, esoteric, like it's rich in their music, not to mention like, uh, when led Zeppelin was at their prime, they were literally the biggest band in the world. Yeah. So, like if there was a band that some CIA operative would like try to you know, we know what's that band that was, uh, the one that the CIA worked with, the Grateful Dead, like the Doors. Yeah that's because uh gosh, you got me on the spot
here and I can't remember the name Morris Jefferson. His father was in the CIA, was high level CIA. I'm just saying, like, we know that they work with artists and and slip you know, propaganda and information and things like that. And you know, we also know because they studied your boy, that they're very aware of occult knowledge and the phenomenon and prophecies and things of that nature. They're very, very fucking interested in that stuff.
I can tell you that through lived experience, and it would make sense to me that if that was true, that they actually did that, led Zeppelin would be the band to do it. Yeah. Absolutely. The symbol the symbols are everywhere. The symbology in the lyrics is everywhere, and I mean like it's that's one of the most on the nose examples, like that's Jimmy Page is the name that gets brought up the most in the like hateful discussions
about rock music and the devil. It's it's always Jimmy Page, Like led Zeppel Ozzy, Yeah, well think about it. Ozzie came after after eighties. Yeah, I mean they were around in the seventies, like the late seventies, but yeah, Ozzy is very much like after the whole led Zeppelin wave. So they they try to point at led Zeppelin and Jimmy Page as like the original example. Dude, even in a even in Pick of Destiny like that that he was the first like rock guitarist that got a hold of
the pick. I think I'm pretty sure, pretty sure it was Jimmy Page, and then it eventually fell into the hands of Eddie van Halen, which, by the way, we didn't say all rip, all right, oh yeah, that breaks my heart. That was I don't really get crushed over like celebrity death and things like that, but that one was like, dang, yeah, that's like he's the reason why I play guitar. The first time I ever went to Nick's house, I was like fifteen years old.
I was like, can you play a eruption by Van Halen? And you're just like, my but you know why. But you know why because my dad showed me a video of Eddie van Halen playing eruption and he was just it was the most mind blowing thing I've ever seen. It truly really blew
my mind. I'll never forget him showing me that. And then he was like, Okay, he showed me and then he was like, Nick, I will get you a guitar, a simple guitar if you can learn that song, I'll buy you any piece of guitar equipment you want, wow, anything. And so I got a guitar that Christmas. I made it my mission and I learned it. And then he bought me this freaking huge sweet Marshal amp. You remember that big marshal huge You would sit on it? Yeah? Literally, I turn it on, sit on it to play.
Yeah, yep, that's like that is ingreat. That's a that was a core memory. You know, it's crazy there. So last Christmas, I went to a wedding in Cleveland, Ohio. So naturally we went to the Rock and Roll Museum or Hall of Fame or whatever it's called. And I went to like this exhibit on the top floor that had like these documentary stock videos about like rock legends, like eddievan Halem was one of them, and he was explaining in his sex segment that the way he learned how to do
fingertapping was he was like watching Jimmy Page Page on stage. He was doing it was basically like Jimmy would hit it out and then hold his guitar up in the air and do hammer on and pull off notes, which is like a fairly simple thing. But Eddie saw that and was like, what if I did that and then just did one more finger and then he you know, he used to turn around. Yeah, yeah, because he saw it,
and I thought that was so cool. It was just kind of like to build the mystique around it, because even in interviews he would be like, no, I didn't invent it. People were always like, you invented this brand new Like He's like, no, I didn't invent it. I saw Jimmy Page do it, yeah, and then he but he just turned around to like build the mystique. He'd always do like a kitchy little smile and he would turn around and start tapping like so iconic. Yeah, so
iconic. That's awesome. Yeah, I don't think I have any more songs at the moment. How do you guys feel about that one? That was pretty fun? Yeah, that was so cool. Uh. I think that this whole like message in the music thing is pretty much like an infinite, evergreen thing that we could do every now and then, like, because there this is we kind of stuck in one very like focused little niche here of like seventies rock and roll, seventies and eighties rock and roll vibes, you
know, and look how many examples we found. I like that because, like, I don't think that, you know, some shiny angel has to come down or a CIA operative and give you lyrics for them to be inspired. Like I do believe that there are many artists out there who just are tapped in and they reach to a really deep place and they pull out very
profound lyrics. And also to this day, some of our very first episodes of this entire podcast were about concepts like that, Like, if I remember correctly, episode five, I was talking about just like Magic by Ariana Grande. Yeah, and in that episode I said I hated Taylor Swift ooh. And three years later, I mean, I'm just calling them out on what he said. Now, three years later, I can humbly say I tolerate her what and it makes my wife very happy. For three years I've been
waiting for you. Yeah, the truth comes out. Man. I'm I'm a more mature person. Now do you guys know about Jim Sullivan? No, never met him. Oh, Jim Sullivan. Jim wrote this album and the album title is UFO, and then he wrote this album and disappeared. We didn't even get into Boston, Bro Boston. Their album covers the UFO right right, right right, Yeah, it's more than a feeling, you know what I mean. That fits right into that niche too. Yeah,
like the seventies. Yeah, I like that idea having some more like kind of music segments that'd be fun. It's just like music is uh. I feel like music is one of those like pure channels for like that humans can access, like it bypasses your like logic thinking brain. You can get into that like flow state with music where it's like stuff comes from another realm through you, like you see me dance. What is that supposed to be corroboration for what I'm saying, is reaching down? Yeah, yeah, I'm not
a dancer. And then and then y'all start playing music. We're sitting at the studio and I start grooving. He do be shaking his ass. Ain't gonna lie, man, what he great idea for this episode? Great? It was Alex's idea. I'm gonna bow to Alex again and I shall as well. We worship you, yes, thank you for your venerate you well. Thank you guys for listening. And I want to say a lot of exciting things are happening in our lives, as you heard on Stream of Consciousness
three. But actually Nick has been living with me this week. It's been freaking awesome. And uh, if you guys are members of our Patreon slash discord, uh, we're gonna do a special full disclosure tonight and Nick is gonna be our special guest. Yeah, it's my first time and I'll probably have been out for weeks already after this episode comes out, but you'll see what watch them all. I'm excited. Yeah, bye guys, Bye guys. Weird things happen in the backyard of Bletsoe House and see it over said,
look up, it's so weird coming closer to us. Here stayed straight up, like smiring on the inside of it. No one knows. Man, Wow, it's come right ever shin begin Happier than the ch