Weird things happened in the backyard, the weird, weird weird. I what's up, hey, dude? What what I'm just I'm trying not to laugh during your intro. You well you did because you said what I'm keeping it cool? Whatever, Bro, you are giving me a look you were you of my head laughing what amberds dude? You know, honestly, probably you probably just wanted to ruin my uh introduction. Broo, it's a conspiracy. It's a conspiracy, Bro, conspiracy. That's not the name of the movie.
It's a book. Yo, yo, yo, yo yo. We're doing DaVinci Code. You know what's so funny? We uh yeah, we're doing Dvince Code. Finally we we I mean I read this book like probably a year ago now, because you were telling me, like, bro, super good, super good. Yeah, like if you want a page turner that is extremely occult and esoteric, like read the da Vinci Code. I think you were telling me for months like, bro, you will love it
all this stuff. I don't remember exactly what the final like catalyst for me doing it was. Oh yeah, we we've talked about it on the show, that's right, Yeah, we talked about it on the show Forever ago, and then all of a sudden, I received two copies of it in the mail, like one from one person and then one from Casey's dad, and yeah, and so I was like, Okay, I guess I can read it now. And I read it, and you were not lying, my guy. That is that's like one of the most gripping books I've ever
read. Yeah, It's like, forget what it's even about. It's just the way that it's written is like every chapter ends when you're like, oh, I can't stop. Like it ends on an action point, dude, every time, even like even the way that the book starts. I was like, it got me immediately, dude. You know, And we're gonna try not to like spoil too much. If you guys still want to go out and watch it or read it, oh yeah, but if I would better, Yeah, for sure, I would recommend like reading the book.
I've you know, I've been like talk to a lot of people who have read the book and then also watched the movie. The general consensus, like that I seem to be picking up on is that people don't people that have read the book don't really fuck with the movie. Yeah, the movie was. I mean, for all intents and purposes, it was kind of like a critical flop, like it's just not a really good it didn't perform. Well. Now they're just rated like twenty five percent. Yeah, I mean
the book's virtually always going to be better. Yeah. Yeah, but but in this case, it really you know, honestly, I didn't mind the movie. I didn't think it was like bad bad. I put a lot of thought into it while I was watching it last night, and like, I feel like it's because yeah, exactly, it's a good movie. Like I literally just watched it last night for the first time, watching it, you know, through, and I was like, you know, this is
actually good, like I expected it to be terrible. I just think it's probably something to do with the fact that the majority of this book is like high level intellectual material, right, and that doesn't really translate, it doesn't translate into the film exactly. Yeah, because like a lot of the stuff that's like dang it is like it's knowledge, it's information, yeah, you know, and there's there's a couple of little gunfight type things, but it's
really not the point of it. No. I agree, Like the all the parts of the book that made me get really really hype. Were like like, you know, them talking about some ancient civilization or something ancient you know, organization ever where I'm like, whoa, they're talking about that, but they can't really show that in the movie, and the movie they do, but it's like it's like the delivery is a little cheesy, you know. I honestly think this story is just the format that fits it best is
it is a book. It's because everything stretched out further, so they set up things you know that might you might not find out for a while because you're reading it and it takes longer. But in the movie it's a lot of chapters two ten minutes. There's like one hundred plus chapters. So yeah, this this book is, this book is incredible and essentially what it's about is there's this uh he's a symbologist, right, Yeah, he's like a
world renown professor of symbology. Yeah, world renowned press professor. Starts off, he's like doing his book tour signing and doing the right conference thing. Yeah, and he's just like in uh Europe in Paris, yep, and he's just doing his thing. Where it's a sequel, right, the first thing is God, what's it called Angels and Demons? Right? Well, Angels and Demons is the sequel of this, isn't it. I thought it
was the other way around. I don't know, it doesn't really matter, right, Yeah, yeah, it's like there are multiple Actually, Dan Brown has written multiple novels with the same main character. What's his name, Dan Brown? Robert Langdon, Yeah, Robert, that's right, that's right, Yeah, Robert Langdon is in. I read another one, Demons Inferno. There's that one you read about the Loss Freemasonry. Yeah, I forget what it was called. It was honestly pretty forgettable. Angels and Demons is before
Da Vinci Code. It's about the illuminato Angels and Demons, Da Vinci Code, the Lost Symbols, symbol, and origin. I've only read Da Vinci Code and Lost Symbol, Lost Symbol is the sequel to this, and it was honestly pretty forgettable. I found that it kind of followed the exact same formula as Da Vinci Code, and when I realized that, it kind of
lost a lot of its luster. But anyway, just to give you guys an idea of what the you know, I don't want to because we're we're planning on really die deep into kind of the occult stuff that's talked about in this book. Why it was so controversial, you know, like like get into the nitty gritty of stuff like that. But I do think maybe we breathe by the plot real quick, just so you yeah, what's happening. I think like there's there's a few elements to this story. I forget it's
being a book or a movie. It's a story, right, Yeah, And there's a few elements to it that make it so groundbreaking and so high level. In my opinion, it's like, yeah, the first element of any story, which is the storytelling, right, So the storytelling is just superb. I mean it's like I had to read this in I think it was freshman year of college, which was twelve years ago, and yeah, I like wasn't thrilled about it, but I was like whatever, you know,
had to do it for an assignment. And I found that every night when I had to read through like my assigned chapters to pace through, I ended up reading five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten more And I couldn't stop. And I finished the book in like two days. Yeah, know, like I just was addicted. It's it's it's such a
well paced story. It's the way that it's the way that chapters are organized large because some chapter there's a there are multiple chapters in there that are one page, yeah, and they just they end on It's it's like this, it's like okay, you know, someone rolls up hops out the suburban. He points the gun, and then it's like end. It's like no,
it can't get here, like you gotta you gotta keep going. It's always ending on an action point, and they have multiple plot points going on at one time, all with action points that you're like patiently waiting for to see what happened next. So it's it honestly plays out a lot like one piece. Like you know, there's like three fights going on and they'll leave you a cliffhanger for this's like multiple secret societies that are warring for like this information.
So then that's the element number two that makes it so high level. Is aside from just like general storytelling, the material that's being worked with here is very profound, like a cult information. Like actually I was exposed to a lot of this stuff for the first time from this book, which is crazy. I mean By the time I had read it, I had you know, we had already been doing this show, so I had known a
good bit of it. But I think I think reading this book was the first time that it clicked with me that like, wait, there are there are tons of other highly intelligent people that know about this stuff and are even writing fiction about it like it. It kind of clicked with me that like, oh, this is more ubiquitous than I thought it was. This is
more you know, whatever than I thought it was. But so we decided on the phone yesterday that because the story itself is so good, but also because like the high level material is is this like occult knowledge that exists outside of the story, Like it's it's pulling from very real, esoteric knowledge, most of which we have talked on the show. We're just gonna like hit
those points. But I really feel like it should still be read, or you know, if you don't care to read books, it should still be watched, although you should understand I won't have the same impact, yeah for sure. But yeah, yeah, we don't really want to like spoil the story too much. I think we just kind of wanted to hop into the stuff that it's like we'll talk about the reveals, but still leave the story up to like you should experience how it plays out, absolutely, you know,
because it's a great story. Yeah and yeah, and you tell me if I'm spoiling too much and if I need to dial back. But one of the things that really grip me early early in the book, this is one of the first things that happens, is the crime scene in the louver. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's it's worth saying, like, we're going to very generally spoil this story. Yeah there. You know. The point is, we're not gonna focus very hard on the story, right,
you know, we're gonna we're gonna breeze past it. That's yeah, what I'm trying to say. But so so basically, yeah, there's this crime. The main character, Robert Langdon, he's doing a seminar. Yeah, he's doing a semin are and somebody comes to his hotel room. No, no, no, they come to him while he's signing books at the seminar. Oh that's right, right, that's right. Yeah, and they roll up. Well, I think is that how it is in the movie the
movie, I think it's different in the book. I'm pretty sure they wake him up in the middle of the night. Oh okay, so I haven't read the book in twelve Yeah, I watched the movie last night. Nick recently read the book, so we're kind of cross referencing here. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure they literally they just like came up to
his hotel room in the middle of the night. But anyway, yeah, he gets uh he gets approached by the police and they're like, you're needed at the Louver like now, and he's like, huh, like what what if you don't know? The Louver is like one of the biggest, most appreciated uh Art museums in the entire world. It's where the Mona Lise is. Yeah, it's it's where I saw them. A lot of a lot of da Vinci's work is there. You can go and see it. Uh
So, anyway, they're like, we need you at the Louver. There's been a I don't know if they told him immediately was a it was a m in the movie they did, Okay, they showed him a picture. Okay, like that need you and then so what's in the picture? What's on there? Right? It was a it was a dead body on the picture. It was a dead body and on its like torso had been carved like with a blade, with a blade a pentagram or a pentacle, you
know. And so Robert Langdon, being a professor of symbology, was like, uh what And also it's worth saying that the body was it was spread out in a Vitruvian man stance, like it looked like the body had been posed. But he posed himself exactly and that's what interested Langdon. He he saw that the body was posed, but then he also saw that the way that it was carved could only have been like done by him. And he was like, how did this guy? Like did this guy kill himself and
pose himself? Like this doesn't make sense. So he's like, okay, I guess I gotta go check it out. What he doesn't know is they suspect that he did it, right because he's this professor of you know, symbology whatever. Uh so, yeah, that was that was the first thing that really grabbed me. Well there's another reveal there. Why you think they that? Why they the cops think that he did it? Which do you remember? It's because the cop was part of Opus day. Oh of course,
right. He got a call saying he did it. Get in there and get in the confessor, right exactly. There are multiple like shadow organizations working at play, or maybe not shadow organizations, but multiple organizations. You got opis Day. You have the Knights Templar, Priory of Sion, the Priory of Zion. Those are the three main and the Prior of Zion and the Knights Templar are like they're like connected, yeah, but they're like separate
entities, which is crazy. I didn't know until I read the book and did research afterwards or whatever. Opus Day is a real is a real organization technically always priory of Scion, right, but not as it exists in the movie. Right. I was going to go into that. I wrote that down as well, that the priority of Scion is like very it's nineteen fifty
six. Yeah, it wasn't even really worth going into in the in this episode because because in reality it's rosa cruc But you know, Opus Day, while it is slightly exaggerated in the film and the book, it's actually a real thing, and they are they are kind of like scrutinized by the Catholic Church for for the same reasons they are in the story. But they're just maybe not as extreme, you know, like the self mutilation stuff, and
it's it's it's kind of like a like a Catholic cult. It's like a culti sect of Catholicism, just like in the Divinia Code exactly exactly, but it's it's represented way more extreme in the Dvinci Code though. I hunt down
people with weapons, yeah, assassinating people. Yeah. So okay, yeah, that's kind of your first hint in the in the story that like there's something kind of there's something very significant going on here because when Langdon goes and inspects the body, he finds he finds so many weird coincidences and weird synchronicities and symbols and all of this stuff around the body. He even finds where
did he find the message? There was a message written. It was beside the body, but it was like they needed like a black light and there was a message that said something like it said s no I said PS yes PostScript right, he like like a message PS find Robert Langdon. Right, But which is why they they kind of like thought that Robert did it because Robert Langdon is right. They thought maybe the victim knew that it was him
and wrote it down or whatever. But in reality, the guy who whose body it was, Sony Air, wasn't that name Sonya, I think Sonye. Yeah. I mean he did it himself, and he wrote all this stuff down, and he wrote to find Robert Langdon because he knows that he's like the most genius symbology expert in the world. But you find out that the ps also was a secret, meaning it was Princess Sophie. Princess,
so he called his granddaughter Princess Sophie. Right. So at this point in the movie, Sophie has already or in the book, Sophie has already showed up, right, Yeah, she's on the crime scene because I guess she's like somehow in the police force. She is, so she just kind of likestigate her. Yeah, so she showed up on the scene and kind of like bluff that she was involved. Cryptology is what she does. Cryptology, you know, like like codes and stuff like that, right, right,
Yeah, I forgot about that part. So that makes sense because she's trying to crack the codex s exactly. I missed that the beginning. Yeah, she's she works on the force in the cryptology department whatever. Yeah, so she's there, and it's just it's just getting crazy. It's you know, it's not worth going too into right now as far as the plot goes, because I don't want to spoil anything. But there's a lot of symbols to
discuss. A lot. Yeah, So first of all, the pentacle and they talk about they talk about like the original origin, like the origin of the pinnacle, the true meaning of the pinnacle. By the way, this is just a little aside. Sophie, her name is the it's the Greek word for knowledge or wisdom. Well, it's also like the Gnostic Sophia, the goddess exactly, exactly, Yeah, same exact thing. So this is a quote actually from the book. This whole story is about Oh shit,
I lost my page. This whole story is about the existence of the goddess and the divine Mother. Yeah, this is a quote from the book. Early religion was based on the divine order of nature. The goddess Venus and the planet Venus were one and the same. The goddess had a place in the nighttime sky and was known by many names. Venus the Eastern star is Star, as Stark, Astarte, as Startey, all of them powerful female concepts with ties to nature and Mother Earth? Did you also know this?
Is this I never knew and really really blew my mind. Did you know that, like Venus and Earth, the way that they orbit one another every I think three hundred and sixty five days make it a perfect pentagram. No, I didn't know that. It's the most insane thing I've ever seen. I looked it up. It's like, that's too that's just too weird.
You know, that's eerie like Venus. You know, Venus is going all the way around Earth and then there's a it's it's making a star in the middle of the circle like justice, or maybe it was Pythagoras said, it's the harmony of the spheres man like, it's the macrocaus and the celestial bodies. There's a frequency and an order and a song and a dance to it. It's very precise. It's it's it's impossible to exist without some sort of intelligent mind thinking it into reality. Yeah, it's like, uh, you
know the pentacle. If you look at the you know, pinnacle or pentagram whatever the circle on the outside represents I believe the masculine energy and then the pinnacle itself on the inside with the five points is the feminine energy. I believe that's how it was explained. Usually things with lines and points are more masculine and the rounded edges. Yeah yeah, maybe, Oh that makes sense
because look at the Vitruvian man. It's the man in the middle making the star with his you know, body, and then there's a circle around him. But that also makes sense with the male and female body, doesn't it, where men have typically more broader shoulders with a narrow, triangled waist, where women are more curvy. Yeah, it's by design. It's the same
with symbology. It's the more rounded soft shapes or feminine like the circles and things like that, and then you have triangles and lines are more masculine. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah. And so also in the book so Sognier, Soignier, whatever is Sophie's who is the cryptologist? Her grandfather? You know, you find that out at some point through the through the book, I like pretty much minutes later she pulls she pulls them in the bathroom.
She's like, that's my grandfather. There after you we need to get out of here, you know. So there there was there was something I wanted to say there. So we're moving again. We're breezing through the plot. So okay, so we're getting to a point to where the police that were kind of like after them, trying to get him on the murder, even though he had no clue about it and he had nothing to do with it. So we're just we're getting past the part. They're gone, right,
So they're dealt with. They had a little ruse to get him out of there. So now the main characters, Robert and Sophie, they are still in the museum because they kind of like had a distraction and they got the police to leave. You know, remember that she out the window, went in the truck and they're gone. So they're alone in the museum now. So they go back to the body and they start looking at all the clues
and they find that it's an anagram. Remember I don't remember what it said, but it was like the long con of man is dark or something like that. Minute specifically said like da Vinci the mona Lisa exactly. It was an anagram for yeah, da Vinci, right, Leonardo DaVinci, mona Lisa whatever. The writing was, yeah, And it was the Fibonacci sequence. Remember that's another big one a bit the first time I ever came into contact with that. Really. Yeah. Okay, so they're like, oh,
shoot, he was leading us to the Mona Lisa. Yeah. So they go to the Mona Lisa and they start like they start explaining, or Robert starts explaining some of the like esoteric history behind Leonardo da Vinci, how he was involved with. I don't know if he comes right out and says the priory of Sion yet, but he does at some point, so I'm just
gonna say he did. Either way, we'll explain that. So he says, you know, he's explaining how there's this like esoteric symbology behind da Vinci's art, and he's like, look at the left side of the Mona Lisa's face, it's proportionally bigger. They were always in ancient times showing the left side to be bigger than the right. And then he said it was veneration of the femininity because historically the left side was considered female and the right side
was considered male. Now I want to pause there for a second. That's a really deep statement because that's also like the Eyes of Horace and Raw where the right eye is the eye of raw, it's that active solar power. And then the left eye is the eye of Horus, it's that lunar power. Or I've been really getting into pronayama lately, which is like alternate nostril
breathing. It's like Hindu biovetic science, you know, and like there's this technique called the naughty the Nati Shodhana pronayama, which is this subtle energy channel purification breathing technique where the idea is that the right nostril again the right side
is masculine solar and the left side is feminine lunar. Right, so it's like you're stimulating the different nostrils to breathe, and there's evidence that shows that it impacts the central nervous system, right, like when you're regulating the flow between both nostrils. Modern science shows that I know this, I'm going to
bring it back to the monosa thing. But modern science even shows that at any given point during the day, whether you're conscious of it or not, you're actually dominantly breathing heavier and one nostril and it alternates throughout the day subconsciously. I've noticed that though first you don't have control over it. It's just automatically, depending on your mental state, you're predominantly breathing through an alternate nostril.
So the ancient iovetic yogis were like, well, we can regulate that and bring it into balance by curing the energy channels and for a set amount
of time consciously breathing through both to regulate that. But my point is there's so many different cultures and so many different spiritual practices throughout the world in ancient times where this unifying concept existed that the right side, the right eye of raw, the you know, the solar breathing, the esoteric symbology and painting through the rosicrucians, and YadA YadA YadA, masculine and feminine, yin and yang. This concept has always existed. Yeah, it's across every practice,
right, you know, and it's it's just it's mind blowing. But yeah, so in this very like beginning portion of this story, you already are getting dumping this on you. Oh yeah, I mean they are not making it, koy, They're not hiding it. This dude is sprawled out in a a Truvian man with a pinnacle on his chest, with crypt like a cryptic symbology written beside him. He's sending them on a goose chase, all this stuff, and you know, you still at this point have no clue
why this is happening, Like, you still don't know why. You know that they're kind of figuring out some clues and pointers, but you have no idea, like why is this happening? You know, it's not until pretty
significant, it's pretty far in. It's pretty far in. Yeah. So I don't remember when they mentioned about like Da Vinci being Priory of Scion or Isaac Newton or pretty early on. So yeah, so as as they started investigating the murder, and then they go to the Mona Lisa and then they get the black lic thing, they find more evidence, and then you know, they go to another painting. I think it's like something on the Rocks, Madonna on the Rocks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they keep
finding these clues to go to like other paintings or whatever. But eventually, after they leave the museum, the professor Robert gets wise and he asks Sophie, He's like, as your grandfather ever mentioned something called the priory of Sion to you? And she's like, you know, clueless. I don't know, you know, I haven't talked to him in twenty years. But you know, come to find out, when she was little, she walked in on them having some sort of sex ritual, right, so like traumatized in
like his basement or something like that. It was somewhere in his yard. Yeah, I mean not in the yard, but like in a building in the yard. Yeah, you're supposed to walk in there, and yeah, it traumatizes her because she's so confused and it seems like weird. It is like some weird tantric ritual, right, right, come to find out, of course it was like harmless. They weren't. Actually it wasn't anything dangerous or it was just a celebration of the divine, masculine and feminine, you
know what, that sort of thing. But to her, like she's like nine years old, to her child, she's just traumatized. So she grows up and she she never you know, never really talks to him ever again. Yeah, but you know, come to find out he he was the grand Master. Yeah it was. Yeah. So that's that's the whole point. Just just breezing through the plot again, it's like the whole premise here is it's like a murder mystery crime thriller where this guy Robert is just this
innocent professor who's extremely high level esoteric symbologist. Yeah, and he's just kind of like yanked into this world trying to solve the riddle left behind from the Grandmaster. So he's like following these clues. But like it's really cool because without saying like how he finds them or what necessarily happens or the betrayals or the character deaths and this, that and the other, the clues that he
does find are very dense with esoteric symboloic begnificance. Like, for example, you know, the Priory of Scion, as explained in the Da Vinci Code, as it's explained, does not exist in real life, right, you know, like we said Priory of Scion was created in like nineteen fifty six or something like that. Yeah, but you know, just think out of the box a little bit. If you actually read the story, he comes right out the character and he says that Sir Isaac Newton was the leader of
the Priory of Sion, which very interesting. There's a lot of evidence that shows the fact that Isaac Newton it's not like one hundred percent confirmed, but there's more evidence as always being found. Isaac Newton and Da Vinci were both actually members of the Masons. Rosicrucians. Oh sorry, yes, that's what I mean. That's that's the point, which, dude, think even further about it. What's the symbol on the cryptics? Yeah, so like we
we know that they're referencing, and they do reference the Masons. It's funny because it's almost like the book just takes priory of scion and kind of makes that affront for Rosicrucians exact because everything they say about the priory of sion in the book is like, is real knowledge, real rosic Yes, so I think Dan Brown, like, you know, it's like he added a faulty chain there to give like a layer of separation. Separation. Yeah, but
it's very obviously, I mean, straight up it's Rosicrucis. Dude. He's literally as like Sir Isaac Newton was a leader he talks about and there's a lot of like Masonic literature in here too. I have a bookmark part I'm gonna read a little bit o sweet later. Yeah. But so so I mean essentially, uh yeah, you you go through, you find out that the the grandfather is the grand Master. They keep getting led to all this different stuff. They go to this bank to where the grandfather Sonier has like
this special vault box. Yeah. They go to this super high tech like lockdown. Yeah. I think it was called the Swift Swiss vault or something
like that. Anyway, they go there, they figure out the Grandpa's password, they get in, which was the Fibonacci sequence it was, which is esoteric in its own right, super because it's like the formula of life, right Yeah, it's like how where everything gets that's golden frequency, right that I learned about that from the first time ever from this book really, which is funny because Dad included Fibonacci in his book. That's amazing. Yeah.
So and then they find in the lock box. The only thing in there was a crypt x rhich. If you don't know what a cryptex is, it's like this, it's essentially there. It can take many different forms, but it's like a physical like puzzle slash. It was a da Vinci invention, right, Yeah. And the specific one that da Vinci designed is very similar to the one that's used in uh the book and movie of Da Vinci code. It's like this like cylinder kind of thing. It's got like papyrus
wrapped up in the middle of it with like some secret message. But it has a little glass vial of vinegar. So if you try to like force the codex open, it'll break viral shatter and it'll destroy the document. So you got to have a precise password spending these dials with letters on it or symbols. And yeah, so, like the majority of the book, they're trying to figure out what the password. I don't remember what the password is, but I don't either, But hey, that's good because we can't.
We won't spoil it for them. Yeah, but yeah, so a big reveal there is when they find the codex. This is about I don't I don't know in terms of the book, but in the movie it's about halfway through, it's fine, decently far through, and they get the codec and the symbol on it, which is a major plot reveal because there's been no mention of a rose yet at this point. But when Robert Langton grabs it, he's like holy shit, you know, like his reaction. It's a
rose. It's a five pedaled white rose. So check it out. A rose is also a pentacle, a symbol of female reproductive power, a longitudinal marker, a navigational symbol, and the Holy Grail itself and Dan Brown's universe. This is what the rose represents, all of these things. It's many incarnations make it a potent symbol. A rose adorns the wooden box containing the
keystone. Da Vinci's Vitruvian Man has laid out in a five pointed star pattern, just like the five pointed pedal, the five pedaled rose, the pinnacle, and the Venus star. In goddess cults and real human history, the rose has close associations with femininity, the five pedals of the rose symbolizing the five stations of female life, birth, menstruation, motherhood, menopause, and death. The rose is also associated with the goddess Venus like he said earlier,
whose functions include love, sex, and fertility. And then in the movie, the rose line or in the book as well, the rose line or the zero degree longitudinal line used for navigation, represents guidance, as navigators use stars to chart their course. So I had another give me a second. Okay, there's a church in Paris where this longitudinal line. It's called the Arago meridian line. This is a real you know, like the Meridians,
you know, the lines runn across the planet or whatever. There's one that runs through Paris that's like extremely significant to the whole longitude latitude system. It's like one of the original calculations of this that was made by someone named Arago in the seventeen hundreds. There's like one hundred and thirty five different markers
in the city of Paris. You can see them on the street and it's like little gold plaques that that'll say like a Rago line, like you're crossing the line where the intersection of time zones and everything that's measured is separated right here on the spot. It's you know what I'm saying, Like it's so important to them that there's markers all over the city of Paris. But in the book and in the movie, they don't call them the Aarrago meridian line.
They call them the Rose line. Yes, and they have like this esoteric spin on it that it's like this basically so this the character remember Silas the Ller, the albino monk, exactly. We haven't even talked about him there's a nun in that church and she's telling him. I just I ripped a quote from the movie. She said, a rose line is any line that goes from the north to south poles set into the streets of Paris. One hundred and thirty five brass markers, And this is true. I looked
it up. One hundred and thirty five brass markers mark the world's very first prime meridian, which passes through this very church. Again, it was calculated in the seventeenth century, developed by an astronomer named Francois Arago in the nineteenth
century. So it's just crazy. Like there there's a lot of esoteric literature and symbology in Paris that the movie covers, you know, like the the formation of Freemasonry, the whole the Louver and we haven't even talked about that yet, but there's right, yeah, you know the two pyramid thing, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, Roslyn Chapel, which I do think that was in Scotland. But you know, Freemasons were founded in France. I did not, yep, I didn't. There's the French Freemasons
who brought us a statue of liberty. Wow, dude, and I wonder when, because I was part of my research during this was trying to find any proof or evidence that would suggest when the Knights Templar became the Freemasons. I'm not exactly sure, right, I was then the freemason started. Let me look it up, Yeah, I was. I was trying to look it up and find it. And I mean, there's a lot of compelling evidence that you know, there are there are I here, actually I think
I wrote it down. There's all kinds of eyewitness accounts. Actually I might be wrong, Freemasonrly, freemasonry might not have started in France where they're saying that it could have just generally emerged out of stone masonry guilds in the Middle Ages, like, not necessarily from a particular country. Some people say England. I don't know. Yeah, I'm seeing organized in seventeen seventeen in England.
So then the uh, it'd be hundreds of years after the Templars died, right, So then the attack that happened on Friday the thirteenth, what I mean, what city did that attack? Was that out of the Vatican.
I'm not sure where. I mean, I know it happened in France, but I don't write because so here's the thing, there are multiple there are many eyewitness accounts from that time, from right around that date, even as close to that date as the very like week that that attack happened, of people in Scotland specifically, that's where the most eyewitness accounts come from,
seeing templar ships like like seeking refuge and landing in Scotland. Wow, there are many eyewitness accounts of Now I'm confused because I feel like I've heard that freemasonry started in Scotland and what do I know? Right, I'm not sure, but it is significant in France. It's significant in France, it's significant in Scotland. You have Scottish righte freemasonry, Yeah, you have. Which also it's like, think about the the whole involvement of the Grail, like
a lot of those legends come from. Let's get into that, because we haven't. That's the most important part of the book and we haven't even mentioned it. So you find out through there, through the two main characters searching that the true mystery that they're trying to unveil, the true mystery that the priory of Scion was after and Opus Day is after and the knights Templar were
after and all these players. It's about the Holy Grail. But in this story, which by the way, is based on many real publications where this was theorized many I have them written down, many real publications, that the Holy Grail was actually Mary Magdalen and her location of the location of her tomb, well more so her bloodline, that's what I mean, right, her children, but her decision. If you find the body, then you can prove the lineage. But this, yeah, but this, this is a
real This is not just like made up by this book. Like. This is a real esoteric belief. And it goes so far as to call it the Merovingian bloodline exactly. I wrote about the Maravingians. So let's see. Do you remember in uh it was either the Matrix two or three, a character the Maravingian you remember wait? Oh yeah, oh my god, Okay, I think it was Matrix three. I can't remember, so let's see.
Yeah. Part of the legend cites the Maravingian dynasty, which ruled France from the fifth to the eighth century, and which was descended from Jesus Christ and his wife Mary Magdalene. It was passed down through a secret bloodline called the Sangreal, which is mentioned plenty in the book, which like translates to like royal bloodline or something like that. Yeah. Maravnian kings were also known as holy Kings and were considered invested with divine authority, as they supposedly has
had the holy blood of Jesus Christ in their veins. This story originated in the twelfth century book perceval Or The Tale of the Grail. That's the full title, perceval Or The Tale of the Great They also make reference I'm sorry to cut, but they also make very subtle reference, at least in the movie. Again, it has been a while since I've read the book, but they make very subtle reference in passing the the King Arthur Grail myth.
Yes, but instead of being check this. At one point in the movie, Robert says, when they're talking to the Ian McKellen character, you remember, yes, the older t T being Ting, it's t Lee t being or something. Yeah, professor right, he's like the fanatical expert of the Secret Society or whatever. Yep, yeah, yeah. Prior to sign they're talking to him and you know this girl, Sophie keep in mind to the
audience, listening. She has no clue of this esoteric shit because she hated it because she walked in on her grandpa conducting like a ritual, yeah, like literally like a ritual sex magic thing when she was a little girl. So she ran away. She never came back, so she didn't want anything to do with any of it. And she's typical like traumatized, like I hate history, I don't care about any of this, you know, just
get to the point whatever. So there's a lot of dialogue where they're kind of like they're teaching the viewer or the reader by teaching Sophie, you see what I'm saying. There's a lot of this dialogue being expounded to Sophie.
So there's one point where they're explaining to her with the most ancient icons for God are or for like you know, male and female, and it's like known as the blade, the upward keep in mind the blade, right, the upward pointed triangle, and then the chalice, the grail, which is the downward pointed triangle, which is the womb, you know, and you have the upward pointed one. What's that like the obelisk, the sword of Arthur, and the stone right, the Hammer of Thor or the hammer of
freemasonry is this phallic, masculine, powerful object. But then you have the womb or the grail, the chalice. It contains the holy blood of life for children or whatever like exactly. But but what do you get when you but also what if you merge them? What symbol? Do you get a
six pointed star like this? Yes? Yes, you take the upward pointing triangle and the downward pointing triangle and you merge them, you get the six pointed star, which is you know, and the cool thing is in the book while you're reading it, they they're explaining all of this, and then they'll actually put in like little pictures of it, like of the the two triangles like overlapping and becoming the six points. I just saw it when I
flipped through really book. Yeah, I literally just saw it. That was one of the coolest parts for me because it's like, yeah, there it is right there, right here. They can't see. That was a mind. I mean, this thing is like showing you symbols start this book. It's really cool. Yeah, you can see it. Yeah. So that whole previous paragraph before it is talking about it is basically exactly what Ryan was just saying, how the upward triangle is masculine, the bottom one, the
lower facing one, is feminine. And then it just shows you the symbol and you're like, oh, you know who else told me that? In person? Who? Tim Taylor? Really? The Department of Defense. Yeah, that was when I first realized that the people in the CIA and in these high level intelligence societies. Oh dude, I just opened up to a heavy hitting passage. All that thought, Okay, but anyway, Yeah, so Tim Taylor, he came around twenty thirteen. He started talking to us.
He had a shirt that had a or boris on it. He started talking to me. Dude, I was like twenty. He started talking to me about like sacred geometry, upward triangle, downward triangle being masculine and feminine, merging them together. It's like God, the forces alife. I mean, anyway, check this out. I just opened to a random passage. These two pillars are the most duplicated architectural structures in history. Replicas exist all over the world. They're at the Roslin Chapel, which is a real place.
I think it's in Scotland. Replicas of Roslin. She looked skeptical, no of the pillars. Do you remember earlier that I mentioned Roslin itself as a copy of Solomon's temple. Those two pillars are exact replicas of the two pillars that stood at the head of Solomon's temple. Langdon pointed to the pillar on the left that's called bo Az or the Mason's pillar. The other is called Jacquin, or the apprentice pillar. He paused, In fact, virtually
every Masonic temple in the world has two pillars like these. Fun fact, the catacombs in France, they're painted on the doorways Boas and Jaquin. Oh right, I have pictures. Yeah, yeah, that's so great. And then it said Langdon has already explained to her about the templar's powerful historic ties to the modern Masonic secret societies, whose primary degrees apprentice Freemason, fellowcraft Freemason,
and Master Mason harked back to early Templar days. Sophie's grandfather's final verse made direct reference to the master Masons who adorned Roblin Roblin Roblin Roslin with their carved artistic offerings. It also noted Roslyn's central ceiling, which was covered with carvings of stars, and planets check this out when they get to Rosslyn Chapel, often called the and this is a real place too. That's what's so good about this book is it's like it's got all this material, but it's
like based on all real stuff. Yeah. And I would say like a large portion of it is untainted, like real true history. But you know they obviously flare something. It's dramatized. Yeah. So. Roslin Chapel, often called the Cathedral of Codes, stands seven miles south of Edinburgh, Scotland, on the site of an ancient Mithraic temple built by the Knights Templar in
fourteen forty six. The chapel is engraved with the mind bogging arrays of symbols from the Jewish, Christian, Egyptian, Masonic, and Pagan pagan traditions. The chapel's geographic coordinates fall precisely on the north south meridian that runs through Glastonbury. The longitudinal rose line is the traditional marker of King Arthur's Isle of Avalon and is considered the central pillar of Britain's sacred geometry. It is from this
hallowed rose line that Roslin originally spelled Roslin. It's just a different spelling texts its name Roslind's Rugged Spiers were casting long evening shadows as Robert Langdon and Sophie Nevi. These are the characters of the book. Yeah, pulled their rental
car into the grassy parking area at the foot of the bluff. I believe they were like lead here for the final piece of the mystery, because it was like Isaac Newton's gravesite or something something special about Isaac Newton right that he was Well, was it Isaac Newton's that they were trying to get to or was it? Yeah, because I'm looking for the apple, I think it's I think it's hey poop, pope poop. I think it's a pope.
Oh, what it is is they were looking for Sir Isaac Newton. But what they didn't realize is he was buried by Alexander Pope, right, because the riddle said a pope buried by a pope, But it was a pope. It was Alexander Pope right right. So then they get there and they find the Apple of Eden, and they're looking at the grave side of Isaac Newton and it has all this esoteric symbology, heavy emphasis on it being orbs orbs of the celestial spheres of you know, the stars and the moon and
the planets and stuff. But yeah, I wanted to read that chapel because it's like that that chapter. Yeah, my brain is like it's going faster because there's so much material here that's like again it's real world esoteric literature. It's just it's very mind blowing. Like I love the King Arthur, Shit,
I do too. I got some stuff about that too, because it's unfolded that like they're trying to find the Holy Grail, and then it's also later it's then unfolded that What that means meanes is that that this is pointing them to the information of the lineage of Jesus Christ. This is suggesting that Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene were actually in fact married and they had children, and that bloodline exists to this day. And that's that's what they like kind
of discover in the in the book. But that's actually heavily widely theorized in other sort of thought, you know, like originally traditionally, the like kind of vanilla belief of the Holy Grail is just like, oh, it's the cup that Jesus drank from at the Last Supper, right, that was it. But then also there's in a book called Merlin that was written in like the fourteen hundreds or even before that. Are Mathia is that it? Or
is it Arimathea? I'm not sure. Matthia is in charge of guarding and protecting the Holy Grail for those who are already familiar with Avalon the which is the place where King Arthur is apparently buried. You know, it's all legend, but apparently it's true. Other speculations say that Arthur himself was a direct
descendant of Christ and was tutored by Aramathea, who was actually Merlin. You know, the book is called Merlin, but it's theorized that the author was actually Merlin himself, who is using a pseudonym like a different name Arimathea. So there's other speculations that Arthur is the blood line of Christ, even giving rise to the legend of the sangreal royal blood, which is an alternative to
the theory of the Chalice object. So even in in you know, King Arthur lore and legend, they there are certain you know, authors who write about King Arthur and say that that was the point of the Holy Grail. It was actually a symbol. And then there's one more example written by so. According to the legend of Wolfram von Eskinbach, the grailstone was made of a substance called Lapis exillis or exile stone, which supposedly fell from the sky
in the form of a meteorite. This stone was the Grail's source of power in life, and only those the exilestone Lapis exillis. Okay, why because I've I've also heard it said that that stone was moldivite. Well, check this out, fell from space. Check this out. This stone was the Grail source of power in life, and only those who were pure in heart and virtuous could approach it and use its powers. Which is almost identical to
another famous stone. It's a story from like Asia. It's called the Chintomond money stone, the Chintamani stone, which which is also like the Emerald of Lucifer. It's like this, this exact story of this powerful stone. Wish. Yeah, it's it's being repeated over and over and over, and you can kind of surmise that they're all talking about the same thing. It's the same as like the philosopher's stone. It's there may not be a stme,
it's like an esoteric metaphor about reaching enlightenment. So I don't know if you're reaching knowledge. I don't know if you knew this. But there's there's this like acronym that initiates and alchemists and like seekers use to sort of try and gauge if one of these legends is like legit or not. And it's this acronym called vitriol. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. So it's that is blowing my mind because that's in the movie as above, so below it is.
Yes, So vitriol is a Latin acronym that stands for the phrase visita interiora terre rectificondo in Vinnie's Occultum lapid them I know, I butchered that, but which in uh Latin translates to visit the interior of the earth and rectifying you will find the hidden stone. No shit, yeah, that's what it means. Bro. That's in the movie below, like a cultum means hidden, lapidam means stone. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it means.
Visit the interior of the earth and rectifying, which is just like purifying you will find the hidden stone. But I also feel like that means like know thyself, you know, like it's a psychosocratey said, know thyself like right meditation, the death of the ego to reach enlightenment. Yeah, because like at the at the bottom of the rabbit hole of all this esoteric literature, the point of all of it is reaching in awakened state of consciousness. You
know, it's through it's through just complete purification of the ego. So I felt like, you know, you're visiting the interior of the earth. It's as above so below that that's you, that's your infinite inner state. Yeah, it's like by delving deep into the earth to yourself, that's how you know yourself, know thyself right exactly. So it's also in as above so
below that know thyself thing. Yeah, that's pretty sure. So you can kind of there's kind of like multiple interpretations of what exactly the Grail like was. It's just this story focuses on like it being an allegory or like it being the blood line of Christ. I feel like that's I feel like that's what the legend actually is. But it's like is it true? You know what I mean? Like I have a hard time thinking, oh, well,
maybe it is just a cup. Well no, I mean, well, so the reason that they make sense, the reason that like at least like the the basic vanilla reason that like they think all these people are looking for the Holy Grail is because you know, it also held Jesus' blood in it. You know, when they say sacrificed him, they filled his grail up with his blood, like which was you know whatever, And so they think that that's the story goes, they stabbed him, but he bled water
right in the then they filled it up the cup. And so that's like the basic understanding of it. So people think that because it held his blood in the chalice, it like gave the chalice special powers or whatever. But take just a tiny little bit of like a symbolic understanding of that, what does that mean? The blood is power, the blood is power, the bloodline is power exactly, you know what I mean, Like, just just get a little symbolic with it, and it's not that far of a leap.
And then, you know, really, other than those two kind of like schools of thought, the only other thing that people think the Grail could really truly represent is just like the philosopher's stone, like the same thing as a philosopher's stone. You get it and you just you know, you have the power to manifest whatever you want. Yeah, it's like not the idea is that there isn't a physical object, but in reality it's reaching enlightenment,
right, exactly the key to enlightenment. And then so another piece of this puzzle that the book heavily implies, but that you have to dig a little bit to find examples of in real history is the Knights Templar's involvement with the Grail. So check this out. I got a quote from two of the characters, Robert and Sophie, when they're having a conversation. Uh huh.
So it's like Robert said, any story of the Priory, which again we're going to assume that he's really referencing Freemasons or rosicrusions because their histories are tied. You know, it's very similar bodies of knowledge. Yeah, but he said any story of the Priory soon ended in bloodshed. They were butchered by the Church. It all started a thousand years ago when the French king conquered the Holy City of Jerusalem. It was all orchestrated by a secret brotherhood,
the Priory of Scion and the military arm the Knights Templar. Then Sophie says, but the Templars were created to protect the Holy Land, I thought, And Robert says, well, that was a cover to hide their true goal. According to this myth, supposedly the invasion was to find an artifact lost since the time of Christ, an artifact it was said the Church would kill to possess. Then the story, like the Da Vinci code book movie whatever,
it actually expounds on the real history of Friday the thirteenth. Yeah, how the Pope and the King of France had this covert operation to just like assassinate all the Templars all at once, and it does the whole Friday the thirteenth thing burned at the State YadA, YadA, YadA. So yeah, very cool how it connects the Templars there. Yeah, it is really cool
how it's done in the book. And if you do a little bit of digging into history, like the history of the Templars and that brutal attack on Friday the thirteenth, you'll find that many Nights were being you know, they were torturing them, they were interrogating them like it was really really awful, but they were trying to get information out of them, and the torture information out of them, and many of them in that torture divulged the same bit
of information, which is that they held Grail rituals. They held like like significant magical rituals where the centerpiece was like a symbol of the Grail. It obviously wasn't the Grail. But they're like low key like almost like worshiping the Grail. They absolutely were mystical, like, oh for sure. So the official version, again, I'm not saying this is the true version. I'm
saying it's the official version of history. Why like the French king and the Pope wanted to kill the templars was they were claiming that they were worshiping the devil. They were worshiping Bapha met right. They were claiming that they were killing people, drinking blood out of skulls, scrying into the blood and the skulls, and having just these strange satanic rituals and stuff. And there were some templars under the duress of torture who admitted to that. But then it's
like, well they're being tortured. So it's like, you know, or are you just trying to get out of torture. No, no, not even Grail rituals. Some of them said, yes, we really do that stuff. Yes, we really worshiped the doubt. So it's like, is it true they're being tortured? You know, because you know, all these
other ones are saying this stuff. So it's like, we really don't know unless we're a part of some society that's held their information, see, like unless we joined the modern Freemasons or Templar, well that really know what they did, you know. But so is there any of these societies out there that is known to be like intimately tied to the legend of the Holy Grail? Like are there are there any of them? Because I mean I found
like a little bit of stuff on the real priory of Zion. Do you remember when for a brief time I studied with a Rosa Crucian named doctor Robert Gilbert, Like brief time, brief time. I took a few courses with him, right, he had a course called Grail Traditions and Mysteries. I never took that one, but I I can't remember the one that I did took. I think it was just like spirit science, just like a general idea of be a cult. Yeah, I know, that's where I learned
it from spiritual science. Yeah, that's occult science, I think. I think Rudolf Steiner has a book called Occult Science. But that's where I got the name for spirit science. But yeah, no, that that is something that the Rosicrucians and the Freemasons do talk about. I mean again, it's like, I'm not a part of these orders, so I can't know everything they say. Although I am kind of inclined to start getting more involved with
Rosicrucianism to try to like see what their material is about. I kind of feel that inclination too, because it's not like Freemason's where you got to go to a lodge drink beerwidge or homies on Friday night and learn all these secrets. And I forgot my recital today, I didn't memorize my little Latin quotes or whatever. You go. You know, rose CRUs is not like that. It's more you just learn. Yeah, it's all online. You don't even have to meet anybody in person. My fear up front was like,
if I was to get involved in any of these kind of orders. Would this be the kind of information that I couldn't share with people? Because clearly my only reason for ever learning this kind of knowledge would be to share with people. I want to share with people. And I was like, well, what's the point in getting further with something if I can't even talk about it? That's just really stupid. Yeah, it's really stupid. Why would I do that? Right? Yeah, it would be honestly more, It
would make more sense just to do the research on your own. That's why I've been doing it that way. Yeah. Yeah, make no pacts or promises with anybody that you're not going to tell anybody if you find the information
yourself, Like you don't. You don't owe nobody nothing. And for anybody out there that's like in their head, they're like, well, I'm a part of the order, and I maybe yeah, well I've seen beings my whole life, you know, so I understand the burden of having some crazy experience that you want to share with people that people aren't ready to listen. Right then, you know, somebody in the high level Freemasonry or some other ritual or or magical order, they might say, well, people understand it.
So we're keeping a secret because they're not ready for this, and then that I mean, you know, that's fine. I don't see it that way, right. I see that the truth should be freely shared all the time, one hundred percent of the time, whether they're ready or not, and as your burden, you know. So that's that's me. That's why I never got involved with any sort of order. But I'm kind of thinking, man, I might dive into Rosicrucian stuff, like do your own research
on it. Bro. No, no, no, it's fifteen bucks a month. You sign up online, they give you documents electronically. You just read them. You don't even have to go to no agreement. There's no agreement like not to talk about it as far as I know. Yeah, you just you just study the material. I would love to read stuff like that. I mean, the Rosicrucians are the probably the one, like initiate
order that I'm most like interested intrigued in. I know, we said we're not going to really do comments, okay, but this this one I thought was so like come on, bro, like really, oh god, listen, we gotta comment on YouTube. Okay, let's do it. I don't know if I've ever done this. Put it on blast. Let me find it. I might have already passed it. Oh listen, you ready, I can't believe I'm even highlighting this. It says we did the Wisdom Traditions
episode one. The scenes it says, I don't want to throw shade, but this, this comment, this is what I deal with. This, This is exactly why I'm like, I don't even need to defend myself here, you know, But it's like, why do people who are not members of the Rosie Crucian Order always speculate as to what we are and what we
do. Don't sit on the fence. Join the organization and find out for yourself instead of reading books from people who never even have been members of the order and think they are experts on the teachings when in actual fact they know nothing except for their own self importance. There's a lot of like arrogance. Yeah, you know, like I don't know, I don't want to know
who said it obviously or whatever. But like, listen, if you're if you're genuinely trying to get people interested in the organization you're a part of, or like invite them to learn these mysteries for themselves. That's not really the attitude to have you know what I mean that kind of that kind of would
turn people off. I would think, Yeah, it's like fuck me for like being really interested in something but like hesitant about fully getting involved because I'm a public figure and I have a like I believe I have a responsibility to be able to freely share knowledge of people. You know, It's like I don't know that. Yeah, what's what's his name? Onoke? Onoke, the dude from Arto, the fence sitter. Oh oh oh man, yeah, ok right, what a deep cut, bro? Yeah, I think
it's Onoke. It's the only fence citter I've ever heard of that is a deep cut, my guy. But yeah, it's like that, this is what I deal with. Man. It's like it's like, damn, let me be curious, bruh. Let me just be curious, as opposed to if I did go and take some sort of oath and then I couldn't spell the information, It's like, wow, fuck you dude. Yeah, you're the people. Yeah, you're always gonna piss somebody, always. Always. It's just it's just the nature of the thing. Man, You're always gonna
pie somebody off, like it's like I can't win. But no, I have been thinking about getting more involved with the Rosicrucian stuff. Dude. It's just like it's so interesting and like it really is so fascinating full disclosure, Like I did. I did join for like two months last year. It's again, it's fifteen bucks a month and you you get monographs sent to you in electronically. And one thing that really turned me off was the some of
the very first I think they're called monographs. They're written by Alistair Crowley. Oh so I'm like, yeah, that's bullshit, Like I'm not really interested in that. But also like when you read what they're saying, it's like it's not bad, it's not bad stuff. And we have to remember that
he was a part of different ritualistic orders. So it's like, I don't know, man, It's like I don't I don't want to have to sit here and try to like justify the shit I'm reading, just like I wanna, well, yeah, just let go, let go of all judgment and justification and all of that, and and just view it as nothing more than
an observer, a witness. You view view the content as nothing. Don't don't, don't associate any of your personal feelings to you know what you're reading, what it is, whatever, Just absorb the information and then you'll you'll form your own opinion later. Who cares if alex Ter Crowley wrote about those things in the beginning, you know he's a fucking Weirdoh sure, but he'd
be spitting sometimes. Well. I was saying more along the lines of like, how stupid of them to include that material, sure, to invoke that reaction in people, But maybe it was intentional. Maybe maybe it's to show that there is a belief I have. Again, it's like, how can we know that there is a belief that a lot of that public facing material about Aleisterair Crowley was intentional to shock people, to try to prevent from engaging in the material. But see me, I'm just like, shame on you,
Like your intentions are wrong and you've lost me. Yeah, But I mean, who knows it could have been for a different intention. We truly don't know. Maybe they were thinking, like we need to show both sides of this coin and show that the truth doesn't pick a side, It is simply the truth, and you pick the side for yourself. Yeah, maybe it's something like that. You never know. It's also it's like, don't
throw the baby out with the bathwater too. It's like again it's like if Alister Crowley is depraved of an individual he may have been, that doesn't mean that he didn't have the capacity to report on material. Yeah, It's like it's like, just because you know, I don't like the color brown, doesn't mean I can't paint with it exactly, you know what I mean? Or just just because I don't know, it's like just not everything that somebody
says is wrong, just it's logic. It's it's just because it's them saying exactly right, Like it's logic. And when you read the monographs that I think it's like Library seven seven seven and Library eight eight eight, it's not bad material. I'm just like, well, really, we're gonna come right out the gate reading Alister Crowley, Like that's not exciting to me. Yeah.
Yeah. When you when you go from like like exoteric like religion, normal whatever, to like this kind of deep occult stuff there, it can feel very like gray area sometimes where you're like is this bad? Yeah? Exactly do I need to justify this? So? So maybe you know, it could be something like that, like them just showing you up front, like here's Alex almost said alex Ter Crowley. Here's Aleister Crowley, like like saying some shit that actually makes sense, even though you know of him as
a depraved person. So like some of the ship he said made sense exactly. That's the problem, right, That's that's really problem with it. Yeah, but yeah, interesting stuff. Did we did we? Did you finish up on? I think what you wanted to cover on the divinci Ca? I think so for the most part. Let me just take one. Are we satisfied? Are we we went on a wild tanget satisfied? I think that's the first time we ever rolled out comments. I think it might be
it wasn't a good one. And I listen. I don't want to. I really don't want to be like negative. I appreciate you guys watching and listening absolutely and commenting. Understand that we do see the rude comments. We do. We don't usually respond, but we see them. Just you know, it's like it's it's like again, it's like you have your one opportunity to interact with the people that you know, you listen to their content, maybe maybe use honey instead of tract flies with honey not vinegar. But anyway,
thank you for commenting and engaging. Yeah, common sense, be nice. Yeah, I made it through all of my notes. Uh. I mean, the biggest themes in this book it's it's it's like about these organizations, it's about the Grail, it's about the blood line of Christ. You know. Oh, there is one concept we didn't actually that. We went on a tangent for a while, and I do feel like I wanted to talk about this. So the whole, the whole controversy of the book,
we just glossed over this but didn't make a point about it. The reason this book is so controversial in the first place is because why, well, dude, it's it's suggesting the notion that Jesus was a father. Well yeah, like not an immortal divine being. Oh right, Yes, it's it's suggesting the notion that he was a person like us, who which every other bit of information in the world about him, except for the Bible, says
exactly all of it. Yeah, like the Gnostic Text, na, commodity scroll yeah, all the psychic materials yeah, nahommodity scrolls, the Koran, all of it, all of it. That he was like as a prophet. Yeah, he was like a He was like a sage or like a prophet, or like a spiritual master. He was like a master of an order, not just an initiate, but a master. Yes. And he had achieved enlightenment and he was waking people up. And you know, I do believe that. I do too. Do I know that he had children?
No, I don't know that. Sure, I believe it, but I believe that every other text about him in the world other than the Bible, says that he was a man. He wasn't divine, he wasn't a God incarnate. He was a sage, a prophet, a dope dude, a jack Man with fucking natty lights. Like I'm saying, that's what we know about it. If he's Jackson, got some natty lights, I mean,
I'm sure he's got some kids out there. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that's the first time you've spoke the whole I think, yeah, episode oh yeah, well, you know, he gets excited as soon as he hears natty lights. Jack Jack ripped Jesus. That's hilarious. That's the first time he spoked a whole episodes. That's all it takes. You Finally you got me. That's all it takes to engage him. That's all it take. At the end of the episode, we have his full attention.
But this, this, this, this has to read this book. It's really good. It really should and it's a very fast, fast read. But dude, it's like the easiest book I've ever read. Honestly easy because it's a yeah, you don't want to put it down, and the material will stimulate your brain. It teaches you a lot of stuff. Dude, it taught me a lot. But yeah, I mean, like this
this was heretical. It was extremely controversial when it came out because it was suggesting the idea that, you know, Jesus may have been born just like us, and that it goes all into the Nicy and Creed and Constantine and how they changed his birthday to be like the pagan son god of Rome and all this real history about how they convened Romans. This this is all in
the story. They're they're like educating you, Like, no, they just decided years later, Yeah he's divine, Yeah, the Emperor of Constantine. It sucks. Yeah, well yeah, we'll make him divine and uh yeah, his birthday's freaking and then we're gonna kill people to uphold this image so that we have absolute power yep, you know, because we act on the authority, you know, the Vatican. We're the most powerful representation of God.
So then you have this whole subplot. We barely talked about this, but the whole villains here that are chasing them down is like this cult within Catholicism who's trying to murder the blood line of Christ and murder anybody who's aware of the mystery because they don't want people to learn the truth. They want to keep people in ignorance, to be like spiritual slaves, basically, like they want to keep the world suppressed from this holy grail. Yeah, they
want they want Catholicism to continue to reign. Yeah. So you have like you have like both secret societies. You have the Catholic Secret Society where they're literally like nine millimeters like capping people in the head over Christ. Yeah, and then you have Priory of Zion, who's trying to protect the blood line of Christ. Yeah, exactly. It's it's really really gripping stuff. It's it's amazing, it's deep and it makes you wonder how much of it is
real. Honestly, that's the problem with this book. That's that's that's what I was gonna say, Like, you read this, and I remember reading this at eighteen years old. I was still Pentecostal. Yeah, you know, I remember reading this and being like, you know, I kind of have a hard time not believing this. I do too. When I finished
it, I was like, this is nonfiction. But then, like, you know, after a while, it is like it was shortly after that that I found out about freemasonry and even like the Illuminati and began my journey like studying esoteric stuff. I mean, I actually, ironically, I only read this a few months after Dad experienced a lady for the first time. Which is funny when you think about it, because out, you know, you think about it out of the box, this entire book, other than
the blood Line of Christ. Bit, do you remember what his book is called? In the book? The character is an author in the book. It's like symbols of the goddess, oh, divine, feminine. Yeah, it's something like that. The whole point of this is the great mystery, like why was Mary Magdalen's so special? She's she's divine. She was like Jesus was the male avatar of God, and she was like the feminine. She was like the the you know, his equal, his counterpart. And
it's like, it's crazy, man. The whole premise of this is the divine, feminine, the mother, the grail, is the woman, and then they believed that her children, her child, the heir, was a woman. You know. It's like, it's crazy, man. It's all about the goddess and like it's kind of like what my whole life is about. Yeah, and it's funny. It's funny that you started reading it like at right after this. I know that for a fact because I read this
towards the end of my second semester. It was springtime, second semester of freshman year of college, which that's the year springtime Easter, freshman year of college. Dad's all the Lady. So I read this within weeks of Dad seeing the Lady, which is ironic, and at the time I didn't understand the significance. That's wild, you know, but crazy damn. That's all I got. Boys. That's it, y'all. Thanks for tuning in for another on one. We love y'all. And you know what I'm saying,
read that book. It's pretty good, super good. Yeah, movie's good too. Don't listen to the haters. For sure. I I really said, an enjoyable movie. Yeah. Like if I was if I wanted somebody to experience this story and they weren't really a reader, I'd be like, just watch the movie. It gives you a lot of the deep information. Yeah, you'll get it. You'll get it. So check it out. Love y'all. Bye God or the Blade Cealoue. Dude, this is King
Arthur's sword in the crail. Yeah, the Blade in the Chalice. Exactly crazy. It's Craig Craig, all right. Weird things happen in the backyard of Bletsoe House. Shit so weird, like smiring on the inside of it. No one knows that. Wow, it's come I've ever told sold