124: Spirit Science 2: Frequency & Vibration

Weird thing happened in Weird Weird weird. Hey about how we start welcome, Uh, we have part two of our brand new segment, Spirit Science. Very exciting. Excuse me. We we were gonna do uh three parts on the like energy frequency vibration thing, but then we started talking about it, and and Nick and his research started realizing there's just so much overlap with the

uh, you know, the frequency and vibration thing. Yeah, it's like essentially when you really get down to the science of it, like frequency causes vibration. Yeah, you know what I mean, it's there, they're kind of synonymous. So point being, we're gonna just cover that in one episode and then we can you know, pivot in the future to do other topics like you know, crystals or meditation or whatever really is clestial bodies. We have so many I mean, it's science. We can go literally a million

directions. Yeah, but if you didn't catch the first one. The reason we're doing energy frequency vibration up front is because of the quote from Nikola Tesla, like, if you want to understand the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. True true true, true true true true. So I did grab the definition. I thought it'd be cool like the I did too. Oh for real? Yeah, well how about I read frequency and you read vibration. Hell yeah, okay. Frequency it's measured in hurts.

It's the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit of time. Now I feel like I understand it even less. Really frequency? Well okay, because think about it, there's kind of two ways you can look at frequency. You could look at it as like, what is the frequency in which I eat pizza? You know, like once every week, once every two weeks, you know whatever, the one hurt right right, one hurt a week, tummy hurt. I was gonna say, I do we hurt

after as a frequency of one? My tummy hurts from eating pizza. We just had pizza for lunch. Yeah, that's why I was thinking. Uh. But then think of it in more of like a scientific like frame. It's like a wave, like a sound wave or a light wave or a All right, I'm with you, my god, He's like, I'm understanding. Keep going. I get it now, I get it. I get it. Why do we have to choose like a surfer? Bro? He chose us to be honest. It's like a wave. I'm sorry, I'm

just writing it down. Everybody write it down. It's like a wave. Uh. But you know with like a light wave or a sound wave or something like that, you would you would measure the quote unquote frequency in like how many times that thing whatever it is, goes forward and back? And that's how you know that makes sense, Like the complete cycle. If we're talking in the wave, it's the complete cycle of the wave exactly. Yeah, like from the crest to the trough or whatever the term is. I

don't know. I like enth grade trough sounds cool. I think that's what it makes me think of pigs. Wait, what was that you said? The peak and is the crest and the trough or am I just being crest? It's the crest and the barrel. Dude? That's surfing again, bro, can you that's you're thinking about surfing again? Dude? Also, nice shirt, Alex, Thanks dog. I like it. I can't see it right there? It is? It is. I was right, it's creston trough. Top is the crest and the lower part of the trough. You're

teaching me about the trough? Yeah, Yeah, there's this thing that happens where Ryan thinks about pigs a lot, and uh, I was like, pig trough. Okay, you want to know something funny there? You know how growing up I always had this like pigs are just there's there's such amazing Yeah, they're just such amazing animals and nature because first of all, they're funny. Ryan's favorite animals are pigs and ducks for sure, like they're on

there for sure. Like as a child, I always begged my parents for a pig or a duck, when now my dad has like one hundred and fifty ducks. Yeah, but I never did get a pig. But you know what, you know, I think there's something to that because I never knew this until I read my dad's book. I never knew that before he was a carpenter, he was a pig farmer. Huh right. I learned stuff about my dad in that book that I did not know. He was

a pig farmer. Our family goes back farming hogs. That's special. Maybe that's that gene in my brain. I I always thought pigs were so funny. And so you got a pig blood memory in there, I guess, Yeah, it's in your DNA, like you want to be a round pig. You're called to do it, dude, That's what I'm saying. How cool would it be if one day you like just got a few pigs, like a pet pig, yeah, or or a few I'm talking a whole farm. No, I mean, I mean that is your destiny. Yeah,

you know, if we'll boil it down. But dude, they're so smart. Oh, they're very like okay, fifth smartest animal on the planet or somewhere. Can I can I potentially blow your mind with a pig fact? Sure, real quick. It's a little different than a rock fact, but it's a pig fact. Okay, ready, all right? Do you

know you know about wild bore right? Huh uh? And then you have like your domesticated pig, would you and would you like assume that those are two completely different genus, like two different into two different kinds of animal, right? Okay, I mean that's what I thought my entire life. Right. I found out recently and I like saw it on a podcast and then I had to go and dig and verify it. And it's real. This is insane that when a domesticated pig like gets out of their domicile and is

in the wild in just a matter of six weeks. Six weeks, they begin to transform. They grow tusks, what they grow hair, Their hide becomes thicker, they become more aggressive, they eat more. They quite literally like metamorphosize, metamorphize whatever into another animal. Wow. So like the hairy, scary wild boar that you picture in your mind is literally a domesticated pig. Wow, just in the wild. In a matter of six weeks, they start to transform. And underneath it all they just bacon. Oh,

we're eating lunch, and Alex goes respectfully. I think we're all on one thing. That is that how I talk. Yeah, you're talking about the man in the mirror homie. Okay, yeah, that's how he talks respectfully. You've heard his voice on the show I did verify. Pigs are on the smartest Animals list, Yeah, top five. Guess or what else is up there? Raccoon? Oh I wouldn't have guessed that. Wow. The

rest seem where pretty obvious, you know, like dolphins, crows. Crows are hella smart, they mourn they're dead, they have like they low key have like funerals. A crow talking to me once and it freaked me out. Oh really, Yeah, for real where my wife and I I'd say, after their sake, not yours. Yeah. Yeah, we are downtown here in Wilmington, and there's apparently this like locally notorious crow that lives in

one of the alleyways down there. And we didn't know, and we were just walking through and like, we were meeting some friends for dinner that night, and when we were at the car and we were saying, you know, we both park on the street and we're like, bye, have a good night. Then the crow from down the alleyway said in a like a kind of a really high pitched sing songy voice. It was like, bye, have a good night. No. We were like, what, you could see it? You could see the crow? Yeah, dude, that

would freak me out. It lives there, It lives in the alley. Yeah, it just talks to people. Yeah. Yo, they're so smart. You know, he's probably like trying to scare people. Or maybe it's just very social, yeah maybe, or maybe when people get scared they drop all their food. Oh that's terrorizing us. Quote the raven. Bye, it was pretty scary. I'm not gonna lie, Like, whoa was it over by the uh? Edgar Allan Poe place. No, that's out by the beach. Oh kay was it called post tavern or yeah? Yeah?

Okay, okay, this is the Frequency and Vibration episode. I forgot not the pigs and crows. Yeah, pigs are very that's I mean, can we have a pigs and absolutely? It'll come out right after the Esoteric SpongeBob episode. So that's gonna be a hell of a week, y'all. Don't want to miss it somewhere. Haven't done Esoteric ratitui yo? I forgot that. Let's have a whole separate kids show, Esoteric blue Eyes, cool volunteer

Shark. I'm gonna had this project. You get the cocomelon yeah yeah, yeah yeah all right, So I can't believe we got off on such a tangent. Okay, did we wrap up the definition of frequency? Yeah? It waves. It was like a sentence, yeah yeah, yeah, mine. My definition is basically the same thing frequency and physics the number of waves that pass a fixed point in unit time. So I wrote down the like

physics version, your version is the most broad version, yeah covers. I did that on purpose, right, because I was looking at the physics versions and I was like, that's that's a little too technical, sure, Yeah, and then vibration is an oscillation of the parts of a fluid or an elastic solid whose equilibrium has been disturbed, or of an electromagnetic wave. So

let's it's a little it's a little weird. It's particle shaking. Yeah, and it's yes, exactly, it's particles shaking, and it's like the frequency that those things are shaking at, cause that the effect of the frequency is the vibration. I mean, that's why they're like basically the same thing, because it's like vibration is the product of particles vibrating at a certain certain frequence. So like sound is the frequency, music is the frequency, and dancing

is the vibration. That's a that's a poetic way to look at it. Yeah, So naturally, it's like, why are we talking about this stuff in the first place. Well, I I love the concept that, like, you know, taking the science, which all science really is, you know, if you break it down, it's just like people trying to objectively understand the known phenomena of the universe, right, Like it's just trying to understand the universe, and in my opinion, the universe contains all reality that

we know that exist and can observe, you know. Unfortunately, we are like kind of at that point where I think, like the mainstream has it fully accepted that there is a little bit more. But it's getting close. It's getting very close. Like I think we're there, but it's like today our subject matter is going to cover a lot of that as well, right, Like how we are getting there as a as a race, as a human race. We're on the cusp of discovering this stuff from a scientific perspective.

It's just not like everyone knows about it and accepts it yet, you know what I mean, I think we're there, Like, dude, especially with you know, stuff I know personally and people I've interacted with and studies with my dad and the beings and all that. Un it's like we're in a crazy time right now where we're discovering a lot of really cool stuff.

Well, think about this. A couple of the most let's just say, like kind of out there practices in science that are recognized by all scientific minds in the world have emerged in the past few decades being well, I mean quantum physics, the you know, it's it's more than a few decades, but like the serious pursuit of it in the past twenty thirty years has been big time like that, it's it's been a huge focus of the scientific community.

Quantum physics and string theory. Those are two like weird, they're like right, fringe, yeah, yeah, science, but they are fundamentally recognized by all scientific minds, like you know, whether it's like Neildograss Tyson, you know, to even like creationists, scientists recognize these fundamentals. So both sides of your spectrum, like, well, I would say Neildograss Tyson seems to be more spiritually agnostic, like he's not like, no such thing,

it's bullshit whatever. He's more like, I'm a scientist and I never I never cut off a possibility in my mind until the data conclusively shows that it should be cut off. So he keeps an open mind, but he's like waiting to see like physical evidence. And then you have someone on the opposite side of the spectrum, like let's say Bill Gates or not Bill Gates, Bill Nye, Bill ny who is like very like devoutly atheist and like no

spirituality, no, none of that. It's only both of them except string theory quantum physics, like quantum mechanics, even though they are so fringed. You know, it's funny. I'm glad you brought that up, because like, I can't wait for the day that they're humbled and they see that like the reality behind what is and like that's something that actually Dad and I just did an interview recently with actually Molly who we recently just had on the show

Molly Adler, and we went on her show. It's not quite out yet, it might be by the ten this episode airs, but she asked a specific question. I can't even remember the question, but that's response was funny. She was like, what does the CIA think about like why they haven't come forward with the knowledge or something like that. And Dad was like, well, you know, according to what they're telling us, or maybe it was like, how do you think that the world will receive disclosure and all

that? You know, do you think there'll be chaos? Right? It's whatever? And Dad was like, no, I don't think it'll be like that at all, you know, according to what they're truly concerned about. It's like the people will be fine. They'll see on the TV. You know, there's some UFO or whatever. They'll go back to normal life. They won't care, just just like every day, you know. But it's

the academics, the the mainstream accepted body of knowledge. It's like, what about all these people out there who've been teaching it a certain way, writing these books, you know, saying this is the way it is, this is the way it is. You know, are they going to be qualified to teach? Right? It would It's theoretically discredit a lot of it. It's gonna it's gonna bring them all back down to a square one where we're all at the bottom and we have to figure out what's really going on here.

And you know, all these people in this industry who are like atheism, atheism, atheism, that this that it's like they're they're going to all of a sudden be like, oh my god, like I was wrong, you know. Yeah, And I think that is even if you just think of it from the lens of like being a good scientist, it's not good to be so close minded. The entire purpose of science is to keep an

open mind and let's just try to understand the truth with no bias. Yeah, no bias at all, Right, meaning if something comes around that is like suggesting that the soul is real, which like, obviously we here believe

that it absolutely is. We have That's what the show's about. But like a lot of these scientists are holding out on that kind of stuff, you know, and a lot of them if if there was, like if it was right in front of their face, some sort of evidence or proof or whatever, a lot of them would still have to They'd feel like they have to like dig their feet in the sand because they have decades dedicated to thinking

like this. But like a real true blue scientist would be excited at the prospect of learning more about the un Yeah, I've actually met people like that at NASA, JPL, you know, Harvard, Uh, et cetera, et cetera. I pick a university, and it's it's crazy, man, like meeting neuroscientists who are seeing you know, like the neuroscientists who worked on on on the Beyond Skinwalk episode, and like dude, just like the shock in his eyes when he realized, like, oh my god, like this

is something I've never seen. I don't understand, but it's real. It's happening right in front of me. Let's keep studying. Yeah, you know, what I mean, let's keep going it's crazy. Before we get into like a lot more of your like study based material, I'd like to quickly

go over some of the mythology this. This is the reason I was particularly excited about this episode because like there's a there's a trend in the ancient past where different religious systems or traditions had some sort of message about the universe being created through the word of God. Yeah, this is good. So you give the mythology and then I'll give you the science to back it up. Yeah. I like that. That's cool. We should maybe like continue that

kind of like format for this. Like that's kind of how like I to think about it. You know, like it's bringing both it's spirit science. It's bringing the spirit what the claims are, but then bringing the science to be like, well, maybe there's some think I think in the energy when we kind of flipped it and did the science first, But I think I like this idea. Let's yeah, I want to hear it. I want to hear So obviously we're going to start with the third Hermetic law, the

principle of vibration. You know, this has been taught since before society was anywhere near what it is today. We're talking thousands upon thousands of years. Nothing rests, everything moves, everything vibrates. We know that to be true. It's known as the Brownian movement, the Brownian motion. You know, they know verifiably, without a shadow of a doubt, that every atomic particle is constantly vibrating. But it's like, you know, there's physical matter because

they vibrate so close together. And that's the science, right. I thought you were hitting me with the mythology, well for that one specifically, but yeah, we're gonna go. But it's just like this is proven. You know, Yeah, everything vibrates. It's just true. What if your thoughts vibrated, you know what I mean? What if your emotions vibrated? What if there were vibrations and other realities that we don't know how to detect that have a meaning. Keep that stuff in mind for later people. So here's

in the Bible, John chapter one, verse one. This is like probably the most famous example of this of all time. In the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him, all things were made. Without him, nothing was made that has been made in it was life and that and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in

the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. So like right there, the Book of John is probably the most famous gospel, you know, and we know that it was written by Neoplatonists Greeks, Yeah, which is people who were more in line with like you could say gnostic thinking, you could say Plato kind of thinking, which Plato would deserve his own entire episode. But like the idea here is that like this this group of people who

wrote this text were not just strict Christians, you know. It was like they had this concept that there is an invisible absolute reality. Like it's like we Plato taught you know, the shadow of the cave or the allegory of the cave, Like there's a light, the sun is outside the cave. The cave is the metaphor of this like illusory reality that we're experiencing. The sun is outside, it's shining into the cave. Well, we're inside the

cave, right, Let's hypothetically like we're in it. We can't see the sun out the cave, but we can see the shadow on the wall that is casting from the light outside. So like it's a several thousand year old metaphor that Plato created to say, like, we don't live in the reality where we can see the true light. We're seeing the shadow on the wall. Don't get caught up on that. It's not the whole truth. You see what I'm saying this line of thinking was who wrote the Gospel of Yeah?

Which like that that that should up in the whole thing, Like people don't realize that. Yeah, and I mean we know the original Greek translation was, uh, it was the instead of words, Yeah, it was logos. Yeah. We said that in episode one. Mind, Yeah, the mind in the beginning, right was the mind? Like, which is just the universe is mental. That's this whole right right, Really, if you want to get into spirit science, which you're in it, I mean

you're here, thank you. Yeah. Uh, that's the backdrop of this whole thing. The universe works mentally. Kendrick lamar bar Oh he said that. Nice. Wow, he said, I know everything. I know. The universe works mentally. So let's see what Christmas says. This is in the Bagavat Gita. I'm not very familiar with the Bagavad Gita. Like, I know, I didn't grow up you know, Hindu, so I didn't

sit down reading it a lot. So I'm kind of like new to actually reading some of the texts, and it can be confusing from from a Western mindset, you know, just speaking English and having to get acclimated with all these terms and stuff. But it's it's the Bagavad Gita. I guess it's

chapter seven, verse eight. I don't know if it's in chapters or verses or whatever exactly, but it says, O, son of Kunti, I am the taste of water, the light of the sun and moon, the syllable om in the Vedic mantras, I am the sound and ether and ability in man. So like Krishna is the same, like kind of like the Christ figure. Yeah you know what I mean. Like it's the sense that like he is God, but also like the God that like comes down and

manifests to like redeem people. But then you have this concept of the supreme higher God known as Brahma, Yeah, which in their you know, places God. Yeah exactly, it's like this great mind. But you know, in Hinduism, it's like this great mind Brahma, Krishna it goes by many

names, you know, different aspects of the same deity. It vibrated reality into existence strictly through the word om, which again it's like, you know, there's there's the belief that even chanting, like Rosa Cruscans tell you in their first module, you know, chanting the word om it stimulates certain energy centers in the way that the sound moves through the throat from the stomach and leaves, and it just stimulates all these different things. You know, there's

supposed to be a power to the actual word itself. Feels good to say, well, we know that it has power because it got duncan trustle on our podcast that's true? And then you did it with us, Yeah, all right. And then Krisnik goes on to say, I am the father of this universe, the mother, the support, and the grand Sire. I am the object of knowledge, the purifier, and the syllable om. I am also the RG. I'm not sure if that's I think that's like

abbreviated for rig, like the rig vedas. It's a body of text, so I'm just assuming it means I'm the syllable of the rig, the Sama and the yadger Vedos, I am the syllable oh, God is in this text, God is saying, I am om, I am the vibration. I am the invisible sound that holds the universe together, you know. And this is a Native American Indian myth creatation story. I thought this was pretty

cool. In the center of the universe, she sang in the midst of the waters, she sang, in the midst of heaven, she sang in the center. She sang. Her singing made all of the worlds, the worlds of the spirits, the worlds of the people, the worlds of the creatures, the worlds of the gods. And this way she separated the quarters singing, she separated upon the face of heaven, she placed her song upon the place upon the face of water. She placed her song. Thus she

placed her song. Thus she placed her will. Thus well she her design. Thus sang the spider. Thus she thought, Laguna. This is the Laguna Pueblo, Native American Indian myth. That's beautiful. So you have these different cultures from around the world. And there's even more like you can get into the story of I didn't even write them all down, but you have

like Egyptian versions where like thought is speaking the word into reality. But I didn't pull from that because I was like, I don't know, because depending on the era of the Egyptian dynasties, like the myth was a little different. Like in some they think Atoum rose from this primordial water of chaos and like ordered universe into you know, existence. Some versions say that Raw sprang forth from this primordial mound and created the universe with his eyes, you know,

seeing everything, and then some say thought vibrated it. So I was like, I don't know, I'm gonna stay away from that one. Yeah, but it is wild, Like if you try to think about the majority of creation stories that you've heard out there, almost all of them are either like speaking, singing or music thinking yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, thinking yeah, which I mean we've talked about and we talked about in the Energy

episodes some and we'll talk about more here. There are there are tons of beliefs out there that thought it produces waves, measurable waves, I mean, we can measure them. So yeah that it's like most creation stories, creation is brought about through vibration, and it's wild that in this modern day we finally learned everything's vibrating. Yeah. Literally. So there's a few more things I want to hit in the ancient world, and then we'll move forward to

the you know, like the evidence. But it's crazy, man, because like the ancients all had this idea across the world, separated by oceans, you know what I mean, different cultures, Native Americans over here in the West, and Egyptians and even the Greeks. Well, I'm about to read some Pythagoras and what he believed about the universe being a harmonic frequency, you

know. And it's like, we have this idea that somehow the universe vibrated into reality by this intelligent mind, this intelligent order, and it's like, man, that's that's just so like amazing to consider. But then there's also the idea that the whole universe itself is a cosmic symphony. Yeah, you know what I mean, like and all, so they go so far as to depict there's four icons of Shiva, four popular icons of Shiva. I don't have them all memorized off the top of my head. I'm just quoting

a college course that took a long time ago. But one of them is this stone. It's like this little stone monument of Siva. That's just like an icon of his image. But then the really popular icon that we've all seen, whether you know it or not, is the ring of fire, where Shiva's dancing, right, and what that symbolic of is the cycle of creation and destruction in the universe. But it's Shiva just dancing for all of eternity going through the movements of the cycles of life and death. For aball

eternity. It's a big dance. But also the placement of the celestial bodies is a big song. So Pythagoras had this whole theory. He actually had a whole mystery system that not a whole lot is known about, you know, to wider audiences. But he was like kind of the father of like sacred geometry and that kind of thing, and like it's attributed to him to have developed the scale, like the musical scale, you know, by learning

there's certain mathematical ratios. He could divide a string and make you know, chords and scales and whatever. But he had this entire theory called the music of the spheres right where the seven classical planets back then they had seven classical planets, and he went so far as to say that these planets, because of their orbit around each other, being in such a perfect harmony that it's emitting this this cosmic song. Yeah, the resonance between all those celestial bodies

is creating a song, right. It's called the music of the spheres, the harmony of the spheres, whatever. So it's an ancient philosophical concept that regards proportions in the movements of celestial bodies the Sun, the moon, and the planets as a form of musica, the medieval Latin name for music. The music's not audible, but it's a mathematical concept. So they believe that

the vibration of this cosmic song exists within the numbers. That's how the Greeks thought, you know, and the Egyptians too, But you know, we know more about what the Greek thought. The Greek philosopher Pythagoras is frequently credited with originating the concept, which stemmed from his semi mystical, semi mathematical philosophy

and associated system of numerology of Pythagoreanism. At the time, the Sun and the moon and the planets were thought to revolve around Earth in their proper spheres. The spheres were thought to be related by the whole number of ratios of pure musical intervals, creating musical harmony. The legend goes that Pythagorasts could hear the music of the spheres, enabling him to discover the consonant musical intervals can

be expressed in simple ratios of small integers. The tones correlated with the great celestial movements of the day. Pathagoras's concepts were transferred by Plato later and others

into models about the entire structure of the universe. So based on these theories of the spheres and all this vibration and frequency stuff, and all their ancient knowledge, they came up with these whole systems, you know, of thought based around this, which again, this is the kind of Greek thinking people that wrote the Gospel of John, right, you know, So like that's that's what I want people to understand, is like, you know, we

read the Gospel of John. It's like the most famous profound Christian text. It doesn't mean what you think. It's a mystical text. Pithagoras told the Egyptian priests that thought the Egyptian deity gave him the ability to hear the music of the fears. He believed that only the Egyptians of the right bloodline, passing successful initiations, could enter the temples and learn the mysteries set in place

by the gods at the beginning of time. To learn more, he had to win their confidence and needed to appear as a royal soul bega of the gods and above the sins of man. So just really you know, fascinating stuff. Yeah, it is. It is really fascinating. And there's this this thing about music, right, It's in a lot of these creation stories.

It's like some people, especially scientists, like to think that like, oh right, music, We love music so much as a human race because it's and in our brain it's it's satisfying to our brains that we can audibly identify these patterns, and that's why we like music so much. I think it's way deeper. Oh yeah, man, me too. You know you've heard a song that rattles your soul and and it like it produces physical reactions from your body. Like it's it's so much more than satisfying patterns in our

in our minds. It's it's like resid music resonatic, it is, and it resonates with our souls, you know, not just not just the listening of music either, but if you take it a step further, if you if you are a musician, or or you experiment with instruments or music, there's this cosmic dance thing that happens where at a certain point you just you know, when you're driving and you forget you're driving for a minute and then

you're like, whoa, I'm driving. That happens with music too, Like you'll just be doing something and then you'll realize afterwards, like did I just do that? Yeah, you did that last night. Yeah. It just associates recording twice born. Yeah, it's that's that's not that can't be explained by like, you know, nuts in bolt science. It's not it's not that arc Oh, it's a pattern. It's it's deeply spiritually rooted and it's significant. I agree, dude. It's like, ever since we did that

stuff about Rick Ruben, I've been thinking about that differently. It's like, you know, I always thought about like do we create the music? I used to think that, but now I'm kind of like how you describe it, Like, no, it's capturate. Yeah, it's like what Plato said, this is the theory of forms, right, Like there's this invisible spiritual

dimension that is the true eternal dimension. We're down here on the little shadow and we're thinking about these big concepts, but in reality they are more real than we are. Like love is more real than we are. Truth is more real than we are. I'm going to die in fifty or sixty years. Truth won't right. Ten thousand years from now, they'll be talking about

what's the truth, you know, if they don't know it yet. Right, they'll be talking about I love you baby to their girl on a first date, and then they might think that's a little too clingy, and then you know what I mean. But I'm just saying, like, these concepts are more real than we are. They exist, They have an energy. The songs that people write or capture or whatever. I feel like maybe it

already exists. It does, and we are just living our funny little material lives, sometimes accidentally getting into the correct mental state to where we're like picking up on that from behind the veil and then bringing it in here. We're playing it, we're singing it, whatever, and now we're vibrating it out into the real world for others to experience. Yeah, absolutely magic. It's like musicians are messengers, yeah, muses, muses. Yeah, it's like

the muses. You know, it's an abstract concept, but they're whispering to us the things from beyond the veil so that we can capture it and have a piece of it here. Yeah, it's it already is out there. Every bit of music that could ever be written is in the ether. It's it's between realms, swirling around, waiting to find a node in this realm to sprout through. Yeah, that's how Rick Rubin explains. I agree with

that. It's like and if it's trying to find one and somebody, it finds somebody and they don't see it to fruition, it'll find another one and sprout on the other side of the planet and somebody will be like I wrote that, but it's not. And to further that, I mean it's a spirit science episode. Right, Yeah, we just off the top of my

head, we can talk about morphogenetic resonance. Oh right, how they do studies with like rats and monkeys, Like they'll take rats on one side of the planet and they will you know, put them through this series of complicated

mazes that or you know whatever. A monkey will use a spoon and then all around the world they start popping up learning how to use tools, or the rats on the other side of the world will be able to complete this difficult task that the rats on this side of the world took so long to accomplish. It's like there that concept scientifically can be supported, Like yeah,

there's a there's Also another example is a species of coral. There's one specific, specific species of coral where no matter where on the planet that coral is, if it's been broken away from its like home or whatever, wherever it is, that specific species of coral, instantaneously on the same like same minute, same day, they will all begin to spore at the same time around the planet on a cosmic clock. I don't care about time zones. I

don't care about none of that. Sh It's it's instantaneous. That's like another example of morphogenetic resident They're all they're like a hive mind, right, it's like a hive mind. It's like it's like consciousness is non local, you know, yes, absolutely all right, let me hit you. Let's uh, let's get back on the rails with the frequency and vibration. Let me hit you with a couple really interesting quotes that I found first. Didn't know

this, but Albert Einstein was he was real. Yes, Like I know, he is obviously one of the most visionary, incredible scientists of all time. But I didn't know that he was also tapping into the spiritual stuff. I didn't realize that, right, it's not commonly known. Yeah, I didn't know that. And this goes really hand in hand to the conversation we were just having about music. This quote by Albert Einstein says, we're slowed down sound and lightweight. We are. We are slowed down, Yes,

wait, a walking bundle of frequencies tuned into the cosmos. We are souls dressed up in sacred biochemical garments, and our bodies are the instruments through which our souls play their music. Hold up, ah that boy, was that's a real Einstein quote. Yeah, I've never heard that much. Oh, oh bro, it shocked me. I've always been a fan of Einstein, and I've been fascinated with him. I remember one it was like third grade

for Show and tell, I brought in literally, I'm not joking. I wrote down like a breakdown of his his equation on energy, he equals MC squared and all that stuff. When I was like eight or something, eight or nine, I watched a documentary about Albert Einstein, and I took notes on it and brought it in for show and tell because I thought I was smart, and I never knew that he was also tapped into this spiritual stuff. I've seen some quotes before where he like generally talks about God, but

I never that's pretty deep. To hit you with another, I'll be einste one. Let's do it. This is a quick one. Future medicine will be the medicine of frequencies. Future medicine will be the medicine of frequency, damn, meaning you we can heal our bodies and bring our bodies into alignment

through frequencies, through resonant frequencies. I want one hundred percent believe that, like in my experience, you know, working with I haven't personally been to Monroe, but you know, my family has and have been dealing with people in that avenue and CIA scientists and other academicians, and just like seeing things that that are not commonly known, you know, how things happen, and like that, I just one hundred percent believe that to be true. Yeah,

it's funny. It's like he's being a little Koi with it. He's being a little poetic with it, maybe because he didn't want to be discredited by his scientific peers, but he's saying it. He's just being a little Koi. All right, one more. Are you familiar with Eckhart Tooley, Yeah, it's a quote, uh, not until you, until you surrender, does the spiritual dimension become a living reality in your life when you do, The energy you emanate and that then runs your life is of a much

higher vibrational frequency than the mind energy that still runs the world. This was it. I said, wow, oh yeah, this is a quote more focused on manipulating your own vibrational energy and maybe the way that your vibrational energy is sensitive to vibrations around you. Okay, well, let's get into the science I mentioned earlier. Two things, quantum physics and string theory. Relatively recent developments in those two fields suggest that, like we said earlier, everything

in existence is vibrating energy. If you want to go a little bit more in detail. String theory, right, is this big button topic that all the leading scientists in the world are real hot about. Right now, and it's really began to emerge in the past couple decades decades where they're making some

serious ground and it seems like this big, crazy, complicated thing. But I mean, you know what it is string theory minimally, like there's like eleven dimensions or something that we're entangled, right, I don't know that.

But the most fundamental, simple way to explain it is just that if you were to look in a microscope, the most powerful microscope you could imagine, and look all the way as deep as you could go, past molecules, atoms, the smallest, tiny, most fundamental thing we can find are these teeny tiny, little one dimensional strings that quite literally compose everything in the known universe. There is, there is not a thing in existence. The particles

of air are strings. But like what do they say or theorize this strings are even made of Well, it's not about what they're made of that it's it's it's a quark like everything, like any kind of particle exactly. It's imagine the very tiniest building block piece, right, the tiniest, tiniest, tiniest thing that makes up everything. You know, you have atoms and molecules and things that we know as like really really tiny, but what are those

made of? Right, right strings? They're made of these tiny, like infinitesimally tiny little strings, and they quite literally comprise everything. Those strings are what are vibrating on the smallest, most microcosmic level. That's that's very interesting. I've never heard it said like that before. That's the easiest, most fundamental way to just explain string theory. And let's just take that on face value for a second. We talk a lot about collective consciousness and how everything

in the known universe is all the same thing. It's all connected, it's all one thing that is scientific proof and backed up that it's it's not it's not bullshit. Literally everything is the same thing. It's yeah, it's it's all made by the same primordial thing. Yeah, it's these little tiny strings. And so we also know now this is not so string theory is still considered a theoretical science because from what I understand, they haven't published enough like

confirmed peer reviewed documents. You know. It's it's like formality type stuff. It's it's still considered theoretical, but it's you know, it's it's legit. But one thing that is is one science fact is that matter is low key and illusion right, I mean, it is just it's just vibrating. It's particles that have slowed down and to create an illusion of matter. That might sound fringe and weird and whatever, but you can this is verifiable. You

can look this up. Everything, every piece of matter, including you, the carpet on the ground, everything around you, is just particles that slowed down enough to seem like they are physical. Yeah, that's exactly right. That actually brings me to my next point. There was something I wanted to talk about, simatics. Oh well, because it's just perfect for frequency and

vibration. So for those out there who have never heard the word simatics, I highly recommend you go down a rabbit hole and you just go to YouTube and you type in cimatics cymatics and just start watching videos. Right, So, let me see I wrote down when they discovered it, cimatics. Yeah, the seventeen hundreds. So there was this German musician and scientist named Ernst Chladney who lived from seventeen fifty six to eighteen twenty seven, sometimes known as

the father of acoustics. I'm not sure who is, Maybe a mathematician Back then Captain Hook. I don't know. I mean, I think we're talking about a different Heartbold buddy almost certainly had access to Hook's work, but it's Chlodney who history has chosen to acknowledge for his major study of this class of phenomenon. So he would take a Sandstrom brass plate and he would take a violin bow. We're talking the seventeen hundreds, you know what I mean.

He's a violin player or whatever, and he would vibrate the sand with the violin bo on the on the brass and that's a resonant material, yeah, and it would start to make shapes. He found that there was this just repeating number of archetypal geometric patterns that could be created depending on where the edge of the plate, you know, he could tip the like how you play

a violin, you know what I mean. And they're known as Chladney figures because his name was Ernest Tladney's. Here's a diagram of the I mean, I'm gonna show to you. They won't be able to see it necessarily, but like all the archetypal shapes that he was discovering in the seventeen hundreds. By the way, it must have been so much. Oh yeah, it's like what does it mean? Right? Right? And then you know, as it goes on, time goes on. Hans Jinny studied visual sound.

He's a physician, fine artist, pianist, philosopher, historian, empirical researcher. He was nicknamed the Father of simatics. Between nineteen fifty eight and then his death in nineteen seventy two, he conducted a wide range of experiments documenting the effects of sound and energy on various media. This is the inspiration for the exploration ooh, that's a tongue twister. Inspiration for the exploration into simatics, which actually is really steeped in anthropopis Nope, let me try again.

Anthroposophy, which is the mystery system developed by Rudolph Steiner, which eventually we will, yes, we'll do an episode on in the Wisdom Tradition segment because

it's very fascinating stuff. But it basically the whole point of you know, the Rudolph Steiner material and vibration and thought forms and what it was all about was that it's just the fact that he human beings intellectually access and uncover elements of an existence existing spiritual plane, like can we can sense these dimensions with our psychic faculties, you know, And he was typing into that, you know, doing cimatics. So then it evolves over time. You get to

doctor Masaru Emoto. You know about that one, right, Oh yeah, so what masorrow Emoto did. I believe it was in the nineteen seventies and I think he has since passed. But he would take water and he would freeze it into its crystal form, which is just ice, you know. But he did like numerous repeated studies where he would say prayers or very positive chants or say things like love, peace, light, joy, gratitude,

and he would freeze it. And he did it probably dozens or hundreds of hundreds of times honestly, and would get the same results where when he froze these these uh these ice crystals with the positive words the GM metric patterns, and the ice crystals were harmonic. They were beautiful, they were pleasure eyes. Yeah, they're symmetrical, they were just beautiful snowflake. Uh huh yeah, look like yeah, there's all kinds of images online that he produced doing

this. But then he would say words like kill, death, play, hate you curse, Yeah, I hate you stuff like that, and it would be these just disgusting images when he frozen and he uh studied the crystal in structure. So like there's this concept of like what does that mean? Yeah, well, interestingly enough, I have I have a kind of a follow up to that experiment that was done by someone else. Okay, so yeah, what does that mean? That that would suggest that thoughts and words

changed the world around you? But to me, that is like I believe that had to be one hundred percent true. But I also wonder if it suggests the same thing as the music, where the words maybe already exist, sit somewhere and mankind has been discovering them and they might have some sort of prescribed meaning already you know, absolutely So from my perspective, it could mean

one of two things. Really, it could mean that it could mean that those words exist in another realm and carry their own vibrational frequency and they're consistent always. Or it could mean the intention coming from the person saying those words is creating those vibrations around them. There's no way to know. I mean, as far as current science stands, one day we'll be able to measure that and we'll know the answer, right, But I believe it is one

of those two. I think it is either Yeah, there are archetypal energies associated with everything in existence, including words, and we can summon those down here by using those words. Either that or it's your intention. Vibrating words are literally just a vibration. Yeah, what I mean, like when you think about it, but like it's just weird to think about. Now we're getting into this really calm plex idea where like, wow, some vibrations are

good for us, but some vibrations are bad for us. Yeah, let's take that, you know what I mean, what does it mean? Let's take that a step further really quick. This is a little associated to the phenomenon of cimatics. Check this out. This is so, there's this interesting phenomenon that occurs when different vibrating things come into close proximity with one another, they will start to After like a little bit of time, they will start to like sync up and trainment. Yeah, yeah, they will start to

match each other's frequencies. You know, I'm glad you said that. Yeah, they sink up. They'll begin to vibrate together at the same frequency. They sync up. Sometimes in a way that scientifically doesn't make sense. You know what else does that? What metronomes? What do you mean if you take like classic metronomes, the ones where they smell way, Yeah, they sync up. Yes, if they'ret the same bpm but you just different, Yeah, they sync up. You know what else? Analog metronomes? Yes,

that's crazy. You know what else does that? Crickets? What? Yes? Throughout the night that It's called entrainment. That's why, dude, I'm so glad you said that. I want you all to understand, like we don't know each other's notes coming in. It's all synchronous. It's like he brings what he brings, I bring and I bring and it just fleshes out. We don't talk about it before you go further, just real quick. This is described as the phenomenon of spontaneous self organization, also known as

entrainment. Yeah, yeah, so's it's crazy you say that because the thing that that you had asked me to talk about was like the theta waves and how those frequencies affect our brain. Right, And it's the same concept as exactly what you just described. It's what did you call it? Spontaneous organization? Uh? Self organis is spontaneous self organization. Yeah, it's like think about it. You take these different vibrations, right, and you just put

them beside each other, and over time they just begin to match. I think, right, that's what you said, right, They sink up. They think you know what else what other? Which doesn't make sense scientifically, like they they they're confused by this, right, But it makes sense to me because it's it's thermodynamics, right. You take two different heat sources.

Let's say you touch somebody's hand. This is just basic thermodynamics. One oh one, you touch somebody's hand and you keep it there, or you know, you have a I don't know, like cold water and you pour it on something hot, anything, anything that has different degrees of temperature, and you put them together. They match up, Yes, because the heat from whatever is significantly hotter will flow into the object that and eventually there will be

an equilibrium. Now I'm not talking like, oh my god, you know, I put lava on my hand and it melts my hand off. I'm not talking about that. I'm just saying like you touch somebody's hand, whoever's hotter, whoever's colder, your energy over time is going to equilibrate, it's going to flow into one another. So it's like it's like if that works with thermodynamics, but it also works with vibration, which heat is just vibration really when you think about it, it's energy. But like that's that's just

got to be some sort of harmony, does someone? I think it does? I think it does. I really think you've become similar. And think about women's menstrual cycles. They sync up. Yeah, yeah, if they're exposed to each other, and if they're around each other regularly, exactly if they're around each other and Nick, this is like the when you're playing one chord on the guitar over and over and over and the guitar across the room

that's not being played matches the same chord. Did you know it'll do that? I think you told me that. If I have a guitar sitting right here and there's one over there. Uh, it's it's not like every single note, but let's just say this. Let's say I'm playing a high e on this guitar, the low e on that guitar will start to resonate Wow, across the room. It's unbelievable. Okay, on the masaru Emoto thing.

I want to talk about an experiment that was conducted after that, because there was some controversy surrounding the masaru Emoto experiments because like nobody's been able to replicate it the same way, which makes perfect sense to me, because if we're talking about vibrational frequency coming from a person's mouth, their belief and intention has to be right, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's obviously not going to work. It's like getting spoons or it's like with anything that

phenomenon. Yeah, yeah, they're not going to show up if you're you got to have the actual true intention of belief. Do you know if he was doing it in English? No, no, no, okay, then that opens the door to other languages being more potent with energy. It's like Latin in Sanskrit have an energy to them that people are still beholden by you, right, and their dead language. I think there's something to that that

the words that they're using hold a stronger value. Like like we talk about like the word love in the West is kind of like it got like eight meanings, right yeah, right, It's very like Laise Fair and I love my homies. But I love pizza, but I love my mom and dad. But I love my wife, but I love video games, you know what I mean. And in the East there's eight different words for that. Well, and in Greece as well that there's like four or five four.

Yeah, no, that's a great point. I didn't think about that well. Doctor Rebecca Marina, in an attempt to reproduce some of masaru Imoto's findings, she actually got a hold of the same microscope that he used. It's called the dark field microscope. Wow. She studied her own red blood cells with the assistance of doctor Ferici, it's her one of her colleagues. They studied and photographed her blood cells under different physical and emotional state and this is

what they found. This is crazy. When she was sad, her blood cells moved quickly and they became seriously, they became tear shape. What when she was sad? What they I mean? I looked at all the photos. It's it's mind blowing. Her blood cells were in the shape of perfect tears. When her emotions reflected great love, the shape and formation and the

speed became normal, and no joke that they became. Her blood cells began to sparkle what like, like like with these little flints of light that weren't present before, these little little little glints of light, similar to like when an egg is fertilized and there's a flash of light, right, Like little weird things like that. When she was anxious, her blood cells clumped together and they started moving all quickly tenchin yes, tenchin yeh, which was identical

to when they studied her blood cells when she was sick. Wow, So fear is like makes you sick. Yeah, yeah, it's it's like it's not it's dude. Like just an example, my sister Emmy, it's her birthday today while we're recording too, so shout out Emmy, Happy birthday,

Happy birthday. My whole childhood she was always involved with piano recitals and dances and you know she you know how it was like she was always in these these these performances and stuff like with a bunch of other you know, young girls or age thirty or forty of them, you know, and like it was a it's just a well known thing in dam answer theater or music or whatever, any sort of group of people that are like rehearsing and rehearsing and

rehearsing for an entire season and then getting super stressed and then performing. The kids get sicker the more stressed they are. It's just it's just true. And it's another fundament of science, which is that we know that our thoughts and emotions they cause our body to release different chemicals. Yeah, like cortisol. Yeah, makes us sick. They always say stress is a killer.

Yeah, you know what I mean, It absolutely is. It's it's real, and I mean that alone is very spiritual and it's like very outside of this like physical world. Like if you're sad, your body starts to get sick. If you're stressed, your body starts to get sick. Like, yeah, that's weird. If you're sad, your blood cells turn into tears. Your shape. That one's got me kind of messed up, bro. I'll show you. I'll show you. All right. This is the last

experiment that they did, which is the most mind blowing. It gets weirder, yes, for sure. So they were like shook by these results already. They're like, wow, this is crazy. It's time to bring in our colleagues to look at this. They brought in colleagues. They grouped her blood cells into like four or five different groups, right, because they wanted

to do controlled experiments across all these groups. The colleagues came in and they picked I believe two of the groups of blood cells, and the colleagues prayed over the blood cells. Wow, they prayed extensively for like an hour over

these blood cells. Everyone in the laboratory. When the studies were finalized and they got all the data and collected it and presented it, everyone there was stunned because the blood fluid that was prayed over not only shined what like bright, not just the little glints of light from before, but like it was like glowing. But hold on, but we are talking about at a level that's so far beneath the detection of the human eye. Right, Oh,

I, how are talking about like microscope? It's a dark it's called a dark field microscope. Is that a dark microscope? Yes? So it shines it essentially it completely blacks out everything behind it so that you could see things

like this light and things like that. That's how they were able to see the flash from a fertilization of an egg from a microscope like this, So it shined the way dude, the this is insane the blood cells separate from her body that were being preyed over the light and the motion were pulsating at the same rate of her resting heart rate. What her blood cells her blood cells on a plate separate from her body that have been separated for hours.

They're entangled. They are they are They're still connected. There's still how how is you know? Like there's no there's no connection to everything in the human body that blood cells need to function. And yet they've been prayed over and they're glowing and strobing like a heartbeat in the same pattern as when they were measured when when she was feeling peaceful. Wow, And the cells that were not prayed over weren't even moving. See that just that just makes it were

they weren't think they weren't moving. It was like the prayer extended the life of the blood cells. That makes me think really hard, Like there's just there's so much stuff that like we don't understand. Oh yeah, like that's that's way crazier than the water thing. Oh yeah, for sure. And and it was this was conducted to try to corroborate his findings and like low key, there were some groundbreaking discoveries that weren't even realized before that came from

this this study. It seems to me like if we're gonna hit it from the spiritual angle, you know, reflecting on this kind of data, just like the thought that comes to my mind is like, there has to be I cannot accept otherwise. There has to be some sort of underlying eternal law that is behind every layer of reality that like everything is seeking harmony, everything is seeking order, everything is seeking unity. Dude, you got crickets in

nature and training metronomes even it freaking sounds. You got water crystals and training to the vibration of our words. You got your bloods cells in a dish you know, far away, and training to your prayers. And it's like it's like even heat, even heat is seeking to equilibrate. Sure, you know, we have skin and flesh and material matter that will burn, you know, and it can it can harm us on the physical level. But

in reality it's like there's like an algorithm. There's like when it seems like when when when everything was created, there was this algorithm that's like everything is seeking harmony. Well, bro, even when you do get burned, the burn that results on your hand is the result of trying to equilibriate quickly enough, equilibrate quickly enough right to compensate, but it's too harsh. Even a

burn is a result of trying to match up. It's trying. It wants to protect you because it's it's like a yeah, exactly, it's like a law, dude. It's like, I imagine that if we were to examine every kind of science, like molecular biology, quantum physics, heat, the thermo nuclear I don't know all the terminology, but all the different kind of side but I'm I'm willing to find, like to believe that we would find

that everything is seeking harmony. And it's like that kind of that's kind of crazy because there's so much nihilism, there's so much atheism, there's so much just negative, fearful thinking about the state of the world and the way that it is. But like that's because it's perpetrated by us, dummy, ignorant

humans. But I feel like if we forget about that and forget about what we know, like I think what actually exists in what actually is is like the higher spiritual realms are just harmony and love and light, and it's like everything it's it's it's it's crazy to me, man, you're talking about blood cells are mirroring the state of the person when they're sitting in a dish, a dish, a dish. They're harmonizing with your emotions and your thoughts and

your vibrations, even after separated from your physical body. Yeah, it's like it's like in reality, all phenomena truly are one. Yeah, we just can't see the big picture yet or the tiny picture of springs. Yeah, we're all just a bunch of strings. That is the big picture. And how beautiful is it that it's strings that created yeah things? Yeah, sure, strings, it's music. That's because only a string can vibrate in such

a pure way. Only Wow, a thin, fundamental, tiny building block of a thing can you manipulate so clearly to be able to resonate loudly. It's it's I think, I think that's like the poetry of the universe, like right from strings we were made and from strings we remain. There is an ancient Hindu myth about It's called Indra's net, right, or you could say Indra's web like a spider web or like a net that you cast out

to catch fish, and you know how the shape is. It's just like it's a bunch of strings intersecting, you know, in a cross like pattern, not not like v cross, but like they're crisscross, you know. And the idea is that consciousness is symbolized by if you lay the net out in the garden overnight and then when the sun comes up, by that time, there's dew, right, So as the sun's coming up and the sun is shining on all of the drops of dew that exist equally on every intersection

of the net. So when the sunlight is shining on the dew, the light from that sunlight is reflected evenly in every drop of water. So the idea is that this net that's holding everything together, but where all those little nodes of consciousness at this intersection all reflecting the same original light. Right. So it's like, dude, I really, I really think that these ancients

knew way more than we think they knew. Yeah, And they had these metaphors because they're a powerful mechanism to impact the mind throughout thousands of years to take these really complicated concepts simplify it in a way that will last for so many people to understand you know, it's that reminds me of Dune, the Beni jesire it. They have a quote where they say our plans are measured in eras or our plan our plans are measured in eons, Like yeah,

thousands and thousands of years. You know, they would like go to these planets and plant these concepts so that thousands of years later, when Paul finally showed up, they were like, that's the guy, right, you know it. It's like it's it's yeah, it's insane. It's like tapping into the infinite knowledge is something that has been possible since the beginning of time.

If you believe the universe is mental, mental, then you know that ever since the universe existed, this knowledge has existed somewhere, right, and it's obvious that people have been tapping into it forever thousands of years. You can

look at the Dogon tribe in Africa five thousand years ago. Literally they existed five thousand years ago and still do today, and and they're kind of like famous in the in the UFO research scene because they had all this material about having interacted with a type of light beings that they claimed came from the star Sirius, and like only the elder of the village could could meet with them and receive the wisdom because it was taxing on the body, you know.

So it was like there was always this shamanic elder who was like this high priest initiate who would go and interact with these beings and then bring the information. But dude, check this out. They had diagrams the Dogon tribe, right, they had diagrams that they depicted symbols thousands of years ago. Just for an example, one of those diagrams that they drew is the exact scientific model of a half spin particle. It was only developed in the last few

decades. That was only discovered. That's not possible with the brain alone five thousand years ago. Dude. Yeah, an agrarian tribe in Africa. So these beings came down and told us all this stuff about the universe, and they had these symbols that I can't remember it off the top of my head, but it was like they had like certain repeated symbols that were very sacred to them, and it was like lines of water and it represent like the

waves holding together all of reality and earth and air. But they had all these esoteric meanings to them that were very scientific, that stuff we're discovering now. So it's like the same thing with the pyramids. And that's just one example. Dude. Well, the pyramids they're aligned to perfect exact north, south, east, and west right. They're aligned perfectly to the Three Kings constellation. Yeah, they're aligned perfectly with like the dimensions of the planet.

Like they represent an exact, scaled down dimension of the plan. Like, but dude, even the pyramids in like Mexico are in line with them, those pyramids, yeah, right, And I mean, look, it's like, how else can you explain that, Like, yes, it's possible that they were extremely advanced architects, sure, but like more advanced than computers, right that we have today. I mean maybe, but like to me,

it's it's more believable that you know. I'll just use my example as like being a musician, I pull things that I don't know where they come from. They just pop into my head and they come out, and that's it.

I don't know how it works, it just happens to me. I've experienced that, so I can believe people were experiencing that thousands of years ago in the field that they are interested in architecture, they're pulling it from from somewhere else and they're like, whoa hold up, let me And they might

not have even known that those were the alignments that they were making. Yeah, you know, I feel like but dude, then it's like you go all over the world and you see not only Teachinitza, but it's incredible. You know that that's that's crazy. And then you have like there's this place in in go back, Go, Go, go Beckley tepe Ye Globe, like go go. I can't even say go the Tmahancock thing. Yeah, you've got Petra Jordan, Right, that's like I'm not even sure if it's

one of the wonders of the world. I'm pretty sure it is. But it's like this insane, like laser precise architecture with these immaculates structures built into a canyon. You've got like all kinds stone hinge yes, stone hinge You've got like freaking god, what was the other one. I was about to say, It was, oh, oh uh the easter Heads. Yeah, you've got You've got all these like architectural miracles that we literally cannot replicate today.

How are they doing that at different places in the world. So my thought process there is that these civilizations were more advanced spiritually. So we could say that we're more advanced, but I think they were more advanced spiritually, and the spirituality leads them to the science, whereas we're more advanced scientifically, and now we're coming around to finding where the science is leading we're moving bay. Yeah, that's true, and I think that the other way is quicker.

I think if you start with a spiritual advanced society that the science comes easy. I agree, dude, that's cool. I agree, that's really And you just saying that makes me wonder like maybe they were just truly significantly more spiritually advanced and they had ways of like entering the spirit world for this high level knowledge or think about it. We talk about it all the time that we are like it seems to be designed that we are disconnected from spirituality.

Yeah, we talk. You know, they didn't have TV, they didn't have the internet, they didn't have all these distractions, they didn't have these things lowering their vibrations. All they had was what existed around them.

And if you could tap into the hive mind and learn everything, yeah, and know which way everything needs to be facing oriented, what degrees of the earth it's on, you know, astral projecting yourself to view the degrees of earth, the longitude and latitude, and then communicating with other people across the world to do the same thing in the astral m. Yeah, it's just a thought. No, it's such a cool thought. It's such an interesting thought. I have a few more studies if we want to, like rapid

fire them real quick. Yeah, sure, because then I wanted to end on the brainwave stuff. Okay, yeah, real quick. A few really interesting studies that I found. There was a study done in twenty thirteen by BMC Psychologies, which all of the studies that I pulled are peer reviewed. I took extra time to make sure that these are all peer reviewed studies that are one hundred percent legit. This isn't bogus random stuff. This is legit.

They began in twenty thirteen conducting a series of experiments where they conclusively proved that individuals did, in fact raise the frequency of their bodies through positive states of mind, which in turn had positive effects on their bodies and minds, such as measurable reduce stress pains being quelled and significantly lowers of anxiety. Okay, simple study, your mind changes your body. We talked about it earlier. Way more interesting one that goes hand in hand with like the prayer thing

from earlier. This is wild. This was conducted by the National Library of Medicine. Two hundred and nineteen women who were considered to be infertile were treated with in vitro you know, in Seoul, South Korea. These women were randomized into distant prayer and control groups. The distant meaning the prayer was being conducted by prayer groups in the United States, Canada, and Australia, so this is across the planet. They're praying for these women in South Korea from

these remote locations. The patients and their providers were not informed about the intervention. They were informed that an experiment was being conducted, but not that they were being prayed over as a control because if they know they're being prayed over placebo, yes, exactly. They wanted to eliminate any possibility of any of that stuff. The investigators and even the statisticians didn't know the group allocations until

all the data had been collected. Thus, the study was randomized, triple blind, controlled, and perspective in design, they found that the women who had been prayed for had nearly twice as high a pregnancy rate as those who had not been prayed for. What Furthermore, the women who had been prayed for showed a twice higher implantation rate than those who had not been prayed for. Thus, this study showed that distant prayer facilitates implantation and pregnant. Dude,

it's like our mind really truly changes reality. Yeah, the universe is mental. Yeah, your your mind is your tool, it's your key to the universe. I'm gonna be up in here someding thoughts and prayers to who Alex who needs them? Drop them in the commons? Well, who need them? So stupid you need Hey, everybody out there, please pray for Alex. He really needs it. Not triple blind, but I'll take it. Yeah. So, in short, prayer works. Crazy. Doesn't matter

where your prayers coming from or who your prayer is to. It works. I'm not sure if you'll know about this yet, but a few months ago my dad actually did a thing like he did exactly what you just described, where he got involved with a group of women in Spain, the country Spain, like he was introduced to her. She had like a local radio station there and she in advance, coordinating with my dad, she planned this event where she was going to do a radio broadcast locally and over two hundred people

showed up to her location. And the idea was like it was quantum entanglement because you know, for the for the first episode of History Channel, we did a whole segment where I was out there recording for like four hours and we prove quantum tanglement. But they didn't air it because they had over one hundred hours of footage and they only focused on like the two or three segments

that we're in there, and they slashed everything else. They're like, we don't have enough time to make to set it up and and and you know, give the proof in it. But did they put it all online or something they were going to But I don't think they did. It's a lot of stuff. Yeah, I mean they had one hundred hours of footage. Yeah, forty two minutes, you know, but we actually filmed an entire thing and it worked. I mean we were able to prove like you know,

we were in Fayetteville. There was a group of people in Charlotte and we were all seeing orbs do the exact maneuvers the same thing. It was crazy. It just it didn't air, you know. But it's okay, there's there's future opportunity. Oh absolutely. But anyway, so Dad did that aside from the History Channel. He just he just does it with anybody like that speaks to him in a certain way. He's like, sure, whatever.

So he gets involved with this group of two hundred people in Spain and he's on the phone with him, and I heard the voice recordings from the lady who was running the broad the you know, the broadcast. She's like, oh my god, we're seeing fl lashes of light due to the whole crowd of two hundred people out there on the phone with my dad. They were seeing orbs flash flash, flash flash. It's it's it's it's non local man, Like there's there's there's no distance between our thoughts and in God and

the spirit and the phenomenon. Like it's it's like it's all an illusion, you know, like there is no distance. Yeah, there is no distance. No, there's really not. Yeah. I mean if you think about this realm as an illusion, the distance within it is also an illusion. That's pretty mind blowing. You're talking about people praying over women in Korea and they're getting pregnant twice, you know, a higher success rate like people from

America praying across the world and it's working like that's insane. I mean there were berths as a result of this experiment, multiple many, like of the women who were prayed for, like they actually had babies. That's insane, dude. Yeah, I got I got a couple more. Okay, here's a quick one that's kind of is a pretty funny one. There was this French researcher Renee Pia. I think that that was pretty good. Thanks.

The experiment evolved a rudimentary self propelled robot that normally wandered aimlessly and randomly around a room. It didn't have like a computer to decide where it should go or like no machine learning, none of that. Just a simple little robot that just kind of like walked around it. It's like quote unquote dumb.

It wasn't like a smart thing. And that she did an experiment where she filled a cage that put the robot in a cage, filled the cage with a bunch of newborn fresh born chicks that had yet to imprint on their mother, and they all imprinted on the robot. Oh my god. And they all huddled up around the robot and spent time around the robot, and as a result, the robot started, rather than wandering aimlessly, started only being

around the chicks. This is not a huterized smart machine learning robot. This is a simple little it's legs move I don't know how I feel about this. Yeah, that one's freaking me out. Why because it's awesome. Yeah, well, I think about think of all these little chicks. They are conscious, little living beings, and they want their desire is to be around their mama, which is the robot, and that car reacting, it's reacting.

Yeah, that's that's unbelievable. It's really incredible. It manifested dramatic change in the robots movements and uh, the intention of the chicks to be near the robot. It changed or gave the robot intention level to stay near them. All Right, here's the last one. Now, this one's very broad because this is a study, an ongoing study that's been going on for like over a decade, So it's I'm not going to go into excruciating detail,

but I'm going to tell you some of their findings. This is the University of California, Santa Barbara. They have this ongoing theory developing called the resonance theory of consciousness. It is peer reviewed and everything that they have released has been peer reviewed and corroborated, and it suggests that resonance another word for synchronized vibrations talked about that earlier, is at the heart of not only human consciousness,

but of physical reality as we know it. In summary, this paper provides foundational evidence, scientific evidence that suggests many things, including consciousness, evolves through energy flows achieved through extended resonance. These energy flows are real and measurable and have been proven to impact the mind and the psyche. Let me explain a little bit, because I read this whole thing. It took hours.

Their theory because a theory, an earlier, more rudimentary theory of vibration, was that what causes difference in vibrating between different masses or different objects is their size, right, That's what you would think. It's their size. A planet is huge, so it vibrates crazy and it has a crazy gravitational pull and YadA, YadA YadA. If you had me and a rock that weighed the same as me, they should technically vibrate the same. That's how science

would explain it. At least, they found that that's not true. Because of the ways that our nervous system are made to literally pass signals and chemicals and waves to the rest of our body, they create actual measurable energy flows that change our vibration, our frequency, our output of energy. So a rock that weighs the same amount as you technically is supposed to vibrate the same, and it does not. We didn't know why before. This study is

getting down to the exact reason why. And they think it's because of these energy pathways and these energy flows. Interesting. Those same energy flows are present in celestial bodies. Interesting. Yeah, that is very interesting. Did I say how they determine that? No? No, I mean, I mean it probably did, I just don't. I don't have it written down here. But it's the energy flows that change the vibration, the frequency, and the way that that body resonates with other things. And more so, what

they concluded. We talk a lot about the evolution of consciousness, right, We talk about the fact that everything has consciousness. But why is a five year old child's consciousness so much different than a rock that weighs the same amount of that thing. The theory that they are concluding is that by being around beings that vibrate through means of these energy lows, it causes neighboring consciousness to accelerate. Well, dude, it's like what what I called it? And

treatment? But what was it called? Earlier resonance? Oh? Oh, selelf generation? The resonance of self generation. Again, it's like organization. So yeah, you're you're you're around beings, are people of a higher vibration, and it's that entreme. It's like it's and it's subconscious, it's passive, it's it's like it's just our energy naturally. It's like there's this algorithm

that's causing everything to seek harmony. Yeah. One of the things that I always thought was like, Okay, blades of grass have consciousness, right, But like, is that he's just always going to be blades of grass? And like, how does that consciousness evolve? If our consciousness evolves, that that would imply that all consciousness is supposed to evolve. How does a blade

of grass sorry to cut you off. But if I'm understanding you correctly, Nick, if I carried a rock around in my pocket, the same rock for three years, should it vibrate at a higher level as another rock that I didn't carry around of the same weight, I would say measurably, the change would be like probably very slight because according to these theories, and make it six years, I think, I think we're talking about at make it

a crystal. Yeah yeah, yeah, But according to these theories and this information, these evolutions of these more rudimentary uh consciousnesses, that they take a much longer time to evolve because they are so rudimentary that they're going to take potentially hundreds, maybe thousands of years to evolve. It's a put on a very very small small scale. Yes exactly, Yeah, yes, yeah, I just want to make sure intestimally, I think, I think, yes,

you would raise the vibration of that rock. But it's like if you look at the esoteric material like theosophy or anthroposophy or resocrucionism, YadA, YadA, YadA, they always had that there's like there's the mineral kingdom, there's the plant kingdom, there's the animal kingdom, and then the peak of material life is there's the human kingdom. You know. It's like they're they're they're different. It's like different planes of reality, different planes of different levels.

Yeah, we all coexist, but like, yeah, we're we're on a different level than the rocks and the plants and the animals. It's like, I don't know, it makes sense to me, Like they they are evolving, but at a much slower, longer scale than we are. Because I tend to think sometimes that like the universe exists to be experienced. Yeah, you know what I mean, like by consciousness, Like it's not an accident, No, it's meaningful, and it exists so that we come here into

this realm from the spirit world and we come here to experience it. But I do think that there are those elements like the rock Kingdom, the you know, the mineral Kingdom, the plant Kingdom, the animal kingdom, where like they're experiencing it too, but in the same way, they're also like kind of part of the program in a way that's a little different from the way we are, you know what I mean, Like in the sense that

like we're coming here to evolve through the spiritual laws and to understand that because we are made in the image of God, right, we have that spark, But then I think like they do too, but they don't have the same level of advancement that we do to understand it and rapidly evolve like we

do. Exactly. What's interesting is when you parallel that against how long you get to experience it, where the rock doesn't have the same experience that I have, but the rock will be here for a far, far longer time than I will, potentially millions of years, which is to scale why it takes so much longer for that consciousness to evolve because their lifespan is so much longer. A rock it's going to be here for potentially millions of years.

Yeah, it's gonna evolve way slower. I'm gonna throw that thing into space and guess what, it'll still be existing in space. You won't space area.

So anyway, to anybody interested, that specific ongoing study is particularly fascinating to me because we here we got to pack all these concepts into like our hour and a half episodes and explain this stuff on a big scale, whereas this University of California, Santa Barbara, this study is trying to trying to do it all the way from the biggest scale to the very very smallest scale in an attempt to explain every single fundamental of science through the lens of consciousness.

No, I know something crazy. There's an official lady, there's an official PhD being produced right now by the Let me let me look up the name of this university real quick. It's very cool. I think it's called the California Institute of Humans. Hey, Alex, Uh, I think it could be cool to put your theory to test about the rocks. Uh. And all we got to do is find some expensive machine that can measure its

vibrational frequency. That's it, that's all we gotta do. Yeah. But I'm sitting here thinking, you know, we brought all these rocks back from the Moon, but did we take any rocks to the moon. Oh shit, that'd be an interesting experiment too. No. I mean, just like on principal, on principle, we got to stand on business like, we're gonna take your rocks, right right, yea, just in case the Moon is a halfway point for some other you know, then they can get some

Earth rocks without going all the way to Earth. It's like a we'll set up like a farmer's market on the moon. Yeah, we can trade. When the story when the pig jump over the moon, I do right back to pigs. They're smart, you know, they were on the they were in space if evolving into wild space bar yeah over there the moon boar bro. Yeah, they're big. It's the California Institute for Human Science. They were founded in nineteen ninety two. They are a regionally accredited non profit mind,

Body, Spirit university. But they have like PhDs. They're developing a real PhD program on consciousness and the paranormal and things like that. Awesome, and they're they're like involving my dad with the official program. Oh they're putting him on the official advisory board. Oh that is sick. So like it's just crazy, but I thought y'a would like that. So the last thing I wanted to bring into uh the equation here was the brainwave states, because

it's it's just simple frequency conversation. But in psychology, there are five known brainwave states and it starts from lowest to highest. Lowest being delta, which is like deep sleep, like r em sleep, you're not dreaming. It is the slowest brainwave and then you have data, which is like ninety nine percent of humans only ever experienced data when they're dreaming at night, asleep or moments before you fall asleep and moments after you wake up. Your brain can

still be in that THETA very briefly, momentarily or otherwise. The first seven to eight years of the human life, our brains are constantly in that state, which makes sense. It's why kids are so teachable. They absorb information, they're constantly in that brainwave state, and everything is so magical. It also makes sense. I'm spider Man. You know, little kids according to the like the phenomenon, like you know, your dad says all the time,

like little kids are magnets. And yeah, you know Leah and Jonah out there like summoning orbs like without even trying, right, you know, they're little, they're little magnets. But you know how little kids like I believed I could do a kamehameha, you know, believe it. Your your imagination is so powerful and it's like you're in a different brainwave state until about eight Otherwise that experience, I mean that uh, that brainwave frequency is owned

only ever outside of those conditions. It's only experienced in deep levels of meditation. Then the next brain wave state is we got delta theta alpha, which is like you're relaxed, but you're awake. You know, it's just a very relaxed state like meditation or just you know, maybe you'll get the massage or something that's really calming. Then you have beta, which is like I'm at work, I'm on the computer, I'm alert, I'm driving things where

your brain is alert. And then you have let's see, I got to say in order this all my brain works, delta theta, alpha, beta, gamma. Gamma's that final wave state where it's very high brain wave frequency

and it's like extremely alert, extremely focused. Right. Okay, So again for those out there who might not have seen the episode, this this blew my mind because when Dad was in that state where he was able to demonstrate you know, the orbs being there and the communication and all that they did, all that with the brainwave study, it revealed that his brain was completely in theta and that's particularly fascinating because the neuroscientist there was like, this is

a state it's only ever observed. And like zen monks, like master meditators, masters zen monks who have devoted their entire life to zen meditation. They achieve Theta brainwave states. And I just started thinking about it more and more and like doing more research on it, and I did. I was able to find that like that is true. They have observed monks, it's real studies. They're in Theta wave state when they're in deep levels of meditation.

And then, you know, the more you research about theta it's like, you know, we're asleep at night and our body's repairing, it's healing, right, That's why it's important to get good sleep. Your body's repairing while you're asleep or whatever while you're in that brainwave state. And I'm like, huh. And there's all this research out there about how the theta brainwave state enters this regenerative cycle where the body is like it's healing, you know.

And then through my individual involvement with the Monroe's, the two and the CIA and all these other organizations, Project Stargate, the people who developed the program for remote viewing and astral projection and all that, they're very big into binaural beats, which is essentially you're listening to these theta wave frequencies and putting your brain in this state of consciousness where these these these so to speak, magical

feats are possible. So for the past maybe since August, I think, like since the episode came out and I was really like, oh my god, that's crazy. You know, I've been listening to theta wave frequencies every day literally, you know, like, been going to the gym, been meditating every day, been been practicing drums more. I'm finding like the more I listen to theta, the more my wife tells me, like, You're

glowing, you know, like I do things. I just feel like I'm able to push through certain boundaries that I may have had in my mind. And the only thing different is I started listening to data waves every day, and I don't know, like I think that's something out there that people should explore. We have all this talk about frequency and vibration, and it's like, well, cool, well we have all this fringe data that's showing that,

like the magical brainwave status data. Well why wouldn't you put some headphones in? And what did you call it? Self organization? Yeah? Yeah, residents of self organs the same concept your brain. I forgot to even say that your brain just from listening to these tones that naturally entrains to the frequencies. It's like, why why wouldn't you do that? You know, try it out. But yeah, like we have these measurable states of brain

waves. We know that they are in fact vibrating at different frequencies, and those different frequencies have different effects on our mind and body. And we also know, because we've covered it in this episode, that entrainment is real, Like vibrations, frequencies will sync up to one another when exposed, you know, over time, and so naturally you can conclude from all of that you can put your brain in a different state, a different vibrational state, by

trying to make it sync up and resonate with theta frequencies. But you don't even have to try. You just got to hear it. You just do it for an extended period of time. You just turn it on. Dude, I have these headphones and not everybody has to go, you know, drop bank on like these expensive headphones. But I'm lucky because through my job as an insurance agent, I was able to write it off. And you know, it's like making a lot of calls. So I got a really

nice pair of headphones. You don't need a nice pair of headphones. But I am lucky in the sense that mine have the transparency mode where I can just turn the frequency on at kind of a low volume and go about my day. I'm doing dishes, I'm going to the gym, whatever, I can play video games, turn the volume up on the TV and still hear

the frequency. Whatever I'm doing, I can listen. And I'm just finding like the more I sit in that state, the more naturally I'm just able to do some of the things that I would have to previously think really hard about, like wanting to do you know what I mean. It's like, I don't know, it's like training the brain. It's like also, I'm just wondering if the more we expose ourselves to that state, does it train our brain to get there more rapidly and stay there for a longer periods of

time. That's what I'm interested in, is like the more I'm there, do I have more benefits? You know what I mean? Can I stay in that brain wave state longer? I don't know, but I know my wife never she was dating me two years, never had her first paranormal experience until she started listening to the data waves. And I've had messages from other people listening to the show after we've recommended them multiple times that they've said,

I took your recommendation. I went and started listening. Holy crap, now I'm seeing orbs. So many things are happening. So like I'm thinking, like we can we can use this knowledge to better ourselves. Oh yeah, I mean that's the goal. That's, you know, enrich your own life, change your life, completely transform everything around you. Like yeah, I

mean I've done it, and it's it has profound effects. It's and there are different theta waves for different like things that you're trying to achieve manifestations. It's a band of frequencies on different different ranges. And every time that I've used you know, those those frequencies or those you know, those tapes or whatever for specific things like it, it achieves what I was trying to do. Try it out when you're meditating, when you're praying, whatever, studying,

it doesn't matter. Try it with the UH with the theta wave frequencies, pray, try it out, meditate, whatever. But that's all I got. I'm happy. That's all I got. Too. We gave y'all a long episode today. We appreciate y'all tuning in with us this episode two of Spirit Science. This was awesome. Nick, What do you do if you want to support the show, you go to bledsosaid so dot com or Patreon dot com slash Bledsoe said, So if you go over there, you

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yeah, let's just keep it real light this time. Like I'm just feeling good. Let's keep it light and then we get down in the trenches. You're yeah, I mean whatever is going to come out is going to come out. Whatever needs to come out, Yeah, gonna come out. So it's like kind of cool and candid in that way, like Alex the last thing that really I have on my mind. And then I'm just so thrilled I can kiss y'all. I would like you to direct the camera attention to

you. Okay, done. Love that shirt, boy, love that shirt. It's pretty awesome. Yeah, it's your iconic Alex podcast shirt and you will be wearing that for the rest of eternity on this show. Yeah, the rest of my life. Yeah, well no, no, no eternity. Yeah, yeah, a little longer than your life, but well maybe I'll give it to the rock. Yeah. Like when our descendants, we're gonna pass Wayne Johnson very I mean, if he wants one hit me up,

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