Weird thing, weird, weird, weird. Welcome to a very special episode. This is the Well technically this is the first time, right that we've invited people on the show that are like listeners of the show. But like, obviously we had an incredible opportunity and this just fell right into our laps and yeah, so I'm just gonna get right into it. So we have
Kyle and Ryan with us today. I don't know if we've talked much about this on the main show lately because of our recording schedule, but on the on the Patreon show Full Disclosure, we've gone into a lot more detail tell about this and you know what went down. But essentially, my dad and I have been very passionate about getting more into skywatching with people and kind of going out to neutral public spaces and having a group setting skywatches and trying to
build up to bigger crowds. After something that happened recently, Basically, Alex and my dad went to a festival in North Carolina and they had a kind of like a it was like a what's the word, Alex, It was like sprung on you. It was like an unplanned SkyWatch in front of about seventy people and they all saw orbs, and Dad and I got to thinking about it and talking and talking and Alex too, you know, and we were just like, yeah, we got to really do something with this.
You know. One thing led to another. We planned a private SkyWatch here in Wilmington, North Carolina, on the beach. It was kind of like our little prototype first public SkyWatch. There was eleven of us in total. Kyle and Ryan were with us that night, and what happened that the night
was incredible. It was very shocking to me because the level of intensity of the orb experiences that we all witnessed together were far beyond what I ever expected the phenomenon would be willing to reveal to people coming out to meet us at a public space. I mean it was. It was some pretty spectacular light displays that night. So without further ado, I wanted to bring on Kyle and Ryan to help me tell that story. So I guess we'll go around
Kyle if you want to. Yeah, yeah, it was an amazing night. You know, you invited us out there. I think it was eleven of us total, and the first sky watch I've ever been. So it was the first public SkyWatch but you've seen something before that. I did come in with a handful of experiences on my own, but what I saw that night was unbelievable. It was something, you know, I'd say it was
biblical. It was just, you know, so many orbs everywhere. But I really got caught up in the moment because I'm you know, I'm watching Chris. You know, I wanted to see, you know, how he breaks his process for for this, so you know, I'm watching him and you know, seeing him go into like a prayer full meditative state. It's it was. It was very surreal to watch. And of course as we
get into it, he you know, orbs start appearing. They're everywhere, and you know, I'm sitting right next to him, and I'm looking up and and and showing where he's pointing, and he would say, you know, there's gonna be orb right there. And then right as he says right there, uh, and Orbit peers out of the out of the out of
blue like in the middle of the sky. And then he says, oh, there's another one next to it, and he points to it, and then another one appears immediately, and then you know, for almost two hours, this goes on just orbs, you know, coming from different directions, brighting, you know, getting brighter when they pass each other. We saw one that was down on the horizon over the ocean. It was a different
color, it was orange. You know. It was really incredible because when Chris would give his attention to any specific orb, it would brighten up. And then when he moved his attention away or start talking to aut something else, it would go dim and then he'd go back to it and it would get bright again. So it was just this really incredible connection. Uh, there was just so much activity for two hours and at least yeah, yeah,
it was. It was a long time, and it's kind of reality building because you know, my experience is when I go in the backyard, maybe the sky watch on my own, you know, I look in the sky. You know, you see stars, and you see airplanes and maybe any if you're lucky, maybe you'll see an orb, and your your rational brain kind of wants to go to that spot where you know, it says, okay, well maybe that was an airplane, maybe that was a star
or something. Well this was the exact opposite. You know, I'm watching orbs for two hours and the reality is orbs. And then now I'm starting to after two hours, I'm looking at airplanes and is that an orb? Or is that you know? And you know, I had really had to bring myself back to reality say, oh, that's yeah, that's an airplane. That's an airplane, not an orbit. Yeah. So that was you
know, that my experience, of course, the most fantastic thing. Well, I mean, it was all fantastic, but you know, Chris had
told us that the phenomenon always says good night or goodbye. Yeah, and you know, we were you know, it's the end of the night, it's the end of the sky watch, and we're all getting ready to take a take a photo together, and we're all feeling good, we're all happy, and they take the final photo and immediately as they take the photo, a huge, you know, blue white orb shoots down very close, vertically straight down into the ocean. It doesn't go into the ocean, but it
disappears at the ocean level. So you know, it was the most spectacular thing I ever saw. I mean, how do you how'd you feel about it? Yeah, I mean you pretty much said everything. But I, on the other hand, had never had an experience like that before. So coming into this being a first timer, as you mentioned, you know a lot of times when you're sitting at home sky watching by yourself, you're like, is that an airplane? I'm not sure. There was no doubt this
night. I mean they were doing zigzags, they were dropping straight down, like you said, there was an orange one right above the ocean. So there's just no doubt in my mind about what it was. And getting to witness the phenomenon for the first time with you guys and share that experience with you guys was just spectacular. And I mean they really put on a show. Like I said, they were doing zigzags. They were. We saw several that crossed over each other. They would brighten up, Yeah, they
would brighten up, they would go dim. I mean really just a spectacular display and no argument about what it is at all. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So you might recall this, Kyle, because remember I don't even remember our meat time. It was like I think we said like between seven and seven thirty, will be there, you know, and just kind
of meet us around that time. We picked a random public access peer on the beach, you know, because Dad and I I've lived here by the beach for I think six years now, and Dad still lives in Fable, two hours away, and we were talking about it, where like we want to pick a place that's public but also isolated so that actually see orbs.
And I've just found over the last year six years of living here that every time my wife and I go out to the beach, or if Nick and his wife come with us, we've been out there a few times and see I'm pointing at Nick. He's behind the camera today, but we've been out there a few times skywatching, Alex and I don't know if we skywatched on the beach, but we sky watched out on the water by your place,
and I find that I see a lot of orbs out there. So I was like, Dad, well, why don't we do it on the beach. You know, we picked this public access meet us there at like seven, seven thirty whatever. So you might recall that when we all finally meet, Ryan is running a little late because he had you had something going on. I don't recall, but it was thirty minutes between when we were all
there and you were the last person to show up. So we all get out there, we sit on the beach, together obviously, you know, minus Ryan. Now I want you to recall if you remember me saying across the group at this point, there's ten of us and I'm like, Dad, I just you know, I'm texting Ryan. I'm like, Dad, he's run a little bit behind. I just want to let you know, like, I'm not serious until he shows up. I'm not really feeling like
connected right now. I'm not putting my thoughts up there. I'm waiting for my friend to show up. Then it's like, let's go. And he was like okay, and you know, we're all talking and we didn't see anything. It was the moment that Ryan walked up and sat down when we saw the first door. Yeah, so right off the bat we were like, whoa, that's weird. You know, they were reacting to what we
were saying. And it was like, you honestly didn't even really get the chance to like introduce yourself to people because from the moment you sat down, right, it was just boom boom, boom boom. For hours. As soon as I got there, the activity started and like you said, you know, you kind of mentioned that you weren't really putting your thought into it. Well, once I got there. There wasn't a whole lot of chit chat going on. Everybody was just focused and setting their intention up on the
sky and they really responded to that. Yeah, it was wild. It was so I want to get into what was like going throughout and obviously I want to hear from both of you, but like what was going through your head when you were seeing all these orbs appear, and how they were reacting to what was being said, and like, like how how was that internally?
Yeah, it was so much to process because you know, you're you're watching this incredible display before you you're going through your own emotions and feelings, and you're paying attention to what Chris is saying because he's saying very profound things, and you know, as he's going through his process and and you know, you get a lot of emotions that are coming up, and you're just trying to take it all in and and and try to forget what you know,
what does this mean? What does it mean to me? You know what's going on here? Yeah? How about you? I know we talked about this on full disclosure, but you know, for yeah, I mean
it was pretty much the same thing. I mean, like I said, I had never experienced it before, so really I was kind of in all just mind blown trying to process the whole thing, and I was also mentally taking notes of just what you were doing, what your dad was doing, uh, and trying to take away what I could learn from you guys to be able to experience it again, because I'm I mean, there really is kind of a process to it. It's a lot of intention and having your
heart in the right place. But I mean, really it was just kind of a confirmation of what I've been believing for a while and finally got to see it right. So keep in mind, it's like we've been for many years combined, you know, me and my whole family for many years combined, we've been going out there trying to open people up to this, explain this to people. And you know, before the History Channel show, it was kind of like this this era of like trying to vindicate ourselves and like,
no, you got to believe us. But now it's more so like that's past, and it's like really just trying to help people develop the connection. You know, it's like the proof is there. It's like, yeah, you know, but anyway, I want you to be mindful of the fact that it's very hard coming from being in the position of this happening all the time and trying to perfectly convey every little detail. So like, if you don't mind, Like, what were some of the things you noticed that
we were saying or doing that the phenomenon was responding to. Sure, you know, Yeah, the most obvious one was the word Holy Spirit. Anytime Chris would say Holy Spirit, I mean, they would get exceptionally bright and maybe multiple ones across the sky in coordination with each other. That was the most you know, powerful display that I saw, you know, but as he talked to specific and specific directions, the orbs would appear and they would
they would get bright brighter when they crossed. You know, there was different types of displays. You know, there was zig zagging, swimmer types, streakers, which is, you know, flew fast across the sky like a shooting stock, a shooting star. Yeah. I think at one point Chris said, asked, if you know that we could have like a lower display, like you know, if something would come down lower and almost immediately something shoots across you know, like it's like a shooting star, but it's twenty
feet over our head, which is what he asked for. Yeah, so that's the little things that I noticed. How about you? To me, a big thing was gratitude. Was every time they put on a display, your dad would thank them, yes, and also just asking for them to put on a show for us. You know. I actually, like I said, was taking notes. And I went home and about a week later, had an experience in my own for the first time, just by myself, and I tried to repeat the process of what I had seen your dad
do. I was outside and I was looking up at the sky and I said, Holy Spirit, if it's your will, will you please show yourself to me? And I just set my intention up there, and sure enough, I have an orb show up and it starts getting brighter and dimming back out and getting brighter. And really just being grateful, having your heart in the right place, having the intention, and just focusing really were the biggest things to me. Wow, that's powerful. That's really cool man. Yeah.
I mean I found out right away that you know, you have the senac that you're out there together and you want to enjoy each other's company and you know, uh talk. But you know, when everyone focused and everyone had their intention in the right way and and just like what Ryan just said, that's when you saw the most activity. And you know what, I forgot to even mention this part, but do you remember when we first got there, the entire sky was filled with clouds and for a while we were
all like, you know, like what can we do about this? And my dad, because he's friends with Colonel John Alexander of you know, Project Stargate and you know, like the movie The Men, Who'steric Goats and whatnot, they have this concept called cloud busting, where you know, you project your intentions out to the clouds, and it's like that's the kind of thing,
like it's a cool concept. I believe it works, but you can't really there's no meter in your brain that's like, oh it's working, you know, like it's intuitive, you know, but I gotta say, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong here. Yeah, it definitely worked. Go ahead, yeah, go ahead. Now that was all I was going to say, is I mean it worked? Like Ryan said, you know, it was really cloudy and overcast when we first got out there, and it cleared right on up and by the end of the night Man, there
wasn't a cloud in sight. Yeah, yeah, I watched. That was the first thing Chris did. I think when he got out there, as he looked at this on the clouds everybody, he asked, you know that they clear up. I mean they were incredibly dense. I mean that you could not see through anywhere, and it was from horizon to horizon basically, And sure enough, I mean they started to break up immediately, and then within an hour or maybe hour and a half, they were completely gone.
And I was I was amazed. I was like, wow, it did not look like it was going to clear up initially, so I have to believe that that had some effect. Yeah, I mean it seems that way right. It's like, again, there's no physical metric here. But it's like you know, the last few times that Dad and I in any setting, whether it's with you guys, or it's just me and him, or I think this episode may be out by now, But we just recorded with her friend Molly, who we tell the story how she came out. We
did it with them too. It's like focus on the cloud busting, and we go from a sky that's fully clouded to no clouds in orders, just bang bang bang bang. But yeah, it was crazy. It does seem there's something to that, you know, projecting your intentions up to the sky beyond just the orbs. Yes, you know, yeah, but are you comfortable talking about your first ORB experience? Sure? Yeah, I can definitely talk about that. Uh. My first orber experience was approximately two to three
years ago. I had never seen anything before that, and it came on the tale of encountering your family's story. And I was with was basically a stranger as a family member that I did know very well. And we were sitting on a at on a in a beach house and one evening and We're just talking and chatting and I was kind of having a realization that you know what UFOs are, that there's more to it than you know, your your
your normal narrative, you here. And so I was talking to this other person and as we get into the conversation, I was telling her about Chris and I was telling her, uh, you know, how my my thoughts had changed, and I looked down or she she actually brought up to me. She's like, oh my god, I got you chills on my arm. You know, I'm I'm your You're really you know, making me amazed. At what you're saying, and at that moment we're you know, we're
talking a little bit more. All of a sudden, an orb appears like right, you know, above the sand dune, and it was for about three seconds, and it was you know, both of us saw it, and you know, you didn't know what the thing. I didn't know what to think. And I was actually grateful that I had someone there to watch it with me, because I think if I had been by myself, I
would have tried to discount. And I still tried to discount. It's a gift to you because it's confirmation that you shared it with another person who's like, no, I saw this, it's real. Yeah. So she saw it and I saw it, and it was undeniable, and I knew what I saw. But your brain, if you've you know, you don't want to believe it. I mean, you want to say, well, how can I explain this way? But I couldn't. There's no way to explain
it away. So and then that's when the realization happened in. As soon as that happened, there you know, had follow on experiences, you know, after that, I definitely feel like it was meant to be that we were all supposed to have met the way we did, I mean the way I met you guys. Yeah, I met you through the Discord naturally. And I should say Alex has like plugged the discord plugging. I'm just being candid about it. But we do. We do have a Patreon. Let's
so said, so dot calm forward slash Patreon. I would be remiss if I didn't, you know, say drop that in there. And we have this amazing discord community and and they're both in it. But it's it's kind of the reverse, like I met you through the discord, but then I met you and you got into the discord, right, So like met Kyle through the discord. Actually, I think you hit up Alex first, that's
right. Yeah, And and Alex was coming to me, He's like, there's this guy Kyle, super nice guy, and you know he lives forty five minutes away. Let's go to lunch. And we went to lunch. That was about a year ago, right, yeah, has been it's been quite a while. Yeah, And we went to lunch just super good vibe. I mean me and Alex were both like, man, I what a nice guy, you know, Like we definitely got to do that again. I'm unfortunately we just had our second lunch today. But you know, things
get busy and you know, everything goes to the wayside. But in the back of our head, we're always like, man, Kyle is a really cool guy, Like, got to hang out again. Got Alex and I are always talking like sometime we got to do that again, you know. And then the way we met Ryan was really weird because Nick and I were going to like basically like a vape shop down the street, just like a regular run of the mill strip mall kind of place, and Ryan is walking
down the street and Nick and I just hear are you guys? Ryan? And Nick? And we're like yes, you know, and it's like the expectation in that moment. You don't just get approached on the street. It's like are we being jumped, are we being you know? Are we being arrested? Like I don't know, It's just like the things that go through head. And then we turn it's all Ryan. He's like from bless you
said, so you guys are Ryan? And we hit it off and like, I just the thing I remember the most from that encounter was I've always had this philosophy like when you meet people who you know, you always hear like, don't meet your heroes, right as you just always hear it, like you meet somebody online or whoever that you've been interested in their material,
and it's like, don't meet your heroes. So I've always had the opposite philosophy, like, whenever you have the the amazing chance to meet somebody who's been aware of you through you know, your story on TV or online or whatever, make it as memorable and compassionate as possible. So I was just
like, give me a hug, dude, let's get a picture. And I just remember hugging you and we were both shaking from from the energy of like how electric it was having met just by complete coincidence, and it was I was like, dude, I know I was supposed to meet this guy. I know I was supposed to meet Kyle. Fast forward a little bit. So Dad's like, yeah, we'll do it in Wilmington. We'll do
the SkyWatch. I got three or four people, and I was like, all right, I got three or four people invited Kyle Ryan, my third couldn't show. And it's I don't know, man, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like that night was some sort of convergence point and all of us having absolutely, for some reason, we were
supposed to be there experiencing that together. Yeah. And I felt like I've been experiencing that for you know, a couple of years, like all these strained synchronicities that are lying up. And I know you had something, you had a dream right about. Yeah. So actually, whenever I met Ryan, I had dreamt a couple of weeks beforehand that I was going to run into you because i'd been f when the podcast since it came out. I knew that you were here local, and I had a dream that I was
just gonna run into you. And sure enough, one day, I'm at work walking over to Jersey Mikes to grab a sandwich on my lunch break, and there you are. And I mean, you called it a coincidence, but man, I believe that there's no such thing as a coincidence. I think it's all led up to this moment. Yeah, And I felt like
I had the same type of thing. Maybe not exactly like that, but I've had, you know, kind of precognitive things or just crazy synchronicities, and and and of course now I'm here, you know, it's yeah, why yeah, I hope you don't mind if I like, go ahead air this out, but I gotta I got a kick out of when I called you that night and asked you to come on the show man. It was it just tickled me, but like in the best way, because I was like, you know, Kyle, I I'd love to have you on the
show. Your response, dude, it made me. It made me just kind of smile a little bit. You were like, oh my gosh, man, like this is all happening so fast. And I was like, so is that a yes? You know, like yeah, I mean just when you invited me out to the SkyWatch, I mean, it just blew me away because you know, I've been looking for opportunity and obviously just the opportunity to go skywitch with Chris is incredible. And I was just really grateful
to have been offered to come out. I mean, you know, how often does that come along for people to have an experience like that. So and and you know, and I'm and there wasn't a lot of details at the time when you told me, and right, and so I went out there. I was like, oh, maybe there's gonna be fifty or one hundred people here or something like that, and there was just, you know, it was six of us, and I felt, you know, it
was very personal. Of course, when we got there, you immediately told me, hey, go sit right next to Dad, which I appreciate that, you know, heads up, you know, And if I may, Ryan and Kyle were both being really I guess, like I don't know how to say, you were being very polite. I could sense that both of you were hesitant about like, first of all, you showed up late and we'd all been chatting, and then it was like orbs start. She didn't
really get a chance to introduce yourself, even and it was dark. Kyle had been there for a little bit. But I got the sense both of you were being like polite about like crowding him out or or you know, sitting too close to him or whatever. But see me, I'm like all these other people, you know, wonderful people, nice people, but I was like, I don't know them. Dad invited them. I invited these guys. I'm like, I'm trying to I'm trying to guide them through like
the best possible experience. And we had a we had a circle on the in you know, on the beach in the dark too. So I'm like, you're going to sit over here. I'm like, no, no, no, sit right there next to my dad. You pull up a chair, you put it somewhere else. I'm like, no, no, no, sit right there. I made I plucked you both and I made sure you sat right there so you could hear everything that advice. Yeah, because I'm glad I tell you because you're on the beach so it's really hard to
hear. And you know, I'm sitting right you know, next connecting with your dad, and so I'm seeing exactly where he's pointing, and I'm hearing
everything he's saying. And again a really close look at you know, this process that he goes through, and and uh, it's just fantastic and just blew me away my original thoughts when I when I saw him start this process of you know, this prayer, full type meditative, you know, asking you know, my I was like, man, this is really intense and authentic, and you know it's it's a special type of prayer that I've never heard, type that I've never heard before. It just stood out to me
as being you know, incredibly special. Yeah. Yeah, and I did call to your attention that night too. I was like, you know, this is this is the stuff the History Channel cut out. Yeah, you know, it's like for whatever reason, I mean, they have their things that they have to hit and their editing and you know, how they want to present it. But like everything you saw that night is exactly the same as as you know, the process of getting into it and then you know,
his brain waves and all that. They only showed a few minutes of that, but they had one hundred hours of footage, you know, and there was a lot of prayer, a lot of exactly what you saw was exactly what it was that had those orbits appearing, and it was all cut out. So like it was really cool that you guys got to see the
process. You know, So like what what can you recall? I know you kind of hinted at it, but like, well, the strange thing is, I you know, he talked, He's talking most of the time throughout the two hours, but I really can't recall a specific thing that he said. But it was just all very profound and he's you know, and you saw a little bit a little bit of that on beyond skim walker as far as you know how he does some of that, but you don't see
it super up close. And that's what I got to see. You know, It's hard to characterize because it's it just was something that it was completely new and unique to me. How did you feel about did you get it close enough for you of yeah? Absolutely so to me, it was I had a similar experience. You know, I don't specifically recall a lot of
what he said. I just remember tidbits here and there. But what stood out to me most of what he was saying was whenever he would utter the words Holy Spirit or he even mentioned ruoc once, you know, they would
respond to it. And so I was really just trying to pay as close attention as I could to the process, because that's one thing, like you said, you don't see that on a lot of the stuff that they put out about it, and so I'm really just trying to take away, like what is it that he does to be able to produce these results, because that was one of the things I was most interested in. I went into it never having an experience in my own I wanted to know what I could
take back home to be able to see it again and it worked. It did. Yeah, that's that's kind of like my whole point of all this. You know, it's like, I never want to be the guy that gate keeps knowledge. You have a lot of people out there in this UFO subject and they're just pure gatekeepers. Man. First of all, they're gatekeeping fake information. You know, it just is what it is, you know, not calling out any names, but the majority of UFO information out there
just is fake. It's just the reality, you know, and it's gatekeeping. I have this document by this guy that's like, you know, it's going to be the smoking gun man, it's going to be the alien bodies and you know, categorizing the freaking eggs and their corpses that you know, you know, they have all this like role play about it. And then you have people like, well, I don't want to call anybody out by
name, but you can infer. You have people who are charging five thousand dollars a pop to come out and shine lasers at the sky and do some specific the Alex is laughing, I'm dead serious, you know, charging five thousand dollars to shoot lasers at the sky and do some CE five meditation protocol, and you know, here we are fighting for our lives, fighting for a reputation for the last seventeen years. And you guys saw the process. Cut in if I'm making this up, Cut in if I'm lying. The
process is this. We're sitting there and he goes, Okay, everybody, let's cut the football chit chat. You know, that's what he likes to say. What he means is like, cut all the you know, the surrounding chatter, and he directs all of our attention to everybody. We're gonna put our minds together and we're going to focus on one spot. Imagine the lady, he says. You know, we can only imagine God. You can think about it. This is what he's saying to the crowd. You
know, we can only imagine God. But I imagine her as a woman. That's how she appeared to me. You can imagine her however you want. It doesn't really matter whatever you want to think of her in your head. You know, we can only imagine God, but imagine God. Focus your thoughts on the lady. Focus your thoughts on the beings, the beings of light. And uh, right, when he says, now, I'm
going to do this. I'm going to ask that if the Holy Spirit ooh, the orbit peers would share her presence and then so on and so forth, And that's literally it. There's no fancy. You know, you like technology, lasers and you know, there's none of that. Yeah, there's no smoke of mirrors, there's no tricks, there's no protocol. It's just
having uh. Like, imagine if you could take your perspective for just a moment and you can do this, just just think out of the box, Like, Okay, maybe I believe in God, maybe I believe in something out there, But what if you didn't believe it? What if you knew it? What if you knew with one hundred percent certainty that when you're projecting your thoughts to the sky to some deity or entity, what if you knew
without a doubt that it actually was there responding. You know, you would you would put out a little bit of a vibe than just your typical you know, growing up Christian or Muslim or Jewish or whatever faith you come from. You know, not knocking any of them, but you know it's like you go to temple, you go to church, you read your scripture, you believe in God, don't even imagine it, never seen it, don't know anything about it. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about
like a knowing, right yep, And that's that's what it is. It's just knowing that when he projects that up there, boom the flash comes back. Yeah, the connection there was undeniable. I mean you could not. I'm sending it right here in every little nuance in his voice as far as what he's saying, and it's just responding back. And you know, I felt like that's a missing piece that doesn't get connected as that. You know, it's it's related to you, it's your related to you, it's the
connection. The connection. Yeah, yeah, knowing that it's there, and it was pretty crazy. There was one time actually, Okay, I've been talking about this quite a bit on full disclosure recently, but one thing that's been blowing my mind is like I I never this is going to probably sound shocking to people, but I never thought that I had a connection with these
beings. I just always thought that, like I was seeing them, like you know, it's like, it's funny because I explain this how it's never an accident when you see them, but I guess it was a self doubt thing, like I always imagine this as like happening to my dad and we're in the fallout of it, you know what I mean. I never really thought like I have that connection or you know, this sibling or this sibling, if that makes sense. But lately, with the way things have been
going, it's been kind of hard for me to deny. There's been a few incidents is where I'll say something and then something will flash and Dad's like, you see, I've been telling you like it's connected to you, and I'm like, yeah, but it's hard to process that some deity or entity beyond the veil is like focused on you, you know what I mean. Yeah, And likewise, I was never somebody who had thought I never thought
I would ever see this. I never thought it was possible. And I mean, I'm forty four years old and this happened a couple of years ago where I had my first you know, experience, and it was kind of the same kind of thing, like is this really happen? This is happening
to me? Like how yah know? And it really blew me away, And well, have you guys like considered the implication yet that those were actual entities who are like, they've got your number, you know what I mean, they're aware of you, they know you better than you know you. Have you like considered that part yet, Yeah, I mean that's it's a difficult thing to conceptualize, but that's one of the things that has really kind
of drawn me to it. You know. I have always just kind of sought out the truth, and I knew that there was something out there. I knew that there was more to it, but I really just wanted to know exactly what it was and just come into that realization that they're connected to all of us. I mean you mentioned not feeling necessarily that they were connected to you. I saw that night an example of their connection to you.
It was kind of funny to me. But towards the end of the night, Ryan was like, hey watch this, and he started kind of playing a hype man and he was trying to get the entities excited and he'd start cheering like whoo, get bright yeah, and they responded to it. Yeah. They would get really bright whenever you would do that, and then when
you would stop, they'd start to fade back out. So I think one of the coolest things to me is just to know that everybody has that connection, anybody is capable of producing these results and being able to go back home and to see it on my own, you know, out in the yard by myself. It's just confirmation of that anybody can do it. It doesn't take a special person. It just takes a humble heart exactly. Yeah,
and a humble heart of course. That's that's the biggest part of it, really, you know, thanking them for their appearances, that's the most important part, you know. But like Nick and Alex too, like they're getting a connection that's undeniable. Like there's been a few times that Nick's come over
that we'll be sitting on the back porch and he's spot in orbs. I'm like, not even looking, He's dude, look look, look, you know that's that's at least twice now that that's happened recently, where he's pointing him out. I'm like, oh, shoot, you know, he's like spotting him out now. And Alex, he's going home, he's walking his
dog and he's texting me frequently sawn or sawn or I'm seeing him. You recently saw him with your fiance for the first time, right, and like this connection is it's blossoming into like the people around me are starting to develop this connection like that. I was gonna tell that story, which is why I brought up the thing about me doubting having a connection. Is like for many years I thought of this as happening to my dad, But now I
see that that's only the beginning. But you know where this is progressing with the experiences that we've been having lately, it's blossoming to where it's like so many more people are developing this inner knowing, this connection with these beings and like, you know, you're seeing him on your own now. If you simply asked, you know, I'm sure you could. Like I encourage you to try, you know, and I have. I have had that happen
not that long ago. I was outside with my dad and just talk, having a conversations in the evening, and I see one kind of go behind him. He's just like it brightens up and then it and it goes away. So yeah, and it seems to be increasing. But but definitely this sky watch with your dad was something on a whole nother level. It's a whole nother level of knowing and confirmation, you know, as far as it's like wow and and and you know, I understand they can't get a lot
closer. And I'm sure that's a whole nother level of of knowing, you know. I mean, I probably everyone, you know, most of the people watching this, you know, have our believers. They are probably and but but definitely when you see him, it's it's it does something to you that you know, it's not belief anymore. It's knowing. Like I can say that word over and over and someone's like yeah, cool, like but no, no, but like I'm telling you, like that's the strongest word
that I can convey. That is like it is a knowing. Watch the movie The Knowing when Nicholas Cage. Amazing movie, and it's like it's really good with how it like portrays the phenomenon as being like kind of like UFOs
but they're also Angels of Light. Fantastic movie. It does have a lot of doom and gloom into the world type stuff, but like you know, it's a spooky movie, so like parse that stuff out of it and look at all the descriptions of the phenomenon they're leaving, you know, little crystals and all this stuff, but the knowing, you know, it's like you walk away that night and you're like, you know, I can't really deny anymore, Yeah, that there's something up there. I had another piece.
After I left, I felt like I was completely vibrating, Like really, I mean I could feel it in my bones. Did you have any anything of that after you left? Yeah? I mentioned it on Full Disclosure. You know, even up to the point that we recorded the episode of Full Disclosure, I just felt filled with the spiritual energy. And I mean, while we were witnessing it happened, I was just kind of overcome with emotion. You know. At one point I almost felt like I was on the
verge tears. And it wasn't in a sad way. It wasn't any sort of bad emotions, but you know, it was just a very overwhelming feeling. And like you said, you feel like you're vibrating. Yeah. Yeah, it was an incredible knight for sure. Yeah. But it's like, this is something that I think most teenagers or you know, young adults like consider growing up. This isn't your typical trope of what people struggle with internally, but something I've struggled with is like, you know, growing up with
these experiences that are happening around my family. Beyond a number that I can quantify, you know, it's thousands and thousands of these crazy mind altering paranormal experiences and it all, you know, the origin point has always been my dad. So something that's always been in the back of my mind is like, do I have this connection? Do I have any of these types of abilities or you know, any of this kind of any of it? Really, So that night, I know I told you all this, but I
want to say it for the show. That night was a big deal for me and my dad because this is the first night the data and I ever in seventeen years of this and January of this coming year, it will be seventeen years that we've been dealing with this. That's like a double PhD just saying, you know, but it'll be seventeen years that for the first time ever that we said, you know what, you know, we get thousands of people, Can I come to your house? Can I come to your
house? Can I SkyWatch? And you know, wull sift through them and it's like, you know, sure, you can come, you can come, you can come, you can come. It's too many requests, right. All of our skywatching experiences have been people like inviting us over us, allowing people to come, certain influencers online who might have a following, and we're like, yeah, yeah, we should let them come because you know,
then they'll go out and tell it or whatever. This was the very first time that we said, let's go to a neutral setting with the sole intention of skywatching in a public space and working up to some version of mass sightings. You know, you see what I'm saying, Like, yeah, this was This was the start of us saying, okay, we got to
go out there and show as many people as possible something's happening. So long story short, that night was our first night trying to do that, and I never in a million years expected we would see, you know, the very bright orbs crossing. I thought maybe we'd get a couple of blips in and call it a night. No, No, we saw what twenty or
thirty I lost count. Yeah. It was just bang bang, bang bang for hours, and then you know, the group would split up into different chatter and then Dad would say, everybody, you know, get your thoughts back on one thing. You guys might notice that every time we redirected our thoughts together and we would cut the chatter and we would focus, and he would say, you know, think about the beings. The more we talk about them, what happens. Right, Yeah, showed, they showed excitement.
But I say all that to say I was very stressed that night because that was my first time putting myself out there and saying, Okay, every ORB experiences that I've ever had has been the beings just showing. This was the first time that me personally, I went out there and it's like, okay, I need your help here, Like I'm inviting people to show. And that's why I started saying, hey, watch this and started cheering at
the orbs. I was really testing myself and they brightened up, and I just got to say, man, I walked away from that night just as mind blown as you guys. Well. I think the Holy Spirit really may have been sending you guys a message that night, because after seeing what we saw on the display that they put on, I think that really is just confirmation that you guys are doing the right thing in order to spread the knowing.
As you said, you know, this is the best way to do it, to take people out there to have them set their intentions and really just let them see for themselves, because you walk away with it with a complete confirmation that like, yeah, this is it. Yeah, yep, pretty wild. So like, I guess I didn't ask this. I should have asked this in the beginning. But like, if you don't mind me asking, we'll start with you. How did you hear about our family?
Uh? It was probably two or three years ago, and you know, I was going down the uf foot rabbit hole and yeah, it was some you know, some obscure place on the internet. I came somebody threw a name Chris Blood. Chris Blood. So I was like, who is Who's
Chris Blood? So I've read so much in uphology and all the lore and all that, and I I and so I started researching, and I think I came to uh, maybe a video by the Spiritual Frontiers Foundation or either written maybe Richard Dolan I think was the dad did Dolan And then we both did Spiritual Frontiersers okay and and that, and so I and I heard the story. And immediately when I heard the story, I was like it just
clicked, like this this is starting to make sense now. I'd see what the piece is that was missing, and uh, you know, just intuitively, it's just like yeah, this, you know, you know he's so authentic and you know, it just all matched up. And and so I went from there and I you know, went search and trying to get more information, and that ultimately is how it came across this podcast and awesome and
I've been a fan ever since. Awesome deal. Well, it means a lot to me that you guys would come on and like, you know, it's it's twofold here because like sure, like I'm I'm I'm willing to believe, like it's a cool experience for you guys, you know, going on to a podcast you've heard, but you have to think about how much more it's amazing for me because what are you doing right, Yeah, you're coming out here and you're helping me with a witness testimony. So like this,
this is this is amazing for me. I mean the fact that you guys would come out here and say, yeah, why not, I'll go out there and say I saw some crazy stuff with you guys. I mean really like it's for many years we wished people like you guys would do this, So thank you but what about you. I know you've told me, but for them, yeah, yeah, absolutely. So I've actually been listening to the podcasts since the first episode or episode zero, as you guys labeled it.
So I first discovered you and your dad's story on the ten foil Hat podcast. Shout out Sam Tripp. Yeah, shout out Sam. I almost went on there the other day, but they had a cancelation kind of situation. Yeah, that would have been awesome. But I had kind of gone down a rabbit hole of just really getting into conspiracy theories. And I was a big fan of his show, you know, I really enjoyed listening to
it. And I heard your episode where you announced actually that you were going to be starting your own podcast, and as you were telling your story, just the amount of synchronicities between you and myself, I was like, there is something to this. I've got to I've got to follow this guy. I mean, I don't remember them all off the top of my head, but to name a few. You know, we share the same first name
and middle initial. We live in the same city. You know. I was as I listened to the episode, I was like, what this this is crazy. So immediately I went and followed you on Twitter, and then as soon as you announced that the podcast was going to be live, you know, I subscribed to it on on the Apple podcast and I've just been
following ever since. Wow, thank you man, That's that's awesome. And like, dude, there's no doubt in my mind that we were all supposed to meet, because like, how many people do you live in a city with that even that you know, right, somebody you know and you never bump into him in public? Right? Yet how often does that happen? I mean, sure it happens, but the fact that we had never even
met, and by the way, you forgot to mention this detail. You forgot to mention that you were listening to frequencies, yeah, when you had that experience. Yeah, that's true. Whenever I had the dream, I had been listening to some soft Edgio frequencies yep, five eight right, yep, yep. He's listening to these frequencies and he had this thing pop up. I'm going to meet him, and then boom we hit each other in public. That's no accident, right, just a matter of weeks. It's
weird. Yeah. So now we're going to go and I want to start with you this time, Ryan, and then we'll go back to Kyle. Have you noticed any inner changes since that night, since seeing the lights, thoughts, feelings, anything, Uh, really just a different energy, you know. As I mentioned earlier, it was kind of a confirmation of just
knowing what I've believed for a while. And it honestly just makes me want to be a better person, knowing, like getting that confirmation that yeah, the Holy Spirit is there and she is listening, and as you said earlier, she knows me better than I do. So it really just wants makes me want to better myself and share the knowledge that I have with other people. And that's part of the reason that I am so willing to come on here and you know, do this with you guys, is I want to
spread that knowledge. I want people to know that anybody can have this experience. It's just a matter of getting your heart into the right place and having the right intentions. Yeah, well it's because you're a g and the same with me. I mean, you know, you see something like this and you mean you have to go out and tell somebody, you have to share that, And I definitely the whole thing has been a personal transformation a spiritual
journey and it continues to grow. And you know, the relationship you have with God, the Holy Spirit is an important factor in all this and definitely has been life changing and and it just has escalated as you know, going going to the SkyWatch. I mean, it's been happening for now for several years for me, and then it's just the next you know, continued growth and uh, you know, I'm just so grateful I got opportunity. You
know that you let me come out. We don't have to say names, you don't have to like reveal anybody or expose anybody, but I'm very curious to know. And again, I know we talked about this on full disclosure, but this is a new ding, so we'll just we'll hash it out again. But for you, Kyle, after that night, did you go and like tell anybody in person about what you saw? I'm curious, like, did you tell anyone? What were the reactions the reception? Yeah,
I definitely told. I told my family directly, and you know, my kids and my wife and my dad and my sister and I you know, went great detail and you know, and they've kind of known. I've talked about it some with them. And but obviously when I say hey, and I told them the same thing I'm telling everyone, you know that it becomes real, like say, hey, I was you know, I saw it. I was right there, you know. Yeah, and yeah, I think the reception was taken pretty well. And you know, it's an unknown
thing for so many people. Yeah, for sure. And how about you, Yeah I know the answer. Yeah, Well for everybody that doesn't know the answer, I have taken it back. I've been sharing it with co workers. A guy that I used to work with. Actually I recorded some videos on my phone that night, so I was able to take that and actually show people. The guy that I used to work with. His name is Greg. Shout out Greg. Yeah, he listens to the podcast sometimes.
He's got a copy of your Dad's book. He's a big fan of what you guys are doing as well. So I sent him some videos. I showed him to a couple of buddies at work, showed them to my girlfriend. So yeah, I mean, anybody that'll listen, you know, I've been taking it back and telling them and they're like receptive. Yeah,
that's the main thing, is like, it's that people are receptive. Yeah, And I mean That's part of the reason that I wanted to get the video deos because it's one thing to hear it, it's another thing to see it. And so just having that video evidence to be able to show somebody, even if they haven't had the experience on their own and they haven't seen it in the sky themselves, I can just take it and show them, like, hey, this this is what we saw that night. You know,
this is the Holy Spirit. Yeah, and you guys are a little lucky. I'm not gonna lie because you know, being in your shoe and like, make no mistake, Like, you guys had an experience, right, we all did? Yeah, sure, yeah, for sure. My father and I helped facilitate it because we've been in this game communicating with these entities for seventeen years, so we just like we kind of just were a little ahead of the curve. But like that experience wasn't for us. It
wasn't for me and my dad, it was for all of us. Like I don't know if you've like clicked this in your brain, but like you had an experience, right, Yes, you had an entity experience. Sure. It looks like balls of light in the sky and it didn't come down manifest like I want you to like going forward, I want you to begin, like my dad says, you know, imagine. What I always do is I imagine. I don't imagine balls of light, you know what I mean? Yeah, I see those. I don't need to imagine them.
What I imagine is the being, the real being behind the ball of light. And you know, I'm lucky because I've seen them, you know, But like that's what I want to click in your brain. Like you guys saw something that was intelligent, beyond fathom, that was aware of you, watching you, reacting in a way so that your mind would be blown.
Why to awaken you, to give you that knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt, you know, And like that's why I wanted to say, you guys are a little lucky because you had us to show you the ropes. But seventeen years ago, when we were having these experiences and we did, like you guys, we go tell everybody and they're like, ah, you're in Yeah, I'm really glad that it's like we get to help people have these experiences. But it be comfortable, it'd be right, it be you
know, there's no doubt about any of it. You know, it's like they're proofs in the pudding. And then for anybody that like you going forward telling your experience, if they doubt you, it's like, no, look look at this documentary. See that guy, that's my friend. I've been there, not not on the episode, but you know, yeah, I track so many people to your dad's Instagram, like you want to go, you know, you want to see what I saw. Go look at these
videos. You know. It's cool to think about, right, Yeah. And I believe having the opportunity to share that experience with you guys is a big part of the reason I was able to go back and have the experience on my own, because naturally, I'm kind of a skeptical person, and there was always, you know, even though I believed, there was always a little shred of doubt in the back of my mind. And having you guys facilitate that for us and seeing it myself, there's no doubt at all
anymore. And then, like I said, a couple of weeks later, I went back home and was looking at the sky and I saw orbs on my own and just having that, knowing that confirmation, you know, it removed any shred of doubt, and like I said, anybody can do it. You just have to believe. Yeah, you just you have to you know, be thankful and humble and all that stuff that we talk about all the time. But like we also forgot to mention that night, what was that last week? Right? Why saw the word? Yeah, it was
a little over a week ago. And the crazy thing about it was within minutes of me seeing the ORB, you texted me and you know that was just a little on the show. Yeah, that was just a little bit more of a confirmation to me. You know what, I got the receipts here. Let's have that out because it's a really I was showing people this. I'm not gonna lie. Okay, So I texted you Wednesday, October eighteenth. What is today, guys, the twenty eighth, So ten days
ago I texted you. You came over and did full disclosure the week before that. I believe that, sayning's about right. Yeah, we recorded together and we talked about it that night. I was like, Ryan, I think I want to do something on the main show. And me, you and Alex and Jenny hashed it out. It's like we can invite Kyle we can do a whole big episode, you know, but we don't meet again
until October twenty eighth, So keep it tentative. If you have other plans, that's totally fine, but just like, be open to the idea that we might love to have you on that day. Let me just figure out a couple other details. Let me talk to Kyle, this, that and the other. So okay, So then the next week I text you again. On Wednesday, October eighteenth, I say confirmed for the twenty eighth. I even got up with Kyle and you texted me and you said, crazy
timing. I was just about to text you I just saw an ORB for the first time by myself, and he said, like, you know, sounds good, looking forward to it. And it took me a while to respond because actually I think I was recording an episode that night on the main show, but virtually, so it took me like an hour and a half to respond. I was like, oh, that's insane just now seeing this. That means that this is meant to happen. Very excited to records,
no coincidence, We'll coordinate as we get closer. Whatever, And you said, I hope you don't mind that I'm reading with you. You said, I'm excited. Two men caught out to the Holy Spirit asked for her to present herself if it was her will saw an orb drift across the sky, fading in and out. And then I texted you minutes later, right, And the connection there between you know, getting you on the show and you seeing the thing. And then I said, boom, I messaged you minutes
later and asked you to come on the show and talk about it. And you see the orb. See how that works? And right, I said,
no such thing as coincidence. And then I said exactly, And it was a gift of Yoda, because I'm trying to like help you, like my whole key, my whole purpose in all of this, all of it since episode zero, even if even when we have a freaking episode that has nothing to do with anything and you know, probably are not so greatest episode where we're eating out of a bowl of M and M's talking about mudra's and monstras, Even if we have an episode where we're talking about Harry Potter,
if it doesn't matter what we're talking about, whatever we're doing might and higher goal of all of this from the start, it's like you have TV shows, right, and like there's the canon and then there's the filler. Well, this is the canon. This is what it's all about. To me, my whole purpose is just trying to show people how to do this, to to not gatekeep, but to give it to everybody, to share with
everybody. I want everybody to experience this. I want everybody to know about this, truthfully, I want the whole world to know about it, you know, I want everybody so like, it's just crazy that it's happening, and like it's crazy for me that I get to be a part of, like guiding at least two people. Yeah, yeah, you know. One
thing that gets me is like the I don't I think it's missed. Is like talking about the synchronicities and like the dreams and all this kind of stuff, and how you know, trying to explain that to people is really difficult. You know, the fact that you you know, I saw an orb at the same moment that he was texting you. Those types of things to
me, are really hard to portray to people. But they're going on, and they're happening with apparently a lot of people and all the time, and it's definitely happened with me, and it's been happening, and it's happening with you. And then there's countless others that you blew my dad's mind that night and you don't even know why because you told them the story about how your
first orb siding was when you were telling a friend about my dad. Yeah, so we leave the beach that night, we get home, my mom and dad loved you guys, by the way. They thought you were just the nicest guys. Like, definitely from now on, you know, when we keep doing these skywatchers, like, I'm going to be inviting you guys. I'd love for the more people who are there that know about this and
are not skeptical. It energized the whole group. And I don't want to call out anybody, but we did have a skeptic in that crowd that night, and by the end of it, it was funny actually because like kind of you know, a little bit. I don't want to say grumpy, that's not the right word, but just imagine being somebody who's not into all this. Your wife's bringing you there and you're like, you know, being a good husband, You're showing up, but you're like kind of very visibly
not into all this. By the end of the night, he was in the pictures. He was seeing the crazy flashes. And at first, you remember, right, he was like, nah, I don't take pictures. I don't like being in pictures. He didn't want to be associated. And then Dad said, okay, guys, usually, you know, when we leave, they give us one final show to say goodbye and have a good night. Right, they don't. Actually, the beings don't say goodbye, I have a good night. They do some crazy flash that's like, okay,
that was the finale usually, and it did. And the thing shot straight down into the ocean, and I missed it because I was looking at the camera because we were taking a group picture at that moment. Y'all all saw it, but me next thing, I know, I'm looking at the pictures later, and that guy was in it. Yeah, that got to him. He literally said out loud, he said, Okay, that was
weird or something like that, and he was in the picture. So it's funny like even even the skeptic dude in the crowd, he was he was changed. Yeah, I mean it's undeniable. It's undeniable. Yeah, And the more of us who are there who who have that knowing, You know, it helps the whole group, you know what I mean, Like the one skeptic couldn't stand up to the ten people who were really into this. And that's cool. But yeah, so you blew my dad's mind because you're
not the first person who's told him that. He's been told that by a lot, like a staggering amount of people that Like when I told somebody about you in orbit here and we both saw it. Yeah, and how do you explain that? I mean, you know, where does this come for? You know that I was telling this story, is repeating his story. You know, it's just it's unfathomable, but it happened. And you know
what does that mean? I don't know. Yeah, honestly, I mean I can only speculate, right, Yeah, I can only speculate that maybe it's like maybe the beings are so smart that they like the association. You know. It's like if I go and say, God, I really don't want to like call anybody out by name and be negative, but you know people out there who are pushing pig stuff, but we'll do one this to throw away. If I go out there and there and say, you know,
Corey Good. They'd be a little disappointing if beings to are showing up, right, because that's the you know, if you think about it, it's like, okay, well if I say this person's name and then some entity appears, well, you know, if you think about it for just five seconds, that entity is kind of like attached to that person, you know, endorsing that person, confirming that that person you know, And there's not a lot of people out there in the public space who are It's just
an unfortunate reality that the majority of UFO information. I mean, you know, I hate that I even have to describe this. I've grown up around CIA and NASA and all these intelligence agencies. I'm telling you most of it's fake, you know. So it's like it makes sense that when you're telling this story that you know, just hey, here's my friend who experiences this
boom. Okay, well we actually see those beings. They're omni dimensional, they're everywhere, so sure they would give you a flash at a different location, but it's the confirmation for you and your friend that like, oh man, like this is real. Yeah, you know, it makes sense. That's that's where my mind goes. But as you said, this is just speculation. But to give my two cents on it, I believe that the beings will drop little bread crumbs to let you know that you're moving in the
right direction. You know, as you journey along your path to truth, you know, you'll see synchronicities, or you'll see Ryan will text you whenever you see an ORB or something like that, or whenever you're mentioning Chris's story, you know, you see an ORB and they're just dropping little bread crumbs to let you know that you're going down the right path and that you're getting you're getting closer. Yeah, yeah, it definitely feels like that. Yeah,
it's weird. But like you know, I like to ask this. I don't always remember too, but I like to ask this to guests who come on our show, And I want to ask both of you if you had a scenario in which and keep in mind, sure we are recording right now, so maybe this is that scenario, you know, but if realistically, if you had a scenario in which you know, the whole world could hear what you had to say, what was most important to you, what
stands out to you. It doesn't even have to be about the beings or you know whatever. Just like if you had that last thing that you could communicate to people, that's a special something from your inner being that you desire for others to know to help them grow. What would it be you want to take you that first? Sure, I'll go first. And this is something that I've said before, But to me, the one thing that I'd
like for everybody to know is that this can happen to anybody. One of the reasons that I had doubts to begin with was in the back of my mind. I've always felt like it took a special type of person or only some people got to experience this. But if you believe and you know, and your heart is in the right place, anybody can have this experience. Ryan said it earlier. The beings, the Holy Spirit, they have a
connection to everyone. So anybody listening to this, if your heart is in the right place, you set your intentions, They're going to show themselves to you whenever they feel that the time is right, and this can happen to anyone. Yeah. No, that's beautiful and I'm right there with you. That's like a similar thing is the spiritual growth? How important it is you know, trying to find love in your life and you know, dispelling the
negativity, the positivity. Those have all been critical in my journey and there's no doubt that has a lot to do with this connection and anybody can do and can have it. These things are real, they are happening, and uh, you know it's it's a personal connection and it has to do with you. It's these are not external things that are you know, just randomly happening. Has to do with your your spiritual growth. Yeah, yeah,
well it's it's the true. It's been told for thousands of years. You have Shamans who've been saying this, Native Americans, you know, and and
even like the the Paote Shamans in Mexico. Oh my gosh, I just recently did a whole trip there and was it was around Paoti shamans, and like, you know, moving on from that, it's like there's so many ancient cultures throughout the world, and then you get into the esoteric body of knowledge and and there's just so much data that is like pretty much all saying the same thing that God is the spirit. You know, that's that's abstract,
right, Like what is the spirit there's lots of spirits. Well yeah, but really, like imagine, there is a force that's all around us, it's everywhere, it's within us. Every breath that we breathe is animated from that spirit. The wind that blows, all life that that comes here,
it's all from one intelligent force or mind or spirit. And like that's the thing that we've forgotten since ancient times, is that like we're all connected to this spirit, but that connection begins to grow when we seek that connection, you know. And like the reason you guys even came to that beach that night and had that experience with us is because you were seeking. I
mean, it's just plain and simple. You know how many people, and I say this as humbly as possible, do you know how many people have come and like skywatched on our property or around us, or in crowds or whatever. A lot, A lot, A lot government officials, congressmen, senators, billionaires, politicians, a lot of people have come and skywatched with us. But that night that we had was crazier than most of those SkyWatch
experiences that I've ever seen. That night that we shared together because you guys were seeking. And also, you know, it's like it's on us too, because we also had the intention to to spread it. Yeah, we've never tried that, you know. So it's like we all had these intent we were all seeking something that night, right, But like the experiences we had that night were the things that Dad and myself and my siblings experience in
private. That's what I'm trying to convey to you guys, Like I wanted to click in your brain that something special happened that night, you know. Yeah, And that was the question I had, like is this normal because I don't you know that know what now I see all the time. Not normal for for guests, I guess, Okay, yeah, that's it was. It was amazing, you know, that's what a great first time. Yeah, I mean, I'm extremely grateful to have had the opportunity to share
that experience with you guys and to have been a part of it. And man, it was just mind blowing, you know, yeah, for sure for all of us, even the skeptic photo especially. Yeah, and you know, like for anybody out there who who would feel like, oh man, I wish I could have been there, Well that's possible because the whole idea of this was you know, Dad and I and the whole crew, everybody really involved in this. We we fully intend, like we want to
do this more. We we. It's just like I had a certain point, man, like I'm just so tired of only talking on camera. Really like I love this. I don't get tired of this, but I'm tired of only doing this, Like it's not enough for me. I want to I want to show people. I want people to see this. There's no better thing than seeing someone's face the first time they see this phenomenon. It's like I can't I just can't describe it, you know, I can't describe
it. There's no greater display of emotion and shock, but like in the brightest smile possible, you know, like the good shock. It's something about witnessing this that is it makes you feel alive, you know. And I want to show this to as many people as possible. So like, yeah, we fully intend. It'll be a little while because I was like me and Alex were talking about this, It's like, dang, you know,
I'll just put it out on Instagram or you know whatever social media. And I have friends with like huge followings that are willing to help push it. I'll just put it on the internet and we'll just invite the whole world and whoever shows up shows up. You know, there could be a thousand people, there could be five hundred, who knows, but we'll just it. We'll invite you to the public. And Dad's like, no, I'd rather start small and work our way up. So we went from inviting the whole
world to eleven people. Yeah, you know, and we hand picked each one of you. But but but the idea here is building up to what our Patreon discord server the omies, what they have termed bss Fest, which I must admit maybe still not one hundred percent on that, but I think the more I consider it, the more I just like the jingle jangle of that phrase. So I don't know, but we're working towards some real event
where we can get as many people to see as possible. So you know, send us good vibes and you know, amazing things are happening, and thank you guys for coming on, thank you for having us and take us out the SkyWatch. I mean it was you know, the most incredible thing, you know is you can't really explain it in words. It's, you know, something you have to experience. Yeah, it's feelings, like pure
feeling seeing this stuff. It's like it's funny because like I was looking at Ryan because he was sitting by me, and then you were on the other side of my dead right right. Like I was sitting beside Ryan on the outside of the group, and I kept looking over at you, Ryan, like kind of like peeking at you, and you were just face I mean, I was it was a lot to process, man, you know, I was just in shock and awe and it was really the moment that everything
came to fruition. So I mean there may not have been much expression on my face, but there was a lot going on inside. Yeah, I felt the same way. I was just like, you know, what do you where do you go with this? And you know, and I just felt bad too because I wanted to, you know, talk to everybody and really get to know but it was dark out there and all that kind of stuff, and but I was just processing so much information all at the same time. I was like, wow, sit, nowhere to go with it?
I mean I was thinking about it for days. And and another thing too, is like after you know, after that, and I've been doing this, but it makes you want to see it more and you want to go out. Do you SkyWatch more now? I mean I feel like I go even more now, Yeah, like in my backyard or whatever. Yeah, yeah, I mean now that I've seen it and I've started having experiences on my own any chance that I get, you know, most of the time, I go to bed kind of early, so I don't always have
a lot of opportunity at night to get out there. But anytime I've got a couple of minutes, I go out there and I try speaking to the Holy Spirit. Yeah. And you know, for anybody who's shocked by that, like I want to clarify, like, you know, we say that we'd Holy Spirit right, and my expectation just from my experience from having met so many people through this and especially dealing with like the government officials, they get really upfront like, oh, you know, I haven't seen evidence of
God in our CIA files. I was like, yeah, well, you know, because you're not hanging out, you're not out there looking, you know. They there's this pushback against any sort of belief in the deity or God or spirit or whatever, you know. But like, just because we're having these experiences that doesn't mean that we're religious people, right, I mean, it's not what it's about. I want to clarify that. For the people who hear those two words in combination Holy Spirit and they're like, oh,
it's Christian, they're Christian nutters. I'm backing out. I haven't been a church in close to ten years except for two or three times. It's not about that. It's about it's about developing the connection with something that's actually out there, you know. And it's like, for anybody who's confused, why are we all of a sudden dropping that bomb out of left field.
We'll go back to episode seventeen, which is like probably our most popular episode, the Regression Part two, and you'll hear very plainly from the start we've been saying that when this entity revealed herself her identity, the lady, you know, she said, you know, her name is Hathorp, but she goes by many names. She said, she's the Holy Spirit. She's the secret missing part of the Trinity. She's what they called the comfort or she
comes to comfort us through our awakening. You know, she is the force that is the breath of life, that is the universal animation of all creations. She is the force that animates creation. She is the force right if like, if we have the Father God and the Mother God, the Mother God is the one that's here that's interacting with us. She cares for us. The breath that comes from our lungs, and you know we breathe in and out. That's that's all her. That's all the force. Every living
thing breathes. I mean, sure you got like bugs and things like that that might not breathe, but you know, I'm just saying, like there's something to it, right, It's not about being religious. It's just about it's about knowing. It's about dispelling the ignorance and understanding like that is real, but maybe not in the way I thought. You know, yeah, but yeah, I mean it's crazy, man. Like that's something that recently,
again we talked about this on Full Disclosure this past week. I have to say this for the people that hear that, and then they you know, they also hear this. But that's something that's just been rocking my world lately. It's the whole Holy Spirit thing, because it's like my whole life. I've felt like I've been following behind my dad, helping him tell this
story. Picking up the pieces as they play out and telling about them, not necessarily always firsthand involved with it because he goes and he does his thing. All these things are happening. As a kid when it all started,
so in my mind the focus was on different things. But lately I can't help but constantly, at any given moment, just be aware of the presence of some omni dimensional, omnipresent, omniscient, omni omnipotent you know, I was just say omnipotent, but omnipotent singular force, the Spirit, the Great Spirit, right, Yeah, the Holy Spirit's everywhere. Yeah, it's just what it is. It's real crazy. I don't know, it's crazy. I hope that makes sense. But that night rock, Oh that makes sense.
You know. So awesome. You guys did great, like honestly, like you should be very proud of yourselves. You did a wonderful job. I'm very thankful you guys came on. You know how we in the show, right, ye? Any last words, no, just thanks for having us. Yeah, thank you, awesome, thank you. Uh shout out to Nick and Alex, who are neuter today they do not have a microphone for this episode. Wait, I do want it? Can I shout out somebody. Yeah, I want to shout out Markaba Star, who's in the
Discord. Shout out Mark Star, Yeah, shout out yeah, good friend of mine. There's so many amazing people in the Discord. And and you know is you can't take that for granted. I met so many people good, you know, through there. Yeah, it's a great community. It's fun. But yeah, that's all I got. So you know how it goes, right, yep, all right, bye guys, Bye guy, guys. Weird things happen in the backyard blow house, so weird coming here, stray up like smiring on the inside of it. No one knows.
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