Weird things happened in the bad so weird, weird, weird. Wow, guys, we're gonna start really quickly this time, just like we did last time, because as always, Vincent gets in the room and then he starts spitting heat and we want to not like waste a drop of this. So we were talking about crystals and then I was like, pause, pause, pause, record, Yes, we were right, I guess, so wow. My wife doesn't even respond that they when I come into the room.
Geez, I'm telling you, no, it's so exciting. What I was saying just before we started is in this room, the energy is so unbelievable that my soul just wants to leave and float all over the place here. And I've not done any joints, no dummies, no nothing, and I feel that way. You know what I mean is it's like, you guys get used to it, but then when we come back into it, you need to bottle it. And you know what, you can make some real
money on this. No, you don't need to bottle. Just bring people into touris you get ten minutes in here for one hundred dollars, okay, And I like that margin, right, and you can leave and take the energy with you, and and and let it last for a week or so. I think that that's a great monetization. You're the whole room. Hilarious toward the studio of this term in an apartment dollars to step into someone's apartment equipment, why not? Oh totally yeah, don't. Whatever you do,
don't have anybody to clear out this room. This is the energy here is fabulous than even Alex contributes to its energy. It's the energy. No, seriously, the energy of you guys are unbelievable. And one of the reasons why I'm excited to be back here is because of you guys, because you reach and I hope you realize you are reaching all over the fucking globe.
You understand that. Soul Korea, I've got clients calling me from Soul Korea who got my name from listening to bledso said so from Russia, Russia right in the middle of all this crap BET's going on over there, which is not have anything to do with the people, and they're listening. And over in the Ukraine, I've got them calling me. I had, of course, Australia, that was a long time ago. Where are some said Japans
Japan. Japan was another one, as well as China South Africa. So I mean, you are extending everywhere, and that just goes to prove one thing. There is no such thing as isolation. You are not isolated to this little room here in Wilmington. It appears that way, it does, right, It appears that way. But the energy is getting out there because you gotta wonder what makes a person come and want to listen to you? What draws them? I still don't know. Oh, I fucking certainly isn't
looks we would just have Alex on the camera all the time. Yes, yes, we would forget Vince Vincent. I got an idea. All right, you two will be the host and I can kill your grandfather. At this point, at sixty eight years old, here, I'm getting older. My god, you are not. So yes, I am one of us. Get the fuck out of here. You your body is sixty eight. The body don't definitely it is sixty eight, but it looks it's definitely sixty
eight. The attitude is still seventeen sixty. It is. I'm a child at hark and h Like I said, my wife is telling me that all the time. You child you grow up, you know what. That's like one us said, unless you become like one of the ease, you'll never enter the kingdom. Yeah, totally exactly. And it's like I want to be Peter Pan, you know, and I'm in this room flying. So I've that's going for Maybe we can do a whole Disney episode. Yeah.
Yeah, we talked quite a bit about Disney. It's a strong, potent energy having like that that child like wonder that child like that, that that energy is just so I think it might be one of the most pure, strong, most concentrated. You know. It's just like, um, I don't I'm not sure if you you heard, but recently we had some crazy
experiences. Yeah you're crazy sightings. Uh. And my whole family was there really, Oh yeah, mine, it's like twenty of us out there together, my my my parents, my siblings and their children and everyone was there. And one of the things that Chris Senior said was to my niece and nephew, uh, and and your nephew as well, these are magnets, he said, these kids, these kids are magnets for this phenomenon. They are magnets. It's it's that it's that purity and that concentrated spirit. I
don't I don't know what it is. I guess they haven't been bogged down by all that. Oh, it's totally that. It's totally that. And that part inside of you is the closest to your soul that has not been bogged down, closest to the incarnation and the in between space, you know, the in between incarnations. When you're on the other side there and you come here, that child part of you is still bringing that memory with you.
It's not until you get older that the mental filtration system turns the memories off. But that's intentional also, it's intentional, But you can't ever forget that child inside. Now here's where the problem is, and that's why I
wrote the book is very important point about that child inside. That's the part that gets damaged the most quickly, the secret that's holding you back right, And it's all about how our brain winds up creating defense mechanisms to shield and protect us from those original beliefs that are formed from when we're a child, from the messages we received from the environment. So before we receive those negative messages, were the purest and we're the strongest and children are very psychic.
Oh Yarry psychic. They know it's it's like you really need to bring a dog and a child wherever you go and then just ask them both, do you like this guy over here? Just do you like this guy? Do you think he's nice? And they'll give you the true answer. If you hear the dog growling or the kid is hiding behind you, then Jess lee, because that's an asshole you're standing. I am telling you that's great. I told women to do that when they're going on their first date. Oh
my god, dialed than a dog and let's see how they respond. And don't waste your fucking time with a little you know right away, you know the tails wagons growland, just leave. That's it. That's You're absolutely right about the children and they are magnets. Oh yeah, and the psychic thing
too. Like um. Jonah, my ten year old nephew, was He would h after Chris Senior started telling him like, you know, these are what these things are, and these are how they respond and all this stuff, Jonah would start just like pointing and we would see a flash where he would point. Wow. He just it was like he just would remember Dad said focus your thoughts, you know, towards towards the spot and watched and
see if he started the second pointing did it and flashed at him. It's like it's like, there's no, they don't have that the doubt, the doubt, the doubt, no doubt, no filtration system at all. Yeah, so that's why the energy is pure. Yeah, and it is more focused, you know as a child. Now the brain isn't necessarily developed enough to understand what's happening. And that's actually a good part two because it's the thinking part of the brain that gets us in trouble. Oh yeah, it's
creating that filtration system. Yeah, absolutely, I think it's It's it's like critical thinking sometimes can be the antithesis of your intuition, Like it could actually be the opposite. If you think too much and you can try to logically rationalize what you're seeing, it's like, no, just follow your intuition. The kid, a kid doesn't have that like hardcore critical thinking, and they see it, they feel it, they believe it, and well that you
are also saying something that I've been trying to teach the world. There is no such thing as the fear of the unknown. You would never fear something you don't know about, which is why children can be so accepting of that. It's not until they're taught that something like that could harm them. Why do you think children will just walk right in the middle of the street. Yeah, because they don't know that they can get hit by a car.
So if they feared the unknown, they wouldn't walk in the middle of the street. It's not until they're taught. It's not until you see other people having these bad experiences. So it's always the fear of the known, of what you think can happen. Yeah, And about the animals, why they keep doing it? They don't know exactly. They don't know. And I think you're onto something there with the It's almost like the less you know, the more spiritually potent. Why do you think they say ignorance is bliss?
There you go for the reason? Well, I mean, I mean we could go on for this forever. Like Solomon in the Bible, there's a quote in the Book of Solomon, it's like the knowledge brings Uh what is it? Is it? Misery? Is it? Like the story goes, he yet went crazy because he had all this right, had too much,
too much information which is really in greeting. Um. There is a book out called The Flowers for Elginon read it right, And I think we talked about it the last time too that I was here, and they made a movie out of it, I thought so, right. And the whole story
was about a very ignorant man. He had some you know, mental pathologies going on um and disabilities, so he wasn't really aware of everything that was real and what was going on. And he was such a nice guy, and everybody was making fun of him though, you know, because but he was laughing and smiling because he didn't know that they were making fun of him. Exactly like a great movie it is. And and then it turned out that there was a doctor who was able to do a brain surgery to reverse
the process and tournament to somebody incredibly smart, all right. The problem was with this surgery they didn't know how smart it could make him, and then eventually it might reverse, but reverse and become even worse. So he agreed. A nurse started talking with him and as best she could got him to agree to go along with the surgery. He went along with the surgery, and he started to become really intelligent to the process of becoming really intelligent.
He now understood love, and he started falling in love with his nurse. He also started to understand that everybody was making fun of him, so it started hurting, all right, right, and then he became smarter and smarter and smarter, and then all of a sudden, at some point it reverses and he is going backwards. And now the nurse that falls in love with him, she's so sad because it's going backwards. And the most important thing he winds up saying before he goes off and then winds up dying, is
it. If I didn't go through this process, I would have never experienced love, and I would have never experienced what it was to love, you experience exactly it was? It was okay, And Voltaire actually opposed that it was a philosopher, but he was a cynic philosopher from way back when, very cynical, Oh totally. He posed the philosophy and the and the argument that well, that debate he put out up for debate, would you rather
be completely ignorant, right and totally unhappy, okay? Or happy sorry and totally happy, or absolutely brilliant and totally unhappy, which would you rather be see to me, it's like that's not even a question, like I just want to I would much rather be happy, you know, like I would much rather be ignorant and happy because I would rather have the knowledge. Yeah, I mean exactly. And this is what the students arguing back and forth except for me. Oh really, yes, this is where I understood that
I'm more intelligent than most people. You know, that really is just like no, I'm joking about that, but you don't argue the question at all because it's a fake question. It's a fallacied question. If you were completely ignorant, you wouldn't know that you were happy, so you would have no idea what you were feeling. You'd also be defenseless, right, you know, totally defenseless to dealing with the suffering and all of that, so you
would you wouldn't know. You just wouldn't know. And if you were completely intelligent, you would know how to make yourself happy. So it's a completely fallacied question, and everybody is arguing no, just like you said, oh,
I'd rather have all the intelligence and suffer. I don't care. I want the intelligent, like oh my god, yes, And this is why people are miserable because they're thinking those are the only two choice, and the third choice is not to answer the question at all because it's a ridiculous question. It's a conundrum. Yes, it is totally. Did you ever see war Games? No? The movie, Oh my god, it's fabulous movies. Matthew Broderick as a kid was in. It was absolutely fabulous and it
was about a military computer that becomes so smart. But he hacks into it with his friends and he starts playing the game that they had on. They're called war games, but the computer doesn't know it's a game, and the computer is in charge of all the warheads and the nuclear war. I love
that kind of stuff. So they're playing war games and it turns out that the computer is going to launch as soon as he gets the codes, it's going to launch the missiles because that's how far they got in the actual game. So he didn't know he was playing a game. Well, the developer, they get the developer of it. It's a long story, you gotta watch it. Really, it's a fabulous game. Eventually, Matthew Broderick as
a kid gets the computer to play Tic tac Toe. Okay, so he plays Tic Tac Toe and realizes there really is no way of winning the game Tic Tac Toe. If you're playing it right, you cannot win. So the computer then stops playing Tic Tac toes and goes through the whole scenario of war games, and he shoot firing missiles and realizing, well, Russia's going to fire missiles this country. Which ever goes first, it doesn't matter. It ends the same way. You see. The screen's going crazy, lighting
up all over the place because the computer is learning, like AI. It's learning, and it learns at the end that it's a ridiculous game and the only way to win the game is to not play Yeah, not play it at all. So it's the same thing as Voltaire. You know, we're going through all of these debates and these art even about spirituality and about metaphysics, and the whole thing is is that you will find more peace by not arguing it and getting it into that way at all. Just stop trying to
answer the question. Is there a God? Isn't there a God? Stop trying to answer the question, and just live and you'll find out the answer that way, you know, rather than just sitting there and debating it. I mean, how long has that debate been going on? Oh? Forever? And I firmly believe in what you're saying, Like I you know, I can speak to someone who believes anything and I'm never like, well,
how about you don't challenge them? You don't none of that. It's just like, oh wow, Like I'm I look at it, like I could I could get a nugget out of this that I could learn something new, even if it's something small. I can learn something new and like incorporated into my own life somehow. But like, there's there's truth to it all, and there's exactly it's our interpret at the end of the day, they've lived a perspective that you never have exactly, and you're gonna learn from what they've
seen. Who am I to invalidate that by arguing it? You know, this is the reason why I like coming here. And Alex, I know you behind the board over there as a producer. It's just like you get intelligent conversations here. It's like unbelievable. I don't have to go to a university, I don't have to talk to a doctor or like that. I can come here. I just have to pay one hundred dollars to come and do the You need to monetize this. Damn, I mean that people come
in I'm telling you, this is unbelievable here. I'm on such a fucking hog. Okay, this is better than sex. I'm telling you sex take work. Oh God, my wife, I lean don't watch this. Okay, it's because he's within five feet of me. Yeah, okay, okay, calm down, Alex, relax, calm yourself down. Hey, look, if I can make him excited, I'm thrilled make anybody excited on thrilled these days, I'm sixty eight fucking years old. You know what I gotta
tell you, this is really funny. It has nothing to do with nothing out there and not spiritual metaphysical at all. Is like Eileen is always telling me, will you close the blinds at night? Everybody is looking in. And my theory is, I'm sixty eight years old. If you want to look at my naked body, I'm thrilled. Ye, I don't give it. Ninety years old, twenty years old. You just go ahead and look. And if you're not throwing up a laughing I'm fine with that. That's
better. So I am. You want to look ahead, you're ecstatic about it. Oh, like, that's very spiritual, by the way, that was Yeah, that was that was profound. Honestly, that's a spiritual lesson. I think I'll take along. Well, I don't feel shame anymore. I don't need a fig leaf. Yeah, I don't need even need a grape leaf there, maybe a leaf of a cherry. I don't at this point, at sixty eight, that's all I probably need. Um Oh my god, but yeah, no, this is like, yeah, life has
a way of torture. You know. Women don't have to worry about getting back at men because life will do that. In age will do that. We don't need lorraina bobbitt around, slicing off penises or anything like that. Life will do that. I probam. You guys are young. Enjoy it while you see it, or just enjoy it because it will disappear. I can only comprehend what you're saying, but I believe it. It just goes so fast. You have to stay present right now, so unfair. I
have a question about something we were talking about right before. I wish we had got it at the beginning. Okay, go ahead. Something we were talking about right before we started was kind of like the balance between we were talking about our work lives and you know how we all just got to get through the mundane daily. You know, we gotta do what we got to
do to to pay the bills. But ultimately the best thing is to prioritize like your happiness, your your mental well being that you know, your spiritual state of mind and that kind of stuff. You were you were sharing something that was really profound, which is that you kind of you kind of use the universe as like almost it sounded like a safety blanket or like a uh
what are they called it? Like a parachute, Like a parachute. Okay, you know you're you're focusing on the thing that you really want to do in life, but then sometimes you gotta pay the bills, you gotta go do something else or whatever. And the way that you do that is by like projecting your wants or your intentions to the universe and knowing that it will
provide for you. Yes, is that something that you have been like actively practicing for for quite a while, like like putting your intentions out or your wants out to the universe actively? Is that something you've been doing a while absolutely ever since I got onto this road and this pathway of spirituality and metaphysics, I come to understand the law of attraction and that and how it works. That's the most important part that we all need to learn is how do
you get to use this force that's out there? George Lucas called it's the force, but it's exactly the exact same thing that we're all tapped into. So everybody is creating and manifesting twenty four seven, whether you know it or whether you don't know it, and you're either manifesting what you want to what
you don't want. So if you learn how to truly use it, and we call it the universe, we can call it all different things, but it really is a force and a power that just is out there and energy, shall we say, the energy does not think for itself at all, So we think that it's God doing it or the angels doing it, and actually it's not. And they're looking at it's going what is this machine going?
Are going to get it or not? It's like you're tapped into this energy, So you have to learn how to manifumculate it and use it. And you can learn that and what we were talking about earlier. There are so many people that have bread and buttered jobs. Yeah, right, because we need that. We created in our society the need to make money because we have expenses. We have to pay for a home, either tax rent
or a mortgage, taxes there. You can go to some different countries and live in any different way that their policies, you know, demand, but it's still gonna You're still gonna have things that you're gonna need money for food, whatever it is, right, Okay, So how do you then balance going after a dream that seems like it may not produce a lot of money. I mean, how many kids that are growing up have dreams and their
parents turning around and said, well that's not practical. Yeah. Well, honestly, that's the exact reason that I thought it would be good for us to go deep on this right now on the show, is because I mean, I was that kid for such a long time and it just kind of finally clicked that like, oh no, you've got to prioritize your drink in a real job, right, like a real job. That's my parents used to say. Well, my mother was the one who used to say settled
down because I was. I went into professional acting from when I was a kid and performing I that's all I wanted to do. But of course there's there's times that you're working and times that you're not right. So always my mother was always, well, I'm just looking forward to the time that you settled down. This is like, what are you talking about. I am settled down. I'm settled into the fact that I want to be an actor and I've got to do what I need to do in order to get that
done, absolutely well. So many people will try to do that, but then they'll give up and they'll just get their bread and buttered job. This is what I have to accept, and they get and you get caught up in that. You're making a salary, all right, you're making get benefits, and especially today, we need the benefits because those are really expensive, right, and so you're staying in that. But meanwhile you're becoming miserable and miserable each day, and you lose the oh god, the joy of going
to work. It's now become you know, told it's work to get ready for work, dreadful, right, and totally dreadful. Tis it is right, and you don't and so many people don't want to do that, but they forced themselves to do that. They look forward to retirement. And I find it interesting that within the word retire is the word tire, and that means you're what you're doing is you're leaving what you're tired of doing. Wow, okay. And most because people that aren't tired of doing it don't retire.
Yeah, they just they just keep going forever. Yeah, I will be working forever because I love my work, So why would I want to retire from it? And he's great grandfather worked until he was eighty five, and they basically they had to They had to say, you can't work anymore. It was like a factory. Oh got you know he did, but I bet you he enjoyed what he was doing and and it kept him. It also kept him younger and living that long nine he had ten more years
after he retired at eighty five. Wow. You know, it's like more people die after they retire. And it's not just because of the age. It's because they decay then because there's nothing else to do. The emotion they've made totally totally or they've tricked themselves into thinking that their purpose is their job and so when they don't have it anymore, they're like, what do I have to do? Well, they're over well, and let me tell you
something. It's not that they tricked themselves into doing it. They actually convinced themselves that this is who they are. It defines them. So people have got their jobs, not their dreams defining them. Yeah, So what we were talking about is, okay, learn how to use this power, this force out there. So if you have a bread and butter job and you do have a dream and you want to pursue your dream, don't give up your dream never. Just keep going towards it, understanding that you can make
your dream profitable and abundant because we are promised abundance now here. Here's what's really interesting. Going after your dream has more of a chance of you becoming abundant than financially secure, versus going after what's financially secure and thinking that's going to make you happy. You have less of a chance of being happy going after what just the money than you do going after the dream. You're going
after the dream and happiness that will bring along the abundance. Going after the money alone will not will not bring along that is not guaranteed to bring along that. That makes perfect sense. Well, of course, it truly makes sense because you're you're creating when you're happy. Yeah, all right, and you're believing in yourself when you're following your dream. You've got something to believe in. You're taking a risk, yes, at absolutely, you know.
Nature rewards courage. It's like Terence McKennis. Well, that's the reason why it rewards it because you're taking a self love step. I love doing this, therefore I'm going after it, and so that increases your energy. This is one of the reasons why we're down here and incarnated in this physical world is to discover who you are and what your abilities are as a spiritual being as well as a physical being. So if we are capable of manifesting,
the more you manifest in your life, the more you're discovering. Hey, wait a minute, I'm more than just this physical being. This is really cool. I'm a powerful, divine, magnificent being here. I got to tell you some stories of manifesting that just recently happened. Oh but definitely, I'll get to that. But the point is you can actually tell the universe. All right, listen, I'm in this bread and butter job, or bring me this bread and butter job that is going to be flexible, that
will give me enough money to live comfortably. I don't want to have to scrape the bottom of the barrel in order to live, because then I won't be able to pursue my exactly at all. Make it flexible, make it enjoyable for me, use my talents. But let that happen while I'm pursuing what I'm really what my purpose really is here, what my dream really is. I'm going to pursue this. So make this work out without interfering in
this. Now, what you're doing is you're focusing your energy into different ways. You're giving part of the energy is here, you're going to make this work. But now you're directing all the other energy into here, and you're going to make this work too. And because we're unlimited, we're able to do that. But if you're sitting there thinking, oh, I can't, I don't have time, I've got I've been doing what thousands of readings.
Now at this point, you know over forty years of experience. And I've been doing this for forty years, and the majority of people that I work with they'll tell me I can't pursue my dreams because I spend too much time on my job. I work fourteen hours a day. I have to do this. I don't have time to go after my dream. It's not practical to go after my dream. There's no money in my dream. And you know what the pandemic did, and it caused people who lost their jobs to
now have time. Yes, and they started going after their dreams. And there were more people who went after their entrepreneur ideas. Yeah, and it becomes successful. It was an explosion of like small businessesneurship, absolutely because their souls were telling them ahead of time. No, man, you're not supposed like you. For example, I used you for example. You were doing your job. You were telling me about the work that you were doing.
You were doing your job, and you weren't happy at the job you were doing. You were getting upset about it, having to stay at home, depressed and a crashing. Your soul was telling you. But you see, you didn't take the steps that your soul was telling you. When you get messages like that, I'm unhappy, I don't like what I'm doing. That's your soul also going it's time to get out. Go, go take a
risk, take a chance, go do something else. Yeah, and if you don't, your soul will wait and also conspire with the rest of the universe to help you get out. Well that happened. I mean I just I just suddenly lost my jobs so suddenly. Oh it wasn't that sudden. There was a whole plan, right. The funny thing is planning that, you know, I would expect that it was something like that would happen. The immediate feeling would be like, you know, horrible terror, like oh
my gosh, what am I going to do? Whatever? I was relieved. You will feel relieved. I was relieved. I called him that day when he texted me. I was a dinner with my wife and some of her co workers and he texted me, and I was like, excuse me. And I walked outside and I called him and I was like, just want to make sure you're okay. He was like I'm fine. I was like you sure. And that's the truth of it. And then what happened.
You wind up getting something else that right now and this right now could be temporary to while you're transitioning into discovering you soul's purpose the way that I tend to look at it is what we do here with the podcast, what we do making music. You know, I'm I'm producing an album for Emily. I'm helping a lot of other people maps there. That's my dream, like being creative, that's my dream, and making that turn into a financial
success for you, so you can continue to pursue that. Absolutely, that that's the goal that I know that I am headed towards. I know I'm moving in that direction. I know we as a team are moving in that direction. And so the bread and butter job to pay the bills, I don't really care. Okay, as long as it doesn't drive me. Now, I'm going to put the two of you on the spot. Alex, do I have permission to rip these guys apart? Oh? Yes, sir.
All right, here's what I'm going to do. Because I was listening to the both of you talk about your jobs, and you both limited yourselves without you even realizing that you were limiting yourself. So okay, like this whole thing of monetization and getting this to work, you said depends on something. What does it depend on? I don't remember. Oh, people listening, that's right. It depends on numbers. Right, you gave away your power. It doesn't depend on the numbers. It depends on you. It
depends on your belief in this. Now here's what's really interesting. The higher the bar that we want, the higher the dream that we want, the harder it is to believe in it. Yeah. Okay, So so you're thinking than and and it's automatics, this is natural that well, the only way that this is really going to happen. Yeah, we got to bring in that power. We got to bring in those listeners. Man, we gotta we gotta work our asses off in order to make this happen. No,
you fucking don't. It's it's like you don't understand how easy this is. That's right. You got to believe your ass off. You've got even in your job, you would talking about your job and you are saying that your success at your job is based on what this other company does. You see, Now, it's so easy to get caught up in the world beliefs and in the societal beliefs. Right is it's like what you see with your eyes. Oh, that's got to change. No, it doesn't. You
can change that instantaneously. You can change it and we have an influence over even others and the way they respond in the way where they react based on our beliefs. But we do get caught up in the natural practicalities of life, shall we call it, rather than just saying no, not all of that is going to be determined by how strong I can believe in who I
am, my work, my influence over everything. You can change that position just like that, just that all of a sudden you go to work and now, oh wait, your company is calling saying, Ryan, we don't need you to do that anymore. You've got great job, you've got great people that you've been that you've got policies with. We're going to shift you over here that has even better policies that you're going to get. So let's do that today. And you're going, how the hell did that fucking happen?
And it's because you believed that it was going to happen. And the same thing with this with Bledsoe said, so, all right, how do we get this monetized to the point that this is our job, this is our work, this is our passion. We love it so much, we're reaching so many people. Is your belief in it without even second thoughts. Second thoughts. I mean, did you think, and let me ask you this, when you first started, do you think it was going to pick
up as quickly as it picked up? No. A part of me, and I'm being one hundred percent candid, yes, a part of me has always known that someday it will spread around the world. But I'm always shocked when I see the signs that it's actually happening. Yeah, totally. The soul inside of you was telling you the direction you were meant to go, and is why I'm doing my work. I know that, But the human inside of it, it's still shocked, became shocked, which is why I
will turn around. And when I get a phone call from Soul Korea that I get off, I'm like, honey, you're not going to believe this. I just had a fucking call from Soul Korea. I reach Soul Korea. That's unbelieved. I'm like, why why am I so surprised over that? Why would you be surprised if you believed what your soul was telling you. Why would you be so surprised that it did work? The surprise is to let you know you still have more work to do. In your belief
systems. See my problem, I believe, and you can illuminate this for me hopefully. I mean, there's certainly need it. But my problem is I have one hundred percent belief in what we're doing in the mission, but the lack of belief is within myself. For me, it is always that. It's always that because okay, what made successful spiritual leaders? And now let's go all the way back. Let's go back two twenty three years. All right, there was a man walking around and he was thirty three years
old, and all of a sudden he was awakened to his mission. We're talking about Jesus, right, Okay, he's awakened to his mission. But before he started his mission, he went to wander through the desert for forty days and forty nights. Why the fuck did he need to walk through the desert forty days and forty nights for if he was Jesus the Christ right? Why? Because the moment his passion came out and he knew his purpose,
it scared the shit out of him. And the devil the three temptations were his own in a demons he had to face, and his doubts about himself and the power. What you mean, I'm going to reach the world. Let's listen to what you just said. He was thinking, you mean my teachings are going to reach the world. World, And you just said that, you mean what I'm doing over here is going to reach the world.
So you had the exact same fears that Jesus had. The difference between you and him is he faced his in a short period of time because he knew I got to get this going, because I also have the feeling I'm not going to be around here. You've got more time than that. But you got to get your ship together to and face your demons. Because why couldn't you be as good as the Jesus Is, the Martin Luther King juniors, the Gandhi's all, the Nelson mandel Is, the world leaders that change the
beliefs of people. Why can't you be two of those as the same time? Why do you see yourself any different? Is because we wind up looking at those people is up here and us down here when you're their brothers, right, you're over here. They just had more experience and knowledge than you do at the time. That didn't make them better. I think the beauty in this message is we all can awaken christ consciousness. Yeah, I'm the
only one who of it. He phased his fears because he was a normal man, just like you are feeling just right now, and so it you and the same with me. But we have a mission here because what inspired you to do this show is the fact that you are meant to change the world. If you weren't, you wouldn't even have the followers that you have right now. In the message wouldn't have gone as far as zul Korea, Russia, the Ukraine, Australia. It would never have gone out there.
People would not be bothered by it. They would have turned it off a long time ago. But the evidence is in it getting out there now. How far it gets out there and how many people it reaches is completely based on you, because you're putting the power in the reaching others, and that
you're good enough. Nobody else, none of your guests, not even me coming here, even though you know I'm fucking good, I really da, even though I'm fucking good, like that was supreme comf that, like, well, I have to I'm the only one who saying that about me. I don't get that. At home, we say that about you too. Good. Jenna is fucking good. I'm saying it right here, right, go to bed with you, guys. But hey, just my wife. That happens, and you know, after being with her, do you know
that tomorrow's our forty fifth anniversee fifth anniversary? Today we're recording congradually, really really and manly in love too. Wait, my parents just had their forty fifth anniversary. I think we get married and eighty three. I old, my gosh, I woul Jeff, Look, I just wished them a happy anniversary, and I was I'm wondering what it would see the forty four to forty five. But you're right, I think it forty five. Yeah, ye, a lot in common, No, to be to be serious and
to and to to go back to move to sacredness here. Um, the idea is that we are not seeing ourselves as glorified as these beings. How do you ever get to prove that you're divine and god like if we can't start tapping into that and understanding we are. Because the problem is not that we believe that, the problem is that we don't believe that. Right.
That's a fantastic point. A person who acts like God is not believing that he is like God, because if he was, they would be bringing us together, they would be loving, they would be caring, they would be sharing, they would be or have all the compassion in the world. That's exactly what the spiritual leaders try to teach us and to remind us that we are like that because we were created in its image. Right, what does that mean? As we have the same capacity, and it's the lack of
realizing that. It's the separation from that that makes us act the way we are acting today. Yeah, I think I think it's so easy sometimes to like slip into the doubt, right, Like you hear it everywhere, especially us doing the show. We have you know, guests like the the fucking amazing Vincent Jenna here and Articulate and and some others that say, believe, believe, believe, believe, belief, belief, Belief is the key. Belief is how you manifest. Belief is how you get what you want.
And it's like when I hear it, when I talk about it, it resonates, I feel it is so true, and then it's like in practice in the day to day, it's so easy to forget. It's just so easy to slip a constant battle to say, I'm realizing more than ever that it's not even so like once you get past the level of understanding belief, it boils down to baith. You know. Faith is belief, right right,
It's belief is what it is. Belief is. I can't articulate it, but I feel like faith is just a minor step further where it's like, Okay, I'm giving up and I have the trust in this belief that even though right now I feel very upset and very scared and rest everything around me is on fire exactly, I have to trust that it is going to
be okay, you know, absolutely faith. Yeah, and I think that I think I'm just kind of realizing through this conversation that I think maybe, at least just for me, part of that key to to not slipping into those doubtful thoughts and stuff is to be more active about it, be more proactive and like actively believe vigilant. Yeah. So actively believing is another term
for walking you talk, uh huh. Yeah, you have to walk your talk, and you've got to do it every day, and you've got to do it consistently, and you've got to commit to yourself to be able to do it. And when you go into work and you see that negative person there, or you see a situation that it appears that it's not working out, that's all an illusion that's to fake and make you go along with it. But it doesn't have any power over you until you buy it, until
you buy into it, until you play the game. That play the game exactly. If you go along with that, then you I've just made that true. But if you look at it and going they want to believe that this is a problem, go ahead, believe that this is a problem. It's not a problem for me. I know I'm going to do fine. Totally. We've got evidence of that every single day. The people who did
not buy into all that negative stuff are the ones who are successful. I mean, why, why would any of the spiritual leaders speak anybody, anybody, not just a spiritual leader, anybody who made any major changes. If they listen to the doubters, I mean, if they followed that, then we wouldn't have it. They were the ones that said, no, fuck you, I don't believe in that at all. I'm going I believe in what I believe, what I'm seeing in my head when I'm feeling in my
heart that's what I believe. And by the way, I want to I want to share this. Um, I use profanity purposely. We love it right right right, because what spirituality isn't about the special words that are said. It's about what how things are said. Okay, how things are said, the context in it. And if I say this is fucking great, you know that that has I'm putting a punch too. You're putting energy in putting not about being. That's exactly why I do it as well. It
or not not about the world. It's not about being holy. No, it's not about Yeah, I'm intending to be curse. I didn't see that in one of the commands at all. It's like, fuck no. The fact I believe they said the fucking ten commandments, okay, ten command the ten motherfucking commandments, right, this is like, so fuck your neighbor. People would have fucking steal ye to take it a little more seriously, yeah, And and and don't fucking kill mean, don't fucking kill Okay, nothing,
nobody, don't fucking kill. I think there would have been more people charging it with that energy, definitely, But no, thou shalt not take a piss on statues. It's like, thou shalt not with adult three, thou shalt. Yeah, so you use the Lord's name in vain? I you know I had. I was thirty years old before I figured that fuck are out. It's like, what does that mean? Don't use it a name like I can't say goddamn right. It's it's like, no, I
thought using it in vain meant using God's name to condemn somebody. That's using it in vain, right, that's using that's taking God as a power and using that to condone your negativeness. Yeah, that's using it in vain. It'd be like if you said to someone else you said, like God, damn you. You know, then you're you're, oh, yeah, damning you right ahead, and damn you. That's using it in vain. But go oh god, damn it. It's like shit, that just means you're
from New York and probably too. It's an expression. It has nothing. Oh my god, he would give too much power. We get, yes, we get too much. But we were talking about manifesting. So I have to tell you this group. I was just put it on Facebook and you might have some some some of the views or listeners may have have seen this before. But um, so you know, I was a professional actor and when I moved here, I was still acting at a regional theater in
Raleigh, North Carolina. Theater is one of the professional theaters there, and they would bring in you know, Broadway people and local people to do shows. So I did a lot of these shows when I first moved here. That's awesome. But then I stopped. Okay, Then then I got so involved in my work now as a psychic therapist and spiritual teacher and a medium and an author. Now, right of the secret that's holding you back? Yeah? Amazon, right, exactly. Yes, it comes in audio,
eat book and paperback. Yeah. Did you do the audio book? Yes, of course you did audio book. I got people listening to it going, oh my god, I love your voices, and I'm like, oh my god. I hated doing it. I had fun. It was okay, okay doing it, but yeah, now you get to listen to my voice even more. Um and so um, I stopped acting and I got into this full time, which I absolutely love. And I kind of feel like I do one man shows when I do live events because I'll sing it
them. Also, I have seen him live. Oh yeah, yeah, George right, yeah, yes, where we met it was like that's right, it was. It was nothing short of like spiritual stand up. That was hilarious. Spiritual stand up, right, That's what I love that. It's really like spiritual stand up right exactly. So I do that. But then I'm just recently I missed actually doing a musical because that's what I used to do as musicals. So this is what I did. And this was
back in um the end of March, the end of March. I turned around and I go, Universe, this is what I mean about controlling the universe and this law of attraction. Yeah, you know, and the God force that's part of it. Now, okay, listen the universe and God. I'm in the mood to do a musical. Bring one along that I can do. Okay. Come the first week of April, which is my
birthday week. Okay. I receive an newsletter from one of the other local professional theaters that they're doing this season is Jersey Boys is the first showing that they're doing for the season. Now, the reason why I love Jersey Boys is I actually was supposed to do it on Broadway and one of the parts in it is a mafia boss. Oh man, okay, And I was being held to do a replacement him on Broadway for a year. Eventually I was brought back in and for the director to see me, and the director
didn't like me, and he didn't think I was subtle enough. He thought I was too Italian. He has no taste, all right. So no, that was a disappointment. But now all of a sudden, this theater is doing Jersey Boys, so I'm like, this would be really cool. My daughter even called me up and your dad, you're not going to believe this. The theater is doing Jersey Boys. You gotta go in audition for it. I'm like, no, I can't. I'm doing all of this
stuff. And oh, there's no guaranteeing if I audition it is don't hire me exactly. The negative thought came in right away. If they don't hire me, forget it, then I really feel bad, you know, not doing it at all. And she said, no, you should really try it. I'm like, oh, damn, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Okay. So a couple of weeks go by and then all of a sudden, I get the newsletter that they're having open calls, and I'm like, I do not want to I'm sixty eight years
old. I do not want to go on an open call with all these young people to have to audition a to pain in the end. So I go back to the universe again and I say, Universe, God, do me a favor. If I'm supposed to do this show, let them send me an invitation to do it. The producer knows me. I happen to know the director. I did a show with him. He's actually the director who was one of the four seasons in the Broadway show. So now he's doing the directing of this show, all right, And so I said,
let me get an invitation. I get an invitation, then that means I'm meant to do the show, and that you telling me to do it. Okay. So I have my phone in my hand. You know, I was sitting in the living room. I was kind of watching TV, and I had this conversation with the Universe and God, and I needed to check my email until I go and I look at my email and new emails just came in, and this top one is from this casting agency out of New York to Vince and Jenna. I'm like, um, what the fuck is
that? It's like? But they went through this website called Actors Access, which I used to be a member of. It's the way actors get contacted by my different casting agencies and producers and all other agents to come and do something right. So, but I hadn't been on that for like fourteen years. I didn't even know what my fucking password was, right, So but meanwhile I have to go to it in order to get the message from this castle. So I'm going, all right, So I'm going on Actors Access.
I'm punching in all of these passwords. Of course they're not working. No, but it wouldn't even work resetting it. I couldn't reset it. It just happened to be somebody a live chat. So I chatted with the guy. I said, you got to get me into this sight because I got a message from a casting agent. So he resets my password. I get in. I opened the damn thing and it says, the production team of Jersey Boys would like to invite you to come do the part of Jip
de Carlo in the production if you are interested. Damn How funny is that that literally the obstacle was placed in your path to It's like being funny at you. You said, let them send me and invite. You had to work to open it, Yes, work to open it. So it was so easy that if you pay attention, you know, but it's like, do you really mean it? You really want this? Because if you really
want it, now you've got to here's I'm hanging it for you. But you still have to You got to work a little bit more for it if you really want it. And it's always a tease that way, but there it was. It's an invitation right after I said, send me an invitation, and it was a top one. It's not like I had to go through a whole bunch. It was the top one. And I was like,
that is unbelievable. So of course I went down. Now not only did I get the part three week production they only normally do two weeks, but Jersey Boys, they knew that it was going to be really populous, so they added an extra week of shows. Not only was it so much fun to do, but it turned out that the asked and the show was top notch. A people was saying it was even better than the Broadway show. And so it was like I did a Broadway show and people were coming
two and three times, were sold out all the time. The reviews went incredible. The director gave me five parts to do, not just the main part of Jip to Carlo, but four other parts because he figured I could do it. It was even mentioned in the review how I did these five parts and each one incredibly different and on top. And that's what people So I became popular because I did so many parts and did each one so good. I was even surprised over that. But it was get out of my
way. See, I said, I don't care whether I do this or not. It would be nice. So it wasn't a great high bar, right and it was very easy for me. How arrogant is it to turn around and say, let them send me an invitation. But that show to belief that I had it did right, Yeah, a certain belief that I went, oh, no, they know me. But here's the the caveat to that too, is really interesting. The producer knew I wasn't acting anymore,
you know the dark, and I thrown I'd stopped it. She knew that, but out of the clear blue both her and the director turned around and said, let's ask Vinny to do this part and I get the part. Congratulations, thank you. I had such a blast on that it actually made me miss Broadway, real Broadway. And I'm like, okay, all right, universe, let's let's as long as you did. But what did I say? Now the bar is a little bit higher because I'm thinking Broadway?
Oh, are they going to think I'm good enough for Broadway? And there's where you get stuck with that good enough feeling? And yes, relic replicate that you exactly. You had that that complete total confidence and belief that you would get that part. You got it exactly in the way that you asked for it. So we're just moving to the next step. Dan, I'm gonna throw that right at the both of you. The three Yeah, yeah, okay. In how many weeks did it take before you got up
to two hundred thousand followers? It in a short period of time, two hundred thousand you got those views? Views you Yes, you got those views. Yea real quick, pretty super I think within the first year. Who was before the first year, probably, Yeah, it was very total views. So okay, so there was evidence there for you to understand that all these people were watching you. Why then would it be so difficult for you to think that there would be more? Why because you're going back to those
numbers. Now, how many people are signing up, how many people are subscribing? Okay, well that number may not be moving as fast, but it was really Oh this is really cool. Look at this. All these refused, Wow, this is great. On I'm so excited about that. But all you have to do is carry that over. Oh, if we can get that many in the US, we can absolutely get that many signing up. You have to have that kind of faith. Oh yeah, the proof. The proof comes after the belief and the faith, not before.
I just kind of had a realization. They always say with manifestation, you're supposed to envision the feeling very vividly, how how you should feel when you achieve what it is that you need. You know what I mean. That's that's a way that you're supposed to manifest is like, Okay, let's say someone's trying to manifest a lot of money, and it would be something to the effect of like vividly trying to imagine what it would feel like to hold the check in your hand, you know, and like, oh man,
I'm so happy absolutely to feel it. I just kind of realized that my problem is is I've I've never in my life really felt that positive feeling about what I'm trying to achieve, because it's not every it's not every lifetime that you know when you're not to boohoo, But when you're a you're full of shit. Your dad goes, let me tell you why you're full of shit? Okay, tell me you think you're the dumbest around. You think you're the dumbest around, or do you think you're pretty smart? I don't think
I'm the dumbest around. Would you think you're pretty smart? You got a lot of knowledge inside of you, don't you? Yes, you know? I mean, I'm just agreeing with you these like agree you can say you're absolutely you've got all of this wisdom you've got and more than most your rage. Would you agree to that? I would agree to that? Okay, So why is it so difficult to believe that you're that special to be able to make more happen in your life for you? If you if you already
have evidence, Okay, you're not a dumbass. You cared enough to gain all of this wisdom and knowledge, So why can't you go further with that? Understand that was for a reason. That must mean something about me. I do believe that logically, but I think there's like an energetic blockage there, you know, like being fifteen years old, the Discovery Channel came out and we were laughed and mocked and absolutely crazy by everybody. Literally so many
external voices saying you're crazy, You're dealing with the devil. We got that, and now you know, the History Channel episode with us is about to come out in a few weeks, and I'm just like, oh my god, I feel like I'm fifteen again. What if it happens again? You know, coming back to happen. Okay, first of all, all of the people, I don't have that model. I don't have that positive model. But you also don't have the negative model. You have the negative model
from negative people. Okay, negative and negative becomes positive. What happens? Did you remember your math? Negative times negative, it's positive, it's positive. So you have negative voices, negative treatment from negative people, which completely negate means all of that. It means absolutely nothing. But you're you're wanting to buy into those negative people, just like I wanted to buy into my
negative mother. My mother had absolutely no esteem whatsoever about herself, And anytime I said I wanted to be an actors, it's like nothing comes from the jen as anyway. Why do you think you're so special? And so that's the voice I hear when I'm doing my work and I want to go high
with it. Now, I've been able to get pretty far so far, but I'm still not at the level that I want to be at and being out there, but that extra level, those extra numbers that you want, require such a dip deep belief in how good we are to get that. Why not you? Why not the both of you? Why do you think somebody else? Why do you think Logan Paul is that this was at class one. He's a great guy, but he acts like an idiot. Okay, but he took the risk to believe the reason why he is so successful
is because he was too stupid to think he was stupid. And then it was like he was just gonna believe whatever he did that everybody was gonna love it, and he was absolutely right. Yeah, And if you think about it, it's like, what's the worst thing that can come from you believing in yourself like that, and I'm talking, I could tell you the worst thing, what is it? The worst thing is your belief in the fear
that it doesn't come. Now you realize you were wrong about yourself. And if you realize you're wrong about yourself, then the only conclusion you come to is well, I'm not so special, I'm not so smart, I'm not so good. So then what is it about finding the right balance of believing in yourself? Then? Because no balance, it's it's either are yeah, there is no there's no gray shade you either believing in yourself. That's that's what I mean, Like what what could what bad could come from you?
And just believing in yourself to the fullest, that's what That's what I'm yeah exactly. Only good can come from it. But again, like I said, is people fear. Most people feel their specialness as souls. They really do. Even the people with no talent, no skills, no way, you ask anybody. And this is what scares everybody else because you look at
somebody who's not producing anything major, not not a star. You look at the guys and the girls who are auditioning for American idol and think that the greatest thing is around, right, and they think they're special, but they're really not. And now you're looking at them and you're going, wait a minute, I think I'm special, right right? I think I'm really talented. What makes me more talented than them? He is the different sustenance sustenance.
Your belief is true if you have sustenance to prove it behind it. Those people who believe that they're great singers never had the sustenance of being a great singer. They never had it. They're actually latching onto that belief to counter how bad they feel about themselves. So it's that narcissism idea. Narcissists truly do not believe they're great. They absolutely believe they're the biggest shits on the planet, but their defense mechanisms counter that, and their brain purposely creates
grandiose ideas about themselves to counter that low self esteem that they have. Otherwise they would never survive. So the difference is sustenance. You have sustenance, You've got content, You've got proof already that what you have to say and do is real, is real. So therefore your feelings about yourselves and your
feelings about this show have to be real. And here's the other part that's deep, that's so deep, the way that you just related it to like narcissism and that personality disorder and like that that was like a map for me. I almost like I understand that fully. Now you've got it. You've got it. You've got to believe it. And and and here's the other part that you need to believe along with it. You wouldn't have this feeling and as sustenance if it didn't happen already. So you're thinking, I have
to explain that. Yeah, you're thinking you're creating something new. You're not. You're tapping into what you already created. When before were you, before you came down and incarnated in this world you put out into the universe into a dimension your plan. Right. See, if we're if we're needing to experience who we are, then it isn't about anything we create that needs to prove that. What proves who we are is the ability to create, not
what we've created. Okay, nothing like sending a rocket to the moon wasn't the important part, but the belief that we could, Oh my god, look at how far we were able to go, Yeah, so who gives a ship now that it landed on the moon, we hear that, so it's now now that nothing. Now we want to go to Mars. Right, so the idea is then and and all of your luminaries knew this all right, and they expressed it to each other when Wilbur Wright woke up and
said to his brother one day, you're not going to believe this. We need to make a vehicle because I just saw a picture in my head of a vehicle going through the air carrying people in it. And Orville said, oh my god, you're nuts. But what did you take last night? And this was before gummies day dream about the plane, wanting to talk him out of it, and he said, no, you don't understand. If I dreamt it, that means it's real. Yeah, Plato, I said
this. I said this before is Plato came out with the concept of forms, and his theory was, if you can make this couch, it's because the form of it exists in a dimension somewhere and you're just tapping into it. So you guys making Bledsoe said, so into this famous you know, monetize and you're going to live off of this. That's nothing. That's not your job, right, Your job is believing you can and that it already exists. So by your believing in it, you'll manifest it right into existence.
But it's the belief that makes you go, oh, now I know who I am and who we are. Look at where we were able to create great you know, and quite honestly, you may reach the pinnacle that you want to reach and the next day the world ends, yeah, and
everyone will have still been totally successful. Yeah, honestly, that is so profound, Like and you know, like all the all the monetization stuff is great, and like we'd be lying to you if we told you like, at a certain point, we can't evolve the show without you know, being able to live on it and been in the old ways of our lives and Nick move here. But my whole thing is I just want to awaken as many people as possible, you know, I want to help people awaken,
And that's why I wanted to do this. After they pushed me to do this, you know, I started to see it more clearly, like, wow, we could really reach people, and it's just it's to me, it's like documenting the awakening, you know, a meta documentary the whole thing, the whole time. That's been my whole imaginary vision of this is this, like documenting the awakening, intention is actually what gives power to it. Even more so when your intention is that pure, okay, then is absolutely
nothing stopping you. I can tell you without a doubt. This team has never had a single, like vain conversation of being like man o bunch of money. Would you know? It's not about It's never never been about that for us. The monetary part is simply so that we can do it more and do it better. That's all we care about. Like and and sure it'll support us, you know, so that we don't have to have some other job. That's cool, But I mean we just we just want to
This is our baby. We just want this to be as good as it can be. Uh And so yeah, I think And the whole idea of wanting to awaken people is because apparently you already have, which is the reason why the desire is inside there. You're just thinking it's a new desire, it's not. It's an old desire. It's been part of your plan. You didn't go to school, and you didn't pick up all the books and learn all that you learned just so that you can pack it in here for
yourself. You're it out all over the place in this podcast, and the two of you didn't hook up with your interest in your abilities and having this conversation just so that you can play fun with the microphones and everything. You are doing this to awaken people, and you've already been making it happen. So the more you believe in the success of it, that it's out there,
Like I want to speak in front of eighty thousand people. I see myself standing on a stage in an arena with eighty thousand people, making them feel their godness and seeing that auditorium that's that stadium go crazy in them finally realizing who they are. That's what I'm seeing about. Imagine the energy in that room. Well, absolutely is what I want. But I think you kind of are doing that. Oh already, Well I yes, yes,
I am, and I'm not going to deny that. I'm very I feel very blessed by that I feel And this is what's really important and everybody needs to understand this. I feel so good that I am doing it right now. That doesn't mean that I'm doing it the rightest way. I know that it's more that I can do to make it better, and I'm always working towards that. But damn it, I like what I'm doing. Do you like what you fuckers are doing? Yes? You think you guys are great?
Are pissers? You you make? You bring out the best in some jerk like me that's coming as Italian New Yorker. Absolutely, And this guy hiding behind over here, I mean, he puts it all together and he doesn't realize his energy is just as important as bringing out your energy. And I hope he does realize that we couldn't do it, don't You've You've got to appreciate that and go walking away going damn, I am reaching people. This feels great, and everybody needs to do that. Our problem is not
that our egos are overinflated. Our problem is we have no egos because they've been thwar and taken away and beaten down by every single negative out there, and every single day and every time you go to work, your ego is being thrashed because of all the other ship that they're doing and what the other people are doing that's wrong and what you're not liking about your work, and only shit is and with jet that is not inflating our egos. This is
what's meant to make you feel who you really are. I'm waking up people, and I love that I'm doing that. I love that. I love people. Okay, I love that I can love. I just went to see the guy who did Frankie Valley in the show that I did. He just went down to Hilton Head and did it at a theater there and we drove, We drove, my wife and I drove five hours to see him to support him because I love the guy. He's wonderful and I love that about me. Yeah, you guys have to love that and how you make
people like me feel how you feel. And this is everybody needs to feel that for themselves and about themselves. It's important. It's really important. Like life is so hard to get through sometimes, like you have days where you're just like nothing I'm doing is working. I feel like I'm completely incompetent. There's there are a few things in this life more important than believing in yourself.
I really believe nothing. That's the most important thing, because you can't make anything happen in life, neither for you nor anybody else in your life unless you believe in yourself first. It's just like what the flight attendant says on the Arab is not just a seatbelt. When the oxygen mask comes down, put it on your fucking face first before you put it on your baby's
face. Otherwise you'll be dead, won't be able to se It always starts with you, right, Yeah, And we're being taught too many times by too many so called religious and spiritual concepts and philosophies out there that selflessness and not thinking about you is what we're supposed to do. Service two others. Only fuck that, Yeah, not only just maybefty nine. No, it starts with you one hundred percent because we're unlimited, so that means we have
two hundred percent. So one hundred percent for me as I take care of myself, and then I have one hundred percent for you as well. Yeah, you got to fill your cup before you can fill that. But what he's saying, what he's saying is your cup is limitless. That you can pour everything into yourself and pour every pour it into and when you believe that, that's when you get the energy. People ask me all the time, Like, when I'm doing all my readings, aren't you exhausted? Aren't you
tired? You're you going to do as good if a reading for me I'm like giving me. I am completely energized because of all the work I just did. So yes, you're going to get a great reading, you know, completely energized. Kobe Bryant had a quote that was almost exactly like that. People were warning him about putting too many eggs in one basket or whatever, like what are you gonna do if you put all your eggs into this one basket and then it doesn't pan out? And he said, I'm gonna
get more eggs. You're limitless. You're limitless, gonna get more eggs? Well, yeah, for God's sakes, doesn't the government show that every day they run out of money, what do they do? Get more? They print more? Yeah, that just an example. It's it seems like, well, that's going to get us in trouble eventually, it seems that way, But no, it's not. It's only going to get us in trouble
when we want it to get us in trouble. We are completely limitless, really, and so but it's our belief in our limitedness that has caused all the problems, because that's why we want to protect ourselves, protect our belongings. I don't want you taking them. I don't want you stealing them. But that's why I was said, if if a thief comes along and steals your shoes, give them your cloak as well. You'll get another one. Yeah, it's all good, you'll get it. You'll get it. So
all of this to make you believe more and go after your dreams. And you guys out there, believe even more and go after your dreams. And when you believe, your dreams will surface. Because that's the other thing. People always ask me, well, I don't know what my dreams are. Yes, you do. You came in with a shitload of them. You've
forgotten them because you don't believe you can attain them. And it's easier to leave this life with the thought of, oh, I never knew what my dreams were, rather than the thought of oh I knew what my dreams were, but I was a chicken shit to go after them. Yeah that's harder. Oh yeah, So the defense mechanism will turn off the dreams to protect
you again. Oh that's so true. It is true. Oh, I mean I have been that person, and I have people in my life that are like that, and I just so you just tell them you gotta believe anyway. You gotta start with believing in yourself first, and that stuff will reveal itself through time. And keep on believing in yourself. Don't back up on the believing in yourself, because then after you find out what the dream is, then you'll start seeing it come true. Absolutely, that's beautiful.
You know, why is it that I feel all the time when we are doing this show and we're ending this show, that I've had the greatest joint? Why do I feel that it's like, right, it's like this incredible high the energy we're uh and it's not And without anything down to the little roach there, I'm telling you, yes, that's it's actually the reason why people did drugs to come to these kinds of understandings. Right. Well, we we've done that and that actualization without having to do any of the drugs.
Right well. You know, you know, really funny thing is a lot of these like spiritual gurus and leaders and enlightened people they like there's examples of you know, Terrence McKenna, he was like a big like the psychedelic Yes, yes, he gave an enlightened guru acid like the guy was willing. The guru was willing to take it whatever, Curly Baba right, yeah, wow, it had zero effect on him. Oh remember because he tricked him. Yeah, he took it and he started going, oh, like
he was freaking out or something. And then he's like, I'm just just kidding. It's not I'm not doing anything right because he'd been tripping without it exactly, that he was able to get to that level. That's that feeling. That's absolutely absolutely so. Here we are and at the end, my gosh, the only thing we don't have a time limit, We don't go forever, but is reasonably Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this this has been the absolute coolest. We got to have you back a million
more times. You know, I love being here. Yeah, always is gonna continue, you know, like we we love having you on. And I'm not kidding, Knicks, not kidding, alex Ni kidding. We've been telling you this the whole time you've been here. Yes, you are one of our very most requested repeat guests. Oh yeah, probably the most. Well, thank you you guys, and you listeners out there, thank you,
and and you know what they should do. They should be writing in questions that they want to have answered and to you too, well do you guys on the show just in general, first of all, what to give you topics, but also for me to answer when I could do come back? Great, we already do that and it's called what if. And we can have Vincent on a what if. I think that would be really awesome. I think it might be even cooler since you have so many people in
our audience that love you so much. I think it would be cool to do an extra special what if where people write him questions specifically that would question yeah, yeah, I want to know what you want to know. I don't want to just speak my shit. I mean, you know this is going to help you. Oh, this has been fantastic, but that is that's like a next level idea. So next time will coordinate it. You just to walk in and answers. Good. I love that. God if
I don't have to think. But then again, most of my talking I think I think anyway, That's what my wife is always telling me. Do you never fucking think about what you're saying? It's just like no, because if I did, I wouldn't say it for sure. Oh thank you guys. I just love you. I just I'm filled with your energy. My heart is filled with everything that's going on for you guys, and and your success. You really are amazing and and bled so said so is just on
the tip of everybody's tongues out there. We're going to make it even more so. We love you, we love having you here. And you remember how we in the episodes hold thought. Where for everybody listening out there, where can they find you where you need them to go? All right? You can just go to Vincent Jenna dot com. That's with a G E. N NA. You can connect with me. You can go to my podcast to Jenna Effect. From there, um, you can go to Amazon
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so we end all saying bye guys. It's cheesy, but it's like a little ritual of ours. So on account of three, we're gonna say bye guys. Ready, three, two one, Bye bye guys. Weird things happen in the backyard whatshouse? Yeah, I got so weird coming close your to my heir state, like spiraling on the inside of it. No one, Wow, it's come. I never time. Shine ain't happy.