Weird thing happened in the backyard. Weird, weird, weird. Wow, what's up guys, Hey, welcome back, welcome back. It's been a week for you, you know, the drill has been like weeks for us. So exciting to be here. Um, we wanted to keep it, um really light and conversational today. I wanted to use really light maybe okay that I was Actually it was Alex's idea to do this concept, and I thought it was really cool. You thought it was really cool. So um,
on Full Disclosure episode what six, Alex? We just put out seven, right, yes, so we're okay. So on on episode six, Um, I for like forty straight minutes just talked about light and like what that means to me? Full Disclosure is our our Patreon show, by the way, Yes, And I wanted to expand more on that conversation on like the public platform because it was just really fun and I feel like it's it's a really fun conversation and Nick has no idea what we talked about, right
right, And I'm very excited. This sounds like a fun concept. I mean, light to me is so weird and like it's almost like it's an element you know what I mean, like it's like, what is it? What you know that they've learned that it's like conscious, like it behaves. I'm very, very intrigued to see where this is going to go. And you know, it's not like a big deal, it's not like there's you know, mind blowing, groundbreaking research, just just you know, the concept
is really fun to ponder and to discuss for sure. So, UM, where we kind of went. I mean, I'm not gonna be able to recall exactly to the tea, you know, the entire forty minute conversation, but um, probably should start that. So I just want to have a quick call back here. So I can't remember what episode it is or was. You probably do, but we were talking about light and then you said photon gun and I said, dang, I really want a photon gun.
That was early in the show. That was early, so I started googling. Well, it turns out a photon gun is a flashlight. So wow, okay, let's get to a flashlights. Well I already have one, so one step ahead. Have you seen those flashlights that are like you you could turn them on in a pitch black room and it looks like the entire room is dude, I may have one of those flashlights that you can turn them on outside and it looks like it's daytime. Yes, yeah, they're
like twenty thousand loomens. That's what I'm talking about. They're insane. Yeah, that's that's cool. I would love to have something like that. Yeah, just to put that into reference too, about a thousand to two thousand lumens is like super bright to the point of like self defense. So one thousand lumens is like daylight. Yeah, it's like permanently. Have you seen those videos though that we're talking about. Yeah, they literally light up the
entire like forest, and yeah, they did it. They did a H three did like a thing where they went through a haunted house and they were all sitting around like all quiet and scared and stuff, and Ethan had one of those He just like, no hed nobody knew. He just pulled it out and turned it on in the middle of a pitch black haunted house and everybody's like, yo, what the fuck. Like even the guy there who was like the medium or whatever, was like, oh my god, I
see your spirit. Yeah that's right. Yeah. Oh. And the other reason we wanted to talk about this is because it's been on our minds lately just in general, without spoiling anything, Tears of the Kingdom. It's yeah, for those of you who are not initiated, we're talking about the new Zelda game, Tears of the Kingdom, which I'm sure most of you, yeah, most of you already with a heartbeat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyone with a soul with like a spark of light within them. Nah,
I'm kidding, No, it's it's sick though. And you know, we're not gonna like get into the spoiler heavy stuff because it's only been out for like two weeks and that wouldn't be very nice to spoil such an amazing thing. But like, the whole concept of the game is Zelda being like this vessel for the Goddess of Light, right yeah, And like the whole way that you gain power in the game is by completing these shrines and then you're blessed by the sages with these crystal orbs of light. Literally, yeah,
like the little tears, like the little well and the shrines. It's just the orbs, right, yeah, just orbs of light the shrines. See, dude, I keep getting confused between shrines and temples because Casey keeps calling all the shrines temples. So when you said shrines, I immediately thought temples. You get the tears from the temples, which, by the way, the tears are filled with that light. Yeah, that golden same thing. Light like at one point, I mean it's not really a spoiler.
At one point, Zelda literally like turns into an orb of light. Oh, it's very beginning of the game. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, it's it's pretty on the nose that that game is extremely mystical, probably more mystical than anything game is enlightened in fact, it's Oh, by the way, dude, totally off topic. I just watched Panio recently. Oh that movie is enlightened. Oh man, And here's what we're gonna do. This was my sister's idea. She's gonna come on the show and we're
gonna do a Panio episode because it's one of her favorite movies. Oh my god, that is gonna be so lit. I've seen that movie probably ten times. I mean, like, all the Miyazaki movies are fire. If I'm not mistaken, Panyo may have been my first one, the first one I ever watched if maybe, but I love that movie. And yeah, talk about mystical bro talk about like the knowledge. Yeah, there's literally a giant goddess that's the Mother. Yeah, it's literally her mother, Yes,
the Divine Mother. Incredible, that's gonna be a fun episode. That's I'm so stoked for that. So light. Yeah, So what we talked about in full disclosure was just kind of like off the brain, you know, off the old dome, and it's like when you really think about light and you break it down. First of all, why are we talking about light? Because these experiences that I've had my whole life, and now you know, Nick and Alex have had many of them, and many people around the
world are having them too. I mean, you know, surely we're not the only people. But they, for the most part, are almost always in the form of light, you know, their orbs of light. I've seen light beings with hands and feet walking around, you know, entities face to face. They're always light. The vessels that they maneuver in, they're made of light. Why light? Why do they appear as light? Their body in their form is light? You know. So I've spent like my
whole life thinking about that. What does that mean? And where I've kind of been led to like understand is that they must vibrate at a rate that is so far beyond our vibration and far beyond our perception that they don't need a physical form they they I think they resonate with the vibration of light. WHOA like, whatever frequency their quote unquote body or their self is vibrating at
is the same as what light. That's what you're suggest I think, so yeah, And I think that's a very deep, multi faceted conversation because then it's like, okay, well to resonate with the vibration of light, there's a spiritual component there. How do you even vibrate at the resonance of light? That's a deeper conversation and we can get into that a little later. But like, if you think about it, it's proven through science. I
believe it's called the Brownian movement. Can you look that up, Alex, Like the Brownian But every particle in existence is vibrating at the specific rate.
Everything that you've ever touched or seen or observed in your life is just a collection of particles that are vibrating slow enough and close enough so that they have the illusion of physical dense matter, right, Yeah, So how is it possible that there are entities that can just appear in front of me in my room, walk through the wall, be glowing like a light and just vanish.
How does that thing vibrate? It's funny when you when you mentioned like they they potentially resonate with the frequency of light, it made me think of the word enlightened. Yeah, you know what I mean. Oh yeah, it's like when you said, like, how do you get there? How do you do that? And the first thing I thought was like, well, you know, all I've heard is you become enlightened to vibrate higher to you know, I think that's the secret enlightened. That's what I'm saying.
Like, it's that kind of blew my mind for a second. There it is word magic. Like maybe that's why it's called enlightenment. You are filling yourself with like holy light or like divine light. You know what I mean. That's wild. Well it took me forty minutes of full disclosure to get to that point, but that's that's exactly I mean, that's the nail on
the head man. It's like, I think that's exactly. It The way that we vibrate in the human incarnation, the way that we resonate with the vibration of eight, is through the philosophy of like the great sages, you know, which is all the same thing. It's compassion, it's mercy, it's kindness, humility, keeping a clean conscience, you know what I mean? Absolutely. Yeah, It's like when when you think about I don't know, you know, there's this whole idea of like nihilism where people think there's
not really a purpose to anything or whatever. The opposite side of that coin is like, to me, like there's a purpose to everything, and when you think about the world like that, that is the most just cause you know what I mean, Like, that's that that to me equates to the best thing that we could If everything does have a purpose. Love and compassion and understanding and things like that, they are the most meaningful things that there are. Yea, And so why wouldn't that be the purpose? You know
what I'm saying? Right, there's you know, obviously there's always outliers to the sort of thing, but something that basically every living being can agree on is that love feels good. Yeah, it's probably the best feeling there is, like yeah, you know what I mean, Like there's no there's no feeling like loving and being loved. It makes you feel and there's a lot of love. There's romantic love, there's parent and child love, there's friendship
love. Yeah, in in in Greek, there's a different word for each type of love, you know, like like the friendly love, the romantic love, the platonic love. Like see, I kind of like the fact that it's in English. It's all one Yeah, I do. I go into that a little bit. I don't know it just it's like because I guess it's the same, right if you boil it all down, like I
don't know how to explain it the best. But like at the end of the day, it makes you feel the same, like you get, you know, being engaged, like oh man, I'm gonna I'm really gonna do myself a hole here. It's like it's the same, but it's not like it's it's like, you know, I'm gonna do things with my fiance that I wouldn't do with the homies. But like what do you mean really please and like to me, no, but like in like a fulfillment sense,
right, No, No, no, yeah, I understand. It's you feel good, like after hanging out with the homies, you feel good, you feel like loved, You have people around you that you like, you know, and and that's kind of the same. And that's why I guess I like that. It's all one word makes it easy. I understand what
you're saying. It's like, really, if you think about it in an ideal world, like we really should and like, come on, obviously there are some there are some exceptions to this, but we we really should like
love everyone the same. Yeah, you know what I mean. There's no reason that like, okay, for an example, a lot of people will only fully and completely open up to like one person or maybe a couple of people, you know what I'm saying, and you and because of that, you have this like really deep and special love with that person because you you're like, oh my gosh, like they accept me for who I am and like friends or just anything. Yeah, not necessarily a romantic part I would
say. Typically it's probably like the majority of the time, it's probably with a romantic partner that that is your you know person, but like, yeah, okay, for example, like you know, our good buddies Raven and Nathan like they are attached at the hip, like they're that for each other, like they you know what I'm saying, right, idea in an ideal world, shouldn't we be able to do that with everybody? I feel like it's just kind of societal we should. But the problem is not everybody's on.
We just can't trust everybody, you know, Yeah, absolutely, there's there's all these society addle walls that are getting in the way of us being able to just love everybody the same way. And the trust thing is a huge The world out there is not always all good. The unfortunate thing because the only way that this concept works is if everybody is doing right. Well, yeah right, if you had that kind of relationship with any everybody,
what would make their relationship special? We'd all be happy together and freaking kumbaya. I don't know. Yeah, no, I see what you're saying. Yeah, but it's like, but it's like it's kind of like going like dark is dark because light is light. Well no, I mean, I couldn't it be special with everyone? But it's like, what would be special? You could still be closer with some people just naturally because your lives are more aligned. But I feel like generally, like we should be able to
be um careless with our love and our trust that we play. It should be a world In my opinion, it's the only way we'll ever be enlightened as a race, as a species, as a as a you know, a planetary consciousness, when everybody is on the same page. That we have to ultimately be compassionate with the way that we give ourselves to others. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't mean everybody has to be my best friend. Well,
so I think it's like like a baseline. There's like a baseline love and respect that you should give everybody until they give you a reason not to do that. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, but should I approach every relationship like it's a romantic partnership? Probably not, But like should you approach every person with like the same love and respect? I think so? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, And that brings up an interesting point, like
the whole someone giving you a reason not too thing. You know, what do you think do you think that that you should stop giving people a certain level of love and or respect because they're mistreating you, or or should they be the one doing the adjusting? Yeah? I think there's a deeper level
to that. I think the next level of that wisdom is when you give somebody love and respect and they don't return it to you, So you're enlightened, right, hypothetically, you're enlightened, you know the truth that we're beings of light. So you see them and how they're only treating you that way because they're suffering on the inside, right, so you have to feel empathy
for them. That's exactly what I'm saying. It's like almost in some ways, I want to love them more because I'm like, oh, you're hurt. Does it mean you have to give yourself away right and disrespect yourself? Yeah? I feel like there's a difference between like love and being vulnerable, you know what I'm saying, Like, you you can show people real, true, deep nurturing love without making yourself vulnerable or open to be hurt by them. So I don't know, I just that was just like a little
rabbit hole that makes sense to me. Yeah, that was That was just like an interesting little thing that I kind of thought about because, yeah, no, exactly what you said. Like when I when I see somebody and they're like not reciprocating the love or the energy that I'm giving to them, It really just kind of makes me sad for them. I'm just I'm more so just like, oh man, that they're obviously going through a tough time. Yes, And you can show love for people without ever getting involved in
the life facts. You could let people in in traffic. You could just be too nice in social situations. If I I'm the kind of guy man like you know, if I wash my hands in the bathroom, dry my hands in the paper towel hits the floor, I pick it up. You know why, because I don't want that worker who has to come in here and clean it to clean after my selfishness. Yep. You know. It's things like that, like you can you can project. Do you put your
shopping cart back in shopping cart? Yeah? The social test number one, Carnars bro. It's just it's compassion. It's this is something my dad always taught me after his experience, is you have to be able to imagine the suffering of other people and feel for them. Oh you know, and I feel like that's probably the most lacking thing in the entire world. Dude.
That's literally spoiler alert for God of War Ragnarok that's like the whole lesson that Kratos learns from the beginning of the first game to the end of the second game. Beginning of the first game, he's telling a Treis like, close your heart to their suffering. You have to be ruthless, you have to not care about them because you have to take care of yourself and all this
stuff. But then by the end of Ragnarok, he sees how much more pain that causes you inside, and he tells a Treis, open your heart, open your heart to their strength. Yes, it's your strength. That's that's what is That's what makes you strong. Open your heart to their suffering. Be willing to feel their suffering, because everyone will grow from that. Every you'll grow, you'll become stronger. You could potentially lend them in a hand, a helping hand, or extend an olive branch, and everyone will
heal from you opening your heart and not being afraid. If there is something high on the list of concepts that is totally despised by the light and cannot resonate with the light, it's arrogance, it's pride, it's narcissism, it's believing in your brain that you're better than another person, you know, like I really believe and not just because oh you know, oh I talk about Jesus that makes me a Christian. No, no, no, we know
that there's wisdom from Jesus, there's wisdom from Buddha, there's wisdom from this that is that Jesus just has a lot of fire wisdom for sure, you know what I'm saying. And like one of the things he said is like, blessed are the meek and the humble, for they will inherit the kingdom of heaven. And if you really think about that, that's a great parable to live by. It doesn't mean you got to be like a whimp and like not you know, be able to defend yourself and and and and be
a coward. It doesn't mean that. It means like to truly live in the light is to be humble before the divine forces. But also to your neighbor, you know what I mean, Like if they're suffering, surely in this life you can suffer too, right, we all can. I've suffered a lot. I'm sure you've suffered a lot, and you've suffered a lot. Maybe I don't know, Yeah that maybe it was just that was just so good. You gotta switch up on him. Maybe you've suffered. I
don't know. I mean you get a lot of attention from he does get a lot of attention. Yeah, and maybe that's a suffering of its all. Maybe you know, we don't know what it's like in his head's real heavy. Many Yeah, yeah, we had. It's so filled up. Sometimes we have to put vasiline on his head to fit him through the door. Like you know, it's it gets a little big. Sometimes. Why are you Why are you moving off camera? Alex? Why are you moving
off? He's like moving back, lean back, Yeah, no, but I'm serious, Like I remember, is actually ten feet away from Alex right now? I think, um, I think, like sorry, close up there. So what what you said? Though? Have you heard of them? The emotional like the vibration of each emotion and how they relate to one another on your path to enlightenment. I've heard of it, but I've not really, I have not. I'm not familiar with it. Yeah, so
I haven't pulled up here. And so I'm going from the very bottom up to neutrality. We go higher if you want to, but like, so, the lowest vibrational emotion is shame. Then going up from there, it's guilt, apathy, grief, fear, desire, anger, pride. Then you get to courage, then you get to neutrality, and from neutral reality it goes up. So obviously neutrals like the middle ground willingness, acceptance, reason, love, joy, peace, enlightenment. Hm. I'm perplexed by
the courage placement. Why is that? Where was the courage placement again just below neutrality? What I think of neutral You know, like in like philosophy courses in college and religion courses you always learned about like yeah, you know from a professor who doesn't really believe this crap. They're just spitting out like data they talk about like Buddhism. You know, you take an Eastern RELIGIONUS course and it's a very high level overview of like this is what they believe,
is what they believe, and you quiz on it. It's not deep sure, you know what I mean, And it's like, well, in Buddhism you gotta be neutral. You can't like love anything or be positive or this or that. I don't think that's what it really meant though. I think it really meant more along the lines of like detachment from things is the answer to negate suffering, you know, I don't. I don't think it was like neutral, like you gotta be neutral, you can't pick a side,
like I think. I think it's deeper than that. Well, because what you're saying in my head, I feel like he's saying something in your head. Neutrality is so close to apathy. Apathy, I mean, because apathy means like you don't care about anything, you right, So if you're neutral to something, you're neutral to the outcome. You don't care about the outcome. But but here's the thing, like what we're talking about with the Buddhist stuff, the way that I see that type of neutrality is that you
actually care about everything. You care about everything, but you're not attached to any of it. You just you just unbiased, You just care about you accept all outcomes exactly. That's the law of detachment. Actually, it's it's changed my life. Actually, Tom Barber taught me the law of detachment. Oh yeah, and um, it's it's life changing. It's basically like, in order to manifest what you need in life, you have to to be detached from Yeah. Amy talked about that too, did she? I don't
remember Yeah, that's part of your manifestation process. You have to and it's very similar in sales too. You have to be detached from the outcome. Yeah, you can't be so like worried about it, right, Yeah, yeah, law detachment. I believe that's that's very true. It's like it's like the serenity prayer, right, Lord, give me the I don't know the word for word, but like give me the strength to accept the things I cannot change. Right, It's a law of detachment. Wow, you
know that. That is an interesting point though about the apathy thing, Alex. It's like it's almost like there are multiple kinds of neutrality, you know what I mean? Because I feel like you could be neutral in this in like a nihilistic way where you're like, who cares whatever? Yeah, I don't care about anything. Well that's what I'm saying. They're so close,
like they're they're different, but they're so close. So it's interesting to me though, that courageous like courage is below neutral Like it's yeah, that is a little weird, so weird thinking about it. Right, you have courage and you have confidence, and I feel like once you get past that neutrality, you have the confidence. You have confidence in your love, you have confidence in the peace like you you're approaching that as an absolute, but like
to get there, you have to have courage. You have to have like courage to break out of these lower vibrational states of being and get to that neutrality. Yeah, okay, I feel like confidence and courage are are slightly different. Like courage is active, whereas confidence is passive. Right, Like, yeah, does that make sense right, It's like the same difference between knowing and believing. Yeah, believing is like active. You have to actively
believe something. If you know something, it's like it's like automatic faith. You don't have to think about it, you don't have to act towards it. It's kind of it's kind of a similar thing. Good point, courage It requires action, Like that means you are being in the face of something, yes, exactly, whereas confidence like I know it, I'm I'm good, I got it, I know it. It's a it's a it's a similar parallel there, So switching gears. The other thing we talked about the
Full Disclosure episode was light from an actual physical and metaphysical perspective. Like we've talked about this many times on the show. But you know, I think we have a lot of new listeners and it's it's always a fun conversation. But like they've proven that light is conscious, right, you know, they've proven this with the photon double slit experiment. They know now without a shadow of a doubt that if you observe light in the way that it behaves at
the photon level, it changes its performance and its outcome. And actually it can collapse its structure from a particle into a wave, basically denoting that it has infinite functions and reality. It can change its form, it can just become completely different essence at will, as long as it's not being observed. When we the living being, are observing a photon of light, it behaves according to algorithms. You know, you turn on a light, you see
the light. You know, you're looking at the stars. Photons are traveling billions of light years to reach your eyes. They're going straight, so to speak. But when you're not observing them, they don't go straight, they go infinite. What does that mean? Why? Why is that possible? You know what I mean? And like why does it need an observer? Right? And I've come to you know, like a terroidal field. We've talked about this before. It's like it kind of looks like a donut.
It's it's like it's like a magnetic the donut collapsing in on it. Yes, oh yeah, yes, yeah, you started talking donuts, and we talked about this before. I think with Vincent actually on the Vincent episode Shut Off Vincent. We're gonna have him on really soon. Oh I can't wait. Oh my god, he's um, he's gonna come on this summer. But um, we talked about this on his episode. Like the Tree of Life. Actually, remember they show it like above and below in some cases
with the branches and then it goes underground with the roots. A toroidal field because because yeah, and I believe that's truly what reality is. I believe that we exist in a terroidal field of light, and I believe it's constantly like collapsing in and on itself, like when the light is not being observed, it phases out of the rules of reality and just exists infinitely, and then when it's being observed, it's like, oh, guys, together,
the show's one. You know, it's like the magic stage. The show's on. Everybody and the rules happen to give us the illusion of an existing material reality. It's like a magic trick. It's like a big illusion. You know, I think I think we are literally in a matrix of light. Well, I think we are like a big part of that, right, Like it makes me think about how everything is mental, Like magicians need an audience, right, Well, all of this light. If we weren't
here, all of the light would still be here. But the light is the way it is because we are here. Yeah, it's the whole tree falling and no one hears a thing. It's it's the same kind of thing like is it did it even happen? Is it there? It's like, you know, it's a philosophical thing. Did it happen if no one witnessed it? And it's like well, and when you get metaphysical, it's almost
like, well, you know it it happened because you witnessed it. Like literally, yeah, like the we have proof of that, Like light literally behaves differently because you're looking at it. And yeah, if you ask, you know the same thing about like if the tree you know, fell in the forest didn't make a sound, well no, because there was nobody there with the little hair in their ears to observe the waves. But it made waves, right, it produced something, Yeah, but it wasn't observed by
a living being. Sound is defined by when it's perceived. Yeah, I know what everything is when? Yeah, exactly when when those waves are perceived. It's like that's a that's a thing that has been philosophized, which is a real word for you know, a very very very long time. But until the photon split double slit experiment, we didn't know that, like it's actually a thing, like like it really does behave differently when we're looking at
it. So this poses another question. Then if we know and understand, you know, at a basic level that this universe exists the way that it does because it is being perceived the way that it is being perceived, what about when as a species we come together and we start in our minds with our higher senses perceiving the truth about the higher realities, what will we be
able to reach out and grasp Yeah, you know what I mean. It's almost as if we'll have access to like senses that we didn't know existed, that we didn't have, and that is how we are going to evolve. I truly believe the way that we're going to evolve in the Age of Aquarius is going to be a mental thing. We're not going to be having like six arms and forget right. You know, I got a third eye antent on my head, like I dang it. He's like, I want a
third leg fourth. My dad made a joke to me a few weeks ago. Dad made a serious It was a joke, but it was like kind of serious. He was like, I think Teddy's gonna be um levitating things when he's older. And I'm like, what do you mean. He's like, well, Son, I mean, you know, as as more people become aware of the lights, are abilities are going to progress as a as a species. I mean, it's the domino effect. It's like they've proven
it's called morpha genetic residence. I think it was Rupert Sheldrake who proved this one. They had like it was monkeys or rats or something like that. I mean, I'm not a scientist. I'm just talking concepts here, you know. But they would take these rats and they would put them in a specific type of maze, and then around the world or other rats would start
being able to rapidly solve. There was something about monkeys. It's like monkeys all around the world are pop up, starting to be able to use tools. How's say, Rupert Shell Drake, Did I get that one wrong? You know you're spot on? Okay, good morpha genetic resonance. Yeah.
I also, I don't know why when you started talking about your dad for some reason, I thought you were you were keying up a joke, and need started talking about this, I'd serious, Yo, Do you know the thing another example of what you're talking Well, it's a it's a little different than the morpha genetic resonance, I think. But do you know about like coral and the weird telepathy that coral has? Okay, so let me see.
Oh yeah, I remember. So the same species of coral, they have an extremely uh they have an extremely precise process for the way that they
release It's like equivalent to like spores, how they kind of reproduce. It's not on the same day every year, it's it's not even on the same month every year, but when it happens, every coral on the planet that is of that same species of coral release spores instantaneously, meaning you could take you could literally go out to the ocean right now, get a piece of coral, go on the other side of the planet from it, and when the coral where you got it from spore, the one that you took across
the planet will sport instantaneously. So that's wild just because of the differences, right, I mean, temperature differences, altitude pressure. Yeah, there's there's so many variables. That's it's like telepathy, yeah, or like I don't even know what to call it. But they tapped in. They're tapped in. It's instantaneous. It's not like, oh, the same day, it's like but which that alone would be crazy, Yeah, already because you know there's not a set day or time during the year that they do it,
but like instantaneously all around the planet. What if it's like ripples from outer space where like you have these energies of these stars and they just like send out a wave and the wave hits the planet and the corals like up there it is. I think I think that what you're saying not exactly about the corals maybe, but I think what you're saying is true about these cosmic alignments and when there's energy shifts, and y'all can't tell me that things haven't been
pretty crazy since March twenty third. Things have been very crazy since for us as a group and what you know, at just everything we know, and I mean, it's it's been it's been a huge shift and my life has flipped upside down like twice since then. Yeah, so you're right side up now, I'm right side up. I'm right side up. We're feeling good.
Yeah, honestly, I mean, I do think that happens. I think it's like an energy from the stars, and there's major shifts that permeate our auras as living beings, and it just it changes us from the inside out. But yeah, think about that though, like with morph genetic resonance, and and and they're being evidence that as certain groups, you know, in each particular specie you know, monkeys, rats, corals, humans, whatever, as some groups evolved in around the world, it starts popping up,
popping up rapidly. What's going to happen when we as a human race start figuring out collectively the truth about these lights. Yeah, I think it's going to be like light speed. Yeah. And Yeah, something I've kind of like like passively observed is it feels like the human version of that sort of morpho genetic resonance. It feels like we as humans we pick up on
those things like at birth. It almost it's almost like we wait for the life death cycle before that that like subtle evolution occurs, if that makes sense. It's like it's it's why you know, generations of humans are so similar around the planet, Like there are these in eight like inherent similarities in people
all over the planet that we're born around the same time. It feels like and you know, if you think about if you think about like like occult stuff and and mystical studies and stuff, it's that's when that's when the evolution of soul occurs. Is when you pass from this life to your next life. That's when like those lessons are really like ingrained, like stamped onto your soul, you know what I'm saying, or your skin or your or your skin. In Alex's case, he has a he has a freaking knife wound
on his guts. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a real theory that um I think we talked about that, but that's a real theory. Like a lot of like crazy birthmarks on people could be like wounds from previous lives. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, and it like the way Vincent told me, it was like this is here so that you don't act like an assholem that was his words. I mean that that is
one of the most remarkable things I've ever witnessed. Benson was just like, yeah, do you have like any birthmark, like on your stomach, and Alex was like yeah, it's like yeah, I know, it's you were stabbed. It's like, huh, you know there, there is there's stuff
there, there is something major there. Yeah. I feel like I feel like we as humans we kind of like pull collectively from the knowledge of all humans prior to us when we're born, and it's like those lessons get imprinted onto us, whereas other species like rats, coral, whatever, it happens more rapidly. Yeah. Maybe it has something to do with, like, you know, think about our lifespan versus a rats lifespan. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying, two years versus you know, seventy right. Yeah, Well, we're also a little bit more complex than coral and rats. Yeah, it might be part of that. Their evolution is like finishing amazed to find cheese. Yeah, ours just like trying to understand the pain and the woes of death and grief. And yeah, the rats got it easy, bro like mastering our temptations. The rats got I like some cheese. Now, you know, I've been fond of mazes. I've known I've been
known to enjoy a good maze. Rats are very sweet, man. I loved our pet rats. They were They were very They just want to lick your hands, and they're very nurturing, loving animals. They never bite. I mean, I'm sure in the wild, you know, rats would bite. But your pet rats they're they're very kind and I never got to meet them. Yeah, rats, it was pretty It sucked when they died. Man, I had a mouse for a day a day. Would you do something like on a book, a children's book, The Mouse who Stole the
Cookie? Yeah, yeah, yeah, when you gave the mouse a cookie? Yeah yeah yeah. What do you mean you don't know the story? No, okay, tell us the story. No no, no, no, no, tell us the story. All right. Well, I went to the pet store and got one of the mouse's mice that they feed to uh snakes, And so I just bought one. It was like two dollars. Carried them around all day. Kept in a little shirt pocket. When you do with him, where is he now? At the end of the
day, I let him go. Oh he's good for sure. Oh yeah. He was a white white not even a field mouse. No, yeah, he had no shot. Let him go. How old were you? This is like a couple of years ago, dude, you cannot tell me. It's cruel people bought they would have bought that mouse to feed to a snake. Yeah. I gave it the best day of its life. Yeah, the chance, dude. You want to hear something funny. We went to pet Smart recently, just like pick up cat food or whatever, and
we were there and they had like it was an adoption day. They had all the cats out. I was like, oh, look at all the cat We're just looking at him whatever. We got back out to the car and we start driving home and Casey like screamed when when we were driving down the road, it freaked me out. Dude. I almost like pulled the wheel a little bit. And she pointed at the windshield and on our like like on the hood of our car, right where the crack of the hood
is, there was a little tiny mouse. I guarantee it was one of those mice from bed smart and he escaped. Bro, he escape, He got away. And I don't know if I ever told you all about this boat. When I was a lifeguard, I actually um saved field mouse out of the pool. Oh really, Yeah, everybody had to get out of the pool. There was a mouse swimming in the pool, and I got the little skimmer net and took it and dropped it back in the wild. You didn't jump in with the with the float. No, give him the
life saver. Ye, tiny little mouse the size of my palm in a giant pool. Like y'all don't carry around tiny little life savers. You could have used a gummy life saver. That could I used the the you know, the skimmers. Yeah. Yeah, I just picked it right up and threw him. No, I walked him to the grass and put him in the wall. I think Jeremy did it. We were both lifeguards at the same time, my brother Jeremy. Yeah, he did it, and I helped him. I think he actually put it in the woods. But was
that your only career save? No? I saved the toddler who almost dropped. Oh man, that's that's cool. Yeah, he had a little you know how like little kids can have those, Like it's like a little onesies that are floaties. Yeah, And it was like I had a life card like eight in the morning for a little preschool group to let three year old swim, and this little kid was stuck upside down in his little floaty suit in the like daycare instructor was off somewhere else, like she would have never
seen that kid. He was in the corner I had. Oh my god, he definitely could have drowned. Oh my god, good thing you were there, bro. Oh dude, whoa you talk about like your heart's pounding? Yeah like this. Oh my god, that's a young baby. Oh whoa yeah. So that On that note, I just want to do a PSA. Never with your small children, never buy them blue or white bathing suits because it's hard to see in the water. You can if they're at the bottom of the pool, you cannot see. Oh so this is getting
dark. When when we were talking about the morpha genetic resonance stuff it, I also thought about my celium. You know that, like the way that they pass information is with light. No, what are you talking about? If you look at like videos, they have these special like lenses and things where you can you can see like the motion and the weirdness of my celium. There's literally like little beams of light shooting through them, like oh, it kind of like um kind of like neurons, Yes, but it's like
electrical impulses. But yes, they communicate like with little tiny, little like balls of light or like little blits of light. You can see them shooting through. It's as above so below right, So like if if if we exist in the material world, but like the real world is the higher world of light. I believe. I believe that there are multiple dimensions of existence
that that all mirror each other. And like where there's a molecule world that carries consciousness, maybe that's DMT, and maybe there is a plant world that carries consciousness as well, maybe that's my celium. Yeah. Well, also, you know, they're discovering within the past like twenty years, they're they're discovering that like humans, like we are fungal beings, like like we are
we are largely compared eyed of of fung like we we're basically fungus. It's really really I've watched a couple of documentaries recently, like that Fantastic fung guy one. And then there's also that guy that's all over the internet. Yes he's in that right, Yes, that's his yea, Yes, I've been watching a ton of his stuff and like, you know, I don't remember, I can't quote it off the top of my head, but he essentially laid everything out to suggest or really to to imply that like we we are
fungal. We're walking talking fungal beings. That's crazy. Yeah. So going back to the as above so below thing that ties back into the browniean motion thing, because Brownie brown not Brownie and brownies brown suspended pollen spores in water and they started swirling and like moving, and then Einstein theorized that that's what's happening with the particles. Well, that they're vibrating. Right, that's proven man, And like I think think Tesla was right with the energy frequency vibration.
And I think that you know, when these things are pondered and meditated on, I think that it gives us keys to understand the higher realities, you know, And like my interpretation of things is that there We talked about this on episode seven a full disclosure at this point, currently it's not out, but it will be by the time this episode airs. Um, we'll
probably be at like episode ten and full disclosure by then. But um, we talked a lot about like God and about oh, the discrete separation between layers of reality, my interpretation based on esoteric studies, just like what the beings have communicated to Dad, just like really thinking about it and pondering with like as above so below and you know, the emerald tablets and just all of this knowledge. You know, I'm just kind of trying to picture what
it seems like. I feel like in the layer of reality that we are in now, I don't think we're at the very bottom. I think we're somewhere in the middle. I think when you really think about it, Earth is the crossing place between way higher and way lower realms. I think this is like you could almost say, it's the middle chakra of a celestial being, which is also what the heart chakra, right, Yeah, you know Roy and then G Yeah, the heart and then BIV. Well, I
think that's symbolic of something really going on here. No, I'm dead serious, Alex is laughing. No, No, I'm just laughing in the way you did. But G is the center, the heart chakra, is the dead center, you know, yeah, well there's seven maybe not quite, but it is the dead center roy g b I v oh there you go. Yeah, it's also interesting that it's a g I know. Yeah,
it's like it's it's coincidence. Probably not, but you know, well, you know it's funny that you're saying that now, because when we were just talking about the mycelium thing, I was thinking, Okay, so there are nebulas in space that look identical to the layout of neurons. Yeah, right, yeah, and then there are these tiny little mycelium that are like the layout of neurons. And we're in the middle. We're in the middle. We're in the middle. That's the above is the nebulas. The below literally
below our feet, I see, and we are the middle. Oh okay, yeah, that's that's wonderful. Weird. Yeah, that is very weird. I can't believe you just brought up that whole middle thing. Like I was just thinking that. We'll think about it. What is the most this is not a truth, yes, sorry, I'm not. I'm dude. Honestly, what is the most popular symbol of all time? Uh? The cross? Oh sure, yeah, cross about we're in the crossing place dam
between higher physical and material and spirit. What does that mean? I believe it means that we come here to learn how to reignite that spiritual heart center or resonate with light, you know what I mean? Green? The color green is the strongest light frequency band. It's the brightest. That's whether you keep showing green lasers at a you know, an airplane, it's a federal crime. Why why not? Why not a red laser? It won't reach.
Yeah, yeah, I want to. It's it's green lasers, you know, just playing a sample, and green is the strongest um light. Oh dude, Now this brings up another cool topic. You know, my dad has friends in NASA, just casual things, and one of them recently was having a chat with my dad and he sent him some videos, their public videos. I can't I don't know how to find them. I could
try, but it's not like it top secret or anything. But it was NASA studies and they have found a code hidden in the green light that comes from the sun that programs all biological life to live, you know, the chlorophill and the plants resonate with this light. Everything, I mean, the food we eat, the plants we eat are absorbed this light. The animals we eat not only are they absorbing it too, they're eating the plants that
are absorbing it. Everything has this light in it. We've talked about this. You've brought this up on the show. When a sperm and egg meat. There's a flash of light. If you take a blood cell, a tiny little speck of blood and a petri dish and you light it, which is scientific term for like making the cell explode. Yeah, like make it just basically pop. Yeah, it's a flash of light. Oh, come on, it's all light. I believe we are literally in a matrix of
light. He Neo said it in the Third Matrix movie said, when he do you remember like he takes that he goes blind. He fights the agent Smith that took over a human's body, possessed him. He gouges his eyes out, so then he blindfolds, and then he becomes even deeper into enlightenment. He can sense everything around him. He literally goes to the Machine City and he faces he gets face to face with the Matrix and he's looking around. He's like Trinity, it's a whole light. And then then he makes
a deal with the matrix. Yeah, I don't know if you I don't know if it's been a while since you've seen it. But he makes an actual deal with the matrix that basically he will sacrifice himself to reset the entire matrix on Jesus ship. And then it literally shows him on a cross of light. Yeah, oh my god, wow, I totally forgot. He's like crucified on a cross of light. And then he goes and he fights Agent Smith and he sacrifices himself. They fight, they you have like a
cool Hollywood fight scene. But then in the end he beats him by letting Agent Smith kill him. He does the Jesus thing or the Buddha thing, He does the pacifist compassionate sage route, and he lets Agent Smith beat the fuck out of him. Yeah. Remember. Yeah, And it's like it's it's you know, it's programming. Yeah, you mean, like they esoteric program they're putting the symbolism in our in the realm of the unconscious mind.
Yeah, you know. And I always ponder if it's intentional or if it is unconscious in the person who is creating it, Like if it's just the universe doing it through them. I think both, right, I think both, but on a movie on that level, yeah, probably intentional probably, and like they're known to be into vary occult stuff. Oh yeah. And then they made Cloud Atlas, which is about reincarnation come on now, and Jupiter Ascending, which is all about that too, yep, which is all
about like a Luminati blood lines conquering planetary civilization. You no, but I've researched it. I haven't seen that. It's a well known like Luminati, like they drink blood to stay immortal forever, and it's got a lot of that kind of like harvesting blood. And is that newer or older than Cloud Outlas newer? Oh it's a few years ago. Oh shoot twenty fifteen or fourteen or size pretty rich. That's the one of the Waikowski Yeah, okay, sick dang watch that. Yeah, I mean I haven't seen it.
Yeah, I'm down to watch it. Would do an episode on it. Yeah. We still want to do Cloud Outlasts too, we do, we do. I'm totally down to do that. But I mean, shoot, it's like next time we do a reincarnation themed episode, it's like, I just want to talk about Zelda bro Maybe by next time we meet, I don't want to commit to beating it, right, Yeah, we'll take our time. I want to milk that game as long as it took me two years to finally beat Breath of the Wild. Yeah, feel me. Yeah,
it won't take me two years this time. But you know, shout out Olivia, shut Olivia. Yeah that game is amazing. Oh and you know you were also talking about the green light that oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that like organizes light and everything. Dude. All the shrines in in Tears of the Kingdom green they start as those little green rocks and then you know what I mean, Well, think about it. All the shrine
quests where you have to like create the shrine. It starts with green crystals, yes, and then it turns into a shrine of light, and then you're blessed by these ancient stages who give you crystallized orbs of light. And yeah, when you get to the end of these shrines, there's literally like effigies of like a divine feminine and masculine figure. Like it's so on the
nose, it's so on the nose. Yes, it's like the divine masculine and feminine or right in front of you blessing you with an orb of light? What are we doing when Zoe? When Zelda goes into the orb of light? Maybe I don't want to spoil it, come on, hey, no, just minor spoils. We're gonna do it. Spoiler. It's a minor spoiler for Tears of the Kingdom. Yeah, min um. When Zelda
goes into these orbs of light, she travels back into the past. That's kind of you don't know that getting into the game and it's like what, but um, you figured it out pretty quick, bro. She goes into the orb and she's traveling through dimensions. Literally, it's not like saying that you know, but it's happening. Yeah, you're seeing it. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's the cool thing about that is like they don't they don't tell you, but you see, you're not like this is orbs and the
who knows that they even know about all this stuff? Right, but it's pretty it's on the nose. Yeah, it's on the nose. You see it all happen, dude. The freaking the race of like, uh, what are they called? Zona? Are that what the like rau z? Yeah? They have third eyes? Do they? You didn't I didn't notice that it's closed. Wow, there's there's literally a golden eyelash right here. It's probably gonna open. Yeah, we haven't seen all the memories yet.
Bro, next time you see. Next time you play and you see look right there. Wow, it's not tiny, it's like big. It's like it's a full third eye right there. It's just closed. Wow. Yeah, this game is enlightened. So back to the green light thing. So what else did NASA prove in their studies? They proved that five hundred and twenty eight hurts resonates with the frequency of the color green. Really, yes,
the green light from the sun. It's almost like it's almost like the life forces inside of this frequency, you know, and from the sun. It is programming our DNA to thrive and to live and to for life to grow on the planet. Whoa, it's kind of crazy that you just said it that way, because that song I showed you last night is the chorus says We're engineered to thrive from contortionists. Yes, yeah, yeah, the song is called Thrive. The lyric is We're engineered to thrive. Yeah.
That's kind of that's pretty crazy, that's kind of sick, like when you when you put it that way, there are this this realm that we're in is truly magnificent. It's weird, it's weird, it's truly magnificent in every way. There is a giant orb of light in the sky beaming down programming frequencies that go into our bodies and make us who we are, Like it's weird, and we eat food that's soaking up these fencies. You know, this radiation or what you could call a radiation. You couldn't write a better
video game if you want it to. Yeah, exactly, honestly, Yeah, yeah, But I just I don't know, maybe thinking two out of the box, but I tend to think that we on an individual like each human. Right, there's multiple levels of the cosmos here. You've got planetary logos is, You've got cosmic entities like the Sun. I mean, everybody knows about the sun, you know, it's why we're here. Everybody knows about the moon. Not everybody knows about the three of us in this room
or anybody else out there. You see, there's levels of existence, and I feel like us, this human race, we are special souls that are climbing through those realms. This is what the Rosicrucians kind of indicate too, this is where I'm getting this from, and that those realms might be like the chakras of some higher transcendent entity, some some logos type being that is a godlike mind or complex. Maybe it's raw, maybe it's the sun.
Maybe it's the consciousness of the sun. And like I feel like where we are now our life and earth, is that we are in the middle. I mean, it's green. Everything here's basically green, right, you know they except for the water of course, but you know the plants, you look at the you look from the sky, it's it's the water and then it's green. Yeah, it's all life is encoded to be green from the green light from the sun. You know, the heart chakra is green.
I believe we come here to learn love, compassion. It's it's the actions and the emotions that I believe, in a metaphorical metaphysical sense resonate with the literal vibration of light. The sage shit, you know, love thy neighbor, if you see somebody suffering, help them, all that stuff. That's that's my understanding of light and why it's so important. And we're kind of
yeah, we got a few more minutes. So I think when you know this knowledge and you choose not to resonate with the light and you choose to turn a blind eye to it, the karmic devastation is greater, you know, because now you know, but you're choo using to harm other life. It's like blasphemy. It's kind of yeah, like the cardinal sin kind of
thing, you know. I always heard, like, I don't know if you ever heard this, but I always heard growing up, like the one unforgivable splashmy of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit's like turning your back on the Holy Spirit, turning your back on God or whatever. It's like, that sounds very similar to me when you say like karmic devastation, that's you know, that's what they called that unforgivable. Yeah, and the Bible it says
the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. But who knows what that really means exactly? You know? Yeah, I don't. I don't think really anything is unforgivable. Maybe you will have to reincarnate a lot of lives until you get it right, you know, But anyway, who are who are we to know? Exactly. Maybe it's unforgivable in this lifetime. Yeah, I mean I really don't know. I can't I can't fathom. Yeah, what it really means? I can't buy them? Remember that?
What was this? Somebody? Yeah? Is that video of the New Year's thing? We were talking about Chinese New year and everything, and you were like, I can't buy have them on the show. Yeah, okay, yeah, we're talking about Chinese New Year's. Yeah, well that's just New Year's in China. Yeah, it's the same day, I swear it is. Why is there on a different day? Are they? Are they more advanced than we are? Yes? Yes, bro, that's why they're more
advanced than us. Shoot, that makes sense. I think I covered everything I was interested in covering. Was was there anything else y'all wanted to No? No, that was sick. That was awesome. I love talking about this. It's very abstract. It's very like it's almost like the that light is like equivalent to like the force. It's in everything. Yes, And I remember something I was going to say earlier, and then we start um going into another tangent. I believe, you know, the discrete levels of
separation between realities. I think that at the very high, if we could just take our human mind and release the limitations and fathom as high as possible and then go even farther than that, all the way to the top of what consciousness is. I believe it really is just an eternal, infinite white light. Literally, I think it's just white light. Yeah. I think that it is pure spiritual wave, no particles, no knock on wood,
material shit necessary. I think it is just light. And I think we are so far down from that that we're looking up and we're seeing the light up there in the cosmos, and it's it's it just seems so far away. We can't you know, reach up and touch it. But our I think our souls come from there, and through lifetimes we you know, go
back there. But I think that there are souls like the orbs and the beings, the entities where you could say, the masters or whatever, who come back here to like guide us on our progression there, you know what I mean. But to us, to our little material forms, they look like lights. Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's like our souls are longing for that, like longing to get back to that light. And when we
reach enlightenment, maybe that's when we become those little lights. Maybe maybe I tend to think so, and I think, um, I think if you really think out of the box, all of the discernible realities are all crafted, or you could say, come from that one original higher light, and like everything in the known universes or multiverse or whatever, I think all comes from the very same original place. That Yeah, that that resonates with me, like I feel like my intuition tells me that's true. I just feel
like everything comes from the same place. You know. It's like every living being on this planet sees that sun, that same sun every single day, that one source, that one big everything in this solar system does. Yeah, good point. Every I mean, if there's life on Mars, they have the same sun. That's true, you know what I mean, it's given them life too. So yeah, I mean I didn't even think about
it like that, but you're right. Yeah, everything in this entire solar system, every living being, from the most tiny microscopic thing to a celestial body like like a planet, everything sees that same big light in the sky every single day, and it gives all of us life. Yeah. That's pretty that's pretty profound. It's pretty hard to imagine. It is, it's it's it's near unfathomable, unfathomable. Can't I fathom witholdout being judged. I
just like how you like. But you know, it's it's really cool to think about. I think we're probably, like you know, a part of a collective of some ascended cosmic being, and we're just the whole point is where we're in the cross. We're in the center. It's love, it's the heart center. It's also the intersection between spirit matter. I think you know when you when you learn this lesson, and actually this is true in
Esotericism and Hinduism and Tibetan Buddhism, etcetera, etcetera. All of these ancient systems public and secret that teach about chakras, they say the same thing. The heart chakra is the doorway to the higher spiritual chakras, because then you have the throat, the third eye, and the crown. These are spiritual, whereas the previous chakras are about certain like inherent energies, like you know, the root is material security, um, yes, material Jesus, material
security, physical needs being met, things like that. The um the sacrel is like emotional energy. Um, the the solar plexus is like your confidence in your persona. You know, the heart is love, and then the throat is like projecting your will and your energy out into the realm. The third eye is like seeing through the illusions of the material realm. You see what I'm saying that the spiritual chakras are projections outward through the illusions of the
material. The crown connected with all cosmic consciousness. So, like, I think as a human race, when we get past this level, you could say, maybe when we you know, hit the age of Aquarius and there's some awakening type stuff going on, I think we're going to progress in what we are capable of mentally. Yeah, like those those chakras will evolve those chocolate or maybe our relationship with those chokras will yeah yeah, and we'll be able to perceive things differently. Yeah. Yeah, I think so, I
feel that that's dope. One one more little thing I thought about is you know, like, um, what's the name of those cables that use light to transmit information. Fiber optic, Yeah, fiber optic. So we know that light can hold data. It's like souls are light. Yeah, We're we're pulling up threads here that are like this is too much. Yeah. Yeah, like souls like whole holds the data, you know, the light holds the data of our soul. I don't know. That just kind of
like appeared in my mind while you were talking about that. It's a great point. It's just weird. It's it's it's very weird. It's everything is light, there's light in everything. Light literally holds data. It's like spirit is light. Yeah, you know, I think I think that literally light is consciousness, right, you know what I mean? Yes, and vice versa exactly. I think we are light. Yeah, we just are so far removed from how it is truly perceived or how it is when it is
not needing to be perceived. Yes, like we're so we're so far down in the illusion of separation, but like we are still that light in our truest form. Facts. You know, bro, I think that's a great place to end it. Facts you guys, gb GBS with the Green Boar. Yeah, we got a comment the other day on YouTube, but it made me giddy. It was like the Green Boys always deliver. Yeah we have. We haven't talked about the Green Boys and probably like eight months and
Green Boys. Yes we are and we are here to deliver. Okay, bye, guys. Weird things happened in the backyard of what so house? Just send. I got so weird coming closer to my heir statestright up, like spiraling on the inside of it. No one knows. Wow, come right ever time Shine being happy