BIG FACTS FRIDAY- Never Say Never

get it getting in the gym, Yeah kind of. I ain't drinking no stealcie as yet. Okay, you need your booster What the hell is booster? Okay, but that ship hips with your math? Well, I ain't even get them folks out of that right there where I tell y'all. Yeah, Jake, what's what's the word? I'm a really Gucci? You know you know who for no Gucci? Wait two thousand four? She no big Cat? Well how did the verse goes? Yeah?

By Simpson? Gucci? What's saw my mind to day? When you was talking about some kind of cool before we lolled on? I think we could we could build off of that, Yes, for sure. So basically Um. What I was talking about is there is a black hair care and skincare cosmetics line UM called MEO Organics, UM, and they fucking blew out of the water because black women were raving about how their products were actually effective on every aspect of the black woman, like the natural hair,

the fucking natural skin. You know what I'm saying that the stuff, all the stuff the black women go through, like MEO had basically found a remedy for it, and um, recently, well I don't want to say recently, but a few months ago, there was a Caucasian woman that made a TikTok using the Meal products. And once the Caucasian woman made the TikTok, all of the rest of the Caucasian women started buying the products and it sold out everywhere, so there was not no more Meal nowhere for the

black women. And the discussion on Twitter was that black women felt like, Okay, this was another thing that was misappropriated by the Caucasian people and taking away from the African American people. I just want to yes, who created the project the product again as a black woman? Right? Yes? Man? Okay, my bad man. Sorry, I'm sorry. You know what I'm saying like, look, a black woman created a product. Yes, so can you create a product and stop anybody from

buying the product? No? But the thing is is that I guess it could in quite Caucasian women could have been using it forever, but it didn't blow up on a national scale, the attention that Caucasian people were bringing to it until this lady made this TikTok and then it's sold out allegedly because of the Caucasian purchase. But here's a here's the here's the even bigger picture to

the ship. Here's the kicker. So. Um, also, not too long ago, a few weeks ago or whatever, she actually sold the company to Procter and Gamble, which is, you know, they produced like all of the household products whatever whatever, and they're also owned by Caucasian people. Um but um. But as far as as far as the African American community is concerned, um, A lot of them, based off of poles and things online, feel like she sold out and she didn't care about her legacy and she didn't

care about you know how. They're going to change her formulas and switch it up for mass production, which means that it's no longer gonna work for the African American people that supported her and got her to the point to where she was able to sell she said, the whole company. Yes, So I got two questions ahead, a ready questions? Shoot, all right, Oh, did Dion Sanders sellout? He stayed down at an hbc U for three or four years. You know what I'm saying. Help you want

me to play devil's advocate. Okay, so devil's advocate on on one hand, you could say my personal opinion. So my personal opinion, I feel like his situation is the same thing with every other situation is going on in the world today. If he gave his Jackson State team knowledge that he was going to do this and that this was coming up, and they weren't blindsided by it, then I don't think that he sold out. How you

owe somebody that's a lord for your life. Though a lot of those a lot of those people came, a lot of the kids that came to that team came there because of him. Now he didn't he didn't have a no. He did have a conversation with them at the end of the season before new committing started in everything like that, saying look, this is what it is, I did what I did here, I fin'ly gonna do this. He it is what it is. But we still don't go out that before he made the decision. No, he

didn't do that before he made a decision. But I was saying, like, do we if we had to? I guess in our heart. You know what I'm saying, good hearted, Yes, we keep people in mind for our decisions, but as grown ups, we don't necessary really have to know. I'm not saying that's necessarily have to but if if if these if if, okay, just just just say, like, I'm I'm um Dion, and you're fucking the Jackson State team.

If your life decision or whatever coming here, anybody need to get his little spill to Louis at Louis is not a sell out, y'all. Okay, So like, if I'm Dion and your Jackson State, right, you're the team and the school and all that ship, um, and my whole reason for committing to this entity or to this university whatever is me and that means that I'm here solely

for your guidance. I'm here solely for your participation. I'm here solely because of the promises that you made me of how you're gonna better me and further my career and my education and all the ship whatever whatever. I feel like you you don't necessarily owe an explanation to anybody, but you owe me some kind of something which we don't know the time. But but the time you would there, did you get more shine than you would have got? And we don't know. We don't know personally what he

said on the phone. He might have He might have texted folks from half I said, funk what I said funk the mood that I'm making for my family. Did you or did you not accomplish something at Jackson State that you wouldn't accomplished nowhere else? Yes or no? He gave them folks three years the volte need to pay me.

You know what I'm saying, that's that's understandable. But I'm just saying, as far as the people that came there on his word, like, I feel like some sort of something needed to be had so that they can decide and make a decision as to whether or not they want to stay or they want We don't know if he did. We'll never know that. Now. That's what my my opinion is he's depending upon that. Here's my next question, alright,

because we're talking about something. But I think being up on the d N, no matter how long you'd be up on the d N, you got something that you ain't gonna ever bed to getting nowhere else. I agree with being in the locker room with d. He gave them board some ship that they're gonna never bear to get, no, that they're gonna take with the rest of their life. And and and you can't pay for that, yeah, and and and somebody who's used to living in a certain

city a certain way actually went and did that. And he didn't have to do that. And then like he was like hurting for money, he didn't have to do it. He chose to go do it for three years with h he took it well with him, No them, he took out quarterback. Yeah. So here we go, all right, ship show j D cakes right, all right, Now the folks come with a big bag of money, saying some

propting Gavil type folks, we want these entities. Right, So what do you do if ten ms are better comes and it's going to some folks, that's gon turn the ship show into another type of ship show what it is. What it is ain't know saing things selling because at the end of the day, when you create a business, the building, to me, the ultimate goal is to sell the business. No matter what we start, they're coming to get j Da Case. They're gonna get you timms, but

the jdkse ain't gonna taste like Jada Case. I don't know what. I'm just trying. I'll just try to get clarity. So we'll give you what you want. We'll give you fifty jade, but we're gonna change some ingredients. We'll still how your face on it if you want. I don't want my face on it if it's not gonna taste the same. But the name Turner, they can keep the name, get it, but you gotta post it. That's part of the money. We want you to endorse it and marry

it because we know that's culturally. How are you pleasing the same motherfucker you pleasing could have could have been the same mother. Like I'll said about the lady while she wants selling out with the with the people who she was being a good question like I'm just being one. I mean, it almost was just like niggas. Niggas and rappers. You ain't been to see niggas jumping around at your shows. You're going the white ball gonna jump around at your shows.

The ultimate goal is to dude, coachya all a little in the big ship, right. Ain't no black motherfucker's in them crowd jumping around or buying your merch? How are you gonna get on the popular charts? So I think niggas ain't gonna get you on the popular charge, bro. So I think it's too I think it's two ways to look at all this ship, my opinion, right, two ways to look at it? Am I right? A wrong? What's selling out supposed you're supposed to make a business.

You're supposed to make a business for the purpose of progressing and maybe eventually selling it. But I think there's some people do have a point where they say, some people might be well to use the word sell it out, but they might be giving it a little too quick. Okay, they're just like Pinky cod We're gonna take Sletty Vigan, man, she wanted tell a shotside of the pinky mad if she wanted to just keep Sletty Vigan. I want to just keep it. Uh. Culturally, in just for me. No,

I'm just saying just an avenue. I mean, what does it edge whenever? Okay, now it's I think she did. She did something to well a ship for them to be like McDonald's, like the open the motherfucker's up everywhere. So do I keep this like a mom and pop or do I syndicate my ship choir? Which is debating? Okay, well,

let me ask out this. I got another example. Okay, So y'all remember um the family in California that was suing California about a beach that their family owned, like in the nineteen twenties or the nineteen tens, and they finally won the case in California had to give them the hundred million acres of land or something like that for the beach that their family owned. Okay, so you know, just recently they sold the beach back to the state

of California for like a hundred something million dollars. So again there was a whole big discussion and the whole big thing of about them being sellouts because they fought so hard to get their family's legacy back just to resell it back to the same people that had a press to get in the money man, y'all like what I think. Let me let me tell you what I think of sellout is right? If I say own whatever it is right, I say I will never And that's how build a rally mind t I will never do that.

I'll never sell this to them, folks. I'll never do it. And you stand on that and it be gets big and all these people are supporting you because like babe, I'll never sell the ship show. This ship is gonna be this forever. J d K is gonna be this, but I'll never you stand on it. Did you do it? That's gonna sellout ship? I can't really say that. I would never until they see it. What they see I never thought. I never thought that they would say. I'm

not saying it's a bad thing all the way. If I nigga say I'll never signed a record deal, I'm indie. I'll never signed with the folks. I'm good, and he go do it, You're gonna look at them different. You just went back on his word. I feel like to me, I wouldn't like I have to go to the urban and look at that. I feel like, to me, selling out is if you do something morally but these people think that signing the record deal is morally there's business. To me, they feel I don't feel like you can

sell out in business me personally business business. I feel like you could sell out morally. You can sell out your people. What you mean? It could be a rap group saying we're not ever gonna go sign with them folks, me and you bro, we're gonna do this right, and then somebody wake up and then this person's and signals ain't no. But that's making business personal. No, you, that's making business. And that's the same thing that I was

saying with Diana Jackson stage. There's business, you know what. I'm a person who portrays a cause, organization or the like the trader. Hello. So if me, if we all on the same page for something, it almost go kind of similar to some street person that's not personal. It becomes personal. If I say, right now screen, do you fat want to buy this ship for me? Not what you want to do? You be like, hey, I'm not brother this ship in my heart, but like you crazy,

my boy? What did you sell the how I'm selling out? Know what I'm saying is if you if you if you have done I don't agree with you. If you're selling out to me, you're selling me out, because that's what I when I got big, and I would just throw it out, just to throw names out. When what is it called? Because I don't think so Jesus sell out jeezy young Jesus. I'm just saying, like he jeezy, he ain't got a hundle niggles with him right now. What I'm saying you talking about did you sell out

like a group of was with us something? You know? I'm saying, like, yeah, like a group whoever always say ship barsing hood. Yeah, but he was, That's what I'm saying. So, but I'm saying, did he make a decision for his life? That's cool? But some people be like man, not on here day one with him? I see where you're trying to go. Ain't no trying to go. I'm just being real, But I'm saying that I don't. I don't. I wouldn't necessarily call that selling out. I would call that. That's

what I'm saying. So if I say, if I'm in a mind state, it goddamn twenty two years old saying I never signed a record deal and I'm thirty three, and the folks saying that's just like Nika said. I never said my masters the maxed out all this folks. I'm telling me, they want to give me two on a million for look at the water right there, look at the water. Let's say, listens, not things have changed. Let's say. Let's say let's say that's bankwater, right, and

how you make bankwater is healing. It heals people excellent and blood pressure and diabetes and all that ship. And you stand on this water and you make a hundred thousand dollars and you're selling the water. Okay, whatever, right, And then the folks come and say, because now you have a cause. You stand on this water, you're healing people. You stand by this water, you tell people the way I'll make this water. I can't tell y'all, but I'm

making this water and they heal people. Then the folks come and say, well, we want to get in on this water, but we're gonna have to change some of them. Almost almost let them do it. But I'm gonna let my people know that these people are changing the ingredients. I don't. I gotta step part of getting the money is to sign that in da saying I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do That's what I'm saying. That's why not just for to come give you no

easy money. Okay, Yeah, you're selling out. Yeah, that's selling That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying the whole time. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm still endorsing this, but y'all have to understand that somebody else box. But no, no, no, hold on another note, y'all know d volte I came in here, this ship ain't the same. I can't make assumptions. How we can't make assumptions on what's going on with that. Just like when you start eating certain ship, that ship

tastes different. Yeah, but you can't make assumptions. See what I'm saying is with a product, when you're attached to a product, they following you, you're different. But but I'm gonna but before I do that, before I sell out, I'm gonna have to let them folk know. I gotta let my court know that y'all folks is remixing. This's gonna put on the other table, all right, but put it out just now. I can't. I can't. I agree that I can't put I can't pull I can't do that.

Not special with somebody health and ship, but with the shut show. If they're saying, Okay, we're gonna clean this up, I don't give a funk how nigga feel about them folks making a ship from white folks. I don't care. That's between the parties involved that on it. Yeah, but if I'm selling some ship that that's that's natural and then healing your body, I'm not being like cakes or whatever. I can't. I can't put my face. But now that

ain't the same thing with old girl. Though we don't know what we're doing to this ship, who the funk are Because at the end of the day, the white fold one made this ship what it is. Black motherers didn't put much on try to make it go up to any white folks what they do, but it's going up to the white folks. But her core, what they got hurt to the point didn't get me the man, the court didn't get me that. The court got me

afloat No. But for all these years, the core is what got hurt to the point of the white lady making it a couple of months ago and making it okay. Understand that let's take it back to the music. Your neighborhood is what's gonna get you to to your city, your cities, what's gonna get you to the world, to the world. Okay, then the world is what's gonna get

you overseas. Eventually, who was your launch? Eventually? Eventually these people may sound at the bottom, yeah, but I'm saying, eventually these people may shunt up the neighhood in a city without the neighborhood and the first motherfucker to turn on you, don't I don't know I agree with you, But what I was saying saying like, let's be real, what's you It's almost my first motherfucker's to turn on?

You are at the same time your foundation. That's why you just gotta walk light and know what you're dealing with. Every single person, every single person. If I come into rap ship, if I come into the shell as a rapper, my goal and everybody around me goal should be for us to get to some Coachella ship and do some numbers. And that's gonna take crockers. But no matter, no matter, this is gonna take the ones in the office or

the ones in the crop. But what I'm saying is this is this is if y'all don't know, but this is, this is the this is the new evolved bank. Let's say rapper A comes from hood, you know, and rapper A is it the hood? And when we're in the hood back then all we're thinking about it some hood ship. Yeah, bro, I'm gonna get on the show these niggs how to keep it real and not do that ship. That's what it is. And you literally have to sell out that

philosophy exactly. But you don't know, you don't do better to you know better. But I agree. I'm just saying that you don't know. If you don't know, you don't know, your mind frame is stuff, right, because I'm been all in all situations of it. So it's gonna look like a sellout you sometimes. So maybe this is the thing.

Maybe selling out certain philosophies it's good. I feel like all the time you sell out if you sell out morally, like you said, like you said about them about now, if I ain't even say the volt no ship that I know, they don't remix. That's what pray A cause of organizations. If you're a rapper A from the hood, right, if you're rapper A from the Hood. That's what I'm saying. This is a good point. If you're a rapper A from the hood and the Hood says you represent the Hood. No,

you're right, that's what I'm saying. I disagreed, But the Hood says you can never go do a song with that Hood. You can't do it because or whatever whatever the case is, you can't never go do a song. Let me finish with that Hood. Now, you get to a certain level and you evolve mentally and emotionally and spiritually, like, man, this ship ain't gone. That's just like how why being fright? I just did that Christmas toy drive together? Or they

talking about exactly that type of ship. So the Hood, and I'm not saying it's right, it's gonna look at that rapper a like they sold out and a lot of other people will too if they kill about debt. Understand what you're saying. What I'm saying is I understand what you're You're going to back offics and suck a dick to get the mother record labor. You don't sold your motherfucking soul out. To me, that's how they're gonna look. How do a record with that hood and that hood

and the hood don't but you're not. You're not a

dick sucker. So when you're going there and sucker dick, you just you just morally did to me, like when it comes to when like Screen was saying, when it comes to some hood ship, like it's just like the ship that you were saying about standing on ship, when you've been standing on standing on standing on standing on standing on this is happening, that has happened, blah blah blah whatever whatever the world is gonna look at that ship like I feel like personally, me personally, I feel

can break it downstairs me personally, if Jade was a wrapper, this is my dog. We've been standing on colds and more is not. But I see an opportunity for her. I'm gonna encourage her to take her opportunity because you're involved, you know, because I'm her friend. No matter what it is. They're just like we were doing the music and the folks saying, hey man, this ship cool. What we're doing

this uh this mixtape? Ship? We need a record for the radio something you can feel like making radio records is selling out, No bro, we need to do what we need to do to make some money because we didn't need ship the guy there for for little Jojo to listen to the world and listen to it, like, what are we doing. We're doing business that we're doing some nigga ship. So we gotta determine if selling out growing the same thing, right, That's what we have to determine. Agree,

But we all have had some point. We have years ago. We have been in the barbershop entertaining to talk about some bullshit that we don't care about now. But sure, that's what I'm saying. It's mindset, bro, It's all mindset. Like we could be somewhere. I could be someone thinking that Like I used to think back in the day when I us see rappers and they popting be broke and ship, I'd be like, bro, how haven't you got at his money? How the niggas ain't on until you

get on? You see? Like I could be done. Gave a nigga two million chances he could be somewhere and say, I tell fun him, But he he's not been to say the two chances I gave him. He's not gonna say how many times I went in the whole dealing with him. So no matter what you do to somebody, you're gonna be the soul that and they they in the environment to stand around to make you the conversation

of a sellout. So how that's gonna work. So this lady who doesn't sold her ship whoever, and the black ladies who who probably bought this ship one time or never bought it, it's gonna say she is to sell out, Like that's what I'm saying. So what I'm trying to say is me my opinion is how the fund diddon sell out. I took my time to come to Jackson State to make Jackson State even come out of our mouth now. And he never said he would be there forever.

That never came out of his mouth, but said I'm going down here to do this and change the culture of this ship. Now, Jackson State University was never a topic until he went. So I did my job for Jackson State. And there's a lot of black coaches going to hbc U s now, a lot of them, like five plus. So y'all gonna tell me not to gonna be prime time, We're going not gonna be prime time in Colorado. It's gonna eventually lead me to an NFL

head coach, I'm appoed to grow. No, I'm not saying that you're not supposed to grow, but playing Devil's advocate, what I was saying is that when you when you're when you're leading people, the followers that you're leading that are solely following you and your word only deserve some kind of something. I get that, but what I'm saying, But what I'm saying is how much of it do they deserve? So, like I said, do you think anybody that was up under d coaches, students, anybody in that

facility didn't gain from being around this man. That's all I'm saying. In a situation like that, don't do it to your own detriment. I feel like if he left them cold, like what do that? He didn't do He ain't even type of person. Didn't do that. He opened, That's all I was saying. And I say he talked to him before he made a decision, but he didn't do that. He sat them down and said this is what it is and pretty much told her if y'all

get opportunity to grow, y'all need to grow too. You know what I'm saying, And it's a higher, higher end challenge. So if he is able to accomplish and be successful in Colorado, that's gonna make the whole situation a little better. I just feel like the end of the day, but you can't make the season off for motherfucker's saying you're gonna sell if you ain't sold out internally. But you tell that's how you said when you know you can't

live with your live with your decision. But now people gonna sell out, and like Masket, though they know they can't looking at me, they know they sold their people out of sold out. That's what I said. I feel like when you sold out, you know, and the sucker ship, right,

that's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. If you know in your heart you ain't did no sucking ship, you ain't did no sucker ship, no matter how what mass you put on, some people throw it off though they don't understand that they did some sucker ship until way later. Well that kind of goes they know, Hell, yeah, bro, you know, get what if you got to think about it more than one time after you've done it, you

know you did some bullshit. Yeah, you make a decision about something and then you don't think about it the mode that the right decision in Mama, look at it's a way to look at it. I don't know. I could be wrong, but me the way I operate, I can't make a decision for Jay. I can't make a decision for screen, right, you know what I'm saying. And I can, but I can't explain to y'all while I'm making this decision for me for sure. So how the

funk am I selling out? Batters? If someone whoever that is, was so strong on I will never That's the only way. When you get in a relationship with a woman and you marry her, you say I would me, and you say I would never leave you. You're speaking on if there ain't no different, bro, Because at the end of the day, she felt like you would never leave her. So what's she gonna say? You will sell out? Niga sold me out. Happened, nothing may not happen. You may

outgrow her, But what was the reason? Yeah, that's the reason. What I'm saying being a reason. I'm just I could wake up one day be like I'm suck of this bitch man. If Banks say I ain't, If Banks say I ain't never dye my hair blond with purple streaks in it. We're gonna hold you to that, bro, And if I do that, I'm a bit in my mind because I feel like that's selling out. You might have

just never be that. That's what I'm saying. The word never, that's what That's what you understand this when you tell your wife, you don't you tell your wife, Jessica, baby, I'm never leaving you. You You and my understand that. Okay, God forbid, God forbid. You wake up a whole new nigga and say, well, she say I sold it out. She saw me out. How you you? You put it there? You you you put it there. You could have just been in this situation and never made that promise. You

could have but that. But that's how you feel in the moment too, though. Sometimes never be in the moment, and we all sell up. Sometimes never be in the moment, then we all sell out. Sometimes never been. I always say I'd never take my goals. I got some goals in my mouth, forget them. That's gonna lad to ninety years, King Tuck Goat, I'm gonna take the motherfucker's out soon or later. But at the time, I felt like I

never would ye this situational. This situational. Yeah, and motherfucker might see me when I get the white teeth, Like isn't gonna sold out? But okay, I guess a look. I think a look is different than a cause. You know what I'm saying, Like a cause is like enhancing people's health or people following you for that's what I said. I said morally, like you can never you can. Like I remember I said I would never wear skinny jeans when they first came out, but then he got skinny

and he but then that's all they sold. Yeah, it wasn't no more big boot cut jeanes, no mo bro, all the genes. Even though we got him a we wm tight. They we wore skinny jeans though every gene came skinny fit at this point, at the point I think you said before like you would never get on social media. Yeah, social media, That's what I'm saying. But that just be a mind framing this light. You get

what I'm saying. Yeah, Ship you'll say in the moment like I never do this, but you just you really only mean that for now because times you could grow into it, and thank you bro, that's all I'm saying. So it's the better is the better is the more the story. Never say never? Now I can go for that.

I'll never say never because at the end of the day, like like you said, a motheruckers say I never signed a contract because they're doing good in their space, but they've never had the mother to tell them or presenting them with the money. They know they are never mate being independent. That's why they're saying that, right, never say never.

I think that's that's part of the moral of the story. Yeah, you can never say never, bro, because never by some ships you can I can't self like I'm not gonna go in that back room and yeah, like morally, b yeah, I get it, that's what I'm saying. But you can never say what's gonna happen in the street ship morally though, Like we're going back to that hood ship, like he will never do a record with so and so because the hoods whatever is the street ship morally or is

it not? It depends on its situational situation. Because at the end of the day, I could say I'm never doing a record with a nigga because of jade, because you don't folk with but me and Jay fall, I ain't really have no property folks, so I never would do a record with them because of Jade. But I really fought with the nigga. But my morals and my this my dog, so it ain't funk with y'all nigga. But then she turned to some bullshit. I don't got

no problem with nigga if I see y'all a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's get let's let's get it, make business and let's do it. It's still a business at the end of the day, right, So what is it sellout a motherfucker that doing something that goes against his morals? To me, I could be wrong, maybe, and maybe that isn't going again. So girls colding morals to sell that ship, because maybe that was up playing the whole time. Thank you. Maybe

we don't know until we bring it in. Everybody listen, everybody lists send back saying that she sold out, didn't get no money off that ship, right, that's the key, and her family feel like she sold out or whoever is been a fitting off the next company she's about to cree. You can never say never, bro, never say never. And then she probably through I'm think they probably I'm through, Bro, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't did everything I need to do for my life. Yeah, that's the purpose of

this ship. I think people do miss the business purpose of it. Likes it sounds so good when that new rapper say everything you want to hear, right, So it sounds so good, especially if you're in that space with him. It's like, yeah, man, this is the voice of us, and this is the person that that that. But hey, Taylor swifting them call talking about some other ship and you tie the dealing with all the ship at that level as an artist, you might go ahead and but

why wouldn't you? Though? Bro? What's what's the ultimate goal in business? I think everybody else's. I think everybody's goal is different though, especially this day, because we're in a cloud error. So the ultimate goal might not just be money, not even popularity. Yeah yeah, not even money, a cloud of popularity. And I'm saying, like to me, when you get in music ship unless you're doing the ship for a hybb, But the ultimate goal is to be number one? Right.

In order to be number one, what do you think you have to do? You gotta be the biggest brand that you can be. You gotta be a pop star, regardless of what. You can't be the biggest, nothing like my popler Savage. He's a fucking pop star. No matter how good are he talked on these rappers, on these records, He's a fucking pop star. Model all this ship he did, he's still a good But he did it his way. I think that's important. He did, but he still did

songs with Post Malone. Yeah his way, yeah his way, but but he but he still is a pop star no matter what, no matter his way, the tattoos, no matter what, no matter how. When you look at this nigga, this is a pop star, nothing else like. But some people can say that that sold out because he got white teeth. I think the sold out would be if you heard him on some bullshit doing some like weird election. They just and he was he conformed to if he

did it dayway. He didn't do it dayway. You understand I was saying, and they said, you can't rap about this, and you can't say this, and you can't do that, and you can't do this, and he went for it. That's not what he did. He crossed him over to him. That's what he came out. But but but before Samma's got the streets, he already had the crockers. No, he came in as a rock star rapper for sure. First.

But what I was saying is he did you you know what I'm talking alone, even on the songs with all these other people that he's done songs with on some like super duper overly crossed over pop star ship, He's still a little man from Glenwood in facts, That's what I'm saying. Facts have a just But you're still walking, You're still doing ship. You're walking in these fashion shows and ship that ship you never we never thought you

would do. But he ain't doing it's big, He's still He's still but the ultimate goal is to be number one, though, but some people feel like you're being a pop star to sell out. What I was saying is to number one. When I feel like I feel like, okay, speaking on the pop star music ship, I feel like being a sellout is when you go home at night, you take off all the clothes, you take off all the ship, and you are not yourself exactly. That's what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, he didn't do

nothing morally different than himself. Right, So he did. But if you think about it, you think the people that didn't go with him to the top not saying he sold out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's always gonna be somebody to say you sold out regard I got the streets, you got this, You ain't. Ain't no black posts at your show? What the who the fuck care? He's still the same nigga with bigger dreams. I'm trying to think of it, That's all I'm trying to say.

I'm trying to think of an example of a sellout and a sellout that knows they sold out. But it ain't came to me yet. Let me keep thinking, keep talking. It's just like this. If you come in one way and you try to be another way to get there, you probably sold out. Like you come in too hard, That's what I'm talking. And then you try to be like the girls. Yeah, now you're turned into God. Now walk walk, You don't turn into that. You sold that you talk, You know what I'm saying, Like, because you

came in talking this ship. Yeah, that's selling out. We'll not get big. This is interesting. What makes an artist a sellout? In terms of music art, selling out is associated with attempts to tell the material to a mainstream or commercial audience. It's wikipedia, that's I don't believe. I don't. I don't agree with because at the end of the day, why is you getting initiat if you're not trying to

be mainstream? Yeah, it's just like right now, Okay, we stopped smoking on our show just to get more sponsors. Did we sell out? If we stop cursing? Did we sell out? See? The curse part is did we elevate? I mean we can elevate, but the curse part it is kind of our core, Like what the core do though the court keep you at certain levels? Did we really sorry? Like they can sell out moments in our culture and they say, and don't disrespect the o g legend that it came posing for play Girl. You see

a picture of that. It came pollos of Playgirl. Is that sell it up? That's so? That's so? So? What was Tupac in the tub? Yeah? We guy apples and orangins, tomatoes and tomates. Black Eyed Peas was just a rap group. They say, black Eyed Peas adding Fergie and going pop. Is that selling up? I ain't know ship about them so far you got it. This is just like the guy damn Brandy was talking about. Ain't nothing that the choices bro the man POVERI play girl. They said he

sold out. Let me picture look fish just she does. But now let's let's ask the question. Okay, I don't agree. I don't think he crossed over. That's just like what's her name? But man from Florida, Florida. But he came out the boots with the fire now, but then when he saw his winning his lane. But only and I can't remember every lyric. It only matters if you said I'll never do that ship. Yeah, that ship don't work for everybody. That don't work for everybody exactly. No, let's

go back to the podcast. Okay, if we remove, if we take a deal right now to say, okay, a sponsor agent comes, we clean it up with y'all cleaning up. Yeah, did we sell out? Jay said we do because I caught one here was cussing. No, I don't. Here's here's the thing. I just feel like, okay, the smoking thing. No, it's not selling out because you're trying to get to the next level. But as far as like to me, the cursing like a completely and totally clean podcast with

no cursing. Like when it I feel like when it comes to us, like some curse words are our form of expression. So and that's what that's what people like to hear our core tone it down in a problem. But yeah, it would sound weird as hell if we never said not one know, that's talking different. Bro's talking different, said talking different. Yeah, we just sisor sis. I don't want to hear that our coring. I don't want to

hear that. But your court don't want to see you get no money in Is your court really with you? It's a tricky one. Is your court really with you? Or is your court wants you to stay ignorant? So do you got the right cor that what you gotta ask yourself? Brother? I can't argue with that. I'm just saying that, what you gotta ask yourself. I think it's levels to it. Like if we're coming here, that's one thing.

If you're talking different, bro, I just were just saying all these words that I'm saying right now with no kurch words, I'm still talking like bank this me. Yeah, then that's keeping it what it is? This me. But if you, if if we both come in with blond hair and a three shades lighter and all that type of ain't saying that. My grand baby tell me that you're saying bad words when we're public eating. So if I stop cursing, I sold out. But I still talk

like me. I still expressed and say things the way that I say, staying the same thing instead of saying the same ship, I'm saying the same thing. What's the difference? No, you're right, I don't think that, but I think that I think what Jade is getting that is the the the concerted effort part. Like if it sounds like you try every time you say something stop yourself, that's not yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah not for sure. But if you just master just doing it that way, it is

what it is. That's growth. That's all I'm saying. Like, but if you if you say a hundred times, people wouldn't even notice. You Gotta think about it, bro, if we just if we didn't like not saying it's gonna happen, if we didn't curse and still talk like, people wouldn't even notice until they'd be like, damn, they ain't say no cause word that that that what's the name? You

get what I'm saying. But when you try to do something like you said you you and the mother, trying to be like oh oh no bro you yeah yeah, because because that ain't you. It's like you get on the record with that pop star and you're trying to be like them when they called you. Yeah, they called you turn them up in this culture. But you over there trying to be like watering your ship down to be like them when they called you. That's sell out. So when they call you, they got to know it's

on my terms. I'm coming to do what I do. Just the only reason why I say and I don't know if we're about the end of what But I don't read why I say sellout is situation. What's what's the situation? Not situational? Um? I don't know. I don't read why I say, um, sell out. It has to be within you. It's because everybody have an opinion on everything, everybody to do. So no matter what you do, I can I can just we like I wear sweats all the time. I might say I sold out because I

don't what is imam? That's what I'm trying to tell you. So if it don't, if it don't affect you morally or affect the people that's right around you saying like, hell, love, man, I ain't tripping. How you tripping? I feel like, but if I'm selling out screen, I'm gonna be like, got a call from screen or she'll tell you she ain't laying with that. I mean, like, bro, what the funk is wrong with you? That's when I'm gonna know I'm tripping. My son, them didn't go for that. I think of

what I'm saying. So the motherfucker that don't know me saying some shit about me, how that work? It don't matter. That don't matter. No, that don't matter. The general the general public and opinion don't matter. All I'm saying you ain't sell to yourself, in your family and your immediate a circle. Who the funk else can call yourself? This is my whole point and the whole thing. It's only it's only when you say you'll never bro. I just said I never do a lot of ship and do

a screen. I won't trying to tell you so because it's because I like light these Jens is slaying fitting up. Yeah, that's a little bit different. I'm talking about some ship. Then it's impactful for people like not just what you're wearing. But if you're saying, I'll never tell that that's that's but to me, that would be morally wrong, right, Yeah,

I agree. I'm saying I don't agree with you, But I was saying, some of these people think it will be morally wrong for me to cross over and do a certain type of music, and they make whole songs and albums about it. They whole out and be like them got there, the niggas and the commercial niggas, and they do that and they become that. That usually is what happened with rappers. But that's the growth. To me,

I understand that ain't saying that's growth. At the end of the day, you you're not gonna think the same way if you've been in the game ten fteen years. You know, Shnoop Dogg never thought he would be on the show with Martha Stewart. Yeah, but it didn't change who he was. What you mean he goes smoke weed in front of Martha stoodents. Oh yeah, yeah, it's all the same way that that a little bit that savage is savage wherever he goes no matter who he's around.

Snoop Dogg is gonna Snoop dog no matter who Snoop dog totally different though at the super Bowl he's totally different. He's smoking, but he still but they saying he's still totally different than he wo murder what his case came out. Don't get it totally, not totally. His brand is totally different, not totally. I disagree, you're going the same smoking, don't banging for sure, don gang banging different more. Don't say it was totally different more. That's what I'm trying to tell.

It's a difference. So if you look at Schnoop Dogg from back in the day, from doggar style to Snoop Dogg, now you think it ain't an old lad nigga hit the neighborhood saying then' there gonna sell out? It is I that saying he's a sellout now was probably a hater back then. We can look at interviews, they're saying that he wasn't like that, he wasn't like this. He

shoot night, them just slap him out and all that. Man, I don't vote death row now he never said, but he never said that he wasn't gonna He never said he wasn't gonna do that. It wasn't a never say. He never say when I joined the Crip, I'm saying, I'm never letting a nigga play with me. That's all I'm saying. But that don't mean this abody gonna play with dog Bro. I'm saying, like y'all ain't getting him trying to no matter what happened, somebody gonna say you

sold that for sure, Yes, no matter what happened. And Snoop brands not the same thing. He wouldn't be able to go all right. When he was pulling up back in the day, he pulling up fifty sixty niggas he pulling up, that probably just him shining in the security or something with smoking weed. That's a difference. And he's still smoking weed and he's still blew That's what I'm saying. But that's a difference. Though. It's a difference. It's a different nick putting up with a bunch of nigga shooter

sticks and all that. That's a difference, right, some people looking at that, it's selling out where your niggas at. I don't need you'll understand with me with math, Stewart. That's a total different brand, right right, right. But I just ain't never hear him saying I don't want to keep going to show. I ain't never hear him say I will never. You think he ain't telling niggas I'll never leave, y'all. I'm always hear my niggs with me. I don't know. We don't know niggah in Yeah, we

don't know. It's always gonna be some like you. For what these niggas said on records. It's something these niggas said never and they did it. Yeah, that's so you think back in the day that them niggas didn't didn't take in the studio, I'd never be be a pop star because you know that was frowned upon back in them day until popular music took over. I think it's started happening naturally. It just became pop music. Ain't trying

to be pop star as they are. I think't happened when run DMC did Walked This Way with Aerosmith, that was that was, That was that was That was like the tip of the iceberg of it. But it's like ship, these motherfucker's became like I don't think Nelly was writing that song like right, like I'm gonna do that. It just happened, but he still was. I don't know that

a day. But all I'm saying is if it ain't morally wrong, bro, and when you feel like in your heart that you know what I did some bullshit businesses bidden and in mindset change every day. Fact, I'm saying, I get there in my head, I'm just not. I have one particular situation where I know people said, you remember when you said that, right? I know, should I grew whatever I said, I'll never do radio that I'm in the streets mixtapes. I say that on the mixtape.

It's there. It's gonna hunt me forever. But you'll be a damned I was a damned fool back then when I said that. That's all I'm saying. Get you, you can never say never. But that's just I don't feel morally like I crossed nobody and nobody. That's that you just saw the whole day. I agree. I agree, but it's not for a cause. It's not for a cause. It's differently rich was a cause who were just still that's what you said that on a hood rich mixtape.

I never ripped I know the radio. You had to go do radio by yourself with me, but the opportunity. But at the end of the day, the folk who've watched they want to hear no I get I can't got them say something, bro, I can't say that bank. I just said, like call back screen. You can't get break twenty mics in him, but like say something your turn, No no DJ scream talking on the radio. And if your niggas love you like I said, like we said last man, they with you. Brother, you have chosen one

bro right, I got it. And they're gonna get on their knees unless you stand on their backs. Yeah, you're the chosen one, b because at the end of the day, you pulling you're pulling the brand up anyway by you being in radio. That's all I'm saying. So at the end of the day, how you sell out when I'm still told this hood rich flag? Right? No, I agree with that. So I'm sure y'all what's possible out of this ship. Well, we thought we weren't gonna never do.

Look what they look what the world has pushed up to. But if me going from that to that was detrimental to a real cause a real thing. That's that's what you wouldn't beady to take it. That's like you don't even sound the same for me. Exstapes and you were sound retarded, trying to sound the same old rad yo say.

But you still did it your way. DJ Strenge still DJ spreen because coming to mother who you did me stay fun the first day they still be like even shouts oide um U takeoff and they were like, man, no, we had to get that DJ scream me take They're still looking at you a DJ screams. It has evolved until now I'm talking to you on your podcast, king for sure. No, I agree, you don't hunt me. I'll just bring it up because every now and then, remember

that's just niggas. Thank you and get what them niggas still listening to your podcast like no screen the podcast. But you said you were gon never but I'm glad you did exactly. I get it. I get it. Yeah a little people with y'all sell uh JD case and ship show like like in the movie. Like I said, I would never play homosexual role. I would never do that. I wouldn't give a funk. They said, billion dollars I'm never doing that because I can't play like that right,

Like how I just won't be an actor. So never say never. But they are never. That's the more the story. They are plenty, never cliny never, But because it's it's within you morally, like they can come to me and tell me, like eating with the rap ship, we're doing the rap ship. I just felt like, Man, I ain't doing this ship. This ain't me. I quit then feel right. People probably feel like, Bro, why you quit? You could have?

You could have. I didn't feel right, Bro. I get anxiety on stage and ship that ain't for me because they don't feel like my purpose. I walk on stage, now what y'all doing this? Ship? I feel good. I don't have to throw up. I don't have nothing because this I feel like I'm in my purpose, like I'm just being me. That's a difference, bro. Yeah, you know you're doing something that ain't right. Bro, in your core

you could feel it. Brom No, for sure that while every time you you'd be like, year, I gotta see what brother say, because you know if that ship feel like this ain't nitche screen, I ain't doing it. Yeah, Well, look, we anxious to know what y'all think you know saying we've been having a healthy conversation Big Facts Pod at Big Facts Pot. You can hit us on the Instagram. You can hit us on the Twitter and make sure you follow, like, subscribe, leave ratings, all that good stuff

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