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BIG FACTS FRIDAY- Groupie or Supporter?

Dec 16, 20221 hr 4 min
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Groupie or Supporter? The crew discusses the distinction on the latest episode of BIG FACTS FRIDAY.

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Big Bang Screen. You don't be on nothing. I'll be ond okay, So let me ask this bring you big big right now. Visit the new website today, Big Facts Paul dot Com coming to your life for Revolt Studios and the A t l Is DJ Scream, Big Bank, Baby Jay, Shot Jones and Big Homie Kodak and it's time for a Big Facts Friday. Everybody, how is everybody's weak? He Van fucking tested freaking test. Yes, we're not Carson today.

You just see you y'all been listening to that ish So y'all a little extra curtsy today, extra cursy, not extra cursy, extra curtsey. The god they got out all black, so you know what he on? Let's get straight to a jade. What's the word? What's the words? What we're doing with that? We kind of like we're doing something a little different. Um, we're doing supporters versus groupies. And what I'm gonna do is, I'm gonna read the definition

of supporter. I'm gonna read the definition of groupie, and then I'm gonna give you my reasoning as to why I feel like they're intertwined, and then we can go from there. Okay, so the definition, the textbook definition of supporter is an adherent follower, backer, or advocate and somewhere

like a fan. M go for it. Yeah yeah, But a groupie the textbook definition of groupie is an ardent fan of a celebrity or a particular activity, which I think this definition is a little wrong, but I mean we can just roll with it for right now and get into it. But I feel like a supporter is looked at as a groupie by a hater of whatever the supporter has going on, the supported has going on.

Ship we talked about before the basically like if you give anybody any type of acknowledgement and considered yeah, especially like that's just like if if Shy is fucking making Christmas pies and I'm supporting Shy, you know, posting her ship whatever where there go, get shots, pies, whatever, whatever, Because you don't like Shy, you're looking at me like a groupie, Like I'm dick riding Shyes pies even though I'm really Shy is really just my friend, and I'm

trying to support what she has going on so that she can be successful. So in real life, not in just hood terminology. What what what is that fine line between being a supporter of a fan or a groupie, because we know that. Let's just say, for instance, someone comes up to us and says, the funk with y'all. You know what I'm saying, fun with y'all. You know what I'm saying. We're like, I love Saluke, you know

what I'm saying, mutual love him. But then they kind of keep going and they kind of keep pushing the energy, and we're like, why don't know? Because I'm a groupie for all my friends, like if I love you and I care about you, groupies generally don't know the people

that the groups. I thought a groupie was like, yeah, I thought I thought when you talk about groupie artists, right, I thought a groupie was like the women that's like standing at the hotel's like really following you, trying to like yeah, trying to throw them bodies their body on you, just because it is so we can say men and women. So whoever, just going over and beyond the figure out your schedule to make sure they're there to like push

themselves on you. I guess to determine whether or not it's groupie, is um you have to look at the intent of the person. Yeah, I guess that that kind of makes sense. Somebody walk up right now and they've got big fact tattoos and our names tatted on. What is that? That's just a strong supporter, that's just stand stand after the standing groupie. Yeah, a stand stands the die hard fans. But if they got big facts in our names tattered on them, we don't know them. What

are they? That's a fan, that's a stand. You can't never say with one of the episodebody did for that. Yeah, that's a fan. But if you excessively keep coming up here, you come pens yours. One time cool Bro was playing with y'all, did cool and leave it at that. That's fine, But you we see your ass downstairs every day and you're trying. You know what I'm saying you overly you're on some group of ship. But what we want some people don't look at it. Look that we do live shows.

What we want a super fan to be big facts apparent on the front row, always buy tickets. That's a that's a fan, that's a fan supporter, that's a supporter. What I'm saying is when does it Because I know in the hood, like everybody in a car and all that ship you at a nigga hotel and okay, that's when you become a group Basically, when the people become uncomfortable, it's probably some yes yeah, or like if if if yeah, if a fan trying to like grab y'all and kiss

on y'all, that's a groupie. That's grouping, Like girl, back up, you don't know these people to even feel like you could do that. I think that's more so groupy, so off the rip. Groupie is also people. But then but because what about okay, does it depend on how big the person is as to whether or not they're deemed a groupie? Because what if? What if? Um? What if what if a fan like ran up to Michael Jackson and try to kiss Michael Jackson that or is that

like an over zealous fan? Because people still have boundaries, like for you to feel like you know a person that much to just go up to him and put your lips around them, you on some groupie ship, like when you see people, that's grouping ship. But I know, but you know what I'm saying said crying on some bullshit for somebody could walk up to you and teared up, but you're gonna tell me why. You can't tell me why.

He's because I'm who I am. That's a group. But if you're saying, bro, when you said this or you said this in this song, Bro, this is how they make me too. What if they're so touched that they're not able to get out the why and they're just so overcome with emotions, So like, yeahyeah, I think that some group of ship. But some groupies, like they don't even really care about the person. They just know you're famous, like that's who. They don't really have a it's a

difference one. Yeah, so I take that back because the motherfucker can't crap crap because you bet on touch me and they actually see you in the flesh. But like you said, a group of the mothercker who would do that to anybody that's famous? Yeah, give you a sing. You've seen people like yeah, like how you always in

the mix of everybody. Everybody but you snuky and defolk don't even know you and ain't recognize you, but you some kind of way sneak your ass right there, Me standing on the sofa too, and like yeah, everybody looking like who is this? Yeah, that's a group, A GROUPY, a group B. To me, a groupie and like a wedding crasher are the same ship because it's like it's the same I feel kind of but I feel like wedding crashes do that ship because they just want to

do that ship. Groupies do that ship because hey, I'm just trying to trying to get some like if somebody crashed away, and when they say, like people like how you get trying to stop and go like to somebody's wedding and just I wanted to do that. You've got a lot of niggas that be grouping for purposes to like niggas be a group of you trying to cloud chase. You get what I'm saying. Like, so now if I get in the picture with such such, I can show

fans that I'm important to get what I'm saying. That's a group of ship too. That's something super duper group. You don't saying if I can say, if I can name it out anytime you always see them on saying me and such and such a I was with such something. That's group of ship. No matter how you look at it, how you could how niggas try to I fought with them. You don't really funk with them. You always every time you want a happy birthday, motherfucker, they never hap air

birthday you. You you gotta energy has to be reciprocated, right, it has to be transferable back for me to you. That's what makes us friend. If you're doing overly doing ship for me and I'm never doing nothing for you. It's like people on Instagram and always be on some my brother and my sister ship that mother do not know you If you're saying, I'm your brother and your sister too, were supporters of each other. I'm saying, but like,

it's never reciprocated. You're grouping. What about those people that like, you invite somewhere and every time they're somewhere with you, they've gotta be like, come on, let's get in the picture. Like, is that that's cloud chasing too? Though, that's a cloud chasing some people that feel like it makes me important to be next to you. That's borderline group of ship too. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, So it's borderline. How do you handle that when it's somebody that you kind of love?

What you mean, how do you handle somebody they love you that you care about. No, they definitely love you, but it's somebody that you care about. But they're always doing this. Are always trying to like take a picture or always trying to like get a video or you know what I'm saying, like a group, but because that ship don't happen. It's just like um, somebody with a drug disease. That ship don't have a face on it. There's gonna be people around us. It's gonna be the

same way. You like, and why do you do that? But I don't know why are you doing that? You get what I'm saying. We can't say what a group is, bro, But I'm just saying if if I like my mind, I just the bottom line, I just the same. It is different, it's different, it's different. They invited though. If someone gets invited to the party, they've been invited for it. But you can you can have an open invitation. I'm not saying people that knows people and always just that's

easily accessible. It's about the motherfucker's you know, like how you get in here it is and you over doing it when you get in here, like you ain't getting in Just you know what I'm saying you you got them trying to wrap the niggas ill and just all that, you know what I'm saying, But like doing ship that it ain't even occasion for that, you're making the scene. You're making the situation again, back to uncomfortable. Get your man's trying to introduce people to people that they already know,

laughing that ship that ain't funny. Yeah, yeah, but that's how you move when you're not really used to be in the type of room though he ain't got a decorum in that situation. Yeah, it's a certain decorum when you were like on thin ice in a room. Like you have to understand that, like you speak when spoken to.

You don't try to take a whole bunch of pictures and ship if you're really not supposed to be in here and everybody you got a chill before you get ejected, and everybody not trying to network when you at these events, Niggas be thinking when they're getting the room, that's pee, I'm about to wrap with Pete. You don't want to hear you wrap. Niggas be thinking that, but but but

what if I never see p again? Sometimes they're going with your mood now and there's a difference if you tim if you if I, if I push up on you and try to go to my movie and then you're looking like nah, then that means don't over the sis. But it would be like ship because I don't have been in that position. Forward Nigga might say some ship and I'll be looking like na, and further then I'll

be like nah, this ship hard. Let me hit. You get what I'm saying Like, sometimes your mood can go through for you if you it depends on the moment. Like if and I'm walking to the drink machine or something, you're standing about the drink machine just so happening with your ship playing. Yeah, that's your move, that's your move.

But if you you hunt me down, hey, hey, when you get a chance of mine at your brother when you name you on my dicky, Yeah, but if you catch me on on on on the what you call it on you catch me on the wall, pass on the move, like you caught me pass You're in passing. That's what I'm trying to say. You catch me in passing and you when I get my attention, that's networking. Yeah, But but it depends on the type of event. Too, though, what is It depends on the motion. It depends on

the moment, the moment. You're saying that Niggas moves could turn out to be a mind changer, the game changing I think mind Yes, that's how a lot of people get on too though. Yeah, a lot of people get on through that big fas bibble. Will we say networking versus neck working? Right? Net Work is you're supposed to

net work. What I'm saying, if I could plot my moved, if I say, if I see we sit here and I see goddamn um Code walking towards the elevator, and I know I want to be on his radio show, I'm gonna try to get on the elevator with you. Call that, can't You don't set my stage? Yeah, I see that did that with jay Z. He bought the apartment next door and at the end of the day he got diverse. So we can't say that there's no group ship. That's that's what you call when you when

you're staying up. That's consistency. Yeah, yeah, you have the means to be able to do certain ship. It's no longer groupie ship's persistent, but makes a group of ship if you just want to talk to me, and you don't have a motor, You don't have a plan, you don't have you just want to know me for nothing. Now, if I get on the elevator being like, bro, what did it take to get on your on your on

your woo? I got your undervided attention. You tell me like how light such sun and shoot me off or whatever, or you could in mind that I count you at the right time. But if I see you talking to the people and who and I'm hey, man, can I let you when you're done? And all that old ship, I'm sucking up my mood. So you gotta make it organic. Yes, okay, that makes a lot more sense. And then you make game supporter. Yeah, okay, you know what I'm saying, Like niggas Like, Bro, niggas be d m in me right

and I'll be reading the motherfuckers. I ain't gonna that you say the right shoot, I'm opening it. Follow you and what's up, bro, sim as the club whatever? If you say the right ship, if you start your ship off, Bro, this ain't no group of ship. Yes it is, because if you ain't, you don't even gotta say it right. Yeah, if it. I ain't even gotta say it. Just be like I fought with you. You know something is to

be I fought with you, bro, straight up. How doesn't go I funt with you and leave it at that. That support, Yeah, I fought with you, bro, whatever, and then I'm liking your pinch. I don't let you know I funk with you. But I ain't. I ain't all in your ship on your regular page Chicken DM and all that ship. I ain't doing that at that, Yo, let's work. I don't know what let's work needs ship. I can't say that. No. I can't say that. No, man, I I can't say that group of ship. That's I'm

not saying that. I'm I'm just saying, get to the point. What's the point. I gotta get you attention first? You get you get the attention when you get when you send the message. If you say let's work, I don't know what that means. It could be, it couldn't. It couldn't be you asking for a favorite that's not gonna benefit me work. You're saying let's work, so like you're saying like, okay, you're saying let's work, But what then do you do? Yeah exactly. Yeah, yeah, that you need

me to do because I know what you do. Right. If I hit you to say, let's work, that me. I want to work. Whatever you got going on, let's work. I mean, let me come intern at the radio. Work for a lot of these niggas sometime. I mean, hey, play my music. How can I get my music on? Yeah, that's not it, shot, that's work for him. If I get you, if I get you to play my music on the radio. Nick I just put in work. Yeah, his his his, what you do for your yourself today.

M a hundred and fifty niggas. Let's work. That's working. Two of them hit back, that's working. That's that's not let me say. Let me say this, that ship really does work. Because that's how I got to scream. That's really how I got to scream. I was ready to move back home. I was hitting up my home girl, like I'm ready to move back home. Anybody trying to pay for my photography and all that she sent me

like people to hit up a photography. Everybody I hit up, nobody answered the last question she sent me with scream. I finally hit scream up. That nigga hit me back up let's work, like, so it just it works. So what did you send to him? I said, I heard you just looking for a photographer. That's not let's work. It's the same ship. It's not that's specific. Like I heard you were looking for a photographer, which means that I heard you were looking for a specific need to

get filled. And she just hit you and said, let's work. She did, she did, but I was good. And then I replied, but if I said let's work after you, If I saying let's work and you check my page and all I got on there is what I do, I'm probably not gonna check the page on let's work, ship though, let's work and all your ship is just like some people say let's work and they page blank. Like that's the worst thing you can do with somebody

industry because your your resume. Now, now that's that's an idiot. Bro. If I hear a nigger from from my page, big bank, bro, that's how I'll be getting mostly BROA. They look at it, they know what I'm talk about. Yeah, you want to come on the PA. And they were like, boy, hey, y'all been waiting on this. I've been waiting on it. Take you. I'm saying, I ain't got to say, hey man,

how you're doing. I'm big bank with big facs podcast if you want to, I'm not going to say all that you know what I do because but but you know you can't. Yeah, he's saying that ain't got no motion, ain't got nothing. And they hit you up on something like let's work. He like, what the is this what we're supposed to do? I don't know what you do. But if you go on my page and see my ship hard and then you know them talk about your radio, yeah, yeah,

you gotta you gotta start. But but yeah, what y'all saying. It's a leap to get from let's work to start to making me want to look at your page from let's work. But I get what get what guarantee? If but he got let's work on it, he already if you go back, scroll down and he already got all counts. Should have been telling you that I'm in my last time hitting right yea, that ship go. You know what I'm saying, I've been saying that ships and because the

people from two thousands like big Rapper, that's big. Now when I finally like they finally come on our show. Something that I stopped falling on it like that didn't get me back in Yeah yeah, yeah already. Finally they became even because you know, at first on Instagram you couldn't see the like the people that like you weren't

following there. That didn't happen unless you follow them. I'm saying, like, people's on the other side of my ship with blue checks now and then once they come on the show, I started trying to get familiar. When I go they play, then you know, I go check my message, I'll be like d and they need been hit me up three full time, but leave it at that so when I

see him in person, they never say nothing about it. Yeah, that'sing, but it'd be like yeah yeah, but I'll be feeling like I'd be kind of feeling bad about Like I feel like I saw that ship and just ignored you. I really didn't. You can't. You can't. You can't reply converse with everybody. That's just yeah, I'll be trying to be soon as your ass they see that scene, they're gonna respond with some more ship. We'll not get big.

Let's see. I don't suck up too like that, Like I didn't try to keep it rail in respond to some ship and then some ship yeah, like now they're going too far, yeah, and then it's like too much. Yeah, bro, you know you're not getting true supporters is rare though, Yeah, true supporters fans type of how they used to be as rare, right, Yeah, because it's a lot of times now people support you because they want something back. Can you say a person is your friend, right and say

big facts? They say they don't watch big facts because they don't with me, But she your friend? Can't you say that day I'm friend? Yeah? Can you feel like she's your friend or he's your friend? If they don't support they don't funk with me, but they fun screen like did you saying did you you my main man?

Like my friend? I don't. I don't think so it's not your friend, not true for you because if it was the other way around, I wouldn't let that interfew would be supporting, yeah, because then you can still watch it and then just talk cars, scream and talk about you. You don't funk with that, you know what I mean? Like it shouldn't stop you from watching the stuff. Support I wouldn't. I was thinking about what would I do like,

I wouldn't let that stop. I was. I was still support like regardless because at the end of the day, this is your ship too, and this is something that you have going on, and if this is successful, if this blows up, then you're gonna blow up, regardless of who else is on it. So I'm gonna try to help it blow up. I might not ask the nigger or you know what I'm saying. I might just ask you and leave it at that when I repost all

the ship or whatever. But I'm still gonna make sure that I can do whatever I can do to help you blow up. But I ain't gonna push the issue and try to make you I'm just gonna know that you're not your your friendship. We know, we all know

what's going on. But what I'm saying is, could you respect your friend if you like if they said, I don't watch it just because just say, really, we just really really brothers all these years and really had a problem with anybody here, like that's outside of Rip my dogs. It really had a problem anybody here. But he'd be like, I ain't because I ain't gonna repost, ain't gonna do nothing. I ain't. I don't. I don't see it. I'm blind to it. How would you would you feel like rip

your family? Dad? That'll be tough because I'm saying I would support him if he was doing the same thing and it was somebody that I didn't care for. Could you look at it like I'm only watching it because of you. That's what I'm saying. Like now it might be a little different with because I had this going, I might be a little different with events. I ain't coming to that ship because I don't want to be

around you. Know what I'm saying. That's a little different because now you now you might have to put yourself in a situation exactly. If it's that's cool, that's cool. But guess what if you had an event? If y'all had an event, big facts had it been and I didn't funk with Jade and I know the ship went well, I might not say but I'm gonna call you. They'd be like, oh, yeah for sure, Yeah, oh I may not come, but you're gonna know that I see what

you're doing. Yeah for sure, you gotta do that. You're my friend, You're my friends, so I gotta make sure you know, Like great job friends exactly regardless of what for sure, Yeah, you better put it though, you know what I'm saying, whatever, be on what I'm on right, and then ship going about funk with it. Yeah, yeah, like she said, talk about Yeah, I can't get in my feelings with something that was, like she said, gonna

help you win? I mean my feelings about it. How that means I don't funk with you exactly right, exactly? M hm. Oh. I only funk with you when it's convened for me. A lot of people only fun with people when it's convened for them, and if they go funk, like if they if that person makes them uncomfortable with the situation, whatever they got on going on, they won't

sunk with them, if that makes any sense. Like, I funk with you as long as everything that we got going on is going the way that I'm playing on it to go. You know what I'm saying, that we're on a straight path. But if you go funk with somebody else that I don't even funk with, now I'm kind of like eerie with you, So I'm acting weird towards it. A lot of people do that. They only funk with you if you funk with them, and if you sunk with them the way they want to be

sunk with, soon you do some other ship. They felt like, oh you your friends with that person. We ain't friends no more, and that ship weird to me too. So to me, I just felt like people need to just like accept people for who they are and not who they want them to be. Yeah, I just I just feel like I would give a damn who you go do shows or whatever with, if you doing it, or if you're doing it, if you're doing if you're doing it, I'm gonna call and get my partners. I'm gonna do

all of this. I don't give a funk. If it's gonna help this person, it's gonna help you too. That's let's see. That's the whole thing with people like people be like people being the ship and people being the boat, and people a poker hole in the boat to make the boat sink, just just to make sure that this other person doesn't win, not realizing that if this nigga fails, he's on the boat with you. So both y'all are gonna see your nose off to spice your face. Very toxic.

That shouldn't be crazy, like you don't want this niggna win so bad that you're gonna sink yourself too. Not yourself because you outside of you you we don't put ouse up on the outside of the glaz it's just y'all too. You're my friend on fun. Hell, how the funk I'm gonna say, I don't want to see y'all win if I want to see you in because you're exactly my friend is part of the exactly. So however it goes, I gotta still in my heart want to

see you in if you're my friend. Yeah, if I don't, if I want to say, oh, I hope it, foundations go up, but I don't want to be fact to do ship's friends, um, because this happened with like one of my friends and her other friends. Well, they had a situation to where one was having a business when she had two different businesses, and then the other girl was like, well, I'll support this business, but I'm not gonna support this business. That's not her friend. Is it

not true? It's but you can't say that though if ain't another person. But if I don't believe in something, I don't believe in if you had too, if you had two different things. If you had you had Jada Kates and Jada Pie and the pie ain't nash to me. I don't even recommend the mothers different businesses. But I ain't even but I ain't gonna tricking about and put that on my face like I'm vouching for you. Ain't even do that. If you have like two different businesses,

I do'n gonna tell you like them. Ain't really it, but don't even like that. It's just two different businesses. Like I got two different businesses, but one of them is similar to something that I got going on. That's like J Yeah, j J got the j K screen just putting me on shop pies, but Jay also got J shoes. I support them shoes. I'm telling everybody about the shoes. But I'm like Jay, I can't. I can't say that's relate, that's kind of that's kind of competition though,

that's kind of competition. But restaurant on this without the restaurant they do, But I ain't got them be on putting jake cakes on my popage, but you ain't gonna good. I might eat something like I'm saying a repricate with another reference. They don't. They might put the album up the drop the same time I'm gonna put it up. But I don't want you you to do more than mine. That That's just how it goes, right. When when it's when it's when it's competitive, I can see, I can

counter somewhat. See you know what I'm saying. If it's kind of competitive, if he sold shoes, I sold shoes shoes, is it? Though? Like I don't even care because now but about sick and neck? Why I want my issues right next to mind. But that's I feel like that's dealing with that's dealing with two people that are just comrades, are associate, she said, friend, that's like that changes the game when me and j bon't get our neils and

I do our little funky things. She got her yellow ship right, and she decided she want to have a yellow nail polish and she tell me, and I'm like, well, Jay, I begin my neils done. I can't support that yellow polish. Yeah, that's hate. No, I feel like what you're telling them too though you're telling them the hate. They're just saying that type of the reason. Why, But you like realuate not necessarily though. That's real though, Like Jay, I ain't

gonna support because then we got the same ship. I love you. I hope you should be successful, made the best bitch win. That's different. But see what if that conversation isn't had and it's just like some ship like OK can say like with me, I don't. I don't like I can honestly say, like in real life, I don't give a funk like you could have the same fucking eyeballs I got. If you're trying to sell your

eyeballs or donate your eyeballs or whatever. Hey, my friend over here is trying to donate her eyeballs, y'all gonna check her eyeballs out. They're the best eyeballs in this whatever whatever, Like, don't you know I've all got to be selling to your eyeballs? Ain't selling? What the funking you look like being a commercial for another They got balls and you ain't selling. But if it's my friend, like I'm not finding goddamn at vacate for her eyeballs,

That's what I'm That's what I'm saying. Don't wake up every day and be your pr person and my ship ain't said that's crazy. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna maybe like once a week. Hesh, I got these eyeballs. She's still trying to get him off. Whatever. You you must not a friend. But what I do, like with radio, I got people who got the same time slide as me. We're best friends. Were cool. I'm not about to tell people to listen to you and say listening to me,

thank you. Yes, that's that's you see. That's the difference though. That's that's where I'm coming from with it. That's that rat competition. That's like a time thing like that. That's what I said, and they're going the radio has to get ratings for this specific time slide. What I'm saying, you can get streams, but like number one album that week when when Draking Twitter one dropped ship listen, k got out the folk wait out of respect to you know,

we don't even gonna drop the second week. They probably gonna own a second week. We're gonna push this ship back with the eyeballs conversations. If you know your eyeballs ain't what the other eyeballs is. While you compete with your friends, maybe you should be doing something else, like a remix of that something else? Is it compete in both of y'all had the same passions though, Like I don't think it's just the people, but just think about it.

Everybody start clothing lines all day. Everybody got a clothing line, right, and it's like Jay can have a clothing line. I can have my clothing line and it ain't necessarily competing with each other. The difference. Okay, I can go into a store and buy your hoodie in your hood that that's not direct competition. That's just in the same field. But when it comes to like rap ship and radio

ship and other shot. But even with that, even if shots me and shot cellnuities and we bought sellenities at the same time, I'm still gonna fucking go up with her ship like support, support, whatever, whatever, you know what I'm saying, like past shriveing niggas like her hoodie over mind, Like I don't give a fuck. I don't care because

we're all gonna be six. I feel like when you when you have a genuine heart and you come from a genuine place and you try to help people, the universe is gonna make sure that whatever it is that you're doing will eventually be successful. Also, so it's not like Okay, I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna shy away from this or I'm not gonna post this because of she's doing the same ship that I am, or like I don't want her to win or whatever whatever, like fuck it,

Like who gives a funk? Like we're all doing this ship and yeah, like like like Black said, made the best bitch win, but hopefully both the bitches can win, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, like anything like, but I don't know, man, people be when it comes to ship like that. Like sometimes like niggas get weird, like but if I feel like it's me because my circus in a way. So if you're my friend and you're doing some ship that I'm doing, hey, yeah I'm

a support it, you know what I'm saying. I don't get no funk about that. But if you ain't my friend, and why the funk am I finit go over advocate for your ship. And now if I meet you and we're cool, Yeah, yeah, I like it. I like it what it is as a podcast, if it's the show, whatever it is. If I like it, I like it. I can't turn it to the hater because you're doing the same thing I'm doing. That's impossible. Like I d M god, damn uh inky god, damn wallow these niggas

every other day. Bro your ship, dope, broya, don't bro because I get inspiration from these niggas. So I'll be a real hater not to say that. And a lot a lot of times like we may not be pitching to the same people like ship. I know Big Facts, people to watch Big Facts probably not gonna be the same people watch big homies sounds. It's people that watch um poor minds that may not watch Big Facts. But Ship, I'm gonna promote all this ship. I'm gonna promote all

this ship because I want to see everybody win. But I just feel like every everybody got a unique presence. So, uh, drink chunks can't do what we do. We can't do a drink chune. Dude, me and our name don't do what we do. We don't do what they do. So if we we sit around saying like on with this podcast because they got a podcast, you just hate him because everybody doing something different. Because even though we're all doing the same ship, we're doing we're not doing it

all the same ways. It's a whole just a whole bunch of difference. Like the folks got them putting that ship up there, like they got that money. But I'm so happy because y'all just setting the talk, open the door, like they need to give another, give somebody else more. Yeah, so when it's our turn, Yeah, it's like a quarterback there's no even to come out next year. He won't this quarterback this year that came and went number one to get the most money you can get. So now

I already know what to negotiate, what y'all get. You already know what y'all get. Y'all can't tell me that because I got the same stats or better. I got this, I got that pay me with y'all the game. But he just set the bar. Yeah, yeah, all that makes sense. But I got a question, what about I know we used to go through this in our when we were younger a lot. Right, When you have people that's like, oh,

you're a copycatt. I know, girl girl being a girl and having girl friends, you you deal with that a lot. Like if I start a last company, right, my last company, all right, and then my home girl coming. She tell me like, oh, I'm gonna start a lash company, I may go to jail, like and that bit's always trying to do what I do. Like, what about those type of people, because there's people that do that and they go to that all the time. But people get inspiration

for someone exactly. But some some women or some people I'm not gonna say women, some people don't see that as oh, you're inspiring that their own insecurity. Yeah, yeah, you should be flattered that this that you inspire somebody, That means your ship gotta be good if you don't inspire somebody else to do the same ship. Yeah, I know.

We used to deal with that a lot, like back in the day, Like so many needs to hear me up, Like, Bro, you make it but making it feel like what they can do a podcast and you need to actually be doing them after. Yeah. But I'll be the first avic it for the nigga because I know niggas, bro, we probably think we would never thought we'll be sitting around just talking and this ship is it paying on nigga else never? So I'm I'm trying to wake niggas up.

I've been trying to get niggas that don't. I ain't thought about brother, telling you do one from you first and you'll see it, do it, telling you do it, do it because this ship into be something different from to be. Like the music game. They're getting away motherfucking basketball country nomins and ship for this ship and up. I don't get it funked up the whole time, Like shot in my nigga pole he went. He going up. They're going up an apartment like we're times, like boy,

this ship, what is she going up? Because everybody's gonna embrace you because he coming in is how y'all do this or how you do that? And then when he gonna learn something somewhere else, you shooting me like no, you can't come in the first. You gotta this, You gotta that. You get what I'm saying. That shipping gang, right, That's that's what she's supposed to be. Jade is talking about. To this building. There's enough for everybody. It can't just

be one apartment complex. Yeah, the apartment complex and next doing the people that own that ship, they know each other and they're gonna go do another one or do some other ship, do some condos or some houses. So that ship is just building the community, is what we're saying earlier. I wouldn't want to stand next to you doing the same thing. Like like we recorded the same place, we're doing the same We'll use the same graphic designers.

We're doing this. No, do your ship totally different to different. We do the same thing, but not the same way. That's when they can get it doing. Yeah, you got to have individuality. Yeah we do the same thing, but not the same way. So I can always support exactly what you do because it ain't what I do, right, But I see you trying to be me. But what if they're saying you don't want leaving a blueprint, But don't be me exactly me. Take what I take what

I'm doing and do it your WAYNT remixing. Tell you what I'm doing remix mixing. A lot of people, you know, a lot of people don't have that creative that creative brain. So they just look at it and be like, Okay, I need to mimic that, and that's the way you do it. But because well if you think about it in school, that's what school taught us, Like you could learn from the experts, do what the experts did. And

you become an expert. So a lot of people they don't even look at it as them dick right in their copy and they can't get there that they're following the blueprint. They follow blueprint. But you can never become an innovator a trend setter that way if you just you should look at the blueprint and just know how to look for sure. But you gotta you gotta flip that ship. Yeah, for you to be different, and in order for you to stand out, you have to break

the mold. Everything that come out sound like another nigga. They might catch a little quick song and then they failed away completished there right here being himself designer. Damn, I was thinking of the same person. Yeah, he ain't gonna I was thinking the same person like you. He as a new rapper. That's probably the worst thing. You you sound just like that's gonna lie the first year some ship. Yeah, with a little man. Come on. Everybody

who come out already they self gonna stay. They selve when you come out, sound like somebody like that dude they had that time like for the sound like Tupac. I remember the couple of them, just like I know you're talking about crazy. He's signed him. Yeah, like this ship worked for the first and we already got him. We already got the person that you supposed to be like, like it was a white dude that that came out. Oh yeah, he sounds just like baby. We already got baby.

Why we needed another person that sounds just like a little baby, a white baby, but country white niggad It sound like baby could have took off whatever the baby he just rapping on the song. He don't sound like them. I know you somebody rapping on the farm. Yeah, he don't sound like sound like yeah, beat shout out to him. No, you can't beat nobody else. Real. I can see you getting inspired and you kind of remind me it's similar, but it ain't the same. Like you got the people

that have come out, you that never worked. You come out and get inspired by a person and be like, Okay, I see similarities, but he ain't him. Yeah, there's a lot of Wayne got a lot of people that's similar to him. They probably took certain things from him and came and put day ship on it. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that ain't that ain't the same thing.

They steal them, But It's like when you take inspiration from somebody and use it as your personal motivation, you have to like insert some of your own qualities in there to like, like he said, remix it girls, it's not it's not it don't even makes sense to get started. And you gotta always pay homage to that person. That's the biggest part right there. People. I think people let

you do it and see they see your ways. If you pay humes like ship bro, this's who range, if you acknowledge the fact that this is my daddy basically, But when you go on and on and act like yeah, you know what I'm saying, that's when people kind of shun you away and don't really funk with you. How do it work? How that work? Go ahead? You know how that worked? Though? When something sometimes sometimes people sometimes sometimes people take off on the whole other level with

this ship with your sweat. Yeah, if you ain't already blue up, yeah you are, like yeah, locally they have a little buzz. Did somebody would take that? Yes, that always happens. We don't see it in Atlanta, we don't see it outside of it always happened, Like the studio, you got them downloading you and around, drop a hoddle song a lot like like little Walk was like who school to school boy? Download the lot of the little

nigga swaging with it. Yeah that's real. We're not get big like yeah, because the boy had been stars and with them with that lingo set a little flame like niggas get this, get it lingo. You know what I'm saying? Like that, why you can't go around when they're in the boot with your swag by being you, nigga? Download that ship and be you for the money. Need to be one of what need? Where you at? Bro? You ain't thought about why they need to call you around?

Why need that being quiet while you talking? But neither got your hand plug? Gotta u USB plug, download on your way. And there's somebody gonna call you the copy cat yep, because you're still existing being you and they all copied, but they all got you. Not who did the first, who did the best? Who ran? But so many niggas doing that, it's pathetic. Download Joe, but leave you Poe. They won't even say I got different, But

that's how that goes. Then who was that person in the person is like he did yeah, smart man, but he wouldn't be that what God gave you, but that

would make it like a group. I feel like, I feel like the same time, if they don't so something like, but I feel like if they if they do that, I feel like, if they do that, they're smart, like Black said, But I feel like at the same time, if down' like at least like you said, pay homage or acknowledge or you know what I'm saying, shoot a nigga sum or something like, I feel like that's some bit ship too. Like so because we said earlier that if a person is doing just that with a celebrity,

they are considered a groupie. So can't celebrities big groups too. They're definitely celebrities groupies and people that's around him. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you got, you got. You think you can't have a rapper that got a hundred million dollars be a group of a nigga with no money because I know he's that, So I'm gonna put that in the booth even even

outside of the rap shire. Why do you think a lot of these athletes start trying to sell drugs after they've made it doing sports because these are the niggas that they want to emulate, and these are the niggas that they see doing this ship. So they feel like if I do this ship, then maybe I can finally be cool, even though I'm already made. Yeah, but now you got you got the VOTs, that's what we call them. Celebrity groups are voters, got the money to do it?

Ye that bring you around and train you of your energy and use it on a bigger scale. That happens all the time, like writers and ship, like the little writer dude, be writing and ship. Okay, you can. You could be my writer once I get you to get you in there and let you write a couple of songs and will I don't really need it, but I not download Joe Cadums. Yeah you know what I'm download. Yeah, download this whole ship from you. And I got you here like na, no, go to something else, go to

something else. But I didn't got it Now I'm not how to mimic it. That's the whole projecting Like different people. This was despired by this writer. This was this writer like ship, Yeah, that should happen, So should you? This is this is kind of off the record. Should If you get that call, then you're a dope. Writer or hardest and you got this flavor? Should you go sit with that celebrity? Yeah, you have a feel come out of it with something. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I don't

group of hanging out. Yeah, that's what they get caught up. You be excited being around niggas, being at the post, and that ain't gonna get you no dope, m And they gonna make millions off of you being you like you gotta look at it like he called you for a reason because he knows what you're capable of. So go ahead, and um, I'm gonna send my invoys established business. This is a business, like, bro, I know what you're doing. You know, I know what you're doing. We know what

you're doing. I figure out something this ship, I give you all this ship, this ship for sale because they ain't with me with it. Yeah yeah. But then a lot of people they don't even know the business behind that ship. They just be excited that they got the call. Yeah, that's gonna feel like if a new artist come in the game with a hotland song, but the ship blow up so quick they don't know their own power. But a big artists come in and be like, yeah, I want to hop on that ship is that group of

ship's But what of the song? This song already big, it's bigger, it's all big. It's all bigger than the artists who originally put the ship out the song gonna be you have my ship. That's that's kind of help. But what is the boy saying on the song, I hop on the I need you may think they need you? Yeah, god like, yeah, I said be. I don't know, man, I know little ship. Don't Joan bro beat you. And then you got the other kind of niggas a group

of gangster niggas. Not the group of gangsters. What's the group of the gangster niggas? That the niggas who want to be a nigga. But when you peek, bro, ain't you trying to run out all my ship? Now you want to beef with you? Oh? I want to beef with you because I'm mad that you don't want to let me be your grouping or you caught me being a group of ass nigga not mad at you? Yeah,

or what you call them out on it? Yeah, now you fake it hell, but you are jet our jet goddamn bro bro yea that might that might be the worst that might you the worst now and your feelings, and then you got people can be in your circle, right knowing that I really can't be you around you, So I gotta make a problem so I can go here and beat you. Yeah, you got niggas that can

be in your circle that really want to be you. Okay, So I gotta make a problem get up around you so I can be you over here and be standing beside you being you. It's gonna be two of us over here and be you part two and be your eye. Yeah, yes, it's crazy. More were doing it. They's been doing that, man at the beginning of the time. Yeah, that's it. Damn,

that's fucked up. Why they just won't be I'm curious, like why rappers Like if I'm a new rapper right and my boy a rapper, Like why we won't fake be ops just so we both can blow up together? And then somebody got to win like that. Somebody gotta win and nobody wants to lose. Exactly gonna turn real. Then I'm gonna have to say ship. I'm had to say some true ship hurt your feeling for the people to believe that we beat it and the other ship because my feelings are hurt. Now it's gonna go to

go and play. Niggas do think beef will get them exposure? Now? Like, can niggas come up? Come? I want to be talked to about beef. Don't nobody give about your beef. Everybody ain't playing though, So when you do the fake beef and you do all the extra little ship whatever whatever, then I really take it there? Then what that's because people ain't playing about their name and their character? Who the fun is? People ain't playing about their name? Like but you can't even that's a cold no, But I

nigga got them mad? You could you? You want to be you? Boy? Like then you're fucking fucker nigga being you? Can you being yourself? They don't want to be you? This ship real? At that little ship for the day. I mean, you don't match that out my life? No, for real, that's what That's what endy is. I gotta make a problem. That's just like anything like people the same. If you grow apart from people, right a person, it

could be a relationship. Could be you and your wife saying to me and grow apart and she go her way, I go my way and people now asking her why y'all not to get on them all? Or what happened? What you think she's gonna say? She should say, we just grew apart. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like a person that's upset, if she's upset, because the story she's gonna tell her side of the story and inside of the story is gonna be if if if you scream, all right, everybody can't come up him and do what

we do. And if somebody's upset, y'all get into an argument about it, dude like and scream you don't never invite me to the tapings? And whoa bro, what are you gonna do? Everybody here work? Everybody is that he's working, like, ain't nobody here from phone? Just now you brand new, so then you can started kicking the brand new ship that you need. Be like, bro, I don't even want the energe around me. I love you, but gone. Then people start saying that you don't never be around you

know more? Ask him what you think he gonna say, nigga bit saying now they're gonna get back to you now he comes to beef. Now now we gotta go back and forth about you. Just in your feeling because you want to be around the nigga. That's some group of ships. God damn, he cold, that's some group of ships. Like at the end of the day, we're family. We're family, right, you can support from this since you ain't gonna be They just want to be you. They want to be

in the spotlight too. They want to be under the light. You know how you get in your body? Asked me, bro, what can I do to help to work? Yeah? Not what can I know? What type of person you are? You're allowed bitter you've ben to come over here. Then you're gonna feel the tie. You don't feel like you need the smoking the folks ship when the bank can't need smoke, like dam but you don't need smoking their motherfucker whatell It's just the mindset of people. You get

what I'm saying, Like this ship been into me? What are we on? What? We don't here talking about this ship business? So I know you you don't know how to conduct this. You're gonna suck it up, you know what I'm saying, So just respect my Oh you're gonna throw a flag on the plane, yeah, and then you're gonna feel like I gotta choose your side because I love you over my business. I'm trying not to let

my flaws up my being and some of that. It just setting boundaries, and people don't know how to accept other people boundaries. And when you set the boundary, motherfucker's want to be. I want you to choose your heart

over reality, right logic? Yeah, you said about like, come on, man, if I break the ship down to you, you know you shouldn't be doing this here and this established, but they used to the old bank that don't give a fuck, so they feel like it will since when all of a sudden we can't do this, we normally do this and anywhere we go. So since you're not allowed them to do that here, you then and you don't want acting different? Oh? Man, man, come gonna be one anyway?

I don't, man, Ohn. Sometimes you can't mind, bro, how a person is gonna feel when they walk away from a from a true conversation. Yeah, if I tell you the truth about something, I don't give a funk. How you go feel about the truth? Yeah? Yeah, makes sense, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes you can't mind. See, we try to pick emotions over reality. I'm gonna be seeing or sitting anywhere, giving the funk about how you feel.

If I don't tell you how it is, and then when I tell you how it is, you feel away. Now what I want to do? Choose your feelings, bore my lovelihood. Well, that's what some people think when they come to friendships. Though I don't want them kind of friends. I'm just saying that. That's really like some people when they come to friendships, they feel like we we literally go together. You my friend, anything I do. Yeah, they go together. Like, yeah, you're making funny. You gotta think

about it. Though most of our friends are friends by default because we grew up in the same neighborhood. If I didn't grow in the same neighborhood with you, I want to chose you as my friend. I'm crying. That's how we gotta look at this ship. Were only friends because of the time we've been around each other. Yeah, yeah, the bun is I knew you right. But then again, like Bank says, I don't say it said, I don't know,

you know, you don't know you know more. Buddy. Now, if I meet your as are grown man and were on the same level as we can bun. Yeah, let's bun. But bro, I can't keep bun just because of time. Fact, I can't keep a bunchet because of time. But what's there? All this? There is pass inspiration date. Like like take Off said, every every book has chapters and once you finished reading the chapter, that's it. Facts, Man, who's gonna

go and who's supposed to be there? Gonna be that regardless y'all may fall out, y'all might all, y'all might do whatever, y'all might go back and fall, y'all might have fun up moments, good moments, whatever, but it's it's it's it's gonna be what it's gonna be. If I got a tiptoe because I feel like you're resent me, you're not my friend? Facts am I? If I gotta god THEMN be scared to say something to you because of how are you gonna take it? We ain't because

we don't know each other. Because at that point you don't know each other. You're friends should know your intent behind it. Like if your friends shild bere to call you out on ship if you're sucking up. If your friend can't call you out on ship, then y'all ain't friends fact, I don't even think it's necessarily about the intent behind it. I just feel like if we're friends, we should be able to be honest with each other, right,

And you know what I'm saying. If we're being honest with each other, even if my honesty does offend you, then you know what I'm saying. You should respect the fact that I'm being honest and understand that I'm saying it with my best interests at heart. Right, That's what I'm saying. They got to know the intent behind it. Like, if you're calling me out on something, I know you really care about me. So if you're telling me I'm some bullshit, I know that you ain't just saying, oh,

she's some bullshit just to be saying that. I know that you're behind it is out of love. So I'm not gonna feel no type of way. But if I know that, like na J just calling me out to try to like show out in front of people, I know like she on some bullshit that people are taking the different ways. You know what I'm saying, So that's your real friend. You should know your friends intent behind

anything they say to you. That means my slip showing if my friend, come telling me something that's my friend, even if it made me feel away, I gotta process it. What's our process. I gotta be real with myself, Like, but I ain't never came and told me nothing. Let's still with that. Yeah, you get what I'm saying, Like, if you're telling me something I'm tripping, even if I don't want to hear at the moment or whatever you told it to me at the time, it gotta be

real because we're friends. Yeah, Or it gotta be real coming from you, even if even if it's wrong I feel like it's wrong, it's real because it's your opinion. You get what I'm saying. It's real because it's you. So either I'm a processing and try to get you to look at it a different way because now look, check this out though and see if we can agree to disagree. But I'm still taking in what you said and process it to make me too help my overall

decision or overall look on it. Like if you say you should have got them stop wearing black on camera all the time, I'm gonna go look at the camera, see like, and I'm gonna ask you why you say that, because you're blame him something and you're black too, so I'm gonna go to look at it. Came like damn, then't right. You know what I'm saying, I ain't gonna take it no kind of way, like what's up? And didn't know this is? Yeah, I do look like deep my eyes but type ship. You get what I'm saying.

I'm I'm a process it for what it is. Yeah, because like you want to see me be better. It's so funny. So you think back to that kind of you think those type of people with my eyes said, the type of people just insecure something just touching. Yeah't tell them nothing. You can't be like your shoes, your shoes untied. That's their all insecurities. Yeah. But I used to be the type of to tell any about anything, but I stopped it. Yeah, if I'm gonna tell you

something fun with you, you know what I'm saying. If I'm if I'm gonna try to critique you or tell you some ship, I funk with you and I see something that you may not see because I know it's been a lot of ship. I don't see, like, ain't the mirror in front of now one of us? So I don't know if not on my face or not, so she'd be like something on your face right here? I trust you some i'one knocking off you know what I'm saying. People feel like, why ain't that on my faith?

Just because of they insecured it? Why you always gotta say something kick that off your faith with fam? Yeah? So what did you just stay clear to people? But what the people you love? If I love you, I can love you over there. I ain't gonna love you in my space. That's real. You cannot let nobody else flaws when you when you're trying to work on your own. So the funk I'm gonna let your flower be detrimental to me when I don't even want minds to be facts?

How that gonna work? Wayn doing that? Man? Yeah? And if it's fucking, it's fucking. If it's fun, because it's fun me. If you ain't understanding that you're being detrimental to my situation, that's sucked me your feelings. It's selfish, all right, But sometimes we try to love people over oh well, being like a nigga, just say things that I know this is gonna hurt shot feeling. I ain't gonna say it to us. I'm gonna let her keep doing it. Would you rather be sad for a moment?

Would you rather be saying for a moment, confused forever, That's what you gotta ask yourself, or irritated forever. I already be sad in the moment that shot out my friend no more than to be sin right here every day we're inside it because I really want to punching her ship. You get what I'm saying, like real ship. So I'm gonna I'm gonna just tell you, keep telling you too. Ultimately be fuck you because I can't deal with that. Let make sense, right, it's telling me sitting

around you being faking her. Soon I leave. I'm telling code that, man, I god, damn man, I'm sickle shot. That's fake. Yeah, I'm gonna least trying to tell you. And then I see you working on or she working

on that ships. You get what I'm saying. Do you think, well, even when friends and telling people stuff, I think a lot of times people don't want you to tell in front of people for sure, Like people hate when you tell them ship in front of people because now they're getting defensive because now they got everybody looking at them. But like real ship, Oh, I don't mean to cut you. Well, I cut you off, but I didn't mean to to I'm sorry. I'm trying. Yeah, I'm trying to work on it.

But if it's somebody that, like, if it's somebody that I really care about, or if it's somebody that again, like I know, has my best interest at herd, even if they do like say something or like snapping me in front of people, I'm I am initially gonna kind of maybe like feel a way, but I'm not gonna, like, I'm not gonna take it to heart because I know like they were just saying that because they're trying to correct me, or they said it in the heat of

the moment because they were like fed up with the correction that they were trying to get me to understand and get me to see right. But I think it depends. I think it depends like if you if you correct me, like it's scream correct me in front of all y'all, I'm not gonna feel no type of wax at this point. We're family, We've been doing this for a while. We're

family now. But if I go with scream and we're in a room full of niggas I don't even know, and it's just scream is the only person that I know. And he feels like you don't have Yeah, I don't even if it is in case the point whatever. Then he's saying, could be right. I'm still gonna give him a defensive But the type if you do some ship in front of people, a bunch of people, I'm the type of nigger will checks you that right now. They

check your chicks. You see that's different, check your checking chicks. You need to read that ship because you tripped out. Yea what I'm saying, Yeah, we get you get what I'm saying. I ain't let me how let you right quick? Yeah? Fuck no, you never take upon yourself in front of a bunch of people that we don't know. We got damn the summit. Yeah, just stell up and say no, I just gotta eat whatever you did right then, I gotta eat it and then we'll get to the trailer.

You're big, I'm going bigger. Oh no, no, no, you want to make a scene. I'm about to make them for sure. You know what I'm saying Before I make the scene, like if if, if coda, if you come in and motherfucking say, we already said he ain't gonna say bitch in this in this episode, and you said I'm not gonna be then we just say we're gonna say bitch. No, I'm gonna let you get your bit off. And then after this show, after showing me like damn,

call that, then we just got that a month up. Yeah, like some ship you have to just eat in the moment. Some people don't. Some people don't get that like you got some people. You gotta tell hey, man, you can't just we played like that behind the scenes. You can't do that in front of her back. Oh for sure.

Not know what I'm saying. You say, I'm saying if you made a mistake that were said we're not gonna do it in the show before, So before I stopped the show and be like, my goddamn bro, you are wait, no, I can't do that to you. I'm gonna wait and come in on to all up bro tell him y'all. Then were just saying you instead of me going big on you when when when it's warranted, I can't do it because we just said the photo show. No, we just said the ship with photo show, okay, And I

not slipped up. Yeah, you wouldn't be. But the people don't know till I make it be. Yeah, they don't know what we're saying. We ain't saying. Bitch, this show right, you get what I'm saying, and you do it, and so I'm gonna look at us. A mistake. But if you got there, if you're too short, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, then we gotta goddamn figure it out. We got a problem. Yeah, Yeah, Amen. Shots to all the Big Facts supporters. We appreciate y'all,

the Big Facts fans, we appreciate y'all. We even appreciate the Big Facts groovies. You know what I'm saying. Check us out at Triple W dot Big facts pot dot com. Salute Salute fact bitch

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