BIG FACTS feat. TULONES

Hiding under a rock? You know what I mean? Give them a little background of too long as real quick so they can know what's going on with a stand for you know, I'm saying, what you represent, what you're into and all that. Well, we started back in two thousand and seventeen, and uh we're really just the southern street wear brands. So a lot of things and a lot of stuff we do is gonna be for our culture, for the Southern culture, and uh that's it what we represent.

And I'm pretty much I'm on the face line of two London's. I'm Ben. You'll see me all over Social deal. But like he said, we started back in two thousand and seventeen, really just coming in to be a staple in Southern street where it was something that me and um Bro when we came up with the idea, we were really just trying to staple something different in the southern atmosphere of the world. What we had kind of seen in California and just other parts of the world

where we were studying fashion. We just wanted to mimic it truly for the Southern culture. And this ain't no average like ship and got on the glass. And don't like I got glass into everything underwear. I got some glass in my back. Ain't no fresh on at all. So what did you guys, what did you guys um do or what was implemented into you guys structure to make you different in such you apart from any other just regular street brand that was on to come up

in the South. We didn't we didn't want to getting stories. We started off like Master Pete was hitting the streets. We were from from our hometown up until Mobile, Alabama, Right, So we started from Mobile pretty much every Thursday when we started to bring back in two thousands and seventeen, on Thursday, we were hit the road. We're being mobile, get back here maybe Saturday evening. I still come see

all of my customers here. So we were just pretty much beating the streets, keeping out consistency and just working as a building a true business. Along the lines of all that working. I mean we've seen them via cause via Via did with the first person I ever. Yeah, so when I seen we were just seen him come around out of time, like when you come to they'd be like that ship Fred that don't look like no merch and getting out you know what I'm saying. Put

us on went up. Congratulations. I've seen he was putting up in the trunk at the trunk into the house from the house. It should be for ship. I don't know. The high quality why it do whatever you need to do with it, cut it up. I don't give a damn what you want to do. High quality fashion we stand on that will be around when you're going nowhere. So with it. So with you guys, going from the trunk and going from the grassroots and going like hand to hand and foot to foot and all that kind

of stuff. How many times did you have moments where you felt like, man, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to keep doing that ship. Oh shit, I ain't never had the moment from nothing nothing, My whole team. All of this. We come from the same place. We all stayed on the same street. Are we familiar with blood? But we come from nothing. It ain't no looking back like she is, And I ain't working like I worked the job making four hundred and eight dollars a week.

Once I started making two hundred for myself a week, it was over. Never work for myself. Y'll tell me what to do. Two hundred me every day of the rest of my life. Good, it just got good. We work. Y'all need to like y'all send the records. You got it, man, That's how you gotta do it. I mean, when you come for the coach, right, we're putting on for the coach. When you come from a certain environment, you don't get

to see examples sit by different types of people. So at the end of the day, we said closed and we looked like this, every and everybody got the change. You're looking around everybody. But it ain't always been like this, Like I tell I tell people all the time. Just two years ago, me and bro't have no card. We didn't ground it for a long time. We're just taking the sacrifices of the brand and just building ourselves, like how we were telling y'all how we went on the

road every Thursday, the sprinting. Where's our car? We have a car? Associated if I'm on the road in the sprinting, he at home sitting down just chilling, like you gotta come to work or not, Like we don't have cars. So we sacrificed a lot for a long time, I mean until we pretty much got our whole team together and we were able to work, like on the level of work we doing now, that's when we started to just kind of enjoy some of the fruits are label

but we were just chilling, kicking back. It's a start out there. I think over eighty eighty five percent of businesses failed. Like most people start businesses and they don't do ships. So what's some of the ship that y'all made sure y'all did to make sure y'all wanted that keeping the correct structure of a business. I mean, I feel like a lot of people get length in when they think something is work. It's something can be working

for you, but you can be doing the wrong. So you have to just sit back and kind of structure yourself like, hey, how would uh, how would do that? The es we always like how would n I could treat their employees, Like what is Knight gonna do to have the next season out of me? Even if it's Louis Vutuon, Like damn Loui Vuton coming out with fashion the whole year ahead of time, So we might need to be at least six months to be halfway with

a Louis vituon is or anything like that. I mean a lot of people just see ship and they don't actually study or know what they need to do to make that correct structure. So that's what we did. Made made sure as a team we had the correct structure to make sure our business group and was fruitful. So you would agree, like if you're jumping in the clothing game, you are competing with Louis Vuton and you compete. You compete with the top players. And that's what I tell

when I get in boxes from smaller brands. I tell them all the time, like I mean, I give you advice, but you have to understand you still have to look at me as competition. You have to look at me like I mean it's a ship like Kobe and George. You got to understand that. I mean, I I see what you're doing, but you have to want to be better than me. If you don't want to be better than me, then you just basically laying down and you're

gonna be there. You're gonna be in the place that you may not be there, may not be that, you're probably not gonna be that most likely, so you didn't lay down to it. So the advice we always give them, this is a business. So we're laying a structure down pretty much every day and just building off of that pretty much always based on business though now like we love what we do also, but I mean when we put the business with it just made us pretty much

where we are today. Do you think you're um, it will exceed your expectation of what y'all wanted several times? Several times. That's how we had to I mean, that's what keeps us humble because I mean sometimes you wake up like I mean, we've accomplished a lot, like with investments, real estate. I mean, we're serial entrepreneurs, so we don't

really stop with fashion. So it's like we've accompanied right now and we're from we're back from Mobile, Alabama, so downtown we bought the UM y'all know that's the home of Mother Girl if you didn't sure, Yeah, that's where it starts, and then it goes to New Orleans and exactly. So we bought a building downtown mobile it'll actually be two penthouse suits and we'll start a restaurant downtown. We're going to kind of keep under wraps what we're gonna do in the rest Yeah, you gotta let us know

because i'd like to eat. You know, we can have us. We have y'all special advice, no worries. So yeah, I mean my own menu item whatever. Yeah, So we got that going on and being around the corner from that, which is downtown. Also, we're gonna actually start the renovations on the tooling this mention. It'll be just something like the Airbnb structure, just giving them just like a custom house exactly, because from from top to bottom really too,

from vending machines, the pool tables. It's not too long. Yeah, it's but no, no, whatever you say. One of the games the name is the Catcher. It's like, we don't care what you say. We know what it is. It's too long, they say, too long? What what are we get? We get everything? Too long? It's a it's a couple of pronunciations. What do you mean? Okay, So it's two lone this, which is if you break it down, we break it down to two lines is, which is two

lines and it is and that's a dollar for sure. Yeah. So if you see our brain, we got a lot of stuff. My name is Benji and really don't stay and from then and it's just Benjamin Franklin. That's dollars. Dollars. Were all about the dollars. You get what I'm saying. So it just go on and on. Something that just made our brand full circle and something we could relate

to for a long time. What was the first thing that made you feel like, man, you gotta give me some money, like growing up as a young man about I mean, we had got some money and lost it. That's what made us get someone. What you mean I mean she big? I mean not incat No, it ain't no him my uncle them had the paper you feel me. When we used to go with uncle. There's something he was a part of promoter. You feel me. He had

a record label. We'll go kicking with him. Here's something here show us in and out a part of promoting things of that sort. And she had that paper and when something I didn't go, Damnion went and so unkhead and damn. We used to come putting that money from the party. He liked one night, Damon kind of like she I got two dollars. I just got two thousand. Oh dude, he got damn uploaded on my Space in my n box. I'm like, oh ship And then he said, oh come home later on like y'all got that go

no you feel me? Damn it. Damn found the money the stade, we got them. We take un we got then we but but it's so crazy. I'm telling you this, but this is South crazy and how it was all messed up because I was twelve, Like I'm twelve, Like I'm going to the Senate. He going to the Night Saving the Night were two years apart. So he's like, man, I'm telling you, if we're here, fifty ball, we just got it. Just chilling. Man, I'm going I went the first day of my middle school. I go up and

that would have died my whole hundred. Dropping on the blow. She's like, hey, you come here, you come here, you've been to get up out of here. Don't bring no more money to school, no more money, We're gonna kick you out of here. And this thanks from everybody that yeah, the whole tide here in ninth here and we got damn middle school to high school. Nobody got them over the tin great. So he's saying that money is seeing the money sucked you up us all the way us

like we just used to have. I used to have real dreams, like probably like a doult have now like I didn't really seen. Don't let me let me go back to his story down with the reason why this ship happened, because was finessing us on the party straight by nothing recipe on soul. I mean, but it would have been yeah, come on that some kids. It was already little. We had already start getting money again together

and near things like what he said that we take. Yeah, yeah, because he counted the ship in front of up County and he really breaking us off, like here abouts a little fit shoes or something. But I was a little smarter than that. I'm like, hey, you right right, I mean I didn't just back to normal. I want to I mean ship, after leave for a few months, go back to where he stayed and ship, I mean you really go back to ship roughly, you know what I'm saying, right,

put that money. We were bad change fucking We had two screen phones and two thousand five bro bro whip shot. I'm driving, I'm driving in the sitting. I'm the worst one out all. I'm driving the mirror. I want to call. I'm looking at that money, like, but I want to go get a munth head. I want to drive to school every day. I'm doing all type of bullshit. That money up. We're sucking up. We got caught, We got caught. Yeah,

got come. You know what I'm saying, Sam mcgrad, you're coming home for the dollars filing at your pikey and Mom like she's the first time. She's like, okay, he might have for the next time. She's like, damn the one tent. I still got the fort in my room. Like hate the mold. I'm like, okay, MoMA win green. Mama like okay, I'm the teddy bitch up it's over. Like I'm gonna take all the clothes, all the shoes,

everything at the house. I got to see what they're wanting that so g we we said, I don't know them. About a week Abo else told on the ship they got off phone with the calling everybody else. They read us. We were hauling down and we held it down the long as we could show. Yeah, like man, I got a but just to be houndest man, we had to go back to being kids, you know, and nig went at that young age was not necessarily grow on, but you were able to feel like you were growing because

the money a lot of it to it. I mean, when you got his money, everybody along with the motherfucking mama, you know, it's all changing, and went all n get three hundred dollar for Cristmal like damn like ship, I gotta go gamble of some you know, like make some shake to even make this worthwhile it was and there was a humbling experience. I ain't gonna it took about

the shop and we didn't really never cared. We got a younger brother, We got some younger brothers, but our younger brother who stayed in the house with this ship, we just went to sacrificing for him, like she there's ain't no money no more. Like you know what I'm saying, my mom, give us a couple of hundred for Christmas. Ship.

We're gonna keep him clean, you know what. I'm saying, gonna get his clothes here, jorings and everything, because we were just we always been in the fashion, but we wasn't really the type of person who needed the Jordans and anything like that, Like she we're gonna you know, we're gonna make a shake for sure, Like I'm looking at the seal tag before they goddamn the higher price stuff in the way I would just talk that way. So we kind of sacrificed a lot for a little

but it was huggling experience a long time. What's the what's the main point? Like the main point that y'all stand on, like to remain focused within each other, Like because y'all brothers, right, So what's the main point that that you tell him and he tell you to just keep y'all on point and running home? Ship were on point. I'm on point. I ain't gonna lie to you'll really never beside that ship. I didn't did a little no, no, no,

beside that ship. I didn't. I ain't really been a bad example for my brothers, if you want to stand so we didn't. I always made good grazing said, like, what's the main like principle y'all stand on. But we had a little bit. We've been in all situations, so it don't matter what it applied to, like you gotta be a man and a gentleman. All of it applies

to every standard in life. So it's just like if you if you told me to beat up at nine and you up at team, you're nigga for disrespecting your brother. Like hen't your daddy? You know what I mean? Like father, Like we're trying to be your dad. We ain't trying to be that. We're gonna help to each other as me and we all standing on that business. So it's

like every day like the standard is set high. It's between everybody who are the standard said, you know, I wake up in the morning, I'm gonna see you a text because we're up getting it. Let's get it. It may not be too much of nothing, but I'm like bank, she we got to get it. De folks need to hear something from you today because they don't hear me, they're gonna have me like she is. You better let them know. So the standard set from the energy to

the business to the work ethic and everything. So it's like if you're up there earlier, you can work out you and make sure that man say less because you

can't do one without the other. We try to we try to make sure like within us that we're don't contradict ourselves, Like I mean, if you can wake up and work out, you gotta wake up and do your work, if you even even if you're gonna wake up and make yourself breakfast like you were grown that man under your bid like because we because we're brothers and we're friends. It's not a lex environment. I'm on your ass, fuck like I'm on your ass and I think not another

thing that's amongst a lot of other men. Ship were real men, So I ain't biting my tongue for him or nobody like we ain't like we're gonna address the issue. It ain't never a point with the business or two London is where it's like, oh ship, but we gotta sit on and talk about what he did, like if you did it, it's gonna be on right then we gotta address this issue because we ain't trying to create

a problem. We're not trying to create the environment. You're gonna be out what it is like if they they sent everything has to be him to the same way. I treat him a certain way. He had to treat them the same way. That's you, my brother. You we say that are not to treat him no different either. Nobody get my attitude because my attitude is gonna have to get checks of. If you're acting like a bach

your attitude back like you gotta get checked too. We don't matter how mad and make you, It don't matter. You got the baddest temple you like to fight on this ship. We're gonna fight. Then you might get jumped because you're tripping like we might liken't squash it right then you get too mad like you you whatig like you know that you're feeling. But apology and solve all before we even get to that point. What you mean? I apologize? Bro? What can I do to fix it? Like?

That's what we are like? Can I okay? I ain't gotta say nothing of that it won't happen again. But we are mean like when you owe me no explanation for what you girl? Yeah, you ain't my mother, girl like you ain't gotta you ain't got a lot of meat. Tell me what you're gonna do, nix. I don't want to hear no ship that you're gonna change and a

change right now, nigga, fuck it. Fuck you keep being an I'm making a nigg about that because you're fucking about what you're doing wrong, Like what the fund you doing something that your personal partners telling you you're doing wrong and you're gonna do it. If you think I'm gonna keep talking to you about the nigga, ain't your mom or your girlfriend? Nigga, fuck you, you say for sure?

So so so basically because I'm about to ask you, like how how y'all deal with entitlement and nigga just just don't get it, like you know, because they everybody ain't gonna get it. Keep ourselves far away from being entitled. Yeah, you have to not act entitled about it. I appreciate everything, So I'm a in the morning because I appreciate this. I'm working hard. At the end of the day, we still get paid a salary, so the money our business has not all I mean, my business a million. Now

I ain't necessarily with me. Now that's that's not how you I mean, that's not how the approach. I still get a paycheck every Friday. So at the end of the day, I'm not taking that for granted. I'm in not doing that ship. And then at the end of the day, if I don't work at that capacity, I gotta payed my partners, they got kids and there I gotta make sure on Friday, like they direct the positive

hit on Friday, like this is not a joke. So I mean, if if I'm I don't feel it tighted about it, can't nobody else feeling tired about it around me? I mean, of course you're still gonna deal with a living title, but you just have to chicken. I mean, or like they just got that. It's a like minded environment, so you're like sometimes you can't get it straight away, you know what I'm saying. So what you're like, hey, my brothers, like when you're ship, I don't know why

that was. Then we stopped working to day, we stopped eating about the people that come up around y'all that ain't around the more. We got two men not around, like who not connected in some type of way, who we don't necessarily weak because I mean, everybody is steal a family. Sometimes the situations make you where they can't necessarily be here standing here. But I mean everybody who family were still a family, you know, almost infinitely try

to create this. Like I said, we serial entrepreneurs, so we're still working to create the opportunity so that they have some too. We got the restaurant opening, we got the mansion opening. That's more jobs for them to go make this money. We're gonna keep it full circle. We are. This is all familists. So we ain't even really got to the point where we've hired outside people. We're still

in the family phase. We had to go past it because, like I said, we kind of keep the egos, entitlement and all that out of it so that we don't have to work with people who don't trust and just not want to be around and just like minded and just full circle. So we kind of try to keep it that way. Said we're not getting big how many strangers income y'all say, you'll got right now? Well, we actually it's not the clothes are really it's kind of

our money that we're making on the our sleep. We actually have invested and we're still invested into real estate. We we went into multime million dollar project. We didn't just uh approach like what we had homes, so we went into the commercial side and pretty took some some healthy investments. So it's actually we bought it last year

in March. It's it's actually taking us a full that's a mobile as we now, we're just getting We're actually gonna only finish with renovations and November or the first of December, and we won't start seeing and return until the first of next year. We may not open until Mada Girl. We probably just do a couple of soft openings and the grand open just to kind of get the name out there. But we really still investment. So like I said, we're just chilling. We are closing is

what we love to do. All the other stuff that's just stuff that we're learning to do to make sure that we here him so that we don't have to sit up if we don't want to make clothes or we see a close. We're still seeing there to Some people believe in like go hustle and everything. They might have ten eleven, twelve, thirteen different hustle. They hustle and hustling, hustling, and that works for some people, but they all feel like you should be the type of people that should

focus and perfect certain ship before you moved in your hustle. Well, right now, we're focus on clothes because I'm asking were close we gross close to like twenty millions, you get what I'm saying. So it's hard with a twenty million engine that you you got running to not you got to be kind of crazy. So it's like for other people, I mean, they're grabbing five, you know what I'm saying, no offense, but it's like, we got the engine that's running for it. So we're just really investing the money

to make it where we're gonna have several engines. But it's free right now because I mean, we're doing we love to do. He's saying, like, um, before y'all, before y'all master at that. You know what I'm saying, It's like, now it's time to do it. I ain't got no truck, but but y'all had ton division on the clothes. Ton of vision we had. We had to switch focus from a surface being too big. I feel like if we would have focused on closing specifically a long time ago,

we would have been where we needed. Where we were, you mean where we are now. But U with us not being streamlined and focused on specifically closing, it kind of detoured us in the show relaxed money to actually focus I mean not when I say relaxes, like Okay, I got this Now I can fully focus on something new I don't want to jump into. Like even with the restaurant, we've been doing restaurant research since we started making enough money to say so that was one of

the first things we were we were investing. We had menus and all restaurants signs probably three years ago and we just opened the restaurant. We don't know how we was gonna do it. That was just what we're invested into it, like mentaland like, oh, let's look at the logo repetitively and just think think thing thing like this,

have the men you have? We got like six different versions of the menus, three different renderings, and how to restaurants a little six different restaurants scenarios to put in there. So it's just a whole bunch of different stuff that

that goes into what you're doing. When even with real estate, I mean ship, we made bought a million dollar property as an older property, and we didn't take a lot of things into account like turnmite damage ship we uh windows, windows, yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, the windows cost the lamb truth, you know what I'm saying, just the window for forty windows,

it was like three hundred and some thousand dollars. I mean, we wouldn't expecting that, you know what I'm saying, turnmite damage probably extra hundred and twenty thousand dollars, you know, just and that's just investing. We were trying to make a thinking that damn, we got a million dollar building. All we gotta do it go in and change this and this and this, and now we guys gonna be rolling.

But it was totally different after it being it so crazy that we say that before we bought the million dollar building, we actually turned down the building that was about five hundred thousand with the full plans to the building read to um ready to go into the structure, and it was only gonna cost us a million dollars, right, and uh, we spent a million on the building. Ship like the architects, we didn't know that ship costs that cost up. It's a hund of gs just for the scope.

So I mean it's like damn, you know, but we we didn't care. That's what we invested in and that's what we want to see. Like I don't have to buy the more chains or just like just to do something different to actually like ship. I'm excited. I'm excited for what's to come with it. But I can definitely say that that was to this true turning point and something that influential that we did during the pandemic. So our brand actually accomplished a lot of this during the pandemic.

We were under the brands that didn't see a decrease. We actually see seeing over a three increase and sales. Yeah, so it was it was pretty much a crazy time for us. And it was just like the world was shut down, Like what else can you spend your money on? Like I went to the mall enough, I didn't swipe my debit card. They locked it up online, you know, like what else can do? So it was just like she you would calling me everyone like you live back?

What's the soundtrack to your lifestyle? Like what's up of music? From all the way to Dirts Friday? Were really I mean, I'm I don't really add too much new, just a new future, like I'm going from future and like that, I'm on the future, like right, I love Atlanta Atlanta music in general though, like that's something we've been on before we even moved here. It kind of drew us to the culture of Atlanta in general, just like from

the rich kids to damn from you like bank. I mean because we went to college at Montgommery, so I mean the Atlanta state they we went to Urban and Montgomery you know for sure. But yeah, so just the culture and everything that was there kind of just drew us to Atlanta. And we had to come here to do a lot of shopping. We were doing a lot of shops. Next, what's it like, like you know, before y'all got into closing, you had a dream afore that, like whether it was an athlete or a rapper or

desition or whatever. You know what I'm saying, Like what you think y'all might try and the entertainment being if you wasn't put some money like I want to invest, because that's just how it goes. Like every being the man that's from from the culture want to be in there. You know what I'm saying, That's just how it go. Even every athlete want to be a rapper, every rapper, just how this ship go. Like, yeah, we've been approached

about managing or like uh, starting the label. But I'm just the way that we said, the way that me and my team set up in the way and the understanding that we have, it's just gonna be hard for me to work with a younger artist with you know, his his team and his ego and for me to actually let him know, like bro, I mean, it's hard to see. Everybody was young and hard headed and we know how that and we know how that goes. You know what I'm saying that it ain't you don't be

hearing that ship. You know, they ain't hearing that ship. So you're having your way. You're just you're feeling yourself. So it's just different. So I kind of I mean I try to get into like I said, we try to music management and stuff like that. I mean, I could see myself, but it's hard because I'm saying you can't go back and forward that with that shirt saying nothing howing up and set it right. I mean, if it's I, it'll walk back. You don't have to go back.

And so it's just hard. I mean when we just built on the business structure that we built on, like I just can't say like she or you want to change like I'm gonna lock you in the studio my house like ship, it's your house, like yeah, you locked in the motheruck like all the girls. Whatever you do, you do it or now. But we need to hit right because I'm telling you my ears different than yours. I may I like got them here like you said.

I like to hear short float and like that one tell you I'm the type person, and I'd be like shot, I didn't try to have harder mem in the bed of a couple of time. We'll be listening today and I'll be like, oh, but turn on that baby, and the whole baby would have rolled that whole like I want to. I don't want to with your life future man, you wouldn't. Man, listen, I'm gonna be up in that like bro, listen to future road down and then find

another thing I don't like about it. Day don't understand what me worked like like they think them they would really be party and this ship like and you know, they think we live a whole different lifestyle because they see you with a chain on in a nice car. They think that you just like we're going out having drinks like Brian drinking. I go to the gym, I eat right Monday through Friday, then then on Friday night,

just like I'm working to get the popping. But ship other than that, we locked in because we got ship to do. I got bills to pay. I got people to pay, like like the colony ain't like you said, and he's got to know when they're coming in the new ship or anything. You compete with the top night. So what's gonna make me turn off future to listen to you and make one of them? Especially if you ain't working like that? Like I what am I work? What can I see? You? We're grown as hell, Like,

I don't give a damn. If you're sixteen and you want to be a rapper, you're taking on the growing a man approach. Hey, my boy, you ain't hanging out of your neighborhood and all that ship. You gotta go to the studio chancing my money. But you're showing me. You you're showing my mother risk right here right you run around with the stick. Well, you're gonna eventually I can't. I can't do that. You can't do that. I can't do you secured it? You be secured it, or you're

gonna do it. We can't do that. But if you're asking a studio and you're moving like a person that's supposed to be in the studio where you would have to worry about that ship and nobody wouldn't see you anyway, right, and you'll understand the being decided before you understand all the stupid still because you come through what they're secured and not they don't like, come on, man, like that's crazy. And that's another thing, like we were preaching and letting.

I gotta let a lot of people know, like, man, I'm a civilian now, I mean like, I ain't got nothing to do with that. Don't call me and tell me who told. Don't call me and tell me who did. I ain't got ship to talk about that billion I don't even police. Ain't gonna never be around me for me to know he was a snitch or you was a snitch. None of that ship. I'm coming on regular

people's ship. Like if he with me and you did your business, no, not that saying no, I ain't don't say like if somebody did something, somebody you're saying that you around me not necessarily died. That's a different line. I'm as far as the talking and I don't let me. I ain't got to do it that. Yeah, he's got damn it. He's seriousness ship. I hope he was real enough to keep me here about it because I don't

want know. Oh, I don't be around too many. You're chilling like I'm chilling, but here y'all, Like he says, she, I don't want to that. That ain't my right. Wrong, Yeah, yeah, wrong, g'all talk about that stupid as ain't talking about when you're talking, y'all say that the code is quiet. I know I'm quiet because I ain't talking about nothing. I ain't talking about the gospel nothing, So I know I'm quiet. So she in the street like y'all, hold no, I'm staying so true to it cause I don't want to

hear none of the ship y'all talking about. I ain't gonna never say nothing opposed to it or nothing against it like that. You're like, okay, she, but she he was invested in a little bit and the ship that was hard. Y'all want to buy, like you get what I'm saying, Like, hey, yeah, like something to close, you'll want to buy. But then I don't even want to hear that half of the stuff I don't even know about.

That's what I was saying, Like certain ship that y'all can get a young Oh, stay away from that negative and ship. Man. That ship is social media, that ship is blogs. Like that ship is just what it is for its attention. You know what I'm saying, You can't. I just wish that young niggas wouldn't take that ship so personal. It's only the end of it. Like you can't lose, Like I can't be mad at the nigg

over the end of that. Man. I got you and come on, man, like you got niggas on your street, Nigga, that nigga nigga took your shoes in the seventh grade. You're mad. Nig on the un didn't do nothing that right. Get this money, man, don't let them people keep turning y'all against each other on the internetship. Ain't get that money, man, It's all it's too easy. Man, we all come from nothing. Bro to keep explaining and keep emphasizing how you come

for more than that. We bank don't had a conversation about this like a week ago, Like if you get us real and what you coach poor to me? Yeah, pull no more so now I ain't pulling better than my part. You damn this still poor. So I can't say I pour out. Will Let me call my mom, let me call my grandmama. I still want to know why? Why? Why? Black people the only people that do that? Right? I don't know crazy, there's no other It's just a talk guy. I mean, I don't even about where we come from.

Us as black people. We learned this before you everybody else. We're in a house full of people who do that I'm saying by but other races, when they have something going on like that, they've more of saying like you get what I'm saying, Like I'm bored, Like I can't eat this, Like they really ain't eating steaks. We're saying, we're pouring we eat steaks. You know what I'm saying, we're saying we ain't. I don't know when they got

don't draw. And some people other races are saying they're poor and actually poor they shooes represent their clothes and represent their lifestyle, representing and we just actually speak that out of our mouth. And that's one of the worst things we do as a race altime, Like we just claim that because we learned it so early in life to just kind of be like I can complain. I can say this nast that. I can say that ain't good. I can say he ugly, I can say opinion, not

that value. Look at the percentages in the world. We're really not that value. If you want to just take it back to statistics, like we're not that value. So I mean, the only way we can value our stuff is actually adding value to our race as a whole. For sure, standing on something you see, I'll be a boys around the see there what they say, be the change you want to see it? Right, you see them. They don't got the pictures, they don't have no T shirt on there. They just gotta saying be a change

that you want to see. That's where we live about you every day. Like I wanted out, like I get back to the community, because I've seen a lot of people have money who didn't get back to the community. It don't make me to follow my example and something different because they never learned and how we're gonna get better as a race. Like if they don't understand that we you know, we don't gotta fight, we don't gotta argue. We ain't gotta be pushing niggas, bitches and holes to

god damn communicate. Now we got there. Now we're building as a race. Now we can we can, we can step in these other rooms, Like are we upset because they've fin the judge? We're just gonna overcome. Look at the Baby documentary, he like, if you've just seen it from mis perspective, it was so crazy that a lot of people were saying it was crazy. But that's how I think, Like I can truly say that from I mean,

and it's my big brother. Sometimes he tell me, like, you know what I'm saying, bump this situation, Like you know what I'm saying. I'm like, man, I go do that, Like yeah, they said that, but like if I rocked the show, how we ain't win, how we didn't win and we rocked the show. We come from nothing that when you're putting your nothing on another statued like that, grahamar gonna come. He ain't gonna stop working. That's what I see in Baby, like he ain't gonna stop working

and he's name already. Don't want you get what I'm saying. And just that short amount of time, he could have said, if this if that and it wouldn't have came. But it's like humblingly like I got it in the way I ain't even know expect That's why I don't get it. So you know, I'm gonna have twenty of them because I got this one, not from even the work that

I did by myself. And I know I'm great, So I except all my all my what what they say, all your postables, now what they say going to the topic, like what they say, Yeah, I get so all your obstacles to get to the top, to just make me necessarily great. He collecting on that taking everything that comes with it. I mean, it's nothing, it's nothing worse than what I feel like. It's nothing worse than where we come from. And that's where everybody got to understand about

that ship. Like all us from the hood, like all of us was in the in the spot, and niggers in this place that ain't got ship, that don't need that the government pay rent. We got on fly ash shoes and flying closed and ship and we're able to you know, and you and you hustling and ship in that environment. You, I mean, you ain't really doing nothing for the community. I mean, not in that just that way.

I ain't trying to be super safe where I just wish that everybody could kind of understand, like damn, it's some damage and ship we got going on with what we got going on with the community, and we gotta switch. We gotta switch over. You gotta a couple of dollars, Like I mean, you know, everything can just make sense, Like sometimes your situation don't necessarily determine what you got going on, so your heart can be totally different. We

just gotta make this be the game. You gotta do a little some sort of community can't see so they all know, like ship, I gotta get a couple of dollars back, I gotta got damn just do something different to make it be seen where we just ain't in that same light that we we glorified so much all the time. For sure, one bitter sweet moment, like when you're making clothing is um and some other club and brands said that this is when they kind of feel that they made it, but they also felt a little

sour about it. Have you ever seen your ship like boot bootleg, not not necessarily bootleg, but I mean because yeah have to influenced by style. I mean we really don't pay it on mine because we're really we're winning done brand. So by the time they copy something we've done, we're on to the next season that we're not making that anymore. So it's like you just made some old I mean, we just get tired about it when we got when we were young, when we were younger, we

got a little tight about it for that ship. But that's why we work on qualities, That's what I mean. We get inspiration the same way. I mean, there's no way to get I feel like fashion is not a not a blank it ain't a necessary to a blank canvas. It's not like you can look at a blank body and be like, oh yeah, this ship is gonna be clean. Like we know what looked clean, Like you know Dark Deniman teams clean. Everybody know that clean. It ain't just like no ship that's specific to you or Polo or

Loui Verton, whoever. Like everybody know the same ship. Like everybody knows a person like a little and Jack. Everybody knows I mean, everybody know a certain type of shirt. You got shorts, like you got shorts to say you get what I'm saying you gotta do is make them fresh with people like essentials like get like what y'all like feel the clothes like you know what I'm saying, like when material like and never want to come from like because you gotta make a quality available to um

every price range, a lower price range consumer. So from us personthing they can understand the quality we get like they can understand it because I mean at some points you you expand to a quality like this and they're like, I mean, I kind of I started off with a lot of complaints like man as thick as that. It's like, okay, if you want to actually create a vintage or longer lasting brand, I actually made the quality of the brand

to stand for ten years. So it will it'll end up in one of these you know that I want you to have so many that you loved my brand throughout the years or in your prime, that you had a hundred shirts and you end up taking them to the good Will to play them the closet because the kid is gonna go in there and they're gonna get it and they're black. Oh damn, that was too long.

I did see that back in the day. Making light fool all right, for sure, Just making a staple product though, so they kind of just actually grew just to want to have something. Ever, last night we always did joab still So if I'm washing it in his face and ship, it ain't no good to me. I'm mad too, Like I'm going home and I'm mad too, like she damn shirt faded and that new Switch shirt we got there a little pilling. Yeah, we're mad. We we really get pressed.

So everybody gonna be in the call in the morning, like, man, go damn. They might they might be a little scared of the college, say, but they're like shit, they called me because I'm a little more lex and damn maybe like damn, it's simple, that's funny you put on in one. My ship was a little tight around the holes. And then the longo, look crazy, wasn't sucked up? I'm black, y'all that she was sucked up? Y'all se that I already don't like that she was sucked up. I'm in

the collar, I'm in the college, and I'm black. Damn here you're the black Switch. You told her they were sucked up, sucked up all in the new college about they can't feel up what you do when you when you get a back like that ship you do, like put it on sale like this count meeting at the end of the day, he'd be only mistakes that we can notice. You know, we don't really make big mistakes. You get what I'm saying. It's like some measuring size

type stuff. But he comes like you get what I'm saying. Just like out having a meeting. We might have them meeting with three swittshirts. Somebody might get lasting that and they're gonna be like, oh, Shi and Ma and dad me look at them, and then they say, oh, this is the one we're gonna go with. We didn't try. We just had a sweatshirt that was spilled wrong. We had we had three samples and it was it was

spelled wrong and all and we didn't kidchen huh. Yeah, there was on the web site and somebody called, oh that was a T shirt. That was a T shirt. Yeah, we had a T shirt and then we got damn spell wrong right, and we were like si. They called like, hey, yea, y'all know that T shirt on the website speed room like she no, no what. We went through all the stuff that be wanted to be spaill right, Yeah, y'all

we're not even saying. You know that, don't say a lot because ship we in trouble, like ain't no game, like where the sun up? Some money like you're tripping like ware to put a church on that spare wrong, man, Come on, man, take that ship down down like we have a lot of people who give them a lot of ship. We make mistakes. One thing about it. We make it. We make mistakes. You're gonna lose the boning because we're gonna give it away. But damn you can miss up some book bad. We don't give way A

thousand of them mess up to brids. We don't get away. I don't know. So that's too short. Were don't get away. I don't know. M h. They said any else we'll not got big. Yeah, you know what I was saying. So if you're you gotta basically, but it actually gets us a lot more customers than anything. You get what I'm saying, because we have trinkets all year around. We actually make key change to bridge and stuff to give

our customers something. And it's just like when they get somebody get so many it's crazy that we are brand that get maybe twenty complaint emails. I get a hundred thank you because his parents like, oh, I just ordered someone extra small on that and y'all sent me a medium and ship, like how you send me a meeting? And I'd be like, hey, how you doing? It? Was just something I know it's holiday season. I just put

your medium in there. Hopefully you've got somebody you can wrap up a prison and give it away for us, so you don't have two things for your son. You bought the way he need and then you've got something to spread a little. And they'd be like, oh my god, that's that's amazing. You get what I'm saying, Like I got a tool brush, Like why did I get a

tool brush? And some balls in my bag? Like just because I got some underwear and y'all gave me four more pairs, like we gave you all on now you may not ever have on no other underwear Like that's how we build our brand with the socks and things of that sort. It's like that's never leaving your household. Like I see Bank probably once a here two months, but there time I see him, he got on to

this side because I gave him. I know people ain't going to like you know what I'm saying they that mean the new socks still sitting there, So guess what they're gonna be too lon this. They ain't Nike, it, it ain't none of that. So it's like, damn new boy working. I got some too long socks up in here. I need some socks, and now I got on too long socks. That's that's damn to like going to your house, you know, the same sock bas to sit there ATTENDU yield. Yeah,

I got the trade. We got rolling paper money, but the money counts. You count money. Got action figures, we got watches, we got do rags, we got hair brushes, we got too brish hell brush. Yeah, yeah, I know I don't right at one I never needed like so yeah we got that. We got barbercapes, we got everything we got that's all right, Yeah, because we spent some barbershops, like everybody from my hometown. We tried to send um a couple of capes. So it's in every barbershop, even

the barbershops. The barbershop we've been in here, most of the barbershop we've visited here, they have our products. Uh at Lisa brush of a barber cape, a barber we made a barber map. Also, we spent a lot of time. I mean we've been getting fly for We spent a lot of time in the barbershop growing up. So so we got the magnetium mats, just pretty much everything too. We had bikes, skateboards, oh yeah, all that chip we got skateboards. We gave away all the bikes actually for

what was that Christmas? Gave most of them and we were just posting on Instagram on random days. Again at the true we can get away a jeep two of this wrapped jeep. That was about last Christmas. And that was crazy too because they everybody thought we were just gonna do the biggest gimmick in the world. We're like, yeah, we don't give away of car. They're like, yeah, tell us the details. All we did is dropped the Swiss shirt. Whoever bought it, Like, I don't give a damn you

buying stuff all year long. If you bought the Christmas sweat shirt with the Christmas log on there, you got in there. So it was on a hundred and five people. And then we just spent two wee or three times we get wait three, yeah, we gave way three chains three years. I'm saying like documented like from from from from the car, from the drive back and forth, from the fromm we got a lot of it documented. We got, we got, we got, we got, we got some baby

just put out. Yeah, we're building for you know. No, that's ship dope, all right, I need ship dope. We supported billion percent. Oh yeah, we locked appreciate your hand. That's just so virginal and off white man in your opinion, Like what kind of influence do you have on y'all? And and also how do y'all think he changed the game? He changed the game. I mean he made it, and he made it where people like this could actually flourished from from the ground up with it, you know what

I'm saying. I mean a lot of a lot of people didn't understand street fast. I mean I don't understand street fash even in that even in that still in that come step like uh and I feel like they just opened they He made a nice base for m so that we can build from like it's always been there. But it's just like, as black people in general, to just take it to the points that he took it

and achieved exactly what he achieved. It was amazing because he already had a brand that was a successful brain and then he went to rent a little between, so it just opened a lot of doors. And then when he came for loutle Between, it was really, in my opinion, some of the most urban and just forward fashion that we've seen from over in the light time. So it's like she right for sure, like so it influenced a lot.

Actually it actually opens right exactly. So the off white that's stuff right exactly broke all the exactly that right exactly. That's what made it opened it the fire race to make us be able to break those barriers that pretty much he's already broken. Now you gotta try to exceed it. What is fresh? Me easy? I love man man. Let you say it again, O freend fresh. I'm saying it's great. Yeah, we're easy for people have their all perspectives of fresh. But do y'all ever see times in fashion when you

think people are pushing it or stretching? Not because I understand it from all perspectives, you understand. You got to understand that fashion is a forward thing. And you're not gonna understand when you look at my bad Do you want to look at Gala and Galla and all this other ship and somebody just put on some ship. Because that's different. Though, that's not that that that ain't really fashion for you to understand it ain't. It's a it's

an appreciated Yeah, it's I mean, it's trolling. It's trolling the inn the art though. You gotta understand what artists exactly what I'm saying. It's controversial. So that's why. And you're talking about it right now, we're on the we're on the big you know, you're talking about it. That's what it is. That's it's just like at the Matt Gala. Every year they have a theme, so the the whole goal for the Matt Gala is to choose or create the most outlandish outfit within that theme so that you

can be the most talked about. So that's like the purpose. So when you say somebody's ship like oh my god, I can't believe they wore that or whatever, then you say, whether it's positive or negative, you accomplished that. It is a controversial fashion. Yeah, it's different. Conversation piece get different. Yeah, because I still had on what the hell, broad don't know what, you know, like braining something. I got to know who the biggest artist is. You know you're the one.

You cannot not talk about this, Yeah, I can not talk about You're gonna talk about the best his latest gap drop in the garbage bags. I couldn't even know what he do. Yeah. Now you're starting to cross seasons though, like wearing super winter stuff in the middle of summer, and that's what it is. You got to understand that even with the younger generation, we we look for comfort, they comfort as a different way. I mean they comforted them feeling cool. I guess I mean fresh. It's different,

So it's different. You got to understand that rappers never not don't never not wear jackets. I mean the fresh you can only be fresh is when you got on layers. And you know what I'm saying, that's never like a T shirt, never gonna be the jacket. It's no day in the world that you're gonna have on a T shirt and be fresh and in the under the dude with the jacket don't come. So you put on the layers. That's fresh, fresh fresh. You gotta go layers before a shirt,

and you go T shirt before jacket. You're not fresh, like damn not prayer if you and if you get hot in the summer, you ain't cool enough. I'm so cool. Some women say that ship when you're wearing the heels and all that ship fashion. I mean fresh is cool. So if you if you get hot, cool cool to get hut ain't cool because I had on for me and I like when I waked outside that you gotta understand what you even with making fashion? You uh, the kids,

you're gonna get the inboxes. We had to shift to that and make sure we did have a long way available in the summertime, because that's why you gotta do the long tea shirts and stuff in the summer. Told me that you have to have that. I don't stop. I mean, like we don't have as many as a as a wide ride of range that we have in the fall. In the winter, but you have to have hoodies in switch shirts and the I mean that's the

standout pieces. Like that's something with with some brands don't really understand about fashion that you have to move at the same pace as what you see the world rolling that right now, Like I told Bank, he can't see me like he had a micro Swiss. He's like, why y'all got Swiss shoes. You got a Swiss spens some money with them ship. I want that money. You don't buy another Swiss the blue one. You're gonna be from men until to actually know that you're going to have

this stuff before the major consumers have it. Or at the same time, you want to be in the same race of what's going on, so when Black Friday come around, you ain't just getting in your switch because you gotta understand, if you just get shipped in on Black Friday and your bread all the other bread now done, how are you going on the best selling day of the world and you're not having the sale? So you actually just

cut your money. People love to try to save spending money, spending more money exactly because you get more of a product. And it's like, why would I go to another place when I'm already here. When you go to the mall back in the day when they had it, where you actually running the mall to get the stuff that you want to get on Black Friday, I think about it. You wanted to bring your entire family so that hey,

you run, the tars are risks. I'm gonna running get your shoes and we leave here without having to go get any anything else exactly. So if if I have it and I have my black Friday ceiling, you say, and you simply just say the biggest thing that's talked about in a ra is now I want to support black exactly, and I type you in and you gotta see it coming on Friday. Now, I said my loring for you, and now I can get all my nieces and nephews if I like it, everything out of the

way exactly. What's the most the most soul product and um in clothing period? That's hard. It's hard to say. I mean everything having season. Yeah, I mean we I don't know, so we have essential products probably see the most the most as far as friends in general. But I just not not just people, even if you were a jacket teachers, not everybody under we said, we actually have undergoing. It's like our own tea. Yeah. I got the same kind of like white teeth like Polo guys

right about them. So we have our own pack. That's our best. That item the pax PAXI T shirts and stocks right, paxt items always sent items always. So are y'all ever gonna branch out and start making like those same essential items for women. I don't plan to. Why not, man, I mean, it's just kind of harder to cater to women when you're a man, like I don't know what feels good to you. I know exactly, I know exactly how I wanted to. However, think about expanding your design

team and bringing on some qualified females. I mean, that's definitely you wouldn't I wouldn't rule that out. I mean it's money. I mean, I wouldn't rule it out. But right now, I'm just thinking it's happing into another market. No, we have we have women. I mean we have to. We have women drops in one day, so I mean

we cater to the women. I mean it's it's a one day half of the stiff products I feel like get a complaint on because it's it's too crazy for a woman, because I mean, something can have a crazy you had a grocer indiction big enough. We all got kids,

and they all got kids. Formula y'all would kill at this everything, Like I ain't got skateboards because we're introducing that that's a streetwear a product, and we have to introduce that to the culture, just like we have to introduce Southern items to the streetwear coach like matching ship Like Matching SAIDs like that's down South, down South. So it's like that's what we cater into because we Southern streetwear.

You know, you may go up north and they may have something totally biper, like you were just asking about friendship like day and that ship attacking, But to all that color is crazy, Like why the hell y'all got something bright? Ye lord pink of this? Because Nick is in the South behind the doors. They ain't think about that ship. They're going to what goes on. So you have to understand that the Southern trap culture to understand the Southern fashion because the fashion here is influenced by

the trap. It ain't. It don't come from nowhere else. Like everybody who's getting the fresh ship they're getting from what what comes from the streets. So it's like streets first then yeah, and that's I feel like that's universal in South and Florida all the way back to Texas somewhere like it it's gonna be mostly influenced by what's going on on the streets where has what what shoes are dropping? White forces like ship that's based on specifically

different in the South. So I mean, it's just easy to we cater to what we know and that's something that we know, and I mean not consider myself as a person that's pretty fashion forward. And I sometimes I just just like if I if I do it, you gotta do it. That's the kind of attitude I'm holding with my brain. I mean, it's mine. So it's like it's ship I excellent me. You say you don't like what I've made, Sure, let me see how fresh you get.

Let me see what you wear every day, Like we're gonna get you, Like I might get what you got a chance, if you get what I would get. I'm I'm giving a chance. Whether it's like we're just that's the attitude with carrying with it, and it's just kind of like sometimes that works with a brand. Most of the time it works like you gotta understand like you're establishing something for you and everybody. It ain't for everybody. Just cater into what you necessarily know, and sometimes that

audience is what makes you super successful. What you think made it catch you though, what you staying truth to the South, staying true to the South and to ourselves, you know for sure, and the work is you staying to to what you actually know. We could have went off and tried to make a jacket or some ship like that and it wouldn't have It wouldn't have work necessarily. We did this ship how people do it in the South. We were in the neighborhood that people don't go to.

You know what I'm saying, pulling spint, But I'm telling you, I'm a Sabian. I don't damn what y'all over. Youre doing none of that. I came to see a cold y'all want to rob me for them, and I made for clothes. I might let you do it like that ain't what I'm on. But I mean it's I'm a Seville and you're stupid, like you just took something from a Seville. I ain't come up here trying to be a gainst. You'd have took something from me, like you're tripping. I'm on a whole different. It wasn't even be It

ain't gonna be talking about because of the engine. Never, it was never without it. It was never. Now, that's what I was saying, Like what y'all think the marketing scheme was like? Because it was never like niggas was fucking with Nigga's embraced it immediately. I think it was the true work ethic. I mean, we was available, like you called me, I'm coming like you. Weren't too many places that I mean because I didn't close some ship right what I was like, I'm coming in there with you.

And then it was so crazy that we were just so to ourselves with a lot of movements and everything going on. And that's what a lot of people respected because it was like I knew Bank. I don't used to pull up on Thug. I'd have pulled up on Baby. I'd have pulled up on Everybody'd be like, we're gonna go to a show, like y'all want to go? No, like we're gonna go back to the house. I ain't shit,

I ain't right now. I appreciate that everything y'all offering to me, but no, like I ain't really coming like that, ain't but y'all, yeah, I'm telling you, they don't really stop right here. So I ain't really trying to boost like get my ego boost off and nothing that I'm doing. We're just working. So it was just I work it and being where we needed to be, like we was in those places and like they said, really incognito, like

like damn, they were just here. How everybody don't where the hell who I don't need like what they're doing when they got there somewhere else working. Everybody call us and say, hey, I need you to do this for some work. But you actually to come to the club, I might throw you out for a whole year, like it ain't really coming. Like I ain't saying I don't go to the club. I don't go by myself, Like we're just chilling, like I don't like the club that much.

I'm just going up in there cheerful. We don't need to go with everybody else. I mean when you need, you need to do logo anything going into the money contests, you know what I'm saying, Like everything we do is that strictly for us. I mean for us to appreciate. So we don't really you know, involve ourselves. We stay out of the way, stay stay too to all working. You know, sayals for real, I'm gonna throw up out the slide. I'm gonna throwing the energy and manifesting too long.

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