BIG FACTS feat. OJ DA JUICEMAN

what she's saying for for you, bro? Basically, do you want to repeat it? You want me to inflated and make it sound crazy? Blow it up. That's how niggas on the east Side dressed like what what you say, dressed like good wholesome people. Oh my gosh, she said, said, what's up Bank? You good? Smoking? Good today? It's a good strand early. Yeah, got your candle, get your vibe. I like that man, those it is. He looks very you know, Okay, that's what's up. We ain't mad at that.

We ain't mad at that music legend J Juice Man gonna pull up all this today. You know what I mean? Shot a juice Man that's long, that's long overdue. But first we're gonna we're gonna do a little goat talk, you know what I'm saying. Um, I feel like when you go online you open your ears, your eyes and everything. I feel like the word goat, like everybody's a goat.

I feel like the term is used too loosely. It's like goat classic, all this, all these terms of endearment, like an album will be out for ten minutes to be a classic. Everybody's a goat, And I get it, you know what I'm saying. I think it's just kind of like uplift your brothers and stuff like that. But shouldn't we have to work towards or have some type of filter to get to that point of just goat? Like everybody can't just be a goat, like straight off

the porch. I think like that ship is kind of like a almost a reflex in this day and age, Like you say, like, okay, like you hear some ship that's like going crazy, Oh, that's the harder sh it ever, or you hear some ship like oh that nigg is going crazy, or you know what I'm saying, Like going crazy and goat is two different things though, like going crazy. It's like if nigga goes crazy more than once. You know what I'm saying. Not me, but people have a

tendency to associate that with being the goat. But they don't understand that the goat means the greatest of all times And just because this nigga went crazy twice doesn't mean that. Yeah, and nor because if you're listening to some ship in the first two songs on the project Hard, that don't mean it's classic classic. So ship we're still listening to from ten twenty years ago? Yeah, I'm just talking about the filters. And do y'all feel like this

is because I mean I do the same ship. I might not say goat, but I might be like this is a classic because I like two three songs. But Ship, it's supposed to be one goat of each thing, right, Yeah, the greatest of all time? So who's the rap goat? But see that jay Z alright, j Z the rap Let's see what does that mean? Drake can't be a goat? Okay? So I think that we need some different errs. I think different different Yeah. But if you say, of all times,

who's the best? Yeah, Gold is of all time, Like you gotta change that work a little bit, like it can't be of all times, like but that's what it can be, okay, like like a G O. And I think people meeting in the in the in the sense of just kind of like there's kind of like O G. People just use the term O G. Anybody can be anybody can be an A because in O G isn't an original gangster of a certain time, and O G is just an original gangster. Like that's the original definition

of it. I think it's that ain't what they time out when they be called they to mysething. They just called all ni O G go what's about to go? Back? Go back to the the greatest of all time football? Tom Brady basketball, Michael Jordan's a. Numbers, numbers, numbers solidified you as to go, who got more? Who got more than see Marines of the Quarterback Tom Brady, Tom Brady?

So who you on, it don't matter. J's ultimate goal is to get championships, right, and you got the most way that makes you, It makes you to go so but but but but but you know the crazy thing. So we just said money. Now it's a it's a it's possible to make the most money but not have the most championships. Like he got the most money, but he don't have the most platinum pleques. No, you gotta win, No, bro, legend the greatest, you gotta be the greatest ship in

the game. He's a legend. He's a culture ship. Hold on, somebody, it's m J Man. What you say he was? Again? Yeah, I say he's a coaching ship, a real ship. That's what he is like, and that's considered some great ship. But he's not the greatest basketball player of all times. You feel what I'm saying. And then just like and

I love like my favorite basketball player. Yeah, yeah, because he looked like the nigger you saw playing at the gym and the basketball courts like that actually make from the ram or some ship in the hood Lebron what duh, duh duh, it's Jordan's. Yeah. You can't beat a go You just gotta be go the goat, right, Yeah, like beyonces the goat of what of whatever her genre is.

She's almost a billionaire or whatever she got going on, and she has the plaques to show for it, and she's toured and she did coach chilling all this other ship like who else? So just fun Diana Rosst No, see what I'm saying that. He said, there's different errors, like we can't shoot on we got to say who the goat? Goat though streams of all of it. Well, I'm gonna stay out of that. When it comes to

female musicians and ship, I stay out of that. But for rappers, jay Z, you're just saying for rappers jay Z, rappers jay Z? Right? No, so who so so so? Who the female goat of R and B? Mary j Blinde our favorite? She's our favorite, our favorite, hits consistent, and I'm like, I'm more histing Beyonce. She got anybody? Yeah, I think right now Beyonce. But with Mary Jane put out on music in a minute, Mary Janet got to put out another another, another ad limb and she's that's

my favorite, that's my personal favorite favorite. But speak got the most money and the most plaque. You're saying, we can't speak opinions, so so what the funk else is there other than opinions, opinions numbers? That's the covers said, sports, we can measure it by your championships and music. You know, I ain't gonna go. You got ten Grammys, you to go. I don't give you know what I'm saying, like whatever,

you got the Grammys. But if you're on Forbes and we look up and you got a hunted plaques all platinum, platinum, all that ship, I'm gonna go at you. How three decades she she made the money, Beyonce, maybe b Plax. We have to have money to it. We have to have money, make money, money, not make everything. No, it don't. But what I'm saying to everything but numbers the one I think, I think, I think, I think, if I think, I don't know, I don't know what Mary J. Blige.

We don't want to take nothing from Mary J. Blige. Somebody that's already out of the game. That doesn't matter you're talking about because Tom Brady is still again telling the man, come on, Louis V. Man, Louis V. Come on, he made it, come on let him. You gotta get on this, Mike. That's just what said again. I said, I think if you're gonna be called the goat, you should be out the game. I mean, you can't be the goat. Tom Brady is still in the game. I agreed,

but not yet. No whot, Yeah, don't do that not Yeah, yeah, what is he gonna do? Tire serenas to go it? I mean she's getting beat now too that that's not good. Yeah, you get she's getting beat by somebody that looked up to her because in her eyes, but she's getting beat now, yeah, because like said, how can you get disrespected by somebody you don't even respect. You're my little nigger, So like you beating me means okay, like you're buddy. I'm not

saying she's not a ghost. No, I'm not gonna say that, but they're okay, Hey, it has to be. And we're talking about the football goat. It is Tom Brady. I don't care. I retired and I don't take I'm just saying in this situation, yeah, he is. He is a goat. He is no no, no, no go football Okay cool. Ain't nobody got board championship rings in him? If we're gonna talk numbers, that's perfectly fine. But yeah, said music, let's stick to music. The rapper goat is jay Z. Agreed,

it's jay Z. Agree. We can all agree on that. Agree. How many times has he retired? He's retired a couple of times. How many times did you put out an album since the last He hasn't put out an album in the wild, all right, So everybody looking at him, ask but he was here when he when he was in the game, was no, No, he was agout five years ago, bro in five years and ten years ago. Man, it's fifty something, Hello, hello, Hello, Say what you said again?

You said when he's in the game. When he was in the game, was everybody looking at him as to go black album? He was not. I think after the black album he was can say that it was still still was still it was still either bigger pocket, that's right, because we thought he was going to retire. It was like deal makes all of them was still in that in that right and that run. Then I got the

name Avery Graham came in the game. And then what happened now where we started the question, Yeah, what you mean any conversation, any conversation, what what let nick out? Are you drunk? We're doing the phone with the snitch, get the funk out of here with big homie house call that we're gonna make sure that big homies homies houses tripping in this talk about numbers like straight up z,

I'm saying no, we said not then, not now. A lot of people go jay Z and Tupac, I mean to Tupac and Biggie until the jay Z ship happened. Now we have to have the conversation. Soon jay Z took over and soon we have to have the conversation about Drake, right, we just do. Who is definitely going to be is a goal? He's not. But he's put up the numbers, but he hasn't made the same money yet, So you can't. You can't. You can't base this ship off the money. You can't. You know, I got to

drain the goat of what the money else? The money helps listen to what I'm saying, they can get included, but it can't be a deal breaker. What that's the case ago right to what he does. Yeah, you can't have a say about with talking about them and not talk about and we got to find another public all these people who have did similar work, but it's only what those are legends. There's legends, there are legends, there's legends, there's goat. Yeah it's one goat, Like what's who to

go to boxing Floyd right now? Because he's retired, he's done. He would go back man, right, he's not talking about Mohammed Ali. I'm talking about the black neggat that was boxing outside. That was the first black neggative box. No, no, no, not the first neggative booth. His name is Jack Um. Yes you know Jack Dempsey was. I think in boxing you throw if he's not the n but if you

don't remember his name, he's not the goat. All right, bro am I right a wrong, you're gonna remember the greatest name you got A dog is Italian for my last. So what I'm saying is, when you're talking about the debate, the debate becomes Mohammed Ali and may web right for show. But to Mohammed Mike Tyson a legend, legend because he felt from grace because he bent Evander's ear off. He didn't, that's not why Grace because of his life, his life, he talks about it to call these other people. So

these other people are legends. There's a legend you have, goats have got So Beyonce is a legend, a legend right now, she's not the goat yet. Mary showed me who's done where he hasn't done. What Beyonce has. I love Mary, but Beyonce hasn't done what Mary did? Even what was that? What is done? Three decades? Bro? She seen? You gotta What are you trying to say a group? She wasn't She didn't have social media, she didn't have

like what Beyonce didn't have social media? That's they shouting, I have social media something that was created at everybody do now? What was that? What's that first female that really got to remix? Why nobody doing remix? Yes? Yeah, I love Mary j Blood. We got These are opinions, y'all trying to argue. Yeah, yeah, So so what makes you go? That makes you a go? The facts? What makes you a go? In the we're not got what makes you go to the fact should be with the championships?

So what's the championship of music? Let's define that. What I'm saying, it's not the GM makes you go? And what are the qualifications? Is everybody is going to have a different set of qualifications as what makes you So that's an opinion. What's the championship for musicians? If you're a musician, what is your championship? What do you want? The vision? Fucking what I don't think it's awards. No,

I think it's plex. If you're gonna go awards, then you got to give drink his credit plaques, didn't get a Grammy Baby, didn't get Gray. I did say I don't get it, y'all. Yeah, I'm okay. I was gonna go out plaques with music. No what we're going on because you know how many niggers have been snubbed for plaque total plaques. We can't go to play. We gotta go out. We gotta go out for that money. Money, money, influence, influence,

that's what makes you to go. Like the end of the days, you can't even argue about jay z influence his paper. He's got damn moves, moves like a lot of niggas probably would have been the goat if they didn't pass away or if they got themn he could have been to go to their mother. Up, I'm saying he is a go I'm saying he probably would have been the goat if he had had his business. Great de folks got a beating straight. So all that ship fall up on that. Remember we're talking about on one

big your bitches moves. You could your motherfucking your style the way you walk, the way you talk. What I'm saying, we're talking about. Were talked about saying he was the first artist to have a dog. Listen, we talked, we talked about We talked tom amazing goat moves. We talked about on bit fasting goat moves that we got to say a lot of people may goat moves, but we talked about on bit fast before how you control your legacy,

your legacy. So if we go back, really the nigger that fuck the whole goat ship and start using the term we couldn't argue at the time was Coja. When Coolja had this ship all lockdown and he came out with an album called go he started this ship, but he was talking about what we talked about, what the qualifications he take to be the goat need you're talking about, He was the greatest. He's my rapper. Though see a

lot of you pla goat on on. I guess they expertise, you know what I'm saying, Like he probably feel like I'm the best rapper period, not I'm the best dress or I'm the best spoken on the bench, nothing else but the rapper, right, Okay, So we gotta say, who's the best rapper? Go, because we gotta take j he is the best rap artist of all time. Yeah, he's the best rapper. He's the best man exact for sure.

But but but it's more people that I like. I like more rappers over jay Z. Like I prefer to listen to somebody else rap, but I prefer to listen to this, and they talk about business, I prefer over anybody. I prefer to God. Then watch his moves and try to you know what I'm saying duplicate to some extent, you get what I'm saying, like for having my business together. But at the end of the day, and then some of these rappers that I listened to, probably I wouldn't

listen to ship they say about no business. So all we say jay to go now who the boss? And go why? But you just said business did? Because this this is where it gets a little tricky. I feel like if you talk to Mayweather, the inspiration created that, ain't that don't make you a goat Because I'm inspired by something I I was just buyed by crackheads in my neighborhood. Not come out so straight up like they

don't make them need no goats. Yeah, is the goat because that nigga changed, He changed the way the folks got them saying the way they need to get paid. They need to getting real money off this ship, not just for himself, for other people on That's another thing you gotta consider too. So what about the people? Yeah, look how many people employed by them? And what about the people from another world? What about the people from

another world that would of what white wrapped artists? White rapper, he's probably the most the most relevant white rapper ever ever. For sure, he's the the white goat of all time, of all time. Yeah, they can't name another white rapper, order them or you know what I'm saying the end of the day or what they do. But far as the American dream of a rap nigga jay z is so we settled that. And who's the American dream of

a female R and B artist? If you put it in that light, then it will be beyont That's what I'm saying. Like, like coming up, if they showed you if you was a little girl, this time use little jay the littit as girl right now, and this time they show you the videos of everybody's career as a female who would you pick to be? Like right now, you know what I'm saying. They showed you all what they did. But see, we grew up in people now

didn't see Mary j Blie do what she did. But if I go back and show you everything Mary did in her career and show you everything that be didn't her career, who who would you think these females gonna want to emmulate? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely beyond say definitely, That's all I'm saying. Basketball the same way when Nigga's going to the whole who they splaying joy Joy Joy, don't matter what what shoes you got on, what you're

going to the everybody got a pair of Jorge. I don't know too many people to my dog like home he but guess what, they're ugly as fun as that's all country up. Shot at them. Tell them out of feature. Yeah, I'm just sitting over there hoping them. And she's a Sacramento But I always have to say, Jordan, Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Like the end of the day, if you finished through football, got now you want your on to be like braid It on depends who I'm a

Mike Vick fan. We all might be, but you're gonna put Vic on your team before Brady. In fact, it depends on what depends up your job. Viewers, Um, the junior man was general manager. Then let's let's let's start. Let's let's throw one more out actor actor, actress, actors and actress goats. Denzel ain't like and then and then you gotta do that with Pleaux with him and all that. It's just you can any role he played, you can feel like this the truth I get somebody give his money.

We'll Smith, but yeah, but we'll Smith. I looked at you as a rapper at first, so it's just like I ain't I'm talking Fox too. Yeah, definitely, but that ain't know wor man. But does there work different man? Smith? Smith knocks on that. You can damn see every character Denzel play. You can damn see that in him, like that's he got that in him for real? Yeah, Like you can see people like Hold like he couldn't. I see somebody getting the wrong man commit got his faith

tattooed on. There can see that ship Instagram somebody when they got a magal tattoo and let him tattoo. Yeah, yeah, what about female about female. That's what I was just getting ready to. So no, Cincily Tyson. We yeah, yeah, but that was I think she was a little bit before fucking Meryl Street. Cincily Tyson, Yeah, I know that, But we don't know about wind A Bassett. I'll say Angela Bassett just because she played Tina. No, no, that category Angela Bassett. What the kind of punch you got? Bro?

That nigga drinkings the rock at eleven o'clock in the morning and it's the same nigga. Man, don't even get me starting on Hettle Louis V Man. We're about to get ready for o J the juice Man. You know, I'm saying, we're gonna ask him who his goat is? So who to go to trap me? Who's the go to trap me? That's now okay, Yeah, I can't waiting to hear that one coming from y'all. We're gonna we're gonna keep that. We're gonna, okay, let's answer that. This

podcast doing one. That's good. Why do you say, well, you gotta look at what when Trapp really started coming out? So you got him, you got jeezy he applies. I'm gonna tell you what to trap me there with somebody'll tell you what, Yeah, let me go. And so out of all of them people that came out somewhat around the same time, you gotta look at what Gucci contribution

was to the game. Not only did he do what he did when he put other people on the back that that would making real you know, you know who he's still putting facts, you know who to ship. That's gonna make him to go to this shoot. You know, you know what you know and this is healthy conversation. Who would disagree with that? Thirdly, that's what I said. If I popt the Tip was here, he would thoroughly. He's supposed to. Tip is the center. Tip is the inventor of hen trying to say he be trying to

say like he's he is. He is the inventor from Atlantic of trapped music. He first Nigga said what it was trapped music? Everybody but the goat of it is everybody put on because he put like he said he did, everybody t I put on and not take off? Is that what That's the truth? No, Trapp Scott, he had meet milk, he had meat milk too, meet me, took off. He got ross. Yeah, yeah, Tro had a hell of a good country Kang country hard Contro's hard hard yeah, b o B. He's saying, Gucci made stark. No, Gucci

is never get about We can't forge about ecstasy. Now, Ecstasy was making major waves for the ladies stars. Yeah, every every every matter is the true trap guy, trap trap. So why come on, man, jes came in. We been in no disrespect to him. He did his thing. I'm just asking just let me tell you what Jesus did, though, we gotta get him an in credit. Jesus took it to the rich Dope boys ship from from a brand, you know what I'm saying, He took it from God.

Then we gotta get that into that, like he was talking to the street what we're going on right then that would make him even be relevant in this conversation. Like there's a lot of NEU got money to that g I got money to that ship. You get saying like he was speaking this ship like but you just left out my spot stalking this ship, you know what I'm saying. So he's he's uh, he's a legend and what he needs and he's a trap legend and what he like I can't take that from the man. But

he's not the goal period. Yeah, that's like I said, Chill started Jesus took it to the natural level till we're talking about the dope boy isn't running the car at the time. That what we were doing, Like I graduate these niggas at that time, that what he's doing. Jesus can't he more talking about niggas in the spot servant with scales and ship, that's what we were doing at that time. Gucci brought all that ship to the game.

We're gonna wrong, We're gonna do whatever, and we're gonna put niggas on the shits the side of it, the zone sitway so that what it is like all them niggas did what they even even it's it's more niggas, but we're gonna name the niggas from Atlanta so because that's what we're from. But it's more niggas that that put ship in that ship to to make it what

it is. But them three niggs that's what And you know what I'm saying, Yeah, exactly, you got you came back niggas like like the nigga play their part like and what this ship is But like I said, popped it off with they goddamn dope boys ship. Then you brought goddamn Jesus Like I said, we're working scales now. Brought the whole everything that got something to do with the trap to the ship. Yeah, that's got a good question.

So y'all from Atlanta, I'm from South Carolinas. I just want to know, like, when's the first time you heard the word trap? Who was the first rap? And get him mafia for me? For me? Yeah, he took he made it boys in the traps a word and I probably heard first in ninety phone from get on Mafia. That was the first time I heard. You know what I'm saying, But nigga's been saying that, saying that, That's

what I'm saying. That the first. So you can't take it from Yeah, you can't take he he made he made different sea to start looking at na get some street niggas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because no dished the good out care they was. They was on some different ships, but it was it was it was our time like it would play. It was They've got trapped put in the dictionary. Yeah, he made it a household term. Yeah, first time I heard it on Wax was going to mafia.

That's just for shure. Yeah, I don't say like we started getting recognition from the other cities that like with dope boys, and so we gotta get home. You know what I'm saying. We gotta give him that yeah again and showed you that. Everybody to play all three of them. Nigga played them. Now we can say them nigging the trap guards, the trap got what they call it, the

um mount us Mount Russia. Yes, now for show leading, the one on the out, because because one when one want to help do the other, you get one saying all that ship helped each other. To me, yeah, you know what I mean. Facts big shouts out, Big Facts is going down. Triple w Dot Big Facts, pot Dot com O j the Juice Man on the way, the Truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Yeah, it's Big Facts DJ screen, Big Bang baby Ja. We gotta

actual guests in the building. You know I'm saying, trapped legend. We're gonna have a lot of conversation with the one and only, oh Ja, the Juice Man on Big Facts, Big Facts Man, a good real man. I appreciate y'all having me. Man, I've been wanting to come a long time, you know what I'm saying, and just seeing y'all how y'all orchestrated the thing. Man, I'm gonna tell you how we brought with you. And I mean this so we can laugh about it. We have never letting anybody be

to late. The big fact I said, I said that said, that's our jew move man, And so I mean, and then I stayed so fucking far from here, you god damn. So, I mean they're good for me because you know, coming from the screet when niggas tell you nigga's goddamn like on some ship like for nigga tell you and you got now forty minutes from where you're actually working, that nick gonna turn out like both in here, didn't he get? Yeah? Through five counties, we got sticks in the cold. Hell

not turn around. They might not be right too far, but yeah, yeah, So I just try to you know, I just stayed far from where I play at. That's real. So where you've been, that's what the first I want to know musically, where you've been physically just in your life. I mean I've been, I've been in the same thing.

I never trained my flow. It just when when the business went bad with Deep them and me learning the business instead of just being the artist, I started doing everything independently, so I my my huge backing that was pushing me it kind of you know way, Yeah, that's something that has reckons out, like keeping I'm keeping the movie. I'm cool on them. You know, I'm cool on fair enough enough. So you've been on your independent ground. Only

complaint from your fans and they want more music. They want more music, and my slow ass don't begin on videos when I load them up with music. But I don't do videos, and I don't know black I want to do it, and then uh fucking the day I'll be trying to set it up to do it. I wake up and I'm like, man, I don't want you this ship, I swear, and I'm like, man, I gotta stop doing the cause I noticed Defolt want the content visuals with the music. Yeah they yeah, they might want

you music. Defolt want to see this ship. You know. The moment where a lot of people can't the juice man fans was when you did that Hood of Fests freestyle. So you got to treat the videos like that. They called me and see it. Well, we're shooting. I run my fat down. I was like, I got to be in new when you're right to the folks want to see that stuff. They want to speaking of Gresham in

the East Side. And you know what I'm saying all of that, it's a lot of people that are familiar with you, but they don't know like the origin, what exactly it's thirty two entertainment and where did it come from? Okay, what does the thirty two mean? Like all that kind of ship. Break that down for us. Okay, I'm gonna

break it down. Thirty thirty two n t come from me standing at the top of something valid at the bus stop and for and for those that I don't know about the bus stop, Okay, something valid, Okay, something valid is departments. I grew up in right off of Boat of Chris and the bus stop was for people who didn't have transportation. It was like your local transportation. You could pay to get you the certain spots. And me sending at the bus stop all day. But I

ain't trying to ride the mortar bus. So and at thirty two coming back to back and two, the bus thirty two is they say thirty two to Chris on the Mortar bus, and so I'm like, ship, I'm gonna name my ship third because that's all I know, that's at the bus stop all day for life. And I'm like, I'm gonna name my joint U thirty two E N T Man and and I've been running with that way

before I signed with Dell. You know what I'm saying, Even when I was doing the hype man stuff for Goochen and whatnot, just trying to really get into business and whatnot. It's always thirty to always entertainment. I remember when you first started with this ship. But when you feel like you started taking ships here like oh I can do this ship. When we was in the leab U when we saw all do to leave on more and I go in there and pay dj Andre fitted all of the get ready to yeah and get dre

fitted all of them. I had about two hundred maybe one anywhere from a huntred the three hundred worth of wars, and when I performed, I was I started off with getting money way before quarter brick and then I just always throw the money. And I'm still yeah, just be throwing the money. I was trying to make it look

good because it was got down. I'm like, oh ship, I might o my got it, I'm like, and then I started doing the ad lives, and folks will catch it to the ad lives then what I'm really rapping about. So I'm like, oh ship, So this has probably had to been like with oh File six, I didn't really because I started with okay. I used to just stretched okay, and then I thought I started doing them okay, okay. You know what I'm saying, Like that right down so on like shipt up the run because it got the

bounce to it. And you know, we come from getting dope book talk cutless eighty three cutless or eight six eight eight box shiving and we got a little thing. We're back in the day we used to do this, like coming to a red like and you got the beating your trunk folk twis or whatnot. You start whipping. You might wheel to the level, wheel to the right like you always music. We get you know what I'm saying about. That's I always looked at me making the

a's or whatnot. You think it's harder to god, then stay focused on the on the rap ship when you know you know how to get money to do others like sometimes true because yeah, yea, because sometimes the other thing could consume a lot of your time. And with the music you got, you got the lowdr category up with music like you got to stay recording like it was. At one point in time, I was like, man, forget music. Man it is I like it, but from all the

bad business. And then the money ain't coming in how

it used to be on life, you know. But hey man, you know brow I'm cool with it, but it ain't paying the bills if you So let's say, let's say you're in the booth and you in the middle of a song, you're jamming the ship, and then maybe your phone go for a play, hey man, Apple saving and then I get back to you get to it because I always leave my studio, and then I kind of noticed they probably wouldn't be missing up my own my my Mike pre Choose because I don't went through like

three three Mike pre too, because I just always leave it on because I never know when I just need to go in here and record, and I think I damaged some stuff doing that because I don't switch Mike pre Choose at least three to four times. What time do you feel like in the South of US be getting bought the most that and you show you the most love. M hmm. And they got to be the Carolinas for show Carolina Everybody three money, You're Gonna Eat Man, And they just like good music and and and what

I noticed about Carolina they at the party. You know what I'm saying, They like the party. Carolina is just one of my biggest I used to super be big and Chicago, but with that no radio buds, it kind of shimmer you down. But my main that's gonna book Carolina, North and South Carolinas is more grass room. Like you

know what I'm saying. They really listen to music and stay with the artists as opposed to so you think that's a part of make you want to just keep doing the ship like the love you get when you're going to the township and that and the people that be on my social media like bro, I don't start where we love you, um where you really really taught

the stuff? And I never really looked there like that be could then when I do think about it, like now, I do be breaking down a lot of stuff that a more actual person win breakdown, Like you gotta think about when I put make said made the radio. I'm like, really, the first person to a brick broke down on radio. I never looked at it like that truth. This is truth. And I worked that record three years. They told me that record one never make radio because it's too too

much reference. Y. Yeah, and then they end up blowing I'm getting mine out the water. Come, I'm getting money will posted being my main first single. I think Copper Chicken was the one that got and they slept on that because of the fact when they put it out they only put it out one verse. But I had an original original Copper Chicken with three verses. Bro. But when they did that, when they did the other side of the trap album, they only put they put the

version out with just one verse. Yeah, what's up? What's up? So before before you pulled up, we was having this healthy debate about who is the goat of trapp many, who is the go to trap music? You know, I'm gonna say me because okay, you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. I don't just created nobody else or what they say they do, but I do this that we we we, we we saluted Gucci because Gucci opened up a lot of doors through a lot of it. He still is a lot of doors trap music, right,

So it Gucci? Who else? We didn't take anything away from and everybody else because you know, Jeezy brought the rich nigger aspect to it because he took the ship from the nick to a break, but Gucci encompassed the whole entire thing. And on top of that, he's still like pulling niggas out of the trap to this day and like getting them real bad down. And then we threw out there Jeezy too, because we think it's proper to. I mean, jeez, this one. They were having glutenwood day

back and I forgot what you do. They probably had been Old three Old Fold maybe I don't know. I want to boot count. Oh it was like all four they're doing. And that's when the Trap of Dafford came out. I'm playing that right now, the old car. Everybody in the car like I would have going to crazy. And we ain't know him from a can of paint. But hey, we like to do music, so so what's up with you? And Gucci? Were still on good times. We're still on

good terms. I was just uh at the birthday don on the o other night, he's still in solid you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, I know. You gotta be happy to see his progression. Don't like true saying to be married as a kid and just getting his money and mine right and the man she would have come from, uh fucking picking up cans and knocking on

dough to take trash. Huh impartment with a trash taking out to give us a dollar two dollar dollar film dollar for me or if it's a dollar, will bust it down fit to fit the walk to the test co get something well, I know, goose. Before we moved to something that we come from mountain part of coast, the avenue back with the Nintendo, I just steal something Nintendo. He used to let me borrow somebody. That's that's accurate

description of that time period. And then we moved the something that like they moved it something at the first. But I had another buddy named Dude who I used to spend night at his house too, and they from a mountain park too, And when he moved the sathing bad that I spent the night over his house and something that but Gucca was already up. So I went home and bid my mom, like, bro let move the

something valley all my friends over there. But we got the and then we moved to something that wow, big history on big facts. So some other things. Um, when you slim down? Was that was that? I know you you diabetes? Everybody I was. I was two hundred four pounds so I used to well fucking forty two. So did you did you? Did you? Did you start working out? Or you just change your whole diet? Because I mean I did change my die because with the diabetes, what

you have to count it is the sugars. With the sugars is your total carbo hydrate. You have to watch the sodium because the sodium make your feet swell. Um and no, and see I just changed everything. I went from regular drinks to diet drinks. Everything died. Uh, THEMN up, all the food baked, no salt, that the season with

other ship even um. And it really it's just it hit me out of nowhere because I want to say I got diagnosed with diabetes, and oh eight, I got diagnosed diabetes one week and then I got shot eight times another week a week later and then in the midst again. Shot. I'm coming from the hotpital with this new thing talking about diabetes and defaults telling me you heal different. You ain't gonna hear this ain't so be

careful and watch your feet. So when I get shot, oh god, damn d a shot, I don't fuck up. I got diabetes over to be fucked in the game. And then I still got like a because the bullets they hit my right leg it uh fund us some nerves so it feels like needles when yeah, um, but I was still trying because I went to a fucking I let grad Greater hospital get me. Uh what they were getting me fit centified? All the run tiss on young people with diabetes. I don't know. I don't know

what this ship will. My dad didn't have, my MoMA didn't have, but my dad side got it bad and my mom's side got it bad. Man. And when I got this ship on, like lord, why me? What the hell did I do? And then I was still cheating because I started off as type two where I was taking the form and Peter, but I'm still cheat with the candy. And then motherfucker go bad and I go to type one, so type one. You gotta stick. Yeah, I stick three times a day. Shoot and see you

pulled to pick your fingers so many times today. But all that fingerprink it make my hand look like a jake. You vee him like I'm just gonna shoot, you know what. I ain't gonna keep God damn and my hand looking like a crack smoker, you know what I'm saying. Like, So I did maneuver, had maneuver. Watched I know when my sugar kind of going up because I stayed dehydrated. I keep pissing dehydrated to keep pissing, and then my bones and go to feeling like just weaker hill like

you know, just you got no energy. You just wanted to slay down and just sleep, you know what I'm saying. So I'll be knowing it's time to shoot now. I know one thing that the diabetes ain't stop you from doing. And you're the person that got me on it. You should be the supposed person that's going to that damn papa. Those man I know that ain't stop you with that papa. If you listen to you go to Houston, if you

listen to the I'm buying shit, I ain't never heardrow again. Yeah, my little chur and a little being a hunter though I don't know what they like. They just for the food or because the chef do what you do in front of you, you know what. Yeah, the whole performance, I'll make the fire come out of the cones and stuff like that. Yeah, that was my first time I've ever seen fire come out of a money. And if he's a stop today? What you think people remember you from?

Just remember they remember O J. The majority of the people probably will remember me as the a mantle m m oh, you're talking about the quarter brit Man or something like that, you know what I mean? That's that's what I think. How how did that whole situation go down when that a little came out? Damn? I know my heart will stop when you first a soldier boy using it killed me. Call. I'm coming from like Brian,

didn't let from nobody to get anything. I mean, I worked niggas might have thought you brought me in, but now I came in on my own. I came in on my own. We were just homeboy and shout and blew up for I did I come home from chain game with Boot? It was a chain game boot camp and my supter come pick me up from down the road? Um. Why was that? Um it was a French Scott State boot but in the middle of Frankie Scott State prison. Um.

I can't remember what part of Georgia. It was. Down the road my senses come pick me or she like so I can caught. She had mer CD back like, oh buddy, but I don't put a CD yacht. I grabbed him, motherfuck like ohm fing to try and see. I started h it was the tray when he got with because she the CD the screat drop with wol them when really just did like that. I mean, he

had good records on it whatnot. But when Home got with Big Cat and they get the tray ship, oh man for me made it like oh, I'm like, well I made it with Home, but we come from like I took but we were knocking on the door. Can't we take your trash shot? Picking up? Can't walking with the trap bag going to say the can to the aluminum spot? Yeah? And then when he made on like

oh but I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try trying, but the track here yeah, And then I had my rap first route name was gold mouth and I had everything on me, everything once I get a deal everything. I'm saying that that was my first first introduce you to a O JD. You man right here, Yeah, you know

what I'm saying. Then I had a second following call attention on that, and I wrote that from the boot count because when you get up in the morning and the sergeant or whatever, the boot comp drill thing, if it's a male, you gotta say you're tentioning on that one sir, good morning, sir, tenching on that man, good morning man. So I made me a song attending on that, tending on that. You know what I'm saying. But I got it from doing the boot camp time. Yeah, would

you open the lever back up? Yeah? That motherfuna? What is it? Not? Well? Libor the one on It's been been through, the one on aggressive, It ain't that. It's just there. Yeah, like bigger Loans, aren't they got some ship? It's like it's some ship next door to it called um, what's the ship come from? Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but that's all really is Joes leaving h Yeah, we gotta think about like he come front the leave back when we was on moreing again Andre feted off, standing DJ. Yeah,

that's hard man, another boundstone in your career. Man. I know it's a little bit weird to talk about this, but how was it working with R Kelly? Like? Did you get to sit with you? Just it was some computer ship. I didn't get to meet him. I know they had put the call in and she our killy

got this record. He wants me on, but he needs a hook and then um I went to oh will what it was a producer that produced a lot of record from Willie Wheel or something like that Wheel something well, And when I got over, he was playing the feat. I'm like, damn, motherfucking heart. He's kind of R and B s but it still got the little trap box to its like you know what? Boom. I went to riding the hook. I did one hood and I didn't really like it. I'm like, I don't know if you're

gonna fit. Our kids come talking about too much dope, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, you know what got them turn the dope down a little bit and try to wrap a back? You know what I'm saying. Something different what I'm saying. So I walked in the club again, super Man. Hi. You know what I'm saying that you try to keep it on some club is but not dope is all the way. Yeah, you turn that record up to yeah I did. I think I

did good on that on whose phone good? And then we went to New York and shot the video and the trenches only got the New York ship different. Yeah it is. So could anybody get you the right check to sign at this point because they're gonna see this ship, they might think you're not even open to it. If somebody coming to right bad and the right situation and now you you know what I'm saying, you're right, yeah, yeah, but I got to make sure that paperwork right. And

that's why I fought the furgo round. What I'm saying, Why you're saying paper what? What rolls your last paper? Folk? Kill me? But no money, not the or the side of the trap. Make the trap say hey, I'm getting I can't getting not one coin from that, not show money what you're being the one hellp signed paperwork? But yeah, but your lawyers say in the end, the man Black hit me with to let you out there a contract

so you can be free. You gotta let her have everything for the other side of the trap for your life, and ten years after your life, you lying who said who I was signed to? I I come out the hot pital to sign the paperwork. I got dirbeat. I've done or died on the folk flow with diabet can't move. My girl had to come get me and took me straight to great I'm throwing up black ship, yellow ship, just everything whatever is in my stuntch right now because

ten years ain't no, it's up. Yeah, I've been. I've been away for the folks like eighteen fourteen something like. But they're saying I cannot come back and sue for the other side of the trap for my life in teen years after my life. So after you died ten years after that, my kids can try to get somebody from their dad the first who even ship business? Man, this ship business. I don't know what the business, but this ship business. WHOA. That's a tone though, blacks. Hey man,

I don't know, man, right, I don't know either. I don't know because I'm on the other side of the track, right, And see this big fast we speak openly that there's two sides to every story, and we don't know what the other side is true. You know what I'm saying. But you know I can't capt for nothing. I ain't never kept coming in this ship. I ain't capt for photo ship. I'm not from the cap now, like that's why O J. The Juice Man, really if you noticed, But I got away from the folks. It was all

bad super mony stone m supermaney like. But but you know that for show that they get, nobody didn't. Nobody didn't know how to handle the business ship. Okay, Warner brother couldn't give me the money directly because I'm signed to mass A Entertainment, So basically all payments went to mass and from ms A she give me ten maybe twenty. So I ain't gonna I ain't gonna harp on. You know sometimes when there's a business, right, I think we've all been trying to I'm just trying to see like

I don't see that though, how you don't see it? Okay, the high start always with the always be the back when it was so icy. Hey, they're booking their own show. I ain't come to the if mom, the O J. J Man c D got my book and Norman been doing that from day one because I know what I was trying to uh, maybe I have to do some

hype man ship to get my CD wood doo. Yeah, ain't treating that boom there call him my spotting the same I'm loaded CDs are I'm pressing them up myself now every midstape I did, I'm pressing them up my ship doing ten thousand cops. She coming there, bit, I got the j's on the floor bag and this ship up. I got a fucking walls and posters flyers to my own mother. She coming up. You know what it is?

You see screep money, the screep money and shouted, know what he won't you know what I'm saying, woo okay boom. In the midst of we re called doing ship boom, I can't dive beat it on my first show and roaring over Gine come back on Seek Ahead, laying on the floor and there. Then they did blood Sugar nine haunted on thank God you're here. Brother. You know no, I'm a person blood not want feel but you want seventy you on the verge of some diabet that type ship.

So my ship was now, honey, I'm done. Then I told I can't move screen. I can't even get up out the floor. Boom, go to the ju and let me take you to the white folk. They won't. I'm still maneuver in the street. Let me see all right, Boom, get out the hospital from the diabetes. On like a Thursday, I got shot. That next Sunday got damn boom. Now she got to come in to hopit again. But the time, you know, a crying could nigga really wounded, you know,

and they're like, Jude, what are you doing? Let me get you to the white folk who do so I'm like, you know what, all I wanted my ship oh the way and thirty two n T. I ain't tripping on no super big money. You can really tripping about no money because I felt like I had some screep money, not in knowing you post get money and ship. He poke poke Pooguese money and signed. So boom. I come from out the highpital and I looked at there like a mama. You know what I'm saying. Okay, she got

pretty eye, she like skin. She reminds you of am mama type person. Whoo whoo. So I'm like, you know what, when I get out of hospital from this shooting, I'm coming straight to the office to sign mhm, get out, go down, crichid and something like that long table. Everybody in the motherfucker signed the paper, everybody clapping, crying, happy wood woo. Then I did the show on the Christchid like a day later, not knowing the paperwork was out bad.

I signed it with nobody around. No lord, you know that like oh the weed come on with you say you can do it? They do all I want to Old William and thirty two n T on my seat. M hm, so you you you would you say you you now? In hindsight, man, I approached the business wrong. I think there's another side of it. But and then on top of that screen, I was fucking just trying to be the artist, like I didn't build relationships with

certain motherfucker like radio personality look like key people. I'm going out with you say dude, go here all right boom. I'm just doing an artist ship. I don't want to know to be it. Yeah yeah, because I'm thinking ship going right right. But the actually at Bright I didn't make no money off that. Damn You know. Men as they come from me, they fucking two fitted for a beat. Two means they kind of feel a little bit apart

because he didn't know. I didn't make not one coin from the album, and they like, damn, you shudn't pay for the beat. What them folk did was too three before or my best mix tapes, got the best songs and made an album. They didn't pay for beats, they didn't pay for mixing the master. They got stuff that I paid for you my face cart, for studio time and stuff like that, and then made an album out three folk mixtapes, you see what I'm saying. So they

felt like damn. A majority of the album was always a's. So what would you say to a young nigger so that because the past is the past and nothing can do healthy, you know, saying you get money, what would you say to a young nigger to prevent another young nigga from having to go to that man? Take your paperwork to somebody. Don't sign out the gate j A putting up no man, Let somebody who know ain't got common sense with music terms inside of a contract and

let them oversee and con fine through. So what was in this ship? Man? I don't know. I just signed to that day like you had to see it now, like it was all bad like, and then on top of that, she was supposed to get you know, manager get but on the show ship out thousand, the show back then, and then that that wouldn't even really no money. But I'm doing third Friday, said Sunning. So I'm picking

up santified hunting. I ain't looking at the fact that the first getting soaked up somewhere else, But ain't nobody on Stay Hole they looked so doing all the rapping. Swint like me, why here you getting fifth? I didn't know. I'm I'm paying her filthy, but being on top of it, I'm paying the road manage to twenty. I'm gonna ask clarity because I don't see That's what I was saying. I don't see I don't see documentaries. I just just

for clarity. This is just for clarity. There wasn't saying as there wasn't Jackson, there wasn't No, there wasn't the boy. Oh that was there a big if we just want to answer this, was there a big money advantage jury, advanced car house, advanced ship like that? Because I don't see other documentaries with the handling your business your sheep

when when I first signed what they'll give me ten. Yeah, she gave me team and not cool with that cam like I don't need the money, but come on with But then on top of the team, you gotta show, gotta show Friday. You got what I'm said, do what you're picking up. But you gotta think about like a nigga agree with certain ship until they find But it was saying, see like this thing means they sent and sent would probably agreed greed upon. I get. I get

what you're saying. What I'm saying, this is what niggas do. Niggas got that coming something. And then the mother tell you like I gonn we're gonna bust everything ain't down, but need to tell you're gonna bust everything down. Now, Okay, you don't want to do on the sweating and ship you go to feeling like this, but you agree to this ship and we're fucked up. What you I'm talking about never agreed to that. I'm not agreed, but listen, I'm want to keep it, RealD with it. If you

went and perform, you agree to it. If I wouldn't another time, I didn't know it was fifteen thousand until I get the Lloyd's involved. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm getting I'm making Johnny Pool contracts now because I'm gonna put the loryer on your head. Oh so that you said, Oh man, you're thinking, you're thinking you're going to get the SENTI again, Yeah, boy, the road knowing about their first So when I do, when I do find out the deposit, she hit me with old juice. That's going

back into the company. You know, they helped the company builds you. But I don't own a company, right, the company in that mind? So why am my parents for coming to death not mine? Yeah? Yeah, damn. So you would say to a young nigga, get get a lawyer, read your ship, but please not another another thing to let me say this. Let me say this to the young niggas or whatever. It's important to have a lawyer

to read your ship. But the most even more important part about having a lawyer is having a lawyer that's independent of the people, that of the people for giving you this paperwork. Because if you get a lawyer that's InCor hoots with the people that's giving you the paperwork, you're double fucking, which you might get double back a few years later. Time he was a conflict of entry. But ship the mind gone and where they're gonna get

it from. So if you sign artists. I tried, but I ain't made no coring off of nigga didn't do right all. I asked the nigger to do Bro, do open my bro. We feel like we too be a to do open mic. Bro, We've been on the road with you. Damn. Then that's thirty two entertainment. Yeah, I can't hear you feel like you to be able to do open Michael. You've been on the road with me. You've been on the road with me. This is my ship.

Nobody to know you. I'm trying to make motherfucker's no, I'm trying to give you what even though I can't. Niggas can't say I'm gonna do what you did because them timeing in here. We need no social media when we were gonna leave. But I was just getting on a perspective how I started. I'm going every open mic I can, and I'm paying the DJ drink with us. But I'm gonna perform. I'm gonna perform and I'm gonna throw some money too. Yeah, y'all gonna see this ship man, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

j Man. I might got a bad God damnit, bitchy my truck. I signed on the phone. Yeah, I ain't ain't nobody ain't I ain't. Nobody gave me ship no hand U really, that's what's up? Man? Before you're gonna make a little dounce with a big fast So the streets want to know. Why wasn't there ever no o j the juice man, my goofball lass listening to niggas like holiday, they pulling up even though you pulled up on,

I pulled up on, pulled up. You did me. I don't know, man, niggas in my ear screen, but they always go ahead, do him first, do him first, and then in the missile doing them. He called the next nigga like a drama. Do him, you know what I mean. But at the whole time I should have did a screen, but the wrong people in my in my ear just a little and then they read the perfect time because screen got the streets. I was and you know I won't be. But I was a little touchy about that

ship because I was a ben screen. You hate rappers, I don't hate rappers. Touch you what you when it comes to ship, I'm a fan. Do remember, I don't know if you remember I walk up to you a crucial low performance. I walk up to you as me and real like bro fucking with you, like I'm listening to this ship, I'm working with you. You might have been hot, what do you might not remember? But I

was a fan. We're on the way back talking about you know, the low tap was big, gonna be big for everybody, but we don't figure out how to do it, how to get the ship out there, the networking, all this and the ship. So I'm ford to man, you hit me with the yeah, I don't do this holiday and drama to come back, and god damn, the wrong people man want with with the scree is like, it's so much to try to do. You're doing screen any and you're so low. I had wrong people, had wrong people. Bro,

Everything happened when it's supposed to. So let the record be shown that that motherfucker the only way screaming on the way. The records are ready. I just fine tune everything to give them car radio, car radio ready, club speaker ready, and it's trapped sale phone ready inune video though I'm gonna look step behind video. We had to use this one video. I'm in the preparations of doing a couple of videos from the tape. We gotta add video I'm gonna put. I'm gonna put like twel song

maybe a five video. Okay, now I'm telling I already got this so online, dude, I got the business one, all right, come find you. Shouts to drinking for putting the play big shout out. So like, so, what would you say to a nigger if he if he said to you or just some bober shop talk man. Trapping dead and all the trapped music, ship dead, all that ship ain't no money and that ship what would you say to trapping dead? Mit? You crazy? Why this ship ain't gonna die? It's money to be made in both words?

Why you think white white? What you think inspired people to change that part of the hustle or some people won't even go that way like they because I mean, it ain't for everybody, like it ain't for everybody. Um, the streets, the cold and screets don't love you, but you can't get mine out of I ain't no love and screets, but you can get if you know how to do you and maneuver, you can be successful in musical screen. And that's say, man, yeah, you know, and

you know, have a nice trip you out. That's it's coming to a space where at some of that traffic is legal. Like yeah, nigg we I seen that we went. We don't need on the federal level. No moment. Come on, man, I can't be mad at day I got sent some of them nigga home. They rail road behind it. True how they did it like that. Y'all don't decriminalized it. But y'all got people still inconserting you, right, and then get them volts on they legalized. They need to get

them volts on. Reparations. I was gonna make something legal that you don't got no game some of your life away. For give me something. It is not ge nigger reparations the slaves reparations that they acting like they want to. It should be some type of loans put in place for the nigga's bed. They out them, Shiro nigga. Y'all locked me up for this ship. Forgot to get out.

They're gonna come out cont the feelings right if they do that more exactly, I think if they do the more that it expunges the records people they do that, Okay, okay, so I hope we can put it in the atmosphere. Yeah, shut it out there. What you want to say to the people, what you want to say to the streets. Man, Hey, man, you man ain't ain't did you man ain't gone? I still, I mean, I got hell of music, gut that I've been putting it out just it wasn't a real bit

bag and behind me show. A lot of people might have missed it. But the true jew Man fans they do be, they do grab, they do grab, and I just want to let everybody know, man, they're still thirty two e and teeth for like bit shout out to everybody. They're wrought with me and I wrought with them. Jay Black, Dave Screen, I ain't know y'all name shot. You know what I'm saying. I'm just aside. I'm sold, bro, I'm real. Third, I moved solo dolo. Um, I am gonna put vision

was with the music. Ain't I pick its wolf? Gonna call you now, gonna call you that don't go to I mean, I'm just I got I'm back motivated. Go ahead, Yeah, I'm back motivated. That's what it is. Man. Thanks y'all man for having me at the Big Fat Man Man. Yeah, juice Man on Big Fact Triple w dot, Big facts pot dot com, Big Man and DJ Screen bring you big fat hey Man solway up that merch es Yeah that's right. Www Dot Big facts pot dot com. What the real one one time y'all come get y'all some

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