BIG FACTS feat. MILLYZ

is everything. We definitely had this in the conversation for some time, but I think this, this is the perfect time, and everything really quickly before we get started, I gotta stay shout out the chance, definitely shout out the shot lashes and cheeks, chances the future, shout out, shout out of right, millies, Millies. What's going on? Man? What's on your mind today? What's your move? What's your what's your vibration? I'm good, bro. I'm like learning, like how to be

a nationally recognized artist is different. Been him like where I'm from, I've been him forever, but now for the first time, I'm really learning how to like have an artist grind and what it takes, Like the last sixty days have been hectic, had been just draining on your body, like the type of you know what I mean, the type of situations you ain't constantly. I'm used to basically being able to do some ship and then fall back for five days, and it's not like that once ship

starts heating up. But I'm taking every opportunity, you know what i mean, because it took a long time to get here. So I'm just I'm I'm learning and I'm earning, you know, I mean, what's you what you think that moment was that kind of took you from being let's say we used the word underground underground artists to I still feel like I'm an undergrad. I feel like I'm on underground superstar. I feel like that's like a like a category that needs to be out there and wrapped now,

especially nowadays were like streaming and ship like that. There's a lot of underground superstars like but on my guess, the moment like I really started to crack through, like on some national ship like the BT Cipher two thousand and sixteen, I finessed my way in there. They put me on National TV. I was the only rapper probably in the history of the BT cipher to be in there with no U, with no PR, no label. Hold on you want on schedule to be Oh, I wasn't

on schedule. Bro I knew a cameraman, you know, Chris Robinson, the director, so his son, little Chris, he shot the cipher in Brooklyn. It's had like a warehouse, and he would tell me, um yo, just pull up and maybe somebody don't show up. So on two thousand and fourteen, I pulled up. I sat for three days. I was hoping, like damn, I hope somebody don't show up. It ain't happened. Two thousand fifteen, I get to drop on the location again, I slide back. I'll wait. This is when Kendrick Lamar.

You remember when Kendrick Lama said something I'm the King of New York or some ship like that. So it's like a little tense I remember that ship he came through did his BT cipher. I sat for those three days. The next year two thousand and sixteen. Now, mind you, I got bars this whole time. I know what I'm gonna say, and I know him. I out wrapped everybody in this motherfucker if they let me in. But I'm sitting there the first day in two thousand and sixteen.

I'm prepared to sit three days again. I'm really prepared to do this ship the twenty years like. But yeah, the first day in two thousand and sixteen, I'm sitting there and uh, and they tell me, yo, somebody missed their flight. So I'm like, oh, it's lit. So a little Chris is like, I'm gonna send him a links and ship. So he sends the links to like Jesse Collins and yo me and um the lady Michelle I believe it's her name, and he's like, yeah, they got

your links. They're looking at your ship right now when I see him looking at the phone, but they just look wild, unimpressed and ship. And I'm at like the catering table where everybody's at and I'm like, you think I should go over and talk to him, and like, yeah, sh shoot your shot because it looks ugly. It looked like it was clipped. Like they just look wild, unimpressed. And I caught up. I walked across the room. Everybody

in there. It's like like hotbridge, like eight boogie and was in there, like I think Russ was there, like maybe not in the general um place where I was at, but their camps definitely like a lot of people, probably like fifty people in there. I walked across the room and I'm like, um yo, Millie's whatever. Just I tried to give him my little spill and ship like that and uh and he just cut me off. He's like wrap bro was blown. I'm like, I got my nerves up,

like I just I just got to wrap him. But I'll be having certain bulletproof wraps, you know what I mean, and whether I'm so, I could be wild drunk, I could be an Antartica and the Blizzard with a tank top on him. Remember this ship, you know what I mean. So I went to wine of my bulletproof wraps and I'm nervous, so like I got nerveus so like my voice fake cracking while I'm wrapping this ship. But I know I got that ship. So I get eight bars through.

They're still looking down on the eighth bar. They kind of like look up. I'm like, all right, I got the attention. By the twelfth bar, I feel like I get a little like you know, a little head Bob and ship on the sixteen bar. I rapped probably like twenty bars and shipped on this near the bought. They were all smiling but just a little bit like not giving me too much play, but like just a little bit, and they're like, all right, we're gonna huddle up about it.

But I just felt good that I got it off, Like I don't want to leave nothing on the table in life. Who's the first person to reach out to you? After that? So after that, so yeah, they came back and they said are you in the cipher? Boom put me on that ship aired. I ended up leading off the awards, you know, I think it was down here, Yeah, yeah, it was, yeah, And so I let off the awards. Um my ship was actually blown because I came to Atlanta and they didn't air my ship in the little stadium, right,

so I'm like I might be clipped. Then they aired it twice on National TV, so it was lit. But um yeah we did it. It aired in the Charlotte Magne was the first one to uh to say like radio yeah, was like she was like, yo that that white kid Millie's went crazy and v CO signed it and yeah, she just started like getting lit from there.

And that's when I was like, all right, I could really do this ship because before I had just been going and I have been getting like paid features and being him in Boston, but it wasn't to where I wanted it to be at. And that's just showed me like, all right, now that ship realistic. And I just followed up with that ground like year after year and now now we had big facts, man, big fucking facts. Man.

What's the coaches like in Boston? Like song from Cambridge just like a little different, but it's right next to it. I don't know, Like what's the girl who got the song about a landing? She's like, you're not from yeah, So it's like one of those situations. I got something from like like right outside of the So from Cambridge, Like we got a lot of basketball players. We gotta like Cambridge like a melting pot of people, the most

languages that spoke. We got like a lot of people from the Islands and ship like that, like Patrick you from Cambridge, like ra Mell Robinson. We've got basketball players, but it's all like six one seven culture, So it's right there. Like if you get shot in Cambridge, you go to Boston Hospital. We like I'm born in Boston Hospital. I went to school. Like if you get shot in the cat you got a grety yeah yeah whatever that. Yeah, you know, yeah, like they got it's different, but it's

the same. But um, now, I mean the culture, you know, we were very prideful and like sports and ship like that. I feel like we don't got our like like the music scene never really popped off since like Bobby Brown and like you know like new Addition Zo and No. But it's you know, it's tim and it. But yeah, so like I mean it's it's a good culture of artists coming up and ship like that, but we we haven't had no stalls to really put the ship on

the map in a long time. So like a lot of people like they don't believe in the music, they're just starting to believe now, like for real that it's just possible. Because we got me being Joine Lucas. We got a few people going crazy. So when you were like when you were coming up, um, throughout most of your like school career, you were assigned to special education classes right because of your because you have a d D. Yeah, I got a d h D and a behavior disorder.

They said, Okay, right, but everybody, it's just so like when you were when you were in those special education classes, did that kind of discourage you from trying to be normal or did that make you feel like, Okay, I'm different, so this is something special about me. Now it's more like the first one you said, because it's like, all right, Like my classroom is like this right, it's like the size of this room and it's just six kids and

we bug out all day. And I know that it's a bunch of normal kids down the hallway because it's thirty kids per class. So I'm like, really, cook, there's something wrong with me. And so yeah, I think that from like the jump, I knew, like I I'm different, I'm not normal. So I'm gonna just I'm gonna take a different path in life. I think that's what it taught me. Like I'm gonna take a whole different path because I'm young. I'm in sixth grade, but I'm but I know, like, all right, if I can't sit in

the it's common sense. If I can't sit in the class with thirty people, something's wrong with me. I gotta you know, I gotta take another route. Than them thirty people. So college was off the table. Ship like that, really, school was off the table. I just wanted to play basketball,

and once I got cut from the freshman team. But like, once I didn't make the freshman team and that was clipped, it was all downhire there was at the beginning of like some of the street history because ye as soon as I got into like the special ed classes between like my neighborhood and and and and being in there, because it's like, all right, if we're all in the special class, we're gonna bond every day on the bad ship, Like you're the baddest kid. You're the baddest kid. We're

the baddest kids. We're gonna figure this ship out. So like I feel like that's where it started, because I started like trapping like young just being like around him with with the mix of that, and then my neighborhood, that's where it kind of started snowballing. And once basketball was off the table, ship was clipped and it was just and then but you go back to the you got back to the school sometimes and talk to the kids. Yeah, yeah, so I want to that's that's dope. I went to

South Boston Hi. That's where, like you know, like the movies and ship come from, like The Departed and all that. I went to South Boston, HI, and I asked them in the class, I said, like, how many of y'all feel like you can't be ship in life because you're in this class right now, raise your hand. They're all like this. So I just want to show them, like you could do more. There's a lot of a lot of people in special education. They just don't claim it.

Motherfucker's don't want to claim that. I know I put that ship in Dinings, you know what I mean, that was my thing, Like I put SPED SPED i e P. Individual Education Planning. That's what they give you when they first put you in there. So like, yeah, you know that's big to me. I just want to show them kids, like it's because I thought it was clipped for me

in life as soon as I was in there. So if I could make a little difference by just letting them know, like, all right, it's not clipped for you. It's how it's however you carry it. You can yourself. Yeah, but people don't want to say that they was in special education. I just wear that ship proudly, like you know, trying to get y'all medicine and ship. Yeah, they had

me on them. They had me on adderall early, like, yeah, they had me on adderall to focus or maybe it was riddling or adderall yeah, which actually, you know the weird shites, that's a focused drug, and I could naturally rap, so like I would just focus on rapping all day. Like when some of them drugs, I'll be in school and I just I'm still not focused on the class. I'm just focused on my wraps and ship like that.

Who you raised about your parents and your mother grandmother mom? Yeah, yeah, Like I have my pops until probably like seven eighth grade and ship. Um. I would go to his house on the weekends. But his house was like an artistic house, like you ever heard the single wappa A closer to my Yeah, Like when she when she went to Berkeley College, she lived with me in that house like my pops would have like a lot of artists. But at some point,

like my mom's took me out of that house. She thought it was like, you know, better to kind of be around her because it was a little hectic in that house. Um, and then I was just yet full time with my moms with some of the fix you think, uh, not your dad not being around or you're not being around your dad, or you're like I feel like, um, I feel like I just wasn't kind of like, you know,

not to his detriment because like I funk with my pops. Now, like when when you grow up, you realize, all right, my pops was just a dude. We having kids, you know,

we want them to be superheroes and ship. But I feel like the ship that shocked me in life was like when I would go outside, nobody really told told me that, like the world is cold like that I had to find out, like I was going outside and those punching me in my face for no reason and ship like and learning, oh I gotta find I had to learn all of this ship by myself, and that kind of gave me like a resentment towards him in

the beginning because I wasn't prepared for violence. I wasn't prepared for you know, just kind of like being a man type ship. And I had to teach myself that and then just look at like whatever role models I

had to kind of teach me that too. But I think that I think that was one of the things where it was a little harder being with, you know, like a single mom, because she could even my mother's like anti violence, Like my mother wasn't even like the type to be like, oh, you better go whoop his ass like I actually, if she was on that, I would have probably called a smack by the time I was fifteen, because I learned to fight back myself, you

know what I mean. I was like, no, I'm gonna I just realized, like I could either face this ship and fight, or I can never come around in the basketball courts right next to my house. So see that I'm gonna to stay in on him and going to basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta fight. Yeah, you gotta fight. That's what people think that people see this ship now, like they think it was easy. Like, no, there's nothing the industry could

do to me that my neighborhood didn't. Because I'm telling you, I'm well, it might be somebody who don't know me. You might not even really be from my neighborhood. You might be around dudes was just taking off of me. So I had to fight a lot extra, you know what I mean. I got punched in the face for no reason, like three or four times until I realized, all know, this ship has clipped, like I gotta fight.

And then after you get that one fight in and you see how people treat you like all right, this is the remedy right here, like yeah, this is this is the remedy, Like just fight back, they're gonna respect it. What is it? All the tattoo start ship early because my my brother, my brother, um, my father got he got three kids, but one of my brothers, he was always inked like Travis Barker before Travis Barker, like before

Wayne before Travels. That's what I looked at, like when I'm young, like seven, like my brother was inked the funk up and she was blasted. So I always wanted that, and he knew he knew a tattoo artist, so I got um. I got a queened with the with the tattoo artist probably around like like sixteen. And ship. It's not a getting blasted. You had a situation shot no jumpers, So explain the situation. You got an altercation and you had to pull out and you're done? Did it jam

or fall apart? Because funny thing because people will be like uh like catching a wreck on the internet because I talked about a divine intervention moment right, Like I'm spiritual. I believe in God. I believe. Yeah, I believe God, like really got me through some things. So I spoke which I'll probably never speak on another like spiritual moment again.

You know what I mean? Um, because if you're not, if God doesn't have a big effect on your life, you might not understand the motherfuckers saying he'd been through some hip that he can't explain that only God can explain.

So yeah, like you know, I talked about the one time my ship didn't go off right because to be me and to be where I'm from, yeah, like you know you could read through the lines, but yeah, it was a situation where you feel me basically, like like I had a brand new joint and and and this was right off the hills and my friends going down for a murder free smokes free Buddha they on my arm. I was lost. I was trying to figure it out,

and somebody that gave me a brand new grip. And when I tried to let it go in the club, which there was security cameras everybody, it ain't goolf And then when we went to the bathroom, the ship was disassembled and I didn't know how it would be disassembled because I don't know how to disassemble a joint. Was like the safety like the safety pin was out and all of that and uh. And you know, it's funny because people go crazy on the internet. But I'm with

the same homies that we all walked out with. You know what I'm saying, Like, why should is very verifiable? You could all you could look search the Blanco series. You could go to my neighborhood and ask people, you know what I mean, Like we're timing it. So for for people, it's just funny because they're like, all that ship was that? Why would I talk about the time my ship didn't go off? I'm talking about God. But you can't talk about God to ungodly people. Sometimes they're

not gonna get it, you know what I mean. But you ain't another baby to be the end of it. Hell no. And that's the I said, Oh, that's that's that's the one thing you'll feel, y'all. Y'all got on it, and you know it's wreck because it's real life. It's my real life. So yeah, but I have more divine intervention moments, you know what I mean. But I keep that off the end of it. That's fair enough. What do you say, man, being uh white rapper, what's your

biggest obstacle? Like, what's what's the thing that's just the most frustrating to you? Probably when when people just don't like you because you're a white rapper? Because I just be the thing I have people to be like, he nice, but I don't no white rappers, which how I understand, Like that's honestly, Like, I feel like the majority of people that don't like me is just you know, they can't um, they can't get past it that I'm and I'm not even a traditional white rapper because I'm like actually,

like you know, I grew up in the culture. So most of the white rappers that made it, like you know, if you look at their friend groups, they was you know, suburban kids and ship like that, and they cut straight through to UM to the white mainstream America. So I can't through hip hop. So it's a little different. How do you think that you're at a disadvantage because of

that particular stereotype. No, Like I'm matter if I feel like it's harder to make it, but once you make it, that's when like the white privilege kick in and they give you target ads and you you know what I mean, you get it's different. So it's harder on the come up, but as soon as you crack that door, it's easier

as a white rapper for sure. And I still don't feel like I cracked the door all that way, but like you know, that's that's my perception of it, at least because white privileges, Yeah, like you know, they're gonna put you. They feel like, I don't know, you relate to you, like they feel like you're cool enough to uh when they feel like you're cool enough to press the culture as if you to sit on big facts. Okay,

you're the one that can influence. So yeah, you know with it with a little wink like film one of those yeah we got you, yeah ship like that. See it happened, So it worked both ways. But then like certain things like I think people um say, like like to me, like eminem Raw, like he's one of the one of the greatest rappers ever, Like I don't think he's overrated because because he's white. See what I'm saying

it's just another conversation. But in there's certain rappers I think, hell yeah, like like like an m c K for instance, like he went to all like he he went um to rock music without the blink of an eye, you know what I mean, with the blink of an eye. So that's like your fan base is really just jacking you because you're white. To me, m M, I don't like you know, yeah, it makes sense, say what you feel you got, you got any regret so through life

or through your rap career with him? Now, I really don't. I really don't honestly, Like I was talking to my men about it the other day, like I feel like everything is meant to be, should happen when it happens, Everything is meant to be. Yeah, I can't. I can't. I can't say I regret nothing. I mean like I do.

But there's and ship like I've been there, Like I wish I told like certain homies back in the day to not do certain ship that they did that you know, like my brothers are doing life and ship like that like natural life like so, but at the time them, we're young. I don't know, so I get like those regrets. But it's it's ship that I would have never known anyway. They said, we're not get big. We talked about that sometime.

I'm going a big fast Friday, Like what what? What do you think the fine line is in the streets of minding your business because you're kind of it's kind of like mandy your business, but on the other end, kind of not minding your business too. Help your homies from crashing out of ship. Yeah, it's hard because I look at I look at wrapped like I look at wrapped like, um, it's like a race to save people. That's how I look at it, Like it's like a It's like a race to save my youngest I've saved

people that's around me. But I preached sometimes it's hard to preach like what I do. Like even when my youngers in my neighborhood, I'll take you out, I'll put you around some real lit ship and then I'll have that conversation with you, like you wanna be around this so you want to, you know, because I'm not the greatest role model, I can't just tell you every day like all right, get out the streets because woo woo woo, Like you know, all I could do is show you

that there's like another life. But yeah, it's it's it's a fine line because you could tell somebody something, but they're gonna do what they want to do. And a lot of motherfucker's they frontal lobe isn't even developed. It's a part of your brain that develops after twenty four or something like that. So it's hard to talk to somebody your whole brain ain't even developed and crashing out because I was there, I was crashing, crashing. Do you feel like you're go ahead to um your whole career?

You got to prove yourself because you went to the coach, maybe not to the culture, just like um, yeah to the nonbelievers. Like I feel like I've probably proven myself to the maybe like not like down South yet as much, you know what I mean, but like, like you know,

I got a lot of stamps and this ship. You know, I'm just saying, like even even if you go around like the goats, like the Jay's and all of them, do you feel like it's a sense of I gotta show them that I'm I'm this like musically, yeah, That's what I'm saying, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's gonna always Yeah, definitely, you gotta always like always deliver. And the Crazy Ship row was I wrapped more than any other rapper. Like if you look at my freestyles

and you're go online, I wrapped. I'm wrapping more than any other rapper in the world for the last three years literally statistically realistically, I'm going to like this year, I already did on I ain't gonna say the platforms on here, but like I've wrapped for like fifteen minutes, which is like somebody's album. If you could sit down and wrap four four minutes straight at somebody's album, you know what I mean. And I'm doing that thirty minutes

a year consistently, Like I'm wrapping. The guys who are nice, who do do high level wrap, they're rapping like once once or twice thing might do you know, like the Leakers or something here and there a couple of minutes you got one of the most more than all of them from Elite Coach Signs. Though from that's the next question, how did that even come about? And how how is it man that came on? That came I moved to

New York. I moved to New York when I was at like when I was at the height of my ship in Boston, I had just did summer jam with Nicki Minaj. I just knew, like all it was like a glass ceiling. It was like you did this, but that's it, Like it's still no national recognition. So I moved to New York. I was taking a little the Chinese bus back and forth, fifteen dollars a day until I realized on, like, I gotta get a spot out here.

I got a little spot in the Bronx. In that same week, I met Kiss through My Man Set Free. My Man Set Free. Um, it's like an older guy who really helped me out on my career, and um, I paid him for a feature, but he was working with the song already. And then after that, I just kept following up with him, like if he would be in the club, if he were being like starlets or something ship for a walk through. I just figure out how to finesse my way get in there and make

sure he's seen me. If he'd be at the regular club a show, I figure out how to, you know, just get face time with him until his man ice picked J started really like listening to my ship. Yeah, ice Peak. J Ice picked Jay listened to my ship and really started on like diving into it and realizing like, oh now he could sing, he could wrap, he can all of that, and uh he told kids, you know you should you should um you should co sign him man and put him on your label and ship like that.

So yeah, that's how that happened. Who do you feel like believe in you the most? Like from the begining of everything, beside just said blood Like in life, I say, like, my man Creeze, shout out the Creeze. I never said that in a in an interview. He like, he's my man. But he was like an m M A fighter too, not a real m M A fighter, but he could fucking mm A fight up. So like he really, I'm telling you, m M A fight up. We fought the

Boston Marathon bomb or two. I never talked. I'll tell you all about that later, right, But my man Creeze stood with me like since I was like twelve thirteen. He telling he's like that boxing coach telling me you to go bro. You don't understand you to go bro. So we'd have shows and then just be me and him sometimes, but he'd be behind me, you know what I mean, and anybody like if a rapper dissed me, he go beat him up if you talk bad about me, and go beat you up constantly. So he was the muscle.

He was my coach, you know what I mean, My my my fighting coach. He was all of that, and I needed that because you know, like I wouldn't fight, but I can't fight like him. So you know, Creek Creese was really there for me, like step by step

for re suck and shout on my dog. Would you get into like a rap beef for somebody just at this point trying to get at you and don't know, like because it's like it's a pain, you know that ship like Federal, I don't know, it's it's getting a little nasty too, like like yeah, because I don't want just like wrap be It depends how, you know, if it's But I wouldn't say yeah, like if somebody dissed me who was like um above me and stature and it could be just some like you know, ship on

wax or whatever, and I could just flame them like that and up my career. I would do that, But I'm not rapping down to nobody because anyone just want to hurt you, you know what I mean? Because what am I doing? Like, yeah, I'm not it's not an even trade, but I'd wrap up at somebody for sure. What about on some social media ship, I'm no, hell no, none of it. I can't even say sucking my dick on Instagram no more. That's to take my page and

that should be crushing me inside. You know, you just want to fire all that suck my thick bowls off block. I used to hit him with the suck my dick boso block. I can't even do that no more? So what is the platform for us to be free? Facts? But it was the crazy on Twitter? Oh yeah, that's why I'll be telling a little crazy on Twitter, I guess. Yeah, you gotta go on Twitter to grand say come to my come on my Twitter. G Yeah, you like Instagram,

don't play fair? Yeah, I mean ship like I still got my page, so yeah, I'm seeing like, yeah, you can't really talk crazy like that. You can't even like say certain ships and another nigga's comments and they'll still try to like flag you man, that ship is wicked to Trump with Joe Biden neither neither. Yeah, I was um Barack Obama or oh maybe Bernie Sanders. I like the Bernie Sanders. I like Bernie. I think Bernie could have did it. Bernie. I like Bernie. But you Joe

Biden Donald Trump? Oh man, he said, neither. Can I skate with that one? You'll vote, you vote for sure. So what I'm saying, don't man, that's the lesser two, Eve, don't take the safe No, it ain't safe. I ain't gonna lie. Like I really hated Trump when he was in there, and then I thought, like, I don't know it was and then I started seeing like Joe Bhaden, it's kind of like similar like to him, like you know,

so yeah, I was. I've been off of politics, like I've just been off of it completely, like I don't got no faith in it, like this clip, I don't pay attention to it. I was even paying attention to the Russian Ukraine War until they started telling me all the raceship and I said, I'm not tuning into this no more neither. So who's your celebrity crush coming up? Scissor? Well, that's reason yeah, yeah coming up maybe man? Right now?

Still right now? Yeah, Yeah, I'm never in like two thousand thirteen or something like that up you know, like I was laying on a beach chair. I was in south By, Southwest, and then it was like some sort of I don't know, smoker's club house party type vibe. I had a good beach chair and she walked by and I just said with something. She was smiling off right, and I felt like, you know, if I could have pursued it, maybe, but you from yeah, yeah, now it's just like a little bit but not like a freeze.

Like I was like, yeah, I love your music and ship like that. But she kept walking but like I probably had a little space to like, you know, like she talking and ship. I was like, no, like you gotta manifest that happen again now for sure coming up though um probably maya, maya maya, but I say maya TLC, maya TLS all three tells all three like different reasons. I like chilly though, I like left, I like the t balls. Women women, Well that's a year. That's what

I grew up with, for sure. What made you? What I'm saying, like why you just go get your white one? But it wasn't like around like that. So like the time by the time I was by the time, I was like me and like, see, this is gonna be controversial because like I like old women though, like especially now. But yeah, growing up, growing up, I was kind of like anti like white girl. I wasn't jacking them because first of all, like if I met him, they was like kind of like the college white girls and it

was kind of goofy to me. Or they were super like street bitches from like like Childstown Projects and Ship. It's like super ratchet like so yeah, but my preference growing up was black women definitely. Now it's it's all women. Um, just if you didn't like the goofies and you didn't like the superraption, I just like, um, I just like

just swag the beauty ship like that. And then it's like also like you know, um, black girls helped me like a lot, like in my neighborhood even coming up, because they really be like leave him alone, that's my friend from Yeah, not that the dudes like listen to Ship. I was friends. I was friends. Yeah, yeah, you know. I was friends with like a lot of a lot of black girls like those some of my homies, and they would vouch for me, like in the neighborhood, like

you know, even shout out Lady Repo. She was one of the ross rappers and she used to tell me you have to leave him alone forever. So yeah, where you got the baddest women in your opinion? See it the pen like, because I really feel like they're all over but and you're gonna get me in trouble. But I say it depends. I don't know. That's tough. M No,

no kids, okays, Yeah, yeah, that's a tough question. But like Atlanta, at Atlanta got the best stop clubs for sure by far you've been, you've been through and that you've been through all on most of yeah, yeah, most of them. Yeah, I've been coming out here for a little while. Okay, if you moved up, you moved from New York. When if you move from New York to

nothing City, way would it be? I want a big crib in the South, like I never had a house my whole life still to this day, you know what I mean, Like I want I want a house with a backyard. That's what I want. I want a house with a backyard. So I want to go to the South for real with the black girl. You ain't have mad, have mad legal gripshun around, get the big truck. I have stupid army in South here yeah like that's yeah,

yeah I could. I could move to um I've never been to Houston enough and here is let but I can move to Georgia. Ye speaking of like dunes? Man, what's you think the solution is all this crazy? Just have to shoot the ship like if you were if you, if you had your say, so how we could in politics?

So like yeah, like I don't know where to lead me on a political ship, but I feel like I right, First of all, you said you should make it super hard to get um like like like any type of like chop, like it should be easy to get a hand gunning hard to get a solved, right first, right, I think that. So I know that most people, probably like in the South, in different places, like they believe you should have all of that ship. Right, I think you should probably make it hard to get the ship

to commote people down super quick. And but everybody should have the right to have a pole. And I think they should put UM security in the schools, but like trained shooters that don't freeze up like you know, really, because the most UM the most non violent people are most violent, if that makes sense, Like you know, like a kungtuble motherfucker, Like he's not really gonna start a fight with you. He and I can do. Yeah, and the train shooters not itching the bust bust their gun,

see what I'm saying. So I would probably get put one of them because we got the budget, and that's not the school budget, that's in the police budget. We'll put one of them motherfucker's at each school. And because I'm saying, if that little kid who ran in there and killed all them kids, if he knew, oh now, he's gonna blow me down as soon as I go in there. Should it be different you having me tracking the cameras all on his phone, got the pole on him. Yeah,

and blow them school shooters down. That's what I think. I don't know where that ends me, like politically or not the Republican or whatever, but yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's what's some of mill these goals man like personal you know what I mean? We know obviously a career goes to what water? Yeah, I wanna um, I just want to save people with wrap like and do it like in an accelerated process, like I wanna that's that's

how I look at it. I feel like I've already saved like three to four to five people just straight out the streets. Like I know for a fact that there wasn't running around with me, they'd be and that ship. And I want to do that for a lot of people. I want to put artists on. I want to put at least five six artists on where they could have you know, a whole uh group of people to eat

off of them ship like that. I think, so like just those are my attainable goals, Like I just want to get as big as I could get in the music game and funking around and just put artists on after that. Um yeah, that's my that's my life goals in the next year for real. So, um, how you keep from letting like getting bullet as a kid keep you from being built up like towards the world? Um? Now,

that ship just made me tough, Like I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate it more like I don't know, like it never made me better cause like I had a lot of people that like, like I learned what a win and the loss was early. Yeah, a lot of people never even learn what a win and the losses you're really just going through life. You're not taking I'm taking extreme wins and extreme losses, so I appreciate it for real, like you already know how to feel, to be, to

feel yeah, yeah, hell yeah. And then you also learned like, all right, this ship didn't kill me. Motherfuckinger stopped me out. I'm doing then I know how to do this. Mother stopped me out. My face is intact, get up, shake my ship off, go to the house, and I'm like, I'm alive. And then the next day and i'm And the next day you come out and and it's good, and then and then and then you feel the feeling of winning the fight. You're like, goddamn Georgia foolman out.

So it's like, you know, um, yeah, that's why I'm not better, bro, because it's like I had to learn to take wins and losses because even through my rap career, I took while rejection. But it just feels like getting stomped out in sixth grade, you know, like that's all they feels like, just emotionally. So yeah, that's that's just a blessing man for real. What's that golden moment for you. Millie's in the studio with the golden moment, like it makes it all worth it, just the person I always

wanted to sit down and collaborate with man Um. I was in the studio one day, like so they used to have the D Block studios and young because it's like it's just like you would think you've ever been there. It's just like you would think a D Block studio would be. It's in like a factory building, you know, like Rugged Ship ninety motherfucker's and then Timberland ship like that. And I came in there one day and Kiss was right into something and the ship was so hard and

I'm like, yo, bro, can I write to that. It took me just courage just to ask him that it's like right, and I laid my verse and that ship made it on his album that was Government Cheese. But like that Um, that verse like me writing side by side with Kiss and getting on his album that was That was it for me. Yeah, Like, can't nobody funck with me? Like I didn't sat down with Kiss, and I meant no artists could funk with me in the world. That's how I feel like because I sat down with Kiss.

I panned the sixteen, he loved it and put it on his album, and he really the best. Like there's other like great rappers, but nobody his age, or or or the ten years under, ten years under, nobody, and none of these brackets can funk with him right now A sixteen whoever, No, he showed it. I'm talking about he's sharp, like we just came from New Orleans. Like he's sharp, Like I'm watching, I'm like, I don't know how you do that because I'm way younger and I'm

and I forget some lines. I might get drunk in my shows. I I would I cut this song. I forgot that ship to play the next one, not kiss. You're on bar for bar for bar for bar. You don't slipping on stumble on the word. He's different, well for sure. Yeah, there were times when I'm show the word where you were thinking about giving up because it was just funked up, Like how happy are you now that you did? Not? Man, it's everything. I cried on

the plane. I ain't gonna lie like. I had a crazy day in l A. Probably like three weeks ago, maybe four weeks ago, I had met um Man. It was just a crazy day. Somebody was on my phone. I can't even say right now, but somebody was on my phone. And then I went and I sat down with Snoop, and Snoop just like lectured me for like, you know, like an hour and traded game with me. Men. I ran into my guy Massy. I threw the sped chain on him because he threw you know, he showed

me so much love. And people was calling my phone about incredible ship. And I actually just got kicked off a plane. I got kicked off a plane, but I wasn't even tripping out. They let me on the next plane and I just sat there. Man, I shed a terror joy. I was like, yo, I can't I was like, I was just like, yo, I can't believe me up now.

I don't know, like because I just believed, and I don't know where the belief was coming from, because I was just getting so much rejection, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, that should suck me up. Like I just I just was like, I can't believe it. I shed a tear for real, Like, so what nohing knowing what you know? Now?

What would you tell the younger you? Like when you was thinking about when you was taking those sixth grade I say keep going and and I say keep going, and like you know, I thought I thought my cut off age was thirty and that's when I turned it up. What do you mean my cut off age? I thought that was it for a rapper, Like that was so just for me to like go crazy. See like after my cutoff age, in my mind, I would have told myself, now, I don't don't trip like you got it. So how

your mom received the rep crew man? She loved it, but she knows this it's like a dangerous job too, you know what I mean. So she's very proud that them that them that I'm out the streets. But she also, like you know, um, she loved it though, like her friends and ship could be hearing about me, like all that kids here about me, like she like a like a celebrity mom sometimes you know, especially where we're from. Um, but yeah, she knows it's it's a grind like my

mother's like my therapist and ship. So she's gonna here all the way. I try not even to put the bad ship on her now though, like you know, I try to just keep it like but but I'm used to having her as like my therapist, so she love it. Do you think the press is more intense of trying to get there trying to stay there? That's good, good ask questions? Um shit, probably trying to It's like both

because it's like frink like. But yeah, the pressure is up now because because if my ship fall off, like now, I'm actually feeding people before like if I lose, nobody else really fact I lost. Now if I lose ten, fifteen, twenty people lose, you know. So yeah, and I just want to do it for my states. So yeah, yeah, the pressures stay on. Ye what you think the pressure?

I feel that pressure every day. Absolutely. I really don't know what we're doing we're doing, but I mean the pressure of, like you said, doing what you have to do because you know that now you're in the position where more people are depending on you is definitely like a ton of pressure because you know, like one slip, all this ship can be gone, and then that means that all of all these people that's depending on the

ship it's gonna be gone too. I just feel like in my in my situation, it just a different plate than on fixting because I've been had to fixt place since I was fourteen, same pressure, take care of you know what I'm saying. So it's the same ship that I was always like, you know, I was always a single child. I didn't have no kids purposely, So now it's just falling on So it's different like if you yeah, if you had it my feet up now, like you

know what I'm saying. It's like we're just coaching before the fold this month. So but that's yeah, that's what life supposed to be like for sure. But now I I like as an artist, now if I was a rapper, I would feed that different that different. Were there talking ship kicking, ship winning, no competition, so it is what it is, even the competition that we do. Hell, they were calling in trade game with each other, I'm saying,

So it ain't really competition. But this rap ship, you got them drop a hot song and then you drop album, and you drop another album and then they'd be like, oh, he launched it. I swear to god, I was thinking about my next album, Like we number one on iTunes right now. After last album we tried at Billboard, so I was already like, all right, I gotta try to higher on Billboard or if it's over for me. Yeah. And then this one, I'm like, damn, Like I really

don't pull out the stops for this. I got five year old foreign I have five year old foreign bringings. Told us to the projects in my in my city, like I'm doing incredible ship, and I'm like, Yo, how do I talk that? I don't. I don't want to, That's what I'm saying, Like it's like, where's the you feel me? I just meant money back outside of here, So like that's like a feature I gotta do some incredible ship right now, right now? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Nah,

for sure we're not getting big, are you? Probably one of the most outside Repperts. Is that just part of how you outside? But you know that we see I'm really I'm talking about like really like the South Side. I'll be in the fucking the trend cheetos. I had a couple off days in New York right in my schedule, and and I had two feature videos I had to do boom, so I one of them already knowing my man's like he's from East New York. Like I'm like,

all right, So he sent me the address. We're in Cyprus. Projects in East New York, which is like the worst ship in the world, you know what I mean. Boom and he's on my off days, A hundred motherfucker's out there. The next day, I'm like, all right, where's the video for the feature Queen's Bridge projects Boom out, you know what I mean. It's just like, Yo, the ship is concert and then like yeah, but that's one of the things I pride myself for. Man, I'm not scared of nothing,

but god, you know what I mean. So I've always been like that, bro I've been in I've been running around and landing. I shot a video on on On Boulevard. That's a spot, right, was a project yeah before Yeah Boulevard. I came down here because I had UM. I was on a feature with UM. This is like ten years ago. I came down and I was on a song with Blue Da Vinci and because O Fly and we shot it in like the projects in the Lantashers. So it's

like it always been like that. My man Dylan here, he didn't have me out in the trenches since I was a little kid in Boston. Like you know, documented you think that's somewhat of the away with what I was saying earlier, like proving yourself like that you'll pull up. There's like, oh yeah, I'm gonna pull up. You know what I'm saying. It's like maybe it's a pull up, but it's kind of just like I just don't feel that,

like you not for nothing. I went to Haiti because I grew up with all those motherfucker's told me, right now, do you not go to Haiti? Don't go to Haiti. That's what they told me. They're getting kidnapped left for right. This is what Haitians are telling me. You feeling, Oh no, I'm on the plane and it got crunchy out there, But I just feel love for re because it's different. It's different than America. Like that word, by the way,

just done, that's my word. I crunchy out there because it was like, um, we had SUV's, we got twelve SUVs, and we got sticks, big fucking sticks. It doesn't matter, It don't matter because they're gonna look at you and be like, shoot you point that ship right, shoot you know what I mean? Like that's what type of time they want with the dudes out there. Like it's just it's a different it's a different level but shout out head it was beautiful though, Like it was beautiful. But yeah,

I'm going anywhere, bro. I told motherfucker's you could book me in Ukraine right now. I'm dead as can book me and Ukraine for a hund of stacks right now. I need that six figures. I'll go out there, you know what I mean, Like, I'll take your word and be straight. I got God with me, Like I go anywhere, I'll go anywhere in the world. It's proven, documented, factual.

M Yeah, scream the outside. I like that. A lot of fun out of this deli onto you, man, because they don't be understanding, like no, like a lot of these rappers, they be in the house man, Like I don't know, they never experienced divine intervention. You're going back to the divine intervention. No, nobody want to shoot, no white but you privilege because the motherucker definitely empty this

hole on me in front of my mother's house. Yeah yeah, I thought about a word, but then I remembered, like the flashes and the banks, you know what I mean that she changed after you see that muzzle flash. Yeah, time, and then you always add that bullshit that question question please time, Like like domond Now, I like when I had time, No bullshit, I don't got time no more. But like when I had time, I liked the strip club, and I like going there early? Too early? What because

you can now listen? Listen, listen, listen. I don't understand why people go to strip club late, right, you might as well go there when all the girls check in the work, like because other than that, like it's just competent. Why you want more to wait until all the dudes is there? If all the girls get here at eleven o'clock, how somebody from Atlanta giving us Atlanta, but I don't know. I don't know if Atlanta but New York. I'm install it at twelve, all the strips is there, all the

bottle girls is there at eleven thirty. People don't get there until two o'clock in the morning. So my thousand dollars is gonna look like five thousand dollars, whereas my thousand dollars at two o'clock, it's gonna look like two hundred dollars. And they don't care about that measly two hundred dollars. So it's like I'm stretching my money. That's what I've always yeah, stretching a look at all of that. God, I'm building relationships. But that's that's my that's my all time.

That's what I do all the time. What you what some of your favorite liquor with some of your favorite food, that type of ship culture and lifestyle type. I like, like right now, like I had a um, I had like a like a kind of like a hole in my stomach. So for for like a while, like in the lining of my stomach from like eating like spicy food and popping pills or whatever the funk. It was ad villain ship like that. But I started eating like, um,

grilled chicken after that, like grilled chicken. So now I really be on like a lot of like on Colombian food, like Mexican food now because they just got rice beans grilled chickens. Like I try to keep it simple, but I love I love I love old food though I love Haitian food, I love jamaking food. If I want to go to sleep, um yeah, like I like a

like a good put me to sleep plate. Look, I'm on that Reperssado, Repersado Blanco, my whole album about Repersato, talk about that album, man um just like a mixture of like high level rap, pain, emotion based music, touching on a lot of subjects depression, you know what I mean, anger, sadness, joy, heart beats. We got a lot of features. We got Marzi, we got on five Yo Farr and Jada Kiss Styles, p Oh, I got on there, more Peasy from Detroit, Cousin STIs from Boston. We we got we got a

plethora artists that ship, Um it's fired. Did that? Did that make a competitive for you? Having all those features like making sure your verse was in But I feel like I'm a good A and R though, So like when I approached somebody, like when I go like get my money back, yo versus gonna be the best I'm gonna find it. I know what I like out of certain artist, Like I was telling him, like I like your pain ship. I like like get shipped with Kodak

and ship like that. So that's what I try to give an artist something that I feel is right in pocket for him, like I gave five or something I knew he would go crazy on. Everyone goes crazy on their feature versus with me, Like if you look at my herbo verse, you look at my my Benny very kiss anybody. Everybody wraps up to the highest level for sure. And I got a reputation as a lyricist, so I

think that helps you. What's some of the most key or clutch information you would give somebody on the come up or a young personal game man, I would say, like, get your face clean with people, you know what I mean, Like pull up, get face value with people as much as you can. You gotta be ready to die for it. You gotta be ready to like you gotta be ready to um, to sacrifice comfort. You gotta be ready to to jump at every opportunity because like some motherfucker's that

feel like they're bigger than an opportunity. Like if I know that there's a fifteen percent when I was coming up, if I knew that there's a fifteen percent chance like I could meet you somewhere, I'm gonna take that fifteen percent chance that that other chance is not gonna register in my head. I'm gonna say, all right, this is this is worth it. And I did that every time. It's like THEE for two years straight. Yeah yeah, yeah, but I'm but I'm like that, bro, Like if I

hadn't made it right now. If I was coming up in Atlanta, you would have seen me ninety times. I would have been outside even even with even with this conversation you want to do it, but your team was persistent, like they made sure it's just them, like I know, and like yo, I probably myself on being a realist, like seeing things how they are and not how you want them to be. I know, I'm not the biggest

artist in Atlanta. I know, y'all sitting down with the litt motherfucker's from the South, and y'all really it like y'all the voice of this whole ship. So yeah, I gotta press for that, you know what I mean, Like I rerouted flights and all that because I'm coming here, Like I never yeah, I I never, like I'm going to pass up an opportunity. But being a realist tool to all the artists, like just to touch on that seeing things how they are, not how you want them

to be. That should have put you out of like it hurts to be painful because you have to look at yourself in the mirror and go, damn, I'm not the biggest artist in the world, like I feel like I am. You know what I means it hurts. But once you take that initial hurt, you're able to say,

all right, well this is where I'm starting from. So I lead you starting from a place of reality and not delusion, where so much you got nine percent of motherfucker's walking out here delusional because they're scared to get hurt about where they run in life. So I'm the hottest in my stay, not what you wanted to be. That's really thinks how they are, not how you want

them to be. And I don't told people that. I've had people in my camp try to gas me and say you're you're hotter than so and so, and I go, no, I'm not. Statistically and realistically, we can feel like that, but that's something to prove. Yes, and so so many motherfucker's let somebody tell them you're you're hotter than so and so, and they dad as walk out the door and feel like I'm hotter than you're not. You're gonna be great. Yeah, if you think like that, you're gonna

be great. Yeah, be a realist, you know what I mean. And it's like, yeah, people just say I run my city, Oh, I run my seat. That's like a casual thing. You meet somebody from out of town. We can meet somebody right now from Arkansas wherever. They're just gonna casually. Now, I run my city, that's me. I could tell you. I ain't even gonna tell you I'll run my city, but I could tell you if y'all come down there,

I could put five six SUVs on you. You could go anywhere you want, you know what I'm saying comfortably, Like when they're gonna roll out the red carpet every single place. Oh yeah, I ain't even gonna say I run my ship, but I'm up. But yeah, yeah, on god, what would it take for you to sound a white wrapper right now? The other now, he had to beat question ever your mind? You got me with that one, yo.

That's like a that's like a weird question right there, Like, um, you know, he has to be just like me for real. I had to like go verify you for real. Yeah, you have to be just like me. You have to have that up about nice. And that's like, he's somebody I know who could just go right now and I could get a bag and invested into my novel artists, you know what I mean. But yeah, that's I don't know like there's only one other like white kid I know who's just like me. That's my brother, asked Kate.

Like he grew up in my same neighborhood. He was the first um, first first dude in UH and conquered prison with a black cellman, white and black cellmate. Like the guards don't let you do that. They had to say, no, this is what it is, like we rocked. So he respected by the by the black people, the white people, all that, you know what I mean. So it's like different, like I don't really be meeting people that's just like me. But I guess if you're nice, I'll put you on that.

You sucked me up with that question because it's like the reason why it QUI because it's like you had the heir what you had for kiss to sign you. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, so what is it how y'all feel about like white wrappers and the climbate that I don't know listen and but we we fun like I fought with your energy, but we but we all we all had this conversation like without to be honest,

I've never listened to a full Imminem album. I don't know why it's not I could play you ship though that would change your mind on ship. I feel like I got I gotta playlist at them that I can play to anybody and change. But it's not but as far as a full project because just like for me, for instance, because I didn't really weigh in when they talked about this or whatever. But I'm an Eminem fan,

but I'm an Eminem fan to certain songs at certain times. Singles. Yeah, like I can't really like I say, call out a whole project that I've listened to from start to finish or you know what I'm saying, No ship like that, but his word play and his imagination and we give everything is official. But I think the move is what

made me a fan for sure. That's not me, that could I mean I feel like that could happen with different artists, Like I was a like like I'm a die hard like Nipsey fan, right, like for real, like I got tweets like in two thousand thirteen, Nipsey Hustle my favorite rapper of all time, like documented, right, I told him this, that's crazy. I gotta line. I said, I met Nipsey and Atlanta told him he the greatest.

I call that Dick Roding, I call you insecure. You gotta live through more mostly also women to you know what I mean. Like, but I met Nipsey and I told him that, and I was always on that, but I saw like once he passed, like a lot of people all of a sudden was big fans of his, but a lot of them were saying, well, I like the interviews and ship. So I feel like that's the thing with an artist. How you say you funk with

m Off. I think that's all around artistry, you know what I mean, used to your personality, to your songs and ship like that, because I feel like if you're if you're an artist, your main goal should be to get people to become in tune with you as a person. Because if they do that, you can fucking go sell chicken fries at Burger King. They're gonna step with you and follow you and sell out the chicken fries because they fun with you as a person even though they

were introduced to you through your music. You got a brand. So if you got a brand, and it's kind of like you got real fans, you know, yeah, yeah, protect the brand absolutely, man, We're with you yeah, we need, we need, we need to go up, go up your way and do a live. We're trying to do lives with different cities. Of course, we gotta do that. You know. That's all set up. Like I said, right car, it rolled out even when y'all come to New York. You

know what I mean. It's my second city. So sure what y'all tapped in with the right ones out there. That's what this is. Man bike shouts out. The meal is pulling up, blessing us some big Facts, sipping on the Delhi again. I was just saying, oh yeah, yeah, you gotta see things how they are, not how you

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