BIG FACTS feat. KINKY B

like a lot of money to party. Like what you say, like one night in the town in Atlanta on some turn up if you come from out of town or if you're from here, like what does that cost? You know, you gotta go get fresh. You gotta pull up in something that means you gotta park it. Then you gotta pay for you And I mean the average for this this past All Star weekend. Let's just say the average, because the average is deep too. Let's just say the average.

How much you got to spend at the mall if you go in the Sacks and Nemons or something like that end get your kind of fresh. You know you might get you know, niggas might already got some gene buy a shirt and some shoes. You know what I'm saying. Two thousands, But on a decent end, if you gotta go from head to tall, you can get decent for like a nick about a nick that's for one, that's five thousand, five thousand, yes, five thousand nick, Big facts

and dictionary. Because some people be like what we're talking about? All right, so five thousand for your outfit. Okay, boll you know you gotta a calible. A person though we're talking about, ain't got no five thousands to spend though, But they see they created, huh, they created. You know, if a nigger gotta get fresh, he's gonna figure it out. Like I said, like we just had the little skinny niggers can go to n Or like baby Gap Baby and get fled for like less than a stack. But

we talk about the the Drip committee. The niggas that go get the drip. They gotta have the new Gucci, all that ship, you say, the big shoes, all this. So that's about a dick, right, you go to clog, you whip up how much you gotta play the part. If it's if it's like a regular night, a regular popping night, it can be anywhere from a hundred to two hundred. But on light just say, like for All Star weekend, like that was charging five six hundred apart

five the park. Okay, that's some people read you know what I mean? Some people? All right, then now you got to get in the club by section for you and all your folks. Bottles, the gratuity. Who the funk ordered gratuity? Like the bottle? That should be crazy? How much of the sections average nighter popping? We're trying to run up a grand tone for All Star the average section was anywhere from like six thousand seventy They went all the way up to thirty thousand dirty bands thirty Yeah,

who was it? If you want to be right next to the artist, the rapper, if you want to be right next to them, that's the prime real estate. The closer you get to these rap niggas, the more you gotta pay. I understand that, but third do yeah, a lot of them? What call with the section? Some bottles, whole bunch of liquor and like fifteen people the most important thing and shoutouts was in the building. Who's shot them out there? Just shut it out, nigga, don't get

shout out, then shot me. I don't shutting the club? What are you in real life? I'm saying, shout out many, that's what called with the third life much third go to your bod tail, That's what I'm saying. Like, if you get a third, thou not decision. It's either it's either eighteen or twenty twenty. Look, but that ain't really bad though. With a crew, think me, you coming with

your crew, y'all spend thirty'll getting twenty thousand. Look, they're gonna let whoever you got, you spent third, you're gonna bad brain twenty third or four? No, no, no, you know, additional part, every additional person after that fifteen is to minimum stiff. But you got something, you got a budget, something got gonna be all all included, right, not all the time you spend thirt the all coming, not all the time. Jay said, you still got to pay for

the shout out. Get your record play baby. Yeah, that ship don't come with nothing but the bottles thought it down. The two questions cap Summer. The two questions. On the two questions, we say, is hey, what's the most y'all ever spend on some club? Ship? Robber was trying to stand pund. I know the little baby was expencive, and Gucci was in town, and who else was in town? Bobby's murder everybody, Like, if you want to get next to them and you put a little bit more that

you get a very though. Hey, now you're talking since my brother, you might jo the nigga and get some pictures. But now you can't say that though, because nigga still probably feel like, Okay, we shut that ship down, you know what I'm saying. We write about blocks, then we had a four to two. Nigga's got different ways of putting on, Like I probably came intown with a budget to funk up. Yeah for show, Jewelry dripped the club

all that. If a nigga spent a third mom on the session, he able to spend third of Do Mamama six, Let's pray, let's pray to down, let's pay. I ain't going for that, nigga. Why we're not going to just going to get me a five tenth tholland all the sension. I ain't able you spent third. That's a little boy by the wrong bro. Yeah, it's a lot more when

it's for everybody day they last. Look, they don't have a good week or a good money saying like that, we got them doing it the whole weekend the same way, Bro, they'd be they'll be thinking it's gonna keep coming. That's how people fall off, bro, telling you then keep if you're able to got back home, to get back hopefully everybody in here, even if even if you got it, you ain't never had a majest city night. What you mean everything, That's what I'm saying. I hate doing my money,

but I did because I know what I'm saying. He's my friends we put on. I shop my money with regret, I don't give. I hate spending my ship. But what I'm saying is what you're saying. A nigga who bought a third thousand, no lisasion the party, he can do it again. He ain't mad. You ain't mad. Hopefully you know spending thirty thousand turned up already to you can't count hold everything in his pocket. We gotta you gotta think about you gotta think about the wigglers. A wiggler

will listen to what I'm saying. A wiggler will spend his last to achieve that look and to create that facade, not third. Okay, that's a lot of money. But put together that thirty for the come up. That's what I said, So that ain't really nothing, though, Ten niggers on third thou whether you know that? Ain't you know? Good and well? Nigga spent everything in this pocket on jury. Nigga's been three. We got all these bits and then the bottle coming

through this ship wasn't nothing there being real? Just keep it real. Ten niggas been thirty keeping one. Because I go in, I'll be one of them niggas again, three thousands on that six at three thousand one ship. See they looking at it from a particular perspective. I know what you're talking about. Niggle will spend his last on some ship like, ain't no nigga around us on his last? Any nigga do thinking about getting a thirty thollars out of section? Ain't nobody around them? Should you be? Keep

me thinking about that thirty thandar section. If you only got a hunt it to your name, Okay, that's what you gotta hunt to your name, you can go in three thousand on the thirty dollars. Nigga's should you be? Should you be? Thinking about that thirty thousand dollars section. If you flew here on a one way buddy pass, Oh, ain't they mate the niggles in that thirty ard they're putting up means to get home. I don't care what y'all come down to. My two different things, Man's two

different things. I say saying, teebe two or three dollars might be bud, don't got through spend the last three dollars? Yeah, let say that. Yeah man, listen spak yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know you're twin your last three thousand. You spend your last thirty No, bro, yes you will. He ain't gonna get to a point that you have, So I got you might go home. You might spend the whole thing. It was doing it last year. Who the SBA boys? That was so sweet, But I'm nigging had Tony was

too sweet. That's what I was saying. If I nigger hit a good lick, he would go spend at all. He don't even know how to really, he didn't even think about the mat Yeah, I get think about today. Yeah. It's just like yeah yeah, but still though, third down, I said, I'll need with out the pieces now that she don't needn't even turned up, he even't turned up, tending man that she ain't ship. Imagine what if all the crew home, give me three, give me three, give

me three. But this ship. We need to think about that money. What we're doing the road, Jake, I gotta get a shot on that. Don't start looking like, let's like that right road now you're right, you are the way right like we're been and called and called my niggah bro, they got station thirty right now next to the nigga. Y'all want to go put on? Yeah, yeah, I got five on, I got three were in him yeah,

daily yeah, daily shots and all night. Man. You feel I'm saying it because we've been there, we've done that a hypocrite now but nigga doing that ship and he knows him will be doing it, which I have did that too. You know what I'm saying like I'm dipping the building. Mother be hip or creditle with y'all, man, because at the end of the day, you can't buy them moments back. Okay, So what do you what do you get? What do you get from that? And you said the moment if I got got the shout me out. Now,

I pay five dollars. You in the club, Oh no, we pay we bet third dollars and six were in him. We were baby them right, were in him'ting thud on this session, the whole everybody in him for the know we're in here. I better hit my record. Yeah, they've been to play this ship like we get him knowledge that ship. You know what I'm saying. What I'm saying is if you if you're you okay, Yeah, to shout

out the records. So you know what I'm saying. Every town, every whatever, whatever, that ship, other other anybody other than you, that ship don't come that way. That don't DJs ain't going for that ship. These holes ain't going for that ship. Ain't nobody going for if you get if you spent that it right, you got another stack or to get a DJ and the whole stack. Attorney sat up that ain't found a nig on that mike, but then a third dollar knowledge spend on stage. He know what to

do the niggle on the mic standing by you. If you don't spend thirtock, you're close ing up to him. Nigger with thigger alex by you. You don't spend that yeah, secure to everybody right him and then he flopping it. Run Bro, baby J got a camera on you. You'll spend the story wrong. Oh man, they keep this ship tall man, you'll spend your thun about Ain't there ain't no point to get him? Nobody Nigga trying to see d C. And they're trying to see too, like you

spend you know, getting me some mother. I'm gonna Nigga with the mic, the niggle with the mic, gonna find you. Man, I'm talking about okay, okay, Nigga with the mike, But I'm talking about the DJ and all that ship. Man't we boys? We already connected and can't you know what? You don't going to go get us a bad from fatter them. I'm gonna get a downline section, Bro, this ship can be understood without trying to make a movie. That's what you would do. That's what Big Bank would do.

That's what screening that any person should do. So maybe if I'm going to spend a third of ball, this ship is well documented what we're doing, Bro, we're bringing cameras in him. It's it's up. That's a movie. The wrong. We need our We need our shoot on the screen and everything without that's a lot of money. Man. So what we're saying is, if you're gonna play hard in the club, play hard in the club. Please. We love the culture that play hard hard with the plan and

get something to show for it. That's always saying, because you can't not the nigga for a getting if we getting you came, not the promoter for getting the money. You can't really even not the nigga for doing it if they got a motive behind. But especially if you do music that fifty hunted could have did a lot for your music. But I'm saying, if you got that fit the hunt to spend, you must got some motor spend. If you can do it on one night, let's pray

that you do. Like you said, Let's hope thinking. Okay, I go to god Nam, I go to All Star about third thousand six, gets my whole budget off in the pop. That what you're saying, niggas doing no man, I'm telling you, I want to go to a star, get the sex and sex. I got the billboards, I got the drip, I got my new chain from wherever I got my chain from, It's up that's know, after this weekend, they're gonna know me or us. I don't nobody know you, bro, Yeah, nobody nobody like that. That

that that ship, that ship that makes Nigga snap. And then Niggers driving back home quiet man, quiet pen drop Nigga who spent five of team but nig spent thirty. They ain't they ain't even no church and the boys and you know what I mean, like a man, I mean it's like that ship too quiet, like trying to figure out where the fund did we go wrong? Like damn? You know what they look at it. They look at that, They followers refreshing. I'm like, hey, I don't know that's

the followers. Man, they had no follows even nothing like doing with a plan, have something to show for unless you just some just you know, if you got it, you got it. Something to the minority again, like I said, break it down again. You get fifteen people in the six ten niggas go in three thousand dollar piece. We all bringing bitches and in everything that ain't no money. See. I like the premise of that though, because see, if you gotta for me and my mind, if I spend

thirty thousand on the section. I'm gonna have my security to little baby to me and put him on my neck and we're gonna take a picture like that in a video and a goddamn but D want it to be by the little baby. He might be doing it to suck up some of the little baby's crowd. He may not be on group of time, but most of these niggas are. I respect that. I'm saying that I like the premise of you might want the prime location.

It is me that a right I thought to be next to them ain't no traction because this is what this him. You you speaking, you're speaking of a speaking of to do that. You can't say, nigga, just this situation because you're saying that this tin Man crew. You're saying that in this tin Man crew, everybody got three bands, that everybody is equally Yo. You're right, But most of the time we entertainment and we got we finished purchasing the thirty thousand lot of ticks. That's that's That's not

what I'm saying. Just one or two people footing that, That's what I'm telling. It's one or two niggas footing that thirty bill. Most crews, but the one of two niggas who fitting that thirty bill must be able to do that. Let's hope that they ain't spending thirty saying, I'm just trying to look at it as because I want I want to throw a party, and Nigga's paid thirty rights that discourage these people. We're just you know, like we're just we're just get it. Listen, I get

it too. Bamn, there happen. No, no listen, even at the ship show. We're not saying everybody, but at the ship show, you come, you get your sections and everything. There's a good chance you might meet Big Bank or get the pound email or something. You get something from the ship show when you leaves, like Bank, at least you watch everybody perform. You know what I'm saying, your hands on with the ship, you get something to show for it. I'll saying. Some of these people ain't got

nothing to show for it but empty bottles. You gotta think you can't think about that. They got that footage. We're just right here. You mean this going in video. This ship is everything. You know what I'm saying, though, Bro, we got the devote the captured this moment. Many bats coming to being my doctor. So what about what about? What about? What about? What about the wig But what about what about the wiggler who got of a free

hey man? But niggas knowing, but you ain't paid. Then you see me this money paying out on the ground, on the ground. I don't know. Listen, if I got this ship documented, if I don't spend it, third, this ship is documented. What's going on? Such setting them in the build, we're coming through his lights cameras. Actually we're making them over right. Only niggas spending. To me, I feel like only niggas spending that type of money for

niggas just making the movie. Man anything, ain't missing that money. They go back, Man, they ain't got no money like sometimes they need. They shipped clothed, ain't got nothing spending We've been staking for the whole pandemnic go down here, fuck this all star, shut up man run round though, Yeah, I get your point. Like some of them nigga like in them town, they can't really spend that money hot

like we're when black Hollywood. So the normal to see a nigga on or y'at down Raith and all this old ship and all these pieces is normal for But the other times. Niggas can't do that because they'll get hot quick as hell. You know what I'm saying. So Nick, come to Atlanta, Bama. Hold on the nigga. I see

what you're saying. Every nigga they came to All Star, we can, man, I'm saying not every but most of came the cruise they came to ball You think about it like that, everybody all the other crew that the other broke niggers in the crew, but y'all stay back. We know y'all even have no non So I'm gonna call such something, such something gonna be down on from the east side, Such something's gonna be down on from

the south side. We're gonna all the coup. They get a sension right wrong on Jake that y'all that ship be like my like my Detroit niggas they come out there, they're gonna they're gonna ship smoke out here. Smoke got fired out such ing got sick. Okay, they're going there make a movie and we're Frenna cock still be neighborhood Superstar. We're rich. Yeah, yeah, that I agree with niggas like

that though. That's all I'm saying. Like some of the niggas ain't just spending that to be next to no artist. Nigga were fea make a movie. We agree with you and your niggas like that disagree with us other niggas, but them, the niggas who fighting their way rationally with them hole to get by niggles, they're gonna spend their money. They're gonna spend their money because we could spend this money, right, Yeah,

don't be the niggles who they're trying to. I know him something to come up and stand and stand for a minute till he got there at like he looking at him make a conversation with Now I'm in the nigga y'all talking about super wigglers, w vs. Y'all trip got some homeboy. You ain't gonna give a funk what that ship called, like your homeboys in your circle the

ship's talking about, but there's some other circles. I'm just saying, what nigga will go all in on some ship like that, because that's the nigga who don't win to pay got them three thousand all the five thous for outfit paid two or three hundred part getting shifted around like a pr the finest the way, trying to finesse his way and sometimes nigga walking to that motherfucker big chance, don't spend that thun We're big chance. We can do this

ship again and again and again. We got wrapped money, right, we got street wrap mon, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but the nigga who doing that? You're gonna see he doing that like that, with that, with that, Ain't that he? Ain't the nigga buying that that? Oh yeah, you come out my mind. Ain't the nigga buying it? That buying it? Who do? I'm pieced up down that got it? And the niggas that don't. You can. It's easy to spot of tail like for sure, for sure. But I'm not

seeing the nigga. Don't saying I'm not. I'm not seeing an going that far with a cap that. I ain't seeing it. What I see a nigga go that far with a team in the cap is unlimited. It's unlimited. But got if I'm a cap, If I'm a captain like that, I'm a captain, and Jay make it look like I paid for it and ain't paid ship on your wigglers. We just said it put it in camp. Now.

I can go for nigga doing that. But the nigga, the man who actually going in this motherfucking pocket man spending that thun ball man, he could do it again my opinion, I hope so, me too. That's what I'm trying to hip. You can do it every night all year, I hope so. But that just ain't a reality. It's impossible to that every night, not every night, but frequently enough. That wasn't a one time in your life experience. That's as good as it got. I spent thirty on this

section and saw the back of little baby head. But you gotta think about you gotta think about it. Like I said, the niggas any town prepping for this ship. But we ain't doing that. We ain't doing that all stuff. So they're bad. We don't grind, we ain't doing that all. We're gonna go funk that ship up. Like think like that. Yeah, we're gonna gonna funk that ship up. It's a niggas think like that. And what was the definition for we get to our special guest that up? What does that mean?

They're gonna they're gonna, they're gonna know they're gonna know Jangles, you know, like real ship, like come up and fuck this sh up crew like but he's a different he's but again he's a different type of nigga though, like niggles coming from the towns got it and he's getting it. Some people just going out on the dream. I'm telling them, getting so much, you'll be right. But then't me getting money, man, And we're not taking nothing away getting money. Yeah, I

understand the capital the capitor. Stay away from that type of action, bro, because yes they do. But they're wiggling. They got that. They're standing like then like nigga standing all on their neck. They VACU ship. They nigga bent up in nigga. Nigga nick got money, They got space in the club. My shoulders are broad, you know how the nig got that would be twisted up in the sense like you understand, but like, no, we can see it. Things we got got standing on the highest ship. Nigga

got space. Yeah, yeah, we got breathing room this ship that we can get some more people. People. We don't want no more people type ship. You know what I'm saying. Alright, special guests, Knicky Be, you know, say we're gonna chopping up the CTE. One of the founders of ct Kinky B is on the way right here, a triple W dot Big Facts pot dot Com, The Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the Truth live for first class sounds. You know who it is, DJ Screen, Big Bank, Baby Jar.

We got a special guests up in the building. You know what I'm saying, One of the founders of CTE, Corporate Thugs Entertainment, Kinky Be. Welcome to Big Facts. What's up, my brother? How you been? How you been it? More importantly, where have you been? I'm good man, I'm blessed. Um. I've been in California for a few years. I've been

back here since just um pandemic and kicked off. So I've been back here since like um January, but in California because, hey man, you know one thing about the hustle. We're gonna We're gonna make it happen. You know, I want them to go back. I want going backtrack at least, so I'm gonna do it the other way. You know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna back track. You still talking about they watch you, but I don't hear. I

don't here. I don't, I don't here, but yeah, yeah, So let's let's start with a CTE Corporate Thugs Entertainment. How did that start? How did the entity start? Let's get a little bit into the story of that. Oh um, because it's to be clear, corporate does entertainment? You and young jeez at the time when it started? Correct, And I guess let's start with how did how did you meet? Homie? How did it form? I've heard things about you taught him how to wrap? You was wrapping first? Just give

us some clarity, a little bit of the story. No, no, no, I never actually a starter. We we met in boot camp, okay, um, I gotta see it. They shoot me out. We met and it just you know, once we we when I got off the bus, it just seemed like we just clicked, you know what I mean from this was back in it's back in nineve and we just held each other down, you know, he got he had my back out had here and then we just you know, we got through them a little eight months. So in boot camp I

had a conversation about starting the label. Was as far back as then, na, but my mind don't even owned nothing like that, right, then back then we want you know, any typical young black man and together man won't get some money, you know what I mean. That's that's that's what the conversation. You wan't about. No music, no none of that everybody when we get out here, but we're gonna get We're gonna get to it. That's what we did. So when did the conversation start about the label? After

we got out and start getting to the money. What we're gonna do. What we gonna do with the money when we when we came home, Um, we went our separate ways and um, and we linked up. He called me and you know, he was like, yo, I need to come. You know, I need to come up there, like ship, Come on, why are though? You know what I mean? Go up there? And you didn't even come up and ain't coming especially with my neighborhood. You're not coming in my neighborhood with no no, no strangers or nothing.

You get you get out for real quick. So he came through. We kicked it, and you know, we set up. But you know, he was on some other ship. I was on some other ship. You know what I mean? You get what I'm saying. Bring it down the layment term. Yet it okay, So you know he and he just he just kept telling me, like, bro, like that ship you got going on and slow, it won't slow to me because I was on a doing my thing. But you know with that with the other ship, it's just

just a different beast man. His cousin them Joe Joe, and said, I don't know, you probably know Joe Jo, but they had been around for a minute, you know what I mean, Like this this is his first cousin. He's blood cousin. And they had just um that was a name of this labor that had back in the day. That was was that what young j when he did the hardest soft? No, No, this was bere even before that, before that, the first time I saw Jesus South that that was the second thing we had put out together.

But that's how we got started. Um they had a little labor they was doing, and we were just you know, like it. That's good. I got my homeboys in my neighborhood. We can really do this ship because we what I think I saw, I was eighteen when we first started our first label. I got eighteen and I'm Brian, you know, I'm listening I'm listening to everything, but what this is

Nina do A nine is seven eight? So but I'm listening to We're Cracking back then, P and Yeah, but that I couldn't relate to that because they weren't doing without the EVA just rapping. We're talking about street ship, you know what I'm saying. So me listening, I'm listening to pe Okay, I see what you're saying and fucking uh. This is way back when cash Money had for a crackdown and that one of b GM man and I'm

just listening to this ship. I'm like, my nigga, like, I know these niggas ain't doing what we're doing the nigga rapp Like I'm out here for real, for real, and I know the bread I got an eighteen nineteen years old. I'm just listening to this ship. It's it's like, kid can't be It's just so I'm like, well, if the nick can do this ship, we can do that ship. So when when you said we though, did you was that the beginning of did you ever wrap? Yeah? Okay,

so that's what that's what you said? Was it we are? I know? We It was never like I'm not a self for Duerce that it was always it was never known him, No, that it was us. Every dollar he spent I spent, you know what I'm saying. So it was we. So we started. We had a little studio or on the east side of Making when it got it rented, bought all the studio equipment, pay somebody to come hook up this ship. You know. We just we

went to work. The first first project, we put out what's called Young Guns and it was my potent from our neighborhood co Jack Kid a little mirror. We put that out. It was cool, good little essentially that we pressed about twenty cd s, sold them like probably half of them, gave some stuff for way. We just kept pushing, man, We just kept pushing. That didn't worked out. One of

my partners caught the murder charge. He beat it good good ship kid Uh and Meal got locked up, and it was just we're just like, you know what, we gotta just keep going, Yeah, we gotta really keep going. I was on the project too, pushing ship out. I used to wrap back. I used to wrap back in the day my ship. That's what I said. When we hear these urban allegends, it could be true or false, these urban legends of keep talk Jeez, how to wrap?

Was it that, like, did you kind of show him how to at least format the ship or now not? I ain't gonna say. I ain't gonna I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say I taught him how to wrap. But Jesus were always music land kind because he used he went to bout a bunch of DJ equipment. He's a DJ, like, he had that set up in his room at the Grandma house. He's been a DJ and ship, so he always to do it. But he

was always rapping. But it was it was just like any other rapper start not you always you imitate the people that you like. So everybody was comparing him to Trick that it sounded like Trick that if you go back and listen to it. But it was his own style of the way he was doing. You know what I'm saying. I didn't teach him how to wrap, But if it wasn't for me, he wouldn't be rappings. So you know how this ship go? Man? When this is really then we locked? We locked? Yeah, we're going up.

We're going up. They come over here. Fun of this we you don't put me down that ship. Then then we got a label. You could do it. Now you can do it because after after the situation with the water that we had, I mean, what we what we were gonna do because I never I was. I was always the type of guy that even from being in the streets, I ain't like the attention. You know what I'm saying. I always wanted I want to fall back. You know, I ain't never got to be on front street.

You know, my my energy is enough for me when I was in a room, you know, I got the energy people love me, you feel saying. So I always wanted to just fall back because I was like deep deep in the streets. So I couldn't do it. Bro I couldn't do it, I think the first time. So the first time the world became aware of CT was I was. I'd probably say streets is watching. It was

birthday bash. It was a million people were kind of familiar, like from the like on the national world, like everybody like that this sea blue not even before Wally going crazy and nobody but got something of four streets of watching. We put it was called t U I thugging on the influence when the Nigga took over the streets with that Trapper ship. No Trapper divemated international, but streets is watching was had it on fire, like oh yeah, to do what come with trapa di treat screeks watching? You

know that should be like didn't going crazy? But then traport stepp is still you get what I'm saying, Like the whole play like scree watching got now PML days and you know what I'm saying, Nigga's Nigga's It was like still you don't know if it's a BML artist, what is it? You know what I'm saying, watching it

or not? It's ct ship a drawn when I'm talking that ship like he said, like like Trapper Die established him as his own man and his own brand, the whole brand cell everybody like it was we're here now on trapic dot to me like she's watching, like Nigga, We're coming in their bit. It was still like even with it being with just one, even though we did have our own ship, but it would ship one big family. It was a whole movement in itself. But free baked

every every yeah, free big meat. But we all had you know, they had that ship. We had all ship and we just became one and that ship just exploded. Bro. Yeah, and we put a lot of work in when you knew, like you knew like, oh no, we got something. We got something, man, you know what, you know what's crazy?

Just another statue of limitation, my nigga, Like I know, Lie, I was still didn't streating the guy out playing them at because I didn't believe it because with with people like myself, like that ship that you know, anything that happened, you know what I'm saying. So I was like cold, but I still need to backup Nick what leave that? You know what I mean? But you know after that, I just you know, I just cold turkey man. I was like, you know, this ship gonna work. That ship

gonna work. And I just you know, I kept it pushing and we went hard like just like if I'm going harder in the street. We took this into the same time. Bro. We just kept it pushing, Bro, were not let up. What was the biggest music accomplishment was it? Like obviously making the money, but you know what I'm saying, like the plaque obviously probably the first jay Z feature was big. You know what I'm saying, like, but what

what was the mouth stone for you? That that probably brought the biggest smile to your face other than the business and the money. We got nominated for a Grammy. That was it, bro, Like we had arrived, you know what I mean? Like we really had arrived and being some street niggers to be in the head in the Grammys, like to get nominated for a gram That's that deep. Bro. That was like, I'm like, yo, you know what we did that? Can't nobody take that away? We did that?

So we had the Grammys fatah, who are? Yeah? Yeah, y'all got to say our names. Yeah, we made some noise so that Yeah. So so when you look at um, a situation like that, a legacy such as that, at what point, like, at what point did it start to go the other way? At what point did y'all separate? You know what I'm saying, because that's that's that's what we see time and time again with legacies and camps up.

But yeah, what what was that point? Honestly? Bro? Like, and he just said some on this this last album, you know, like I ain't never said nothing never, I hope I'm a real nigger like I take all your secrets to the grave, even though we're like that's what I do, like to nigga and none of that. But it was just a lot of funked up ship. It was just a lot of funked up ship. I would rather cross me in the streets because we can handle

that a different way. But how do we get how we go from doing what we did over on this side and we get over here? What? What the what the this ship ain't even ran, bro? This ship is the music it's it ain't it ain't. That's when you really supposed to hold it down, you know what I mean. But to get over here and for the change up that ship, I don't understand. I couldn't understand it, because if you're a real nigger, you don't understand like how

you're doing this. I didn't do nothing, you know. It was some ship he had was saying something to my stole stole some money or something. I'm like, bro, like how could I steal some money? All your money go straight to the accountant every Monday. They cut me a check for you know what I'm saying. It was. It was just a lot of bullshit that he was put in the mix that I didn't like. I started. I

wanted to say something I don't like. You know what, I don't gotta do that because they get to the point where you felt like because there was a portcase like, how did it get to that point? We got to go in to port about this court case came well, this where the problem come in. We had a label, right, we had we had a labor deal with death. We had they got a three million one no one, no

problem with that. That was split. The problem came in when it was trying to renegotiate with his project MM. We had the same lawyer Donald word which I advise any orders do not have the same lawyer as the person that you signed to. People people do it. But this is my nigger. I ain't gotta We're good. You know what I'm saying. I ain't. I ain't gotta worry about nothing. So but what happened was they had sent a letter direction to the label and diverting money from

the company was going directly to him. The first check we got it came to me, my lord. I went to the lawyer office, got the check and basically just not to cut you off, but for those that don't know. A letter of direction is a legal piece of paper basically stating where the dispersement of funds and supposed to go. Okay, So with that said, first the money come to us together. So I get the check, go to the bank here on the road. I'm like, look, bro, I got the check, Like,

I'm just hold it to you. Get back here, like now, just deposited. So I deposited money to our company at he was like, well, we'll just bust it down when we when they get back out of the road. Cool. So I go check the uh the company account one day the money being moved. What the fuck? So he moved the money from the company account out your brother, mother and be here like, ye, don't worry about I take care when we when I get back. Okay, that my nick, I ain't trip, you know, I think that

that money ain't ship so cool. So one thing that get to another. We're working. I ain't even honestly, I ain't even though about it no more. And we're on the road, were and we're in a whole another country. Were coming back. But then we go back in we're trying to renegotiate because what happened, what every album. We re negotiate because we would always say them more records. So this time around, the check didn't come at all at all. So then I was like, hold the funk up?

So I asked Donald. Donald was like, well, you need to talk to Jessy. So then I talked to him. Then he telling me, like, you know, I don't hear on the it was going on something like all right, cool, So I see what's going on now. So what I did, well, this is back in two thousand, Elvin. I got my own attorney, which I don't care who you're doing being in it. You shall. Everybody should have their own attorney because ain't nobody gonna take care of your being is

like your attorney. So once I get my attorney, she get all the docs and get all the docs from death Jam. And that's when we found out to let up direction. So my Atturney called here. We polled the gout together. Sit down and before this just let let y'all know, before the even the sup thing came along, just just think about this hat went on for about a year. Nobody even know. I ain't saying nothing. He didn't say nothing. We're supposed to sit down. We wouldn't admit.

It's a spot right over there in Buckhead used to be um all right, once you get off Lenis Road, it's like a little Agent Susie spot right there. They closed it down, now, you know what talk about? Yeah, they this ship down there. We met man, jeez, he met went over there talk. He was like, Bro, we're gonna fix this ship. I got you, don't worry about it. The next day, my nigga, don't you know? I called this nigger nigga and not answering something like what the fuck?

So I called my lawyer. Well, because we put it all, get it one't wrong and figure that out some money, you know what I mean, figure it out. So he stopped asking my phone call. You can't think of nothing. I ain't can y'all. You can't think of nothing you did. I don't know that man or die. You know. I'm

just saying it couldn't be anything that I mean. If we might look over ship there, we could have it could have we could have You could have put him in a position that he don't even know how to explain, Like you think y'all can ever have a real conversation though, a real conversation like now, because it's like it's like to me, no, you know, no, I mean now, yeah, I do. I mean back then. You know, I'm young,

I'm bullheaded. I wanta trying to hear that ship now, yeah, definitely because like at the because she ain't worth like you think. This man is the godfather my son, like all this should hap around the same time. He hadn't seen my son in years, Like I know, his son called me uncle, like I except it man, grandma. How he accepted my auntie. How we know this this ship go. It wasn't just like we were just friend, bro, this was we were brothers. I'm saying this ain't no, this

ain't this one net bro. Like this man that left seven eight hundred thousand dollars with me for months, he come back that ship still there. I got the money, you know what I'm saying. I think I got everything a matter of fact, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, for that ship to happen, man, and I just didn't understand it. And at the end of the day, I

still don't understand it. But so so, but on paper, you were bonded to your percentage of your cuts fifty partner, so but how did it because it came out in the press and you could say, but you didn't end up winning the case, right, No, I didn't. Let me tell you why. So I lost the case on technical default. Okay, you gotta understand. I ain't in the streets no more. All my all the money I got saved up, all the I got bills. I had the pent house in New York, had a condle in Miami, and I had

just bought another, actually two houses here in Atlanta. And I had a spot in California. So we're talking about bills, my bills, what damn it? Six thou all a month and not? And that ain't including my tricking off, you know I got that. Ain't talking about the hole I had on the side. All kind of ship, understand. So I'm just I'm getting it to your rear, and that's

what I'm married now. But I'm just saying back then, back then, Yeah, but I got all these I got these bills, so my my bills is like my bills house. So the money. You gotta understand. When you were in the street, bro, you don't think this ship is gonna stop. I was like, okay, cool, you ain't thinking this ship, and it's stopped. This ship, it's gonna it's gonna for your time when they're gonna stop. And when to stop, you just gotta be prepared. And I wasn't prepared, So

understand this. So I got my bills, I got my side bills. Then on top of that, I gotta I gotta pay this lawyer. So if you ain't, I ain't out here doing nothing no more. You got money saved, but but you ain't got nothing coming in. You're just going out, you know what I'm saying. Then you got credit card bills, and that motherfucker, the devil, you just swiping like a motherfucker credit. They were like, motherfucker. So I'm I'm like, damn well, I gotta keeping up. You

gotta the case costs me like three fifty. You gotta pay this ship out of pocket. So your money just just dwindling, you know what I'm saying. He only won that lawsuit, my nigger, because I found bankruptcy. And what rich people do when they got a bunch of assets, a bunch of ship to keep their money and keeps up, they filed bankruptcs. I filed bankruptcy to stop the bleeding so, but when you file bankruptcy, you relinquish any of your rights in any business that you have because you gotta

bring everything to the table. You understand I'm saying so that that's already. Didn't know that before. No, you know, I didn't learn this ship to after bro. Even my lawyer didn't even even though he was like, yo, damn. But I took it on the cham my nigger. I kept it pushing. You know. I ain't look back, you know, I ain't. You know I'm here. So when when anything happens big, like he had a reunion concert, did you attend? Did you want to attend? Did you want I'm not fake.

I ain't even play with you and act like and be fake either. I ain't gonna do none of that ship because I know how the man. I know, I know every I know everything, gonna do it before you do it. He he's smart, but he ain't smart. Sometimes I say, the smartest dumb motherfucker. I know you know what I mean, cause he just do bullshit And you don't have to the concert. When that tenth anniversary ship came,

everybody called him. He's having people calling me and my partner Filosopher can hit me and be like, yo, kin't just listen to him, just here him out, because I was like, funk that ship because you don't he ain't calling me. It justs not genuine. You just called me for the look. You know what I'm saying, just ship, the look could have lived to something genuine though. That's what got what I'm saying, I'm being boyhaded you. No, No, it's because it's I don't know how to take it.

I don't know how to put it in no other kind of weight. That's what it is. Like. No, no, lie, like when I bro when they tried, but I was so fucking angry, like I could have I could have shied the t on the stay. I was angry, mynn. I really wanted to do something to this man. But if you if you got love for a nigger, you

never want to see nothing happened to him. That's so my The love outweigh everything, and that would really fucked me up because I put my friendship before my business and wind up getting sucked in in and that's bad. You know what I'm saying That that's the only that's my only regret. I shouldn't have put that because one thing about it. He didn't. He kept it being you know what I'm saying, So you just it's it's a lesson.

Learn it never happened again. But you know we man, we keep pushing and you know now yeah, you know like my my Pardner, like everybody, everybody's still cool, but everybody cool in their own way. Everybody knows Jesus ain't ship, but they deal with him a card, you know what I'm saying. Like, so one day I don't maybe we will sit down and we can put this ship behind us because it's it's open. Man. It's been fucking ten plus. Yeah, bro, I got a five months I got six months old baby,

like she's six months. You've never seen a girl girl? Man, Yeah, so hopefully we can you know, put it, put it,

put it, put it behind us. Man. Well well you think another uh CT and and never have another artist to get its big like JEU because we was we only attracted niggas like us, you know what I'm saying, And it wouldn't work Like I mean, man, you sat down and try to do something and you know what I'm saying, So you got to understand it ain't gonna I learned my lesson dealing with that if you if you have a label, none of the artists could be the same for the work. You can't. You're gonna gonna

have one big bank. You can't have to like don't nobody want to. But they are already getting it from him flying, So you gotta have a different the pin too though, I gotta out of the pends though if you trace you thu thug gonna I'm similar that ship working. I feel like they different. Goddamn uh what the other? Um? They can't got it? The h on the other your niggas, Yeah, all them niggas similar because they got slainly going that. But they all it's just like they bringing this ship separate.

But as a group, you know what I'm saying, like against like the artists got to really be I mean for you to be a little meet you. We gotta we gotta say this. It's different times. Can't do it on your own. It's different times. Right now, everything sounded everything sounded like like you just the artist you just name and we can name set other sound just like that. Back then it was music was totally different. It was totally different. Like you really had to you really had

to be talking that ship. Now, niggas ain't. It's the beats. It's the beats now they're driving amusing, not the lyrical country. The niggas ain't even seen your ship words for how they're doing. Back in the day. You had to really be talking some ship back what fifteen years ago to get your ship off, you know what I'm saying. And the beats had to be strong like that, definitely had the beat had to be definitely strong. What you think?

What you think um like coming into the industry, Like what you think you left in the streets that you should have broke, like in mind space, like how you moving in the streets? What you think you left? Like, Damn, I gotta be this person now because I'm on the industry instead of you know what I'm saying, I didn't because I have to talk to a lot of people, a lot of a lot of executives really fun with men.

They just told me, you know, just leave that street mentality out of it, because nobody's gonna want to deal with that, you know what I'm saying. And sometimes man him just had the conversation you like, bro, you need to get back on your ship. You need the same nigga.

But I'm like, bro, I can't be that. If we're trying to get what we would have never if we if I've been the ignorant nigger was coming up, we would have never got No aecah Like, we can't be that and we're trying to do that, would have never made My attitude was so fucked up, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, just it just it just come with it, come with time, and it come with Just grow, bro, because you can't be a hard head dealing with in the in the corporate world. It don't mix. For sure,

it don't mix. So you just don't. I don't regret nothing I did. I feel like we did it right, wasn't it man? My nigga losing out bun. But other than that, like we did we did that ship right. This is a two part questions. So before before it even happened, I don't know you be on social media, you'd be I'm trying to get I'm trying to get like I needed to, but Tink is like a grandpa. I'm trying to I'm trying to get my social media

game up. But I'm saying, okay, so I don't know how you heard about it, But how did you before it even happened when you heard about the versus battle? Like what was your first reaction to, Okay, this is something that we thought would never happen, that they're saying it's gonna happen, because me personally, when I first saw it, I didn't believe I thought it was fair because it's like like I was there, you were there, like you

were like way closer to it. But it was like coming from a lot of people that don't really know the full scope and the depth and how deep that ship was back then and how serious it was, thinking like being in it, we'll never see this happen when you saw like the flyer go up and you actually saw like Timberland and Swiss posted like it's not a meme, Like how the fund did you feel about that? Like

in real life? Like what like were you thinking? I felt that was the most disrespectful ship I ever seen in my life. Bro, I don't I don't understand what part is disrespect from what angle like, just just break it down for the people that don't know like the depth of the situation. Okay, like my well, I'm from my nigger. I'm from the West Side of Making. One of my friends, I'll say, life in this bullshit music game.

These two dudes had their issues, but it was I don't even know what the It was a bunch of bullshit. Shouldn't never happened. When I heard this fucking versus ship, I didn't understand. I don't I don't even know why he did he did it. It didn't make sense. And at the end of the day, I don't care what nobody say that man the United States of America, any street nigga lost all respect for that man that fucking day.

He lost all his street credibility that day. Due to the fact that I don't give a funk When the nigga lose, they like man, I ain't no, ain't no peace, and of my nigga, never be peace, money never ever. Because you're doing this ship to sell records. So how what about these other people like you trying to explain this ship. You know what I'm saying, It just it just that ship just went cool. It just it just hit home. A lot of people were affected by a

lot of people would hurt. So needs to say you didn't watch it, not at all, not at all, and I and Gucci did everything he was supposed to do because if that were me, I would have been. You have have been every bitch had nigga fuck nigga, whoop the whoop, because that's the time to get this ship off, that cool ship playing. He got played. He got played real bad and that's ship. It just I don't understand how he sleep at night knowing that ship happened, this

fucking seller album. Come on, man, if you want to test heed, come get me. Can you come back? Get me? Get a hit record? He hand come back, he handle hit record since I stopped believe that he ain't stopped with me. So maybe the premise of him, the premise of maybe he did it too, setting an example for the un that man ain't could be. How you know how you gonna say he in a different space. Though we all in different spaces. We ain't the same people. Bro,

You ain't the same thing you want fifteen years ago? Damn. But but bro, he did that ship that should have been done. Man, I don't like I don't get how much money sometimes as men, you can't you do that. You can't do anything for money. Man, I'm a slight look a few. So you're saying maybe you would just say that. So, but you say he should come back and get you. Is that a possibility now that that has happened. I'm just trying to add it up like that the verses happened, and you say that a lot

of people lost respect for him. Could he call you? And because y'all do business and get money, I mean understand that. I don't. I mean, I probably always some money to get. But I mean, he ain't nobody like what he's like a a legendary artist now, so what he'll be He'll be calling get a bunch of get spot dates. He and I don't think he ever said the record that we used to say. That's not gonna happen at the moment because we're in a new time,

you know what I'm saying. But what if it's just business? It ain't it ain't it ain't about no money, you know what I'm saying, Like that conversation, that initial conversation, long conversation would have to be had in order for that ship to even click to make sense. Yeah, but I don't think whatever I would for its business like that. I mean, I don't have to because I don't need it, you know what I'm saying. But if anything for as for these for these kids, that's a different stories. What

I'm saying, ain't about the money. I don't need money. I don't. I'm good, you know what I'm saying. But anything else, you know, it would really be for the kids, like I missed like Darius, like this is my nephew. You know what I'm saying, I ain't seen it. I ain't seen him and going on how long Jesus gotta fucking guard something he don't even say like my son asked about him, you know what I'm saying. So if anything other than that for the kids and money wise,

like I don't doing any business, I don't. I don't foresee that. So no ct reunion meeting that's in blood raw slick pillar. I would love to see that carving fifteen. I would. I would love to see that, like I really would. Um, I just don't know, because you gotta understand, ain't just it's not just k it ain't me understanding like it's a it's a everybody. You know what I'm saying.

I saw speaking with him. Do you speak to all the other right here right because you know niggas be on niggas be could niggas feel like what I'm saying is, can he feel like nigga switched on him? Nah? Bro nah compa to mice so we can hear you know that was no no what I'm saying that you know, because people have their own Yeah, but you're right, you know what you know, their own ship, and they'd be like ship. I can feel wait a bit where it's like,

funk everything go over there. Niggas can get that in there. But that's why as like, is there anything like? But I can't let me say something please, just just to play Devil's advocate, And what Black is saying about somebody in a situation like that, a person feeling like everybody switched on them and funk everything over there. If it's a situation where they feel like everybody switched on them and then everybody else has falling out with each other, okay, yeah,

that might make sense. But if it's a situation where they feel like everybody switched on them, but everybody over here is still good, good and together in one, then it's kind of difficult to perpetuate that narrative because at the end of the day. I mean, maybe I'm neiga get to a point be like I ain't sing I say fun everybody ain't gotta worry about nothing, But you gotta understand what I'm saying. You got something to think like that, Like I don't know who who who? Ain't

trying to think of that out. But sometimes in life, man, I've come to learn that sometimes people feel like when they got money, they don't need nobody you understanding, Like that's some people's men talking about that before. Now I'm just trying to see and they don't say go back, bro, listen, man, listen to me. I know this man money. There ain't no nigga that you know. We met kicking for two years, went hard, hanging out then clip not man, we like this.

I don't think the only thing the only thing he don't think didn't have his MoMA didn't have me. That's it, Like this is my this is my brother, bro, Like do you understand I'm saying, like this ship go deep? So I know you know what I'm saying. I know what it is and how it is. Maybe I don't think it was a miscommunication, but sometimes that's what I'm saying. Like something that happened that you don't even you ain't even thinking what nothing could have been everything to the name.

But how how you my brother and you can't come talking facts? Yeah, facts, I'm just saying facts, but get what You're just sitting there and said that you got damn you was hot hit it. So maybe the nigga felt like if I brained it to him, we're gonna go this. I don't want to go this route with my but I'm trying. We had we had so much other ship going on, but it was just maybe, I don't know, that's a good question. You want to say it like this. It could be a whole bunch of

ship another that you. He could probably tell you like, well this happened, bra I ain't know how to would he be like, damn that ship was a lie or whatever? Several conversations he just holding on too, like, man, you know what, he could be the same hurt as you about some ship you don't even know he heard about it, and that's some real ship. No, don't saying that's real ship, like Nick could be hurt behind some ship a lie,

bitch could have been. I told him, can't try to funk me and you don't even know right, and it could have been comes back to these bitches. She could be a whole lot like you know what I'm saying, nigga, he don't even know how to proke my nigga about be my brother ain't eventhing. But I believe this bitch.

What I'm not saying that this is the case. Yeah, just say, some real bullshit could be not happening, and home could be on some ill ship because like you said, y'all brothers, no reading, y'all ain't cross each other in the deadness game. Ever, I'll get to this rap ship and some bullshit happened, but we don't never know what. But I think he did say when Nate, when y'all met at the food spot, hold hold hol did you ever see him doing this to you or whatever you

feel like he did? Did you ever see this? Not what I mean, it might not it might feel like you did something m and but he's saying when we got to the point of sitting down at the I probably tried stealing. I probably try I probably had my Oh I'm not not making you well. I probably wanted to tell you that day but couldn't. Yeah, I got that ship I'm just saying, got looking ship from angle. I just trying to see a nigga can't be that

fucked up. Yeah, but hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on having their owners back back to the anniversary thing. So I take my partner calling me old security calling me, uh my pot like man just talked to him. Just hear him out because I ain't did that money like like,

but you just made me aware. Maybe maybe exactly, but you don't know what you didn't even you know what I like about you got some many but in the nigga trying to be closer, closer to y'all lives, could be saying any motherfucker and it's the really ship ever bro like and niggas gonna y'all have to pay me for being a duct on this mother. This is different. This ain't big bank, no, but it's a real ship though it could be a nigger. Imagine how much nigga

telling Kink about this nigga. Well, you know what, See, that's the thing with men. I don't that nigga get closer like I never have. I don't and I don't but you but you don't feel like a nigga would have if you had that type of inviting anything. Yeah, you'll try to take man, your boy don't really would and you know what, you might be onto something. No, I'm just keeping it on. And I like when this ship be just so like I can't figure out what the fund is a nigga like, I ain't it. You

don't never know what what what? I could love a motherfucker's so much that I believe anything they say about anybody. You're right, Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Biscuit, Come tell me some ship. And I just don't even and don't tell him because on him and I love this bit you on. I'm gonna pick her. I'm gonna pick him, you know what I'm saying, Like real ship. You never know, bro,

I don't know. I just hate that kind of energy because at the end of the day, like I was inspired by that ship too, not just Jesus, the artists like they whold play having the business, nigga street niggas hand in the business. We can do this ship like he said, he's seen Peter them do that. You stuck in there like them. Goot you whoever we're doing this ship, I can do. You know what I'm saying, so this

ship just everything to me, I believe it'd be misunderstandings. Bro, you gotta be Yeah, I never looked at it like that, and they gotta be. You got you just made a bad point, straight up. I don't know. I hope. I hope that should leads to something real, you know what, because it needed could be done. And then she goes so long, so much bullshit happened after that, making a real situation. You get what I'm saying. So much ship be said and done after that little ship whatever the

money missing rerouted? Who now? Now I I'm built up in me for cute so they can't never be fixed. Facts, big facts, biggest facts that real though, brogg back to the back to the okay that everybody calling. I was like, you know what, let me see what's going on because I'm not reaching out because I don't have to reach out, you know what I'm saying. So he he calling, so I get a private privam I'm popping up on my phone. I didn't answer them a pot of comba A uh,

dude gonna be calling you. I'm like, all right, So I guess that was him. Sold He called like, yo, what's up? Guess what the first thing is. Nigga said on the phone, my name, I heard you want highlight me? Fuck, Nigga said, my nigga heard wrong. Bam bammed on it because first of all, you approach me wrong. So was it the person some big bairey little brother ship, bro,

that got going on? Nobody don't want to fold? You know what I'm saying, so like, what's something No, but I'm saying like on some real nigga ship, that how that ship be? Like you know me, I know you, I know what about what to say to make you go there. I know what you say made me good. We're gonna hang up because we ain't trying to get to the bottom of this ship basically, and it just it would brush the bottom of that. I don't say, bro,

why are you doing me like that? Whatever he needs to say, you need to say, why are you doing me like that? Why this ship happen? Why? Why? You know? I want to know and maybe maybe maybe this needed to happen to figure the ship out, like because I really to this day, I want to know. It's it's like you know how women be looking for closure and you know I want alogy. I'm like so so I was just like, man, nigga, don't, nigga, don't nick, just don't do this much like because you can't. He can't.

He can't no matter where you where he going life, he can't tell the story and you can't do the same. You know what I'm saying. They're just they're just that's just how this ship go. And a lot of people said, don't know, um that we ain't sucking around or having sucked around. No, homo, I mean you know around like we we ain't kicking or whatever. Because sometimes I go and people are like, yo, what's the hot Jesus doing?

And I just you know, I know, he good, you know what every you know, everything cool, and you know, I just keep it pushing. But a lot of people don't know. But the niggas in the street, No, that ship affected niggas in the street, Like I just didn't understand. Like the crazy part is we're supposed to keep it real, street n wake up every day and look yourself in the mirror. I'm a real nigga, you know what I'm saying.

But do you think the industry funked it up? Like because it was fame and all that type there was a lot of people got in here. I know a lot of people. Could you just think about that, like if y'all did an other business got them or whatever, it was been different because a lot of people, a lot of people wanting what I had, you know what I'm saying, because now was the influence then my man like my man gonna so you know, niggas gonna want to trying to say, you know, people are gonna try

to split it up. Yeah, they definitely matter who it is. It could be family, momy, could be whoever, somebody that really love this man or really love you trying to I'm telling you, but I just see this ship manipulated. But now if I moved you out the position, maybe I'll be able to get closer. Yeatand for us rapping wide bro, like we would probably on a on a on a good month, slow Minke or whatever, two mellion

ones just for just like it was. It was that like we created a camp in the city where they had they Nigga's going to get the fifty sixties nol for wrapping that ship was nunheard of. That without an album, Yeah, without an album, like I don't know nothing, nigger we were getting the show. We're working for nights a week. Bro, that's that's over million all the month for real, like you, So you gotta understand that greed got in the way.

A lot of people was in it, you know. I you just brought a lot of ship to the head, bro, like for real, this shn't listened to it. And I don't talk about people, but I don't talk about this ship. But I never really talked about amongst my friends or nothing. But you just like you said, some real ship, Bro, A nigger could steal some money and being stolen on your face, it's real ship. Nick could do that. They're like,

ain't know what? Who ain't nowhere? Else couldn't money could have got here besides the the only, the only, Um, I won't even say it with the money problems. I'm just saying because you said somebody we had we had a situation where um we we we had the like at the parties, right and I had Smurf working for me as uh role manager. So Jesus fee was thirty thousand,

thirty thousand for a party. So but so what I did was because he got all these he got all these does on the road with him, and they wasn't getting paid. They weren't eating or what I mean, they was eating, but they weren't getting paid. You know, nig just want to be around. I hang around, so but I'm like, they calling my phone, you know, they need money. So what happened? Well, I may always made a shoot.

My man got his feet point blank. So if if if Smurf put an extra five on that for him, because I don't know if Jesus was kicking him back or whatever, but if he put a five, I would like, look, Smurfs, so that's what we do. You take that, make sure my man get his and whatever he could. Promoter do it all the time. Right they put their feet on top, you know or whatever. As long as the orders to get their feet, they're good. But whatever extra the promoter

take that ship for itself. It's not taking a part. Got a point and go sell it if you If I want thirty and I could say that being for fifty the extra mind, so what Smurf who was doing here? Take it? He might say that he might get thirty five, He may get maybe thirty two or whatever. So I would like, look, bro, whatever you getting off of that ship, you need to split that. So um, somehow Jesus found out.

I told He asked me. I was like, yeah, bro, I probably maybe probably maybe by seventi five extra we get into all. I said, you know what, my nigga, I get him money back. I wrote him a check for sentifive do. No, I didn't write a check. I gave him cash. He got your money back just being a real nigger, because I get way he could have took that. And you felt give for paying while you're paying me for some ship they want ship. No, you don't know. I get what you're saying, but I can

take it like that. But you don't like saying you don't understand this man mentor oh you understand I'm saying, like he just go off the off the ledge. I don't need them. I don't need them guys on the road because they're here to protect him. I don't need them on the road feeling nothing. So I'm a key of this ship. Bro. He got a little money, we'll keep a pushing. And we kept a pushing because then I think you don't give a funk about nothing. But

listen to the music. He if you really participate everything, he said, it's right there in the music. He don't give a funk about nothing but a dollar? Are you cool? You gotta respect that. And I didn't realize until afterwards. But if you listen, if you go back and listen to all that ship, bro, he man don't gonna suk about nothing but some money. Yeah, really listen to it. You tell you I don't need nothing? What's the money?

That's it? He really don't man? That just that ship crazy? Hopefully, you know, I mean hopefully we we we just fan of the CT brand, Like you said, what it went down in history and everything. So we've seen him before, jay Z damned that other people, you know what I'm saying. Like we've seen it happen before. We don't know why. But hopefully one day. I just like to see the reunion. I mean me too, but I guess we'll see. That's what we'll see moving forward. So what's going on now

with KINKYB? What you got with life after CT? I know you got the hush management, no hold on, hold on, See Johnny had no conversation. If you can say something to need what you say to him, that's straight up.

I don't even know, bro, Like I read it. If I could say something that right now, like, bro, I ain't I ain't locking on love for you, the real I ain't no love that So you know that's go ahead scream no. But it's it's just like I know, you got like the hush management, you got the artists that you're working with, you got your other ship out there. You know what I'm saying, that's like really doing extremely well. So just kind of talk about that and like the

space that you've been in. Like I said, life after CT, oh, life after CT moved to California, Uh, to the last level little ship I had, Like no, let me let me tell you not to let me tell you all the story. Let me tell you all the story. Before all this, I was like this, don't lie, just my nigger. After all this ship was over after case and everything, right, I was, I'm kind of funked up. I mean, you know, a couple hundred dollars sucked up from me to having

the money I had. That's that you broke. Yeah, you broke, you know what I'm saying. Three months out of here. So so I had like three hundred th cash. I guess this is my brain. So I like, you know what, let me do something with this that I can keep this ship going. And I know that I know the party ship doing the party right, you know, and no ship come to to make him off of them, Like you know what, this is my motherfucker th five. I took all that money, my nigger, I bought Kevin Gates.

This is the peak that these niggas peeking at Kevin Gates. The this is a home coming, folks at home coming with ug and uh yo, got it bro In ninety days Monday, got out two hundred thousand dollars. Bro. I ain't even make the motherfucker money back. Bro, gotta hit me with no, dude, this was a month this month after month, So man, I funked out some of my money. I would like, you know what, if I could just make the principal back, I'm good, but I lost my

Asshut is that market? That market? Um? They don't permit it. They're bringing like I thought I was doing with got it with his travel, They got it now with your book. Got it well back then when the book and got he got about his whole um the sound ship. He had a truck come up that was twenty thousand all just for the music for for him to see what

I'm saying. Then it traveled. So I was out like ninety grand just with everything with him, and then these motherfucker carbing and and carbing, and Jesus had gonna get the idea to come down that book a show in the middle of my show too. Two days ship ship the nig they came down. They did a show two days before mine. They look at that ship. Man, I made I made some money. I just didn't I didn't make the money back, so I guess they called it. Then they come shortstop and you know how we call

short stopping on my block. You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, damn, oh, so they just suck you out. I guess I guess I want working with them. So they were like, you know what, we know they want to see him down. Yeah, you got crossing me up, man, But it was out a little man. It was all fut one. I passed out a lot of my mother money. But hey man, it wasn't So now can't you be as good though you're good? Oh man, I'm going that is a good situations. Good you're married, like you said

you got. Yeah, let me go back. Let me go back, take a time, take it time. So I moved to California. I was like, Bro, I gotta get out of here. Bro like, I'm just I'm just I'm just around here. I had to hit the ceiling, you know, the only you know I had it. I hadn't done it on a large scale else, So what what could I do? You know what I'm saying. So I like, Bro, I ain't even ain't selling them more dope, I ain't. I ain't doing that ship. So I'm like, what the fund

could I do? I'm a hustler. I won't go one day, No Lie, I'm gonna win the California. No Lie called my nigger, I said, totally up and to do. He was like, you know, that's that's my niggerhead. Twin something else, maybe like five million plus CDs more than that, more than that, he lied more than that, but he he was. My motivation was like Bro, jet gold, Bro, But then you went out and then seeing your favor birthen more than got then your face, nigga face worth more than then.

I touched down. No Lie, I got a spot right in a town house right in West Hollywood, and I just plan. I just put it down, bro, and I got a lot of connections and then deal what I did. But I wanted to really get into the candidate's business. Old what I did, Well, I went up north. I had to get out, you know, being in l A that sh it expensive of the motherfucker you know, like niggah. So I go up north and set up shop. I had, I had somebody up there. We had started out with

first of the situation. We had three acres I bought. I bought some land, set up. Um, my partner invested with me right here. First year. Bullshit, Bro, I ain't even lie. They go, I'm not in the middle of nowhere growing, they ain't got no running water. I'm o head, No, this this real story, bro. So you let you know. I'm ann hustle to my nigger. I'm not hitting the middle of nowhere. I got ain't no running water, no fucking lights, and a fucking trailer on three acre plot.

So for I was, I was up there for a year. For a year, Monday I had to go to a motherfucking ray tracked gas station and take the shower every day. So this is the this is this is the time when just hear say what people were like just basically disappeared. Nobody knew what you were. Yeah, I was like mad right now, I'm like, no, man, they don't wondering like I'm on, but I'm on my ship though, I'm mustling,

you know, so I go up here. Bro, I'm really pretty much on paying my dude because I'm learning that I'm learning. So the first year it was it was fucked up. Bro, I ain't let my first year sucked up? You know what I mean, didn't make no money? What year was that? This wasn't two. This is like I've been out there for a minute. It's sixteen. Ship funked up, crop didn't come bat right. But it's it's anything. If you just get into it, you gotta learn. You got

its trialing trip relations. So I just kept going, bro. Second year did all right. I kept going about my first my first property, myself and two thousand eighteen and my nigger. I ain't looked back since. It's been fucking great. I learned everything now, you know, like I'm I'm what they kind of I'm I'm what what come a border culturist? Now? Now, yeah, like that's something you know, nobody can ever take away from me like this. I will always be good with

or without nothing. But I can go set up shop any mother fucking weir and get to you know what I'm saying. So that first year man bought my own land. I had ten acres. It was cool, set up shop, real good. Second year, I quite another piece of property, and we had I was I had about this. It was like forty acres and it was set up on the hill in Santa Cruz. But he went down, went down that. Yeah. I had six greenhouses on that bit, six like depth green houses. And it's been only every

since and it got to feel good. You know, it's legal. You ain't doing it legal like you know what, man, everybody people come through like you know, and I'm a black man, you know what I mean? So and that's black man. You. I'm here doing this ship, bro. Can't nobody take that ship from me? I can nobody take that from me? By down man like a motherfucker for real. But I ain't a lay down anything like men, and no lay down in me. Man. We appreciate you coming through, King,

Hey man, I appreciate y'all having me. Man, y'all see a lot more man like I'm back in this city. Hey, I just bought me three acres here in Atlanta about be a man, motherfucking house. And after we live with me and Junior ly here today we're here to go sign out least. We got a studio around the mother. I'm about to be a studio. So we're back, Baby, We're back. I got I got my label going Hush music. And what you want to know what hush stand for? It's acronym. I don't need to know this hustle until

something happen. You're gonna hustle to. We can't hosting no mo so I having that's hut we got Um. I just put out blood raw. We we we linked back. We just we linked back up. Um. He got a single out right now called Hustle for Mine doing really good on the radio. Get a lot of good feedback from it. A lot of programs directed calling me for the record. So you know that's that's the first release that we put out on the label. Um. After this, we're about to I'm about to drop beat Jess. Shout

I just beat Jess. He about to drop a single called got Motion and shout out to Drip Google, shout out the King Moses, your King Moses got a single coming out too, called Smoking. But that's that's that's it right now coming from the Hush label. So y'all be on the lookout and shout out to Champ Taylor, another artist and uh DeLorean Hush underscore Kinky b Lu. Y'all follow kick you bet on Instagram, Big shotshot to Kinky be pulling up the big fast triple w dot Big

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