BIG FACTS feat. JERRIKA KARLAE

What's on your mind? What we're talking about today? Um? Honestly, I want to talk about the fire As mixtape. Stop. Okay, So we'll talk about your music and your projects, but on Big Facts we'd like to have conversations. So I'm ready for that too. Okay, all right, so where we let's start. Let's start with you. You have something, ask what the name of it? Oh, the name of the project. We'll get to it. Let's let's wait. Let's wait for that, all right, So I'll be on your Twitter, right So

for stop? Do you run your on Twitter? Those your thoughts because you just randomly be putting Yeah, I love Twitter. That's like my go to So one thing that you said was and I take it this as part of your music journey, Like I feel like everybody should do music, even if you're not trying to do it professionally, because it's therapy, because you digging a little more into that week. Yeah, Like, um, I just feel like you don't. Like I was saying it to say, like you don't. You don't have to

be serious. You don't gotta like putting music out as an artist. But I feel like a lot of younger people like we need some type of therapy. And when you hear that, you kind of be like, I ain't go into therapy or I'm not doing this. So I feel like it's something it's therapeutic, and I feel like, you know it's needed because I feel like you tell somebody like, oh you need to go to therapy, you know, find a release. No, We're gonna be like no, I want to do that. So I was saying it in

that sense. How did it help you? Though? I mean, um, it helped me a lot, Like I feel like I can release, like go in the studio. I want to you know, pop my ship. I feel like, you know what I'm saying, I need to get in my bag once and might go to the studio and it's like I release it or if I want to talk about something sad, it's like it worked for me that way.

So yeah, So what is that mood on them days with the other tweets when you be popping your ship kind of you know what I'm saying, uh, getting at the haters and you know that ship you're doing on the Twitter, is that Jericho or Carl Or is it that's Jericho? But um, yeah, Like I like to be like motivational, keeping cute. But then it's like sometimes you gotta let people know, like you're not playing for real, So I gotta like sprinkle a little razzle dazzling there,

you know, let people know, like don't try me. Still, what's the what's the biggest oscar you think of being? Um in the artist? Um? I would say, like, damn, that's a great question for me. I think it's finding like an angle to come in the game. Me and like some people kind of like, you know, the super sexual side of females. Some people like you know more

so you know you're speaking about real ship. I think it's just like finding your angle and staying true to yourself, like it's so hard because I don't know, it's a lot of different like things going on today. So you know, I feel like staying true to you, it's like obstacle. I feel like, um and then sometimes like the support. I feel like male artists stick together more so than female artists, you know, I feel like they genuinely like

stick together. And it's like they go in the studio they're like, oh, let's link up, or you hop on this song. You never really get to see like a bunch of hard female artists in the studio and they're like, oh, let me hop on that, you know. So I wish it could be like more support and like it is with like male artists for sure. So let's take it all the way, all the way, all the way, all the way back. I actually wore my vintage Carolina Panther

shirt just for you, just for you. So let's go back to baby carl A and when she was growing up, when she was coming up, the type of ship that she liked to do. Did she think about rapping when she was little or like what was going on? Just just give us a glimpse into that. So um as most no, I'm from North Carolina. But music was always

like a part of my background. I feel like I was always like I did sing the lessons all of this stuff, like a lot of people don't know that, and then um, I was like righte whoultry on my phone. I didn't ever think about being an artists like hmm. I never thought about like doing music, um, even though like I was around deep in the industry like well, you know, like my parents, um, being in a music field or whatever, I didn't really think about it. Um. But yeah, it was always like in my life going

the way. So it's crazy I would panned out, but I feel like I just took a lane. And then one day I was like, shoot, I'm gonna try music and I end up liking it m um, and I was like, damn, I can do this sheet. So now I feel like it's like a it's like a goal of mine. Like I feel like, damn, I woke up, I had an idea and now it's like I'm really doing it. So it's like I gotta win at it didn't get Yeah, like it's the thing for me. What's one thing you hate that men do? What's one thing

you hate that women do? Just in general. Um for sure. Like I don't like the the overly bashing women thing. Like I mean, some some females need to be like you know, they need to hear the truth. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I get that. But it's like I feel like sometimes a misogynist. Yeah that's what it is, right, Yeah.

Like sometimes it's like a little bit like you know, like a guy that's always posting about women every day y'all, but like every day, like I can see if you're putting some real ship up and like okay, but every day all day, like you just like a woman hater. Like I just I don't like that. It makes me cringe, Like you know, it's kind of like like what do you what do you actually like in real life? Yeah, Like I don't like that, you know, um and I

think fairyman. Yeah, I think like this light skinned, dark skinned thing, like the colorism. Colorism. I don't really like care for that. That's one thing. It's like my pet peeve. I feel like, um, you can have a preference, all of us are entitled to have a preference, but I feel like have it without you know, belittle in another you know, skin tone or race and I just wish that a lot. Um, I wish the brown Scan teams

would get some more love. Like he's always red bone nies and it's nothing wrong with that, but it's like, come on, now, you know I don't like that colorism. Colorism. Speaking as a fellow Brownie, I second that much. So we take it. You've spoken to Thug he's in this spirit. You've had conversations, Yeah, I have. Um, Yeah, he's in good spirits. Um. He he like amazes me, you know with his strength and stuff. Um. And like I said before, like he always given me advice to like keep going.

So it's definitely inspiring to see, you know, how positive he is under the circumstances. Yeah, exactly, absolutely so on some day to day ship like outside of the studio, what is Jericho, what is Carlay into? Um, I'll be kicking it with my family like um. And more so, just like I'm super creative, like I like drawing stuff like that. I want to get into painting. Um, I'm about to get into acting. But I spent a lot of my time in the studio like that's like my

second home. Um. And then like I'm real close to my family, like before I feel like, well, I've always been family oriented. But yeah, but what you do if you want to have a ratchet day like the low Rella Nigga free Day, Yeah, believe it or not, that's like every other day from me. Okay, it really is like, um, get funked up, like be lowing the house with my family, Like, let you see these hang that's that's us, Like, that's us, that's me for real. We're gonna have a drink on wine.

I ain't gonna talk about niggas. I'm talking about the king about the female. You know, I feel like you don't put it on social media? Yeah, exactly what women we can have that like we've been like, I feel like as a woman, we deserve our moment to be like y'all, niggas ain't ship sometimes go to the bottom talking about to drink wine and talk about niggas. Why do women do that? Because that's our release it is And niggas don't get together smoke us and talk about women. No,

we don't because y'all are married. What's some of the ships? Do you feel like you put um you put like a sheet over or yourself like when right now, you like how you said it's every other day, but that ain't how you carry yourself. Like, yeah, that's a great question.

I feel like I put a sheet over my emotions sometimes I'm still learning like being real, like how to be vulnerable, like even in my music, like I want to, like I have music I didn't release for it's like two songs I did release this, you know, more so like my emotions. But I want to put out my sheet like what I'm talking about, like how I feel f real or like I want to I want people to hear like you know me when I'm in a

vulnerable state. It's like I'm always being so strong, like and you know, just kind of like, um, I got it. So it's like I think I put a sheet over like my true emotions about certain things like going on in the world, my personal life, you know. And I feel like I do want to be more vulnerable because I feel like people can look at a lot of things that you know, um, I've been through or how I feel and like learn from it. So that's just being real, Like I want to learn how to um

open up. And I think that's important for a lot of people because a lot of us walking around trying to be so hard and tough, you know what I'm saying, and inside like you might be going through sheet and you never know who can relate. So I think I put a sheet over just like like you know my emotions.

And sometimes too, when I piste off, like I want to go in and I feel like the omi I used to be on, like going at it like with females everything, and I realized too, like now it's for the better, you know, it's for the betterment of myself. But sometimes you gotta let that sh out. You know what I'm saying, You've got to go off sometime, like so I want to get back to that, I'll put a sheet over that. Now. I need to tell people to shut the funk up. Sometimes, Yeah, that's what I

was about to say. What what percentage of the time do you feel like you gotta representative like yourself instead of the reel you anything, Because um, I'm real big on like respect, and I feel like I'm big on like you never know you like I don't I don't mind burning bridges, But at the same time, it's like I don't know I wanted the people that's like, now I'm going to keep everything Cobra stated, I don't think I really like like confusion anymore. So now it's like,

well conflict, I avoid it. So um, I feel like with that being said, I going wrong sometime and it's like I'm just oh me and there, yeah, like exactly, so I feel like I gotta represent it him even How long how long do it take, like for you to actually put out a post? You know, because some women take you forever to get their picture right and

do how longly take a good question? Um a long time because I sit there and I'll be like I don't know, or like I got on a little sixy VIRKINI I'm like I don't know, like it's too much, and then I'd be like nao that, like you know what I'm saying. So it takes me a little minute. But I mean I'm I'm growing still, like I'm trying to be um like fuck nigga, free feelings, free, like just do that ship. I'm working on it. What what is it about it? Like, what is it judgment? I

don't think it's judgment. I think it's just like you know what I'll be thinking about. I'll be thinking about the future, like my kids and ship you know what I'm saying. So I'll just be like, mm, who do I want my children look back and like, you know what I'm saying, see me as because sometimes I look on the internet, like when I used to be on like you can go on YouTube and you know you might see me tripping out arguing. I'd be like, damn man,

I wish that she could come down. So more so be that, but the legacy I want to leave, you know, because no for real, And it's like I want this ship to be huge, but at the same time, it's like maybe he's gonna be impactful if I just don't give ye it's gonna be it's gonna show the growth and showed it like you're actually human in real life and you've had your times and had your mistakes and your funk ups, but you've grown from that to who

you are now. Right. Yeah, So that's just me being really that's like some of my thoughts for like I'm still you know, working on that. Well, some of your biggest just goals like SA, we know music, but like with some of your biggest personal goals, my personal goals, I think, um, it's one of my biggest personal goals being slow to anger. I got a bad timber. What's your son, I'm a burger? Oh well I have a

I have a really bad temper right here for real. Yeah, Like I'm just like a firecracker and like a lot of yeah yeah. So um I think that, Like I know it sounds so like small, but for me, it's big because you gotta learn when to walk away and it's like I'll be on go, I'll be ready, you know what I'm saying. So just um that and then also just kind of like being more of a light to everybody I meet, Like I just want to go around now and just kind of like how can I

impact somebody day in a good way? You know what I'm saying, Because sometimes I wake up and I just be on bullshit and then it's like you can't just let that bleed on the other people. Like that's one thing, like I just want to like it sounds cliche, but I just want to be like I want to make

people like that come in my space feel good. That's just you feel like in the past, that that that that was like the older you like you kind of just putting off that energy and you feel like you might have cause days like that, Like that's how you feel like just like like you know, like the day could have went this way, but you feel like you made it go that way, like in a good way. Yeah, because I feel like my energy take to admit that though,

because you're you're you know, we're all influencing our leaders. Yeah, and women, we were powerful creatures. Women are powerful. So sometimes you can go in a certain space and your energy can impact you know, other people. So it's like I just wanted and she's really like just I had to take away from the conversation or whatever, but she's really grown a lot from back a few years ago. Yeah, back in the day, and that you wish that you

could still keep as artist life. Um, I think, oh, saying whatever I want to say, Like I ain't gonna lie. I was on TikTok one day and this girl like they was really funking with me about some SI. They said, I didn't get somebody credit on a TikTok And you know a lot of people was like, damn, y'are bullying at her. But some people from my label told me they like TikTok is a whole different world, Like these kids on there don't play. You gotta get credit and ship.

So this girl came on there and she was like, yo, BBL body and this and this. So I wrote her back and I was like, I mean, you ain't the best built yourself, you know what I'm saying, And I should have been mindful, you know, but she had she attacked me, so you know, she she kind of like it really hurts. So I'm like, okay, well go pick out your flaws or say something about you. You know what I'm saying, Like, I know, I got a month the BBL bitch, you gotta call that out. So whatever.

And when I say, they was like, oh, she's body shaming people all of this stuff. And I feel like the new part of me was like, damn, I should have just kept my composure because what does she go home? And she really liked I want to do something herself because I said that she was not to because you said that. She said yeah, and I agree with that, but I'm saying, what if you would have went home, we want to do something to yourself, feel bad about

your boy. You just got to have accountability here. That's it was a double statard. They feel like, okay, you in the lights. So you. Yeah, like and you know, they say heavy as the head. So it's like I chose this acal life. So it's like I'm and you know, I'm still trying to grow. So I just was like, damn, I should just you know, but I wish I could be able sometimes just to like really like make people feel like a fucking aunt because it's a lot of

people that need that. Like, it's a lot of harsh people like and hateful people in this world, dead ass like that really needed to be vindictive. And guess what, sometimes that might be a release that might be out like you know what I'm saying. You might walk up and bitch, I just squashed you like a book. You might be nice tomorrow, you know. But I wish I could still just say whatever. But you know, we talked

ship when we like one on one cameras whatever. I wish that I could just more so it makes you feel like you can't know the wive if we all could really say he's in that space in Wyoming alone he was doing before that thought nah, come out like like that, come out like that, Yeah, saying they how

they feel, don't give a fuck. That's kind of like how you start it's but that's how she started it is that's why I see this is actually this is therapeutic for me right now because I'm really I'm picking up I'm soaking up games because I'm like, Okay, y'all right, you know what I'm saying, because it didn't. We love authentic people, though, but don't but don't don't they kind

of hinder you when you're trying to live. As I'm saying, we love authentic, but but but if being authentic maybe it can hurt the people around you or your family, maybe then you have to think about it. I get that, But I can be an authentic and be yourself hurt anybody else. You might say something, you might she might say something to somebody that might make somebody go at her best friend or this or that. It might just trickle because she's always in drama, so she was She's saying,

is her drama spreads to the people around her. But just being rude though I'm gonna always have to check somebody like I don't think I'm ever gonna stop. I'm not like, but I'm That's just an example of how like when I tell you my TikTok like it wasn't no positive comments, like the whole TikTok attacked me, and I kind of like I was like, oh, well, you know, but sometimes I'm like, damn, did I hear below the belt?

But I'll just be wanting to like, like I said, sometimes you gotta just go off, like leave me then. But that's one thing I think, um I got for that. So you feel like it's just like you go off after because it's like I feel it, you go off after they're messing with your, messing messing with you. But it's like, let's say you said something at the beginning, then it's like, well, if you say something at the beginning,

maybe it wouldn't be right exactly speaking knees. They speaking knees because you know, it's certain celebrities to where you know they like you ain't gonna really say too much about them or try them in person becau you know you're gonna get it. You know what I'm saying, Like I think like that person because you know I don't look her, yeah, like just leave her along. Yeah, I mean it comes with the territory. Though we're not getting big what you think about just being because because because

we don't bank it you speak. If you don't be yourself, people can tell you're not doing that too. So you're in a lose lose situation. That's but you you have adjusted, not stop, you have adjusted. But people know through how I'm talking about how I feel howe you know what? That's true. I just don't put a sensor on it a little bit, but you know how I feel. If you know, if you know, you know, and that's the

perfect bound once though, a little sensor. But it's like, you know, because I can't coming to like I don't feel how I feel. Like that's a hypocrite, right, I'm trying to say some ship to y'all, like I feel this way, but y'all knowing, But you know how you change that wonderful mother sucking here, It's impossible. That's you, dog. I feel like when you, when you and in this game, especially being an artist, you do have to be like she said, fit to fit with a representative here And

now you know what I'm saying, because you can't. But with this ship we're doing. Who yeah, true fucking fucking you ain't gotta tune into this ship. We appreciate you if you do that. I don't funk with the people who feel like how I feel. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But then somebody, some people might be funking this ship for how stream feel. Some people might be foking to J feel funk. I look like trying to thank our stream, thank thank thank you're getting a three

piece comebo. It is what it is because Nigga's don't know it don't matter like your core, our core big facts before revote before um black fold and that dumb people. It's who we're talking to. You know what I'm saying. We're doing twenty five thousand a week. You know what I'm saying before J came in with just me and you don't vote. Want that court. That's why we started five Friday. They want that core big fact ship, no sensor right speaking mind, So who are we took the

prid people. Yeah, they really want really wrong because that's what they want. That's real short. That's what the bank who lately by. Yeah, yeah, we go to doing some other ship. Now we're now we're talking like god Nam the view and then when no vote, don't vote up, we try to come back to our people. Brother. Yeah, I just say, man, that's real ship the best way, because you're either gonna like me you want me to.

I don't want you to love me for something I ain't cause I'm gonna get tired of being there exactly for real? Are you gonna fake yourself out? Is it is? It isn't the thought of out of the hundred things you say or ten or whatever, that one time, it's not like you're like, damn, maybe I should have said that.

I don't never say that even if it hurts somebody hurt who I mean, he could be a family member, could be you could just be shipping like man, damn, maybe I should have said that they hurt somebody, if it hurts somebody I care about, I may think like, damn, I shouldn't have said that, But then I'm also going to think like, what then did they say to me to make me want to go that low to say that, yeah,

that's true, that that's true. I feel like and of my friends of feminine note brou if I say some mos like brock you on that to day, because at the end of the day before I said that, I showed you in a million way, it just su ight right right, right, right right right. Having a yeah, like we all go through that. So if you take that like that, that's how you, that's how you really feel about you take me like that to make you wanted to be like that? That makes sense. Always, that made

proper sense. Get you out of my books? Then Yeah, I feel like, especially in relationship, and I understand it is you do have to bring certain representatives out because they can scare the money off. But entertaining that's what people love about you. You know what I'm saying that do you do? You? You gotta recognize, like trying to be a better you sometimes really fuck you up. Sometimes

what's the better you? The better you that another motherfucker telling you to be, don't be the better you for somebody else. That's That's what I'm saying, better you that ain't me? Like, I don't. I tried that vegan ship, bro, I don't like that vegan, right. I can't be no better vegan because vegans is vegan, right. I could just be a vegetarian or something probably, but I don't like vegan. But yeah, that's it. I gotta have some meat. I

don't care. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I can't do this because my wife Vegan now, even though my wife would never be Veger. But I'm just saying, like or screen goddamn Vegan. Man, that's on you, buddy, that's your business. What's making you the better? You might not make me the better me that ship might make me missable facts, right, Huh, you're laughing. But in my life, she even coming to motherfuck try to be goddamn scream or anybody game, Um, Joe Buttons, I'm on the South

from New York. I'm not gonna come to Mother trying to sound and talk articulate my word. I don't know the right we learned words won't be fair for I don't know a lot of this ship. Right. I didn't know I was gonna be here doing this ship right right, right right, So we're gonna feed this ship out as we go. Yeah, funk, I look like coming to trying to act smart like I'm just super smart. Yeah. I don't want to hear that. And I always I always

say though, like excuse me. Everybody in the world is like wearing a mask, like when you meet most people, and it's like, imagine if we all just took that mask off, and it's like I feel like it it would be a better place, like everybody would just be like you know, when you come home, you're just like yeah, like like you know, I feel like it would be better like when you get yeah, I just feel so bad.

Like and you know, I noticed sometimes like when I go on rooms and like let's say it's like a super boogie grouple bitches or whatever females, I feel like I kind of like and I didn't have like a few shots. I'm grooving, you know, I'm being myself, like give me another one and another one. I feel like they like, oh whatever, But deep down, it's like you want to do this too, you know what I'm saying. Do get drunk? Yeah, you want to look exactly and

be yourself and have fun. So I really feel like everything you said, it's like I don't know that put a battery pack in my back, because that's real ship, because you have the most fun, the most really conversations with your bunnets on and whatever in the house with your friends, y'all. Smoking blood don't kill you little y'all. Everything you're trying to hit the blood ship. You can't even gett liked a little crumb right there, you like she putting blood out to earl you want to hold. Yeah,

you don't want your ropes back up? Yeah, you're gonna get a roach and be like and hit it with your nail just like that might burn your nail a little bit. Yeah Yeah, that's real. Ship. That's me at home passing whole with the same talk ya for real. That's so true, true scorching. I'm not finished seeing it like it's not how Yeah nigga be trying sitting him up like you know, man, fix that were hot but not as hot as you because you wore a hoodie. I'm gonna cold nigga again. No, but this hell of

a conversation. What's name of the budget? Um? Er? What I mean? I feel like, um, I was giving everybody I don't know, I feel like they entered into my world, like finally, because a lot of people was like, damn, drop a body of work, Like we're gonna drop something. We need a project, like a full you know, um body of music. So I felt like answer was perfect because you know, when you want a keyboard, you hit, it's like you enter and you know it's like final step.

So um, all of that played a part into why you know, Cardi into I feel like it's like coming finally on the president. Um um, I ain't even gonna lie to you. I don't remember, Like I'm so bad with remembering the producers, Like I know them, but it's so many that you know, and that's not good because they play a huge part and like you know, being an artist. But um, I got yadi um of course the gunna um I did put I like on there to song with me and coy Larrey um and whose

key of course yeah key um bad baby. Yeah, I got a lot of who oh yeah did you? Or so I got some heavy features. Your collaborations come about it to be people like you just bump into some damn ship or how they come about. Yeah, Like I just bump into different people and then like I'll be in the studio like playing my music and then like I want to funk with that song o they but like let's work, you know. I feel like I got a lot of my um features from like really proving myself.

Like a lot of people kind of feel like, damn, I'm sure she got this because you know her affiliation with Thug, But you don't even know, like really, like I said, being the studio playing my music and the like I see their eyes like, oh, she really is hard, like when we get on that or I want to funk with you, you know. Um yeah, the advantage is

in the disadvantage of being like coming up. Um. I think the advantages is like, of course, the relationships in the industry, and then um, I love the fact that like people respect you know, the label like a lot like and I say that as in like music and creatively you know what I'm saying, um, because they like, you know, got great music. So people like damn, you know, thug sucking her music. I know it's you know, she gotta be hard, like you know, it's solidified. And I

think that its advantages would be for sure. Um, I think everybody think like a lot of ship was people kind of feel in it to me, so sometimes they don't even want to listen, you know, I gotta I feel like my walk is a little bit harder because it's like I really got to like put it in their face, like hey listen to this, like yeah exactly, because they feel like, you know, sometimes like oh Yantha as girlfriends um drop some or Carl dropped something like okay, whatever,

she's just doing music and then like when they really listen, they're like, oh, Ship, she really likes an artist, Like they say, no bullshit, So I think that's like a decent advantage um and they feel like, you know, okay, she got a feature with Gonna just because you know, they all under the same label, but they don't know, like I really jumped through hoops and I feel like it's the virgo and me to prove myself and like just not be like, oh can I get this, you know,

like I like to I had to prove myself before I went and got certain features. So so how do you feel How do you feel like when people character as you or address you as thugs ex girlfriend instead of just carl Um. Honestly, like at one point, I'm not gonna lie. I used to like feel away about it, and sometimes I go places and I feel like people

do it kind of like to irritate me. Yeah, like you know, I like notice people be like, oh, yeah, you think eggs ain't you or something like that, or I'd be like, I know for a fact, yeah you know, but I kind of start like embracing it, like because I feel like this is ship. He is a huge artist, like one of the top artists in the game. So you know, you gotta called Spade space. That's how people.

Some people know me, you know what I'm saying. So it's just like it is what it is, and I'd rather them know me from something then to not know me at all, especially what I'm trying to do, which is music. You know, it's very hard. It's very very very Yeah, like you've seen a relationship lie hard because they feel like it's like, damn, that's a good question. I like that. Um yeah, everybody feels like else because

I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think of what I'm saying around because I'm trying to just like that just really hivy like ship. Um it's hard, Like it's hard because they feel like how hard for you to take another nigga sees other tho hard? They got big shoes if you I'm just being real, like it is they got big shoes. And I mean that a lot of aspects like we went through what we went through

we was young, you know what I'm saying. But it's like when it came down to it, like I gotta saying where I say, like my nigga gotta come with batteries. And you know, like when your toy come with batteries, that's like the perfect Like when you were a kid and your toy you opening, he got batteries in it. Perfect. So think about that. You know, my knicks nigga like you gotta come with batteries. Thug came with batteries, like

he get it. You know what I'm saying, Like everything a woman need, like you know what I'm saying, you're going to get you know, your nail's done here, you know, like just help you out or sometimes just like what you wanna do, like you got a business idea you want to do, or you know how you're doing like mentally, stuff like that. Like and that's not to say everything was copastetic in our relationship. Everything was just a walking apart,

you know. But the end of the day, it's kind of like exactly, and I feel like that's very important. And you ain't gotta be rich to to come with batteries, you know what I'm saying. You ain't gotta have the

most money in the world. Sometimes it's just about support. Yeah, yeah, you gotta have something, yeah for me when I'm saying on my level, which already on my level, but you know, for you for the regular people in the world like who And I'm not saying I'm not regular, you know, but at the same time, like you know, people would not unified ship come with better to just get it, like get it, bring your letty home. Some flowers sometimes make him feel good, Like I feel like he was

like that. So um sometimes when I'm around others, like trying to date and stuff, I'd be like, ummm, like

when you're gonna act like what's on my mind? What I'm trying to do, you know, because you don't know I might could, I might could, Like you don't know what I can bring to the table, Like I feel like with Thug, like he if I had an idea, he was investing, not because I was his girl and we was laying down at night, but because he really believed like this little bit like bring me a million dollars, Like you know what I'm saying, she got brilliant ideas.

So I feel like with the Knicks, the Knicks guy, like I want somebody to see me for like my brain, my business sense, not just like oh she looked good and I want to put a bus down on her, like I want somebody to really like jay Z say bounce ideas off at night. So it's hard. Like dating, it is hard because I'm like ship, like how are you coming? You know? And I feel like I'm not just gonna sit on but I definitely know what I want and a guy, And yes, it's very hard for

me to take me serious. I feel like I gotta stain on me like and it's all right, um no, because I feel like we had an iconic love story, you know what I'm saying for the people who know. But at the same time, it's like Nigga's like, shoot, I know you ain't going nowhere, or it's just like people carlate the you know what I'm saying. So it's just like forever name you when you came in the game with somebody, like you're gonna always for be Yeah, yeah,

no matter what. That's what he's saying it too, like you know what I'm saying, um, especially when they're gonna put out there that they can't cared about you, yeah, like that's yes, yeah, I know a lot of people they don't be trying to like even across that bridge, like really like stepping out or something like, not that I want to step out with a niggle, but I can see like I don't know if nigga's like really just like tough enough to you know what I'm saying,

you don't like to do it, like not that I want to step out because I'm still a pete, you know what I'm saying. But dang, I'll be seeing like Okay, so you think we're gonna be a secret. You think I'm gonna be like you know, like and I'm at a point where I'm getting older, It's like I want something real. You know, I ain't trying to just be I'm gonna have fun, but I ain't trying to just be out here kicking it with any everybody. I didn't have my fun. I didn't you know, been outside before thug,

you know whatever. So I feel like I noticed a lot of niggas to be kind of like you know, yeah, like but then you want to but do you really be like obsessed a little bit like crazy about me? But it's just like and I don't know if they don't want to look crazy because they feel like I don't know what she's gonna do with slime but I'm just like I peep it. So I'm like, yeah, I'm not giving you no ass I'm not. I'm definitely not because he ain't even trying to. You're worried about You're

worried about home, like so worried about him. I don't want to go nowhere with these So yeah, So speaking of ideas, um, I know previously you had Carl Swim and you had like, you know, some other things going on. So what's the status right now of Carl Swim and then what else do you have on the table as far as business ventures? Um, so I definitely want to

bring Carl Swim back. Yeah, like, and I actually got like so many because you work, you put so much like working hard effort, and you were there, you helped me. You was j really amazing though, like from when y'all j been your since I was oh kid whatever, Like she literally watched me grow up, like she knows me

very well inside and out. You know. That's why I'm like so happy for you now because it's like you just you really blossomed from back then into like a like a flower for lack of being lame or whatever. But yeah, like but yeah, so you're gonna bring back car late swim and then what else we got going on? And I want to get into acting and it's good and cold. Um, I want to get into acting, and like I said, I want to just like um. Another thing is I'm working on, Like I've been piecing stuff

together for a book. Yeah, like um, like a memoir or like a fiction or yeah. Like I actually was thinking about doing something called like I don't know the name for sure, but I was talking to my mom about it. But it's gonna be called Seeing Me through my Mom's eyes because because of how close you guys are. Yeah, and it's just like how she's seen me, like when I was at kind of like my lowest point, like she always seen me as like here, you know what

I'm saying. Like, and I feel like it's gonna be a book just about like how your parents view you, like through it all like and I'm still finding like an angle for it. But I was telling her that one day, like I was just like, damn, sometime, like I wish always I could see me how you see me? You know you have some that you did where you were like a princess or something. Yeah, get us Cinderella thing.

What was that about? So? Um, I had started like calling myself, get us Cinderella, because I feel like, you know, the Cinerella stories, like she was waiting for a man to come up the you save her or whatever, and I feel like, get us Inderella, like I need to be saved, you know. But I still did. I still had like the princes you didn't you know, the man or whatever. But I didn't need saving, you know. So it was just like that like a little, um, you know,

a little story with a twist. No, I ain't need saving, but I still had the prints when I get big, what's what's like your dream moment in the studio? Like my dream on me? Like I'm in the studio with so and so and so and so and so and so and this is happening. Um, I would say, Oh, I hate saying stuff that I feel like anybody would say, like, but Beyonce, just being real with you is because for one, she's a virgo and I watched her a lot, and

I feel like we have a lot of similarities. Like a lot of people don't believe in astrology and all the ship, but I do. And I see a lot of Yeah, I see a lot of similarities, and I feel like it would just I honestly feel like she would like a lot of the music that I wrote, A lot of stuff I want. You don't want it enough screening for me, but yeah, I think Beyonce UM

and then definitely. And another dream moment is just also to like me being a studio and everybody like on their feet because I just did some ship that was so fun crazy and that's happened like before. But that's always my dream moment when I do go to the studio, Like, I like looking around and my people just like damn like and I usually keep that when I talk a out some real ship like something that's just like I

see being vulnerable. So like in your recording process, do you like to record in the studio with a bunch of people or do you like solitude to kind of help you think better in piece of ship together before you get in front of that crowd. Yeah, solitude for sure.

Like I don't like a lot of do you do candles and candles like I'm real big on like smell too, Like I don't like yeah yeah, like I don't like um yeah yeah, So I gotta have some good candles out, I'd be weird like that, and then I kind of like it to be um just um, I don't like it too missy like whatever, Like I like to be able to think, but I don't like a lot of unknown like energies in the studio, like people who I

don't know. And if I do, I prepare myself like if I'm going to like a writing camp like producers coming in, like I'll get myself together like whatever, because I don't know, Like I just kind of like sticking to my same process and you know, being amongst like the same people. You know, who would you pay to do with a male feature with like, um, they can be raped, R and B anything any kind of genre drake. Um,

Yeah that's yeah, Yeah, that's hard. Are you're a very blunt person, Like when you tell people about theirself, like if they don't smell good, or if they breast stink or if they ship stink, or if they be in a certain way like a yeah, yeah, use the term your ship, don't stay, your ship don't stink because I can't hide like irritation, Like I don't know how to hide if I'm irritated. I could just be on my face, So I just, um, I say it in like a cool way. I ain't gonna be too unless I just

need to. But if you around me and you stink, I feel like you're gonna suck it up for me. No, but nobody don't know. It's never happened. But I have like been on on the road before, and you know what I'm saying, Like, let's say you you you're on the road and like somebody come man, I come backstage and they just hanging out backstage. It's like you're missing it up for me because what if they think I stink?

You gotta know, I can imagine the niggle with you and you there stinking, Like I gotta tell you because you're sucking it up for everybody because they're not gonna yeah yeah, like you gotta be real. So um, for sure, I'm blunt like or sometime like yeah blunt, I can't even sugar coat that, like I'm I'm gonna tell you, or if it's like you're getting on my nerves, I gotta say it because I feel like I want people

to tell me about myself. Like if you're sitting around me and I got a bigger and you don't tell me. And I go to the bathroom and I see it. I'm not gonna like you, Like I think I'm a really hold a grudge because why would you, like what else are you withholding for me to like that's me all day? Like what the fun my breath? Think I

had a little like what I um I have. I'm the only child my mom's side, and I have three siblings on my yes, very um no, I got a younger sister, so I'm actually the oldiest you know your mom like so yeah, that's my road dog right here, Like I don't know, it's like for real, it's not with my sisters. But I know, like you yeah, why you you. I tried a little bit sometow I'm feeling like but I don't want to just I know, want to get I don't want to get the funk on

because she bowed my ass up, you know. But my mama was like my, I don't know, like that's like my everything and like a lot of people don't know a lot of people close with their parents, but for me, um, my mom had went through like a really really um near death experience and I'm not gonna say that brought us closer. But that's something that that will stick with

me forever. And I feel like, you know, like yeah, because I've seen like damn and then I've seen her fight, Like I really seen she had like a twenty chance to live in and when the doctor's like told me that, Um, I can't even explain that feeling like you know what I'm saying, I can't like and she was like in her prim young whatever, I've seen that life can go here to hear you know, overnight, And I feel like that just always like made me just like look at

her like it's different. Yeah, like just different. Um yeah, I almost here. But a lot of people don't know that. So you have a moment on your journey that that that you you might think about a lot that you would like to maybe retrack or take back, like a moment that you might not be proud of. Mm hmm. Sometimes yeah, I would say, um, like responding to a lot of people back in the day, like just going

back and forth arguing and ship. Not because I like I don't like to see myself arguing or being like combative, but more so like I just feel like they didn't deserve my energy. And then I feel like bars day into like a long time ago, like I entertained a lot of niggas who didn't deserve my time, and I

just like, like, you know what I'm saying. I feel like that's a lot of women though, but um yeah, all women like which it was just another notch up on in my build to make me know like what I want now, but um yeah, I just wish I adn't give like a lot of people the time of

that time of day. And then one time I did say something that was real crazy, but certain ship like that come in time said a million all the time, and it's not because like it's like okay, it gets hard, but sometimes like I get bored with stuff like I really do you know what I'm saying. I guess I don't know. Like I'm a person that's like I like to just be busy and just try so many different things, but I just sometimes be like, m I still want

to do this. I might want to be actress, like you know what I'm saying, So I just like whatever, I'm gonna switch to something else. But then it just like pulled me back because I really do love it. And then sometimes like I just say fucking because I feel like it's a journey, like it takes it's you know, so work in progress. Like I get frustrated sometimes, like damn, because I know I'm hard. I know I'm hard. Like I know a lot of people think that about whatever

it is that they do. But I'm real. If I make a Layman song, I'd be like, m that was me, but um no, I'm signed a three hell but yeah, Like i know I'm hard. So sometimes I'm just like damn, Like I'm ready to hear Carli like that hit on the radio all day and d yeah you never know when yeah, you know. So it was just like really finding the patience to get to that moment. But I always like fuck it. You know, um, who's the person that gets you out of this is like a certain

family member home girl. They'd be like, nah, you ain't gonna get this ship up? Mm hmm. I would say, like probably I gotta aunt. That's like my number one literally, like my number one than genuine will lead to her soul like everybody around me like that. But my Antimika, like Mika literally like she like fuck that ship. Carly, you that bitch, Yeah you that bitch. That's my niece play that ship like she would be like and did

your hardest song? Like she just always make Yeah, she really like Smika like always let me know, like like, bro, you really the sheep, Like I'll be down. She would be like like like what so I say her for sure and then like just everybody around me, like I'm around some solid as people who always just like remind me and then I say slim to like thug like he would tell me like he was like your only thing, Like I didn't understand when he told me this, but he was like, all you gotta do is just keep

going to the studio and make music. And I'd be like, niggas that the advice you got, Like, but then I started noticing like damn, I'm getting better and better, and he was like it's gonna hit one day. You know what I'm saying. He was like, this is normal, Like I went through this, like I signed a fund up deal at one point and look at me now, you know what I'm saying, Like he was like, I know that feeling how you feel like like you just want

to stop because you didn't get nowhere. So knowing like that he went through the same thing, and he is where he had now. Um, I feel like that keeps me going to but yeah, like the people around me, you know, damn sure, not people. Um I told you, Like females don't get like a lot of support from you know, other females in the game. So I would say, my people keep me going. If what you think your familyase, if you had to cauntercorporizer, like put it one fan

base with what you say your family. Well, so what's the main demographic of your fan base? Um, I honestly think unapologetic females. I'm learning that, like they like you when I get on Twitter and I say any fucking thing, Like I started noticing like a lot of the girls that support me are females. It's like that that lived through me, like being like Bucky, I would say, it's just care free. Um I can't say younger or you know, older, because I feel like it's both, but just care free

like females. And of course the the g BT Yeah yeah, community community. Yeah, I would say, um, definitely them as well. But the girls and the girls exactly, the queens and stuff. But you know, like Fucky, that's that's them. Like my family, like the grew for real. Um, they definitely support me. Have you ever done reality TV? I thought about it, but would you well you said you thought about it. Yeah, I haven't know, we'll stop m hm. The fact that I didn't died like people like they kind of do

whatever with the script. I don't like that. I don't like that. I like to be in control and I like having my hands and everything, and I like to know what I'm signing up for. So you yeah, you know what I'm saying. Or it was just like I was doing a show with people that was I could trust, and I built like a report week because sometimes you say stuff and they just take it out of context, like don't make me like no messy as be and really I'm checking somebody on something that's you know they

needed to be. Yeah, like so, um, I think that's what really stopped me. I was like, oh, I seemed like I didn't have any control. It felt like invasive. Yeah, like over the narrative. I don't want nobody to make me look a certain way. That's real. To tell us a little bit about the mix tape. Now we've were robbed,

Now we can talk all about listen. Um, Yeah, so enter is sixteen songs, um, and I put a lot into it, like and I feel like it's just super diverse, like a transition throughout the whole project of like some shi it is just like if you're in like a down mood. Some of it is coming from like I'm popping my ship, you know what I'm saying. The first song on there, I come in just like I feel like I'm swinging at everybody, like I'm really proving myself

and I'm leaving like my print, you know. And then um, I got a song called someone Like You on their and Yadi Copra Doo stick um and basically like he was in the studio, he helped me like from he like helped me form me a little yeah yeah, and like it's special to me because I feel like I'm speaking from my like soul and it just makes you feel away. It makes you feel so mellow, you can smoke some weed, just relax, you know what I'm saying. Um, And then I got songs on there where you know

what I'm saying. I got strip club songs like me and Keith got this song called Gotta Get Touched and we made it right before he passed away. So that was like a big thing to me because it was supposed to well, it's still gonna be on his album, but um it's hard, like and like when I was actually recording it, I gave up. I was like, I want to do this ship. I don't know if I sound right. My friend was like, hell, now it's gonna be a hit. So that's like one of my faves

because it ends up coming out hard as funk. So um, yeah, I feel like my project is just super diverse, Like you got a lot of different vibes on there. And I feel like today, like a lot of people make if they drop music, it's like okay, it's one huge A lot of people like it's like okay either super wrap It's really not like a mix anymore. And I feel like I gave you every pop of like R and B. I feel like I touched on everything to show people like, you know, I got it all cover into.

I want to see what people like more, you know, I want to see what more people gravitate towards. So I can, you know, like know what to work on for. Yeah, what you're doing. The tricky is to get like me and to listen to women mute what do you think. What you're thinking is, let's god people, somebody putt that up like you ride to a little lorilla. Yeah, I think it just comes down spirit is beautiful and I

love her tone. On her tone, I feel like she come in like attentions, how she speaks, like she ain't trying to be all you know, um put my pennies, like she being herself like she you And I like that, like it makes you like somebody said, um, we can she got workout music like you know you and you know you and they're like, and that's a big you know what I'm saying, should keep you going. So I

feel like it's like your approach with with men. That's what I noticed, because sometimes I feel like y'all don't be wanting to hear all of that, Like yeah, y'all don't be wanting to hear that, like a lot of men like they always be like and it would be a song like like I said, the song the song like someone like you, and I'd be shocked, like damn, they ain't care really about the sixties shoot or just like my they don't care about that. Maybe want to

hear some real ship that they can ride to. And be in a car like damn, like squint their eyes like that ship real. Yeah. So that's when I think about when I'm in the studio, like and a lot of people got it suck up from me and like they think you'd like to break a female. You gotta like, you know, sixty whatever. It ain't like that no more. I think I think the key to getting me in to listen to your music and you gotta take put the R and B into wrap whatever the female was

doing in R and B back in the day. However that made you feel because the nick and listen to it. Yeah, you gotta rep and you go with me, and it's just right. They're gonna have to beat some ship to what they would be like I want my bitch to feel like yeah, yeah, no, and that's real because that's something that's another thing though told me he said the same thing. He was like, Nick, I don't want to hear all that like like about your pussy all the time.

He was like talking about real ship like you know everybody can relate to. He said the same thing. At first, I was like he just don't you know, Like I'm like, like, don't try to have me not talking about yeah, and then I'm like, yeah, he right, because like I said, like a lot of like males was working with the songs where like they said the real ship, but it's you know, yeah, So yeah, what's the final words you want to say to the carl A supporters out then

and the big facts fans and supporters. Man, I appreciate everybody and more so, um I would say, like my supporters like keep going and yeah, just keep going, never give up. I know it sounds cliche, but it's true. You know what I'm saying, And just know, like I really appreciate the support because this has been like a long journey for me. It really has like doing music

and I take my craft series. So I just appreciate everybody who with my movement, even with me being here now you know what I'm saying, and we're making it about something that's bigger than anything Massy Like this was genuinely a good conversation and good topics, So I appreciate you. To anything coming up, Um, I'm doing a college tour um brought to everybody by d T from DTLR, So

that's gonna be crazy. And this is like my first time like doing whoa, I'm back doing shows since um kind of like the Whore I did with Kei, I feel like like a full run so yeah, I'm that I'm ready to hit the stage like and get that rush. So stay tuned. I'm gonna be posting dates soon. Yeah there is appreciate you feeling up the check out a new mixtape and make sure you'll check this out to Triple W dot Big facts pot dot Com Salute its bitch,