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What's up?

What?

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Well, I let you go in the further. I can't be that man or that man is so for fifty million records. Man, Okay, that's Jane Worthy. Man, I'm sorry. I just had to tell you before you get too funky.

It's all good. He brought family. He brought family before we get into our conversation.

We got we got to have a conversation about all this what's going on in front of you? Man, Bank Bank just consumes some of uh what are these gifts products?

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Yeah, So taught to us a little bit about like you've been on a campaign. You've been very vocal of late. You know what I'm saying, You've been saying what's on your mind?

Uh?

What what sparked that?

Like what sparked you to come out and just say, Man, I'm gonna start having these conversations and just and just saying what's.

On my mind.

Well, first of all, I wouldn't have spoken unless I had something to gear back to the game, and that was music. The reason why I spoke because I'm seeing that the game is being the history is being rewritten, and a lot of the people that in the South that really helped us and helped us find our way of really being out of the history. You know, for example, the Grammars, you didn't see Luke Skywalker. You didn't you

You know.

I set through Parental Advisory Album and I set through outcas albums until it's time for me to be called. I sat in the park a lot, and I'm just like a lot of times when I look at what's going on right now, I got a problem with the industry because, first of all, you got an industry that's really like raping I young.

Now, why would I say that the.

Three sixty deal was created only because they did not want us to continue to gain power as artists. They didn't want any more of these artists to become as big as certain artists are right now. So what they did, the executives did, they went it into a room and they created this three sixty deal. Now, what's so funny about this is that when I first started signing contracts, we was paid one way, and now this three sixty deal,

Ago, right, Like you should be grandfathered in to the standard.

Right right, But that's not the case.

So so I have to come out here and say, hey, man, check this out. How do you create something like a three sixty deal? And then and then on the other end, you create a lane for AI artists. So how were you going to three sixty me? But then you creating artists and putting them in our face, like we're supposed to get enthused about robots.

What's it the robots?

Like you know how they had the tipoc sonograms and ship they're making rap niggas out of them.

Now they make albums.

Oh god, fame computer rappers.

Yes, nobody. Ain't nobody in it.

It's not hard a sonogram, it's around, I mean a hologram.

Yeah, but that's that's the reason why.

So ain't nobody controlling them? They rapping on their own.

They So what they're doing is they handlers. They have people who go in and they have computer voices that sound like your favorite rappers, and they can create songs now sounding like your favorite rapper without the real take.

Six different niggas, like they might take little Baby, fucking Tupac, fucking Snoop Dogg and god Damn Juicy J and make one voice computerized voice.

And this is.

So this so what they're gonna do with what So that's.

Stand a chance?

So so bad, so bad.

So So that's again that's why a person like me got to speak because it's like it's almost like, you know, I love I love our people. But at the same time too, an executive shouldn't be able to tell me when it's time for me to go when I probably was here before you even knew how to do this. So so that's my problem with what they do in the hip hop right now. They trying to make all our stars kids. When I first started listening to hip hop, man, it was grown people doing hip hop. They changed it

You know what I mean? Facts that it's so.

And you don't know what comes with this ship because you ain't grind. You ain't just you're famous.

You know what I'm saying. You famous and nigga, you got the money.

Now you got uh go through everything without going through nothing.

You know what I'm saying. He ain't been through ship, but.

Now you finla got down be out here and know what to do how to manage this money.

That's impossible.

And I felt like if I didn't say nothing, See, I don't really care about being friends with people because people know me. I ain't never been to the Faulk part of no way. I ain't never been under these folks. I ain't never stroke no ball, hold no scroll them pump.

It's gonna keep me safe because.

Back last yeah it was back's because how can you have the Grammars and not put the man that made it where you put a parental advisory stick on your on your record like that's a part of cultural history. And at the same time that man went to jail for hip hop. If he didn't go to jail for hip hop, it wouldn't have been half the stuff that we listened to now, it wouldn't have never been.

So when when.

I see that, I just have to speak on it and again to all the artists. Man, I have no problem with no artists out here. I don't really. I've never really cared about what other artists do or how they do it. I just was only here to represent how Atlanta do it. Facts you know what I mean, And it's no I have no I have no complaints.

Gonna do Atlanta.

You know, when you look at a little baby, I was so proud of him when he did that black and White song, like it just showed his diversity.

R you know, being when people didn't think he had it.

So just to watch all the artists, man, watch what Tip done and watch what ludicrous be done. You know, like I've watched what Jezy did, you know, like to live through that and what he did in Atlanta and the club situation was phenomenal. It's like what Alex ag did for our club scene here phenomenal, you know what I mean. So that's the reason why I can really say that, hey man, like you're gonna speak and I'm gonna say the unpopular shit because I don't have to.

You know what I mean?

So I I don't I all I can say is, hey man, when I spoke. Before I spoke, I was in the studio with that man on just to my left, chains Worthy, and we went in the studio and I I did five songs that we just put out. It's only been out of mont and we already and did six million downloads. So for me personally, as an artist that come from a whole nother galaxy, I'm reborn again through music and I ain't tripping cause Goodiemorrow book to twenty twenty four. So don't never think I ain't moving

I'm just here for music.

And at the end of the day, the crown jewel for me, at the end of the day is always gonna be seeing future, future, toward the world and do arenas every night bro to watch him be like come from the dungeon and watch him turn me head into future and become.

A whole another artist.

Like it's been incredible for us as an as a collective.

And I tell people all the time, Bro, all of us are still alive.

Because of the music that we created, and everybody can't say that.

So let me ask you.

This, because you were just speaking on like being a part of the movement to make sure that Atlanta was respected. Let's talk a little bit about you and you being from Atlanta and talk about what side of town you're from and kind of go into that.

I'm from East Point. Yeah, I went to Woodland City. I went to Woodland High School. I went to Russell High School. I'm from the Old Point, you know what I mean. I went to school with Kamala you know what I mean. I went I went to school with the straight cats, you.

Know what I mean. Like it was like it was a whole nother world.

Then Atlanta was different because Atlanta was really like it was the hustables and it was ghetto at the same time because dudes that came from good households and knock your head off, your life fork from the project. So Atlanta always been like that. Well, it don't matter where you're from, how you get it off, you know.

What I mean. So me just coming up.

I came from my first I come from ben Hill County Line, moved to East Point. I met this lady named Jeane Kahn. She went to Washington High School. She was a pop star, a soul singer from Washington High School.

She was the first one that taught me about music.

Her nephew was People of Rising, so I used to go with her to her shows as Sensations on the East Side and at her house. Is the first place that I met Stevie Wonder, I met New Dish. I met a lot of artists that were considered soul and and kind of r and be ish, so I didn't come into the music business under the monica of rap.

You know.

The first place I remember, the first concert she took me to was to the Ford and County Stadium.

That was the first time I met Jackson five as a kid.

So music to me has always been something that you're supposed to change the world when you speak, and you're supposed to have something to say when you when you do it. And I just think that it was in it was instilled in me. I went to Paul D. West, I went to Darston Drive. East Point was really like my stomping ground head and drive the low up the street is where tea bars come from. She stayed on helling to the low at the top of that and the projects up there.

That's where Rico come from.

So uh as a community, we always was kind of close knit. And then the first person that I met in the music business that was our age that was kind of like the four runner of the leader of us was Ian Burke.

Ian Burke I got.

Ian Burke used to have an apartment on Cameray Road, and that was the first time. Reich took me over to Ian Burke house me and and we really got we really got kind of kicked it. We we kind of connected. And the next thing I know, En took me to j D House when he was at his first house on flat shows, you know. So that was when he was putting Chrisscross together. So it was like a time where as we was doing that and then I was doing I was in a group called six

Which consisted the Cool Breeze.

O Z cap One cap One that's south Side Daddy from East Point, the producer, and then it another guy named Chief. So you know, it was like five of us, you know what I mean. It was crazy cause it was like e Point Chain Gang man all alto talkings.

You know, like we wore jail suits on the stage.

Man.

No, the Lumberjacks was Kujo and Timo. Yeah, yeah, like you know what I mean. So it was like the first time we did the show was that Mars Brown opening up for Cypress Hill.

We did that and that's.

The first time I saw Joe then perform the Lumberjacks and yeah, we uh. That was kind of the first time that we just started understanding who we were at that time. And that's when Rico moved from East Point to Lakewood and got the first Dungeon where at that time I went over to Kujo and met him over in on the West Side at Peyton Park.

I mean, Kujo was sitting there rapping and it was the little dude there.

Bruder stepped back rapping against Kujo and started singing, it was Selo.

I ran back to the dungeon.

I said, hey, man, I just seen this dude on the west side singing bro like I ain't never seen nothing like that.

They said, you bring him to the dungeon.

Well, when we brought him to the dungeon, that's when I found out this shot him. He already knew three thousand because he was in alternative school with three thousand, and then he knew Big Boy from being with three thousand. So it was like them three had like kind of reunion, and all of us was kind of like they are that they are little brothers like Big ce Lo and three. They the same age, and then all of us is like three years older than them, so they and then

So I knew care from the streets.

So to me, like the Hard Boys was the equivalent of what BMTH was way before they even got here, because they were the first one to throw the you know, the bill Boys up and you know, you know, the more of it out of the East Side of that time. You know, they was lamborghinean back then, wasn't you know, the big money over there. So so it was like I had seen all that already, you know, so just to see that.

We went from that to knowing that we had to really.

Make sure that people respected us was our main thing because you know, that.

Source of wars.

It really changed us and it really made us come back home and say, man, we got to make sure that every time we open our mouth, were trying to change what people's perception of the South was.

And that's the reason why, you know, people looked at the South.

During that time like, man, all y'all do is strip club music, shake a boot the music. And we just was like, we can't. We can't use our opportunity not to change people perception. So that's the reason why we always said we did Southern hip hop.

Do you think like, oh so so when y'all came into the game, obviously you want to make some money, you know what I'm saying. But from the way you speaking, it scenes like a lot of it was cultural. We want to be dope, we want to make a difference, We want to put the South.

On the man.

There wasn't no money in it then, it want't no money okay, got you.

We signed for twenty thousand dollars of the face I burnt my shit up the greenbroth.

To piece twenty thousand apiece.

Well that was five thousand and good and maorro our Caad got ten. We got five, but we burnt that shit. I bet I went to edit goal put a paint job on the leg.

Shit. It was a with.

It was over.

It was like, shit, let's start over there, get back out here.

That's why it was always a problem for me to do uh kind of like per diemn free shows like radio shows. That was the difference between our cares and Good Tomorrow because our care went out there and they were like, man, after the first year, they were like ship man, we out here are we.

Getting this per diem?

We in big ass arenas and ship But I was like ship, they's good, y'all still too, But you know, per diem for four folks that ain't gonna.

That it ain't going was we knew.

We knew off top, like we ain't gonna survive like this shout and then we ain't got boy.

Per dimn probably.

About by Fuffedy a fifty dollar ball that ain't nothing to yeah, something that ain't nothing.

Is that we knew we couldn't survive like that.

So that's the reason why we just kind of like Goodie Mall was always le Fay was scared of Goodiemll Man like.

Like we were.

We were terrors back then, bro, Like we were just like we just first of all, we were older. Second of all, they knew that we weren't going for a lot of the new kind of shit going on with new artists because we were kind of older. We were kind of like, man, we don't want no for them. We ain't doing no free show. We ain't doing none of that. So they kind of like off top. Goodie Mall was kind of like we was rebels, bro Like we we had whole photo shoots go missing. La Be like, hell, no,

You know.

It used to trip people out when I used to tell people all the time, like, bro, I never went to school with nobody.

With black people. That sounds strange that everybody else in the other cities. That sounds strange. They'd be like, huh.

I was like, Bro, I only seen one white person on the South Side as a child, and then it was all black people, you know what I mean. So for me personally, a lot of the things that I was seeing when I was getting around other groups from New York and LA, they were kind of like infused with other people's coaches that I wasn't really you know, understanding, Like I didn't understand why you had to respect this person because he was had a certain type of last name.

You know, you held him in a certain regard. And you know, they said else when I got.

Which artists you think had the biggest impact to come out of the land period, Like when they came, ain't one of the questions, Yeah, which artists do y'all think you think the biggest.

Impact like of all time?

Hm hmm. That's hard. That's hard to say, simply simply because.

When you look at Whoop dadd Is, that ship was that ship turned into a phenomenal.

Reference like.

Like like we do we do music like it's like our cast is one of them. Jez is one of them, Tip is one of them. Little baby.

It's hard to beat that Jesus. But that Jesus, Hell Boy, that Jesus was a big That was that Jesus with Hell. That's Jesuy with Hell.

Somebody conversation what I want to say the conversation everybody had they I understand where you're coming from. When chopped it about it, everybody had their moment though niggas had they moment.

No, I'm not saying, I'm just saying, like this ship shift completely and niggas still doing it. Shifted time though.

Yeah, we just talked about this on the Guys Show. The Atlanta commissions s were just there with right Daniels like it had.

Shifted shifted a few times. Brou who had he said gilt.

He's saying, like, when you talk about that ship in l A on the West Coast, you say pop and it ain't nothing to talk about, you know.

I had the biggest because our cares, because it ain't nobody can throw a concert in the Olympic Park and three days and sell it out.

And people come from all over the world. Can't nobody do that?

Can know, can't nobody go for the day he's in forty nights and go all the way around the world for a million dollars a night. Can't nobody do that unless you got the actual god damn catalog.

If we take.

We take a due I'm saying, I'm saying, when you in Budapest, yeah, we in Budapest, soul out.

If we take the duo and group part out of it, I ain't telling about impact. Who was the person? Ain't somebout count of impact right now?

He talking about That's that's just a bigger artist to me, I'm saying, like, when you've seen.

This ship, are you talking about Snowman T shirt?

Impact?

Yeah?

And that Pluto ship?

Yeah that that that Yeah, Yeah, it's.

Different, bro, like that.

Jesus, every car, every bitch, young bitch, old bitch, every nigga, young bitch, old nigga, everybody.

Around our way.

Yeah, Jesus yeah, jez the future little baby exactly, jes the future, little baby.

I mean even but we gotta pick one though. But when you but but when you when you're having a.

Commiss hard, it's hard. It's hard because man, how many people beat that Jeezu run? Yeah, but I feel like that was respect and even Gucci run is just when you look at Guccia run at that for sure to come to come back at the end and do what he did, It's like nobody didn't drop more records than Gucci and put more artists on and put more artists on the Gucci.

You know, number one.

You know I'm coming from now, I'm doing the hot like but it's he impacted different but.

For Nick, but the half not.

But I'm gonna give him that, Like Ni, you never thought they could be something I could.

Beat something I seen. Wait, I can do it that weight too. I ain't like this, my man like get inspired by Gucci. I'm not gonna say that.

But what I'm saying is I would say future, thank you. I would say I ain't saying it because I'm a man in my pot, just saying I would say fu sture become If you think, if you just think from that one little Tony Montana, the one little verse to now we in arenas like I never thought, you know what I mean, Like he was hot as hell when he was just him and rock.

O thanks, you know what I mean, Like he was hot.

As ship, ain't dying down, and yeah, staying hot.

Yeah, I've never seen it.

Like he had the longest run consecuted consecutively, like he the only one can stand next to Drake.

Yeah, but I still can I have can I have something to say?

So I feel like.

Since I feel like speaking on like the whole impact part or whatever, I totally agree with everything everybody's saying about everybody else. But I think another person that we have got to definitely include on top of the conversation as far as impact is Tip because at the end of the day, at the end of the day, like nobody has it on business when it comes to this top.

I feel like this for niggas in the street, he did that deal we're doing were trapping too now.

He said that like set the tone for.

What the city we're standing on this trap ship and everything else too in this city too.

Can't take that from no, no, no.

But what I'm saying, I'm not even talking about the trap ship. I'm talking about just about what's right, like whether it's going up against fucking little Flip or whether it's going up against fucking Houston's are going up against Crosston White are going up against.

That's another conversation, but that there's the city and then there's the music game. That's what I think we got to like, impact on the music game or the city is a nigga. I'm not taking that My problems.

Ask some of my opinion in pact. When you keep impacting, you keep changing the niggas doing, when nigga won't buy any.

Whole that first, talking about the impact on what the culture or the city, the culture, Oh gosh, you spend one trying to be fly like they've been trying to extra be flying there, spend their money to do.

All this ship.

They wasn't doing that.

So you're saying these had the biggest impact on the city. You're saying these had the biggest I mean on the culture. You saying these tips had the biggest impact on the city.

That's what I mean.

I'm not saying on the city. I'm saying for the city, for the city.

Yeah, but that's a I feel like that's a different that's that's something different that that's not impaid.

We gotta find something else. He can't.

We'll give that impact when niggas trying to immolate what you do over a long paper had their side in a moment, in a moment, You're right, yeah, But in a moment then, ain't nobody wasn't the hair like that?

Now these nigga hell goal because this man hell go.

Now, I'm just saying, like the now ship and last year where it was wais hat sh before that what they were doing, they were doing some other ship buying cars. You for that, we buying a bit of red bottle.

You definitely changed to sound forever.

No, I'm not even the sound. How these bitches think they think different. You gotta be doing this ship this once out. That's that's ill classic.

Ampping.

I agree with him.

Yeah, like you said the stone, you said.

The stomach said, okay, all the other ship cool, We'll get money and we popping fly ships and that's what that's what the temperature of.

The world changed to them now.

Yeah, because I wasn't gonna never do it. You know, I'm about buying nothing do We don't buy nothing. We don't buy no jewely, no cars, no nothing. I'm just from another hero man.

I'm just sorry. I mean, I love the.

Young the young cats and hire everybody do it. But I just think that, See, that's the problem with the youngsters man. A lot of folks getting the whole bunch of stuff that they don't deserve facts, and that's the reason why these folks you can't talk to them, can't listen to them. And if they judge you buy that, then are you really getting to know these people? Are you just getting to know they pickage?

Oh you know that.

But these niggas, niggas is sitting the tongs brou We don't care about that. What's come after this? We're doing this for this. I don't know. I ain't saying it right or wrong, just saying like, that's right.

How niggas think is the impact is what I'm saying, Like the impact means the niggas trying to damn there.

Be this too, And this is how the the shit is shifting to this Tupac type shit.

Like niggas went to trying to get money and ship when Jesus came out, we getting money. When Gucci came out, niggas got damn tricky air Robby or whatever that was part of. But niggas going to the Knicks, going to the Knicks like they following it what Bible.

So let me ask you this.

So with you saying basically like the way everything is going in the way everybody's doing, like you're cool with it and you respect it, but you're not going do you think that that's what kind of influenced your Mutant Mind Frame album.

Because you think I was?

I was, Yeah, I was just I was forced in doing that. Like I was.

I never really wanted to be no solo artists. I never you know, Yeah, they always wanted me to be they always. I mean, that's why we're glad when ludcros came because I was like, hey, man, do you do me?

You do it? You know what I mean?

Because at the end of the day, I mean, I just always been about team. I always been in groups my whole career. Yeah, so I just been about always trying to push others to be great, right, you know what I mean?

So me, I was fine with being in good at MOB.

I was fine with knowing that ain't nobody touching Shot, It ain't nobody touching Cooler, ain't nobody touching Timo. So with me being a just growing up like that, My father was military, So me, I've always just been about taking care of the neighborhood.

All everybody used to be at my house, you know.

So that's just the way I always be it I'd rather be I ratherly push another person to be great than me, because I know it take a lot.

It takes.

It takes a lot to be a solo artist, and a lot of times I just didn't have that natural arrogance that it takes. My arrogance comes from just knowing you ain't better than me. I'm an eat you, you know what I mean. But as far as just going out here saying, you know, I'm the greatest, I'm I just never was on my own det like that. I just felt like I'm gonna do things that I know you not gonna be. It's gonna be hard for you to repeat it. So if you think about it, they

Who was it What was it you or d three thousand that brought that outlandish dressing to the crew first? Because a lot of people will say he might have got it was inspired by you from the outlanders.

It was for me, it was you for sure. Yeah.

And the reason why we did it, I mean we had.

We had a show with uh with bad Boy up in Nashville, and that was the first time I did it. And I remember everybody like, damn, get while you dressed like that? And I said, man, if they don't, if they don't remember nothing else, if they can't understand our dialect, they gonna remember what.

The fuck we looked like.

And I just I just I just always felt like that was a way for me to really really be able to distinguish myself, you know what I mean. And I just remember when three thousand just start saying give it where you're getting that shit from? I was like, man, I go to the fabric store because it was one day we was with George Clinton and Jeorge Clint.

We was like.

We were talking about something. We were like, We're about to go to Green Brine and get some stuff for a show, and he was like green Brine. He was like, man, how you a start if the folks in the audience got on the same clothes you got And it stuck with me, you know what I mean?

And people don't have to realize that.

The first show I ever seen a live performance was Prince and Cooling the Gang get six Flags. So with that being the first time I ever seen two live performances, that was kind of like my whole shit because I was like, Okay, Prince wildly hell, but then Cooling the game they cool So I always figured out that you could beat both of them stage, but it always takes You have to be a little bit different when you talking about being remembered in which I was just talking

You know, Like right now, it's just like the game to me is just so controlled that.

I'm like, you probably don't even get to see the real artists out here right now, because everybody's mind frame is how can I hook up the new artists? Put him in the whole little money game, and she'll make a couple of million off of him, and shit, he ain't gonna last five years, so why should I care? But that's not the mind frame that I come from, because I don't do music for the quick money. So I'm not gonna be out here rapping on everything.

What about what about a street artist? Though? For them, if the music is a way of like survival, It's like, I'm getting that. This shit shit doesn't change that. The robots all kind of shit, I do.

I understand that, But I understand this too.

A person that's twenty five or twenty three years old, it's not gonna know the value.

Of only his face and his and his voice until you don't have it.

See, if you go and sign a three sixty deal, they give you a couple of million up front, they already knowing you're gonna fuck that money up. They already know you're gonna fuck it up. You're young, so if you go in, you give them a good high hit. You gotta remember this too, Bro, They ain't giving you no money. They are never giving you any money. It they ain't already made. See if they.

Nigga, I'm I'm gonna say this, though, give a nigga come from nothing, don't give a fuck what them folks make. If y'all finna give me this, I'm out to ghetto now. I'm telling niggas who come from that, Niggas who rapping now, like these niggas who rapping now and the niga got no job.

These ain't got ship but a gun.

And I'm with that.

You know what I'm saying.

I'm just saying, like, so these niggas don't give a fuck what kind of deal it is. You could say I owe you if I go work at McDonald you get something in this country. Niggas don't give Some of these niggas don't give a fuck cause niggas be so fucked. Look, it's the same. It's the same mindset's back in the day. If y'all signing for a twenty on, y'all gotta split it.

It's the same mindset. So nigga don't give a fuck what's in that contract?

And on what your bank. But you're talking to Gilp right now.

I know you know nothing out I did my first album and courgaes may feel house, courges may feel told Gip come to your bedroom.

M hm, he said, get bed.

He said, all them, all them them, the original tracks from from Superfly.

He said, give it. He said.

One thing that I can tell you, never sell your publishing until you ready to retire. I've been in the game for almost twenty five years. I ain't never did a publishing deal. I own everything I ever did now, I ain't tripping off. I do understand the thing about coming from something nothing from nothing and saying that, hey man, I could take the spy and I can do something with it.

You're right.

But all I'm just saying is I just need more executives and more people that's old enough to at least sit these artists down and explain it in what they're doing. Because if we're not gonna explain it in what they doing, then guess what we ain't doing nothing but taking all I young and dropping them off to the other folk that ain't gonna do nothing but sell them at the

I'm gonna take you over here. We're gonna get you a goddamn win start with this.

We're gonna get your goddamn some over here with this at least something that's gonna make money for you for the rest of your life if nothing else work. But if you don't do that, at least being an og, then we ain't doing nothing but giving our kids away to be owned by other people.

That's it.

That's fast, that's real.

Well, you think about situations well, because we have people sit here right on this platform and say, well, maybe somebody I signed to in the streets, so maybe somebody I trusted it I thought it was family, didn't do me right by some paperwork and shit like that. Some people in their mind, and I'm not saying it's right, but some people in their mind is thinking like maybe somebody that don't look like me will do better business.

I would say this, it's too many real leaders in Atlanta, from Bank, from Ian Burke, from JD to Tip. It's a lot of us that you could kind of walk up on and ask us what's going on. It's one thing I can say about Atlanta, man, We ain't too much with the fame shit.

It's like we stand on solid ground.

All of niggas feel like they know already do like you can't, Like I'm just let me say that, you can't tell me.

If I'm in a situation how to handle it.

And he's saying, it's some dope right here, because some niggas ain't motivated by the musics, motivated by it's a hustle, now, you know what I'm saying, Like, I get what you're saying. Like if niggas looking for their art, niggas feel like this ain't even really my art. I'm just trying to get me like a jug Like I said, some more ship jugging it fanessing came and that's up. Like like niggas looking at everything as a jug, I don't give

You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, and what.

And what about your g that man putting life on the line for you to be able to get that kind of shit.

Yeah, like.

Everything good, But I'm just like bro, everything in a hustle.

No, look this member thug member Thorp said. He said in one of the interview I'll never forget, he said, by tilling the bullshit that this because I knew what I was. I just so fucked up. I don't give fuck what get it to me. Come on, get y'all can put me in front the people. I know what I'm going to beat. Even do young nigga think like I don't give fuck what it is.

I need to shot and you get in. I'm just telling you and bang you right, because I ain't gonna tell you no lie.

First time I seen Thug, first time I seen the he came to see Future at the studio. We was at Doppler, And first time I seen Thug, I knew he was gonna be a star.

I knew.

I can't tell you what he walked in there with with. You know, he came in there looking like through and he instantly grabbed me like he gonna be a star man. And the next time I seen him, that that crucial performance when he performed Stoner for the first time.

That's when I was like, God damn man.

That niggas in the bad deal though, after rip fuck what it is, because I know what I'm gonna do. Some niggas know they're gonna outwork this liberal ass ship like I know I'm gonna be way worth whatever, fix.

This and see that's that's him. That's him, and that's exactly what he did. And I really really applaud that. I'm just saying that. Like the other day, when Ray Dames put that commission together, I said, man, listen, bro it needs to be a commission also the turns that has that has the ability to go at these record companies and change some of these things that going on with our kids. We can't be executives for these people

So my mindset though, you know, but.

The mindset gotta be we we as OG's got to put this ship out here, because if we don't put it out here and we just leave it on that it's never a conversation with the young like damn, oh thought, I ain't even think about it like that, shorty, you run straight to the Jieve store.

I remember when ice Box was in the middle of the marrow. Never d.

I swear to God probly boy, they was the middle of them all. My short sea load of one crumped them up. So all y'all, hey sea loaded the first one around here with all that bad ship man. Oh that sea looad one crumped them up. So to see where they at right now, Let's just make sure that when we're giving that kind of another community all our money, we are we understanding where are we keeping some of

Short, you know what I mean.

So it's a it's about us be in educating them past the street shit. Yeah, you know what I mean, because if we don't, then we are also gonna be held accountable for when they fall, right, you know, That's all.

You know what I mean?

Because bro, our cast were young too, they were eighteen nineteen, they being rich, they being eighteen nineteen years old, so you know for them to be in lived this long and never have money problems because they at the same time, some of the ogs sat down and told them, hey man, it's bigger than just having money. You gotta understand what to do with it, because hey man, Mike Tyson lost four hundred million, so what's the little money we getting exactly?

You know what I mean. That's all I'm saying. That's all you know.

That's the reason why I feel like right now, just to be able to come back and the money go.

Me and James.

We dropped this album and just getting the response for bro, like we on the radio. We been added in London. I ain't never been added on BBC radio, you know what I mean, Like we in Belgium, we in Bermuda, you know what I mean. I'm looking at it like this, Bro, we're doing all this shit by myself. Ain't no major

Ay man.

The main thing to me is always gonna be like, hey, bro, I aint never did a publishing deal, so guess what. They ain't never had enough money for me to sign what I write away. Because I'm a real artist. I wrote everything I ever said So I don't know nothing about selling myself off for cheap, and I don't care about money like that, you.

Know what I mean.

Nigga had money. Man came in the game on the fourth car Man, I was already doing this. Money ain't never really been my reason reckoning how I do things. It's just always been about me caring about what I represent. See, I had a mother and father together. My mother and father were together my whole life. Man, See a lot of stuff that a lot of these kids come from. I don't come from that, you know what I mean?

In the hood.

I felt comfortable in DC Hill, I felt comfortable in the low guards.

It's like cause Kujo Kujo was another beast as a kid. He was a west side kid. So Kujo was all about the action at all times, you know what I mean.

So it's like being when you when you get that that that ghetto kid, that that be off the chain, and you hear partner, You're like, man, we've been going to jails and shit ninth grade together. So for me, I just be looking at it like I been the type where I ain't been in so many situations. But since I comfort something, I always knew when to walk away. I walked away from a lot of situations that I

That's why I don't. I don't look at no other rappers like that, man, you know what I mean. You know, i'd be like, man, I don't. I don't know what that be about it.

Man, I don't know.

I don't you know, cause like what, like these folks be thinking that they got to get a dead in the game out here, man, Like I just be like, brother, No, you don't, I don't know, sell their ass off. As soon as somebody come off them enough money, that's all he gonna do. In the music game. So you better, you better understand that your alliance better be to yourself and never to nobody else, because because because brother, you ain't gonna do nothing a personal starter company sign.

Everybody and then say you to some Russians in the middle of the night.

So as long as you understand the game, you playing it cool, you know. And that's the reason why me doing a record with James Worthy. Now, y'all gotta really get into this man over here, sitting over this man over here. This was Whitney Houston's. This is an assistant man. This this man hen I'm learning the other day he.

On BBC Nude on the BBC and the ladies.

Say, man, James Bird they on here and work with Katy Perry and Justin Bieber. I'm sitting on here like, huh huh, huh. Fifty million records.

So I'm like, when you ain't told me that, shout.

Yeah.

And so it's so dope to just come with a record like we did because it's just geared to women and it's just geared to relationships. And I just feel like, right now, you know, the biggest thing that I think we're missing in black music is just.

The part where we care about each other, like when I grew.

Up, man, I mean I remember when Atlanta, Man, it wasn't enough for Atlanta nigga ride around town.

Bro listen to god Damn Keith swear.

I'll be sure loud when the guy they'll win it down straight out, you know what I mean.

Like dude would listen to R and B music, you know what I mean.

And I'm just thinking like, now, man, these kid don't have nobody but Jock Queeze and goddamn Chris Brown for the had twenty years like Chris Brown had the whole R and B section down, you know what I mean.

So you know I'm looking at it like, yeah, of.

Course that because we just interviewed life and we had this talk.

Oh you did.

But you know it's just talking about love never gets old. And I think in the black community right now and just in black music, man, we don't talk enough about just us care for each other.

Like it's all teed Ale shit, you know what I mean. And it's cool. You know, I come from the.

NW, a loose skywalker the ear. But shit, at least you had something else. You had BBD. You had no addition,

You can't do it.

You can't do it, bro, you can't it. Got somebody got to stand up. Somebody got to stand up, man, and then we're gonna make more money. We're gonna make more money. But if you gonna let aid, you gotta understand. I've been watching gurus page.

I've been watching a lot of people pays a lot of discussion about this AI.

Stuff going on.

It's called AI, it's AI artists. I just watched something on Kanye West last night. Man did a whole song sounded like Kanye ain't nobody, ain't Kanye, ain't nowhere in there, no but the computer. And I'm saying, if we not gonna at least as a community fight some of this shit, guess what we It's not gonna be no artists, no more right, and and guess what all they did was butter a few of us up. We took the millions, but we ushered in a whole new artist and we killed ourself.

Neven Mason Handy, she said she they're gonna mix out them for look AI and they charging end of an artist's career.

And what they're doing, they're going over to other countries and doing it like they're going to Japan. They're going to other places and they creating these artists. And once they get over here, there and sold a couple of million records and there's nothing you could do because the train already gone. They said, anything else.

When what that does, too, just to break down the AI thing further, is that eliminates the label's responsibility because it's like, since it's an artificial intelligence, which is which is essentially not a real person. Theyn't got about these niggas. No cards ain't got about these niggas.

So who writing the music though? Who got to get support for the writing their own music?

No, they're doing exactly what they would do for artists. They bringing their writers in and making them write songs.

Now, Oh, somebody gotta perform it though like not.

The image performed typing in I'm saying like, like what I'm saying is like do I need do I gotta go record it like auto tune type ship or no.

They're doing they putting the voices together in the computer and type words, and then it's saying the words.

Talk melody because because.

I'm saying, how you get the melody, how you get the rep of the rep right with the flow? You hear what you hear what Siri talk to you on your phone and her voice changes serious.

The exact same thing now.

So so that means that when I say, yo, bro, all I'm saying, I don't mean to disch nobody. But at the end of the day, if I a and our person who could be a great marketing person for a label can go in the studio by everybody on the goddamn be a board, put them on the record, by all the producers and the writers, and then call theyself an artist, that's just not that's not an artist.

That's a record label.

So all I'm saying is they're bleeding everything into one thing, and then they're trying to make where it's no different artists. It's no different from them than the person who just knows how to put a record together. And everybody artists where AI artists is an artist also. But understand that this is a this is a control thing, just like putting.

These motorized dogs in the grocery store to check out your groceries and chips.

Like you know what I'm saying. But how the fuck is they being like rappers somebody wrapping it out?

Yeah, yeah, it's like a computer. They'll go, they'll do a song, they have Kanye West voice. The motherfucker gonna wrap the song just like Kanye West.

I'm saying. So I'm just using like what I'm saying, is it somebody gotta say it now, Matthias I explaining for you. It's sirius like top the SERI right now.

It's like it's basically they got technology to where like let's just say, let's just say you Kanye.

They got Kanye, They got Kanye West.

Vocals, right, they could use apportion his vocals and use his voice reflections and put it into their system to whatever you're supposed to do on that on that record, that can use that voice reflection, the.

Type, the type in everything. How they want it, and then the computer spits it back out in that cadence, in that mixture of voices, however you want to play it.

So they gonna have God, They're gonna have big ass coacher, no artists. The arts is gonna be one nigga on different hologrounds like let the people come out and jump around to hop.

But if you really think about it, it's.

Like they've been pushing the metaburship for like two three years now. That's basically that whole agenda.

Like, but I can't tell you this screen man, I ain't had a great time for twenty five years.

I ain't been all over the world. Rap has been great.

Uh all my all, my homeboy, they good and I can't do nothing but live another twenty man, because I got a new TV show coming out on Tin with Man Robinson.

It's called on Tin.

It's coming out, got vehicle, whole bunch of people in the Clifton Power everybody, Uh doing a comedy a comedy TV show with Tory Hart, Kevin Hart's X ex wife doing, and uh what's LeVar Walker?

The comedian?

Soa they got.

So it's like for me personally, I'm just gonna go to the TV and do more TV, you know, and just expound about and being an artist. And then like James just told me, like we probably have to go to London for the BBC Summer Jam. So just to be able to get back out here on the road man, and create and recreate a whole new situation for me after this long, I'm totally ecstatic.

I'm I'm having a great time.

What happened? What happened in that conversation just for we like clarity on Big Fast?

Why what led the conversation for you to say that Tupac would have took Beyonce from jay Z? That was what Well, I saw a clip, but I just see the whole said if Tupac basically was a lie, he would have took Beyonce from jay Z?

Is that again again, man? Jay?

No, no disrespect, cuse, no disrespect Beyonce, love your baby. You had my baby dancing with which out the in l A for the obscoles and shit. So the reason why I said that because I knew Tupac Okay, okay, Tupac will another animal, bro Like Tupac was a superstar before we knew what a superstar was in rap music. He had everything that it took and everything if you think about it, he was the first sex symbol as

And to understand Hollywood at that time.

During that time, Hollywood and the music business didn't even get to They didn't even deal with each other. So he was the one that really joined Hollywood and the music business together. So you just got to look at the impact that that that pop had and at the end of the day, like you ain't got to ask me, ask Andre Rise and man Pop. We was crazy, Man Pop pull up to your house and pick your girl

That clarity. Clarity. You know you can see a clip and get some ship fucked up.

Yeah, yeah, because they didn't.

Be you know, give it say that about you. We're gonna say that you think you about to take your way?

She if she want to go? He might say, they do I think that? I don't know, man, I don't know. Man, these girls do things they want to do. I don't know like that. That would have to be a personal question, like.

You didn't get what I'm saying.

Do I think that you don't think that?

What? So if you I don't think you know what I'm saying.

I said I said that in that in that time and that contest, But I didn't mean in that contest.

I was just I was just ship.

Yeah, I was just saying that.

That's how what what I did on dialogue, that's how we talk in the barber shop. Yeah.

Yeah, they said, yeah, what you were you mad?

I said, no, really, I just I just get I just gave you how Southern niggas talk in the barber shop.

That's all.

Yeah.

And then if you understand that part, then you understand that. I wasn't really tripping on you. I was just saying that the man was that type of dude that if the baddest girl in the room, he gonna try how the baddest girl. And there wasn't no slight to you or to him at that time.

You know.

I was just saying that that's how he was, Like if he seen Janet over there, he gonna go over there, Hey Jenny, what was happening?

You see it?

You like it?

You know what I mean? He was just he had that kind of spirit. So no, I'm what you're.

Saying though, because you know, niggas talk different fromhen we be somewhere else like other citizen should not.

Be hearing niggas.

I be like humh because it sounds kind of hunk. But that's just how them nigga talk, you know what I'm saying. All them understand it. Like he was saying that just in comparison, like shout out with that nigga. Nigga look at like take you know this a personal.

World and the like yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't mean that, Bro, I ain't mean it in that sense, big brother, Like I ain't mean in that sense I was just saying, like the man was just a cocky kind of dude. I mean, Puff used to be like that. Puffa was a cocky dude back in the day. Bro Puff was cocking. He was the only one that could match his COCKA would rereak away, y'all. He could match that cocky all

And I can't say that Puff was one of them cats.

He was way advanced when it came to present himself and how he was gonna do it with bad Boy.

He was advanced, you know what I mean.

So no, no disrespect to Jay because I mean, like Dame dash Man, people don't talk about him, Bro, But how y'all just trying trying to write Dame dash shot the game you write Dame, I mean, they don't get everything that everybody doing the shit Dane was talking about,

The New York.

It's a whole another room regarding New York, you know what I mean, And the South don't have that. The South just got everybody that I ain't came up in the game looked like me, you know what I mean. And that's because of where I'm from. But in LA in New York, it's another situation that goes on. It's other people that's involved with a lot of the success of those artists. And I'm saying that from Atlanta, these artists didn't have those advantages, you know what I mean.

So no, I'm not tripping over it. I'm just saying that our value was only the music. We didn't have anything.

Else to kind of like go to or try to flip our start to or our fame too. It was about us making sure that we were just the best every time we dropped the album. And that's just you know, out cares. It's the only group that ever dropped platinum album. Every album they dropped.

Sold more and more and more.

Whereas when I say that who bigger than Dungeon Family in the South, we the last crew that dropped an album in twenty ten that sold diamond. It's nobody from the from the nineties that got a diamond album. So we staying there's a crew with a whole bunch of people from the two thousands. So just understand where I come from.

Verses with the whole Dungeon Family against.

Ain't nobody could beat us. I was just about to say that they can't beat us. They can't beat us because they ain't. They ain't got se Lo Green, Nolls Barkley with them. They can pull out them Nalls Barkley albums. You ain't got that. You ain't got a three thousand nigga pull our hay y'all of stage number one for eight weeks in London. You ain't got that, ain't produced the whole fucking album. You ain't got that. So when you talk about it anybody, I'll just be like, who

Bruh.

We been whooping the ass man since we been out understanding goodie mob. But the only crew in the South that won three four years straight and vibe for live performances, nobody touched us. So when you say, hey, man, get why you got a problem with these folks, come in. These folks know when we whooping their head, they ain't wanna give us no awards. You got the the you got these stick men out here talking about they great man, You motherfuck can't do shit.

I'm sorry, but I'm gonna tell you.

What it is.

What you feel like, what you feel like they ain't doing what you feel like like? What's the what's the like, what's the issue? What gift like? I got me fucked up? What make you feel like he got me fucked up?

Well, first of all, at the end of the day, you can never you can never ever write us out when I'm on every outcast that ever came out.

How you feel like they're right?

Okay? So how you feel like?

First of all, you gotta look, I've been banned since my first record. I've been banned. I got banned my first record, so I'm always I got black ball, first record, sell therapy. Why is in our culture when you come with knowledge, motherfuckers turn their back on that. But they love all the street shit, But anything that makes us

So who is it though?

Who is it?

Like?

Who is it is the congressions?

Who is it like who it might be your lawyer.

It might be your lawyer.

Just think about this.

When the artists come into the music business, they tell you who you sign it to, who's gonna handle your money, who's gonna be your lawyer, and they are from the same community.

Yes, sir, yes sir. It's nothing bad. But it's just the truth, you know what I mean.

So with that being said, it's us being artists, executives and everything else.

I'm not upset cause somebody running the game on us. I'm upset that we keep letting people run the game on us right now. Yeah, you know what I mean.

You know what I'm saying. Cause they going they move, you are set cause we going for them.

We keep letting them go for the move.

Bro.

Yeah, if we gonna keep letting them go for the move, then then we just we We are the game and we are the prey of the game as long as the game is being played.

HM.

So when an executive want artists like myself or artists like James or any of us who've been in the game and been able to survive, and they could tell these young kids, first thing is ZIX try to do it?

Tell us oh Ji, y'all too old. Man. The kids say, Man, let me tell you something. Bro, how nigga to just start listening to hip hop when he got to college? Tell me something?

And who are you to tell me when I need to lead their business? When Burr you wrote, you work for somebody else you don't own. You don't own that, the company you work for you don't own. So how you telling artists that it made an impact in something? It's time for them to go. No, that's because you will let them folks in indocunent you with the game of rape, rape, rape your own folk, and I'm gonna I'm gonna give you bonuses and more money at the end of the year. Don't tell them nothing bad about

You're right funny with you, right, you know what I mean, Like, it's all one one way. It ain't no balance, ain't no rn B, it ain't no R and B. It ain't no motherfucking like, no conscious rapper none. It's just all one way and it's all you. It's just like and then that's so artists on the come up, donna think that's the only way.

It gives no other it gives, it gives no other examples. It gives no other examples.

And all I'm saying that we think it gives artists out here that's trying to do that though what that shit just ain't working out?

What wre you know what it is?

What it is?

And and and the industry tells me this, he said, givet you know what. Just the bad thing about the industry, all the trash rappers they got all the money, and all the good artists they ain't got no money. Like and I'm just like it's kind of hard though, because you got to think about it, Like most artists, if they really love music, they ain't got no money, man, Like.

They got no money.

Man.

You know what I mean like the hustling.

The hustling shit didn't come to late in this rap shit Like the hustling shit came late when niggas really like, well.

I'm a hustle to do my thing. But a real artist, man, man, he living on two bologna sandwich.

Just surprise man every day. Man Like, it's just that what it is. And I'm just like, you know, but one thing I can say this is that this art man has changed a lot of our lives in Atlanta. And I just look at it like, if we don't at least start talking against the things that is disrespectful and wrong to us, then I think that all of us is gonna lose it in a minute, because sooner or later they ain't gonna do nothing to buy all

It ain't nothing in this game.

Because the reason why I say that, because somebody give you a couple of million dollar deal today and then come in tomorrow and then the president and the person that signs you get fired.

Now you just a lost cause and you get shelled.

They need to be sucked up, I know.

But they started, they starting to take the money back. Now, they starting to take the money. They start, they starting to.

Take the money back now.

So because with them putting the life insurances on you, with them giving you this kind of money, they are putting provisions in these contract that if you don't give them the ascertain the music at this time and that time, now they can start taking the money back. So now now you can't take your your your hand, your name off that contract, but now they can take the finances back.

So all.

Insurance policies and shit.

I don't think that they knocking niggas off. I think that they already know niggas gonna put theirselfs in the situation where shit, that's gonna be already free money, you know.

So I got ambitious to do that.

Though. They fuck with niggas and get their social Security numbers and know they in the streets and ship and take insurance policies down there.

When the nigga died, they get rich and and.

And that's just something that's really really that's cold. But I'm saying that it goes down because it's it's just. But see, I'm just looking at what we're going going through as a.

Community, that this is the first step to change.

The first step to change, we have the first of all. First of all, deal with accountability, you know what I mean. La Read and Babyface man really came to this town and really put some culture on it, you know what i mean. And I'm just saying that once I was able to walk into a studio with La or Babyface, it made me want to change and be bigger than the streets. So why do you all think that after the first album three thousand ain't dressed like the streets

You saying, you're saying, you know how fun She can take a nigga he taken here, that's all.

That's all.

It was a ship you're doing, that's your dream. She could take you place you can never imagine now that.

You do it the right way. This she could take you. Yeah, you're right, right, but but but.

I got some home. But they'd be like, man, what koolbre is at?

Man, everybody can't handle this ship, bro, everybody he helped, but she this industry ship, Like everybody ain't equipped for it, you know what I mean, Everybody ain't equip for this industry ship.

Like mentally, you know, like.

You know, like I could be freal, like even with me, like I quit music for a long time, for a good little minute, just because it got sad my dude, like losing losing my niggas, slimmed, losing pimp, losing soldiers, slim Like I was close to a lot of these folks that people listened to, so they were my partners. So losing them the music, man like, It's just like it made me not an't want to rap no more,

I mean, I went some everwhere and sold records.

Bro. But it's just like the lifestyle, get tirresome bro Like, man, you know, went through a divorce, lost houses and cars, had to start over.

Shit. I was just too vild shot. I haven't got damn too much.

I was doing too much, man, I was, you know, get with first to be kind, bro, I would Me and Joy was the first hip.

Hop couple like before anybody, so you know doing Joy. That was Dallas Austin's second hand.

She was with Madonna ere where you know, Joe was a whole another beast then, you know what I mean, So me being with her being that I'm from southwest Atlanta, E Point. It was just a total It was like some bobbying and witness shit from it was rapped, you know what I mean. But it wasn't on what they were doing. It was just I shit was just wild rock and roll ship, you know what I mean. I'm just you know, and then me man like shit, I got I got, man, I got a lot of girls.

Man, I can't help her. Man, you know what I mean?

You got what the women brot? My hell long, hell long, man. I'm taking all invitations. Man, I'm writing prescriptions.

You know.

You know what I mean.

Everybody get a shot man with the hell man, I'm from the gentleman club.

Man, I'm trying to general you know. So it's like, I don't know.

I think it was just that dad again that that. That's another thing I would tell a young artist man, like you got a long time to live. I don't think about marriage to thirty and thirty five years old.

Man, I'm telling I'm telling all. I'm telling y'all.

I'm just saying. I'm just I don't read why I'm saying that, because see, I know you don't know yourself when you do that I know you don't, because I would with fame, having more money than I ever had, and still trying to be a father like my father was to me. My father working ups and was a soldier, so he came home every night. I didn't, you know what I mean. So it's like, you know, trying to trying to be young, trying to be famous, trying to

So what let me ask you this, what y'all think is to like the qualifications of a nigga being a married man, Like.

What's the qualification?

I would say, at least knowing yourself. Most men don't know ourselfs until we pass our thirties. And I'm gonna tell you because women change five times. Women change when they start sixteen, twenty one, twenty five, twenty eight, and when they go in to they thirties, when they get to they forties, yeah, but they be a whole another person too, because then when they get to they forties, they find out they still find they everything, still work this shit, They still gonna be able to find whatever

Most of us still.

You know, for a long time, man, I still kept my mama over certain shit because I'd be like, I ain't about to be doing.

That shit, like like Texas and shit, a lot of shit that we don't know.

I think that we should know that shit before we get involved with somebody else to try and be there they other have because a lot of us don't even know what it is to be a man. Really when we get married before thirty And a multimedian there told me that, he say, man, I tell all my kids, don't don't even think about that till you get thirty five. Don't even think about that. Get your life straight, get your the way you gonna live, and the things that you're gonna do for yourself.

Get you.

You can't have a goal for somebody else when you ain't a reach yours, you can't do it. And being in the marriage at a young age, both of y'all trying to figure out what the fuck going on, both of y'all trying to figure out what works with both of y'all. But money is a big thing in marriage, and you don't know that till you get married. Shit lead real fast when it's two of y'all. But when you add a child through it, it's and music interviews,

So you gotta understand that it's a hard thing.

To try and balance fame and family, because family really needs time for family, and money does not erase the time that's lost.

That's all real shit.

Jim, some big gift man.

We appreciate you putting up the big fast James Worthy salute man on the streets.

It's a big fact, no cap. Fitch