BIG FACTS feat. ATL JACOB

I keep running into you? Man? I think that's good fortune and good favor because you're doing some amazing things. Definitely just working working my way out from different mindsets to the next level. What what? Why? Why production? Because I feel like, you know, everybody's like you're talented, your intelligent, all that good ship. Like why production for you? Like when you was coming up, why was it that the thing that you said, I want to kind of just

mesh with it and make history. Actually I was rapping first, and um this was a round time player CARDI actually started rapping. I was in high school. I wanted to wrap on my own beats. I didn't want to use YouTube beats, so I was like, man, I want to I want to make beats that I can wrap for and that's why I started producing. So you started producing

to make the beats for yourself. Yeah, but didn't you I'm sorry, didn't you like get a background for knowing the different instruments and stuff like that because you went the marching band. Yeah? I was in marching bad from uh six I joined. I was actually playing with the high school marching band since sixth grade. So yeah, I actually just you were like advanced. Yeah, I was advanced and bad. I was first cheering everything like over the older and I actually just donated ten thousand to the

to my band. To my high school. Bad school was a creasy high school. Yeah, okay, headed out where you come from, Like what's side time? South side? You know, uh Old National, say, the Union City, all of that down there. So you know most kids down there with the creek side or banners now not West Late. That's when the rich kids went to the He's ready with your mom and dad just my mama, my uh my dad was always moving around and stuff, you know, So I just didn't work out, you know how they go

how your relationship Now we're cool. I talked to him sometime. You'd be like your owner soon. No, I don't nobody, man, oh, my mama, everything not for sure? Your dad yeah all the time. You know, throw a couple of Huntred got siblings sid some of us and told them on my mama's side and my dad. I can't even tell you how many kids he got. I don't know. I know

I met one, I don't know the rest. What was what was your first okay, what was your first like I guess you could say local hit, and what was your first big hit that reached like gold and black status? My first local here I say, like spend the block. Yeah, it's spend the block, Grandy Crib with dirt, spending block

with the Dirk comcludo. Uh in my mainstream you know, super, I feel like, well they say it was I and then but I say, like to me, I feel like it was super because that's that's so When when you was making these beats for yourself, when when when did it hit you that, man, I had to start giving some of these beats to some other people because it's that ship gonna make some income. Um. Actually what happened?

I always felt like my beats wasn't ready. I was like, man, I don't want tobody hear these yet, like maybe like first in my hood and said, I used to be like, man, listen to it. I just made this. That's like in the beginning. But like I always felt like I was never ready yet, Like even even like now, I still be like, man, I need to go harder. So I always felt like nobody was ready to wrap on my beats here because I was still perfected it. But it came to the point where people was hearing my beats

they wanted it. So by the time I met Casino, and I was still felt like I wasn't ready. I met Casino, Casino was hopping on everything. So then that's when you took me PLU and I was like, well, I gotta gotta turn up faster even more because I still feel like it ain't ready. You're in the game now, yeah, yeah, in fact, so how is that? How is that moment? Man?

Like the phone line changes. I'm sure you still get your homies and your family and all that ship, but now the phone and adn't given moment can be your call. I d will read Future or Drake or Kanye or whoever else is calling your phone, Like, yeah, thats kind of surreal and how you deal with it. At first, it used to be like damn bro calling, let me answer this. They would be like, oh yeah bro calling ship. Okay I am Sometimes I missed the call, you know,

always hit him back, always still be humble. It's just um. But that anxiety of like, oh my god, isn't It's like it's not there like it used to be, like yeah, back then it was like the future calling me, he wants a beats man, let me make gonna pull up right now. Like sometimes I when you have beats ready, I'm he'll's coming to pull up a song and I make like ten beats and like and like two hours right before I pull up on and be like man and he'll go crazy on the whole path. How did

it feel like getting your first hit? Like it's still motivates me to go harder now. I feel like because you know, like when you get your first hit, it would be so many people chasing that money. Like they say, you can't make a hit until everybody coming for the check. So like you got this person saying they did this, this person saying they did that, and then just sucking up the money or like not sucking it up. I'm really just holding it back, like where you gotta wait longer.

So it's like, Dawn, I gotta go even harder. Get another hit, because this money can take a long time because you folks saying this and then then like you get another hit. You got another person saying something. You know, like you think you don't did the business perfect, it's like they're another one. So now I feel like I get another hit. So when you say like like these folks are saying this, you mean like other people are

staking claim to helping you make the beat. Yeah. Yeah, That's why I rarely used loops unless it's like I was there and when they made it, or I just know for sure that they did it. Because the business it would be like stuff for like up and coming producers. You'll give them a chance and like they it will be like, man, I need eight thousand advance and it's the first placement, and they'd be like, what burn my

first place and I got a thousand others. Yeah, So it's like the business of it just makes you want you know, I want to work with only people that you're familiar with. That's why it's that's why I just think in the circle with my producers. Yeah, that's what I was just about to ask you. So do you have, like, um, a team of producers that you work with that like kind of helped rejuvenate your creativity. Yeah, it's um, we

can many family my label. It's UM we got like producers. Yeah, I'd like eleven of them in total, but they're all doing good, so we just got to get them to do great. Fat. Yeah, you collad with another producer, like another popular producer, um, yeah, but don't be like the homies like you know Meto Southside, don't like my brothers T M D Y. But outside of that, I never can. I never collad one another big producer if you had, if you had one collab you can collad with, But

who would it be? Well? Coming up always one of my sound sound like Metro, So I would have said Metro, but like we already yeah, so m I say like maybe uh, maybe Templary, Oh definitely Manny Fresh too. Yeah. Man. So let me ask you this because a lot of people that aren't from Atlanta and that aren't familiar probably want to know how did you come up with your famous producer tag Um. It was actually a young school. Who came up? What did he? Uh? He had a

song called Real Talk. That first thing he said, a TL Jacob ETL Jacob shout up to the ox, so I knew those the tag soon as he did it. Just start throwing all the beats, shout out of the street, Oh God. And one of the most touchiest moments and with shouts of sunny digital what he was here? We talked about it. But one of the most touchiest moments as a producer is when you get that call from them fouls and the stems and all that ship. So

how does a T. L. Jacob balance that? Because sometimes you got the homies men, I need, I need to make you man, sent the fouls, sent the stems, and then some producers like, hell no, I ain't. It ain't gonna happen. And sometimes that's strange relations and ship. So how do you deal with it? Uh? Sometimes, to be honest, I hate sending the fouls because they never knowlready missed

my beats. So my my secret, and I'm about to gift to everybody, is I missed my own beats and I sitting in the wave foul, So it's still hits. That's why, right, on still hits the way and it sounds like it sound like the way when I made it, because I'm not getting them fouls just in case they need him. We're not using fouls on them. Find the Master,

my my Way foul. Yeah. That's so when it comes to sending fouls, it's just yeah, Like to be honest, like me and Pluto Learning, we use two tracks the whole album to track, just we don't need fouls no more. That's like, that's like going by the books, man, we

go by vibe. Yeah, and it hit every time. What what what do you think because you're artists as well, Like, what do you think is some of the formal of the producers or artists falling off with some of the things that you think happens to make them fall off. I feel like sometimes they go by the books by saying, like a lot of artists, especially well, I'm gonna say like a lot of upcoming artists, they go, Okay, I'm starting this song, what's the hook? First? What does the

beat sound like? You don't even need a hook, so you're just forcing the hook, and then you you're just doing bars and you're calling these eight bars the hook because you just said something. You form at it as a hook and that's not even like there's not even a vibe of the song. So sometimes they will mess up the whole song because they're thinking that's the hook, and it's like, sometimes you don't need a hook. Sometimes

your hook might come after the verse. Sometimes the hook might come sit steen bars later exactly, and it's just a vibe. Is all about the vibe of the song. So that's why a lot of upcoming artists mess up. And where the upcoming producers messed up is they don't produce records. They just make the beating let the artist. They don't think about the entire total picture of the

whole entire ship. Yeah, and that's where and and that's that's not what you want to do, because what you want to do is like work so great where it's like the rappers calling you back, like come back, I need you, like where they actually need you instead of where they just want you. I want you to send

some ship and then like that's it. That's why I like, I respect every artist that like that respects the way I worked, Like Blue though he was the first one to you know, to really let me work high work and like, play with songs, not play with him, you know, do my thing on the songs instead of him just saying this is the song. If he ever said this is the song, he probably gave me the session to

do something with it. Yeah, that's why I always respecting him for that, but respect your insight into the whole crafty. And it makes me and and like, that makes it hard for me to work with up and coming artists because a lot of these artists don't listen. They just want to rap and they don't want to make songs. I'll be like, man, I'm trying to make songs, and I don't understand that. It's both of your songs collected effort, Like my beat, you just putting the lyrics on it,

but I know I know what I hear on my beat. Yeah, And they will never understand that. They just think everything they think is right because they made a uh a little a small accumulated song that's going crazy a little bit and it's bigger than that. You want to, Yeah, you want to song that's gonna like stick forever, like stick for a long time and least yeah, so you so you brought the idea already with um with the girl already on the wait for you. Yeah. Yeah, so

that's actually one of my favorite songs. It's called higher Yeah so. Uh when I sampled it, fan z said it would have chopped up on it already, but I just placed it around differently. I was like, man, so I was treating the vocals as a song already. That's why when Pluto was like he heard the song, he just listened to the when he heard the beat, just listen to beat a much straight without wrapping on it,

because they already sounded like a song. So he just we are new as a smashes because of the vibe of it. That's but that's like my favorite beat I ever made so far. What's your dream feature? My dream feature? You got it? I ain't got it yet. Wow, I'm gonna get it though. Uh you know how crazy that would be? Yeah? Right, exactly, exactly sure, Like Jacob, are you serious right now? Imagine justin Bieber to imagine or it's already imagined. Yeah, facts right, Like that's gonna be

a vibe. It's gonna be a little minute, but it's coming. It's coming now, damn it. You are right? Just might be what are he going to night just to be outside. O god, I know that's coming real soon. Have you have you planned as a producer your next sound, because a lot of producer homies tell me one frustrating part is that when you create a sound, obviously the upcoming producers they all So if you already planning your next sound, yeah, my next sound was the way for you vibe. Man,

It's like I'm making a new sound. We already made it. Uh, I'm just finding the right vibe of artists to get on it where it just sounds like where it's just a masterpiece because you don't want to get the wrong person on it. But I got some stuff, some crazy stuff, and it's like it's simpler than you think. You're just a vibe though. So I've definitely been practicing. I take breaks from making beats to get my mom right to make the next way. So that's what I want. Everything

I do. I'm making the next way. I'm make a tent packing this way, ten packing the next way, tim packing the next way. Keep going. They said, any else, we're not get big. You got kids it, Yeah, I got three of them. You feel like you want your kids being music. They love music. That's a crazy thing, like since they were since they was like months old. Like my daughter she used I used to make beats. She'll be dancing while I make beat, Like she couldn't

even walt me dancing. And my son hill ratch, he'd be like doing this. One'll be having him with uh hind he played with hinders a little bit sometimes and uh he was trying to teach hinders how to wrap im. So he just got the swag already. So I know what he's gonna do. Uh he like to chose the one. Yeah, Yeah, what's the best and the worst thing about your success? At this point, you believe, I mean the worst the

worst thing is always the entitlement. But if you don't got people feeling entitled to your success, then you ain't doing it right. Because everybody want to sing, everybody want to be part of the winning team, so that means that you're doing something right. So it's like the worst thing, but then it's you gotta look at it as a

good thing because they entitled because you're doing it right. Then, Like the best thing to my success is seeing how far I'm going versus how far I can go, Like keep reaching out to go further so like, what's your the whole like relationship status right now? I got like, judging from the freestyle he came to my showing spit, that's a wild boy. Yeah what was that line? What's the one I'm gonna make him do something and do something with so and so and something. Yeah this man?

Why oh yeah? It's like my god, because it's like like the way I look at the relationship, you know, he keeping around, keeping around, Not the way little bush he feln't tell you what it is man, The way I look at relationship, like it's not about entitlement, like feeling like I own you. It should be like I'm adding on to your happiness. So it's not like I'm

trying to control you. Like like growing up like I don't, it's been crazy ship like where like I'll be fuking with the girls, you know, for all my partners and I ain't even know and I found out later, but like at that time, I'm in high school, so that type of ship would be like, damn, bitch, you could have told me. But now it's like not that I expect that from a girl. But like if that happened, it like ship, what it did? Man? So I still

funt with you for you rather you whole. It could be a girl selling pussy like if she's a great person, I'm gonna still funk with her, like because that's you, but not saying I'm a cover liken the You're gonna

be my little friend. Like so it's like I just know me, And relationships right now is probably like beet locking in like just ain't the thing right now, But being a having a genuine friend that's or a genuine friend or two next to you, like yeah, you know, benefit takeing wrong, trip bound or something you know, or like god, just vibing with each other. That's like more of the thing because it's more of like finding the girl who understands you as a man and that you successful.

So like as long as yeah, that's what it should be. As long as y'are vibing and happy with each other, that's all. It shoudn't matter. It shouldn't matter like nothing else. Yeah, Like if I'm working with you, I ain't gonna get mad if you like would have nothing to get like that that's what you chose to do. So I get it, like I ain't tripping, but ship you might not get treated the same, but like as they're like what I'm doing,

but like I'm still in a long term. Yeah, in the long term, but I'm still a funk with you for you because you're a great person. But like so if you ever see me, I don't get discouraged because I still love you to say just like, don't get discouraged. I should love you to say, just I'm vibing right here for now. I would see you later because you were vibing right there and I didn't have a problem with this. Yeah yeah, yeah. People say keeping the player,

keeping it p I just say, man being yourself. Yeah, letting female sept for them, that's your story where he is now, Like my yes, from now, he can have a completely different story. Like there's just one and that's just because I saw like some little I saw some little um some little stuff like on the blogs, maybe about one girl that you were in love with. Then now you're maybe having a couple of issues. Yeah you

know what I mean. So you wanna you want to talk about that or we want to I break that down, so like because you got call on names or no ship like that, but just you know, speak on the situation because we're all aware. So so we're gonna call the first girl girl one for the second one girl too. So okay, so they got it missed up. I was

what girl wanted for almost two years. So we um, you know, she caught me cheating and stuff this and that, and we we broke up like maybe for for five months after I said she couldn't get over, but we know what really happened. She turned up. I wanted to see what's outside, and it's like, you can't come back after that. You can't come back inside once you go outside. Yeah, but like not saying we can't be cool, it's just this, ain't you So it's like once you dick bit Yeah yeah, god,

hey man, but I ain't tripping I was. I want to tripping about it. It's just like if that's what you choose, like then go that route, like not saying like I'm gonna hate you. I'm still a funk with you, but not the way I was, Not the way I was. Yeah, So now then it's like having a girl, like how the girl to get in the mix. I actually met her in Miami, um way after we broke up, like after my birthday actually this year, um earlier this year. So man, Miami. We just vibe off back like since

the first day and we were just kicking it. So Drake Drake had rented me to his house. He was house house like crazy like, so I just had to stay at the house and I flew my mama down there. So we had the house vibing for like a good week and we were just you know, Valentine's. They came up. Some stuff happened when in the in the d M s and I was, yeah, so I ain't going to Jamaica and you to a girl three. No, it was girl girl Too Jamaica, and like the blocks picked up

on it. But they never knew what they were talking about because they were saying that I cheated on a Girl one with Girl Too, when you actually new Girl Too from the beginning a new Girls. I met a girl too after we broke up. Oh but you never cheated because you guys a girl you and Girl one were already like pretty much done. Yeah, so they was, so they never knew, but they you know, I how the blogs go, They always met stuff up. But yeah, they stretched it to the max for no reason. But

I mean me and girl two weeks we're good. We're close. You know that's that's like a wild boy she taught prospect. Yeah basically, Yeah, she definitely priorities. Girl, tell you know who you are man, you need to typen up. Yeah, so she she's a great girls. I feel like she just added on to me. You know, that's and we don't need no exclusive ship because we u and it's great vibe. That's just life stuff. That's just life stuff.

But she understands me as a man, like that's what, that's what and that shows her maturity and like and like really understanding the man facts. What if he was on some other bullshit like just lying to the female stringing them alone. You gotta respect to that man telling

his truth and where he is right now. Yeah, like yeah, like my as like that really taught me, like not a lot of girls no more so it's like I tell like me girl telling what it is, not like I'm just out here a lot of holes, car, I'm really not Like after my break up really made me look at like a lot of these bits like right bad, this is what made me look at him like I don't even want to even And that's just like the vibe. So that could that could that could play a part

of that. What was talking about the earlier following off to just getting too overconsumed into what you have access to? That because I was got plenty of access, but don't mean you gotta use all the access facts, I mean too many like little famous ship that dar me, I don't even spun unless I gotta know you in person. Maybe if we're in person and maybe you know you'd be one. So with some of the should you do

to stay focusing grounded and humble and ship? Um? Actually, I think when keating your humble is my drive to um want more because I always feel like I don't don't do enough, Like yeah, I got number one on the charts, I got nine songs on the billboard, but I want more. So it's like I gotta go harder and I ain't gonna stop till I get all the songs on the charts. Hundred mm. Yeah, it's hard. You're in the right company, Yeah, I mean I'm only twenty three.

I got now per cent of the charts, so I feel I could do I can get a hundred percent of charts at least fifty. I don't make its possible here, you put your minds over for real. Definitely, what's some ship you got coming up that people might not know? Um? I got, of course, you know the Kanye songs coming out on his album. I got a single with Gucci Man that me and thirty Rock did. I got, Uh, me and cord ain't been locked in. We um we have to make some good music. He called it the

Grammar Grammy nominated album. So mostly gonna be produced by me. So that's that's my focus right now. On the Cornea album. What artists would you bring back that has passed away back to life the work? It's it's it's for sure. That's probably hard to X and J man. What I don't I ain't never cried with nobody died but I didn't even know that man. But I really broke down like that was crazy because Bro was like, uh, putting out you know, positivity, no matter his past. He was

still putting out like positive vibes and stuff. So then away Brodad was on the street ship when he was just going there to go by motorcycle. Yeah, but like you know, ship happens. That would be definitely like one out bringing back to work with he uh, he definitely like he didn't even comparable. He like, uh, I don't even know what's the big artist like which is different? Like uh, you said Michael Jackson types like he definitely

like he definitely was gonna be one of the greats. No, he I didn't know how hard he was he passed. I felt bad about every song on his album Multi it's multi platinum, every song like from song once to nine, like every song multiple platinum. So that's big. And it's his first album. Who to goat to you like in the wrap ship right now in the wrap like completely overall. That's a hard one because it's like, honestly, it's like what to me is like out of Kanye and Drake.

It's like Kanye just because of creativity, and then what he did in the fashion world just him, just him overalls and business man then it's drape because the charts man don't be running the charts over a decade. So if I had to pick one, it will be uh, I can't even really pick. It's like it's like they it's like the good business move. It's two different, two different day up there in two different, two different ways like businessman art and then with Draco businessman too. So

you can't forget about your face. Definitely yeah, and then definitely flute up for show that man running like man, I'm like you can running Atlanta for minute? And then baby one of my favorite appitude that man hard but greats overall, Like that's crazy. Ye, So lifestyle ship, your day has just started. What's the ship Jacob got to have? Like just around or just ship you gotta have for your day to go right from top to bottom, Like the first thing you do when you wake up, got

to have is jewelry and mall certain female whatever. You know what I'm saying, um my day to day definitely like at least make beats at least once to day, even if I don't, at least write some right lyrics write music, So do music every day? Yeah, definitely, Um, I really be chilling, honestly, I fly out a lot on beards in Atlanta. So so what some like some ship you like to do in your free time to like have fun or like to wind down and relax and enjoy yourself now like bowling anything you want to

get him with bowling? Man called me like, uh, I like driving fast at right? So I just like driving. You know you're gonna track sometimes drive fast. Yeah, yeah, that's about it. What's your favorite food mm hmmm, I'm wonna say a favorite foods, a favorite restaurant. It's probably Commodo in Miami. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And they're having some bad ship. And that's the first time you spent a lot of money on. You got your first check, my first check I think I spent. I was in London.

I had gout like a hundred, ten thousands something like that. It was from uh, I just got paid from future album. I spent like twenty thousand of my kids. Soon as I woke up, that's all right, seen the check hit. I went at sleep Now, I'm like, what the fuck that one? I was at the malling like ten minutes. I got dressed so fast, and I just I knew I was spent like kids, but I didn't know. You

had my first time in the country. So you gotta pay to pay the brain of ship back and they taxt me another like another four thousand just to bring all that ship back. Yeah, I get back home from now A. Yeah, that was the first thing I spent. It's a big money on the second part of no century. Everybody spending money on ju. When I spoke to you last you said you feel like, um, you're gonna be one of the biggest on the miss cultes, biggest artists

in the world. I think that's what you told me definitely, So talk to us about you know, what supports that feeling and why you feel like that. Just the vibe of music I'm making from my album in general, um, plus the connections I have but just my artistry and and and told them because a lot of people don't know what's going on in my head. But now I'm putting it all Like we'll just put it all out there, right it's visually or even in the music and everything.

So I'll be able to do that where be even where was what I'm thinking about? So like everybody gonna be like I already know what they're on there like this man, just what is this? Folks? They're gonna look at it crazy and first than they're gonna it's gonna be the way why do you say looking at the crazy?

Like what kind of music is? Because we pous the just the vision and all, you know, because I'm growing up, you know, I was always like like all my bros and stuff is in the streets on the crazy stuff. But I was the one, like I was the one at home make it beace like not doing the crazy stuff. Now say they don't comfort That's just I was thinking differently than them. So it's like I always had ideas just growing up from back from that then that that

I just want to put out now. But it still represents, like, you know, doing the right thing at the same time, do you feel like people be sleeping on you as an artist because you you are successful as a producer. Definitely. They it's like they're gonna expect a certain thing when they hear my project or hear me wrap as an artist who like, I'm gonna give everybody what they don't expect because what they don't expect is what you're here. All right, they spent what's already out there, We were

doing that. We're going to the other route, they said, we're not getting big back to a little bit of lifestyle. Like when you kind of told us your favorite restaurant, but what's your favorite food? My favorite food like, um, yeah, chickenwing. It'd be so silful for artists and producers. I love it fast, uh sweet sweet chili pepper springs, okay American, Okay, sweet, Yeah, you can mix it. You can mix some meingle and

wings jay, just a new just a new day. I might have to try that to see what it's like. Sweet chili. I've had sweet chili alone. That's good. Yeah, that's what I've never had pepper ranch or even if you ain't got sweet chili, tried braids wing with pepper spre Now that sounds a little bit more doable. Yeah, you gotta your three kids by your same by the same moment. Oh it's two girls. I got two baby mamas with it probably a hum yeah deal. One Now we like we yeah, we cords him like we barely talk.

So it's like just speak to him when you have to. But they know it ain't no beef, Like they ain't gonna put me on child's everything, ain't taking carol. So like it's just cords. It good good relationship though, like that it ain't unhealthy. You don't feel like you never get bad with that one. Ana, I look at I just look at women so different now, like in a good way. Like we're like I'm just so picky now.

So it's like I want to like it's like women I used to touch I wouldn't even touch me more so, it's just it's just they followed that category. Yeah, they just followed that category. I want. He said he's ascended, he's elevated. He's like, no, shades, you're on some equally yolkship. Yeah, like just on your birthday. That's right here. I understand what the man saying, capital but I get it. December, get it just like you would get it of a gymnil. Yeah,

my son and we exactly sits months apart. Okay, my simme to his June too. He's saying he wants someone equally yoke. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. You're just saying you're just making cole of bad decision when you were definitely like I got one pregnant and was like I got the other one pregnant like weeks later. So like, are your kids saying they get Yeah, they're three weeks apart. Damn.

I mean somebody was getting busy said because they're gonna get older and said anyway, so yeah, that's what's up. So do y'all have like joint birthdays or like do that each get separate or like it's actually just way too close to make a big deal out about the altim or they get separate birthdays. I would like to do you know, one big birthday, which would be firing. Yah, it's probably best. You know, they mom's young, so the probably best to keep separated right now. Yeah, they do?

Do they know their siblings? Okay, you didn't know that, Like, um, my my daughter know that's her brother. My brother know that's his sister. So they'd be knowing, like they're smartest him. My daughter just spoiled my son just he spoiled too, or so they just know how to My son is a manipulator. My daughter just don't listen how you bounding? Like being so busy in the avasa for your kids.

That's the hard part, um especially I got like two kids live out of state, and you know, one to live here, so and make it hard because you gotta, um like, go get them from out of town, bring him somewhere. Sometimes I when I'm out of town, fly them down. We're like with their grandma or with my mom. Fly down with them somewhere, like if I'm in Miami,

and so bring them down. And that makes it easier too because I can still spend time with them didn't gonna work, spend time, gonna go work until they go back home. But it's a process some sort. How many people you lost alone on on the way your journey, Like Famine Man was a friend m family members. That's the crazy thing I growing up, Like I met my cousin, but I was never close with him, so like it's still love. There're just I ain't really talked to him,

but like it's just the lack of a relationship. Yeah, like like we don't hanging around each other as much. It was a lot of beef in the family about who knows what. But then you got like friends, people don't. My friends are lost a lot because they don't understand. They'd be like they always quit to pull the Hollywood

car or you ain't never got time to do nothing. Yeah, like I don't even understand like Nigga trying to really be a billionaire, Like I ain't put to be a billion and sent on the block talking to y'all all day about what's going on in the hood. Yeah, it's like, yeah, that's probably cool, like probably being the video bring you all out. But then you got you got homeboys that understand that. So it's like they know that you don't talk every day, but when you talk to him, it's

all love. Yeah, And it was just like you know, niggas will be doing a little bitch ass ship like like you changing this and that. Like, man, you' don't never get it never ever. They never understand to them. Yeah, you gott any regrets? Actually don't. You would think that I do. But I feel like I'm I feel like it's a reason for everything and why I did it. Um Like, even if its a mistake, like I said,

I don't take loss. You know, I learned lessons. So I just feel like, even if it feels a bad mistake, it was probably a lesson to be learned because I won't ever do it again. Do it twice? Who taught your mores? Um? Well me, it was you know, learning a lot stuff and then my mentor uh I g over there he uh just like giving me like stuff, stuff that I wouldn't really think of, like really think of it. He more like, uh like say what's example,

like saying I'm going through like baby mama issues here? Man, Then what you do? You're norm both and I don't talk to him, and then they'll be they'll be trying to let's see it can do whatever you want, you do it and it worked, So that just be like little stuff like that, like the help out. I'll be learning. It's your love for making music and being a producer and then artist so deep that if tomorrow you can no longer make money off of it, you would still

do it. Yeah, because I didn't do it for the money. I don't even know. I mean, I knew you even made money, but I ain't. No producers like riches hell, I thought that was just like there's a few. Yeah, we get more than for real on the songs. And it's like when you start making beat the only thing that you're just like, man, he beats hardest, but you just you're just listening to him. And then like once you started making money, you still don't even see it

because you're like a couple. Thats cool. And when ship really rolling in and you get like like over like six figures every every quarter, and you're like, man, this ship ye be something else? What you do? What you do If you're sending a beat off and the artists send a song back and you don't like it, um, I lie cool. But then like sometimes this song that I don't like, but I'll take so much out and restarts to the song and then make them redo it.

That's it, like if I really see potential in there. But sometimes i'd be like it's cool and stuff or sometimes a lit and be like the beat taking because it's all about Yeah, it's your art, my art too, and I and I rarely like music, like like songs that artists do. So how you deal with like ind this like if in the artist wanted to work with you. Um, I always telling it ain't about the money, even know they still gotta pay me, but it's more about it ain't about you just giving them a beat even if

their end yards. I still want to touch the song, just like they gotta have a budget, like like bring me a dog real quick, and uh, we're gonna lock it in for real. I'm just not gonna get his beat for the dog and like you're gonna run off and drop the song to him. We ain't doing that song, Like what is the song? Bad and blow Up? And it's like, damn, you got this right? Did this with him?

Hell like you said bad and blow up? So you got a little bulls up little somebody like you said went up like, yeah, yeah, because that now I was I was saying, I wonder where the nigga is that, because I ain't seen nothing from But I get what you're saying though, because it's like, even if the song is whack your Name and it's like the artist part of it is whacking, the beat was dope your Name

is still on the whack niggas first. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, it's still a collaborative whack effort between you and whoever. The niggad is like they might do both of us put this together and they're like, like you had input on the whack part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, hey, we're gonna we're gonna do this the right way. Then session bringing the cash and we

ain't leaving until until we got a good song. You came and did the ship show that time wherever Man he taught me because at that time, you know, I was making a certain type of music, but I'm definitely stepping away from that image of music I was making at that time. So now it's like, now I would do it, But I got all the way up to the same day. It was crazy. I had a video shoot at the same time. It was a video shoot that day. I want I want to I want to

hear the super griming story like making it. Why did you send in the code that or did you cook it up in front of cod that. I want to hear the old story behind it. So the beat originally, Um, of course, of course Future get every beat that I do, like every beat that's out Future though heard it before, But I really made the beat for a little baby. Um. I think that's when me and baby they uh really isn't get And I played it for him that day and he he actually didn't pick that beat like I

went through like honey beats. Maybe because he was sleepy though, but I ain't think no ano it. I just went along. Maybe a few months later, Um me and call that lot down for his album. We didn't get nothing. So I'm chilling the studio. I'm like, man, I call that pull up, like randomly just said pull up. I told him pull up. He didn't pull up. He told me he was on the way. He was stilling on when he probably came like six hours later, and we did

super Grammar going through beat. He just heard it. That's how we did super Grammar. Just like that. I didn't even know it was a hit. So I was like this, I felt like the song was cool. But my engineer from Miami, so he was like, prest a hit song. Hmm yeah, so end up being the hit. And I was like, damn. He knew. That's always the case though, like people say that ship all the time, like I ain't gonna be that. I knew it sound good, but I ain't ye and then it turns out to be that.

He feels like it's a recipe for hits or magic. I want to say, yeah, you definitely it is a recipe. You just gotta learn that recipe. But uh, it's definitely like you still never know. At the same time, it's like you might vote with this song a lot, then it might not be like might not go big. Like one of my favorite songs in Future Did was Nowhere We Did on the Super Flush soundtrack. I thought that song was just crazy. I thought that was like wait

for you, It just ain't you know it slept on. Yeah, that the recipe changed for hits. Um definitely do because the infra music changed at the same time. So just keeping it up, keeping up with the hands and what they like. But you never know. What they like. That's a crazy part. So it's like it's a recipe. Is just it's a hidden recipe. You just gotta figured out how you deal with rappers that might be an eyes with each other as a producer, like like like rappers

and beating with each other. Man, I stay out of I'm a business man. What y'all got going on? As y'all like you did that act funny with you though, like if you it is some rappers that that that like tend like I said, like too, like they don't look at me. It's like all of something, but they do tend to like move away just because at the same time, you never know. You never know because the streets the streets, so you never know. Like that's like me into it with a nigga that's that's over there.

But I'm cool with one nigga over there, and it's like ship. He might pull up and drop the pin one day, so I'll be understanding. I don't never look at it like um, like they're changing and I just look that like man, I'm standing out. They deal with

their circumstances. But I feel like something like when it comes to that kind of ship, like some artists have the power to like I don't want to say squash ship between whoever and whatever, but just like for instance, just like on Pluto's new album, like Kodak and south Side have had their issues or whatever, but Kodak killed Voodoo like murdered it, and it was the perfect combination, you know what I'm saying with south Side beat and his vocals and Shipped on the hook and you know

Pluto's verse like that that's really like one of like another outside of like wait for You. That's really one of my favorite songs that like really touched my soul off of the album. And if it would have been like a whole bunch of bullshit in the mix or you know what I'm saying. However, the ship worked out

for them to make it. If that never would have happened, then we never would have had that song facts, And I was I was actually really happy when they when they when they actually end up talking, because it's like, man, we know yet, yeah, yeah, I got a mouth somehow, yeah got you know, but he is a good dude and he definitely got a good heart. So I did see like how he used to add first and now like he did change a lot in a good way.

He Um definitely been more positive since I've been with him, So he has a good person work with two shout out about them, Yeah, shout out about them for being grown man about the ship. Great music can be made, you know what I'm saying? Good energy? Yeah? Yeah? What's something you want to say to the big facts fans, supporters, your fans as an artist, as a producer, and upcoming producers. Give him some game and some motivation before you slap um. Definitely.

I say this every every every interview, every you know, every time something never stopped, even if you think you're doing it wrong. Just there's always think of what you're doing the uh you know correctly and keep going. But just never stopped, because if you stop everything you work for, you'll be starting over. You never know how far. You never know, you never know how closer with to getting

what you want. Interesting way to look at it, but I imagine if I stopped making beats the day before we made Super Grid, I could like this because I'm sure you had them these days. Actually, no, I have. I love music. It's been times while I was like working with this artist, but it's always like never like fun working period. Yeah, I love it, like I'll just do it for free if I if it was it feels for no money, I'll still be doing it. No, No, I'm saying, like a big fast ground, I ain't having

no money. I need to read. No, I'm not doing it. But like I like, if it was it was making music, had no revenue game, I would still be doing it just because I love it. Like artists like that painting ship, Like they don't know that they ship might become our bossle. They're just painting the ship and the next thing, you know, they don't talk about that offline. We're trying to be a billionaire. Like, you don't need to get paid to reach a billionaire. Fact, Jacob, we appreciate you pulling up

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