"I was botched in TJ and I am not alone"

And that's what made me contact the office and consider having surgery there.

And if it's worth doing the surgery in , in a foreign country and then having the consultation, I think it was a mixture of a little from his end and the charming and those, you know, grandeous promises that can and will achieve the results that I wanted. He was charming and I kind of just fell for that.

And then the price was much less than what I was quoted in the U S and I think it was just the combination of all of it that kind of drew me to decide, let me give this a shot and have the surgery in Mexico

And how much did you pay? And then in Mexico, I believe if I don't count the, you know ,

I was like, oh , what the heck, let me just do it. I'm already

So again, I'm speaking from a place where now I know better, but then I didn't know, wait, that's two days from today. Am I ready physically, emotionally, mentally, do I need time to prep? You know, for the surgery such as, you know, stay away from this and that and donate this and that. Like, none of that really, I didn't think of it because in my mind, if he suggested that, and if he said that I can and it's safe, then I will then I'll trust him. You know?

So I felt a little bit pressured because it was like, well, if you don't do it now, you gotta wait until the end of next month. Cause I'm really booked and I'll do a favor and squeeze you in. So I was like, well, okay, let me do it. You know? And one of the questions I said to him was, is it safe to perform these many surgeries all at once? Cause with a of 360 generally with lipo, the abdomen area, the back and yeah .

And the planks in the broad area, I'm not sure what that's called, but all of that, but because I didn't really have a lot of fat to begin with and to, I guess, achieve will look that he wanted to give me, he said, why don't we also live poll your inner thighs, your arms and your pelvic area. And then I remember saying, well, is it safe to live all these areas at once and do breast implants and do all the fat transfers? And he said, yes, it's no problem. I do it all the time.

So fast forward, I ended up on a Tuesday booking my surgery for Thursday red flag .

And when I got to the recovery home within 24 hours, as the owner of the recovery home took the, the garment off of me, she noticed excessive amount of bruising that was not normal for the procedure that I had. And she got very concerned and she contacted the office of the doctor. He was already on vacation. So now there's just really the coordinator there. That's communicating with recovery, home and recovery. Was it here or was it over there? It was in TJ. CJ .

Yeah. So she contacted the office. I believe it was on a Friday because it was the day after surgery and I was Friday evening and she panicked. She contacted the office and the coordinator told her to bring me to the office urgently the following week on a Monday. Fast-forward what pretty much had what I developed was third degree, burns, excruciating amount of pain. I couldn't move. I couldn't, I couldn't get up. I couldn't fend for myself. I couldn't wash myself.

I couldn't even use the restroom. It was really, really bad and it continued to worsen. So the bruises were just developing into wounds and blisters and then the blisters peeled and all of that. So I ended up extending my stay at the recovery home for about 10 days because I really couldn't do anything. And it was just too dangerous at that point to go back home because there was the fear of getting an infection where the wounds were the burns. Absolutely.

So because he was on vacation, he had his assistant doctor there to pretty much look at me. So every day, while I was in Mexico at the recovery home, I was going to their office every single day for treatment for electrical stimulations. And because the burns were so severe, it was too dangerous to do or phatic massages on my abdomen area and the back area part of my back. And it was also too dangerous to drain manually any fluids from that area.

So what they had to do was insert a syringe into my abdomen, my pelvic area, and my back and manually drain a fluids to touch, to touch the stomach. And in addition to it, I was developing a lot of pain and an unusual swelling or a lump on my leg . So at that point too, they weren't sure why my legs were now starting to look disfigured and why I had a bump. So they were saying, oh, maybe it's just fluid buildups out of my legs. And all of that was really traumatic.

You know, I , I, I didn't realize just how bad my condition was while I was in Mexico. I just knew it was really bad, but they were, you know, pretending, or maybe I think dumbing down the severity of the situation to give me some comfort and mislead me at the same time. I feel like because what I had wasn't bruises, what I had was third degree Leipold burns, you know? So, so in addition to the electrical stimulations, and in addition to the, the assistant Dr .

Manually removing fluids from the stomach and the back and the leg, I also started to get hyperbaric oxygen chamber treatments in Mexico in a confined kind of tank. And that was also very traumatic for me. You know, you have to wear this like gas, if you will, like a gas mask that you really don't see, people really wear unless you're in a war zone.

You know, so I remember the first time I walked there and I put the mask on them , just the mask and itself just took me into like a panic attack and I couldn't do it. I was just so broken. I panic and I couldn't get myself to even keep the mask on. So we left, I left, I didn't do the treatment the first day. And then I wanted to heal so bad and that I said, let me try to go back the next day and give it another shot.

So I did, and I just mentally told myself, just get through it, get through it. Your goal is heal . At this point, you don't know what's happening to your body, just heal. And so somehow I made myself go into the tank and I did 90 minutes in there with, you know , the oxygen chamber treatment. And I did that for three days in a row, but I was still having problems with my legs. I was having difficulty walking, the swelling wasn't going down.

So when I finally was discharged from the , the recovery home and returned back to Los Angeles, my wounds needed to be monitored because there was the concern of an infection. So every week I had to drive, well, I didn't. I mean, I had the help of my family who took me, but every week we needed to go to Mexico every Tuesday for the next eight weeks or so, I had to like be there. And part of the reason why I had to be there as well as because I wanted to heal.

So I was going to do whatever it took to help. And if it meant I needed to be there for an appointment for them to treat me, then that's what I will do. So every week I needed to go there, which was very difficult for me, mentally and physically, and at work and for my family and for your family.

And I lost work, you know, and every week I went there and the wounds then turned into blisters that were filled with fluid, and then it turned into, you know, once those blisters popped open, then they were completely exposed and at risk of an infection. So every day for, I think two to three months, every single day, I had to disinfect the wounds.

I had to dry them, put antibiotic cream on, cover them with gauzes tape them and then put the garment over it, which was very painful and very difficult as it was just with just the recovery of the lipo is difficult as it is. And then you throw in, burns in those areas and then put a compression. It was very, very painful.

So imagine the pain you were in, honestly, and what was, what really like even broke me down even further was that the whole time he wasn't even present because he was on vacation for three weeks, you know? So it was like, dang, you know, you've got his coordinator and the assistant doctor pretty much sending him pictures and supposedly communicating with him. And they're always assuring me that my wounds are healing just fine, you know?

And I was constantly expressing concerns about the overall results and the legs and so on and so forth. So finally, when the doctor returned from vacation and saw me, he said, oh, we, you know, maybe it's, it's not the swelling on the leg. Maybe it's not the, the fluid in there. You know what, maybe I put too much fat there.

So why don't we, you know , have you come back three weeks later, that was, and he scheduled me for surgery three weeks after the original Bosch surgery to perform and operate on my leg a second time. This time he would remove the life of that. He previously injected . He had just inject the fat and try to redistribute it. He assured me that it's a simple process. It's easy, it's quick. And it's painless little did I know that that was not going to be the case. I was not told to fast.

So I went there and he performed the lipo on my right leg while I was wide awake. Wow . They had me lay on my side in the assistant doctor was with me. And he was pretty much injecting me with some Nemec numbing fluid, but he was injecting into an area that was already like sore and painful. And I think he probably injected that solution. Probably he poked me 20 times, if not more. And with every Pope , it was getting worse and worse, the pain.

And it went from me, you know, saying ouch to me crying and to me screaming . And I'll never forget, like there was a point where I kept saying to them, I can't do it. I can't do it. Like it hurts it. And you know how, when a baby cries, they start to choke . Like they just kind of almost like their breath , just like, that's how bad it got for me. And, oh my goodness. Yeah, it was. And I remember like laying on the side and everybody's looking at me screaming in pain, but they're numb to it.

It was like, it didn't phase them. And then after that, the doctor comes in, performs the life on the leg. And I remember he goes into an area that wasn't numb. So I felt the machine inside my leg. And I jumped long story short after that, they put me in a room and nobody came in and checked on me. And I felt so broken at that moment. Like what made him think that that was even appropriate to keep me awake for something like that.

And to think that that was going to be quick and painless when in fact it wasn't. And at that moment I felt really betrayed and probably broken the most, you know, like why would he deceive me and tell me that this is a quick fix? Like, you know, so long story short, what, you know, what I got was not what I paid for. I've had nothing but complications. And this is two years in now and I'm still under treatments .

And I'm still being seen by doctors and dermatologists and trying to seek , you know, a plastic surgeon within the us . That's willing to operate on me. I've had nothing but complications and a lot of issues with my skin. My stomach is disfigured. My legs are disfigured. My Botox is disfigured. I have issues with my implants as well. I have spent so much money on medications and creams and OneCare and travel and compression and treatments.

I've had steroid injections into the stomach to try to break down some of the scar tissues and the keloids that developed as a result of the burns and also into the leg in hopes of minimizing the noticeable lump that I have on there. I've had over 25 lymphatic massages in an attempt to really try to speed up and help their recovery and the damage to the stomach from the burns.

I've had ultrasounds on both legs and on my stomach, I've had MRI's, I've had blood tests, I've had x-rays, I've had biopsy , you know, anything you can think of, like , and I'm constantly still in treatment. Tell me now, after all of that, that you've spent, what's your total so far that you've spent on initial surgery and everything related to it? I think approximately I probably have spent in my new some things I can't really get done because of financial reasons.

So, you know, that doesn't mean I don't need it, but right now today, I think I've spent over $15,000 for everything. And I still need to get reconstructive or plastic surgery to fix the areas that were botched or damaged. That will cause more reconstructive surgeries be more complicated than your initials . So financially it's very expensive, you know,

But that didn't mean I wasn't going to S surgeons for evaluations and second opinion ones . I've gone to so many plastic surgeons in the U S just, you know, to , to , to get an idea of, can this be fixed? Can they help me? And will they help me? And I have yet to find a plastic surgeon that is willing and is comfortable to perform surgery on me. They all pretty much. Yeah, they , they do. And , and, you know, I've had one say to me, I'm sorry, I can't help you.

There's nothing I could do to help you achieve or enhance the results that you have right now. Another one said, I'm not comfortable performing surgery on you because there's just so much damage.

And I don't know if I can, you know, if I want to take that risk, you know, so when you have surgery overseas, or when you are having surgery by anyone that is not properly certified and licensed, or that botches , you, you, you know, you, you get into this, this situation where, you know, you've got surgeons that are very hesitant to go and perform on you, because it's a much more complicated and possibly risky procedure to do.

So it's very mentally challenging because as you are trying to heal mentally, emotionally, and physically, and you think you're making a little progress mentally and emotionally, then you get rejected. It takes you back so many steps and you are then afraid to go to the next surgeon for consultation, because you are in fear of going through those emotions again, the rejection and that , you know , feeling like there's no one you can turn to for help at this point. So it was very difficult.

You know, I was told by several surgeons that I was lucky to be alive, that the surgeon that did the surgery on me and TJ should have never performed these many surgeries on me all at once that he was too aggressive, that the lipo was on . Even that the fat transfer wasn't distributed properly, that he was negligent. I mean, there's so many things that I was told by the surgeons, but I never got anyone that said, I'll do it for you.

So I don't know how much it's going to cost me, but, you know, I just have to trust time the timing and, and hope that there is someone out there that may be able to help me, at least if not enhance the results, just minimize the damage and what the ICS, because it's very difficult to look at every day

And the thing is for me working alongside the plastic surgeons, there's only so much that can be done for example, on a tummy that has, you know, very severe scarring from third degree, light bulb burns. Like that's going to be a very difficult reconstruction because there's not much to do, what can we do with the scarring?

Is there, like the only way to get rid of it is if you cut it out with a tummy tuck, but it's probably that scarring is probably above the belly button and around the ribs and you can't cut that skin out. So then it leaves you kind of like, okay, well, what do I do? What can we do?

So the , those are the predicaments that the surgeons are in, you know, and I know because I've been alongside, you know, and we're standing outside of the room and I've been with them and they're like, oh my God, like, how can I fix this? I want to fix this, but how, or I've had patients who come from the border here in Texas, we have a lot of, you know, women who go down there to the Texas Mexico border and have surgery.

And I had one case that she had a tummy tuck and her tummy tuck didn't heal, or something happened where she didn't heal. And she had a hole in her stomach, the size of my , a diamond, you know, with both of my hands, like bigger than a softball size. And it wasn't healing. And she was going from emergency room to emergency room until she finally got taken care of.

And I think I've told you guys this story before, these are the predicaments that patients are in when they have surgery in another country. And I know, I know you guys, I know that I'm going to have inbox full of, oh, you know, there's, there is good surgeons. There is this, there are surgeons in Columbia , or I had my surgery here and I believe it. Yeah, I understand that. It's true. Yes, there is good surgeons and other countries. Absolutely.

Columbia has some of the best surgeons, but what I'm saying is there's complications with any surgery. You can have complications, you can have the best plastic surgeon in the country touch you. And with nothing that you did, nothing that he did or she did, and you could have a complication. So now imagine yourself putting yourself in a situation where there is a risk of a complication and you're in another country. And this is what I will keep talking to you guys about complications can happen.

Sometimes it's minor complications. It's, you know, a suture that didn't get dissolved, you know, is being spit out or, you know, an implant that maybe your body just didn't like it and is rejecting it. And now you are in the U S and your surgeon is in another country, you know, and those things can happen. So Yvonne , what I want you to tell our listeners is all of this happened to you. And what was the legal

And they know that they're not properly licensed or trained to perform surgeries or certain surgeries that, you know, they haven't really properly evaluated a patient, whether or not they are a good candidate for it, whether they can actually, you know, it's safe to perform these many surgeries. These things fall on the surgeon because he's the expert at the end of the day.

But if he's not properly licensed or certified, and he misleads you and leaves you botched that I don't believe there needs to be something out there to protect women. What we could do ourselves is definitely do better research. But, you know,

So tell us, you know, it was malpractice and now you, okay, what

And then when you try to seek justice, not knowing who to turn to or where to go, you know, you are dealing with a foreign country where there's the language barrier that you don't speak the language. So you don't really, it's not like getting, you know, picking up the phone and calling different, you know, calling the board over here or calling a lawyer over here. You know, you don't have that language.

And then you don't really know the rules and the laws and how to properly research someone's qualifications or a lawyer out there. So that part in itself was very challenging for me. And then not knowing how many years or months you have to bring the lawsuit. Can I bring the lawsuit in the U S can I bring a lawsuit in Mexico? Like there is a lot of that in you already dealing with recovering and trying to heal from the trauma. And now you're adding in another element into the healing equation.

That it's very, very difficult. Um, and you know, and then another layer

You know, you're getting rejected by surgeons here, then you don't know who to turn to. And then when you think you find a lawyer, that lawyer also prays on you, you know, in another country, in another country, you know, I, I met a lawyer who, you know, sounded very confident and willing to help and knowledgeable, but little did. I know that they weren't knowledgeable. They didn't know what the statute of limitation is. And, and then they try to scam me out of money. Like , it's like, what am

If you have complications, you have to go there and get treatments there. You know, it takes a toll on your body. And plastic surgery is such a life changing surgery, and it's so difficult as it is. And you throw in all these other elements in, you know, it's like today, I looked at myself and I'm like, I've been through a lot. I've been through a lot.

And like, I have to like, look at myself and say like, you know how strong I am, because I've gone through so many obstacles, just , you know, aside from the injury, everything else is like, you know, but I'm so committed to healing mentally, emotionally, and physically that, you know, at this point, if my story can help others, then I want to share it.

And that's what people need to really understand being a certified surgeon and aesthetic surgeon, when it comes to a foreign country, don't interpret that, how they want you to interpret that, do the research and really understand what does it really mean? And are they specialized in the specific surgery that you want and do the research and then take everything else into consideration as well?

There is another, you know, as , as I went through what I went through, I later found this Instagram page that actually had other women's stories that were botched by him. And it was, it was shocking to me because to me, it looks like this is a pattern in so many women are suffering. And then, you know, if anybody wants to check it out that page, I think the name of it is I'm going to tag it, to

So to be able to talk about these experiences, I, I think it does take a lot of courage. And as women, my hope is that not only, you know, you look out for yourself and you do the research, but when you hear other people's story, just be more compassionate and less judgemental , and really understand that none of us deserve it regardless if you did, or didn't do the proper research. None of it deserves to go through something like this.

And, you know, it's so important that we support each other because at the end of the day, all we all want is we want to love ourselves, you know, and accept ourselves. So

We're all just trying to look better. And if something like this can happen, and I can only imagine if you get hate messages or if you get any type of like judgemental comments about doing your research or anything like that, when I'm telling you, I'm really, I'm not being judgemental . I get it. I understand that. And I think it's predatory practices and I've been, that's what I warn you guys about. And I tell you guys don't fall for these predatory practices.

Don't fall for these tactics because this isn't right. So you hit them .

You know, you got to do research, you have to look to see if you don't know how to check someone's certification in another country, then don't go to that country, period. If you are not going to be, if you don't know how to do it, you know, just protect yourself at the end of the day. You know, you, you're the one that's going to fight for yourself. No one else is I want it.

I do also want to point out that specifically with my surgery. He took photos of me. And, you know, as , as other surgeons do, when you're on the surgery table, but the ones that he actually posted on his page are Photoshop and edited. And you can clearly see that as I'm laying on the bed, my bruises are smudged. The darkness has been lightened. So it doesn't appear to be

This is what it leaves you bruised on the table like this. Like, if y'all look at the liposuction before and afters of surgeons here, you don't see too much bruising. The bruising doesn't usually come out until like day three, like the real, real, like intense bruising or date day two or three. But

Like this is not what you expect to see on the surgery table. And another thing that I wanted us to talk about that I have on this botched page, there was screenshots of messages from other women who have been botched by this doctor. I read the comments or I read of the messages and they , one lady said something along the lines of, she woke up during the surgery and she could hear the surgeons talking and it wasn't him. It was two other surgeons, two assistant surgeons.

And the guy was saying something along the lines of [inaudible] tummy tucks as [inaudible] , which means these tummy tucks are a lot of work. Huh. And he was talking to his colleague and that makes me think like, okay, what, wait, where's your sir , where's the surgeon, these two guys, what are they doing? Right. What are they? Who , who are these other two people? Because because

surgical assistants don't do liposuction. And then that touches on another subject that is super hot on fire right now that I've been talking to you guys on Instagram about the surgeon who you are meeting is not the surgeon doing your surgery. And this is happening more and more. And this is the type of stuff that I'm trying to warn you guys against. Like that should not be happening. You should not be meeting your surgeon the day of your surgery and then not seeing him again.

And this is what I want y'all to take away. If anything, from this whole conversation, besides do your homework is you want this surgeon or this relationship to be like open, like almost how you would want your marriage trust. You want to trust them. You want to know that what you are signing up for is what you're getting. You know, you look at your consents, you look at your pictures, they're very detailed in everything. Your quote is very detailed. You don't feel pressured.

You feel more like a, this is a process. And that's what I want you guys to have. Every, every interaction with your surgeon should be, you know, them being very forward with any information that you need or answering your questions. You don't want to feel like you're hurried. And I can tell you all that in Houston, the practices that I worked for were very busy.

And sometimes we would get, you know, 45 minutes, an hour behind schedule, but our patients never complained or they didn't mind it because they knew that once they were in that room and the doctor was in there, they had his undivided unlimited attention. If they had 10 questions to get answered, if they had 30 questions, they needed answered. He was gonna stay in there.

Or she was going to stay in there until they were all answered in year at the end, like any anymore , any, anything else, anything else you need. And that's when they would walk out. And that's what I want for y'all.

And your life is either going to change in a good way, or it's going to send you into a completely different world that you never thought you'd be in. So it's like, don't, don't hesitate to ask questions directly from them. And some of the things I feel like, you know, if I knew, then I probably would have thought not probably, but I would not have chosen to do the surgery with him. But some of the things that people need to ask also is how many surgeries a day does a surgeon perform?

And I've heard of a board certified surgeon in the USA , that it is physically impossible for any surgeon to perform. And you can correct me if I'm wrong. But what he said was that, you know, if, if a surgeon tells you that they do more than maybe two or three a day, then someone else is also in there doing surgeries that physically it is impossible for a surgeon to perform these many surgeries. And you know, so many surgeries in one day plus make time for patient consultations .

Plus make time for post-op appointments with patients plus makes time for paperwork and all of that. So when anyone says to you that they do so many a day, you want to think twice because especially in foreign countries, it can happen maybe more often than he or someone else could be operating on you. Other than the surgeon you hired and paid for to do the surgery. Other questions are, you know, where is the surgery performed?

Is it in the clinic, a private clinic, or is it in a hospital that's accredited? Is the anesthesiologist licensed? You know, those things are really important that we don't think about those questions. We walk into a situation just trusting. We have to really be mindful that our life is at risk with surgeries. And if you're paying out of pocket, you have every right, and you should not only do research, but ask questions and don't be hesitant to ask.

And if something rubs you the wrong way, keep looking for another surgeon,

But when they use that excitement and adrenaline, that you're feeling at your initial consultation and they can push you to sign up for surgery. And you guys know always, always, always my recommendation is you see three surgeons do not sign up for anything until you've seen three different plastic surgeons with three different styles.

And once you've had their quote, look over their quote and I've actually had with the one-on-one coaching, we've had patients who come, okay, now I've had my three quotes. Now let's look at them together and I can help them. You know, look at the before and after pictures, look at their goals and then look at the three surgeons that they've already visited and see, who's probably going to give them the best result.

And that also gives me a chance to vet the surgeon and kind of look at, check them out, check out their website, check out the wording on their websites, because y'all don't know about the wording on cosmetic surgeons, plastic surgeons, all of that stuff. So there's a lot of work that needs to be done when you're choosing your plastic surgeon. It's not honestly, you guys, it's not easy. It's not like, oh yeah, this guy, you know, he can do it. I'm sure he can. He'll do a great job.

It's not like that. And I tell ya, it's more than liking the pictures so much more than liking the before and after pictures. Savannah , I wanted to mention in that group, Dr. Dela POS botched us . There's also pictures of his posts where you can clearly see black sutures all over. Like this was a rhinoplasty and you could see these thick black sutures in her nose. And it was like, oh my God, look how beautiful this nose is, was like that comment. But in my mind, I'm like screaming, oh really?

These big thick , black sutures in a nose that that's going to leave train marks. You know, those scars where you can see, they look like train, train tracks,

You know , um , from my understanding and some of the research I've done, there's so many ways to close up alone and you know, and there are ways that are, if one is not pro they're not using the proper tools or outdated technique, or they're just negligent. Like you really want to look at that because then it will determine what your recovery and final results will be as well. You know? And so you have to really pay attention. Are they really doing a big

This is about how was it distributed and was it distributed correctly? You don't get to see that until down the line. So you have to also not get so excited about some of the photos that we see when they're taken immediately after surgery, because that does not determine the final results and the quality, the true quality of the work that he's done on you.

And these are the questions that y'all don't know to ask. But if you had me as your coach, I would be asking on the day of surgery or before, when we're getting closed, I'd ask, you know, how many surgeries are on the schedule for that day? What number am I going to be? And that's something that I personally would want to be number. I want to be the first one of the day,

There is something happening in Florida and it's spreading where, you know, these big financial companies are coming in and they're buying plastic surgery practices and they are setting up, you know, Hey, just like some places, I'm not going to say any names, but some places that we all know in Miami or in Florida, they have great results. They're super busy. They have Cuban doctors. They have Puerto Rican doctors. They have Colombian doctors. They have all types of doctors from everywhere.

And what we're finding out or with slowly has been leaking, what's been going around what I've , what the whispers have been is that these financing companies are coming in and they need numbers. They need, we need to produce, we need to produce numbers. And that's what's happening. People are being pushed into surgeries because there's quotas that need to be met. And this is all new. This is not, this has not been happening. This is new.

Like in the last few years where finance companies, large financial institutions have their hands in plastic surgery practices and they should not because they're pushing for numbers. They're pushing for quantity, not quality. And they have surgeons who are not supposed to be doing surgery, doing surgery under another surgeons license .

For example, eman talked to us about this last week where she found out that there was surgeons, that her, that were surgical assistants, they were surgeons and other countries, and they're coming here and they're taking positions as surgical assistants with another doctor at the front as the, the surgeon that the patients are meeting. And then the surgical assistants are doing the surgery.

That sounds kind of what happened to you and TJ, you met with one guy, but were those other two , uh, surgical assistants or assistants , the ones who actually did your surgery,

You know, I've seen situations where I've heard situations where the surgeon is over there, like, you know, filming the surgery where while someone else's, or that, you know, there are clinics where they actually train people to perform surgeries.

So the one that's doing a surgery on you could be a trainee and not the surgeon himself, like things like that, that , uh , you know, I don't know if it took place where I had mine, but I've heard from other women stories that they've experienced, things like that, or later learned that that happened, which actually I do want to mention that too, with , with the social media, it's really disappointing because I feel like to some extent, our privacy doesn't really exist, you know, have turned

their social media page into like an ad, a marketing, a commercial, you know, and there's so like excited and hyped about getting content and PR and shooting live surgeries. When a patient is completely sedated and under and not aware of what's happening and their tattoos are showing whatever. It's like, I feel like there needs to be more respect and privacy to women.

I feel like this whole BBL and 360 live phone call that has become so popular, that those that, like you said, are trying to just get numbers are not worried about quality and all that. It's like, there's no integrity anymore in it. There's no trust. And I feel like it's unfair. Like there needs to be some level of privacy rather than trying to like exploit on some women and putting all these just such private moments on social media.

You know, your page, shouldn't be an advertisement for, you know, surgeries all the time. It could be educational too.

You're authorizing us to use your before and after pictures on our website, you are authorizing us to use your before and after pictures on the internet, on social media. So all of these consents need to be done before a patient is our patient's picture ends up on the internet late here in America. That's not happening. That shouldn't be happening.

If it's happening, the doctors who are allowing it or who are doing it can get in very serious trouble, like losing their license type of trouble for, you know, breaking HIPPA laws. So I know here in the U S it's that's , it shouldn't be happening, but I know the countries like Mexico or the Dr. Or Columbia where there , they are posting pictures of women under anesthesia. And sometimes they don't have the consent. And I mean, I don't even know what, what can you do at that point?

You know, in my case, if I try to post photos of what I've gone through for educational purposes only, you know, the social media will they'll, they'll take it off. They'll say that I'm in violation of community guidelines when there is nothing in my photo that promotes whatever violence abuse, but you are seeing the reality, the reality of what if, and it's so critical that we show those things and not just what we want to see or what we hope for in terms of results.

But I constantly get like, you know, get into this place where, when I want to share my story and really help other people and really shed light on what this roller coaster can be for others too . My photos are flagged for the wrong reasons. And I wish that there was a little bit more freedom and a way for, for women who that go through something like this, to be able to speak up and feel like they have a platform to do that.

And it's really unfortunate that, you know, with the social media era, like we can too , because the wrong picture will be removed or get our page deactivated or whatever the case is. And I wish that it wasn't the case because I feel like it takes so much courage to speak up. But I feel like the photos are just as valuable as the story. And you know, it's just,

So with that in mind, I created, when I launched the podcast, I have my own website and I have a blog that you can use Savannah to write your, you write your story and we can post the pictures and we can share it and nobody can take it down because it belongs to me and we can share it. We can share the article, we can share the pictures and they'll, they'll never be taken down. I won't take them down. They'll live there forever.

For as long as you want to tell your story, they'll live there and people can find them. And I mean, that's really the only thing we can do create. That's the only answer to I have for you, like in a critical thinking type of way is create your own website. And you have to use your voice on your website to raise awareness. You can use social media to guide people to your website, but nothing that we put on social media belongs to us. Unfortunately it belongs to Instagram or Facebook or Tik TOK.

Right ? So the takeaway, I want you to tell our listeners, tell, talk to them like, they're your best friend and they're thinking about getting plastic surgery.

And if you think you've done enough research research, again, don't overlook or dismiss the negative reviews, pay attention to those specifically, like read the details in the story, you know, try to be more compassionate and less judgemental . Also understand your own health condition. What do you think you can handle?

Like what's your BMI, what's your weight, you know, and make sure that you go over that with whatever surgeon that you consider, think about the travel, think about, you know, what happens if something goes wrong? Like, how is it going to be when I come back to the U S and try to seek treatment, are doctors going to be leery and even treating what is going to be my long-term effect? There's just so many elements that people don't think about.

I'm two years post-surgery and every day is a struggle. Every day. I have to look in the mirror and be reminded of what this man has done to me and that something that I already disliked about myself now, I, you know, I don't wanna use the word hate, but now I have to look at it and hate it. You know what I mean? Like you go from disliking your body in hopes of loving it and accepting it to having the complete opposite effect. And you have to live with it every day.

And it doesn't matter if I do or don't get surgery, like the damage, the trauma will always be there. And the recovery, the mental and emotional recovery is so much harder and longer than the physical recovery. I still try every day to heal from it. My life has not been the same. And, but I'm determined to heal. I'm determined to, to share my story with others. So I just want people to be mindful of that. Like never think it's not gonna happen to you.

And when you decide to have this surgery done, never compromise and give a discount to the value of your life. If that makes sense, you know what I'm saying? Like, just put yourself in the absolute best hands that you can and just do, do the research and, and, you know, my hope is that no other woman go through any experience like that. Um, you know, I , I just, you know, we, I, I wish all of us can just live in a society where we just love ourselves as it is.

And we just, you know, and that's that Tino, but as my hope for everyone is to just really do your research and at least love yourself enough to say I won't compromise and set boundaries and know that these are, this is what you're looking for in a surgeon and make sure that it's not based on just price alone.

And I want one of y'all to send it to your mom or tear, and or to your cousin, whoever is thinking of going down to the border to get some work done. I've had patients who went down for a upper eyelid blepharoplasty, where they cut the little skin above your eye, your eyelid, so that it doesn't hang over your eyelashes. And they cut too much. And she came to see us because she couldn't close her eye . So now she has dry eye. She can't like her . I only closed like halfway.

So like, and that is really difficult to fix. Like, how do we fix that? This skin is cut off. You know, these are the things that I'm like, you guys, it's difficult to fix these things once they're done, they're done. I had another one. Okay. This is something that I saw on that, on that Dr. Della POS page, where the women are having such bad capsular, contracture after getting implants. And what it is is it's a dirty implant . It's dirty technique.

So y'all hear us here in the U S talk about no touch technique with the Keller funnel, which is when they insert that plastic into the incision, and they do not touch the implant at all. So it's been in this, you know, iodine solution. They clean it out, they clean your pocket out and they do not touch anything. And they put the implant, so it all up.

And they do that to minimize the possibility for capsular contracture and some of these women that I'm seeing on these pages for Mexico, where they've been botched. So many of them have capsular contracture, and it's just because it's dirty technique. And it's like, what do you, what can I tell you guys? It's dirty technique. You're getting it because it's something is being done during the surgery that is causing it.

Another thing I want to tell you guys, before we sign off is the same doctor who's doing your gastric sleeve should not be doing your tummy tuck. So it is not an all-in-one service. Oh yeah. This place I get my gastric sleeve. And then I come back and I, they do my, they remove my skin and make me look good. It's a specialty . Like, think about it. It's a specialty. Would you take your car? You would take your car to a mechanic. Right.

But would you take your car to a hairdresser and be like, Hey, can you fix my car? I know it's not your specialty, but can you fix it? Uh, well, yeah, I guess I can do it a mechanic. You wouldn't take your hair to a mechanic. The , yeah, they can cut it, but is it going to be done well, is it going to be a good haircut? Probably not. And it's the same thing with these specialties in surgery.

Like they can be related, for example, an an ENT micro surgeon, plastic surgeon, that's common general surgeons who do like bariatric surgeries and then decide that, oh yeah. Now I can capture that patient on the, on the other surgery as well. Now I can cut that skin off too . And you guys look at those pictures, some of these I showed ya . Some of these I showed y'all on Instagram. That lady didn't even have a belly button. Like what?

And these are the things that I see over here that y'all don't know, this has been happening for years. And I know I have some ladies in my DMS right now who have appointments set up already in Mexico. And I have friends who have gone to Mexico and have had great surgeries, but they're not one they're not going to the border. They're going like deep into Mexico. And they're looking for like top of the top surgeons, you know, in these big metropolitan cities.

And so when you think of all these other elements that have now, you know, come into your life, like, oh, I'm having some complications, but I don't speak the language. I have to travel all the time. You know, people here don't want to treat me because I did it in another country. Like think of those things too, and how that can affect your healing process too. That's an additional stress you're putting on your body.

And this is not a surgery that you need to be adding more stress to when you're recovering. So, you know, I'm not saying don't do it overseas . My PR like for me, my personal advice would be just think of all of those things as a whole, and then make a decision that is truly based on, you know, logic and research and what works for you. And not just solely on just the price that you might get somewhere else, you know? Yeah .

So if you're thinking about it and you're a little, you know, nervous, or you have some feelings of being uneasy well, for one, if you're feeling uneasy, give it some time don't don't schedule or book right away, give it a few weeks, give it a month or so before you jump into it, once you process all of those feelings and questions and all of that. But if you have questions you can always ask.

And I used to do this for my patients all the time is you want to talk to somebody who just, you know, went through this, you know, a few months ago, or do you want to talk somebody who's in their post-op period so that they can, you know , talk to you about how that was or how their recovery was, what they felt.

And I feel like patients really appreciate that when you can connect to patients who had very similar surgeries and they can ask, and she, the possible patient can ask the post-op patient questions. It helps, you know, ease because some of those maybe you're asking like, Hey, you know, what time was your surgery? And if they tell you, oh, it was at six o'clock, you're already going to be like, okay, that's , that's weird. Why so late?

Okay. Those, some other questions like, oh, how often did you see the year a surgeon after your surgery? If they say, oh, I saw him every time I came in. Oh , okay, well that's good. Or they say, oh no, I only saw him the day of surgery. Then you would be like, okay, that's weird. I don't like that. And you know, these types of questions, you can ask a previous patient.

And if the doctor that you're working with doesn't want you, or doesn't doesn't have any previous patients that you can talk to. I would still look for another surgeon because I can tell y'all, there's two types of patients. There's the patient that doesn't want anybody to know. And then there's a patient that wants everybody to know. And the one that wants everybody to know, we'll talk to your previous patients. I've had a few that I knew they were good with talking to other people.

So anytime I had somebody that was, you know, had questions like, Hey, let , let , I'll let you talk to one of our patients. Here you go. And it always helped and answered a lot of the uneasiness. Yeah ,

And looking back, and from just my personal experience, if I can just, you know, my personal choice, if I knew better, I would have done better. And there is a sense of like, there's this sense of peace. And knowing that you've got , for me , it , anything happens even the smallest that you are at least in your home town, in your country, and you know where to turn to, should something go wrong.

And if I had to do it all over again, I would have just stayed in the U S only not because there's not a great surgeon somewhere else, but that peace of mind is just like knowing that there's somewhere to turn to, and you know, how to move around is very, very important. And that wasn't the case and it just made it more difficult.

So , um, you know, when you guys think about going somewhere because of less strict rules or whatever, there's a reason for that, but at least, you know, if it happens here, you know, you can contact the board or you can contact whoever, or , you know , you know, when it gets out there is just so difficult, you know,

So a lot of surgeons are turning away from, you know, even offering to achieve that look and one round and they're leaning more towards, no, this is going to be maybe a two or three round BBL. And it's because they're not going to be injecting fat underneath the muscle, which underneath the muscle, it's like a spider web of important veins, capillaries, you know, a lot of really important stuff in there. And fat can be injected incorrectly into one of those. And that's how it happens.

And any time where there is a death associated with a surgery period, it's a tragic, tragic, tragic case. And it's so hurtful to so many people, but it's the family and you guys, the surgeons there , they're humans, like, you know, we're all just trying to do our best. Maybe sometimes there's some bad motive behind what we're doing, but even for a surgeon who has a death on the table, like that stuff stays with you and it eats you up. And it like it's hurtful to them.

And it's, I mean, as, as tragic to them, as it is to the family, you know, and this isn't something that we should just look over and pretend, oh, it's not happening because it is happening. And there's a lot more regulation. I believe that needs to be done on who should be performing BBLs and who should be performing plastic surgery in general, there should be some more regulation and touching on the social media here in America.

You, if you, for example, if I were to go online and be, Hey, I'm a board certified plastic surgeon, like there would be an uproar and there could be like, Hey, you got to take that down. That's incorrect. You can't be doing that. But what about in other countries, when they're saying they're board certified plastic surgeons? Cause that guy, his page says board certified plastic surgeon who is regulating that nobody. So they can say whatever they want.

They can say they're a board certified surgeon, so we need to do our homework. And, you know, I want y'all to know that I wish y'all could know everything that I know and everything that I've seen, and then use that to make your decisions on who to do your plastic surgery.

But unfortunately y'all, can't take my brain, but I can share with y'all everything that I've heard, everything that I've learned, everything that I'm being told by patients, that way you can make a better decision and it's not, oh, I wish I would've known that. I wish I would've known this or whatever, because I'm telling you the information, you can just Google it here in America, but not in other countries. Yeah .

So continue to speak up and speak your truth because little do you know, there's so many people out there that are listening and , and , and are appreciative of just knowing what you've gone through. So for anyone out there that's hurting or that have , has gone through something like this, I do want to encourage you to speak up because it will also help you heal more than, you know. So

And I have no judgment on any of these women, but I've seen women in full on bathing suits after their BBLs where , and you know, they've had it in Miami or in somewhere down there in Florida and the, yeah, the pictures look great. But for my train dye , I'm looking at it and I can see that the fat was not placed properly in the hips. And it looks like a bulge hanging down here by the mid thigh.

And these are things when you go into too aggressive, fat transfer, like too much fat transfer, I've seen it. You want to look good in person. Okay? You guys y'all want to look good in person, not just on Instagram. So in person, your butt probably looks good or it looks like a good BBL. You don't have to go for the extra, just for the pictures. You don't have to.

That fat is going to stay there forever for as long as you are, I'm that fat's going to be there and it's going to grow and it's going to shrink normally like your normal fat would . And how is it going to look in 25 or 30 years? How are those big, you know, heaps of fat that are in the mid thigh or in the lower hip? How is that going to look, you know, later on when your skin doesn't have the elasticity that it does now.

So as much as I want everybody to, you know, do whatever you want, make yourself happy. If you want to get a three X BBL, do it girl, but just be cognizant and just think about it.

I couldn't lay on the sides because he injected fat to the legs instead of the hips, you know, it's like your body can only take so much and be mindful of that. You know, love yourself enough to also allow yourself to go through this in stages, if you need to, because you know, like your body is that like, you know, a machine that you could just like put through a shredder and it'll just put itself back together.

You know, from one procedure, I talked about this yesterday. How, when you're deciding between multiple procedures, do the procedure, that's going to give you the most dramatic change. And for some women and for most women, that's their abdomen.

And after kids, maybe they need a tummy tuck or maybe they want to do light , both 360 BBL, but doing the procedure, that's going to be the most dramatic in what you can wear, because you can put your, you can put your B cups in a push-up bra and you know, you can't put your stomach in a push-up bra. Like you need it gone. So that's what I mean, when I'm saying different procedures yesterday, I told y'all you can do a tummy tuck.

And then all of a sudden now you're like, wow, I don't even need implants. Now my breasts fit perfectly with my frame. You know, now they look bigger because my stomach is flatter and that happens a lot. But imagine if you had done the breast augmentation at the same time, now your breasts would have looked too big because your frame's a lot smaller. So those are all things that you have to think about when you are planning your surgery. And that's it savant .

I appreciate you so much for coming on and talking to us, I've been telling these girls, you know, there's a lot more out there that y'all don't know of. It's not just what you're seeing on Instagram. It's not just, you know, happy-go-lucky every single time there is complications that arise. There is unethical people out there doing that they shouldn't be sorry, but it's the truth. And they are, and this [inaudible] is just one of them, but there's a lot like him.

And I almost want to say like people or facilities along the Texas, Mexico border, or maybe even, I don't know about the board , the TJ and Arizona and New Mexico border. I don't know how it is down over there. But I know here in Texas, those facilities down there, they're almost like chop shops and you guys stay away from the chop shops. Like there is some really good ethical plastic surgeons here in Houston within a five mile radius of each other. There's like 50 of them. I promise you.

We can find somebody that can give you the results that you want within your budget and just stay away from the chop shops . Yeah .

When you, after you have your plastic surgery, where you feel more confident, you push yourself more, you're more, you're more of a risk taker and you just build your self-esteem and you are more adventurous. And all of these things don't happen overnight. It's your confidence and your self-esteem and you know, the happiness with yourself, it builds along with time, but also there needs to be a lot of inner work done with not just, oh, I'm going to have surgery and I'm going to look great.

And I'm going to love myself. That's not how it works. Like you actually have to do the inner work to accept and love yourself exactly how you are, because it's a very slippery slope to go from one surgery to another, to another, to another, to another, to another, to another, to another where I'm , I've had ladies in front of me that are pointing at something that with my trained eye, I don't see. And it's a very slippery slope.

And I've had, you know, we, I am working on an episode with a clinical therapist to kind of help us distinguish a body dysmorphia and you know, just wanting to have more, where is the line? That's really what I want to know. But anyways, all right, you guys, I, this is probably our longest episode yet. We just had a lot to talk about, but I hope you've found subhan story helpful. Insightful.

And you guys just know that it's not always what it seems like on social media and you think, oh, nobody's complaining. They are complaining. They're just getting blocked. And y'all don't know that. So now y'all do know .

So I do want to say thank you and thank you for allowing me to share my story and for contributing to my own healing, because this is also helping me. So I just want to say thank you and applaud you for what you're doing, because it takes a lot of courage, passion , and commitment to, to really, you know, stand up for women and be willing to be so candid and open with everyone. So I just want to say, thank you.

And I hope that everyone else that that does listen , it helps them as well, find some compassion and , and really just, we all learn to just support each other and , and just stand up for each other.

Botched is, you know, it's that something could go wrong and that's what people are so afraid of. And what I'm my purpose here is to tell you guys, there's always a possibility of something happening, a complication happening, something happening. There's always a possibility, but when you do your homework and when you take the steps to try to prevent them, you know, you lessen your opportunity for something bad to happen

Do I continue to beat myself or can I try to use my experience and my story to help educate others and bring some, you know , shed some light on the reality that not many maybe aware of. And so that's why I always encourage people to just support each other and be less judgmental because we do that on a regular basis. But I, with support,

You know, they have systems down and it's very easy to fall prey when you don't know what to look for. And Yvonne , you brought up a lot of red flags that now our listeners can be like, okay, that's a red flag with some, if that happens to me now, I know, you know, so you're using your voice and you made the right decision in deciding to use your voice for awareness, to spread awareness. You're doing the right thing. And I'm so proud of you. You're such a warrior for coming on and talking to us.

And I hope we can spread the word. We'll put the pictures up on the website for everybody to see and share and spread the awareness. And that's it. Thank you. Thank you for coming on. All right, guys, I'll see you all next week. I would like to end this episode with a huge thank you to all of our listeners. If you enjoyed this podcast, make sure to subscribe to big buts , no live podcast and follow us on Instagram at big butts , no lies podcast .

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