Beating The Book: The Week 14 NFL Guessing Lines Show with Vinny Magliulo

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Today on the show Guessing Lines Week fourteen, National Football League, Vinny will be in here for Chrissie Mannie Malulu and for the great Christie Andrews, director of the South Point Sports Book Hotel Casino, um Or Sports at the south Point Hotel Casino Sports Book UM. Vinny will be here momentarily.

We will talk Guessing Lines week fourteen again another nod, another tribute to the old stardust radio show of the same name back in the day with Roxy Roxborough um, where we will try to isolate value and upcoming lines. I've been at a cocoon. I don't know the lines last couple of weeks, Kelly, Kelly Bidlin here Yes today, laies and gentlemen, once again as my my stop gap producer trying. Happy Monday to you, Gil Bridge in the gap. Happy Monday to you man, although I know this isn't

a Monday for you. You worked all weekend long. Yeah, this is like Friday, Saturday, Sunday combined sort of thing. I guess from today. That's all right? Um, wait, where was I going with this again? Oh? Yeah, um a couple of last couple of weeks guessing line. I've been outraged by two different lines each of these two weeks. Two weeks ago, it was an outrageous Colts line when minus nine against the Dolphins. I was like, you gotta be kidding me. It was like five five, five six

points off. Colts needed everything to win that game, wanted at the end. And then the Redskins I had him at six as the dogs against the Cowboys. Vinnie told me was eight and a half. I was outraged by that. Redskins lost by eight. If you got it early, got that this week. We split on the outrage lines this past week. Um, the one that I was correctly outraged

about was the Jets. Tennessee was giving nine against the Jets, and we get kidding me, like Tennessee shouldn't be a nine point favorite or anybody they do end up winning. Tennessee does hit for teaser folks. Uh, they trailed the entire game, only lead at the end. Uh. The line that I was outraged by that didn't turn out to be justified in my outrage with was the Atlanta Baltimore line.

I thought Atlanta should be the favorite. Atlanta did end up being the favorite after Vinnie told me Baltimore was the favorite when we did this a week ago, and then Baltimore proceeded to just we'll get into the details of all the games yesterday. That was a surprise to me, and that was that that was a loser for me for the weekend. Uh. It was, but I and I don't know exactly your thought process on it, Buddy. To me,

it was. And Lamar Jackson's implosion game is coming at some point, so I'm going to keep faith until that happens. And yesterday we saw glimpses of it, right, he had the fumble that then turned into a touchdown. You see, you're always gonna get the great and the bad with with Lamar And And I know this a little bit because because I covered him all throughout his high school career, even before he got into college. So yeah, so I know I know him from way back then. So I'm

as much as I love the guy. He's got a great arm, incredible talent. We know what he can do. An implosion game or two is going to come once some tape gets down on the guy and people kind of get to know what he's doing. So for me, it's a little bit more fade Baltimore and yes, Atlanta's at home. Matt Ryan's great. I know that offense can do what they do. They either get a few stops, maybe that's a winner. But yeah, I went the other

way on me yesterday. And I just want to point out, because I've been beating this drum for the last couple of weeks. Here's again live audio of John Harbaugh talking to Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco saying, hey, my hips great, John Harper saying, uh no, your hips still hurts. No trust made hurts. No, No, really is good. No, No, still hurts Joe. And that's gonna happen. That's gonna happen. That's gonna happen again this week. Uh, it's what you do.

Raise a point there though, that we don't harp on enough, which is handicappers um as sports bettors. While I was watching Chase Daniel and the and the Bears yesterday, I was secretly hoping the Bears would end up winning that and then Chase would play again, so you could just bet the house against it, because I felt the same way about him as you are saying about Lamar Jos,

because I think I don't know how Chase Daniel. First of all, how they won that game against the Troy was a pick six obviously, but yesterday how they got the ball down field to actually tie that after the onside kick was just or even prior to uh that, that drive as well, it's just amazing. Uh and to me was an outlier. So who knows, it'll probably be

tribisky next week anyway. Yeah, I'm big on you, you know, especially when we talk you know court new quarterbacks or or or you know, guys coming in or like like that or if there, if I'm looking at specific spots, it is funny how you're you may lay off one week just knowing that you want X to happen because you're gonna bet that you know, bet a ton and the following week when they play that, you know, play

the next team. So it's funny when you're you're rooting for someone to do well one week because you know or you want them to crash and burn the next week. That's kind of how we think before we get to Viny. Because Vinny has come in studio. Hello, Vinny, how are you? Let's start. We'll turn Nny's Mike on at some point Vinny mole La Ladies and gentlemen, or in for Christy Andrews here on a on a Monday guesting lines for week fourteen, Vinny Molilo, or as chrisy Onants called him,

Vinnie Mayo Leo. He's only known him for like three decades or more. Viny Mao Leo. I love yeah all NFL. Then again, tonight Eagles six point favorites over the Redskins, big implications in the National Football Conference Eastern Division. If the Skins win, they will be in a tie record

wise with the Cowboys. Those two teams, having split their two games this year, both would be at seven and five, and that would effectively put the Eagles not not mathematically eliminated, but that would they'd be done so at that point as the defending Super Bowl champions, would take a miracle for them to overcome the two game deficit with four games left against two different teams, that is if the If the Eagles win, obviously the Cowboys would have a

one game lead then over both the Redskins and the Eagles. Here's the thing about this that is a bit of a surprise, not a complete surprise, but a mild upset, is that the Redskins look like they're going to have a Chris Thompson back tonight, which Chris Thompson and Jamison crowd Are both practiced last this this past week, and

they practiced Wednesday and Thursday. Thompson looks like he's definitely playing and Chris Thompson is the Redskins most dynamic offensive player period With apologies to Jordan Reed, Jamison Crowded, their slot receiver maybe back tonight, So again, be sure to check the inactives prior to game time. We won't know

for sure until this afternoon. But that's a big deal. Um, I wouldn't be too quick, in other words, to lay those six points, is what I'm getting at, because again, this is the Skins team that has been decimated by injuries on the offensive side of the football, both on the line as we've documented and in their skill position players. So they could be getting or they will be getting one back tonight if not two of those guys. You

know what's interesting. A week ago we were talking about the possibility or a strong likelihood of a three way tie in in the in the NFC East, right, because the Cowboys were a significant dog at home Thursday night against the Saints. They took care of business there, so they're certainly remain in the driver's seat. UM really puts more uh of an emphasis on this game tonight, right because, as you said, Gil, I mean, especially if it's if the Eagles lose this game tonight, I just don't like,

I don't see it happen. I mean, they were already in a in a tough spot, but Eagles trying to avoid Vinnie becoming the eighteenth team and a fifty two Super Bowl champions are fifty one would be fifty two Super Bowl champions not to make the postseason the next year. By the way, Jamison Crowder has missed seven games for the Skins with an ankle injury. Chris Thompson has missed six games with rib injury. Separate rib injuries for the

Washington Redskins. Head against it tonight. Vinnie in for Chrissie this morning, Chrissie and you have been on the horn once again. Chrissie on the on the horn listening right now. Called in the finals with and supervisor Lou Vargin. Put them in. They're up, They're in, They're in. I've got the openers for you, buddy. All right, let's do Thursday night and we'll go to break after that, alright. In earnest boys, the Jacksonville Jaguars at the Tennessee Titans. Jacksonville

Jaguars Tennessee Titans. A little bit different matchup than we had last Thursday. Yeah, that's the little Also a little different from that Monday night game that preceded. Um Jacksonville at Tennessee a f C South. Jacksonville gets off the channid yesterday. Cody Kessler eight one fifty in the Jaguars sixth nothing win over the Colts, a defensive machine, no touchdowns, no picks for Zack three times, A little questionable at

the end of that game with the time expiring. Yeah, now, shouldn't have come down to that, but certainly looked like uh Colts receiver and I forgot which receiver it was, but he looked like he was out of bounce Swoop. They were going to have one more shot at the end zone there. Yeah, when Vine's referring to. By the way, the the Jaguars not only win it out right obviously,

they cover his four and a half point dogs. Jalen Ramsey, who earlier in the game had reached out and briefly offered to help Andrew Luck off the ground at one point, only to quickly withdraw his hand and walk away with a little psych saw that move the allway is charming. Jalen Ramsey. Ramsey hit Eric Swoop what you're referring to, Vinny near the sideline at the end of a third and six um what turned out to be a game ending play at the Jacksonville twenty nine Jacksonville twenty nine

yard line. Colts had no time outs and the tight ends seemed to land out of bounds, but official right there, right on the spot ruled that swoops forward progress had been stopped. That kept the clock running. Colts out of time. Ounts can only watch the clock wind down. Jags win at six to nothing. Big loss for the Colts. Following they fall now three games out of first place in the a f C South with four left. So that's

the Texans division to win at this point. Jack stopping a seven game losing streak, snapping a Indianapolis five game winning streak in the process. Colts very much still in the a f C wild Card picture. Cody Kesler's first win in nine career starts. He did have one interception, drop managed to wrestle a way a fumble of his own.

A lot of things went their way at Tennessee. Tennessee was down big to the Jets, came all the way back win it in the end with what about the thirty five seconds to go thirty six seconds alright, Marcus Mario levin yard touchdown past the Corey Davis with thirty six seconds left. Titans rally from a six point deficit, beat the Jets. Two teasers cash, but they do not cover Jets cover. Remember that was one of my outrage you did, and I was going to bring that up.

What's interesting you had said, because this the Titans at nine and a half, Right, I was like, they shouldn't be favored by that over anybody. But you want to know something, they didn't. It's not like they took the Jets in that game. It's interesting to you know what when we say these we paid point very much attention to how games are wagered. And so that's that's another aspect of this whole process of hours whereby you say, well, listen, what about what do you make it? What? How? How

are the previous games? How were certain matchups in particular wagered? It was interesting, Um, and after we got off, I thought maybe there would be a significant influx of of Jets money. Did not happen. It is It is funny how even with the outrage, then you're like, okay, well you can bet in the Jets then, right, It's like, well, I think I will. You know you're not again, You're not just Stanza, women and children over to go bet

the Jets. Um, Marcus Mariota and the Titans. They forced the Jets to pump by the way one six left found themselves starting at their own fourteen to set up the game winning drive. Uh, they got it done. Maria Mariota through for two two hundred eighty two yards in the second half. Also live the Titans with forty three yards rushing, including a twenty five yards scramble on that game winning drive where he recovered his own fumble at the end. That was a big theme yesterday in the

NFL quarterbacks recovering their own fumbles. Certainly, the Giants would have been killing themselves if they had lost that because Chase Daniel was just fumbling it all over the place and recovering it all over his place. We'll get to that later. Anyway, tightens out game the just four oh three to two eighty in total offense. Jacksonville at Titans

a barn burner of a Thursday night game. I'll say Tennessee, and let's relate it back to my guests from last week right where I said I think I said Tennessee by three or four over the Jets or four, I said, and it's nine and a half. I was outraged. So I'm gonna I'm gonna remain consistent. I'm gonna say Tennessee by four and a half. Here over the Jacksonville Jaguars four and a half. There it is, they've come, and what a start they've come. To me, they are I'm

drunk with power. We're just gonna put your numbers up today, don't matter what. Let's just do that. Jaguars and victory. Eleven first downs, two eleven totally yards. Sometimes it works out that way. But you don't know when this may look I'm sorry, but if this may look like it, well you said, well, this is not a really particularly attractive matchup given their their records. But it's the Thursday

night game, and you know what's the standalone game. It's not going to do what the game last less Thursday Night the Cowboys and Saints did, but uh it'll still it will have more handled than it would have if then if it was on Sunday. So did that Saints Cowboys was the one lesson the and take away from that game more than anything was bet Thursday games at your own risk, because squirrely things happened on Thursdays. The difference with that game was because it was Thursday. Has

always been about a short turnaround, right. But but the thing about it is. They had played on Thanksgiving, so it wasn't like, yeah, both of them, So it wasn't that it was a short particularly short week for both of them. It was an attractive enough matchup to It was actually one of the highest wagered games of the year to handle on. The game was was off the charts. We've replaced your New Yorleans Saints with your local high school team. Let's watch what happens um Tennessee four and

a half nailed it. There you go, buddy. Started by the way, shout out to Taywan Taylor of the Titan was great yesterday. Three catches for one oh four Titans when it despite going one of eleven on third downs yesterday. We'll get to the full Sunday slate. Try to isolate some value. That's what we do. It's guessing lines Week

fourteen in the National Football League. Any in for Christy tribute to the old Start US show right here on Visa Now back to a numbers game with your host Gil Alexander, broadcasting live from our Visa in studios in Las Vegas. Bull season is upon us. Now Bowl season is what stands between us and the college football playoff. Visa wants to make you a better college football handicapper for Bull Season with our annual Bull Guide, which is

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on a numbers game, and we're gonna handicap. And now as I say that, let me just point this out of vide because you'll appreciate this. So tomorrow on the show, we're gonna go through the bowl season tenants, the Bull Season handicapping tenants, will run through them all because there's a whole bunch and they're always dynamic. Because there's more

of things happening. Now, guys aren't even showing up for ball games like that's the latest thing, right where Ever, since Christian McCaffrey and Leonard Fournette said deuces, now everybody's doing, by the way, I'm surprised it had didn't happen for years, and I'm all, I'm all for the players doing that.

Good for them if they want to protect their pro careers. UM. That said, let me just say this as I as I promote all this stuff for those of us who have bet for years and years college football bull season.

Every year I go into it very excited, and every year I come out disappointed and I just want to remind myself because all it took was one day last year to remind the very first day with like the five bowl games, they're like, oh, yeah, that's why I hate bull season because we try to we try to handicap motivation, and you know what, in the end, many none of us really know, you really don't. That's a great point. Um, there's several factors that and again there's

what forty bowl games. I mean here Here's motivation is certainly a part of it. Uh Coaching, coaching over movement, right, coaching and players deciding as you mentioned, not to play. Um. Suspensions come about, right, and sometimes suspensions in droves like a you know, groups of players. So there's a lot to uh more, which we'll talk about tomorrow. Yeah, I mean, it's just it's a situation where outside of the final four, because they're they're playing in advance, it's it's difficult, Um.

But you know then you've got to take into consideration again, we go back to motivation. Who's excited about being in a particular game because the program is on the rise? Um? Who feels disrespected? You know, we we've we've talked and we'll continue to talk about ucf uh do they you know, I mean, what an accomplishment for this this program over the last few years. So yeah, there's a lot of things to take take away. But you know what two guilt to your point, you can't wait disappointed? But keep

what keeps you coming back? Their games? They're there petting opportunity. Oh by the way, Less Championship game was pretty exciting, right, so story but like, you know, yeah, I guess what I'm saying is like sometimes you you you handicapped motivation. You're like, you know, you know, within these are such a lot and there's such live betting vehicles because you know, five minutes into a pre flop, you're like, well that's

that was wrong. Yeah, sorry, Gil, I love you, but don't believe that on that first day, when there's five games going on, you're not gonna have action on at least one game. I'm sorry, you know me, Well, you're onto me. That's that's the proverbial lock. Yes, the proverbial lock is right. All right, let's continue Week four ten, the NFL um Sunday Sunday's first game tending in Pacific. Start the Ravens back from the back from the mat. Yeah, against the Chiefs in Kansas City. And um, I'm sure

you'll have a comment on this now. Again we need to see obviously more than one game, but the Kareem Hunt situation, and yes, I believe certainly impacted and and impacts that Chief's offense. I believe it does. And we've become very we've become very used to saying, well, quarterbacks are really the only thing that moves the needle, and only certain quarterbacks. But man, um sure a period yesterday anyway, it is only one game that Kareem Hunt probably moves

the needle a little in them. But in the betting market, well, you know what else, Gilt, you talked about fumbles in the first segment, and quarterbacks in particularly fumbling and recovering their own fumbles, the Raiders don't fumble the ball yesterday, or if they recover from they win the game. Right, think about it, I mean they they did not recover their fumbles. Kansas City ends up winning that game against Raider.

Raiders got within three linked in that game, and for a moment there you're like, is this is this really happening? But the Chiefs end up going away winning that ball game yesterday. If we could flash up the final from yesterday, Kansas City wins it on twenty three of thirty eight passing from Patrick Mahomes two yards, four touchdowns, no picks, no sacks. Oh, by the way, you also carried the ball nine times for fifty two yards Spencer Ware in lieu of of um of Kareem Hunt fourteen carries forty

seven yards and a touchdown. Travis Kelsey was the man yesterday, twelve catches a hundred sixty eight yards, two touchdowns. The Chiefs win at forty to thirty three. Don't come near h the cover of fourteen points UM eleven penalties for the Chiefs also got the best of them for ninety four yards UM. Mahomes, by the way, just to a a

side note, through twelve games. You know the list of of quarterbacks that have thrown forty touchdown passes through twelve games in a season, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Patrick Mahomes forty one. Now on the season, good lord, Manning had forty four at this point. In two thousand four Brady had forty one. In twenty thirteen, Oh, Brady also, I guess, Oh no, Manning had forty four, and in two thousand fourteen Brady had whead he won in two

thousand and seven. Um, yes, so the headline and let's just review it again, Kareem Hunt. After we got off the year on Friday. This all went down in a five hour span on Saturday. Uh, Kareem Hunt TMZ coming out with a video UM that from February in a hotel, UM that shows Kareem Hunt, UH shoving, kicking um a a woman. And it is footage that the NFL claims

to have never Well, here's here's what we know. The NFL never interviewed Kareem Hunt, the NFL never interviewed the victim, and according to the Athletic, the NFL actually told the Kansas City Chiefs to stand down and not pursue the video anymore the acquisition of the video, because everybody was aware that something went down. Here's a Mike Freeman tweet, Mike Freeman NFL at Mike Freeman, NFL. The NFL never

interviewed Hunt, the NFL never interviewed the victim. The NFL, according to the Athletic, instructed the chief stop rushing, the pursuing the video everything I just said, TMZ got the video point number four, and so it's it harkens back again. Not to get too much in the weeds on this, but I would go on rants a couple of summers ago here on Visa and about how listen, the Roger

deal makes over forty million a year. On my podcast, the Beating the Book podcast, and on this show, I have ranted about just how bad of a tenure this is. In the NFL spy gate, bounty gate, deflate gate, the Redskins and Cowboys salary cap um, just ridiculous ruling that no one remembers that Roger Dendal came down on the Redskins name flap, which I know people have different opinions on, but Roger Dale sided with Daniel Snyder so quickly that it was just you know, like, whoa do you want

to be spend a minute talking about this? Of course, the biggest the biggest stain in the Goodell administration though, is the question of domestic violence. The issue of domestic violence, and the fact is that the written that nothing happen to Ray Rice until that video appeared, that grany black and white video Ray Rice initially with a just a slap on the wrist. Then when the video came out, oh boy, what have you done? NFL Josh Brown of

the New York Giants also mishandled by Roger Goodell. And so then last year or two year or two summers ago, this is Zekiel Elliott matter with the Cowboys, and I ranted on about it on a numbers game all the time. How and I'm a Redskin fan. The handling of Ezekiel Elliott was a complete pr pendulum swing because of how they mishandled Ray Rice and Josh Brown on domestic violence. They had Affid David sworn affidavits and flimsy evidence against

Zekil Elliott. He ended up with a six game suspension that he had to keep appealing all year long. Last year, It's ridiculous and now this and if it's true that the NFL told the Chiefs not to go after this video. Shame on them, Shame on them. Another stain. Can't get anything right. So in a five hour span when the video was exposed by TMZ, was put on the commissioner's exemptions list, and then the Kansas City Chiefs basically because they had asked Kareem Hunt, even though they didn't end

up getting the video, they had asked Aaree Hunt. Did this happen? What happened? What's the extent of it? Well, Kareem Hunt had lied to them, and so the Chiefs cut ties with their leading rusher, um and a key cog in their offense. So that's basically the review. If you were trapped under a heavy object, we're out of the country. Um, Chiefs do get the win against the Raiders yesterday. We'll see Spencer Wear and company can make

up for that moving forward. But obviously on the football field, which is where we we uh really care about matters here for our purposes. Um, we'll see, we'll see how it affects numbers, and Vinnie, I'm guessing it will affect a number here. Maybe Baltimore comes into this game having beaten Atlanta and again, coach Harball my hips, okay, Joe, your hips not okay, not really, it's okay, No, it's not.

Sit back on the sideline, Lamar Jackson yesterday, first of all, the Ravens in that game seven of fifteen on third downs, two for two on fourth. They outgained Atlanta three sixty six to one thirty one in their twenty six to sixteen win. Outright wins two and a half point dogs. They controlled the ball for thirty nine minutes and thirty nine seconds. Lamar twelve of twenty one for one, but also added seventeen carries for seventy five yards and a touchdown.

And that's the dimension that he adds. Dominating defensive performance by the Ravens. They limited Atlanta to its fewest yards in almost two decades. Baltimore held the Falcons to a hundred thirty one yards Atlanta's we're showing since a game against the Niners in nine. By the way, if you watch red Zone, this was an amazing day of red zone with that game. Every time it went to that game, the Ravens had the ball. I do not remember one instance in which the Falcons had the ball thirty nine.

Thirty nine will do that. How about the fact that the Ravens opened two and a half in this game at one point, Remember that was the other one I was at. The Falcons at one point were a three point favorite. Is two and a half. That was the one I was outraged about and was and should not have been outraged about. Based on the result. Ravens end up sacking Matt Ryan three times, one of which forced

the fumble that Tavon Young. We're turning to the eleven yards were touchdown that sealed the victory more or less back in the division race. Now with the Steelers back so half game back, they stumbled. Remember they beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh earlier in the season. It looked like they were, you know, on a on a terrific course. After that game, though, they were never the same, and

in the last couple of weeks they've resurrected themselves. I'll say Kansas City by seven here touched down pay them man seven. It is back to back, right back right on it, which is cool, but not really what we want. We want outrage, We want to isolate some value. We'll find some outrage. I'm sure we'll get there, all right? Which got next? We've got the Colts and the Texans matchup, so all they a f C South playing each other Jaguars Titans on Thursday, and now the Colts Texans here.

So if there's Indianapolis six and six, Houston's nine and three. UH. I don't know what the tiebreakers off hand with Tennessee if Tennessee wins Thursday, but I'm guessing Houston might have a shot here that well. We Houston definitely has a shot here this week to clinch the a f C South. Houston, which lost its first three games of the season and has reeled off nine in a row, longest winning streak of the National Football League Indianapolis against the Jaguars, we

already covered this game. They had forty one rushing yards forty one against the Jaguars. Andrew Luck was sacked three times yesterday after getting hit. Remember just five times in the entire month of November. Hit five times in the entire month of November. He was sacked once in the previous five games. Sacked three times yesterday. Col Centered with the fourth most points in the league thirty four point six points a game during their win streak. UH. Look

at throwing three or more touchdown passes in eight consecutive games. Yep, all of that went away in their shutout loss Cole by the way, passing up two field goal tries in the first half, including taking one successful kick off the scoreboard, they were over over three rather on fourth down, all of them in field goal range. They finished with just two hundred sixty five yards five of eighteen on third downs, and the Texans man they went out to a huge

lead over the Browns. It was over before you could even blink. Twenty three to nothing halftime lead to Shawn two of thirty one for two twenty four for the Texans, one touchdown. Note, Picks sacked four times, Lamar Miller another hundred yard game, nineteen carries a hundred three yards, DeAndre Hopkins seven catches, ninety one Houston eight of sixteen on third downs. They were out gained by Cleveland love these stats three ninety seven to one ninety seven, but there

were plus four and turnover margin. That's the story. And again, speaking of time of possession domination, we just did with Baltimore of Atlanta thirty seven minutes thirty five seconds for the Texans yesterday in that game. Um, and they picked off Baker Mayfield three times, Houston by four, Sir, four and a half, right there, kill, Okay, I'll do four and half. Alright, makes sense. Let's go to break. We'll do more guessing lines week fourteen in the National Football League,

looking to isolate value. We'll get to something. I hope Week seventeen is squirrely. We've got a few more bettable weeks here in the NFL, Vinnie, And for Christy, it's a numbers game right here at Visa. Back to a numbers game with your host Gil Alexander, broadcasting live from

our Visa in studios in Las Vegas. Back on guessing lines here on a numbers game where sports betting analytics live, actionable sports betting information skill Alexander Series XM, Channel two oh four here at Visa, Vinny, I think I can speak for everybody because we have TVs on here in the studio. UM, And I think this this goes across aisles. This is just a great American statesman we're watching. Uh George H. W. Bush, our forty one President of the

United States. Uh, it's his funeral today, and I just want to say, what a statesman. And what a resume. Has there ever been a greater resume for any human being? President va as President, lead the CIA, director of the CIA, director of the FBI, Ambassador to the United Nations. Uh was a World War two pilot you were saying he got shot down. It was shot down World War two and rescued at sea by an American submarine. Played in a couple of college world series by the way, tying

it into sports for Yale. Yeah, I just want to point that out. Um, just just a remarkable anyway, you pretty humble man in in today's political environment. Let us not let that pass without without mentioning and and also gil to you and many others. Happy honkah do isn't today again? Hanka? Well, thank you, Vinny mali Ulo. It is the first day of hanukkah Um. Let me just

explain brief brief aside here on Hanaka. Hanaka not really a big holiday back in the old country, but for those of us who grew up Jewish here in this UH country, it's sort of a reaction to Christmas, because Christmas is a beautiful holiday, a gorgeous phenomenal We love Chris this um, but it's sort of all pervasive. So as someone who so let me just when I was five years old, I will not you know, you have

some memories and blazing in your head. I will never forget the day that my mother made it clear to me. I remember she I remember where I was exactly five years old. My mother said, you know, by the way, I don't really appreciate her attitude. She was a bit flipping about it. Uh she said to me. She was like, Gilly, we don't celebrate Christmas. And I remember thinking of my five year old brain, how do I get out of

this family? Like this is horrific, this is like what kind of like look at my older brother, like you was just taking it. I was like, you're just gonna take this sitting down. But like I didn't understand how Santa new to jump from the Haskins house over our house to the Websters. Well, here's what you do, and why would he do that? You know, here's what my buddy Izzy and I had an arrangement. I had a buddy is he We have an arrangement. We exchanged gifts

and we we we promoted it to the family. So we got best of both worlds. You got ice are you going? I didn't have it. It It was an arrangement. I did have an arrangement. I wish you were in my next favorite Finny. I didn't have an arrangement like that anyway. That was one of these we got that. That was only five at this point in this story. But yeah, so I was. That was one of the most traumatic. Thank you. He was nine when he was going to the track after that, Um, I was eight.

And for those who and for those who, for those who counter by saying, well, don't you get gifts all eight days? No, we don't get gifts all eight days. Like there's nobody I know that's ever gone. My dad would get donuts every night. Anyway. Anyway, thanks for the happy hunt, appreciate it. I didn't mean to memory trauma. She had a bit of an attitude of that, Like I should have known by then. I remember the exact day in the place I do, like, what do you mean?

All right, let let's get here, let me let me, let me, let's do a little therapy. Alright. Please the Panthers Brown, I forgot what we were doing. For second Panthers lose again, Vinny four in a row for the Panthers, and Greg Olsen done zo again. Planter Fascia out for this season, just horrible luck for him. Christian McCaffrey keeps lighting up the box score. Ten carries a hundred six yards, nine catches fifty five yards in a touch Cam Newton right,

that's good. But two touchdowns and four four I n T s sacked four times. The Carolina Panthers out gained the Bucks four four to three. Fifteen doesn't matter. Carolina loses the Bucks to seventeen. They loses three and a half point road favorites. Remember last week when I guess this, I was like three, and you said three and a half, And I said, why are they getting a hook? Buccaneers offense can do this anyway. Buccaneers get it done. But Carolina falls to six and six and they're very much now.

For a month ago, they were just a lock to get it done into the postseason. Now they're in a scrum. They're at Clee lind you said here at Cleveland, Yes, Cleveland, who we mentioned already lost to the Texans. Baker Mayfield forty three for three ninety seven but one touchdown in three picks, running for his life, running for his life. Their entire running game the Browns yesterday was Nick Chubbs nine carries for thirty one yards and a touchdown. That

was it. Nobody else got a carry nine carries for thirty one yards. Jervis Landry six catches one oh three, but four turnovers for the Browns. That's what did him in, including Mayfield's three interceptions. Can you name the last time Baker Mayfield through three interceptions in one game? Was it in co at Oklahoma at Texas when he was a freshman where he was where he had transferred from. Uh. He entered the game having thrown nine touchdown passes with

just one interception in the past three games. Uh. You know what, J J. Watt after the game, he probably wasn't feeling too dangerous in the first half, but he was feeling a little But he was feeling a little more dangerous in the second half. That was bonds to uh Baker Mayfield saying before a Browns winn earlier this season, I'm feeling I knew I woke up feeling dangerous this pet Well, he was in danger yesterday for most of

the game. That I can tell you. Tough sequence for the Browns to when Mayfield threw a bomb Callaway, it was called back on a penalty, and then the next play again it was another big gainer. And then just before Callaway was going in the end. So Justin Reid, who made the biggest play for the Texans against the Redskins to pick six for hundred one yards, he knocked the ball lows bad news for Cleveland. Also, Denzel Ward left in the first half of the concussion yesterday, So

keep an eye on that. Caroline is at Cleveland. So last week I said it should be three at Tampa, you said it was three and a half. I'll say this is Carolina minus two and a half as Cleveland Carolina one. And I believe Cleveland will get plenty of play here. Do you think Cleveland ends up is the favorite? I wouldn't be surprised. Would be a quick move. I said this last week. Caroline is so tough to put your money behind. They are. I mean, think about you, you met and get you hit it on the head.

They were six and two at one point appeared to be playing extremely well. Um but they have not only have they lost four in a row, but they have found ways to to really hurt themselves. Cam Newton yesterday you mentioned that the three interceptions he's still taking and taking punishment still and you notice that they took him out of the game on the Hail Mary daylor Hanekey came in the game to throw it, which also tells you that something's up with his arm. Done of the

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seven and one. We talked about the Falcons having lost to the um Ravens yesterday Atlanta thirty four yards rushing nineties seven yards passing Geez thirty four yards on fifteen carries, by the way for Matt Ryan, the fewest passing yards in a game he's played from start to finish in his eleven year career. Fourth straight loss for the Falcons, thousands of empty seats at Mercedes Been Stadium yesterday, plenty of blues, a booze rather and blues with the clock

winding down. And then the Packers famously yesterday losing outright as fourteen point favorites against the Cardinals, and Mike McCarthy cost him his job. Some might say finally, some might say at last, Packers lose at twent to seventeen as thirteen and a half point closing favorites here at the South Point Hotel Casino. But Mark Murphy says in a statement after the game, the season has not lived up to the expectations and standards of the green Bay Packers.

As a result, I made the difficult decision to relieve Mike McCarthy of his role as head coach, effective immediately. Green Bay has lost three straight and five of six. They were three for fourteen on third downs. I will say green Bay despite that, remember last week, getting back to last week, I guess ten. You said it was fourteen. I couldn't believe that either. I'll say green Bay minus four and a half. Here green Bay six tackers six. I just think that's a new look. I guess it

just seems high. It shouldn't be six point favorites against anybody right now, and it is. I give you that. I grant you that. But you know, Aaron Rodgers is not that is not on all cylinders either. No, he's not good. Point gil Um the probably the most important player to a number that as we've talked about for the last couple of years. But he is, uh, he's not.

Only he's obviously the knee is is not not. But Um, you don't get When I moved to San Francisco years and years ago, they had just come off like twenty one years of Hall of Fame quarterback and Joe Montana followed by Steve Young. They won five Super Bowls, and remember wh Jeff Garcia was the quarterback there by the way, Jeff Garcia, who only went to three Pro Bowls with the Niners. Right, Nighters fans were so spoiled, they're like

always terrible. I'm like, please give me, give me. Jeff Garcia, right, they've had this in in Green Bay now, Bret Farve to Aaron Rodgers, they've won exactly two super At some point you gotta make a chance. I get at the timing bothers people, but man, this is long overdue, long overdue. And and me and Lombardi and I'm sure other people on there we have talked about. Now. Aaron Rodgers looks like he hates Mike McCarthy. His body language does so you say six here, six or six, let's do one more.

In his birthday yesterday, who's Mike McCarthy's, No, Aaron Rodgers. So there's a little present for management. Maybe maybe there's a rebound spot Gil the Saints in Tampa to play the box Saints with the extra rest off their debacle. I love that, love that word. At Dallas Tampa Bay with the win over Carolina. Drew Brees, by the way, last Thursday night, I just want to repeat the Drew

Brees stats because they're so off the board outlying. He was eighteen of twenty eight for one twenty seven against the Cowboys in the Saints thirteen to ten outright lost last Thursday night for a hundred twenty seven yards. I said, one touchdown, one pick, hundred seventy six total yards for the Saints. In that game. The Saints had a hundred

and seventy six total yards against the Cowboys. They were three for eleven on third downs jamis yesterday for the Bucks twenty of thirty for two forty nine, two touchdowns, no picks, five carries, forty eight Chris Godwin five catches. Want I wanted to touchdown New Orleans by seven on the road, I'll say it'll be the exact same spread it was against the Cowboys here at Tampa. Saints eight over seven better than a touchdown. Okay, I'm not like, I know that's off the number. I'm not. I'm not.

I'm not bothered by that. Um because one more thing about the Mike McCarthy thing too. Actually, I don't know what else I wanted to say about it other than we mentioned. I talked with Mike Lombardi about this last Tuesday, which is, I think this is gonna be the strange year where the worst teams in the league, the group of worst teams all end up keeping their coaches right because the Niners aren't gonna fire Shanahan, the Raiders aren't

gonna fire Gruden. All these different circumstances at the bottom where guys are first year coaches, Schermer with the Giants, um, you name it. But I think it's these mid tier guys. I think Todd Bowles will go with the Jets, but I think McCarthy we mentioned, was the first to go. Ron Rivera's job very much in jeopardy. John Harball, Lamar Jackson might be saving his job. But there's a whole bunch of guys sort of made just above that bottom

group that could That's a good point. Bottom group find rebuildings. So yeah, that's it's a good point. It's gonna be an interesting offseason in the National Football League, for sure. We got a whole bunch more games to get to. We're not even half. Everybody plays, no more buys, all right, guessing lines, that's what we do right here on a Numbers game on Monday's Tomorrow, Michael Lombardi Thursday Sharp and crack the football, free for all. That's how we do it.

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lightly Bowl season hand happen. I just want to point that out, all right, Vinney Malilo is here, Las, gentlemen. The slow jamming sounds that you hear is the slow jamming dulcet tones of Vinny Mole. Hello. He's in for Chrissy Anders Chrissy listening to this show and critiquing I'm sure every word that we're saying here. No, he wouldn't ever do that. No waiting for me to talk about a teasers. I'm sure, And it should be pointed out again.

People should know, uh, teasers, teasers unless you teased properly, this week didn't go well for you, by and large in the NFL's properly. Yes, many next game, What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do with this game? Teaser wise? The Jets and Buffalo to play the Bills oh Man three and nine, Jets four at eight Bills. The Jets, as we pointed out, snatching defeat from the

jaws of victory against the Titans yesterday. Josh McCown seventeen of thirty for one eight, no touchdowns, one pick, sack twice. Jets were eleven, had eleven penalties for nineties six yards. Todd Bowls after the game quote, dumb mistakes a dumb times cost his ball games and that's why we're in the position we're in. Oh boy, that's not goods again. Todd Bowls Lifetime Pass Redskins Super Bowl champion Malcolm Butler intercepted Josh McCown's passed with twenty one seconds left to

seal Tennessee's winning the Jets collapse. New York now has lost sixth straight. Todd Bowles is fuming Jets had not forced to turn over in five straight games. Uh they did here. They sacked mariot To three times. They got production the Jets did across the board on special teams. They blocked a punt to set up a field goal. They blocked an extra point attempt inside the final end of the first half. They had a sixty one yard kickoff return. None of it mattered in the end. Tennessee

beat him Buffalo Bills. They end up losing to the Dolphins. Man that last pass from Josh Allen Charles Clay and Charles couldn't wrangling. It was short, I get it, and it was a bit of a duck, but man, there was no one around him. Bill's battling Bill's battle at four and eight. We feel good about the Bills, no one, because we all should apologize to Josh Allen. Maybe not all of us any if you're looking like you shouldn't, but I mean maybe some of us. H Allen, we're

killing Josh Allen. It's not just him. That's a dog that James, you know, I mean, you know, I made the whole team a dog in these games, you know, except this one. You know that I'm just saying some of us might have said he couldn't. He wasn't accurate that Wyoming. He's not gonna be accurate in the NFL eighteen of thirty three for two thirty one, two touchdowns, two picks, sack twice, but nine carries for one thirty five. Like, we gotta start thinking of Josh Allen as this guy

who can tuck it under and get it done. He's doing it multiple games now. But you certainly don't want your quarterback to be your leading Russia either. You don't not not in a long term. You don't that, say Jones. By the way, four catches sixty seven but two touchdowns for the Bills. Yesterday, the Bills out gained the Dolphins in total yards four fifteen to one seventy five and lose it one to seventeen. Dolphins cover the closing number

here at the south point three and a half. This was a total game depended when did you get the what number did you get it at? When did you bet this super contest? Bills betters were the winners because it was four and a half if I'm not mistaken, But four fifteen seventy five and total yards but three turnovers for the Bills minus two in turnover margin thirteen penalties for a hundred twenty yards. Is that Buffalo? This is in Buffalo? Yeah, Bills minus four, Bills three and

a half. Good right there. These are kind of easy though this week, so it'll min it'll probably get there. Uh. I think they'll be support for the Bills here. All right. What a lot of division games, so that's no real surprise here as we get into the final month of the season. Patriots in Miami to play the Dolphins. So just like the a f C South, the a f C East involved with each other, Patriots of the Dolphins.

Patriots now nine and three after be eating the Vikings yesterday and covering the Dolphins, as we just mentioned, get by the Bills. Dolphins are six and six? How are the Dolphins still alive? Nobody talking about the Dolphins? By the way, did Jake Cutler beat the Patriots in Miami last year? Did Jay Cutler beat him? Jake Cutler was a Dolphin? Yeah? Last year? Did the Dolphins Dolphins game that. I don't think color was a quarterback in the I'll

have to look, I'll check. I wouldn't bet against that. He's very cavalry. Just want to point that out, but anyway, and he was just thinking back this Michael uh Tom Brady yesterday four of thirty two for three eleven, one touchdown, one pick, no sacks, four hundred and seventy one total yards of offense for the Patriots. Bill Belichick earning his two fiftieth victory including playoffs as the Patriots coach, and the Patriots won eight of nine and starting the season

one and two. This game was in the was it the third quarter? Late third, early fourth? And then the Patriots just went Patriot. Belichick improved to sixty five and thirteen in December straight up. Brady's fifty nine and eleven straight up in December both our NFL records for the most wins during that month for a coach and a player. Patriots have clinched now their eighteen straight winning season, second

longest streak in NFL history. The Cowboys had twenty seasons between sixty six and eighty five, the only longer streak. And Tom Brady, for those who missed it, reached another milestone one thousand yards rushing in his career. It took him nineteen years and two hundred and sixty five games. Twenty of Patriot fans in Miami for this game, so it reads the one thousand yard milestone. Most of my

players since the merger, and Vinny was correct. It was Jay Cutler who who beat who beat them down in Miami? Vinny Matt Moore was two weeks before when they played Mark one up for Vinny. I knew you'd run into one eventually. I'm kidding, I'm choking. Twice said don't bet against the refined print boys. Yeah. I tessed with Tom Brady's rushing numbers. Guys, just give you one more. Tom Brady has averaged one point seven yards per carrying his career,

three point eight three point eight yards per game. His most prolific rushing season two thousand two, when he ran for a total of ten yards. Okay, I'm done. Uh it is Ryan Tannehill now who center for the Adolphins. He's sixteen of twenty four for one thirty seven yesterday in victory, three touchdowns, one picksack, three times, sixty total rushing yards for the Dolphins. The Patriots will be seven and a hook on the road against the Dolphins eight on the opener. Here at the saw point, Man, I

am on fire. You are which sucks? Because I'd like to have some value somewhere. Let's keep working. Let's move on the Rams at the Bear. Oh wait, this is a flex game, so she want to do that later? Yes? Please, Okay, we'll do that later. The Giants at the Redskins. Sight unseen on the Redskins tonight, Chris Thompson bat, Maybe Jamison Crowder come on, skin needs it's big. Skins trying to keep pace with the Cowboys, Eagles trying to stay relevant tonight,

but sight unseen with the Skins. It'll be the Giants at the Redskins. I'm gonna just say. I'm gonna say Redskins by three right off the bat. Sight unseen. Obviously, what happens tonight could alter that. If Colt McCoy goes down and the Redskins simply don't have a quarterback at at that point, that would change things. For instance, God forbid, sa Kwon Barkley. Yesterday, Giants beat the Bears thirty to twenty seven in overtime, and man did they almost blow

this game? Uh? Se kwon Barkley again. Twenty four carries a hundred twenty five yards. O'Dell Beckham Jr. Caught a touchdown pass through a touchdown pass. Giants, though, gotta clean up the penalties twelve penalties a hundred seven yards. Giants blew a ten point lead in the final one minute and thirteen seconds of this game. Aldric Rosa's kicking a forty four yard field go on ot eventually for the what eventually became the thirty to twenty seven win for

the Giants snapped the Bears five game winning streak. Rosas, by the way, kicked the off the seven yard field goal on the final player, the first half longest field goal in Giants history. New York has won three of four since it's by Week didn't nail down the wind until Generora's Jenkins knocked away a deep fourth down past the Taylor Gabriel after Chase Daniel had fumbled on consecutive plays on that final drive to set up a fourth

and age. By the way that the Bears had three fumbles, I believe on that final drive that they recovered didn't work out for them in the end season five sacks for for Chase Daniel. How many fourth down conversions of the Bears have yesterday fourth down conversion will have to look at him at least four or more. Um, you mentioned it four or five? Um. They were down ten field goal recover the onside kick fourth and goal to tie the game on a on a play that I

think every Bear on the field touched the ball. We'll get to the Bears. We'll get to the Bears perspective on that soon. Yes, but the Bears, it was amazing. Chase Daniel first of all, converted a fourth and long to Tariko and on that drive, and then yes, the final play fourth and goal which Tarrico and ended up throwing creation. But the Skins Skins by three is what I'm saying here. Giants at Skins to the Bears, Uh, Skins by three sight unseen. They'll probably get there opened

one and a half. Come on, Just to go back to that Bears Giants game, the Bears were four for five on fourth down in the game at that the teams come abind to go six for seven. The Giants were for seven fourth down conversion. You know, it scares me about that I have box score memory that I was able to come up with four for five in my head, excellent. That should really I thought there would be uh emotionally spent after the last week's loss Um Giants Hills. Broncos are sort of feel good right at

this point. Broncos are six and six like they're in it. Well, they're in it, and their schedules very favorite. They go nine and seven. They're very favorable schedule the Broncos. Who will finish with a better record this year? Case Keenum with the Broncos or Kirk Cousins with the Vikings. That's a good question. That's a good it's a good one. Yeah, right, let's do one more. All right, We've got the speaking

of the Broncos in San Francisco. There's one of them, six and six Broncos too, and ten niners Philip Lindsay five ft eight inch Philip Lindsay nineteen carries for one hundred and fifty seven yards career best two touchdowns. Yesterday for the Broncos. It was windy, and the Broncos basically said against the Bengals, Broncos went to ten easily covers, four point favorites. They're like, look is windy, Philip? You ready for this? You and your five ft eight inch frame?

And Philip was like, yeah, I'll go for one seven. That's what he did. Broncos since they're bye week, Vinnie. They beat in the Chargers, the Steelers and the Bengals sixty six degrees at kickoff, but really windy wind gust up to forty miles per hour yesterday, redirected kicks and throws. His nickname Lindsay's pit Bull, undrafted rookie out of Colorado, uh and is the first undrafted rookie and Bronco's history to top a thousand combined yards rushing and receiving. Denver

was up twenty one to three in this game. Of the third quarter, Katie bar the door at that point. Used to say, Katie bar the door when you're a kidmntee, No, but either did I relatives, but it's a little some of your southern relatives. Quarterback Chris Harris Junior, by the way, broke his lower right leg in the first quarters. That's bad news for the Broncos there San Francisco. I guess we should mention the Niners got crushed by the Seahawks.

Mullins Nick Mullins thirty forty four fourteen didn't matter, two touchdowns, one pick. It's all cosmetic sact three times. Dante Pettis five catches a twenty nine yards, two touchdowns actually out gained the Seahawks three thirty one, but three turnovers minus the three turnover margin. You know how that goes. And thirteen penalties for a hundred twenty eight yards. Let's flash that up one more time, guys, Seahawks. How's the how's

the Niners? Seahawks? We'll get to them. So efficient Seahawks beating forty three to sixteen West two teams in football, the two teams in the Bay, sorry, Bay Raiders and Niners. Uh. Denver's at San Francisco, Denver in San Francis. Okay, So this is actually an interesting line to make because three would be too few, and seven I think would be too many because the Broncos shouldn't be seven point favorites on the road against anybody. Sorry, So it's gonna be

in the no man's land. I'll say Denver minus. I'll just throw out at number five, five and a half. You're right there, same number basically, dude. Let me just tell you. If you're just tuning in the guessing lines and you think I'm this good, trust me. You missed the last two weeks. I'm really not. I mean, I was way off like couple the last two weeks. Let's

do another. There you go, speaking of the Bengals, Let's see how this works in Los Angeles to play the Chargers the Charge I'm very impressive last night in the

second half, so your boy, that would be me. I don't know got into me Saturday night, but I saw that the Chargers were plus seven ten in a far away place to win the a f C. So I grabbed it, even knowing to myself, well, if the Charges they were not gonna win their division, probably so even if I'm getting this plus seven ten, it's probably not as good as rolling over money lines on their three playoff games that were required to win the a f C. But I had this thinking suspicion that will never see

the plus seven ten again, so I grabbed it, and boy did that turn out to be a pretty fruitful move. After the Chargers come from behind to beat the Steelers yesterday, we'll get to them in a minute. First of all, the Bengals, can we just do a PostScript on them for a second? A J. Green one catch seven yards toe injury, had to leave. We won't see him again in That was his first game back, first game almost

a month. First going back, sure was he uh reinjured the foot will running a route and came off the field for perhaps the last time this season. He returned after missing three games with an injured tow on his right foot, hoping to give the Bengals offense lift. But I didn't get through a quarter or actually only lasted one quarter. Bengals sixth loss in seven games. By the way, that's another coach, Marvin. Marvin Lewis mid tier team forty

four thousand, three nine two, smallest at Paul Brown Stadiums. Yeah, Marvin Lewis could be gone because their defense is just getting destroyed. Jeff Driscoll first NFL start, two thirty six touchdown, picked fumble, four sax um Cincinnati eight penalties in the first half, twelve hundred for the game, eight in the first half. It's most in an opening half since two thousand nine. But the Chargers last night, this is the

game that got most people. Pittsburgh was favored by three three and a half, depending on where you got it. And by the way, always shop, Always pick your spot when you get the best number closed here at the south point is three and at three and a half Steelers led this game by sixteen, couldn't hold on to seven and a half. They had not lost a home game. They showed the graphic um when up by fourteen points or more in the second half. I believe I have

that statistics. The Steelers had been one seventy four oh in one went up by that much at home. One. And there's the Greek. Uh. The Greek with the tweet they said before tonight the Steelers had never lost the game at home where they had led by fourteen plus points. They were two twenty o and two. That's according to the Greek. The one they flashed up was that the Steelers had been won seventy four oh and one went up by that much at home. Either way, you get

the idea. But anyway, the Chargers overcame that. Philip rivers twenty six and thirty six for two ninety nine two touchdowns note picks sack twice. Philip Brera's sneaky m VP candidate, sneaky diggy Keenan Allen all over the place last night at a cow fourteen catches for one forty eight in a touchdown. No Melvin Gordon, No, he still got a springed m cl Here's the thing. Austin Ekeler wasn't getting it done. They brought in Justin Jackson yesterday. He was

really good, eight for sixty three in a touchdown. Charges were six for eleven on third downs. Rivers drove the charge of sixty four yards in eleven place to set up Michael Michael Basiley's twenty nine yard field on the final snap thirty three the thirty win for the charges. I laughed because obviously if you saw that final sequence, Badgeley's initial thirty nine yard attempt excuse me, sales wide left,

Steelers will call for off side. Then Basiley's ensuing thirty four yard attempt was blocked Pittsburgh offside and then twenty nine yard or the Steelers were so far offside that the flew by him and he kicked in. The winning was behind the potential blogs. The most basic highlight a guy it's reaching back to try to block the kid because he was so far off. You ever do that as a kid, though, you had like this thing where like today we're gonna we're gonna practice blocking kicks like

you do it with you when you're a kid. You're like, I literally what this feels like and you would like miss timon and jump right through it. There was a shot of Ben Hothlisberger and you could read his lips saying we're off sides again. Again. Didn't matter to seven at a half. By the way, Desmond King also with a seventy three yard punt returned for a score. The Charges were down thirteen to nothing in the first quarter.

Um and then for the second time this season, the Chargers had a thing where one of their offensive linement was clearly false starting. The refs didn't call it. Rivers to Travis Benjamin. That's how the Charges got on the board. You will remember there was that game against the Browns where the Chargers were clearly UH, that was clearly a false start in that game, it was it was Sam Tevy yesterday, I want to say it was it was o Kung. Yeah, it was Russell Okung in that game

against the Browns and UH. Rivers hit Terrell Williams in that game, and that cost the reff in that Browns game for missing that false start. That cost somebody's job. After that one, Chargers do it again. It's like Jedi mind tricking. The refs do not call this what you see is not actually happening. Chargers, get it done. Chargers. Now, what are the Charges now? Nine and three? Is that

their record? I don't have that. Chargers definitely looking like they are playoff team and it will be interesting to see what because here's the thing in the a f C, nobody's dominant. The Kareem Hunt thing is big. The Chiefs back to the pack for sure. Chargers again hosting the Bengals. They are hosting Los Angeles because it's stub Hub Center. Remember it's not a stadium, it's not an arena, it's

a center. But here's the thing. The Chargers are one of these teams where you say, oh, well, they're gonna be on the road in the playoffs. They don't care. I don't care. They're on the road every week. They don't care. My buddy was telling me that he his brother is a ticket broker there in southern California, so they have You cannot give away Chargers tickets to this game against the Bengals. You cannot give them away. Although this will be a game where there may be there

should be more Charger fans than Bengal fans. Les fans will not travel. Chargers by thirteen fourteen and a half, I undershot it. Yeah, I guess I would say this will be fourteen in the end, m because because the old, the old sharp community, right, the old vague sharp community will take the Bengals probably here and knock it down to fourteen fourteen, and then every teaser will be on the chargers, you know, the old tease from Yeah, well,

I should say public teasers, the public teachers. Well I will. I will not tell them not to alright, because because you know, you know what I how I feel about this these days. Ready, now, let's take a break. Alright. How many more games we got, Vinnie? We've got one to three? Um? We got the four five games including Monday night. Okay, we're on schedule. Yes, sorry, we're on schedule.

We'll go to the break here. Just a review real quick, not a lot, you know how like by this point last week and the week before, we had definitely I don't remember one game being outraged by so far. This not outraged, No, was the biggest last week was outrage. Oh I was outraged. Oh. Ever, the only thing that here that that stuck out to me was that you had what was the one well, the Panthers, Green Bay by six over and Green Bay. Uh we opened six h sitting now at you hit four and a half? Again?

Am I rushing to bet the Falcons? Not exactly? No, all right, we'll do more guests lines week fourteen right here on a numbers game at Feasta. Back to a numbers game with your host Gil Alexander, broadcasting live from our visa in studios in Las Vegas. For those of who don't know, Vinny Molilo is an acrobat in and out of studio in the break like nothing ever happened, Ready to go, never left, never left. We're just talking

to all fairly. You know, I haven't seen Brent or Jimmy in months because we do the shift here in the morning. I've never seen them anymore, and I missed them dearly. Well, they're listening, and I'm sure that they'll respond accordingly. That's sort of point that because we're talking

about it. Brett Lawson is before a producer. We were talking like what was your favorite memory of the U of your time producing this show, and so we were talking about some of the asked Jimmy things we didn't now you have asked Vinny on the New York Post. How's that going. It's good. It's a lot of fun. Hey, Vinny, Ny, why might be kidding me? Oh yeah, what's your favorite question so far? Anyways? Asked you. Well, some of them sports betting related. Well, yeah, sports betting with some of them.

He just you know, I had had one where unfortunately the individual needed more than Vinnie. He needed a little more psychiatrist, priest by and a good bartender sports betting. I'm you suggesting that people sometimes need more than it was great, was Actually it was pretty funny question, Vinnie. My wife's breaking my stones constantly, my daughter married a loser, and my son won't get a job. I need to win a bed. That's great. You know you need motive, Vindie,

you need more than video. But actually they're good. They're good. The questions are good because a lot of them. One last week was about somebody who did not follow college

basketball till uh March until March madness. Yeah, And I said, well, you know what pros typically do is start to follow it now, particularly pay attention to teams that play a very tough non conference schedule in advance, team like stony Brook, which has gone to far away places including having South Carolina to play and win, and uh so you know you want to you want to try to garner some intel an advance of conference play and just don't wait

till uh march man. It still doesn't mean that you have to wait bet on it right now, but at least start getting a feel for teams up styles and who's got you know, because we allways wetent time to talk about the one one and dunes. There are teams out there that are very experienced at this Buffalo team.

Buffalo is a terrific team and a veteran team. When you say veteran team in college, well, yeah, juniors anymore or veterans compared to a lot of one and donors Buffalo, which had itself a heck of a football season, and it goes so well this past weekend. Think about it.

Buffalo is Buffalo at the end, even though they've now Louisville has started surprising well in basketball, But Buffalo, uh come bind in football and basketball is gonna be better than Louisville and football and basketball, asked Vinnie in the New York Post and in Point Spread Weekly, Right, but yes, Bill puts it in. There's well Bill eight yeah. Uh and speaking of college basketball on on a Numbers game this Wednesday, you're ready to you ready to live on

the edge. I'm looking so so forward to this and honor to have him on the show. You're ready have Anny. I'm about to say, Alan Boston on the show this Wednesday, outstanding college basketball mind. And you know what, the college basketball pick sportion is probably the thing I'm least interested in talking to him about. Okay, Well, he's gonna just want to hear him rant. That's all I want. I just wanted his thoughts. I want you know why. He's

the truth. I like the truth. He'll give you his thoughts. All right, well said Vinnie. All right, let's continue guessing lines. Here we go the Lions in Arizona to play the Cardinals, where there are a lot of crappy games this weekend.

I just say, perspective. Forget the betting, maybe from well from a betting side, though you can always make money those complete opposite, right, I mean, there's something you'll find something as I As I said during baseball season, so often you are not required to watch this National Football League game? How many times you say at baseball you're not required watch this baseball game, Detroit's at Arizona. Detroit at Arizona. Detroit loses to the Rams yesterday. Can I

say this about the Ram. We'll get to the Rams momentarily, but the Rams have some some less than inspiring road performances. I will say that Rams beat the Lions in the end thirty to sixteen. They cover as tenant a half point spread, as tenant a point favorites. We'll get to the Todd Gurle angle when we talk about the Rams. But Detroit falls to four and eight. Matthew Stafford thirty three, two forty five, one touchdown, one pick, sacked four times. Lions have lost five of six since they had a

winning record in late October. They an't winning record right around Halloween. It's usually the other way around with the Lions, right they start off poorly and then finish right, finished stronger. Detroit's d held the Rams offense and check for about three quarters and then not so much. And then there's Arizona, who beat the Packers outright as fourteen point dogs thirteen and a half point closing dogs here at the south Point.

Josh Rosen chosen Rosen not Beyondica. Josh eleven of twenty six for one forty nine, no touchdowns, doe pick, sack two times. Zane Gonzalez kicked a forty four yard field goal with one forty one left. Mason Crosby then missed the forty nine yard or as time expired. Cardinals braving the wintry conditions twenty to seventeen win A. Gonzalez just joined the team this past week after Phil Dawson was placed on I R. And the Cardinals with a patchwork offensive line Josh Rose and I will tell you this.

The stats never look good, and he doesn't look good for most of a game, but man, he has his moments. And he hit Larry Fitzgerald for thirty two yard catch on third and twenty three on that last drive to set up gonzalez winning kick. Uh Dean Lowry, by the way, sacked Rosen on first down on that sequence. Then Rosen through an in completion on second and eighteen following a botch snap, and that's when he hit Fitzgerald and the rest is history. Um Detroit by two and a half

on the road spot on Is that right? Wow? I thought I was gonna be way off on that two and a half buddy, you're at the some point. Okay, Wow, Now the um the Eagles obviously play tonight, we know, but still at the Cowboys next week. So NFC's doing that thing too. Philadelphias at Dallas, Philadelphia at Dallas, the first place Cowboys. So if Philly wins tonight, this will be a game between the six and six Eagles and the seven and five Cowboys. That will have big time implications.

Huge implication. He goes lose tonight, not so much though it would for the Redskins obviously looking in Dallas. That should be pointed out. We should mention last Thursday night against the Saints, once again rediscovering Zeke Galliott twenty three carries, seventy six yards, six catches sixty yards, and a touchdown. Cowboys had the ball for thirty six minutes and fifty

three seconds of that game against the Saints. I'll say, depending on what we see tonight, this could be anywhere between Dallas minus three or Dallas minus four, somewhere in that pocket. So what we haven't seen so I'm not going to be held to a I refuse to be held to a number. Okay, So if they open, it will look good it will be three. Okay. We opened it four and it was actually bit up two four and a half as as we speak really here, Yeah, so okay, um do one more before we have one more.

We have one more before the primetime game to the one more before the prime time. The Steelers go to Oakland to play the Raiders. Had us Steelers. Steelers lose to the Charges last night. We already covered it, and

the Raiders lose to the Chiefs. But the Raiders got within three big ben yesterday and defeat against the Charges one two touchdowns, one, one pick sacked once Antonio Brown ten catches, one touchdown, Jalen Samuel's in for Connor there at the end to carries five yards but three catches for twenty in a touchdown, possible fantasy pickup, possible Um Connor, James Conner maybe he had a lower leg energy, don't

lead the game. They think he's gonna be okay, though, Steelers, as we mentioned once, they had been one s oh and one went up by that much at home six points. Now Pittsburgh with four games left in the season, just a half game lead over Baltimore. They dropped two straight for the first time this season. Had no real answers for the Chargers in the second half. And here's their final month. The two of their four games in their final month are against New England and New Orleans. So

the Steelers are in trouble. New England is in Pittsburgh and is the New Orleans game in New Orleans. Let me check on that. We'll check on that. Kelly Kelly bitin UH and then Oakland. As we mentioned, they lose the Saints, excuse me, lose to the Chiefs. But Derek Carr had a good game yesterday. Two from us cost the Raiders yesterday. It's funny how that happens. Three turnovers for the Raiders minus to turnover margin. Here's what John grew and I would like to quote John Gruden when

the after Raiders games quote man talking about Patrick Mahomes. Now, Man, he ticked me off today. It's a credit to the guy made a third and fifteen play that was right on our sideline. I was outside myself and I was so upset some of the plays he made today. John. You know, if I closed my eyes, I could swear that Chucky was in studio, that that eyebrow raised. Yeah, it was. It was a good facial imperson, not really

a little shaky. Yeah. You know why because I get messed up with Jay Gruden, who I hear much more often. Yeah yeah, and who I have even less respectful. Week sixteen, it is Steelers uh at New Orleans. Three fumbles for the Raiders led to three scores for the Chiefs. Reached double digit losses. The Raiders have reached double digit losses for the twelfth time in sixteen seasons, and yet they're like the most singular brand still in the NFL for

some ridiculous reason. Scored thirty three points yesterday and lost and lost. Jered Cook had a good game, seven catches a hundred yards and teach. Raiders were great on third downs there were nine of twelve, but again, three turnovers led to three chief scores. That's all you need to know. Steelers are at Oakland. Steelers are at Oakland. Yes, my my Bay Area friends from Oakland who are Raiders fans, they have had it with this franchise. I just want

to point that out. Pittsburgh, Okay, seven's too few, fourteens too many, because the Chiefs were fourteen ish, So if it were ten, would people bet the Steelers? They would ten and hook eleven and a half. Alright, no man's land, all right, the flexed, Well, don't do that. I listen. I know. I wish it were a podcast too, Vinnie. Hey, I come from that background as well. We have commercial. Let's do one right here, a first game at Bason.

It's Vinny and for Chrissy guessing lines on a Monday down back to a numbers game with your host, Gil Alexander, broadcasting live from our vs IN studios in Las Vegas, Vinny. After the show today, I'll be headed over to the West Gate where I will be cashing my Clemson to make the FBS College Football Playoff bet prop. When it first came out, it was a plus one the yes and your boy got in a car called the Uber,

got in a car and raced on over there. Easy never never never concerned plus money when it first came out, So welcome all. I'll spread up to the counter. I'll do one of those slow home run trots, you know, the slow ones. You're gonna flip it. You're gonna get a bad John Murray beforehand so he can film it. Gonna flip your pen. Hey, John, I'm coming up to the counter. I've been joined the idea of you racing over there in in uber like step on it. I've got a futures bet to Bay. It was more like God.

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went off the rails. Well, you know you had you had a recently Mom got you upset when you were five she did. I didn't. I didn't appreciate her tone, didn't appreciate her attitude. I thought, you is a little flipping about anyway. We have primetime games to get You have a primetime game on Sunday night, the game that's been flexed. The Rams at the Bears. Question what I think we'll see Dr Bisky though this week? Don't you?

I do fleas all right? Rams at the Bears, the eleven and one l a Rams at the eight and four Bears yesterday, Jared Goff kind of you know me? The Detroit Lions defense really held them in check seventeen of thirty three for two oh seven, one touchdown, one pick, sack two times. Robert Woods five catches, sixty seven and a touchdown, Todd Gurley, Oh, Todd Gurley twenty three carries for a hundred thirty two yards, and the Rams clinched

the NFC West NFC West chance. They beat the Lines thirty to sixteen, covers ten and a half point, closing favorites here at the South Point, clinched the division title for a second straight season, take a one game lead over New Orleans. By the way, the race for the best record throughout the NFC Playoffs after New Orleans lost to Dallas. By the way, Sean McVeigh very awkward postgame celebration speech. If you want to sort of have an awkward moment, just you know how some guys like they're

not raw raw guys. Yeah. One of the great NFL films, one of the most awkward NFL films things of all time was Joe Montana like giving a speech to Joe Montana, winner of four Super Bowls, for God's sakes, hall of famer, but not a Hall of Fame speech giver, not known for his personality. He was like, we're gonna go out there and and we're gonna we're gonna put ourselves together. You can see like all the all the teammates like looking at each other, like all right, Joe, just let's

play the game. Or somebody else speak Joe, Joe, do what you do best. Sanially Aaron Donald yesterday for the Rams, by the way, two sacks and forced to fumble. Remember he did he did this against the Chiefs. To Aaron Donald, this never happens, right, they don't give an m v P to an defensive player, but if they did, he's your guy. Defensive he won it last year. He won

the Defensive Player of the Year last year. But again uh in this one, two sacks forced a fumble helps steal the win by forcing Matthew Stafford to fumble midway through the fourth quarter. He had two strip sacks if you remember, in that fifty one win over k C NFL high sixteen and a half sacks through three quarters

of the season. And once again Sampson epycam just like he did in that Chiefs game, he recovered one of Stafford's fumbles that Donald poked out of Stafford's hands at the Detroit Gurly scored on the thirtier thirteen yard run rather three steps later, giving the Rams a twenty three to thirteen lead. But Golf was not sharp through a pick on an overthrown pass in the second quarter, lost

the fumble in third quarter. So here's the other one now that we got to talk about Todd Gurley yesterday, Vinny, remember in that Green Bay game, he correctly, on his way to the end zone decided to sit down at the one yard line, ensuring that Aaron Rodgers would never get on the field and have a chance to come back and win that game. Yesterday on the north side of the two minute warning if you will, girly herd down.

Late in the game, he broke free and instead of going into the end zone, he immediately does a right angle to the right. It's ninety degrees by the way, tree folks, uh, and he just sort of tiptoes the sidelines and the side. You know what, I'm just gonna waste some time. Think about Todd Gurley though for a second.

Forget the betting implications of it, just from a selfless standpoint, that his head is that much in the game that at that moment he's like, in his brain, we can we can debate the merits of it in a minute, but in his brain he's like, this is a better way for us to win. This will maximize our chances to win. Good for him in control um cerebral right, you can say you could say a lot of things. I mean, betters will say different things then, yeah, I

mean Todd gurls he dustined for coaching. Maybe Gurley does not care about your best fantasy team. You know, listen, he's he's an m VP candidate, but maybe not for not for all betters. He chose not to score ran more time off the clock force Detroit to take time outs. UM. After the game, Girly said, quote, I wanted to waste some time unquote, So I just wanted to waste some times.

By the way, there was a play at the end of the Steel when the Chargers had to ball remember the running back get his name brand out of bounds because Steels could have they would have been forced to use their last out there on that last drive. Anyway, I worked out good for him, But I just a complete opposite of what you're describing with Todd Gurley. Yeah, forced Detroit stake time outs proved to be a good move.

Gurley ran for a two yard score anyway, with one fifty four left, lines were left with no time outs on their final drive. That drive ended with Troy Hill picking off a pass at the end zone with twelve seconds left. UM. Now, again, the Rams were favored by ten in the end or nine and a half somewhere in there, so that one from seven to fourteen. So when he didn't score that one, you know, Rams betters were just dying. And and again it was the right

move against the Packers. It can be debated whether or not it was it will overkill in this game, because what's wrong with going up fourteen points for God's six? I get the sentiment, don't get me wrong, but you know I keep to lead back for the Rams, by the way, first time since going down with an ankle injury in Week three. And Brandon Cooks first player NFL history a thousand yards receiving three straight years, three different franchises New Orleans. He actually did twice with New Orleans

New England Rams. How how does that happen? By the way, I mean, Brandon Cooks is so good and he has somehow been lucky enough to be traded to a better team, lucky every every time. I mean, I mean, right lucky? Or what is it about his game that people feel the need that weird? It's weird? Yeah, yeah, I guess

it's weird. Chase Daniel for the Bears yesterday twenty six, thirty nine in defeat against the Giants to eighty five, one touchdown, two picks sacked five times to Rake one for one through the air, game tying touchdown at the buzzer um on a trickeration play. Eight carries thirty yards,

well catches one fifty six. Tarik Cohen Honorary Tribesman. Chicago forced overtime by getting a twenty one yard field go by Cody Parkey in a one yard touchdown again from Charike to Anthony Miller's time expired in the fourth quarter. Trick played touchdown set up by a recovered onside kick by Daniel Brown, which Odell Beckham Jr. Was not that interested in getting after. I just want to point that out. Tarik Cohen just tweeted in his mom did not traumatize

him five years old. Tarik didn't have that experience. He's yeah, I'm sorry. No, no giants. Two penalties on the game, try and drive. It was an amazing game Chicago. A nose tackle, a cheam Hicks harkening back to the refrigerator Perry. He scored on a fourth down and one dive Bears fumble. Here's the stat of this game. You talked about fumble luck that didn't end up manifesting, but very well could have the Bears end up losing this game. But if they had one, this would have been the stat of

the game. The Bears fumbled six times and lost one, including like three on that final r They were just bumbling all over the place. Daniel had four fumbles on his own, didn't lose any of them. Rams at Bears Sunday night to division leaders, and one of which has already clinched the division. The Rams Rams eleven and one, Bears eight and four. I'll say the Rams listen after seeing the Rams just underperform on the road more than once. Now it's gonna be the Rams minus three and that's

it three and a half. I don't I don't think they I don't think they should have the hook here. It may not, may not keep it, may not keep it. All right, let's do Monday real quick. Okay, Monday night game the Vikings in Seattle to play the Seahawks. That is a game with implications right there. Well, and and think about this. So the Vikings in New England yesterday home and now head to the complete opposite coast right northwest on the least to the northwest. On the one hand,

that's nice. That's the nice part about being in the middle of the country where you can sort of have that rights with this same it was. It was in reverse though I think it was in Seattle and then New England. Right, Vikings lose to the Patriots. As we talked about the Vikings are six, five and one, Seattle

beats the nine or Seattle seven and five. So this is these are the two teams right now that hold the one and two wild card positions at this very moment in the NFC, although I guess you could technically can say Washington without playing is in there too. Cousins Yesterday thirty two and forty four is such a typical Kirk Cousins game, thirty two oh one, one touchdown, two picks, back two times three for twelve on third down. That's

what the Vikings were. Vikings have lost two of three, but the two interceptions were too late interceptions by Kirk Cousins. Just how it, just how it works with Kirk sometimes. Vikings entered the game allowing the third fewest rushing yards in the league, ninety three point six yards of game. New England got a hundred sixty yards on the ground. Too late interceptions again for Cousins. And then there's Russell Wilson,

the model of efficiency. Russell Wilson eleven of seventeen Vinnie against the Niners for four touchdowns, no picks, so eleven completions, four of which were touchdowns, sack three times Jared Brown by the way, three catches, sixty seven, two touchdowns for the Seahawks. Three first half touchdown passes four Wilson on four completions. Let me rebeat that. In the first half yesterday, Russell Wilson completed four passes, three for touchdowns. Third straight

win for the Seahawks, twenty two nothing lead. They beat the Niners for the ninth straight time. He's not going to win it, But where would the Seahawks be without Russell Wilson's not gonna win the m v P. So if there's an m v P candidate again, he's not gonna going to win it. But according to sport Radar, Wilson throwing three touchdowns and four completions fewest touchdowns per completions in the first half dating back to previous lowest six.

All that said, Seahawks minus three. I won't even think it hard through. You know, I think I think it too hard through. It's it's it's minus three. It's a field goal there, it is exactly Okay, all right, we'll review all of these not much. You'll find something, but again, these are just first reactions. I'm sure by the end of the week I'll love beat it in my head around hundred times and we'll come up with something. We'll review these well, we'll see where if there is value,

where it lies. It's a numbers game. Vidian for Chrissy right here on visa. Back to a numbers game with your host Gil Alexander, broadcasting live from our visa in studios in Las Vegas. Shout out to Russell Johnson on Twitter russ underscore Johnson ten who says he's streaming a numbers game from thirty thousand feet up on Delta Airlines right now. Keep up the good work, boys. Got a nice picture of you on Twitter. Really yeah, I'm thirty

thousand feet Yeah, man, I'm blowsome. Thank you went all out. Thank you, Russell, appreciate that. Let's review these, Vinnie, do we find any value? I'm not sure we did that. Well, let's let's start from the top. Thursday night Jaguars Titans. You nailed it four and a half and these are the south Point openers. Next we start on Sunday Ravens Chiefs seven opener, Gil with a seven colts at the

Texans Texans open four and a half. Here at the South Point you said four here's one a little bit different. Panthers South Point opener of one against the Browns in Cleveland. You said two and a half, So perhaps, uh, I mean you like the Panthers even last week, though I was like I had three, it was three and a half. I had more outrage at that. Okay. Um, the Falcons in Green Bay to play the Packers, first game without Mike McCarthy. You know quite a while, this is a

little high. Well, Packers six. We opened at six. You said four and a half and a half. I thought that one was high. Okay. Saints in Tampa to play the Buccaneers, except for the fact that Falcons are probably just quitting at this point. Okay, there's that, but both teams, you know, Packers new coach, I'm sorry, go ahead, Saints, we opened it eight, you said seven. Jets in Buffalo to play the Bills. Bills South Point open up three and a half, you said four. Probably get the four?

Really with with the Jets even if Donald comes back. Patriots, how did that go the other way with McCown, Like McCown should be better than Darnald the other way? That was surprising. Should point that out. Patriots in Miami to play the Dolphins. Uh, Patriots opened eight. You said seven and a half. I could see the Dolphins keeping that close. Let's we'll skip the We'll get to the flex game later.

A Giant's Redskins in Washington. Even though Redskins are playing tonight, it is opened here at the South Point one and a halfs Uh three, Broncos five and a half you said five, Bengals, Chargers charges fourteen and a half. You said thirteen. Spot on Lions two and a half in Arizona, Cowboys four. You're gonna wait, you said three to four. You're right there. Pittsburgh Steelers eleven and a half. Here you said ten and a half. Flex scheme, he rams

three and a half. You said three. Okay, we'll find more value as the week goes on.