Beating The Book: 2019 Week 16 NFL Guessing Lines Show with Chris Andrews

I try to guess the lines for next week's NFL games. Chris tells me what he'll post it and after the show, and within that process, perhaps some extraction of value should be fun. We'll go through all the playoffs scenarios as well, guessing lines with Chrissie Andrews right here on the Beating the Book Podcast. Enjoy. It's a numbers game, kil Alexander wants to believe in. It is a numbers game right here at Visa Vegas Stats and Information Network series except

Channel two oh four Visa dot Com. The Visa have fobos Ling and Game Plus on down the line Guessing Lines, Week sixteen. Jeff, we have so much to get to today. It's ridiculous how much there is talking about in the NFL. Well, of course, go over all the games yesterday when we discussed next week's games. Of the process, what were you telling me, Jeff right there, to look up what's going on? What's going on? So it's just I was just telling you which clock to look at the clock, that our

normal clock is correct. The clock that is right in front of you is incorrect. I see, I see Jeff Parlay is here. That's the voice of Jeff Parley, producing number five and of course the star of guessing lines ladies and gentlemen. He's the sports book director here at the South Point Hotel Casino. It's Chris Andrews. Good morning, Chrissy. What's going on now? How is the weekend? Weekend was well,

you know, Buffalo made it all good for me? Last night wasn't wasn't so fun before that yesterday for me because I had the Skins among others, which of course we'll get we'll get too momentarily. How was it from a book perspective? Sarah, uh, not good? First of all, Saturday was terrible just because Joe Burrow find the heisman, which we you know, we saw a comment for like the last month, but there was really nothing we could

do about it. We owned them two D one, didn't have that much money on them, but enough where we've lost you know, not quite six figures, but you know, just shying at uh and we just didn't have enough to make up for it. And then yesterday, the morning started out disastrous, but we made a little comeback in the late games and then the Pittsburgh and actually worked that well for us, So even though I was still rooting for my Steelers, but nonetheless worked out well for

the book. And you know, the one up slightly on the plus for yesterday, but very very slightly. By the way, about that Joe Burrow thing, almost five of the Heisman ballots, Joe Burrow set the record. He beat Troy Smith's record for the largest percentage of first place votes ever um, which we sort of predicted here on a numbers game might happen. But the fact that almost five percent of the of the ballots did not have his name on

them at all, that needs parlay. That's an investigation in the Heisman voting, Like those people should have their ballots removing. What is that about? Why do they have votes? You didn't put Burrow on the ballot. He and I were talking about that over the weekend, like this ridiculous. So I'll ask few Tech about that tomorrow. He's got a Heisman vote. Let's find out. Let's find out. I use one of them. We'll try to extract, we'll take away

his Heisman vote. I don't think a few Tech was one who didn't that Burrow on the ballot, but we'll find out what how he voted. Chris, we gotta do this, uh immediately without the pleasantries, because there's so much to get to this week. Let us begin with Thursdays. Uh no, Thursday their Saturday? Which Saturday? Time of year? Yeah? Second, did I get the wrong schedule here? No, we got Saturday games. Um, that's how Cocoon died. Am Chris Rams

at San Francisco. We have three Saturday games, three Saturdays, San Francisco. Okay, No, Thursday game five were scheduled, but we have three, and as ram San Francisco the first of the three Saturday games pronologically, well, Jeff is telling me, no, first one, it's first in the rotation, but last time wise, So how do you want to do it? Let's do it chronologically what's first, then, Yeah, Houston at Tampa Bay. Houston at Tampa Bay. Alright, we're off to a raring start, alright.

Houston at Tampa Bay. Houston with the win over Tennessee yesterday to twenty one to take the lead in the a f C South, they can clinch the a f C South by the win. By the way, with a win in this game against Tampa Bay, Kamie fair bar and twenty nine yard field goal with three twenty six remaining yesterday provide ultimately the winning margin. Texans scored ten straight points in the fourth quarter to break up in

a fourteen fourteen game. They get that field goal to win nine plus wins for the fifth time and six seasons under Bill O'Brien. De Shawn Yesterday seven for two forty three, two touchdowns, two picks and a sack, Carlos Hide for one, oh Florida touchdown. DeAndre Hopkins six catches for one nineteen Tennessee intercepted to Shawn twice inside the

Titans five maybe even inside the one. Really uh Tannehill though, the biggest play of this game was when it was zero to zero and Tannehill was picked at the goal line. Um Titans had first and goal at the five. Anthony first Girl popped out on a hit by Reid. Then Whitney Merciless got it out of the air ran at eighty six yards to the Tennessee fourteen, basically flipping the field. Watson hit Kenny Stills a couple of plays later to give the Texans a seven to nothing lead. And that's

really how that game changed. Could have gone completely different if the item's punch it in there, but it's dead. Texans stake the lead and again they can clinch their division with a win over Tampa Bay. In this game, Tampa Bay now has won four straight and five of six. Tampa Bay gets it done beating Detroit thirty eight to seventeen. They took a big lead, then it got closed, then

they took another big lead. Jamis Winston Chris forty two for four fifty eight, four touchdowns, one pick, two sacks. He was playing with a small fracture in his right thumb, didn't have Mike Evans, who was out with the hamstring injury.

He's out for the year, but Jamis becomes the first player in the history of the National Football League to throw for four hundred fifty plus yards in consecutive games for fifty six last week for fifty eight yesterday, Cheez set career highs with two d one yards passing in the first quarter three oh eight by halftime. Godwin was his big target five for one twenty one. Then he left the game with hamstring injury in the third quarter, so Paramant actually was the big one five for one thirteen,

three touchdowns. The one thirteen and the three touchdowns all career highs for a guy who was gonna sign in Cleveland. And then when they signed O b J, he was like, oh, go elsewhere. Total yards for the Bucks for only forty nine of those on the ground, What do they care? Bucks are seven and seven now good for Bruce Arians, Jamis Winston and the Bucks. All that said, interconference game means big things to the Texans. Bucks just trying to finish strong. I will I split the difference between the

three and the zero. I say Texans minus one and a half on the road. It's one and a half and two. Gil, I see both numbers. I thought, this is a really tough number to make, you know, just it's hard for me to get a good gauge. Well really on either teams. Like you said, Houston, that game quote really turned around quite easily. And Tampa Bay, well, first of all, we've got flooded with Tampa Bay money all week, and the Detroit kind of got back in the game. I thought we had a chance to to

to tie it. Actually we really needed Detroit balley. It was a terrible game for us. So I had a lot of trouble making this number. Uh, I'm gonna go with one and a half, so I kind of like your number, but which one and a half and two? It's hard to tick her with either of those, neither one key numbers. But should be a good game to start our Saturday. And uh, you know, people really knocked Bill O'Brien quite a bit. Maybe I still have a little of allegiance to him since he really rescued Penn

State after the Sandusky the bak off there. But that guy is a pretty good coach, I think, And I'm not sure why I gets knocked quite so much. But anyway, Houston one and a half, Houston one and a half. It is, Yeah, Bill O'Brien again, nine plus wins for the fifth time in six seasons. Uh. There in Houston, the only issue with the Texas is and this is just sort of just peeling away for a second and trying to look at them big picture. They are just

so untrustworthy from week to week, right. I Mean, we'd say that's about a bunch of teams. But for a team with a nine and five record, do you trust them in any single game? I do not. So from a betting standpoint, they're still very, uh, very tough for me to get behind them. Like I said, if that play doesn't happen, if the merciless pick that goes a D six yards the other way doesn't happen, maybe it's a totally different outcome. Yesterday was game number two on Saturday.

I would agree game number two good one. Buffalo at New England. Dude, that is good. Buffalo at New England. Buffalo clinches a playoff berth last night. That's two out of the last three years under Sean McDermott. They won for the fourth time in five games with their win yesterday last night over Pittsburgh seventeen to ten. Uh. The

total ended up being thirty seven. It goes under comfortably. Uh. Josh Allen thirteen of twenty five for one thirty nine one touchdown one Picky Sack once also rushed for a score by the way through a fourteen yard touchdown past the Tyler Croft with seven fifty five to play last night, Bills beat the Steelers as a menu clinch the playoff berth. Consecutive picks by Duck Hodges to end this game to Jordan Poyer and then on a subsequent drive to Levi

Wallace at sealed the victory for the Bills. And then there's the Patriots. They went to Cincinnati. It was tough early, but then they broke away. They clinched a playoff berth through the Patriots for their eleventh straight season. That extends the NFL record. They win the a f C East for the eleventh straight season with a win in either of their final two games, so either Week sixteen or Week seventeen they get the division two tenth straight season

with eleven plus wins. That extends the records. And Bill Belichick the first NFL coach to reach the playoffs in eleven straight seasons. Just ridiculous. Some franchises like I don't know, the Redskins just to name one, could barely get there at all. These guys do it every year, no problem. Brady fifteen of twenty nine for one, two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked twice. Uh. He is one shy of Peyton Manning's career record for most touchdowns. He's got five

thirty eight. But he missed open receivers yesterday numerous times in this game. It is really not sharp Tom Brady anymore. Uh. They were plus five in turnovers. That was really the story of that game. Since he had five turnovers, the Patriots had none. Stefan Gilmore returning one of New England's four second half picks sixty four yards for a score. That was the big play of the game. Patriots played man to man in the second half. Just dared Andy

Dalton a b him. He couldn't. Fourth time this season that the Patriots have picked off four passes in the game. Wow, fourth time a quartet of picks. I will say, New England minus four and a half, big game with division implications. You're like, it's mostly six and a half. I like six better, and I do see some sixes out there, and that is what I'm gonna open this game. Um. First of all, Brady, you know, just did not look good and I had queued up. I didn't do it.

I had queued up a picture of like Father Time, you know, to go and google there's images father Time. And I was gonna plead it out because there was ten ten. I mean, this game was, you know, really hanging in the batance. Obviously we needed since and on outright victory would have been great, but you know it was that defense again. They came through for New England. Four picks, like you said, one one return for a touchdown.

Um that this team, though, it really does remind me of the Denver Broncos Super Bowl winning team in Peyton Manning's final year, where Peyton was really a shell of himself. Uh, you know, the defense carried them and they won the Super Bowl. I think when we look back in history, it's one of the worst Super Bowl winners for one of the first, one of the worst teams to win

a Super Bowl in history. And I'm not saying that the Patriots are probably better than that team and Brady it makes a little better than what Peyton Manning was at that point, but he's just really not that good. I'm not sure he's even an average quarterback at this point. On the other side, Alan Um you look at this pass rating sixty point three, which is awful. There's QBR fifty nine point four, and I think that's a much more accurate picture. Uh, the guy made some big plays

when he has You know, it wasn't great. Fifteen nine point four isn't a great QVR, but it's good and it fits this team well. And that's what I've been saying. Is he a great quarterback? No, definitely not. Is he a good quarterback questionable? Do he fit this team? Yes? And that I think there's gonna be a determining factor and make them very dangerous in the playoffs if they get the game where they can kind of control the tempo. And I think this game is really kind of gonna

be played at their tempo. It's not the high scoring game that we maybe we'd be used through out in New England. Totals thirty eight and a half. I think that's probably about right. So I like the lower number here. I'm gonna open six. They might bet me up on this one, but I'm a little closer to your number than I am in the With the six and a half, it's the predominant number. Anti six is a good place to start. Thirty eight and a half, as you mentioned

on the total. Interesting, Yeah, I think that's too many points. I do. I think that's too many points. I like buffalo here, if you're giving me all those points, and you said it perfectly. I think about Josh Allen. No one's anointing him, no one's saying he's elite, but we all owe him a big apology, don't we. From the consensus sort of prognostication on how you know successful, he'd

be at this level doing quite well. As the Bills are headed to the playoffs for the second time in three years, let's do the final game on Saturday, then the one that you started with. Yeah, first in the rotation. But last thing the U chronologically is Rams at San Francisco. Talking about teams you can't trust, how about the l A Rams. They look like Gangbusters last Sunday night against the Seahawks. Yeah, it was probably a down spot for

the Seahawks. But nonetheless the Rams come out against the Cowboys yesterday and just get rolled. Rams can still make the playoffs. But here's the deal. They need two wins and two Vikings losses to clinch a playoff. Berth. That's what it comes down to for the Rams, who are now eight and six. Jared golf I won't even go through his stats because they were all pretty much a massed in garbage time. Here's all you need to know about the Rams and the Cowboys yesterday, Cowboys winning forty

four to twenty one. Uh. They were out rushed the Rams by the Cowboys two sixty three to twenty two. Yes, Todd Gurley eleven carries for twenty yards as schizophrenic season of Todd Gurley continues. The Niners, even in defeat, Niners lose at the gun to the Falcons. Two reviews late in that game. Finally, the second one goes the Falcons way Julio Jones over the plane and the Niners lose outright to the Falcons, who were ultimately in that Uh. In that game, we're ten and a half, ten point

dogs somewhere in that pocket. But the Niners lose outright twenty two. Why the seven points because again there was a last play of the game that uh that included an extra touchdown. But they still clinch a playoff berth with that Rams loss yesterday do the Niners, so they're in the playoffs. Here's how the Niners get back to the number one seed. It's very simple. They just win their last two games. Easier said than done, but it's still on their on their racket. They get the number

one seed if they win their final two games. Now, their three losses this year are all in the final seconds, to the Seahawks, to the Ravens, and to the foul Skins yesterday, all on the last play of the game. So and by the way that Seattle loss, man, do they want to go back? And uh, I wish they played that sequence in overtime differently, not that you know what, Maybe it would have been the same situation. Maybe they still would have had to win out at this point.

But two Falcons touchdowns in the final five seconds yesterday, a pair of replay reversals in the last eight tikes of the clock, including Austin Hooper's apparent touchdown reception being ruled no good and then Julio Jones touchdown being ruled correct by the way, the h being being valid. Secondary from the Niners was missing three guys yesterday. Richard Sherman, uh Wisky Tart and Kawan Williams were all out for the Niners yesterday. Rams At Niners. I think the Niners

mounts back. I think the perception of them is still as high as it ever was, and I think people go back to thinking the Rams are just us. It's just a lost season for the Rams. I'll say the Niners minus six. Your cab like six and a half, and I think that's a good number myself. I think seven probably be a little too high, just a tad cheeks. I'm gonna open six and a half. By the way, I have to correct one thing. He said. The Falcon

scored two touchdowns in the last five seconds. They scored two touchdowns in the final two seconds, and of course the last one pushed the game over and it cost us. I mean, if I even have to tell you that, Yeah, of course we were. We were. We were crazy about that first to now, but not the second one. So anyway, are you gonna do his laugh? But at six and a HAPs when I'm gonna go with, I think that's a good number. Six and a half. I could live

with that, all right. Of those three Buffalo, give me Buffalo, I think that's too many points. I'll take the Bills in that game against the Patriots with the points, we'll come back and yes we will talk about the whole coin flip ridiculousness in that Cowboys Ramps game. When we get to the Cowboys whole bunch of refereeing errors yesterday, we gotta get to We'll get to it all. It's a roll brought to you by the bet MGMP here on a numbers game at visa holiday season of course,

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special issue as part of their paid subscription. So now's a good time to check out our all access packages and go to a free trial at Visa dot Com slash subscribe. That's Visa dot Com slash subscribe. It's Kill Alexander, It's Jeff Parlay, It's Christy Andrew's everybody my Misha guessing lines Week sixteen in the National Football ag I've already landed on Buffalo. That's one already. Uh, Chrissie. Hopefully there's no delay. We had a strange delay in the first segment.

Technology trying to torpedo us. Are you there? You good? I am here. Hopefully we don't have the delay. I think we have. We have ever raised the delay. No delay from here for we we rebooted patient X loose in the corner, rebooted, so we're good to go, all right, Chris what's next. We go to Sunday? Now, right, Okay, we go to Sunday. The next two games in the rotations that moved to the afternoon. So do you want to do next in the rotation or time sequence? Let's

do time sequence. Let's do chronologically. Okay, Jacksonville and Avoyana to five and nine teams. There's a couple who cares games. There's a few of them this week. Yeah, I won't linger on the Falcons. Is as we mentioned, good effort by the Falcons yesterday against the Niners ten and a half for ten point dogs depending where you got it, closing there four and two since they started one and seven. So good for Dan Quinn, good for Matt Ryan, Julio

Jones finally showed up yesterday. Uh five and nine? Though where were they earlier in the season. As far as Jacksonville's concerned, Jacksonville who was losing games by ridiculous amounts of points, and Jeff and I had this exchange here a couple of times where I was like, should be careful about saying teams of quit and I was like, maybe you're right about Jacksonville, though, boy they look terrible.

Two D sixty two total yards. They fall behind Oakland yesterday sixteen to three in the last game at the Oakland, Alama County Coliseum, and then Gardner Minshew two touchdown passes to Chris Conney in the final five fifteen of that game Jaguar spoil the final game at the Colisseum. They beat the Raiders twenty to sixteen as a dog, as a specifically as a six and a half point dog in that game. Minshew after the game, quote, probably saw

more middle fingers today than I have in my whole life. Unquote. Welcome to an Oakland Raiders game. Uh and and and the Raiders fans booing Derek Carr for some reason after that game. But here, here's the deal with this game. Maybe I should have saved this part for the Raiders. I'll save it for the Raiders. But the way the Raiders lost that game. I had this whole long conversation with e about it yesterday. My buddy, you know where

he had, He was on the Raiders. He had the money line, so he was really, really and justifiably piste about how the refs screwed the Raiders. We'll get to that. When we talked about the Raiders But what I said to him was that you're right about that. But then the Raiders compounded it like they just didn't keep their heads in it and they did something really stupid. We'll get to that. But Jacksonville wins this um doesn't matter both of them in Atlanta or five and nine. It's

at Atlanta, you said, I'll say Atlanta minus seven. Wow, you're right on. I think that's a little high, but I'm gonna go ahead open the set. I'm open seven. I just don't want to mess with a six and a seven things. I think that's a shade high, kind of like Jacksonville here at Lanta. Every time you start believing in them, they revert to some of their old habits. So I think a shade high. I don't want to dwell too much on it. Let me just say the

Jacksonville game really rescued us yesterday. That was big. Then I'm sorry he lost his money I had. You know, I'm in a couple of contests. I had the Raiders and every one of them at sixteen nothing. I thought. I worked coast and I'm the smartest guy that's ever lived. That wasn't to be. But jack Law and that showed a lot of guts and I was a team that you know, maybe did quit and going into uh, you know, horn Ands Nest in uh in Oakland, I'm surprised they

showed up. But they did. Absolutely they did, and they didn't quit at all. They played very tough. I I like seven, I'm gonna go with, but I think it's a little high. A little high, okay, but seven is what you're starting with. Uh. I have the Raider. I had the Raiders yesterday in Circa. But I will tell you this for for the off the grid season win stock Market thing, I do like I've faded the Raiders, and it looked like I was just gonna get crushed by the Raiders quick start to the season. It has

all come back to me. That was such a massive outcome for me yesterday and we might as well just say it right now for those who missed it. The Raiders tried to run out the clock, got a pair of first down and runs from Josh Jacobs another from Derek Carr, but the game really came down to this. It looked like the Raiders had sealed this game. With two oh five left, It looked like they had sealed the game, Derek Carr trying to slide down in bound.

He absolutely slid inbounds, um sparing and it would spared the Jaguars from using a time out. But what they did is the refs ruled hit out of bounds. So you you and I'll go through it play by play, But essentially what happens is Derek Carr ran the ball for thirteen yards north of the two minute morning, so with more than two minutes left in the game, he got a first down and looked like he slid in

bounds that would keep the clock rolling. Instead, what ends up happening is the refs rule it out of bounds. It stops the clock with two oh five left, Car thinking that the clock was rolling down the two minute warning late to the huddle. They get a five yard penalty. Okay, no big deal. They run Josh Jacobs into the it's still first down, first and fifteen. Now, uh, Jaguars still

only have one time out left. So even though the refs prevented them from clinching the victory right there, because the Jaguars will only have one time out on the other side of the two minute warning, you know they still could could manipulate this where the Jaguars gonna only get the ball back with very little time left, so they run Josh Jacobs into the into the line, two

minute warning. Second down, they run Josh Jacobs in and the third down again, Jaguars used their final time out, and then on third and eleven, which would have been a forty nine yard field, well, if they don't get any if they don't advance the ball anymore, instead of running it and taking forty seconds off the clock, they throw it in complete and it stops the clock. And

the announcer said nothing. They say nothing about this, and I'm thinking, as a guy who wants Jacksonville to win at this point for my season long thing, I'm going crazy. I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe they did that. They try a forty nine yard field, it misses, They call a penalty on Jacksonville. They get another shot at it misses again. Jacksonville with the shorter field with just a touchdown to win the game, and unbelo eviable confluence

of events won. The refs destroy the Raiders there, and then the Raiders compound their own problem. And the announcer said nothing about that ladder thing. But I will say this, what we learned yesterday in NFL. In the NFL is we know nothing. We learned new things every week. We've been watching this sport for our entire lives. We find out that that is not reviewable, but Derek Carr slide is apparently not reviewable, but a coin flip and the tape that is involved in a coin flip in Dallas

that apparently can get reviewed in New York. So we know nothing about this sport, Chris, that we've watched our entire lives. I said, you know, when I mentioned it before, when I was briefly I wasn't employed by William Hill, but with Calton Eva when William Hill is behind them, Yeah, they wanted me to help them with some of the uh uh, the in game stuff. I just I mean, it's like impossible, you know what I mean. I mean, listen, it is possible, but it's extremely difficult because the scoring

is just totally bizarre. You know, we have come to accept it. But between referee calls and you know, seven essentially for a touchdown, three for field goal. You mentioned the tennesseee game where it looks like Tennessee is gonna score seven the other team scores seven. I mean, it's just crazy. Or basketball. Listen, you you blow a lay up or you know, or a turnover in mid court, the other team goes in, they get tooled. You know, Okay, there's gonna be scored in the Game's not that big

a deal, but this one is monstrous. And uh, you know that's a couple of perfect examples right there. And uh, you know, I had the game. I turned the sound bot and you're right, the announcers and actually got who they were. Didn't say a word about didn't say a word. It didn't say a word like that was the biggest decision of the game. You know. Uh, just the the inability to understand when probability by NFL coaches at that point in game. It's just at that point in games

is just unbelievable. Anyway, we're not even at the Raiders yet, but Atlanta and minus seven was my guest, And you're opening it at what against Jacksonville. No, I'm gonna open seven, but I gets a little high, Yeah, but I'm gonna. I don't want to mess with that number, So I'm gonna open seven. All right, what's another one here? New Orleans at Tennessee, so New Orleans. We haven't seen New

Orleans tonight taking on the Indianapolis Colts. New Orleans has already clinched a playoff birth their nine point favorite tonight against the Colts. By the way, if the Colts lose, their eliminated from playoff contention, so the proverbial must win situation for the Colts tonight um Tennessee. As we mentioned, four game winning streaks snapped, they can still win the a f C South, can the Titans if they win their final two games and Houston loses to Tampa Bay

this Saturday, which we just spoke about. Six straight games with twenty plus points in the second half for Tennessee. But as we mentioned, uh didn't get it done yesterday. Dug themselves a hole. Couldn't get out of it, Ryan suck up. By the way, one of six since being activated off the i R for the Titans. Is that good? One of six bill goals? I'll say New Orleans minus two and a half, though we haven't seen New Orleans play yet. Yeah, it's it's one and a half. I

think that's a decent number right there. I think it could go a little bit higher, but I want to want to go to high with this Tennessee. Like I said, I still think, you know, a well coached team, a good getting good quarterback play. You know, they blew the game yesterday, there's no doubt. But let's not remember too much of what happens just last week and Uh Tennessee, you know, certainly playing for their lives, and I think that does tend to get a little bit overrated. Kink

wanted to have some decent Numbreds, but I'm gonna open it. Okay, problem with that? Give me another one. Oh you'll love this one. Giants at the Redskins. Giants at the Redskins. Everybody who's watching that, if you're not betting on it, certainly Skins fans won't be there. I promise you that that place was overrun by Philly fans once again yesterday. Giants at three and eleven Redskins or three at eleven. Um Giant snapped a nine game losing streak, Gay franchise

record tying nine game losing streak yesterday. That was really an Eli Manning uh Swan song yesterday. If that if you believe that's his final uh start at Giants Stadium. Yesterday against the Dolphins. That was the way to go out, thirty six to twenty win for the Giants. Uh as three and a half point favorites. Yesterday against the Dolphins,

Manning was twenty two eighty three, two touchdowns. He was picked three times, he sacked once, but he led the Giants the three touchdowns on their first five possessions in the second half. Choked back tears after the game. Sixteen years with the New York Giants, two time Super Bowl m v P. Se Kwan was good yesterday twelve two touchdowns. Shepard was his best target nine for one eleven. And then there's the Redskins. My goodness for those of us who had the Redskins estion name. By the way, what

was all that money on the Eagles overnight? Like? What? Why was there so much conviction on the Eagles. I know it ended up working out, but please, the Redskins were never the wrong side in that game until the very let's play they lose the Redskins due to the Eagles thirty seven to twenty seven, and don't cover they were six and a half point dogs. Uh. Dwayne Haskins nineteen two sixty one. I don't even know. I didn't need to, don't even need to go through the numbers.

They lead the Eagles seven to three, fourteen to ten, twenty one to seventeen, and twenty seven to twenty four. As urban Meyer looked on from Dan Snyder's box. Don't think you should read into that. But a four yard pats from Winz to Greg Ward twenty six seconds left put Philly up for good. And then for those of us who had the Skins, we knew to watch it to the very end because I'm like, please, don't do anything dumb, Please don't do anything dumb. And then there's

Dwayne Haskins on the final play of the game. He's about to get sacked, so he just decides, you know what, I'm just gonna throw this backwards just to see if something could happen. Well, something did happen. Nigel Bradham grabbed it forty seven yards of the house uh ninety two percent of the money at Borgata on the Philadelphia Eagles. They go nuts and the Eagles cover the Redskins. Don't so feel good story with Eli Manning and the Giants.

Horrible story for Redskins betters. Both teams are three and eleven. I'll say the Redskins minus three, just because, yeah, it's a little high, you're a little high. It's two and a half. I keep two and a half with some juice on the dog, two of some juice on the favorite. You know, I had two teams kind of penciled in here for big emotional letdowns. Uh, Oakland would be one of them. But the Giants or the other one, you know, I think they really wanted to win that game for Eli.

They played about as good as the Giants could play. I watched it. That was a terrible result for us. Terrible. Jimmy posted that one ticket on the Eagles minus six and alf for fifty thousand. You know, but obviously that guy's hopefully bought a lottery ticket last night or something. Anyway, UM, yeah, I'm gonna go with two and a half. I wouldn't be surprised this game goes to three, though. I think it's gonna They're just gonna see a big emotional heads

down from the Jackets after winning that game. For I've gotta be elive Swan song. You gotta figure in New York. So I hope he retires, I really do ye, But two and a half. I think that's a little light. I see it lower, or I would open it three. But it's two and a half. Should I say it? Gil? I like the Redskins this week? Racket? Jeff Racket say that I like the Redskins this week. Uh, you know the Redskins Eagles thing. It describes it. It absolutely embodies

my season. Very first week of the season, Redskins are at Philly. I had the Eagles. The Eagles went way down, remember they trailed seventeen to nothing. They came all the way back, they even went in to cover position, up double digits, and then the Redskins converted a fourth and six and a fourth and twelve on the final drive of the game to back door the Eagles. And those of us who had the Eagles on the on the on the spread, now I had the Redskins in this game.

And then the most ridiculous alcohol of it all. That is my season in a nutshell book ended by Redskins Eagles ridiculous outcomes. Um. Last thing about this, Eli Manning Philip Rivers tied forever in history, Tied together because of the two thousand four NFL Draft, where there was the swapping, the the Eli didn't want to play for the Chargers, um, but they ended up going uh, you know, top two

quarterbacks in that draft. They've had these careers now where Eli, as I just mentioned, sixteen seasons, he's five hundred as a starter, gets back to five, but he's two times Super Bowl m v P, two times Super Bowl m VP, having beaten the Patriots, and most famously the undefeated Patriots team or the would be undefeated Patriots team in two

thousand seven. And then there's Philip Rivers, who I believe had a better career than Eli Manning did, just in terms of stats and and and real you know, um day to day or week to week football, had a better career than Eli Manning did, despite ellies to amaze seminal performances. But Philip Rivers looks so bad now that you almost wonder if he has another season this bad,

it's going to take away from his resume. So my question is, those two guys tied forever in history and football history together, who would you put in the Hall of Fame both either and if so, whom, Well, personally, I say Eli, I know it's personal on my part just for denying the Patriots two more Super Bowls and yeah, does it sounds a little bitter on my part? I

guess it does. But I would do it just for that, you know that, and you know that's me, And I don't think so the Rivers deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. I'm sorry, you know, a very very good career, but not great. I think they both end up in the Hall of Fame. And I'm not so sure either deserves it, but I think they both end up there. That's my that's my prediction. We'll see. Well, I'm not sure either deserves it. Like, yeah, I'm not sure he'd dessert, but how would put just for that

strictly personal reason. Yeah, we'll come back. We'll get some more lines. Much to talk about week sixteen, looking ahead week fifteen in the rear view, we'll talk about it all, guessing lines right here exclusively on a numbers game with Chris Andrews, right here at the Sports Betting Network. Welcome back to a numbers game with Kill Alexander. You know, many people don't know this because we don't mention it all the time. Chrissie Andrews, inventor of the pleaser, at

least the term pleaser. Uh, this is Mitch Moss, who does follow the Money, of course with Paul Howard. Before this show, the Gentile version of the show, as we like to finally call it, he handed me this reverse teaser card here that you guys have at the South Point Chris, before I got on the air, and he says, look at this. Ten of them hit. It's just it's ridiculous. He's right. Ten of these legs hit on the reverse teaser Bucks, Pats, Chiefs, Giants, Vikings, Bills, Jags, Cardinals, Falcons

and Cowboys Pleasers Cheez. I would lament that I didn't play these, but if I did, I promise you it would have been like a battleship game where I miss all of these. I have a way of missing him. Um, but pretty interesting for those who like to play the peers. Go ahead, Chris for the For the record, I did not I did not invent the pleaser or the term. But I did invent the pleaser card, okay, or the reverse teaser cards. So I did invent that. And uh,

you know, somebody kind of came out that I invented. No, I didn't invent the pleaser, but you know, my good friend who did invent it? And he's a very private guy and I've never mentioned his name. I don't think he wants his name to be out there. He helped me, you know, put together the card with the odds, like he's a brilliant guy. And I asked him, Hey, can you help me do this? Oh? Yeah, sure, I'd love to.

And like the next day he had like this twenty three page bound report that you would expect to get, you know, you know from a guy, you know from like a business, you know, like if somebody told you in business, I need to have it. He had it for me the next day, like bound and everything. I don't think I have it anymore, but I wish I did that. He was like so thorough on everything that he did, and he was just of all the people I've met in this business, I met some really really

smart one. He may be the smartest guy I've ever met. Might be. I know who you're talking about. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. You've never introduced me to him yet, but I know I know you speak of him very fondly. So you invented the pleaser card? Let me let me clear if I did. Please are card Okay, all right, let's do one more here, Chris. Alright, Steelers at the Jets. Oh, that's fun. Steelers lose last night, eight and six. They lose to the Bills, as we

talked about, seventeen to ten. Good football game. Jets. Uh, they're five and nine now. The Jets, of course, on Thursday got rolled by the Ravens. But again it was one of these games where the Jets should have been in it at halftime, but they just were being the Jets. But like that, outcome should have been somewhat different. But they lose forty twenty one. Steelers had an opportunity yesterday to leap frog the Bills for the top a f C wild card spot, but Buffalo snaps the three game

winning streaks. Steelers are currently in the number six position in the a f C, though um they hold the tiebreaker right now over the Titans because of one fewer conference loss, So right now Pittsburgh in the playoffs if we're to start today. But of course they can't mess up anymore. Duck Hodges yesterday, who threw a couple of ducks, Let's be honest, at the end of that game twenty three thirty eight for two oh two, one touchdown, four

picks with sack four times. Story of that game. Last night, Steelers had five turnovers. They were minus three against the Bills yesterday and the Jets, as we mentioned, uh, you know, doing Jets things. Donald was eighteen of thirty two for two eighteen on Thursday night. Crowder was his main target. I'll say Pittsburgh on the road minus three and a half. Yeah, I kind of like your number better. But it's three solid three. I really don't see anything else. I think

one team and a half with some juice on the favorite. Yeah. I like the Steelers here too. I really think that numbers a little light. Um. You know, say this about Duck Hodges. Uh, you know, listen, we knew he's he's a filling guy. You know. His QBR yesterday was, I believe the worst in the league ten point six. Um. You know, you in a game like that, you just cannot turn the ball over to a team like Buffalo. At Pittsburgh. I think they have a great, great defense.

They can't give the the you can't give them four interceptions. You just can't do that. Um. But I will say this about Hodges. At some point I gotta let them play. You know, they're just throwing the ball. You know, all bunch of short passes were five point three yards per attempt, and most of that is you threw a lot shorter than that, you know, uh, you got to throw the ball downfield. And when he had to throw it downfield,

he really couldn't do it. So you have to do it in times where you don't have to throw it down the field. But all that being said, I mean there are still the Jets, and if you're looking at the coaching mismatch, and certainly on the side of the of the Steelers and Donald, I like Donald a lot of the things he does that the kids still does not take care of the ball, and that's that is

not a good formula for beating the Steelers. And I think the Steelers probably get a few turnovers here, and uh so I'm gonna open three, but in fact trends higher, I'm gonna be one of the first to move it higher if I see it born up. Yeah, I like the Steelers. And if it's only three, give me the Steelers there. That defense is phenomenal. And I just will say this about Duck Hodges, You're right everything you said

about him, but it is. It's just such a testament to how few guys there are who can play quarterback at the NFL level. The fact that he's got a and I get it, you know, Roethlisberger got hurt. He wouldn't be the starter otherwise, but he is starting over Mason Rudolph. Uh, starting over guys like Dobbs who were sent out of town, like you know, Power five Conference, guys who had all this hype coming into the pros. And here's this guy from Sanford start for an NFL team.

It just shows you how few of these guys there are. They like him, and I think, justifiably so more than Mason Rudolph right now. Uh, Steelers minus three, give me the stadium there. I think Dave Damna Shack, who's with Pittsburgh. Boy by the way, and I have a little bit of a relationship. We've talked a couple of times. I imagine it. There's how many billion people on the earth and they can't find thirty two guys quarterbacks? Incredible and

that's true. You can't. All right, let's do one more. Vincent. I thought there's some bad games Cincinnati had Miami. I thought the Giants and the Redskins is gonna take the Kike, But I guess this one does Cincinnati's one in thirteen, Miami's three and eleven Miami. We mentioned, Uh, they played with the Giants for a half and then the eli steam rolled him in the second half. Um Cincinnati loses

to the Patriots. We also talked about that game. They played with him for the same amount about a half and then the Patriots ran away with it when the Patriots went in a man and man and man and then just picked off Dalton four times in the second half. Mixing was good yesterday carries a hundred thirty six yards, but that game was all about the turnovers minus five since he committed five turnovers. They were minus five in

turnovers in that game. I'll say Miami at home against the Bengals, I don't know, minus two and a half, not quite the three. It's one and one and a half. I think I kind of like your number a little better. I'm gonna open one and a half here, you know, Uh, Cincinnati, I mean Joe Burrow. I think the kid has a lot of potential. I think he's really has all everything you need to be at pop NFL quarterback Cincinnati gonna get if they do. I mean, I just feel sorry

they're gonna ruin this poor kid. I mean, they just they just It's true. Not a good situation there. Let's just say, uh, but I'm like, I like one and a half. I don't I see like a couple of one and a half but mostly one. But I'm gonna open one and a half. I think Miami certainly needs to be the favorite year and more than one. So I'm gonna open one and a half. They'll probably take it off me and God bless and they could have

it all right. Hopefully we've gotten through most of the bad games, but still like two so far in the first hour Pittsburgh and Buffalo leaping off the page for me. We'll come back, We'll continue, We'll squeeze another one in here first hour. It is guessing lines. It's Chrissie Andrews right here on a numbers game at VASA and the Sports Betting Network. Welcome back to a numbers game with Jill Alexander. Back on the numbers game. Christie Andrews is

here at Gil Alexander, Jeff Parlay. Let's squeeze in one more here before the top of the hour. Chris Okay, Panthers at the Colts. Another barn burner. Yeah, Colts haven't played again. They played a night there. What do you call it? Eight and a half point Dogs, nine and nine and a half What I said earlier, it's a nine consensus, but nine and a half here at the South point nine and a half point Dogs at New

Orleans tonight. Carolina. Uh, they lose yesterday to Seattle thirty to twenty four, but that game ended up being much closer. Seattle was way up in that game, but Carolina came storming back. It ends up being really right on the number at thirty to twenty four. UM Kyle Allen to seventy seven, but one touchdown, three picks. They got some quarterback decisions to make in Kakallaki, that's for sure. Christian McCaffrey nineteen carries eighty seven yards to touchdowns, also caught

eight balls for eighty eight. They're never gonna sit McCaffrey. They just gonna let him play out the season in risk injury. Got nothing to play for there in Carolina. They've allowed thirty one points a game half the Panthers during this six game losing streak. They're now minus fourteen and turnover differential during their current six game losing streak. I'll say, uh, you know, site unseen on the Colts.

I'll say Colts minus six. Yeah again, I kind of like your number a little better at six and a half. Looking pretty much uniformly six and a half, I think I like the six better, but I'm open six and a half in Carolina. Oh my god, they did just enough to land on the number. That was another disastrous result for us yesterday because, uh, you know, Seattle minus the six, we went to six and a half. We've got some pluts money back and forth. Not a good

number four, Not a good result at all. Christian mccather win, you have a hundred and seventy five yards total between the rushing and receiving. Don't kill this kid, for god jeezus, he's gonna lay him. It's amazing. They haven't set They're just gonna keep playing him every down, keep playing them, keep using them. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's three down right back. Um. By the way, one than I almost never write down the defensive status. Keep we had seventeen

tackles yesterday and geez I didn't see this. Yeah, yeah, quite a bit. And I'm six and a half on that. Okay, yeah, like my number better. But again, we haven't seen the Colts, so much could change if something bad happened to Seattle lad that game against Carolina, And this was one of these games you try to watch as much of every game as you can, but I had no shition on that game. So it was one of these games that

got lost in the shuffle for me. But Seattle lad that game thirty to ten with seven twenty eight left in the game yesterday and Carolina scores two garbage touchdowns put it right on the number thirty four. Seattle didn't have We'll get to Seattle, but they didn't have Ziggyanza. They didn't have Jadeveon Clowney, Chaquelle Griffin wasn't in there. Luke Wilson didn't play. Quandre Diggs left in the third quarter, Bobby Wagner in the fourth, both at ankle injuries. Bi

Carroll said that Digg's injury might be worse. Uh. Clownie didn't make the trip to Carolina after becoming ill on Friday. But basically they didn't have all those players still rolled the Panthers. So the Panthers fall into this. Uh, they're they're not terrible at football, but we've seen the Redskins run all over them and then we see them fall, you know, behind by twenty against the depleted Seattle team.

So just playing out the string. Of course after firing Ron Rivera will come back whole bunch more games to get to we'll talk about this ridiculous coin flip thing in Dallas. Uh set up the playoffs situation? Were you? It is a numbers game guessing lines right here for Week sixteen, a tradition unlike any of it right here

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of year. Thanks for joining us. Chris Andrews is here as well my mish book Chrisye whole bunch more games to get to here week sixteen. Um, what's next? One more morning game? Okay? The Ravens at the Browns or is in Pittsburgh. We'd like to say that the Purple Browns at the Browns, the Purple Browns and the Browns art model stealing them uh or I should say, uh yeah, Art O'Dell is stealing them from Cleveland taken to Baltimore

Baltimore twelve and two. They got extra rest here. They played the Thursday night gave against the Jets, and Cleveland yesterday loses to the Arizona Cardinals. They lose thirty eight to twenty four. What has happened to Baker Mayfield and the Cleveland Browns um six and eight? By the way, my Browns don't make the playoffs. Plus one fifty five ticket over there at Billy Hill, two weeks away from cashing. Cleveland, by the way, mathematically still alive. I don't know if

you know this. Mathematically, Uh, they gotta win their final two games versus the Ravens and the Bengals. They'd have to finish eight and eight, and then the Titans and the Steelers would have to lose their last two games to each finish eight and eight. By the way, Also, the Colts would have to lose one of their final three. But if all those things happen, Cleveland Browns are in the playoffs. So good luck Cleveland Browns. UM. By the way.

At the end of this game yesterday, Freddie Kitchens and Jarvis Landry heated verbal exchange on the sideline during the fourth quarter. I don't know if he saw it. Um, So that's good. Mayfield thirty forty three and defeat two forty seven, two touchdowns, one pick and a sack. Nick Chubb seventeen for one. Seven doesn't matter they lose. I'll say Baltimore minus eight on the road, because I think if this game was in Baltimore, they would be two

touchdown favorites. I'll say minus eight on the road. Yeah, you're a little light, Joe. It's ten, um ten to see one. I see one nine and a half. I see m eleven and a half with a bunch of juice on the dog. I mad tens. Okay, I beat that either. Um. You know, uh, listen to Paul Fine Bob this week last week and he said Freddie Kittens. He says, you know, you know, Fine bamb is famous

for covering Alabama football. He's followed Freddie Kittens from a time was a high school through college, even as a pro. He says Freddie Kitchens might be the worst NFL hire of all times as a head coach. So yeah, I mean that's a bold statement for a guy that's known him since he was a teenager essentially. But there's nothing I'm seeing to prove Fine Bomb wrong. I could tell you that and talk about a coaching mismatch, and even at a quarterback mismatch. I hate to say because Baker

Mayfield he's just really regrets what happened well coaching. Yo, We've talked about it in this show. I mean there's a lot of things going through success of the team and particularly a quarterback, and everything that could go wrong with Baker I think has gone wrong. So I wouldn't sell him out too quickly if he gets the proper coaching and some better structure around him. But Baltimore ten, I think that's a that's an okay number, and uh, you know, we'll see. I mean, you know, double bidgets

on a row. That's that's hard to cover. It just is in the NFL. But I think that that's a decent betting number. Sir, Yeah, I don't. You know, I don't have a huge issue with it. You know how I was like super excited to bet Buffalo and Pittsburgh in the two games earlier this morning. And you would think here, based on the fact that I guess eight, that I would be and you said it was ted, I'd be rushing about the Browns. Yeah, I'm not rushing about the Browns like not. It's not the same reaction

for me. I'll let that one slide. I think Ted is probably a better number than mine. Um. Yeah, but you know, the Browns publicly saying that Freddie Kitchens will be back next year, that's what they're publicly saying right now. They support him, and uh oh b j Odell Beckham sort of not so quietly telling people he wants out.

So there's that enjoy Cleveland. I told you, uh, you know, I know a guy who knows a guy and told me that Giants management we're so happy to get rid of o b J. And he listens to our show and he texts me, he goes, I love when you say that. I think he has a pretty good source, you know. But you know, I don't know. That's just a bad situation there. And if they keep Freddie Kitchens and it ain't gonna get better anytime soon. Yeah again again.

Browns win their final two games. Titans and Steelers lose their final too. Colts lose one of their last three. If they're in still let me know when you catch that teck. Uh. I don't think you have to rip that thing up. I got let me tell you, I got Browns not to make the playoffs plus one five in the off season. Remember, William Hill put out a couple of props before they did even see the win tools And as you know better than anybody, the fever,

the Brown's fever this past off season. Man with futures play, So yeah, not so much. All right, let's do another. I'm gonna go back to the top of the rotation because we are now in the afternoon games. All right, but these these next two games at the top of the rotation, but they're both one oh five games two peaches Detroit at Denver. Oh geez Detroit three ten and one.

Um Matt Patricia speaking of coaches. Yeah, seven losses in a row now and ten of eleven for the Lions, who lost, as we mentioned, to Tampa excuse me to uh who the Lions lose to yesterday? Yeah, to Tampa Bay, that's right, thirty eight to seventeen a game. They fell way behind, and they came back and then Tampa Bay rolled him. Lions didn't have a first down on offense in this game without the benefit of a penalty until midway through the second quarter. David bow sixty no no touchdowns,

two picks, two times, he was sacked. Amondola was his big tart yesterday eight for one oh two. Denver, by the way, officially eliminated for those of you who are still harboring hopes for the Denver Broncos. Uh, Denver loses to Kansas City and the snow in the snow Globe Yesterday twenty three to three. Drew Lack came back to Earth, came back down to Earth eighteen forty two oh eight,

no touchdowns, one pick, He was sacked twice. Travis Kelsey had more yards receiving at the start of the fourth quarter than the Broncos had total offensive yards one thirty nine at that point in the game. Broncos didn't force a punt until there was about six minutes left in the third quarters. They really got roled in that game. But it's the three ten and one Lions and the five and nine Broncos. Broncos certainly playing out the string. Uh, it seems with some pride. I will say the Broncos

minus six and a half, is that too low? Or you're right on my first glimpse, my first glimpse of this game, I thought it was a little high. And then the more it looked into the teez and I mean, then I do think Denver's playing hard. And you know that there's some things I like about Denver, really very evident yesterday. But some things all I got Denver any thing I always respect, you know, the right players, let's say,

and I had some sharp guys who've been on Denver yesterday. Um, and I had everybody in the world sharps and public bet against Detroit. I mean they were betting on Tampa, okay, but they were betting against Detroit. I really think that was much more of the story, and I have to take that into consideration. So the more I looked at it, I thought, I gotta be six and a half, maybe even seven. This Detroit team just looks just awful. And I think Denver just this still a tough home team.

You've got to go up there, and especially late in the season, you might get some weather. Uh yeah, so I might open six and a half. But like I said, my first impression was it's too high. But the more I looked at it, I don't think it is. And if anything, I think maybe this game might creep up to seven. Remember Detroit started this season two oh one. Now they're now they're three, ten and one. Felika, Chris Felika, the Bear who we all know and love, A friend

of show, friend of network. He made a bet before the season at fifteen to one. I want to say it was at Caesar's where it was the Lions will have the worst record of the National Football League and after three games we're like, okay, that's done. They're mathematically alive still for that, but the Bengals are not cooperating. Yeah. By the way, I was just looking through my notes. Uh, Andy Dalton, you know, multi year veteran had a worst QBR than the duck logic doc was not the worst.

Andy Dalton. Oh you know what, Chris, I'm glad you brought up QBR because for those who have listened to guessing lines here, particularly this year, you have had a fascination with total QBR that you haven't had in previous years. Would you agree with that? Paul Paul Carr, who was here in studio. Paul car who does our Premier League soccer, He was in studio with us this past Thursday. He

when he was at ESPN Stats Information. When he was in ESPN uh stats department, he was one of the people that came up with total qb R. So he was he said, he listens to guessing lines every week and the next time he's on, he's going to go through how you know, what really influences what the total

QBR number is. But even he conceded, and we couldn't remember who the one was last week that you and I were talking about, but some quarterback had like an eighteen totalq b R. And even that when he said, huh, yeah, I don't know. I don't know how about one makes sense, but it would be interesting to see because he says, the way the sausage is made, they've really accounted for as much as they can, so like garbage time stuff

doesn't matter. They really try to get to, you know, the stats that matter when the game is still in the balance. So be interested to talk to him. I am fascinated with it, mostly because I don't understand that, you know, and it's just one more way to look at the numbers. And uh, it was on with Ed saying this week this password yeah, uh yeah, we'll talk about that afterwards. But really a brilliant, brilliant guy. And this is you know, we talked about it and has

a doctor and I believe in mathematics. But anyway, you really have a small number of games that you're looking at that you know, hard to say statistically significant, so you have to break it down and finally you can to make things statistically significant so that maybe so as many things that you can look at that does uh, you know, evaluate teams and players you have to look at. And that's just one more that I do like to look at. Yeah, Stanford PhD for young ed thing. By

the way, is that all? It's all? Yea, I have a couple of those. I would tell you what the PhDs in, but like it was like I don't want to bore you, like I don't understand half the words that are h. All right, let's do one more here before the break. Probably way call me after the show. I want to talk to you about it. All good, I mean, he's a good guy and brilliant. Yeah. Uh, Raiders at the Chargers, Raiders at the Chargers. Well, as I mentioned just selfishly, I need the Raiders to lose out.

That would help me tremendously in terms of season long stuff. We mentioned the whole thing with the Derek Carr slide yesterday. Yes, the Raiders absolutely got screwed on that play. Instead of the victory being sealed, I mean, keep it for those who missed it. When Derek Carr slides with two oh five left in the game to get a first down and the Jaguars only having one time out left, Derek Carr was putting up the oh. He was making the sign of you know over Oakland with his hands like

this game was over. Um. And yes they did get screwed, but yes they also compounded their own problem by stopping the clock on an incomplete pass thereafter Car yesterday thirty six for two sixty seven, one touchdown. Note picks. He was sacked four times with the Jaguars. Waller once again his favorite target, eight for one, two, three, three hundred and twenty seven games played at the Oakland, Alameda County Coliseum. When all is Sadden done, they played the Autumn Wind.

The old John Facenda voice over the Autumn Wind is a Raider in the loudspeaker after the game. But then they all ended up booing Derek Carr. Everybody in the black hole booing Derek car because once again, what a

fitting way to go out for the black Hole. At halftime, they were dominating the Jaguars to thirty seven to seventy five, advantage and yards seventeen to two and first downs at halftime, but only led sixteen to three because you know, all three of the red zone possessions ended with field goals. Third quarters this year, the Raiders have been outscored one oh one to twenty third quarters this year coming out of halftime. What's the opposite of making adjustments? One oh

one to twenty. Outscored in the third quarter, by the way, is three to nothing yesterday. And then there's the Chargers. My goodness, I need the Charges to show up next week. It's not fun to have to have that happen. Uh. The Chargers have dropped four of their last five. Now they lose to the Vikings yesterday, and they lose to the Vikings by the score of thirty nine to ten. Vikings were one point closing favorites thirty nine to ten. For those who show up and see that result, they're like,

oh my god, the Vikings destroyed them. Yeah they did. But right before halftime, the Vikings led twelve to ten, and the Chargers had a late drive. They were in field goal range, down two points. End of the first half, they are the twenty six yard line of the Vikings with twenty three seconds remaining second and two Rivers fumbles when he was sacked by Daniel Hunter. Austin Ekeler recovers

it at the thirty eight. Then he tries to make a play and he fumbles, and if a Eddie uh enigmo he scoops up the loose ball fifty six yards of the house, and all of a sudden, it's Minnesota nineteen to ten, and that game was forever change. The Chargers seven turnovers in all, seven, the most since for that franchise there were minus six in the turnover difference

department um. By the way, that touchdown at the end of the set at the end of the first half, part of thirty straight Vikings points after the Chargers had to ten to nine lead midway through the second quarter. The Chargers ensure themselves their first losing record in three seasons under the Great Anthony Lynn. But it's Oakland at the Chargers. They'll probably be more Oakland fans than Chargers fans.

Last game for the Chargers at this interim stadium if you will, before they move into their Shangri La next year. I'll say the Charges, I just put it in the uh the no man's land. Between three and seven, I'll say Chargers minus five and a half. Wow, you're right on, Gilly. Yes. Well, look,

I've already missed on several problems. You have it, I don't know, but this one I really had in my head yesterday after the Charge after the Oakland loss, and by the way, I had Oakland and like every come in two contests by myself and another contest with a bunch of partners, we had Oakland in everything and everything. I loved Oakland yesterday. So coming out of that game, I just thought, boy, this this is just gonna be such a huge emotional letdown from what happened yesterday. I

wanted to bet against Oakland this week. Uh not because of the their play, but you know the result, and then what's gonna happen now, I look, they're playing the Chargers. Oh God, I mean, but it's gonna happen. Chargers. You just never know what you're gonna get from week to week. What you can say about most of the league, but but the Chargers especially. Um, I didn't know what to make this. I guess five and a half's okay. I have no idea, but you know, I think Oakland is

gonna be on a huge emotional letdown. But it is the Chargers, and there'll be more Raider fans than Chargers in that stadium. And I mean, oh my, it is the Chargers. I don't really want to bet on Oakland, but I sure as heck don't want to bet on the Chargers either. This is gonna be a tough one, but I guess we'll open five and a half and see where it takes us. But man, that's uh. I think we're ruined a good spot for us, guilty by Oakland going to Sandy to Los Angeles here you no,

I agree. I agree with that coming. By the way, a few weeks ago, someone on Twitter is like, oh, me and my buddies are convinced you gotta be peeking at these And I go, well, thank you, because I had the wrong team favored four times, but thank you for all the for all the other ones. It's so but it's like it's the equivalent of like when when a game lands on the number of people like, how

do they know? How do they know? But they don't think about the other ten games that they botched by the same logic, I'm with you, and they give you a compliment. Oh, you guys are so and they killed on the number. By the way, that's right exercise. I agree. I agree with everything you said about this game. Uh. And I made the comparison because they're tied forever in history between Rivers and and Eli Manning. Who who of

those two will go to the Hall of Fame? If not both will either who deserves it more than the other? How about Derek Carr and Philip Rivers in this game? Let me make a Philip Rivers Derek car comparison. Have either of these two guys improved over the last five years? Now? I know with Philip Rivers you're like, well, it's the end of his career, But honestly, do you get the

sense that he does anything right anymore? When was the last deep ball you've seen Philip Rivers complete that wasn't like a throw it up in the air and pray that Mike Williams out jumps everybody for right, like I mean, just and by the way, Derek Carr needs a change of scenery because I think he's gotten two warped into this whole Raiders. Oh, we're such a great franchise mentality. You all haven't one crap ever in like a generation.

So just stop it. Derek Carr needs to go play for another team and get different coaching and just get a different mindset where he can mature, because I don't see any improvement with him. I'd have to agree with all that. You know, first of all, Philip Rivers, he it's hard to shot putt at seven New York's on the field, That's true. It's gotta go to the chin shot putting. I don't know what you do. But Derek Carr, I see a lot of good things out of them guys.

Sometimes you know that it's uh that lack of consistency from you know, play to play game the game. But I think under the right circumstances, he could be a good quarterback. I really do. But change the scenery needed. We'll see if he's their quarterback when they moved to Vegas. We'll see what do a couple more of the afternoon games. We've got some primetime games to get to. Two week six, Dan in the National Football League Playoffs scenarios of bounty.

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everybody when he says that. As for Duck Hodges, it has been said on your air waves. Do you know how good you have to be to suck at that level? So true? Not that he sucks people, Please give the kid a break with what he's faced. He's performed well, absolutely no, no question about that. We agree. Um. Chris Andrews, the afore mentioned Chris Andrews is here MYSH book Christie Andrews, the south Point Hotel casino sports book director who also has a book out. I don't know if you guys

know about this. It's called Then One Day. Forty years of bookmaking is what Chris goes through in this book. Stories abound, funny and sightful, poignant, Uh really just to make you cry. Some of them are so funny. Chris available where all books are sold, or maybe everywhere except for the shop here at the south Point. Right. Yeah, I'm gonna say going to Amazon's your best bet. And uh, I found about there's some politics on all this stuff like I wanted to get my book at the airport.

I think it would be a great places all the books, but there's some politics there and it's going to happen for at least a little while. What are the politics at the airport bookshop? What's that about? I'll tell you later. I don't want to mention on the Okay, how that boy? This phone call we're gonna have is gonna be fascinating after this. Yeah, you're right, Ed Fang and book politics, look forward to sang Well. I can't say enough good things by that thing. That's a smart, smart guy and

a good guy. You know, a lot of brilliant guy. We know a lot of brilliant guy, you know, but a lot of them tend to talk down me a little bit. Not and as smart as if there's anybody deserves to talk to but he just doesn't. He's not that kind of guy. Absolutely. Um, all right, we got two more games here in the afternoon. What's next? This is a good one. Cowboys at the Eagles. Cowboys at the Eagles. I'm desperately trying to look up what Ed's PhD wasn't just like, can wow you with it? U?

Cowboys are. Cowboys are seven and seven. They beat the Rams. They roll the Rams yesterday by the final score of forty four to twenty one. They did so as one point closing dogs as a matter of fact, So the Cowboys are seven and seven and the Eagles, as we mentioned, not only beat the Redskins but miraculously cover against the Redskins. Now they're seven and seven. So here's the deal these are. This is obviously v game for the NFC East. But let me clarify. If the Cowboys win this game, they

win the division. Done zo. If the Eagles win, they still have to win in week seventeen. Okay, So Cowboys yesterday they went over the Rams. That was their first win this season over a team that is currently possessing a winning record. So congratulations Dallas Cowboys. But they came out like gangbusters yesterday. They scored touchdowns on four of

their first drives against the Rams. Dak two twelve two touchdowns, Noe Picks wasn't sacked, Pollard twelve for one thirty one on the ground, and the touchdown Zee seventeen two touchdowns, four hundred and seventy five total yards of all offense for the Cowboys including scoring drives of ninety and nineties seven yards, two hundred and sixty three rushing yards, and Kai for Bath made all three of his vehic goals from fifty forty two and forty two and all five

of his extra points in his Dallas debut. Yeah, I know he kicked it out of bounds on the opening kickoff, but besides that, he didn't miss a field goal or an extra points. They were pumped um. But the weird thing about this game against the Rams, which we alluded to and we talked about how the Derek Carr slide somehow was not reviewable in Oakland, and I always say, you know, they don't review a play clock going to zero, which drives me crazy, literally the easiest thing to review.

Apparently they don't review slides in bounds or out of bounds that they're called one way. But apparently a coin flip is from New York. So beginning of this game, this was such a weird thing. Dak Prescott says, we want to kick, and Walt Anderson, the referee, keeps coming back to him sort of I don't want to say baiting him, but almost like trying to convey to dock without saying I need a word from you. The word

is defer, but I can't say that out loud. Let's see if you say you want to defer, and Dax says defer on the third pass. But I don't know if Walt Anderson didn't hear it, if he didn't care after the first couple of times. But anyway, we we for an entire half of football. We were under the impression that not only did the Cowboys kick off in the first half, but that they were gonna have to kick off again in the second half. And it's it's

important because one for strategy of the team's right. When you're playing at the end of the first half, you want to know if you're getting the ball back in the second half. There's different ways you'd play the end of a half. Throughout the whole halftime, the Rams thought they were getting the ball. And by the way, as betters, for those of us who were contemplating second half bets, we were under the impression that the Rams were getting

the ball first. That's actually a big deal with halftime wagers. In the end, New York Al river Ran and company get involved and they say we got the tape and Dak Prescott actually said the word defer, So the Cowboys are going to get the ball in the second half. And my whole thing with all that Chrissy is, come on, what are we doing here? Like, can we have some common sense? There's never been a game in our entire lives. I might be wrong, but certainly none, none that I

can remember where a team got the ball twice. Obviously, if a team's kicking off, they want the ball in the second half. And we when did when did it happen that we have to use the word defer? Literally? I didn't know that. Yesterday was the first time I ever heard that before. I don't know, but uh, you know, Ben Folks, our friend from ESPN Quota, you know, put some out that's never as far as he knew, that

never happened in the NFL. Ah ha. I remember one time there Haines back in the old afl oh jeez, nineteen sixty two. They were the Dallas Texans before they became the Kansas City Chiefs. They went into overtimes. God I forget who they were playing, but you know, there was like a vicious wind blowing, and Abner Haynes went out to call all the you know, the coin flip for overtime, and he said, well, we'll kick to the clock.

He wanted to defend like the one direction rather than received the ball because there was a howling win and the ref said, no, you said kick, it's your choice, and you said kick. The other team got the ball and got to go to the direction they wanted to go, and uh, yeah, well that's uh, you know, and I can't believe I actually remember that, but I read stories about that, and uh and what do you know, the Dallas Texans wound up winning that game anyway to the

playoff game in the old a FL. Maybe I'll tweet out that story because I have it. I sent it to Ben fouls. But there's a story about that. How really the ref kind of screwed that one up to by the way the way he phrased the question and everything else. But kind of interesting, I thought, So maybe you know, I don't really remember the game that well, just a little bit the good knowledge job. Well, like the Dallas Texans, that didn't end up mattering in this

game either. The Dallas Cowboys rolled from twenty one. Uh. And then there's the Eagles, who we mentioned not only beat the Redskins, but cover uh of the money at Burgata was on the Eagles, so they were pumped. They scored four touchdowns did the Eagles in the final twenty one minutes of that game yesterday versus the Skins. Carson wentz Now in their last three games for the Eagles eight touchdowns in one pick um, So Carson wentz perhaps

getting it together. So now you you were talking about how that Saturday game between the Texans and the U and the Bucks was a tough line to make, and I agree with you that was This was interesting for me to think about because here it is. For all the marbles I get at the Eagles still have to win in Week seventeen if they win, but for all intents and purposes, uh, this will go a long way towards the siding the NFC East. And if the Cowboys win, it will decide the NFC East. So what's the line

at Philly? To me? The Cowboys just based on sheer talent because the Eagles are still riddled with injuries. The Cowboys on paper just a better football team period. So not only should the Eagles not be a de facto three point favorite, I don't even think it's a pick them. I make the Dallas Cowboys a three point favorite on the road, Well it's two and a half. Give me the Cowboys. You like the Cowboy I like I like the other side. Um, you know again, it's one of those.

And I've mentioned this. I'm not a big system guy. Oh, I think most of those trends and systems are a lot of crap, you know. But uh, the one that I follow is when you go from a home dog to a road favorite. Now, the Cowboys weren't much of a home dog, but they were definitely the home dog the Rams, and now you're going to a road favorite. And you know, I know, a few weeks ago you did a Kalpa saying that you know you had had went among the lead of a protential elite corprete. I'm sorry.

I think he's one of those. Maybe I think you've got to retract that. And I think the kid is really good. I mean, you talked about the injuries. I don't know if there's been a team. I'll tell you what. I think the Steelers are closed, but have had as many skill position players as hurt as the Eagles, And I think that's really compromised Carson Wentz, but he's really

kind of come on the last couple of weeks. Now He's has, you know, a million times more talent than than Doc Hodges, but you know that the same thing. He doesn't have any players around them, But you know it, the Eagles can they finally get healthy. I'm just looking at the injury report. They have a couple of guys that are questionable, like Alilare is questionable. Um, you know, Lane Johnson might be back versus Dallas. It looks like Alexeon Jeffrey's help. So they still have a lot of

injury problems. But that being said, I really thought this game should be a pick them. I'll open two and a half because I see that I see two when half one place has a two and a half of the little Juice on the dog. Most of this June two and half with Juice on the favorite. So I'm gonna open two and a half. I think they'll probably bet me Dallas in this spot. But I'm gonna tell you I kind of like Philly. You know, first of all, rabid proud, it doesn't always play into it coaching mismatch.

I think favors Philly I just I really think Philly goes in there and wins this game. I really do. Uh. Anyways, if you look at the talent level all of those things you say, I cannot dispute that Dallas absolutely should be much much better than Philadelphia at this point with all the injuries, etcetera, etcetera. But I you know, I think Philly wins this game. I'm putting my slash more mixed to Philly. I like them in this spot, alight. I think we're alo there, and you're right. I mean, look,

based on talent, to me, it's all Cowboys. But lord knows it's Jason Garrett and that Cowboys coaching staff. So what could go wrong? Talk about teams that are untrustworthy from week to week? Uh? For the NFC East, crown um almost. So you know, if Cowboys win, Yes, if the Phillies excuse me of Philly wins, they still gotta win a week seventeen to capture the NFC East. Let's do one more here. Last afternoon game Arizona at Seattle, Arizona snapping their losing streak at six. They beat the Browns.

We talked about that. Kyler Murray ninety five for two nineteen. I still say he should be the offensive rookie of the year. Eight carries for fifty six drake Kenyan Drake, four touchdowns. He just basically fell in the end zone four times. They were all short, a little running, a little rushing touchdown, twenty carries a hundred thirty seven yards.

By the way, he had lost nine straight as a member of the Dolphins, and then he lost five more after coming to the Cardinals, so he had lost personally fourteen straight football games until yesterday. But the Cardinals had four forty five total yards. They had two ninety nine in the first half, including a hundred forty five on the ground. So good for the Cardinals there four nine

and one Seattle's eleven and three. They clinched a play off berth, by the way, their seventh playoff berth in eight seven eight seasons, seventh time in eight seasons for the Seahawks. They will clinch the NFC West with wins in their final two games. Um, but of course that last games against the Niners, so easier said than done. It's their tenth win this season. Yesterday was against the Panthers by eight points or fewer, so ten of their

eleven wins have been one score victories. Russell Wilson was twenty of twenty six for two eight six, two touchdowns, no picks. He's awesome were it not for Lamar Jackson, He's your m v P. Chris Carson twenty four carries a hundred thirty three yards two touchdowns. Lockett was Wilson's big target eight for one twenty touchdown. But as I said, Seattle led thirty to ten with seven twenty eight left

two garbage touchdowns by the Panthers. As I mentioned, Ziggy Answage, Davian Clowney killed Griffin, Luke Wilson, Quandrie Diggs left in the third quarter. Uh Bobby Wagner left in the fourth with an ankle injury. None of those guys, Uh Diggs and Wagner partial. But all those guys I mentioned before and none of them were there. So the the Seahawks were able to beat the Panthers with a depleted cast. If you will, Seattle's at home against Arizona, it's gonna

be more than a touchdown. I'll say, Seattle, mind a seven and a half. You know, I kind of like your number. Better deal, it's nine and a half. Idn't leave some ten with juice on the dog. Um, I'm you know, I think I think Arizona is a very live dog in this spot covered numbers, Seattle probably gets the dough as far as getting to win, but I think Arizona gets the dough for the point spread. I think not and a half just too high here. In ft of fact that I put a mark next to Arizona,

I kind of like them plus the point. I am an open nine and a half though uh not in half a not the nine the key number, but it is for teaser betters, and I think that a lot of people will have Seattle and teasers. I don't blame them, but if you want to go get under three, you're gonna get three year under. I'm gonna make you pay for it. So that's what I'm anna open nine and a half. Otherwise I would probably open nine because I do kind of like the dog a little bit in

this spot. I'm looking ahead a little bit to teasers. Yeah, I'm I'm with you there, Caroline. You give you give Arizona too many points to work with. Kyler Murray is not fun to bet against with all that point, certainly with all those points to work with for sure, So I'm with you Arizona and nothing there. Nine and a half is where Chris is opening that I had seven

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can I escape? We'll do that next time. Chrissie, let's do primetime. What's Sunday Night? That would be worth recording? Poor dad? I she only new? All right? What's pretty good? One? Kansas City at Chicago. Kansas City, of course, already a f C West champs, still on the outside looking in as far as buys though um in the a f C not a number one or two seed. Currently, they need to win out and the Patriots to drop one of their final two games to move ahead of them

in the playoff pecking order. Mahomes yesterday, again in the snow, the Chiefs look like they were just having a ball against the Broncos thirty four yesterday, two touchdowns, one pick, uh three time sack three forty yards passing Kelsey eleven for one forty two Tyreeke five for sixty seven, two touchdowns total yard. Chiefs have held four straight opponents to twenty points or fewer, and two of their past three

to ten points are fewer. Snow probably helped, but still Chief's defense not what it's made out to be, perhaps by conventional wisdom. Chicago, for those of you who were still harboring hopes that the Bears would make the playoffs. I'm sorry they were eliminated from playoff contention yesterday with their loss to the Packers. But we talk about all these games like having Plinko endings. They lose to the Packers thirteen, they get into this, uh, into the lateral

phase of the game. They were the Packers were leading by eight points with just one second remaining. Tremont Williams falls on Jasper horsteds fumble of the two yard line to end Green Bay's thirteen victory. But literally, the Bears were one lateral away to Alan Robinson from taking that to the house, and then they would have had a two point conversion to try to tie it. They that lateral was there for them, they just didn't do it in time, and so the Packers end up winning it.

Matt Lafleur uh Green Bay coach quote. I think I blacked out there for a second when watching that. Uh Mr Bisky fifty three for three thirty four yards of offense and defeat. The Bears were minus three in turnovers. That's all you need to know. Minus three three turnovers for the Bears, none for the Packers, Khalil Mack no sacks, one tackle. Where has he gone three points on their first a drive yesterday? For the Bears. Uh, it's at Chicago, you said, I'll say Kansas City minus four and a half.

It's five. Pretty solid. I see one five and a half. I see one four and a half. Other than that, it's a blanket five. I'm gonna open five. Um, kind of like the dog a little bit here, uh after you know, pull James Salinas kind of James likes to read all weeks and see, you know, how practice goes and that sort of thing. I think that's going to be important for a game like this. Um. You know, I hate to play amateur psychologists, although James seems to

do it pretty well. Pretty well, Yeah, I'll see well, but I think I think that's gonna be important, trying to follow what's going on in the in these two franchises and how they practice and everything this week. But I kind of favored the dog. I'm not gonna put an next next to them right now, you know. Anyway, I am an open five. I think that's okay, but I would sort of be looking about the dog in this spot and always check the weather this time of year.

They were not expecting that kind of snow in Kansas City, but it came sooner than they expected Monday night. Okay, this is a good one. Green Bay at Minnesota, Green Bay eleven and three. What a gaudy record for the Packers. Anyone scared of them in the postseason? Anybody? Green Bill eleven and three, Minnesota now ten and four. Most wins ever for Kirk Cousins in any year, eclipses the nine that he had with the Skins. Green Bay clinches a

playoff berth with that win against the Bears. Matt Lafleur first coach ever to reach the playoffs in his first season with the Packers. Not Lombardi, not Forest Greg not Bart Star, Matt Lafleur, not Mike McCarthy. Rogers sixteen of thirty three, two oh three, one touchdown note picks. They were plus three in turnovers, as I mentioned against the Bears Minnesota. With that win over the Chargers, they've won

four of their last five. They'll clinch a playoff berth with a win in either of their last two games, so they've got a two game lead over the Rams for the final Wild card position, so they they get a playoff birth. With a win in either of their last two games, they can still win the NFC North.

So this game obviously with huge implications for that. But the Vikings, who are one game behind the Packers in the NFC North, they can win the division with two wins and then a green Bay loss to Detroit in week seventeen. That's how the Vikings could still win the division um ten plus wins for the third time in six seasons under Mike Zimmer Cousins nineteen two or seven. Yesterday,

one touchdown, one pick. Dalvin Cook did leave the game in the third quarter with the shoulder injury, and as we mentioned, the Chargers uh just given the ball left and right to the Vikings. Yesterday the Vikings were plus six turnovers as the charge is forked it over seven times. I'll say Minnesota buy a little. I'll say a tick more than a field. I'll say Minnesota by three and a half. Monday night, it's four. I even see a

four and a half. You know, Gil, I'm gonna open the four because I don't want to mess with this too much. But Dalton Cook is questionable. Yeah, you know, I mean a pretty key guy obviously, But I think you were right when you said nobody's really afraid of Green Bay. And I think we have to come to the acceptance that Rogers is really just an average quarterback at this point. I mean, just look at all his numbers, including estername. I mean, he's just not all that good anymore.

I'm trying to look again, qb R the lesson average passer rating seventy eight point two yards per attempt, which I always think there's a big one six point two yards per ten. That's not very good, you know, but you have to give him credit. They have won a lot of football games. Um, I think this is a little high. I kind of like your number better, I am than open four because here a four and a half out there. Um, but I kind of like the dog in this spot, especially if there's no Dalvin Cook.

I think it's just gonna be a close, close game, and four would be a take for me. I can tell you that right now. I've got too many games. I kind of like the Green Days one never a good side, right Rogers. Yeah, Rogers looks joyless, maybe even Ordinery. Just there's nothing about him that looks like he's having foot out there, even though they're eleven and three packers right now at top the NFC North. We'll come back. We'll recap what we like more than most, wrapping up

guessing lines for week sixteen. Right here on the numbers game at Visa the Sports Betting Network. Welcome back to a numbers game with Jill Alexander Parlays recounting is gambling weekend to us. He called it a quote to gambling travesty unquote. Come on, Parlay, stop betting the President's Cup. For God's sakes, Presidents, what else did you bet? I had the right side, played poker to your probably the poker.

What are you? What are you gonna do? I I flopped three threes and got beat by a pocket ace, getting an ass on the river? What are you gonna do? Mr? And Mrs Parlay. I'll take care of it. I promise I'll take care of it. You have my word, all right, So here's let's go around. Let's go around the horn hair here where recap? I like Buffalo on Saturday. I think they're getting way too many points against the Patriots. Give me the Bills. I like Pittsburgh. Uh, it's only

three against the Jets. Give me the Steelers. I like the Cowboys if it's only two and a half at Philly, and I kind of lean Arizona. I'm with Christy on Seattle. Chrissy, what do you like? Too many games? I like Buffalo? Yeah, I like your Washington redskin. I know, I like my Pittsburgh Steelers. You and I are gonna butt heads. I like the Eagles. I like Arizona. I like Green Day. So we're together on Buffalo, Pittsburgh and Arizona and bow

on Dallas and Philly. Interesting Parley. The only one that stands out is Green Bay. If Cook can't go that, that seems too steep to me. Yeah, I had three and a half. Would it end up being four? Yeah? Yeah, that's yeah. Dalvin Cook didn't look good when he when he was on the sidelines yesterday, although he was you know, his face looked okay, looked like he was smiling a little bit. The injury certainly didn't look good. So we'll see,

obviously a game with implications on both sides. Chris, I'll make that phone call to you so we can talk about ed Fang and we can talk about book politics. How about that? Okay, alright, well, Chris Chris Andrews, who you can follow on Twitter, by the way, and Andrew's Sports always making a nice pithy comments. Thank you, Chrissy, always appreciate it. Man, Oh my pleasure, my pleasure, the man. So happy to have him here each and every Monday.

We'll do it again week seventeen. By the way, even though the lines could be for Cota, We'll still do it next week right here on the numbers game at Visa. Thank you for listening. Good luck with Monday night football tonight between the Colts and let's say right here from decent Sports, Betty Wet come h