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Joe Biden a lot, but you're running for governor. The only worn out old donkey I'm looking to put out the pastor is Charlie Criss. Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. The Infrastructure Law is about to turn a year old, but is it too young to
help Democrats in the mid terms. Welcome to the fastest hour in politics, two weeks to election day, and we're joined by the man in charge of implementing that infrastructure law, Mitch Landrew white House senior advisor, former Mayor of New Orleans, will join us in a moment to talk about the punch list, the work that's already been done in the impact it may have in November later, the man who could face Trump in twenty four squares off and a
televised debate with his Democratic challenger will bring it to Florida, where Governor Rhonda Santis and Congressman Charlie Chris went at it last night. Bloomberg's Emily Wilkins joined us later with more that we'll have analysis from our signature panel Bloomberg Politics contributors Rick Davis and Jeannie Schanzano. The Infrastructure Bill passed almost a year ago now, right November five. I have on my notes here. It was historic because so
many presidents had tried and failed. But now a year later, it is unclear to a lot of people exactly what work has been done, what work has yet to be done, what projects are about to begin, and what it means for the elections two weeks from today. The White House's infrastructure coordinator, Mitch Landrew, was asked about the latter with regard to the elections the midterms on President Biden's trip last week to Pittsburgh. They're all on Air Force one.
This is, of course, you know where the bridge collapse took place a europe for Here's Mitch Landrew talking to reporters on Air Force One. I can't speak to the to the politics and the immediacy of it, but I will say this, when people are thankful for good policy and good investments that impact their lives, they have a tendency to want to keep doing that. And that's from a man who has been traveling the country now to help doll out the money and promote the projects. And
I want you to listen to him in action. This is again the former mayor of New Orleans in this case, and I've seen him in action before. I don't think he's any happier than when he's actually out talking to people. He was in a neighborhood in Milwaukee last July to highlight more than eight hundred million dollars from the infrastructure law in place to replace lead pipes. Listen to Mitch
Landrew walking into the neighborhood. What you're looking at is a representative of the president of the United States standing in the middle of this street, in this neighborhood. And you have federal officials here, you have state officials here, you have city officials here, you have folks that are
working for the entity that handles the water here. You have the neighborhoods here, you have the residents here, and then you have the men and women whose lives they're changing and whose lives are being changed by the work that's being done. This is the message that Mitch Landrew has been laying out there, and he's having a very different conversation with people about things in their own backyards.
Then a lot of us are having on national political shows, and he's with us right now from the White House. Mr Mayor, it's great to have you back on Bloomberg Sound On. When you hear talk about the polls and the balance of power in Washington and where are the results from this administration? Do you feel like you're living on another planet? First of all, Joe, it's great to be with you, and thanks for those clips. That was a great trip to Millwall. Remember that really hard felt.
Oh I remember it well. But I actually remember standing outside of the house and talking to the mama and talking about her two kids and how they don't have to drink water out of lead pipes and get potential brain damage. That's the thing to get you up in the morning and keeps your feet moving really really quickly. So listen, there's a midterm coming up. I mean, we're in the politics of electing people that do good things for America, which is why I think the president is
going to do very well. You mentioned at the outset that many, many, many presidents have talked about rebuilding America, but this president actually put points on the board one point two trillion dollars. We have five thousand projects coming out of the ground. As you have said, I've criss crossed America and gone to places that people you know, don't really think about Lounge Cannon County, Alabama, or Coachville, Pennsylvania, or Saginaw, Michigan, where actually this this work is hitting
the ground and impacting people's immediately in real ways. I mean, if you build a water tower in a small city that helps keep the pressure where it needs to be so that the water can stay fresh, people feel that in a real way. If you rebuild the train station in the middle of a town that has gotten left behind,
all of a sudden generation of wealth gets built. If you go into Syracuse and you take down a highway that's divided communities forever, communities come back together and they see this president actually not just talking to talk, but walking the walk Well, with that said, you're a wellow aware of the politics that we're all living through right now. You're you're obviously a lifelong, lifelong politician. You talked to Democrats and Republicans every day. You know. There's a poll
that came out recently. I believe it was from CBS News that found eight percent of Democrats think Republicans are going to destroy the country and a similar number of Republicans think the same about Democrats. Is it because nobody's talking to each other. We love, we love each other. That sounds like a family at Thanksgiving. But listen, well, um, you don't want to be with my family and Thanksgiving. Everybody knows that failed. But listen, let me say this.
One of the great virtues of this piece of legislation is it's going to teach us how to work together again. I venture to say that most everybody in America will agree with this statement that there's no good Democratic way, a good Republican way to fill a pothole. Just fill the damn pothole. Just let's get it done. Let's figure out a way how to rebuild America together. But this is about the president's leadership. He said that if you gave him the power that he would actually get this on.
Nobody gave him a chance of it in this done. If you told people when Joe Biden got elected president that he was going to create ten million jobs, have the lowest unemployment rate in the last fifty years, had the lowest number of unemployment claims that have been filed since nineteen seventy, creates seven hundred thousand manufacturing jobs, they
would have said, you lost your mind. And if you would have told them that he was going to pass for major pieces of legislation, they would have told you to go to the doctor and get your head check. He did all of those things. But listen, inflation is a real problem for Americans and by the way, for everybody in the world. There are a hundred economies in the world that have significantly higher inflation rates than we do.
And that's why the presidents so fighting so hard to keep cost down and to lower costs for average Americans, which is what really elections are about. I can't speak specifically to the day to day elections because of my position, but I can say as a politician that that you know, people should reward good choices and the choices that the President has made has put America in a position better than any other country to withstand this incredible pain that
we're feeling from inflation, because Putin's war and because of COVID. Well, you know the narrative out there right now, there's a fair chance that Democrats could lose the House. I don't need you to weigh in on that today, but you know, when you consider that what you just told me, this laundry list, this this so this list of of of
accomplishments that the president has. There's been a lot of talk about a late pivot to the economy, mayor that maybe you should have been out there all summer talking about infrastructure instead of Democrats talking about the Roe v. Wade ruling, for instance. Is there still a chance to tell your story. Well, let me say that since last November fift not only have I been out there, but Cabinet secretaries have been out there, The President has been
out there. Members of Congress and the Senate they've been. Over a thousand events they have been. And as a matter of fact, if this wasn't important to Republicans, can somebody please explain to me why they've taken credit for it? I mean they voted against it, as as a speaker said,
they voted no, and they want the dope. And every Republican that I'm aware of who was actually against the bill is actually out there touting the fact that the Moneys are coming to their communities to build roads and bridges and amples. So what do they tell you when you're at events with internet, Well, they're like, again, there's no Republican a democratic way to do it. Let's get it done. But look, there's politics and then there's politics. But at the end of the day, there's policy that
transforms America and makes a better America. So this is what I'm working on, is a two, three, five, seven year program to teach America because this is what the President's vision was, how to do great things again. And history is going to record really, really well that if we do this investment appropriately, that this was a point in time when America actually got itself right and got it headed in the right direction, and it'll be because
of President Biden's vision. Well, Mitch Landry, I think of you as kind of like the Democratic Santa Claus. This you're the Cajun Santa Claus. This year for the White House because you're the guy with your dolling out all the money here, what kind of a story can you tell voters about what they have not seen yet. There are a lot of projects in the pipeline, in fact, a lot more than you've even had a chance to begin. And I realized that was the story originally. But people
have short memories. They want to know when the crane are coming. Well, thank you for first of all, thank you for calling me Santa Claus. I love of Santa Claus. What do you in the But but I'm doing a lot. We'll look, we're building a team up here so that the federal government was working with state and local governments. We're actually getting money out of the door a hundred and eighty billion, and then we're actually telling the story. So the story is that we're rebuilding roads and bridges
and airports and ports. We're making sure that we lay down high speed internet so no little girls got to sit in the backup her mama's car outside of McDonald's to find out how to do her homework or to realize that God given talents. We're cleaning up the air on the water, and we're getting ready for a clean energy economy. And by the way, the stuff coming out
of the ground as we speak. I was in New Hampshire the other day at an intersection that's being built, um the in Dairy that's actually gonna completely reconstruct that particular area of of that particular state. And that's happening all over the country. I was in East Las Vegas the other day. It's given out a twenty five million
dollar check for them to recreate the road. So get this so the kids can just safely ride their bike to and from school to church and then back across the street without getting run over because someone decided to put a highway down the right down the middle of that community. Those are the things that are happening now. Five thousand projects and then many many more to come.
But if we get it right, if we figure out how to do it together, if we don't let politics get in the way, and we invest in our future, will have a great future together. Well, well, I with that in mind, you get through this midterm election cycle. I wonder, miss Lander, are you gonna stay on this job as infrastructure coordinator passed the election? Well, I'll work at the Pleasident at the president's pleasure. He could tell me to go home tomorrow, so we'll see how that work.
But if you ask you to stay, that's something you'd do. We're gonna have a conversation about it again, I want to say. But I work at his pleasure, and that's why I'm here in the day he tells me to get out of here, I gotta go home, and I'm not gonna let the door hit me on the way out. Are you taking lessons right now? Speaking of that, Doris always swinging, Mr Mayor, and you know that as well as anybody. Are you taking notes right now on your own run for president? No, sir, I'm not. I'll work
for the president and he's gonna run again. He's gonna win again, and we're gonna build a better Americans together. Well, I don't mean twenty four I mean anytime down the road. You've you've got a story to tell. A smart politician you never say, you know Joe Biden. Joe Biden is my president. I love him. I'm thrilled that he got elected. He's doing a great job. He is a decent, kind, tough, smart person who's led America in a beautiful way, and
he's gonna keep doing it. I think people are gonna be surprised at how well we do in a couple of weeks. Joining us live from the north lawn of the White House, Mitch Landry, thank you, the former mayor of New Orleans. Thank you, sir for being with us on the fastest hour in politics. We're joining you live today from World Headquarters in New York. Rick Davis is in the house. We'll have Jeanie Schanzano our signature panel. Next. Stay right here. We'll check traffic and markets after hours
to this is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. You sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Can you believe a year went by? I had to ask Rick, is it just me? It's not a year since infrastructure? I thought that was gonna change our lives. It definitely changed Mitch Landrew's life, and arguably actually a lot of others. You have just played for you the cut of him talking to these people taking lead pipes out of their houses.
That's pretty real stuff, you know, when you talk about delivering. But it doesn't seem like it's going to make a difference. In November. The polls are at least if you believe them not looking great for Democrats, And we've been talking about this on a daily basis. As we assemble our panel, Rick Davis is with me in studio here at World Headquarters in New York. Genie Schanzano joins us as well to make our signature panel. It's great to have both of you with us. Rick. You saw and listen to
our conversation with Mitch Landrew. When you hear about a former mayor like that talking to people about the gritty stuff on the street, how do you project that on a national level? So it makes a difference because no one's talking about it right now. Yeah, I actually thought you're you asked a really good question, which is, you know,
how do you break this out? And he gave a good response saying, I've had over a thousand events and members of the cabinet all over the place, But you're right, it isn't punching through, right, I mean, And so for whatever is happening, maybe they need to stage more demonstrations
of you know, here's some cranes, here's some podles. I it's not totally clear to me how you could actually better communicate the impact of a trillion dollar infrastructure bill that we've been waiting twenty five years to get passing the Congress. At this president finally did. But um, and and maybe that falls on the president who probably should have taken a month do nothing but go around to the states and say here's what you're getting out of
this chunk of change. But um, you know, look, as he pointed out, President's busy guy, and he's got a lot of things going on. But now we're in mid terms and that didn't punch through, and Republicans in many cases are criticizing it or you know, in some money, Now, what did he say, you vote and take the though it's one or the other, but that was a bipartisan achievement.
Maybe that's not helping Democrats. Now, yeah, I think there's some defensiveness that that the Democrats can have by saying, you know, they're getting criticized for spending packages that raise inflation, but one of those spending packages is creating all these jobs and has the potential to transform communities, like the infrastructure package. But like when when you pass seven trillion dollars worth of bills in two years, it's kind of hard to distinguish if this were the only thing that
happened this year. This is all we'd be talking about, Jennie if if the cage in Santa Claus can't get this done. And I'm sticking with that, by the way, I think he accepted that. Uh Moniker, How does Joe Biden do it? I think that he did a very good job. And I love the Cajun Santa Claus, so you should make sure you copyright that. Joe. Yeah. Um, you know, I think he did a very good job doing what Democrats should be doing. And we've heard this
from Polsters. We've heard it from the best in the business, people like Stan Greenberg and Patrick Gaspard and Salinda Lake. They've come out and they've said to Democrats, this is a hard argument to make, but you can't buy into this idea that we don't have a winning message on the ec enemy and on inflation. And you've got to talk about it. And there's plenty to celebrate about what happened, and also you need to talk about what the Republicans
tried to do as well. I mean, if you just look at some of the things that the Republicans try to do, they are not very popular with the American public and so you know, those kinds of things can be put out there. The American Rescue Plan had a child tax credit relief for the poor in the middle class. The I r A brought prices down for pharmaceuticals for health insurance. And what did the Republicans try to do? They tried to stop it. They also announced they'd reinstate
Trump tax cuts for wealthy and wealthy corporations. These are the kinds of messages Democrats have to be talking about. We started to hear it, and hopefully it's not too late for Democrats, and Nancy Pelosi over the weekend was talking about it. They've got to say this more. And you know, the mayor made a very good point when he said about, you know, democrats Republicans rather voting no and wanting the dough. That's exactly the point that they
have to underscore. These are popular policies. Democrats can't shy away from them. You think about what we talked about here in the long pipeline of projects, Rick, this is gonna be going on for years, right, this will outlive potentially this president if there's only one term. But then again, is this really a story? Is this the story that that boomerangs back around to help Democrats in two years. Yeah, I would say one, it's a little disingenuous to say
vote now and and and take the dough. It was a bipartisan bill. It would never have been signed in the law, would have not passed the House or the Senate um without Republican support if we got to remember, there were a lot of renegade Democrats on the left who were complaining about this bill. So bottom line is, Uh, this on a localized basis is going to give benefits
to politicians for a decade. I mean, if you are getting that new bridge built, if you are getting the new water purification replacing those lad hypes, yeah, you know that's going to be where the impact has felt as a national issue. Democrats can stick their chest out and say, hey, we passed a once in a generation infrastructure bill that rebuilt our highways, rebuilt our systems, rebuilt our power grid, and that will be a good talking point for two
thousand twenty four. But Republicans can also say, yeah, and I was for that till you couldn't have done it without me. I asked him if he was going to run for presidents or something along those lines, because I can't help myself. Jeannie. Uh, Mitch Landrews said that Joe Biden's gonna run and he's gonna win. Is that news? You know? I don't think it's news because I think we have to hear it from from Joe Biden himself. But you know, Mitch Landrew, you know, I think he
is a viable up and comer. If if Joe Biden decides he's not going to do it, but you know Mitch Landrew working for him, of course he's gonna say he's gonna run. And you know, I wasn't even thinking twenty four though, Rick, I mean, what's what's down the road for Landrew? Yeah? I wasn't thinking of that either when you said it, but like he took the bait right away, so it was on his mind. Let's do
that again soon. Thanks. Rick and Jennie are paneled for the hour, and of course, Cajun Santa Mitch Landrew with us again on Bloomberg. Sound on, We're gonna bring you down to Florida for one heck of a debate last night to Santis and Chris next, this is Bloomberg. We've also got a debate later on. We're gonna talk about this. Dr Roz, Jhon Fetterman, this is a big one tonight.
And last night it was Florida, Rhonda Santis and Charlie Chris. Now, of course, Rhonda Santis is the man that everyone keeps talking about right as the alternative to Donald Trump, that he may in fact even run against Trump in twenty four unless he's just waiting to find out, but he's
running for re election as the governor of Florida. And Charlie Chris last night really wanted to spend some time on this and when just opened by hearing this exchange in their debate last night, starting here with Charlie Chris going after this idea of Rhonda Santis actually keeping his eyes on the White House. Listen, Ron, you talk about Joe Biden the uh. I understand you think you're gonna be running against him. I can see how you might
get confused. But you're running for governor. You're running for governor, and I have a question for you. You're running for governor, why don't you look in the eyes of the people of state of Florida and say to them, if you're re elected, you will serve a full four year term as governor? Yes or no? Yes or no run? Will you serve a full four year term if you're re elected governor of Florida? Answers looks no, he's not answering, Ques,
it's a fair question. He won't tell you. We did not agree when the candidates asking, well, listen, I know that Charlie's interested in talking about four in Joe Biden, but I just want to make things very very clear. The only worn out old donkey I'm looking to put out the pastor is Charlie Triss. Okay, somebody was sitting on that line for a while, and by the way, the moderator was correct. They had agreed not to ask questions of each other. Of course, doesn't matter when you're
on TV and no one can get to you. Emily Wilkins is with a Bloomberg Government Congress reporter who has been on the trail last couple of weeks and keeping, of course a close eye on all things mid terms for us here at Bloomberg. It's great to have you with us here, Emily. Quite a show last evening here. Knowing well correct that Rhonda Santis is likely to win, he is Joe. But look, I mean, if you're if you're going to have one debate, you may as well
bring the fire for that particular one. Sure, and yes, I mean Rohn de Santis is considered very likely to
to be Florida's next governor. It's interesting because Florida, you know, you still kind of have a lot of really competitive race for governor for senator, and this year it's just very clear Rhonda Santas is hugely popular in Florida, UM, and he does sort of have this this platform in which he could make a run for president in you know, polls don't show him for beating Trump for the nomination, but they kind of say that his Trump decides not
to run for some reason or something happens. You know, he would be a very likely next pick for a lot of Trump supporters out there. And he's a little bit more mainstream as well, so he could probably appeal
to a broader swath. I think really the goal that that Charlie Chris tried to do last night was to undercut the Santis as much as humanly possible, knowing that if he is the nominee two years from now, folks are going to more than than likely be looking back on all of his past statements, including this particular debate.
But I think, you know, Florida governor is not going to be one of the races that I'm watching closely when that's not going to keep you up really real clear poll of polls Emily has Rhonda Santis up by ten points. I mean, he could have fallen off the podium last night, probably wouldn't have mattered, right, Not, not
really at this point. I mean, yeah, there is always the chance that a debate could change something, but we're seeing just less and less and less of that as time goes on, to the point where we're seeing plenty of races where they're not even debates going on. Either the Republican candidate or the Democratic candidate or both have just decided that it's it's in their best interest to never get up on that debate stage at all. I want to hear another back and forth between Rhonda Santis
and Charlie Christ's Emily. This is when the issue of abortion came up. And I'm bringing this up because the messaging is important here is Democrats have learned that this may not be the game changer they thought it was a couple of weeks ago, a couple of months ago, in favor, of course, of the economy and inflation and so many of the issues we talked about. Listen to this back and forth beginning with Governor Rhonda Santis. I'm
proud of the fifteen weeks that we did. I know Charlie christ opposes that even though the baby is fully formed, has a heartbeat, can feel pain, and can suck their thumb. He also supports such selective abortions, which is used to discriminate against little girls. He supports dismemberment abortions where they literally will tear the baby limb from limb, And he supports taxpayer funding of abortion all the way up until the moment of birth. And that is wrong, drown that's
a slot the truth, and you know it. You know it. He wouldn't answer your question, do you want to ban abortion completely? He never got to it. He talked about Jamaica. I don't want to ban abortion. I want to make sure we keep a woman's right to choose available to the women of the state of Florida. And I want to make sure that we don't have a governor in the future who wouldn't even allow exceptions for rape or incest.
It's actually kind of amazing to me, Emily that no matter the debate, it's almost word for word on this issue. The Republican won't answer anything about exceptions, the Democrat won't talk about restrictions, and both accuse each other of things that aren't real. Uh, is this moving the needle at
all in terms of polls? Not really. I mean there is a sense that Democrats should still continue to talk about abortion and abortion access because it is important to Democratic voters and they need to come out for the mid terms. Mid Terms are so much about turnout, as you know, Joe. But one of the other things is that really at this point the spotlight is the economy and inflation, and that's really one of the things that Democrats simply cannot ignore at this point in the game.
And as far as how they talk about abortion, you're absolutely right. We've seeing kind of Republicans and Democrats kind of pick their talking points and it really does moil down a lot to painting the other side as an extreme. And this, of course is because most Americans they're not
at the extremes. Most Americans either support abortion with some limits, or they oppose abortion with some exceptions, and so what they're trying to do is basically show the candidates are are too far to one side or the other in hopes of knocking off some of that support. But in you know, in reality, if you look closely at most of these candidates and what they support, you find that most of them are actually in the middle. Of course, that you know, it really does remain to be seen.
A lot of Democrats who have talked with will quickly point to Kansas, They'll point to Alaska, They'll point to that special election in New York and say, look, we have seen abortion move the needle. There's still hope out there that it will, but at this point it's just become clear that they can't rely on abortional loans. They have to talk about the economy and inflation. Looking, it's great to spend some time with you will reassemble the panel. Next.
This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. You sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. It's not just pulling Rhonda Santis also leading in the money race. My goodness, look at this on the terminal. Since January of the Governor of Florida has raised a record hundred sixty four million dollars. He's only booked sixty two for ads, broadcast, cable, satellite, TV, radio, and so on. According to add Impact, that's more than seven times the eight and a half million that Charlie
christ is spending. So we'll see if he actually ends up spending what is left there. He of course, may not need it. As we reassembled our panel, Rick Davis is with us here at World Headquarters in New York. Genie Shanzon Sano is here to our signature panel on Bloomberg Sound On. I'm going to get into this issue of the migrant flights in a second here, Genie, but I wonder before we do, your thoughts on some of
the issues we already heard about, including their performance. I'd like to hear from both you and Rick on this because Rohde Santis has become a meme today. There's all kinds of animations of him on Twitter, and his the facial expressions. He looked uncomfortable. He had to actually look down and read that zinger line about the old donkey. I know that this isn't going to change the trajectory
of the race. Likely Jeannie. But how did they perform? Yeah, you know, when he was staring into the camera not responding when Chris was trying to ask him, you know, are you going to run for in and then he went to that donkey comment, Um, it is me making
and that's definitely not what you want out of a debate. Um. You know, Charlie christ came in trying to in some way up end the campaign, and also, I think more importantly, um, because he doesn't have much of a shot of winning at this point, is to try to show people who
this potential twenty four Canada it is. And I think he did show some you know, some of the problems that you know, de Santis had out there in trying to address some of these issues, including his failure to say whether or not he'll serve a full term, not to mention some of the other issues they talked about. So it wasn't a Santis's best performance. I think sometimes when you're in office, it's hard to switch back to
debate mode. But if he's going to run for president, it's good training ground for him to get back in that game. Is it safe to say that Rhonda Santis was not as prepared as his challenger last night. Rick, Yeah, well, he certainly wasn't very smooth, even you know, aside from the sort of violations of the rules of the debate by asking direct questions, he clearly had made a previous
decision not to respond. But even then, I mean, it wasn't really a relaxed, confident debate performance that you would expect from a guy with the kind of headwinds that he has. In fact, it makes people. I got a couple of calls after the debate from Republican operators to say, oh my god, you know there's another governor wants to run for president, is not ready, and so, you know, I think he sent a message that there's some work to be done there, at least internally within the Republican Party.
That being said, as Jeannie says, this is not about the governors race. This was all about trying to take some pieces out of him by Charlie Cris, you know, for the future. Uh. And in that regard, I thought, you know, it was relatively effective in doing that. We've talked about the migrant flights to Martha's Vineyard. Uh, there were other flights to Washington, d C. But the vineyard flights. He really owned. He had two airplanes, went to Texas.
You know the story by now. Charlie Chris of course, is going to make a big deal out of this, and you know Rhoda Santis was ready for it. Let's start with Charlie crist on the migrant flights. We have a problem at the border. We need to secure the border.
I agree with all of that, but it doesn't mean that you use Florida taxpayers dollars to charter two jets, go to Texas, lie to people to get them onto planes, fly them up to the northern part of our country, and and one of them is a one year old baby, another as a pregnant woman. You're willing to use people like that in this case, they were Hispanics Venezuelan in particular, and have them as props for your political game. You could imagine how that would work. Now, Okay, so you
have de Santis on the ropes. I'll tell you what he was unapologetic. Listen to the governor of Florida, knowing that he's got a good issue here. That's testing well, it's only when they go to d C, New York or of course, Martha's vineyard. Then all of a sudden, this is you know why, because we have elites in this country that want to impose policies on you, but they don't want to have to suffer the same consequences
that you may have to in your community. What we did, it's sad that it comes to this, but what we did put this issue front and center. They're both saying very different things here, Jeanie, but it seems like Rhonda Santis owned that last night. How did you feel, you know, I think he was stronger in these areas when he was defending some of these um you know, issues that he has confronted that quite frankly, are popular with his BA, They're popular in Florida and other parts of the country
with the Republican base. He did seem more sure footed on those. I did think Charlie Chris made a really important point, and he couched it by saying, there is a problem at the border, but you don't want to use human beings as props for political gain. That's an important statement that he made. But but De Santis had a response to it, and quite frankly, De Santis has a point when he says this did get attention to
an issue that deserves attention. But I wish Chris was able to follow up and say, what is your solution to the problem at the border beyond sending people to Martha's vineyard and that's not anywhere where they ever got. Well, it's interesting because Chris wants to make this about the people, right. Ricky even pointed out that they were Hispanics, which felt a little bit blatant, uh in that line of attack
last night. But de Santis is effective in turning it around to say, no, this is about the elites who aren't honest about their positions on this. Does he win that back and forth? Yeah? Well, look, first of all, the reaction was that the news media and the democratic elites, if you want to call them that, really reacted negatively that right, Maybe if they just said, hey, we are sanctuary cities, welcome. You know, we'll put you to work, We'll find a place to say, well, well, that wasn't
the reaction. Uh. And even today James Carville, you know, the one of the most successful Democratic strategists there ever been, he said, you know that the coastal elites and our party are killing us because we are out of touch with the problems that occur in these cities, and one of them is immigration. And so I think that that there's got to be, regardless of what this election turns out, that Democrats have to get real with themselves and decide
who do we who do we represent? Do we represent New York City in l A or everything in between. And it's not mutually exclusive, but in this case, the only way we get a solution to immigration is comprehensive immigration reform and only will happen if it's bipartisan, and right now we're nowhere near that opportunity. Well, Sebastian just pointed me to this great story on this term, reddle De Santa's biggest donor is budget hotel tycoon with a
passion for UFOs. Does anyone know anything about Robert Bigelow? Is he a friend of yours? Rick? I wish he was a friend of mine. I get better raided at ten million dollars a ten million dollar contribution back on July seven, the Budget Suites of America hotel tycoon reached out to the Santiss office to help deliver this uh.
In the past he had given small amounts apparently, but he's going for the big one here, and they often in the past at least advanced his well known passions researching UFOs aliens and Rick whether the human soul can outlive the body after death. Of course, someone with that pursuit would go to Florida, right, Genie, is this someone you know? It's not someone I know, but I too am fascinated by UFOs, So you know, if he wants to support me, I will passionately research them as well.
Is this the kind of guy to million dollars you want to have three to one? Yeah? I want. I want to commune with this guy. If he knows something about UFOs, I just as soon like to know when the countdown to oblivion starts. Let us know. Yeah, Look, I think people contribute money for all kinds of reasons. This is at least something entertaining here here the afterlife. While I still have a Rick and Genie with us, We're gonna go back to the White House. Uh, just
for one more here today, one more shot. And I mean that literally here Joe Biden is He's getting his booster shots on camera all the time now, and it's become like, you know, we don't have fireside chats but they're like booster side chats. Now, if you want to get questions to Joe Biden, go to this event because it takes a long time to roll up your sleeves. Sit down, say hi to the nurse. Sit there, get the shot at He's just a sitting duck up there
on stage. Let's bring you into the room now because serious stuff came up today. He rolls up the sleeve, he gets the shot here. He is the dirty bumps as it relates to Ukraine. Do you believe that this is the beginning of a false flag operation? Is Russia preparing to deploy a dirty bomb itself for a nuclear weapon? It puts the jacket on for this answer. I spent a lot of time today talking about that. Let me get back up to the podium, back on the mic.
Should be making incredibly serious mistake for to use a tactical nuclear weapon. I'm not guaranteeing you that it's a false flag operation yet, don't know, but it would be a serious, serious mistake. I'm bringing this up not only to talk about Joe Biden's optics today, Rick, but also the White House has had a pretty great track record predicting what Russia is going to be doing by simply taking their word for it. They're now telegraphing that they might use a dirty bomb in Russia to try to
get some sort of false flag operation going. Is a smart for the White House keep seeing it out loud? Well, I do think it prepares the American public for what could be you know, very important period of time. And look, this administration has done an enormously good job of using intelligence as propagandis and also as information for both the Ukrainian military and as people and and the rest of the world. So kudos to them for smoking these guys out and try to try to stop bad things from
happening before they happen. Uh. And so I think he's I think he's doing the right thing. I'm not sure I would do it, you know, with a fresh shot in my arm. I mean, I think this is an important thing that could use a presidential address out of the Oval Office. Does that mean it's going to happen or not going to happen, Jennie, Hopefully it does not happen. And he's right to say he can't confirm or deny it, but it is certainly a possibility. And kudos to him
for doing it right after a shot. I agree with shot. It reminded me I need to get my shot. Meet you back here tomorrow. Rick and Jennie will be with us. This is Bloomberg.