Sound On: LA Mayor Race Divides Hollywood, McConaughey on Gun Laws

old friend Rick Caruso for mayor. Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. The biggest primary day of the cycle has arrived. Welcome to the fastest hour in politics as we follow key races from California to New Jersey that will help set the stage for the mid term elections. Bloomberg's elections guru Greg Giro joins us in just a Moment with what you need to know tonight

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us for the hour. We step out of Washington to start the hour because people are voting right now in seven states across the country, the busiest day in the cycle before the general election, and we've got a close eye on California we have for a couple of days here along with several other states that Bloomberg's Greg giro is writing about. Says it will help decide nominees for almost one fifth of the four dred and thirty five

House districts. So let's call it super Tuesday. Can we say that Greg's got a comprehensive right up and I encourage you to find it on the terminal. Make it sound smart at the cocktail parties later, Greg Giroux, welcome back, Happy primary day. We're gonna get to the l A mayor's race, which has apparently divided Hollywood. I'm hearing, but I want to start with a Republican member of Congress who could be endangered, and there's a Trump connection. David

Valadeo the son of immigrants. He's a farmer with deep roots in the Central Valley. David Valadeo among ten Republican members who voted to impeach Donald Trump in January and the first to face primary voters, at least among those seeking reelection. Graduo is he the canary in Trump's coal mine.

It's definitely a district to look at. California has fifty two districts, more than any other state, and the other I have what's known as a top two primary, where everybody runs on one ballot, Democrats, Republicans, candidates and other parties, and I can read some mischief and confusion. And the problem for the challenge for the Republicans in that district and at least one other district, is that the Democrats

have one candidate, but the Republicans have several. David Valadeo has a challenger on his right who's very running as a Trump aligned Republican. Although the former president has stayed unusually quiet about this race. I was going to ask you about that. You've got two Republicans challenging him, right, the former City council and Chris mathis Education Board trustee Adam Madeiros neither endorsed by Trump. What happened to the retribution? Yeah,

that's a good question. I think, um it may have something to do with the fact that m Valadeo represents a district that's next door to Kevin McCarthy's, and it may be the case that McCarthy prevailed on the former president or his advisors that this district, which leans Democratics, an anti Trump district. It's probably the only It's a district where David Valadeo, who has crossover appeal, is probably

the only Republican who could win that district. This is gonna be though a bit of a foreshadowing for the others. I think there are six if I remember, seeking re election who voted Republicans that is to impeach. That's right, you have six of them. You had ten total, and six of them are seeking re election, and David valaday was the first to face the voters. Fascinating. These are some of the races you might not be hearing as

much about in in mainstream election coverage. So we want to bring it to you, and I really hope the best that person behind you, Greg. I'm starting to worry a little bit um the mayor's race. We've got to talk about this. It's a fascinating one because we read it his divided Hollywood, and how can you go wrong with a story like this. Celebrity endorsements sunned both sides here as we consider the way this has unfolded with

Rick Caruso and Representative Karen Bass. We've talked about the money Caruso dropping thirty four million dollars two Karen basses too, but it's the battle of the endorsements Greg that is really cut my attention here, my goodness, listen to Kim kardash you. The election is coming up, and I just wanted to share my thoughts on Rick Carew. So I think that he um really can help with the crime in our city, which is such a big issue and super scary, but also the homeless issue. It's it's such

a problem. You're going to hear that, by the way, and almost all of these for both candidates crime, homelessness. We set you up for this already. On the other side, for and I'm not trying to compare celebrities here, I mean, my goodness, there are several on each side. I'm Irvan Magic Johnson and I'm so proud to endorse my friend cam Bass to be the next mayor of Los Angeles. I've been so blessed to know Karen and work with her for over twenty seven years. Greg, I could play

these all hour. The number of celebrities who have gotten involved in this race is remarkable, and some of them might stump you. I mean, you've got Gwyneth Paltrow going for Caruso, the Republican turned Democrat. What's going on here? Yeah, it's called a motley crew of people who have decided to endorse either the major candidates there, Crusoe Invtance, you mentioned, Kardashian, Peltrew, Elon Musk has praised the Crusoe, Wolfgang Puck, maybe even

Snoop Dog. It's quite quite a group of Oh Snoop is Caruso as well? Right? I think? So? Yeah, It's kind of hard to keep track of all of but but certainly I think if we'd ever see anything like this, it would be in a Los Angeles race. And um, yeah, you mentioned Crusoe's big spending of money. Karen Bass um not as much, although she has a long record as an office holder, former Assembly speaker in California and as

a member of Congress in the Los Angeles area. Yeah, and you know, I see Adam Schiff Nancy Pelosi to those kind of endorsements matter in this race, in a citywide race. Oh it could, I mean it can. You know, It's kind of like a nice good housekeeping seal. It can help, you know, deliver some money. Um. I don't know how many votes it will actually bring in favor for the candidate, but it's uh, it's certainly hurt helps more than hurts. We'll listen to the way Karen bass

is framing Rick Caruso, her challenger in this race. What do we know about Rick Caruso? We know he was a registered Republican for decades, and not just any kind of Republican. Caruso served as a senior advisor to President Trump, It's true. And now he's taking a page straight from the Trump playbook and another Trump connection here, Greg, is that fair in the ad by the way? Uh? Well, um, I'm not too familiar with Caruso's background enough to to know that, but he does. I do know that he

was previously registers of Republican. I don't know that that end of his Trump ties. But Los Angeles is so overwhelmingly Democratic that any uh, you know, certainly any past Republican ties. I think, you know, a Democrat would like

to uh tie to that candidate. Although you know, I think what Caruso is trying to do is uh try and win in the same way that Richard Reardon did three decades ago, kind of a wealthy, modert Republican businessman spent a lot of money on the race at a time when crime was a big issue as it is today in Los Angeles. We'll see though, Um the Laze polls I've seen have um pass and cruise of both both around the thirties, and so this is gonna be

real close. I think it should be. Well, you mentioned crime, as I mentioned crime and homelessness in every one of these endorsements is mentioned at some point and in some form. Not everybody uses the same the same verbiage, of course, but it brings us to the recall election for District Attorney in San Francisco. Chase A. Boudin, elected in ten and was a number of d as elected in districts across the country by progressive voters who wanted to lower

incarceration rates and maybe take a different approach. And my goodness, a recall election is all you need to know about how well it's been going. Uh. Is this something that's getting an enormous amount of tention in San Francisco? And do we have a sense of of how much danger the d A is in. I'm not sure how much danger the d A is in, but it's a very serious recall election. UM, And yeah it's UM. It's certainly getting a lot of attention I think, certainly in San

Francisco and in California. Maybe not as much on the East coast, but I think it will certainly if the if boudin is UH is recalled. But it does really call to attention some of the you know, that wave of progressive district attorneys who got elected in twenty nineteen on campaigns of reducing incarceration, ending cash bail and so forth. So that's certainly one of the UH, certainly one of the more local races I'll be keeping a eye on tonight.

The big one, of course, the gubernatorial Uh. Is this the slam dunk for Gavin Newsom, even though he's got twenty five people running against him? Yeah, it's um yet yet another long ballot in California. Um, I think he'll

be fine. You know, there was some when he know, he survived a recall election last year, as as our listeners know, and you know, there was some I think some uh talk kind of early in that camp campaign that perhaps there was an opening or some vulnerability for new somebody wound up when that race about as handily as he won his original race inen have more than

twenty percentage points. California is just so overwhelmwhelmingly democratic. Excuse me that there's just really isn't really an opening for

a Republican. Yeah. What does it say about the progressive brand though, in California of all places, Well, it's I think it's still pretty pretty pretty strong there at least, um, you know, notwithstanding what we might see in some of those local races that d A races, But just to see Gwyneth Paltrow and others, you know, making videos of themselves talking about street crime and home homelessness, it's just a different vibe than it was in the last election. Yeah,

it really is. I think it's I think it's a very different vibe in kin of those local elections. Maybe l a mayor San Francisco d a recall. But in statewide federal elections, UM yeah, it's still overwhelming the Democratic state and um yeah. Typically a progressive Democrat can win statewide in California in most statewide federal elections and then

also most of the congressional districts. Ye, Greg, I could throw races at you all night, and my goodness, the way you've laid this out on the column makes it very accessible for people. But of course we don't have enough time to do that. I would ask you, what are you watching that I might not be thinking about tonight? Where should we be casting our eyes here when results are coming in? Uh? Well, we've got um. We mentioned

David Valadio at the top. There's also a race in Orange County in southern California where you have a first term Republican Congressman Young Kim running in a district that's about new to her and kind of like in the Valideo race, who faces a much more aggressively conservative challenger, and there's only one Democrat on the race, and in both races that Democrats would like to see the more

conservative candidate to non incumbent advance. So you know in these top two primers is always some opportunities for a little bit of mischief. We'll see if that if that works, but that's a race to watch. And also Ryan Zinki and Montana He's trying for a comeback after being Trump's Interior secretary. That Republican primaries tonight and do a whole show on that one. Greg, great to go through this with, right, Duro Bloomberg Government Elections Reporter five on the terminal. Love

the panel. Next, this is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. You sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. I mentioned Kim Kardashian, right, did we hear? No? Was that Gwyneth Paltrow. I can't keep track of the endorsements. Even Norman Lear got involved. I'm not I'm not kidding, And yes he did endorse Karen Bass This of course the l A mayor's race. If you're just joining us, welcome

to the fastest hour in politics, Bloomberg Sound On. I'm Joe Matthew and Washington back in the bubble and we assemble the best panel in the business. Rick Davis is here along with Jeannie Chanzano, Bloomberg Politics contributors. I don't know who you'd rather meet. You know, the election is coming up, and I just wanted to share my thoughts on Rick Caruso. I think that he um really can help with the crime Kardashian or Paltrow. Hi, I'm Gwyneth

Paltrow and I'm a native Angelina. I was born here and I've spent much of my life in this amazing city that I love very much. I think we need to be honest with ourselves that l A is experiencing a tough time right now, and I think we really need a leader who can come in and has the strength to solve some really tough problems. So that is why I am endorsing my old friend Rick Caruso for

mayor Are they really old friends, Jeanie? How are this many movie stars, musicians, athletes, Hollywood elites getting involved in such a personal level. Everyone's making a video for crying out loud. Yeah. You know, when you're a billionaire and you've developed all these popular outdoor shopping centers like the Grove, they you imagine Kim Kardashian's boyfriend, Can we call them that?

Pete Davidson was just pictured at the grove. So I think there's a don't ask me how I know that Joe Matthew, but I feel I'm so connected, um, so you know, it's not a stretched to me that they all know him. Um, you know. And this is Hollywood, so they're all gonna come out. But I do think the issue that the issues that are driving this are

of course rising prices, crime and the homeless issue. And it is across the state and across the country, and it's really a civil war with Democrats between the progressive policies and the more establishment And I thought Greg was so right when he raised Richard Reardon, who came in in the ninety nineties and a very very liberal, progressive city, as a conservative ready to take on the issue of crime. And we're seeing something similar in both l A, now

San Francisco, potentially in New York City. What's happening, Rick, when you hear progressives and movie stars making videos about crime as they sit on their couches at home, crime and homelessness. You know, I've I've always been very skeptical of the impact of entertainers on the electorate. I've never actually seen it work particularly well I've seen it backfire a number of times. Uh, and so I I don't think a lot of this noise and it's highly entertaining.

I mean it's fun to listen to um uh these entertainers opine on issues like crime. But I really don't think it's gonna amount to much. I think that you look at the amount of money even in a place like I also spent, and that's gonna have a bigger impact. Even Hollywood. I mean, they're they're just like another voter. I mean, Hollywood's chuck full of entertainers. What's the difference between an entertainer and a gardener? You play a car, Okay,

that's very good. And look, you're the one who designed the You're you're the man behind the celebrity ad, right, I mean the Paris Hilton Obama ad. You're called this out before, and that's yeah. I can honestly say I've put myself in front of the line on this one. Uh. You know, and even even politicians act like celebrities can have a backfire. So I I think there's much to

do about nothing. It is highly entertaining. I mean it is Hollywood, as you point out, but I think at the end of the day, people vote on you know, the bread basket issues, uh, the economy, and and safety in their homes and and and and all of those are up for grabs right now. And in this rice. You heard the ad I think the Karen Bass ad a short time ago that I that I played Genie where she's framing Caruso as a Trump colleague that you know,

this is not who you think he is. The former Republican who just dropped thirty four million dollars on this race is misleading you. Is that resonating it? Can? You know? I thought we were going to play a game where you played some of these endorsements and had Rick identified the voices, and Rick actually hangs out with all the people. Does that he does? Um? You know, I do think that that is probably an effective strategy. I mean, we can't forget Carusoe was a Republican just switched to the

Democratic side recently. Um, you know, he does have these connections, but I don't think that overcomes the reality of the situation.

You know, you look at some of the data. Shootings up from two years ago in l A, a robbery up, almost comicides up almost thirty Those are big numbers, and of course we've had you know, really high profile crimes against wealthy people in San Francisco, in l A. So you know, when you talk about lifestyle people paying a lot of money and taxes, inflation is high, homelessness is high,

crime is high, and they want relief. So it's not enough to simply say, you know, and I'm not saying Bass is doing this, but that Carusoe is connected with Trump. She's got to make the case that she has the policies and she's not somebody who's going to you know, embrace, you know, sort of this idea that people think went too far when it comes to criminal justice reform that's not also keeping the city safe. That's a real issue. We talked about David Voladeo a little bit earlier his

race in this primary that's taking place today. Rick one of ten Republican members of the House who voted to impeach Donald Trump. What happened to the retribution tour? Trump did not endorse the Republicans challenging him. Yeah, I think that you're the point that was made earlier about the district being next to Kevin McCarthy's might have had something

to do with it. Uh, it is actually kind of refreshing, Uh that with all these states in play and all these districts, that there's actually no real Trump footprint on any of these races in a big way. We just got through last week which was just all Trump all the time. So Uh, the fact that David Valadeo has has escaped that, um, I think is a tendency maybe for the future where it's like, maybe Donald Trump isn't on the vengeance tour anymore. Rick and Jenior with us

for the hour the Signatures Sound on Panel. I'm Joe, Matthew and Washington. We're gonna turn to what happened today at the White House, Matthew McConaughey as Press secretary, and the road to compromise on gun legislation. We'll talk about it with Emily Wilkins. Next. This is Bloomberg and welcome to Sound on the Tuesday edition. As we returned to the nation's capital here and just in time to bump into Matthew McConaughey at the White House. That happened today.

He was on Capitol Hill yesterday and you might wonder why. Just hours after President Biden was briefed by Senator Chris Murphy, the Democrat from Connecticut, on the talks that have continued here with Senator John Cornyn, this bipartisan group of senators working on some compromise over some new gun laws. Matthew McConaughey is brought into the briefing room by the Press

Secretary Karine Jean Pierre. You Valdi, Texas because where I was born, I swear my my mom talked kindergarten less than a mile from rob Elementary, the valleys where I learned to master Daisy bb gun. Took that two years before I graduated to a four ten shotgun. Your valley is where I was taught to revere the power and the capability of the tool that we call a gun.

Your valley is where I learned responsible gun ownership. Remembering he recently considered a bid for Texas governor, decided not to run, and he was up there for a while, ten fifteen minutes. I'd have to go back in time. This most of it was written. He did add lib around the text. He had a piece of paper on the podium there, hair slicked back the glasses. He was,

you know, jacket on the serious approach. This was not this is not alright, alright, alright, and he got emotional, held up green converse sneakers belonging to one of the kids and his wife. H apparently spent quite a bit of time with the victims families, and he did have his recommendations for how to handle this, as you just heard, not only from Vivaldi where he learned how to shoot, but one who is involved in policy. Now, we need to invest in mental health care. We need to say

for schools, we need to restrain sensationalized media coverage. We need to restore our family values. We need to restore our American values. And we need responsible gun ownership. Responsible gun ownership. We need background checks. We need to raise the minimum age to purchase in a our fifteen rifle to We need a waiting period for those rifles. We need red flag laws and consequences for those who abuse them. These are reasonable, practical, tactical regulations. Gives you a sense

of what this was like. Did it work? Can't imagine. I kept thinking this is either a good idea or it's going to be a bad one for the White House. I don't know how this will be received. Of course, the White House asked repeatedly, Well, why was Matthew McConney there. Again, it's his karine, John Pierre, the Press secret Matthew was here because, as you heard, he has a very personal connection to you. Of all day he met with the family.

He is from there, he was born there, he lives in Texas, and we thought hearing from him directly him using his platform is incredibly important. Is that true. There's a controversy over how does McConaughey McConaughey, which one is it. It's McConaughey. So I had it right, Okay, I think I had it right. Thank you. Emily Wilkins is with us because, as I mentioned, Matthew McConaughey, he was also

on Capitol Hill yesterday. He's trying to speak with lawmakers about this, and talks have been going on by phone with these lawmakers, namely Murphy and Corn and Bloomberg. Government's Emily Wilkins a friend of the program. Um, I don't know if anything's change generalely. We've been talking about this every couple of days here, but it does sound to me when I hear from Corn and Murphy like there will be a product they're going to have a bill at some point here in the next week. That is

what we continue to hear. We know that negotiations are alive and well, and we know the lawmakers tend to negotiate that are when they are actually in the same space with each other, rather than you know, via zoom or or remotely as they were doing for the past week. And so we are trying to accords focus on exactly what this bill might actually look like, and we're starting to see a little more of the shape of it. Uh, certain things like raising the minimum age for purchasing semi

automatic weapons to one from its current eighteen. It doesn't seem like that is going to be something that's going to be included. You're hearing a lot of strong opposition from Republicans on that, but you do see movement to

and act these so called red flag laws. These are the ones that you know if if you have a loved one, a family member, someone in your community who you think is going to be violent to themselves or others, that is going to sort of you have a process now to be able to make sure that person law is off the table. We're hearing right this is gonna be some it's going to be an incentive for states to pass their own red flag So I mean we're

talking about it. It does sound like tell me if I'm wrong the bare minimum here, Emily, I mean, yes, yes, I mean this is not I think if you ask kind of Democrats what their ideal gun legislation would be, I mean, you've seen them pass things like experieting background control. You're going to see them take up legislation tomorrow that would have a federal red flag gun law. So this isn't what Democrats would be hoping for. I think for most gun groups, it's not what they would be hoping for.

But I think there's also an understanding in Washington that this is such a difficult issue to move forward on that there is a willingness to accept what can be done, even if it's only sort of seen as as a very small baby step in light of everything. They think. We're gonna be getting a better sense tomorrow. You know, as we get members of the House, they're coming in this evening, they're coming back kind of get a better sense of where they stand, kind of how they're thinking

about this. They'll be voting on legislation in the coming days. On gun storage um on again raising that minimum age. But but really, Joe, kind of everything right now is is looking at the Senate, because that's that's the tricky one. How much time does Chris Murphy and John Cornyn have? Lastly, Emily, do they have the rest of the week, they have next two weeks? When does Chuck Schumer say, all right,

we're going ahead without you. I'm going to say they have until the end of the session, which gives them the rest of this week and tomorrow aditional weeks after that. We hit that July every for more recess, and sometimes it gets really difficult to do stuff after that. You lose that momentum, you get into the mid terms, and things just get harder. Appreciate the update as always, joining us from the Capital itself. Emily Wilkins Bloomberg Government, who

I'm sure we'll be talking with again soon. Senator Chris Murphy said it to himself today. My hope is that we will be able to have a compromised product that saves lives on the table for our colleagues to consider very shortly. I'm encouraged by the discussions that we have had with Republicans over the course of the last week and a half. Every day we get closer to an agreement, not further away. Sounds like they're progressing on something. We'll

reassemble the panel next. You got to hear from Rick and Genie on Matthew McConaughey, the prospect for compromise on the fastest hour in politics. This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. You sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. As we reassemble the panel, Rick Davis and Jeannie Chanzano back together here Bloomberg Politics contributors, as we consider what the President calls a step forward. He said, any step

is a step forward. In couraged by his briefing today by Senator Chris Murphy, the Democrat from Connecticut, as you heard a short time ago, tapped to lead the charge on this. He's been dealing with John Cornyn, Republican from Texas. Enter Matthew McConaughey in the briefing room, trying to thread the needle here, of course, at Democratic White House, a Hollywood actor trying to transcend partisan politics as the native of Vivaldi told stories of meeting with families of the victims.

Also told stories of learning how to shoot in Texas and went on, we are not as divided as we were being told we are. No, how about get inspired, give ourselves just cause to revere our future. Again, he called for family values, which has been ridiculed in conservative media because again he's a Hollywood actor. What do you think about this choice, Rick Davis? You know, I said earlier, I thought, boy, this could either go real well or

maybe this is a really bad idea. And I'm not sure we have a sense of how this is going to resonate yet maybe nobody, you know, maybe he was the tree who fell in the woods, but he certainly leaned into the speech, got emotional at times. Uh. What was the point that the White House was trying to make? Who was the audience? It's hard to tell. This is a bit of a wild card, but my guess is this was the White House attempt to try and keep

focus on the issue. Right. These these horrendous events have a tendency to um fade from people's memories very quickly. And this administration, I think wants to get something done. Uh and and and by bringing a superstar into the White House, uh and having them talked about their close connection to the rob Elementary School shooting and the people of Vivaldi. Maybe just keeps the public focused a little bit longer, and maybe that keeps the pressure on the

Senate to get a deal. How does that come together? You know? Was did the actor make a phone calls? He knew somebody in the press office the White House maybe heard he was in Vivaldi. Uh. It's just interesting how these things come together, Rick, because a lot of folks who are not, you know, savvy to that process, just they see an actor up there is the guy from the Lincoln ads what's he doing? Yeah, look, I think that it could be any one of the things

that you said. I mean, it's not unusual for people to be sitting around the White House going, how can we keep this on the front page? How do we keep people's attention galvinized to get a deal in Congress. If we don't keep the pressure on, Uh, they're not gonna do anything. Because that's been the habit in the past, that's been the history. And and so someone says, hey, Matthew McConaughey's from Vivaldi. I mean, like he's been talking about it in Texas. We ought to like bring him here,

and it may be something as simple as that. And the fact that he was willing to hop on play and get to Washington. Uh, it had to be uncomfortable for him. That's not his typical gig standing in the White House and talking about these emotional things, especially with his connection to the town. So um, it came together fast, regardless of of of how it happened. I mentioned he was on Capitol Hill yesterday. Jeannie didn't tell any of

the reporters who were up there. Why uh as I guess he was, you know, conducting his own business with lawmakers there. But Frank Luntz tweeted a short time ago the polster. Of course the performance was better, he said, mcconnie better than any political leader I've ever seen on this. You imagine if a politician showed up and spoke the way he did today. Yeah, I mean, and then this is a guy who is a famous guy, and he's an actor, and of course this is very personal for him.

I would also note that we heard today from the teacher Mr. Reyas, who lost eleven students that day in Vivaldi. He gave a very emotional statement begging the parents not to be angry with him saying he did his best. I mean, these are people who are going through hell, So I agree with Franklin's he did a very good job. And I also think the White House um is doing

exactly what Rick talked about. You know, there's a very famous book called Presidential Power by Richard Newsap many many years ago, where he talks about the only power in the American president has is the power to persuade. It's the power of the bully pulpit. Because beyond that they can issue executive orders and act in very narrow ways. So the White House has got to figure out how

to persuade. And if getting Matthew McConaughey to stand up and do that today is going to help persuade constituents to persuade their lawmakers to do something, then that's what they have to do. Do I think it's going to

lead to anything beyond incremental change. Unfortunately, no, And that's the reality because Chris Murphy was at the White House today, Biden stepping in on this today with Chris Murphy, and yet after Chris Murphy said, we're not just going to settle for legislation that checks the box and yet you look at what on Corny and said on the floor yesterday.

He said no sweeping overhaul of gun laws. So we're not going to get where Matthew McConaughey wants us to get and where I frankly think we should be in this Senate. The reality is it's good. If you think it's good, it's going to be good because it's incremental. But that's about where we'll get if anywhere. At this point, here is John Cornyn on the floor. We're not talking about banning a category of weapons across the board, a band for certain high capacity magazines, or changing the background

check system by adding additional disqualifying items. We're talking about common sense, targeted reforms that are responsive to the tragedies in your vality and elsewhere, and that will, I believe, save lives. He's the man who could end up leading the party in the Senate someday, or I know he wants to to think. So, Rick Davis is does this end up being a win for Cornin or Murphy? Is this a Republican win or a Democratic one? I'm assuming

somebody's going to take credit for this. Oh sure, I mean I think that if there's a bill that comes out and it passes the Senate and gets through the House, everyone's gonna shake hands and said, well, finally we actually took a step forward. Uh. There'll be people, um, both sides that decry any kind of deal, but I think that that becomes noise in the system. I mean, look, I'd remind everybody that a week ago, you know, we were talking about whether or not a bill could pass

at all, and nobody would have thought we'd gotten this far. So, um, let's see what they come up with and and and let's see if it actually has the potential to have an impact and certainly change the attitude that the public has towards the ability to regulate. Uh, some of this industry. Interesting to think about. The next stop here. If you look at the president's schedule, uh for the rest of this week, and he's flying to l A tomorrow, the summer of the America is kicking off. And that's a

whole story of its own here. But we should have made this the celebrity edition of sound On. We started talking about the celebrity impact on the l A mayor's race. We just spent time talking about an actor Matthew McConaughey trying to get involved here in the gun debate. Tomorrow, when the President goes out to the some of the America, is one of the first things he will do is tape an appearance on the Jimmy Kimmel Show. Genie, this is how the White House is trying to get to this.

I'm sure it's not the only thing he'll be talking about. It's gonna be guns, right, it's gonna be inflation. He's going to go to the Port of l A on Friday to deliver his speech as well. They're trying to keep him in living rooms talking about these issues. They are and you know, there's there's been some frustration, particularly on the right, that Jimmy Kimmel is a known liberal and this is not going to be a tough interview of the way Joe Matthew would handle it. But it

is it is. It is an interview. It keeps him out there. I too wish he would quite frankly, would do more sit downs um and he would be more accessible to answer questions. But they are trying to keep him in the forefront because again, he's going out there and they want to make sure they are keeping this

issue and showing that the president is being active. You know, one thing I wish, quite frankly, that they would ask him is if he's really committed to gun legislation at is substantial, then why not ask for a carve out of the filibuster in this issue. If you can do it for the budget, and you can do it for economic reasons, why not to save kids lives? So that's not the kind of question we're likely to hear, but I think it's a fair one that he should be asked.

I wonder Rick has mean? Is that the right form? Kimmel is an activist. We've seen him get involved in the healthcare debate. We've seen him crying over stories like these and his monologues. What if he tries to score some points go after Joe Biden on TV? You know, look, I'd I'd be shocked if Jimmy Kimmel did anything other than throw softballs in an orchestrated environment with the president. Um, and I agree with Jeannie, this is I mean, Jimmy

Kimmel isn't a serious interviewer. Why, I mean, he's an entertainer. He does a night show, He tells jokes. UM, why is the president United States thinking this is a way to communicate to the people. So this is not the forum you'd be putting him in. If absolutely not, I think that he owes it to people. He said this

was gonna be the month he talked about inflation. When we can talk about inflation, what is his position on what's he gonna talk about in the summit of the America's I mean, China's out there spreading its my line influence all over the region. He hasn't said a word about that this week, um, and a run up to that, So, uh, he's got a lot to tone for. But like this

is the non message White House. They don't seem to have a daily message that goes out of there that says, here's what we would like to convey to the American people or the world. Well, it seems to be inflation is the priority, because god knows, that's what we've been hearing on Bloomberg Rick. But I mean, isn't this though the idea here? And this is a page from the Obama playbook? And I think you you certainly put John

McCain on late night TV. Can't you get the more quote unquote real people that way than sitting down with with the a news person having that conversation. Yeah, but when John McCain went on Late night TV, he told Jokes he didn't talk about gun legislation. I mean, you know, like you got to know the audience people at eleven o'clock at nine aren't looking for a lecture, They're looking for a laugh. Right. Does he show up with Dad

Jokes Genie? Yeah, I assume he might. And you know, I think they've got to be concerned he may go a bit off script um, so I think they have to make sure that they're keeping him on track. But you know, there there's plenty of serious issues from to talk about. Let's not forget he's going to be in California gas prices. I had just had a friend if them out there tell me that they've seen stations with gas as high as eight to nine dollars a gallon.

So that's what he needs to be talking about, whether with Jimmy Kimmel or otherwise. Yeah, we're gonna be crossing that five handle on the East coast. If Bloomberg surveillance is any guide with what I'm hearing, Rick and Jenny, great talk is always boy we've got a big one here. Happy primary day results tomorrow. This is Bloomberg