Sound On: Jan 6th Hearing Latest, Biden's Trip Abroad

a vital American role in a strategically consequential regions. This diversity of this community as unique as the breakfast tacos here in San Antonio. Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Donald Trump Unhinged. Welcome to the fastest hour in politics. As the January six Committee attempts to connect the dots between the White House, the conspiracy theorists,

and the militia groups who attacked the capital. We will walk you through another here ring in which we learn of an unhinged as described Oval Office meeting in advance of the riot. Will discuss the legal path next with Don Air, Deputy Attorney General, and the George H. W.

Bush administration. Later, President Biden takes off tonight for the Middle East High Hopes for Diplomacy and Oil will be joined by Jonathan Panakoff from the Atlantic Council to talk about it, and our signature panel is in place to help us on packet All analysis today from Bloomberg Politics contributors Rick Davis and Jeanie Schanzano. So where were you on the night of December eighteen, If you were in the West Wing, you heard some wild stuff as told

today by the January six Committee. It's seventh hearing, and the argument over how to pursue fraud conspiracy claims exploded, as I read by Mike Dorning and Billy House on the terminal into an unhinged meeting in the Oval Office. That sounds like a movie trailer. Congress from Jamie Rasn, Democrat on the committee, says, Sydney pal picture that Sydney Powell, former National Security advisor, Michael Flynn, and the former CEO of Overstock overstock dot com. That's the power trio there

to push ideas on challenging the results. Here's Jamie Raskin. They were able to speak with the President by himself for some time until White House officials learned of the meeting. What ensued was a heated and profane clash between this group and President Trump's White House advisors, who traded personal insults, accusations of disloyalty to the president, and even challenges to

physically fight. He must have been something, White House aid Cassidy Hutchinson, who testified in the prior hearing, I said, this was no normal Oval Office meeting. So that was the first point that I had recognized. Okay, there's nobody in there from the White House. Marks gone, what's going on right now? Nobody from the White House. We heard from one of the administration officials who actually entered the room. Listen to White House Council Pat Sippoloni from his recent testimony.

This is from when he just sat down last Friday. We hear from him today. I saw General Man, I saw Sidney Powell sitting there. I was not happy to see the people in the overaw Well, yeah, I don't think big in the providing Well, first of all, the overstocked person I've never never everything to discussed was actually the first thing I did. I walked in, I looked at him, and I said, who were you? The overstocked CEO?

His name is Patrick Byrne, former CEO and by the way, big Trump Guy will now reportedly meet on Friday with the committee to discuss his involvement that day, possibly why they delayed the prime time hearing that was set for Thursday. That meeting took place December eighteen. As I mentioned, it was only hours later Donald Trump sent then in from his tweet inviting his supporters to Washington January six, saying it would be wild now. The committee presented more testimony.

We heard from a Twitter official described an uptick and violent postings and threats after that. While the pro Trump site that Donald Winn posted pictures of tunnels under the Capitol. They encouraged people to show up with handcuffs stand outside the tunnels. The leaders of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers started making big plans. But did the committee connect the dots as we heard would happen in advance of the hearing from Trump to those groups. How close

did they get? We take the legal view with Don Ayre, who served as Deputy Attorney General and the George H. W. Bush administration, former Principal Deputy Solicitor General of the United States and now a professor at Georgetown Law School, Deputy Attorney General, is great to have you with us year. Do you have a sense of that did they connect the dots to get close enough to Donald Trump to

make a difference today in the narrative? Well, I think you have to ask the question of connect with dots um And I think it's important to remember that what we're most basically dealing with here and the potential charges that people are I think most immediately focusing on are are the ones about trying to steal the election. And I think those dots are totally connected at this point.

I think what we have and what we had today was more specifics and more details showing how obsessed Donald Trump was with achieving the goal of overturning the legitimate election. And there's lots of colorful episodes here, and the ones you recounted in your in your lead up to this are are really excellent and colorful and wild and crazy, but they're part of a bigger picture. And the bigger picture includes other stuff going on at the same time

that we've already heard about. We've heard about him making multiple phone calls to state officials to get them to change the vote count. We've heard of him having meetings and phone calls, daily phone calls with Jeffrey Rosen at the Justice Department, getting him to proclaim falsely that fraud had been perpetrated, his efforts to influence pants, all the

things that you've heard all the evidence about. And here today we have this stuff about the lead into the rally, so proving the case that he worked hard personally really was the driving force in overturning the election. I think that case is made. Is it worth trying to prove that a Roger Stone or Rudy Giuliani was you know, had the Proud Boys on the phone, that that that that violent escalation was in fact planned in Trump's orbit? Or is that is that not a good time spent

legally as they try to build this case. Well, I think it depends on what all the evidence ultimately shows. And I I you know, I I agree that we don't yet have, from what we've heard, ironclad direct evidence between Donald Donald Trump and these people per perpetrated the fraud. But the big picture here, and the one that really matters to me and I think most people, is that we have got to get accountability when the president tries to overturn an election and steal it and stay in

office winning lost. That's what the issue is. That case I think is in the can. I think that case is ready to be made. And whether this other case about perpetrating all the violence is one that you ultimately brain against Donald Trump. I think time will tell, and I think we have to see what all the Justice Department has when all the evidence is in. Um, I think you're gonna have to know a little more than we know. Now. Yeah, I want to ask you about

witness tampering. We heard from Liz Cheney at the very end of the hearing. Some people may have tuned out by now, just some closing remarks, and she took direct aim at Donald Trump. Now, we've heard that some of the witnesses, including Cassidy Hutchinson, have received texts or calls that sound like something out of a mob movie. Hey, you hate for something to happen to you. If you know you say that, we know you're going to do the right thing. This is interesting, though, a letter from

the former president. Let's listen to Liz Cheni and we'll get your thoughts on this. Here she is. After our last hearing, President Trump tried to call a witness in our investigation, a witness you have not yet seen in these hearings. That person declined to answer or respond to President Trump's call and instead alerted their lawyer to the call. Their lawyer alerted us, and this committee has supplied that

information to the Department of Justice. Don here how severe is that charge compared to the others that we're talking about here in what is the Department of Justice up to you right now? Well, I think I think the idea that target of an investigation is interfering with witnesses and it is an incredibly serious post ability. And I wouldn't describe what she said as a charge because I think it was, you know, it was an anecdote of

something that was reported. But I think it's a It's a very positive sign that when these things are happening, they're being made public and there's got not going to be any place to hide, I think for Donald Trump or for anyone else who does this. UM. I think what the Justice Department is up to now is the job that they should be doing, and that is quietly developing the evidence in this case. They've had real help, no question from the Select Committee and the work that

they've done. But I think they're doing their job. The last thing they should be doing, and the last thing that I think Merrick Garland would want to be doing is talking publicly about where the investigation stands or pumping his chest about how he's going to get Donald Trump. That's totally inappropriate. And what do you want to see in this final hearing? We had a primetime ring set for Thursday. They postponed that they're obviously cooking up something here.

They're going to interview the former Overstocked CEO, maybe Steve Bannon is involved. How do you how do you close this? You know, I'm gonna be interested to see because I don't think there's a clinker in the deck of the seven hearings they've had so far, so I have I have a lot of respect for the people that are putting on the presentation here. I don't know. I think we're going to hear more about at least part of it.

I've I've been I've heard say today is we're going to hear more about um Donald Trump's day on on on January six, and and what else they'll put on I think is a function of what more evidence they've got. I guess the thing I would just stress as the overarching point is there's so many facts here, there's so many specifics and so many, you know, really bad things that Donald Trump personally has done that it's hard to keep the all in mind and see them in the

context of each other. And that's really what we have to do, because it's a big picture. He was the man running the train on all of these different aspects of this conspiracy. That's the amazing realization from his hearing. Don Air, thank you so much for the time to get us rolling here on Bloomberg Sound On. We would love to stay in touch with you as these hearings roll.

We've got one more. It's gonna be prime time and we'll let you know once it's scheduled and we'll assemble our panel next for a lot more on this with breaking news again on the terminal here, and it has to do with Twitter, with the Twitter General counsel now discussing a lawsuit in a memo against Elon Musk, telling staff that it asked for an expedited trial and asking a judge in Delaware for the case to be heard in September. Charlie Pellett will have more on that coming

up in just a few minutes. We're gonna keep the beat on the January six hearing, though, and what we learned today what will matter to the d o J. With Rick Davis and Jennie Chanzano. This is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Sound on on Bloomberg Radio. The January six Committee refers a story of witness tampering, at least a suggestion by Congresswoman Liz Cheney from Donald Trump himself recently

attempted to contacts. He says, an unnamed witness in the committee's investigation of the riot didn't get back to Donald Trump, sent it to the committee, who referred it to the d o J. One of the things that we learned today in the hearing, did we have something on that? If I missed that, forgive me. One of the live witnesses today, though, was a man named Jason Van Taytenhoff, described as the former spokesman for the oath Keepers, Right, this was the hearing that was going to connect the

dots to the militias. By the way, former spokesman for the how does that work? To the oath keepers? Run an ad for a spokesman, he was getting paid. He talked about how you know, his life, he had to

give up his job and lost his income. Anyway, he shows up in the congressional hearing with a faced tattoo, wearing a denim jacket and had some pretty scary stuff to say as he tried to make the point that this was real what you saw there on January six, that this group, the Oath Keepers, the dangerous militia as he described at that attracted white nationalists and quote straight up racists unquote. He said they were there to participate in a riot. Listen to Jason van Tatenhom. There was

a gallows set up in front of the capitol. This could have been the spark that started a new civil war and no one would have won there. That would have been good for no one. As we assemble our panel today, forgive that delay. Rick Davis and Jeanie Schanzano, we thank you for being with us as always here Nie, what did we learn that was new that moved you? Was it witness tampering or was it, in fact the conversion as Jamie Raskin has called it, trying to get

these groups to show up and cause trouble. Well, you know the the clip you were just talking about. I thought one of the most chilling aspects of the day. And I have I have a list of them, Joe, but I won't go through all them. But one of the most chilling was both Jason vand Um Tattenhoff is that how you say his name? And taitten Hoff and and Steven Ayres who testified live today, They both of their own accord, warned about what can happen in the

next election, and I thought that was incredibly chilling. They said, and essentially, this is not over. There is a reason that we are here and that we need to address this publicly because this thing is not over. I thought that was chilling. I thought Liz Cheney's bombshell at the

beginning or at the end, sorry about witness tampering. And also at the beginning when she told I think the Department of Justice, but anybody who would listen that Trump is a seventy six year old man, he's not an impression of child, and he is responsible for his actions. Those are the three things that really caught my attention. What did the d o J care about that they heard today? Rick? You know, I think they heard that about intent. Just as Jeanie was saying, Steven Airs made

it very clear that they're intent. They hung on every word of Donald Trump, and he was telling them to go wreck violence on January six, Whether it was in the original call to you know, his supporters at one forty two a m. Who tweets at one forty two a m. After this wild White House meeting, I mean, and uh and and and all the way through the process to the point where they stormed the Capitol, they

were acting on his orders. At least we're talking about guys reading Twitter or guys who were getting phone calls

from people in Trump's orbit. Well, I think I think it's all of the above, because what we're finding out is that once Trump sort of announced the event, it's set into motion all his lieutenants and all his operatives in the States, even some of the campaign actually you know, recruiting and turning people out to the degree that the oath keepers actually you know, held organizing conference calls and zooms in advance of the event, tell him people to

bring you know, violent equipment with them. So he owes a responsibility to American public for having put those things in emotion and and all along the way, including on the steps of the Capitol, inciting them to violence. And so I think the justice parts look at that going is you know exactly what don Air was saying, Um, you know, uh, she was there there, probably causing him trying to overturn the election. Sure, uh and uh and and and this is just one of the chapters in

that book. Dohn Air told us Genie that they've they've made the case uh for trying to overturn the election, that the tampering uh with election results is as good as done. Uh. With that said, what do we need to hear or see in the final hearing that wraps

this up in an effective way? And should they were furthest to the d o J. Yes, yes, And and you know, I think what we're going to hear is what the chairman described as a supreme dereliction of duty and what exactly what Donald Trump was doing on January six.

Then I was very happy to hear a lawyer and don Air talk about the fact that they have established a legal culpability at least enough to refer it to the d o J. The question here, since I'm not a lawyer, is what has to happen next, and that is that Merrick Garland's got to be as convinced as Liz Cheney is about the historical fact that if they, if Donald Trump and the people accountable for this are not held accountable, what history teaches us is it will

repeat itself. And I go back to what those the witnesses were saying today. You know, you look at somebody like like Timothy Snyder's on tyranny, This happens again if it's not addressed. And that's I think the big message out of today. Well, there you go, number seven from the January six Committee. Rick and Genie are with us on the Tuesday edition of Bloomberg Sound on the Fastest Hour in Politics. President Biden gets on air Force one hours from now on his way to the Middle East.

We'll talk about it next with high hopes here in Washington and at the gas station. This is Bloomberg. The President's National Security advisor, Jake Sullivan brief reporters ahead of Joe Biden's trip to the Middle East. He takes off tonight on the way to Israel and then Saudi Arabia, but he started with news on Iran, not directly tied to the President's trip, but certainly informing it and maybe

providing the backdrop for it. As Sullivan has news that the Iranian government is providing Russia, I'll let him say it, with hundreds of drones for use in Ukraine. Here's Jake Sullivan. The Iranian government is preparing to provide Russia with up to several hundred U A V s, including weapons capable U a V s on an expedit expedited timeline are in.

Information further indicates that Iran is preparing to train rush and forces to use these U A B s, with initial training sessions slated to begin as soon as early July. It's unclear whether Ron has delivered any of these U A B s too Russia already early July. So here we are, so now with more questions about the purpose of this trip. Is it just to get more oil? Because we keep hearing Saudi Arabia, the U A E the only two nations that have spirit capacity three million

barrels a day combined. Let's see he gets all of that oil and brings it home to the United States with refining capacity already spoken for, Does it actually make a difference? Maybe not according to some people, but as we heard or read and the President's op ed over the weekend, at least the White House says there are much bigger plans within the eye on the Abraham Accords and potentially normalizing relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia had

an awfully precarious time in our history. That's where we begin with Jonathan Pannakoff, director of the Atlantic Council's Brent Skullcroft Middle East Security Initiative, Former Deputy National Intelligence Officer for the Near East. Jonathan, how ambitious is Joe Biden feeling as he gets on Air Force one, Well, good afternoon to you, and thanks so much for having the I think he's not feeling that ambitious. To be honest, I think there are places that he knows that he

can advance, both Israeli, Saudi and others um engagement. UM. I think more than anything, this trip is really about resetting relations with Saudi Arabia and with some of his other golf allies, including the United to Emirates. But when it comes to the oil itself, as you said, three million barrels, I've heard the number might be as little as two million barrels. The fair capacity just isn't really there, and the odds that it's going to have a meaningful effect,

I think on oil prices are is pretty minimal. I think what he's really hoping more than anything, is that if he can stabilize the relationship now that he can move it beyond just the traditional energy and defense sectors and really expanded to economic issues, to climate issues, UM two other alternative energies, and as well of course as security. What is he's going to the West Bank as well?

What does this mean for the potential you know, to state solution as he becomes the first president to fly from Israel to Jetta on Friday. Yeah, so I don't think that the saudiast in israelis are ready to normalize yet. My senses that as long as King Solomon is on the throne, it would be unlikely that Saudi Arabia would normalize relations with Israel formally unless there was a too state solution UM MBS sives the throne then obviously that

might change the conversation. He seems to have a slightly word uh progressive take on whether or not normalization UM requires a two state solution. I think for the West Bank to be honest, and for the Palestinians, what it really is is a chance to get back in the game a little bit. Obviously, they cut diplomatic relations after

the Trump administration move the embassy to Jerusalem. Reason. Yeah, that's absolutely right, and so I think this is an opportunity to try to hopefully reset things a little bit. I don't know, Jonathan, I've been hearing a lot of big talk. I mean, expectations get awfully high, especially when people start tying it to very specific things like gas prices.

The president's being beat up by Republicans for going so called hat in hand two mbs to beg for oil, is getting beat up by progressives for well, you know, not considering I guess to the extent that they think he should, the human rights record, the kah Kashogi murder, which he says he will bring up. Here are expectations perilously high, as he's set up for failure because it

doesn't sound like you see many deliverables. Well, I think that there's a few, but I certainly agree that if the expectation in the public sentiment seems to be that this will bring down oil prices, then there's going to be disappointment. I think that there are places that can

be advanced. So, for instance, in addition to UM the BI ladder exchange with the Israelis, don't be an eye to YouTube virtual conference, eye to being Israel and India YouTube in the United States and the United are of Emirates, which creates a bit of a new coalition that we haven't seen before that really could have a long term impact when we think about Israeli technology, Emirati UH capital and the industrial base that the Indians have. So I

think that's a possibility. I also think on the security side, look, the move of Israel into the sent calm area of responsibility from the ucom one is not a small move. It brings the Israelis into the same room as the Saudis, as the Cutteries, even though they don't have formal diplomatic relations. I think this is about making marginal progress, but you know, a huge deliverable. I mentioned at the outset this news of Iran supplying drones to Russia. UH, that's going to

be in the air and part of the conversation. I presume as as lines are being drawn, Jonathan, this Iranian Russian axis is becoming a bigger worry for Saudi Arabia it is. I think it shows the shifting alliances and frankly transactional nature of most Middle East states, and that includes Iran. I think at this point it's obviously going to overhang a number of different conversations, both in Israel and the president's conversations with the so called GCC plus

three UH in Jedda. At the end of the week, my senses there will be a recommitment to Israeli defense and Israeli security. I think you'll also see the same commitment to the Arab states. What that actually means purposefully, I don't quite no. I think there's some discussion about integrated air and maybe maritime defense system. That certainly would be a great starting place, but it will take some

time to develop. Jonathan, thank you for the insights. Jonathan pannakoff the Atlantic Council with us on Bloomberg sound On, What does it mean for the Iran nuclear deal? And is the President set up for failure by his own expectations? Will reassemble the panel next, Rick and Genie here on sound On. I'm Joe Matthew, this is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg sound On on Bloomberg Radio, President Biden dragging some heavy baggage with him across the Atlantic on the trip

to Israel and Saudi Arabia. They take off tonight, but our expectations too high to succeed. Let's reassemble the panel with a lot still to cover on the Fastest Hour in politics. Rick Davis and Jeanie Chanzano or here Bloomberg Politics contributors. What's your on this, Rick, we talked a bit yesterday about the broader diplomatic goals versus simply securing

more oil. But based on our conversation that we just had, it's interesting to consider a president who could come back with another story of incremental progress, like a lot of things domestically. Yeah, that's right, and um and I think that Vladimir Putin did him a little favor by, you know, arranging the week after Biden's in the region to go to Tehran for meetings there with the Mulla's who help Ran.

I think it points out that it's a competition, right If the US pulls out of the Middle East, China and Russia move in, and that's a big spot to fill. And so I think that Biden making it more of a priority than he thought it was going to have to be in his administration. Last thing he wanted to do was focus on the Middle East. UM, but he realizes now, I think that that that the US cannot abdicate its role UH in both security, defense and economics.

And economics is code for oil in the region, and so he's going to have to devote his time and attention to it. And I think he's got a good, good trip plan for that. And uh and and and and a reminder is, if we're not there, you know, Vladimir Putin and she will move right in behind us. It's got a lot to deal with here, and only two days, Genie, it seems like this has been built up despite his attempts to tamper expectations and into something more than it should be here. If we're just going

over there to hit the reset button. UH, people are are ready for for lower gas prices on Monday. Yeah. And as Jonathan just said to you, it's not going to likely have a meaningful effect on on oil prices. I don't suspect it's going to have a meaningful impact on the human rights record that America. Those are the

two big things Americas are concerned about. And you know what I do think we are starting to see and what you hear from some of the foreign policy experts, is that whereas again Joe Biden ran promising to change Donald Trump's Middle East policy, it's looking more and more like he is going to broaden and continue it. They're describing that now as a reset um and we're hearing more and more about some effort to expand the Abraham Accords,

some kind of strategic defense cooperation packed. Those are not things though you're hearing about from the White House to the American public, And I think that is the concern that you know, they're being told it's going to be about oil and maybe human rights, and it's about something else, and I think that becomes a confusing message for people. Well here, so here comes the next stuff, and that's

tomorrow CPI data. As the President is heading on this trip, the next inflation numbers are going to come out here domestically, and of course that's going to be somebody's job at the White House to react to that. The economic team here Rick. We heard from Karine John Pierre, the Press Secretary, yesterday, trying to get ahead of what could be a painful report.

Here she is, we will have new CPI inflation data, and we expect the headline umber, which includes gas and food, to be highly elevated, mainly because gas prices were so elevated in June. Gas and food prices continue to be heavily impacted by the war in Ukraine. And there are a few important points to keep in mind when we get this backwards looking data. First, June CPI data is already out of date because energy prices have come down

substantially this month and are expected to fall further. Rick Davis, isn't all economic data backward looking? Yeah? I don't understand that at all. So the people who suffered high gas prices throughout the month of June should just ignore that because they got through it and they're still alive. I mean, like,

what is that? That's insane. If it goes up over one percent, it's going to be seen as a horrible situation and everybody will be talking about the Fed coming back with another seventy basis point increase in interest rates, and and and and Biden is going to be out of town. And look, he doesn't talk about this stuff when he's here, so I guess he might as well leave town. Is it important to be getting ahead of it like this, genie. They tried this last month as well.

It's important to get ahead of it. But what you're hearing there is sort of like a Wizard of Oz. Don't look behind the curtain. It's nothing to see here. Keep moving forward. And you know that's not a message. So yes, getting in front of it, helping explain it, that would be helpful. That wasn't the message that we were hearing. And you know, we are seeing the president do what presidents do when domestic politics get tricky. They

look overseas. Meeting with the Mexican president today, you know, going overseas because what else can Joe Biden do when he's got the New York Times pole coming out saying his approval rating is like three and ten. Jill Biden apologized today, I suspect you guys saw this. I needed your take on it because the fact of the matter is, if Donald Trump said it, we would be talking about it.

And in this case, the first lady is speaking in San Antonio, Texas at the Anitos you SA Annual conference in Hispanic conference and started talking about, well, I guess the benefits of the community. Here's what she said, the diversity of this community, as distinct as the bogadas of the Bronx, as beautiful as the blossoms of Miami, and as unique as the breakfast tacos here in San Antonio for breakfast tacos. Look, and you did hear some people

laughed and clapped. Uh. There was outrage over this. Uh. The First Lady accused of being insensitive, to the point where her Press secretary Michael Rossa had to, in fact issue an apology. The First Lady apologizes that her words conveyed anything but pure admiration and love for the Latino community. Was it something to apologize for? Rick? Yeah, sure, I mean you can't call people tacos. I mean, like that's

sort of stand up on politics. And well, you know she was comparing diversity, and you know it was just predibly in artful. I mean, how that got through a White House speech writer's editing process is beyond my comprehension, because if people were laughing, I mean, it's you know, okay, but like you always laugh at what a principle says, and and so the reaction is predictable, and you gotta find ways of talking about uh, you know, diversity and and and people in a way that doesn't compare him

to a food, uh, you know, uh sandwich. So I don't know, I mean, I it's just another sort of This cycle is not good for the Biden's uh there. Every little thing they do and say on or off camera is getting heightened attention, and it's up to the staff to make sure that they're not put in an awkward position. That is not Jill Biden's fault. That is her staff's thought for having that in the speech and

not having done a better job of etting it. Do you agree with this, Jennie, Would you have gone after Donald Trump for saying the same thing? Um? Yeah, I mean, you know, you know it's not Donald Trump and it's not Jill Biden. It is she did not write this speech, and you know, should she have read it? Should she have cut that out? You know? Yeah? But but you know, yeah, but you know what the attempt was there? She apologized afterwards. It was in hurtful is the right description? You know?

I never quote him, but Ted Cruizes communication advisor said, this isn't veep, which White House speechwriter won the bet for getting her to say this. I mean, it's in it's it is a meme story you've got. You know, You've got Marco Rubio changing his Twitter profile to a taco.

You know, so it is taken on that life. But you know, in the case of Trump or Jill Biden, these these you know, they can't be responsible for everything, and they need teams around them that are working in This communications team has had trouble, is probably the nicest way to say it. And this is one example. And it's embarrassing to the first ladies. That is why we have Rick and Ginue to help us make sense of it as we try to. Now I'm going to end

on a positive note. Okay, from breakfast Tacos. You can only go up from here. With the head line on the Terminal Space telescope captures new detail of distant galaxy cluster. If you could have seen Joe Biden's face when he saw the image that you saw earlier today or last night on social media, right this new image from the James Web Space telescope. Don't tell me government does nothing good. Bring us in the room, this president. If you held a grain of sand on the tip of your finger

at arms length. That is the part of the universe that you're seeing, just one little speck of the universe. Today's historic day. Six and a half months ago, a rocket Launchermarth carrying the world's newest, most powerful deep space telescope on a journey one million miles into the cosmos. First of all, that blows my mind. A million miles into the cosmos. You know, a hundred years ago, Miss President Madame Bidge, President, a hundred years ago, we thought

there was only one galaxy. Now the number is unlimited. Light where stars were born and from where they die, Light from the oldest galaxies, the oldest documented light and the history of the universe from over thirteen billion let me say it again, thirteen billion years ago. It's hard to beat it. Fathomed more than four billion years ago, the distant Galaxy cluster. With great inspiration at the White House. They should have more events like that, you know, how

about that for the new strategy. When things aren't going great, bring NASA in. They're doing incredible. I it this was in credible. Rick Davis. Did you see the images? They blew my mind last night and this morning. Yeah, I want to be an astronaut now exactly. But this is the kind of thing and I'm not kidding around here in our remaining seconds, Genie, that we never talked about. Just we trashed through the politics. But this is also

happening in Washington. It is and it is. It's what the government does, and they need you to do the music underneath these rollouts. Joe Matthew, it's amazing. What the best panel in the business. Rick Davis and Jeannie Chanzana will meet you back here tomorrow for the fastest hour in politics. Man. We have a lot to talk about every day, and we'll meet you back here. Subscribe to the podcast if you showed up late. I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg.