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Sound On: Dems Flip Senate Seat, Georgia Runoff

Nov 09, 202234 min
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Joe spoke with Nathan Gonzales, Editor & Publisher of Inside Elections on the midterm election results and the too close to call Senate races, Bloomberg Congress reporter Billy House live from Atlanta on the runoff election for Raphael Warnock and Herschel Walker, Bloomberg Government Congress reporter Emily Wilkins on Kevin McCarthy's plan to become House Speaker if Republicans control the House. Plus our politics panel, Bloomberg Politics Contributors Jeanne Sheehan Zaino & Rick Davis on the latest election results and President Biden's midterm victory lap.

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President Biden lives down from the East Room of the White House. I'm Joe Matthew in Washington. Thanks for being with us on Bloomberg Radio. As we just listened to the day after news conference. As promised by President Biden, he did not make any major announcements. Did did weigh in though, on what was a better night at least than expected for Democrats. Well, we don't know all the results yet. At least I don't know them all yet.

Here's what we do know. While the press and the pundits are predicting a giant red wave, it didn't happen. And I know you were somewhat missed by my my obsessing optimism. But uh, I felt good during the whole process. I thought we were going to do fine. While any seat lost is painful, some good Democrats didn't win the last night. Democrats had a strong night, and we lost fewer seats in the House Representatives than any Democratic president's

first mid term election the last forty years. Part of his opening remarks, he did acknowledge some of the challenges faced as well, but the voters were also clear that they are still frustrated. I get it, I understand it's been a really tough few years in this country for so many people. Bring in our panel, Rick and Genie or with us Rick Davis and Jennie Chanzano Bloomberg Politics contributors as we get Bloomberg sound on off and running a little bit differently this evening. You want to start

with the panel having heard from the president. Now we waited for for a little bit of time he gave us what was that about forty minutes? I guess a number of questions. Maybe he was a little bit more than that. He started about twenty minutes late here as the White House did promise a little encounter with the president. Uh, he said he would take ten questions. I don't know if he actually made good on them. Here must have been at least ten. Genie, How did he do? How

was the posture? The confidence following a night like we know he had, Well, you know, we were at least some of us were expecting, you know, forty eight hours ago maybe that he could potentially be talking about some kind of shellacking. And here the president who got to go out in a mid term in his first term and talk about a pretty good night for his party. So that was a very positive thing, and he went out, he took questions, and he stressed that he is going

to continue to work for the American public. He expressed sensitivity to the fact that people are feeling, as the polls showed us last night, very frustrated with the direction of the country in the economy. And he talked about the fact he's going to continue to try to work across the aisle. As he heads out overseas tomorrow and then comes back, he said he's going to be meeting with people from both parties to try to address the issues addressing the American public. So I think, all in lall,

he did a good job. But let's not forget you know, for most reporters, we don't hear from the president in these venues enough. So it's the first press conference he's had in a long time. January was the last real big one, and he hit the two hour mark. As I'm sure you well remember, having been in this studio for it, Rick, it's been framed by Democrats while the House is up and called as the most successful mid term election cycle for a Democratic president going back a

long time, maybe any president going back along time. Does Joe Biden have something to brag about Uh. Look, I think he actually had a good tone today. He wasn't really bragging about anything. He you know, sort of spelled it out as as it is, which to have that kind of stability and not demagogue. It was refreshing, frankly, Um and look, I mean, you know, verse to remind everybody, George Bush in two thousand and two or two thousand two had gained eight seats. So uh, in twenty years,

it's the best performance of any president president. Were there? Yeah, And uh, but like presidents are presidents, right, I mean, like, okay, so yeah, he's a very successful Democratic president. Can't can't can't help but say, gee, Republicans have been more successful in the last twenty years. But but the bottom line is he seemed very he seemed very uh settled with the idea that he's gonna have a divided government. You know,

he didn't didn't commit to that. Obviously, he doesn't want to throw anybody under the bus right now, and we don't know what control of Congress is looking like. But the fact that he's committed to sitting down with party on the opposite side and and and trying to create a dialogue to see if he can move forward the

second half of his administration is a real positive. Right, we would have never heard this from Trump, right, it would have been we won big, and like it's the greatest victory in the history of the world, and and and like he would have been throwing Democrats under the bus, right and left. So the fact that the Olive branches out is huge. I think that's what Republicans will be looking for, especially those Republicans who actually still want to put in a good day's work in Congress. A great

point that you make. The President says he will sit down with the Republican leadership when he returns from his foreign travel. UH. You mentioned Trump. Let's play that against Trump and in his remarks in a Newsmax interview going into the UH the night last night. It's just an incredible contrast from what we heard from Joe Biden, the posture that he chose to take here and Donald Trump.

Knowing that Trump endorsed UH dozens, if not several hundred candidates affect across the country in this midterm site the results for Republicans, um how much of that will be because of Donald Trump? Well, I think if they win, I should get all the credit, and if they lose, I should not be blamed at all. Okay, but it will probably be just the opposite. When they win. I think they're going to do very well. I'll probably be given very little credit, even though in many cases I

teld people to run. Is he getting enough credit today, Gene, I don't think he's getting much credit. I think he's getting a lot of blame. The great spots for the Republican Party were people who are against Donald Trump or with whom he has had issues, namely Brian Kemp in Georgia and run to Santis in Florida. Potential rivals is certainly run to Santis for four. And I think, you know, as we look at President Biden's press conference that to me was the elephant in the room. The reporters tried

to get him to go there. He sort of shied away from it. But you've got Trump, you know, teasing a possible announcement on Tuesday for twenty four, and the big question is does Joe Biden follow in any you know, does he follow suit at some point? And of course, um you've got the exit polls also showing us that these are two incredibly unpopular leaders of their respective parties, and so that sort of is the elephant in the room. Does Joe Biden run and how does he deal with

the calendar? And he's going to have a lot of questions to answer about that issue. Interesting the way he answered this question. Listen to this Rick he was asked by by Steve Hoffman at Reuter's. But you know you're gonna run again? What's the deal? Here's what he has. I think. My guess is, I hope Joe and I get a little time to actually sneak away for a week around between Christmas and Thanksgiving. And my guess is

would be earlier next year. We make that early next year, I should say, Steve Holland, the great White House correspondent, is that the way you do this? You know? He don't you just say you're running? Ri? No, definitely not um. I think he is. He understands the political process as well as anybody you know. And he's gonna assemble advisors.

He's going to reach out to mayors and governors and members of Congress and ask their opinion and build a little momentum behind it, because right now he doesn't really have any momentum. He had he had obviously a good night. He's probably gonna lose one House of the Congress, and so you know, he's got to redefine himself as create the person he wants to be to run for president.

If he wants to run for president. I mean, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion, but I think the the public would would benefit from that kind of introspection. In other words, it's not just automatic, I'm gonna run

no matter what. I think. He wants the party to ask him to run, right, You know, there needs to be people out on the public square saying, oh, Joe Biden's our best chance of you know, winning in four I would say, on the contrast, you know, Donal Trump's not asking anybody's opinion about whether he should running, right exactly, And and and I think one of the things you're gonna start seeing in the Republican Party is a lot of people scratch their head and publicly saying, now, wait

a minute, he's sitting on a hundred million dollars and we just lost these seats by a couple of thousand VOTs. What the heck is he doing? Uh, Jennie, does the president want to let that trump announcement simmer for a little bit, so Democrats are screaming for him to announce something by the end of the year. Yeah, he wants to let that simmer. He wants to let run to Santis donald Trump battle it out, as Donald Trump has already said that he will he will go straight forwar

round to Santis. So he wants to let that go and he can then has the benefit of deciding when he is going to put himself forward if he does, um, you know. And the reality for Donald Trump, of course, as Republicans look at this is most are many of his candidates in the upper echelons. Many of them lost, you know, Bullduck, Mastriano, Oz Dixon, Cox, Zelden, Michael. It's a big you know, he had a couple of bright spots, maybe j d Vance. You know, we're still waiting on Arizona, Nevada.

But you know, these are big losses for Publicans. So they're really going to have to grapple with Is anybody in the Republican Party in a position to stop him from announcing and sort of taking the party? It seemed to be Ron de santist Rick would no better than I do. But Ron de Santist so far hasn't chosen to do that because he's busy playing god in Florida,

worried about It's a great opportunity to work in. Nathan Gonzalez, a voice we've been looking forward to adding, editor and publisher of Inside Elections, who joins us on this day after Nathan, thank you for being here. We talked in advance of election night here and you know, the narrative this morning is red ripple, no red wave. Kevin McCarthy has declared victory. Nathan, how's this going to end in the House? Well, I don't think the House majority is

a completely done deal. There is actually a path for Democrats to maintain control. It's it's a narrow one. And this is a conversation. I don't think anybody really expected the idea that Democrats could lose the Senate and hold the House is a scenario that no one was talking

about for the last two years. Based on historical trends, based on where President Biden's job approval rating is um right now, it looks like when you break down what see what's been called, and what's yet to be called, it looks like Republicans will gain between four and eleven seats, so they need five. So the lower end of that range is just under what they need. But you know, if you really pin me down, it looks like Republicans will get it by a handful or less of seats.

And that makes it That means that speaker, that speaker McCarthy is not a given that there could be a leadership leadership fight and caused some chaos early within the within the Congress. That's going to be an interesting conversation here. Listen to Kevin McCarthy. It was two o'clock in the morning. I thought we had been I thought we were done with the speeches, and well, Kevin McCarthy is about to speak, and boy, is that we are going to take the

house back. Interesting way to handle this. He pointed to Sean Patrick maloney as well, who in the race was called for his opponent. That was kind of a trophy win for Republicans in the Hudson Valley of New York. They had a couple actually, uh in New York here, Uh that said, are we in for a major leadership battle here? Because the margin won't be much greater. Nathan, Well, you have to McCarthy has to be viewed as a

front runner for speaker, but it's not an undeal. And then you say, well, who who if not him, who who can be acceptable to all elements of the Republican caucus? And Steve Schalez is going you have to, but I would include Patrick mckennry at least the phonic Jim Banks of Indiana. I think you have to include those folks. But the kind of what what McCarthy did last night

was something we called cherry picking. Right. Yes, Republicans won some seats uh last night, but it wasn't as expected in right now, the toss up races which we expected to break for Republicans because of independence and undecided voters prioritizing the economy and not liking Biden, those tossib raises have been breaking disproportionately for Democrats and that has really changed the overall outlook on how many seats Republicans are going to gain, with of course the exception of this

Democrat not only a member of the Democratic House, but the share of the D Triple C, the man tasked with getting Democrats reelected. I don't want to make this about me, Um. I don't like in New York as know that that I want to There's not one seat on that board that I don't I don't want the loss of um and and be And it is that competitive nature that will also, you know, allow me to answer your question honestly and say, I don't like to lose.

But my opponent won this race and he wanted fair and square, and that means something, and so I'm going to step aside and I had a good run. I thought that was interesting, Nathan. He's not the only Democrat we heard that from last night. It so haunded a lot like Congressman Tim Ryan's concession speech in the the

Ohio Senate race. Here. I'm assuming that that there was a kind of a meeting on this there there was an agreement among Democrats that if you lose your race, that you do it properly, that you concede, and you even call it an honor. Did you sense that last night? Yeah. I think there's been a sense even coming into election day about election integrity in the process and this leading

by example and with Maloney. There was a confluence of events where overall Republicans are doing well in New York in part with Congressman Zeldin's closer than expected run for governor. But Maloney also chose to run in this newly drawn district. He only represented of the district, so he was not

a true incumbent. It's some of those advantages that come with and come and see, and then you add in the Republican spending in and that ends up with a high profile loss on an otherwise disappointing night for Republicans. We're going to turn to the Senate in Georgia in just a minute here, Nathan, and we have to wait a month before we know who controls the Senate. Well, you know, right now, it's coming down to Georgia, Arizona,

and Nevada. If if Republicans or if either party wins both Nevada and Arizona before we get to Georgia, then we will know control. But if those break, you know, with one party each winning one of those, then yes, it does come down to Georgia. And you know what, We've been talking about this for months now. We've been through multiple cycles where everyone said, oh, everything was way off, and no, we've been telling you for months that it could come down to a runoff in Georgia. And we

are on the on the precipice of that. Well, I suspect we'll talk again in the next month except for December six. And yeah, that race is herschel Walker Raphael. We're not going to a run off of that is for sure. Nathan Gonzalez, thanks for being with us. Thanks for being patient as we dealt with a little bit of a delay from the White House Today, editor and publisher of Inside Elections, he probably hasn't slept much like

our panel. Can I ask quickly, Rick and Jennie while you're here, Uh, the the idea of Sean Patrick Maloney giving that trophy, that the victory that Kevin McCarthy was so thirsty for. How significant is that loss in the Hudson Valley Genie that that was? That was one we waited hours and hours to hear about. It's significant. I think it's the first time I understanding about forty years

that the head of the party is lost in their seat. Um, as you were just talking about the thing to keep in mind, many Democrats in New York were frustrated with John Patrick Maloney for switching districts and running there the first place. It was not his home district, so he had only about twenty were, you know, thinking of him as re election. He was new to the district and he lost it, but he lost against an onslaught of

Republican money. We're gonna talk more about the battle here for the gavel with Rick and Jeanie and we'll bring in Billy House from Georgia next. I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg. We turned out a Georgia and the headline Warnock Walker had to potentially decisive Senate runoff. Potentially decisive. Indeed, this is the one that could decide at all in the Senate. And doesn't this feel a lot like a couple of are we really doing this again? Waiting around

a month to find out what Georgia does? Senator Warnock, despite all this, says he's feeling good. We we always knew that this race would be close, and so that's where we are. So y'all just hang in there. I'm feeling good. Okay, they love that, and I'll tell you I'll feeling good. Where's Ricky? Bobby at Lee? House picked the right race. Billy, you're gonna be moving into like a waffle house or something for the next month. Are you staying down there for this it's the race of

the cycle. As it turns out, Warnock Walker, how does this work? Nobody got fifty and so we've got the runoff, right, that's right, it's uh. By the way, I did he get waffle house this morning? Going to uh? But yes, it's like groundhog day. Uh. In two thousand twenty one, Raphael Warnock one in a run off, and here we are again now face him facing herschel Walker. So uh.

Rick Davis, who's with us as as usual on the broadcast tonight, has been making the point that you take Brian Kemp away, right, You've got that sort of there's no there are no coat tails for herschel Walker. He's got to do this on his own. And Raphael Warnock has got a lot of a lot of OPO to dump on him. We've already got two allegations that he paid for abortions for former girlfriends, even though he is in favor of an abortion ban. This is gonna be

APO central for the next month. Right. Oh, that's absolutely correct. But you mentioned the governor Brian Kemp who one uh and outperformed obviously Herschel Warnock on in last night. He across the board Herschel Walker underperformed other Republican candidates in Georgia's statewide But the big pressure probably will be on the governor to you have come out and and finally show a little love for Herschel Walker that he did

not do so do so in the general election. And uh, who knows what the governor will do, but there's talk that he is going to open up a little bit and maybe, especially if the Senate is and at at stake, come out and help him on the trail a little bit more. It's an interesting concept because this is a Trump pick, right, Bryant Kemp, Well, he'd love a Republican I'm assuming to represent the state. Doesn't probably feel much

of a need to help Donald Trump. No, he's probably now he's actually feeling like he doesn't even at all now. But but Walker might And and that's the other big kind of unstated question is will Trump stay away? And and if he doesn't, does that hurt Walker? Well, he certainly learned a lesson, uh in with that, I guess it was technically twenty one uh, with the Georgia runoff that sent John ass Off and then of course Herschel Raphael Warnock to Washington here. Uh So, look, I understand

we've got a month. How do you fill that time for these two campaigns? Billy? Uh, given what's happening in the Senate and if this truly is the determinative race for control, Uh, you feel you filled this month with uh, incredible amounts of money once again pouring into a single

state from all over the country. Uh. Incredible number of events with people from outside the state, celebrities coming in and in appearing at rallies for both candidates, and in in in the television blitz and other media blitz on advertising, unlike you've probably seen very many other places that happened in one It was incredible and it looks like it's going to happen again. Billy. Thanks for great reporting this week. I can't wait to have you back in Washington. Let's

talk to you more about it in person. Billy House live in Georgia Forests. On the fastest hour in politics. Everyone here is, you know, punch drunk or something like that. We've all basically been awake for forty eight hours. And I mentioned you Rix will bring you back in here. The idea of this, uh, this runoff taking place with just one race, just the two candidates on the ballot. What does that mean for herschel Walker? Is that a

much tougher climate? And he was already in well, you know, he shared the stage with an entire country full of interesting races, right, and now the entire country is going to share themselves with herschel Walker. And so talk about a spotlight, right, I mean, like you never have an opportunity like this, and and a real question is a real, real spotlight on herschel Walker. How's he going to perform

on that? Right? I mean, he he did better than most people thought he was gonna do through this election, and he made it a real go, right. I mean, this is a really tight election, so you have to

give him some credit. But like this is it, Right, We're gonna spend a month doing nothing but seeing and hearing everything that man says, what he does, and how he lived his life and what his reactions, and by the way, a lot more than the incumbent, uh Raphael Warnock, because like we already know him, right, he's been vetted, he's been in the in Senate for a couple of years and and he's just not as interesting a character as herschel Walker and so you know, waking up every

morning to herschel Walker Cereal is going to be really interesting. My god, I presume it involves badges. I don't know, maybe some NASCAR if you could get you know, a NASCAR endorsement and really get this Ricky Bobby thing together, Genie, it might go somewhere. That's right, Maybe go meet Billy House at that waffle Head. Right. The fact of the matter is the he had Tom Cotton there, he had

Lindsey Graham there. Everybody showed up form Rick Scott and he doesn't look like a candidate who is mired in scandal if you look at these numbers. No, he doesn't. And you know, the challenge I think from the Democratic perspective is, you know, there is always a concern that if Democrats had a better than expected night, do voters want to get out again? Whereas Republicans may feel, hey, we didn't perform the way we wanted to, were a little bit in the whole. Potentially are we more motivated

to get out there? So if this is really a push for turnout, both sides are going to have to bring out you know, they're big weapons, and I think in Georgia. On the Democratic side, that's going to be Barack Obama. And let's not forget there was a libertarian candidate in there who got about one votes, Chase Oliver. So the question is where did those votes go? And

that is an open question. Coming up, we'll talk more about some of the other races that have yet to be called, and by that I mean Arizona and Boy, I'll tell you what Carrie Link is laying it down. We'll let you know what she said last evening. She said she spoke with God out the outcome of her race. And we'll get into the leadership challenge in the House. Is this Kevin McCarthy's gavel or not? Emily Wilkins is on the way. This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg

who sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. As you've been hearing over the course of the hour, nothing has been called, not the Senate or the House. So why is Kevin McCarthy declaring victory the night before? He was out there at two o'clock in the morning Eastern time. It is clear that we are gonna take the house back in New York. We defeated the Democrat campaign chairman, Sean Patrick Sean Patrick Maloney, which will be the first time in over forty years a deep triple C chair

lost his reelection. And that part is true. The question is, well, who else is gonna lose here and what is the actual balance going to be in the House with still a path at this point for Democrats to keep the House. It's unlikely, but it's possible. And now this is bringing in the whole idea of a challenge to Kevin McCarthy's potential leadership here because as they say, Emily Wilkins, they smell blood in the water. Emily, is great to see you back from Bloomberg. Government has also been up for

two days straight or something like that. You cover the leadership, this is your specialty. Kevin McCarthy thought this would be a layup. He even decided to declare victory or claim victory prematurely. Is he going to be the person holding the gavel if Republicans take the House or is Steve Scalise making phone calls right now among others. Well, at this point we know that Steve Scalise has already sent out a message to all of his colleagues saying, hey,

I'm going to run for that number two spot. So he clearly doesn't think that he has what he needs right now to put out a viable challenge to McCarthy. And from the folks who I've talked with today, there are a lot who say, you know, McCarthy has led us through to this point, we're not quite sure who another challenger will be. Doesn't mean that one's not going to emerge, but at this point, at the end of today, it does seem like there's a path forward to Kevin

McCarthy still holding that gavel. The question becomes what is he going to have to sacrifice to get it? Because there are rules that govern how the legislative process works, how power works. Those are all going to be decided in the next couple of weeks, and the far right House Freedom Caucus has already come up with their demands. They want more power, they want McCarthy to give it

to them. And if there's not some sort of give and take here that might thing make things really really complicated for any McCarthy speakership, then what what kind of influence would he have if he essentially trades places with Nancy Pelosi gets a majority of say five seats, still has a Democratic president. The other round of Pennsylvania Avenue doesn't really matter what happens in the Senate. In that world,

he's not getting a lot done right, a lot of messaging. Well, when you ask Republicans what they wanted to do with control of the House, the thing that they always pivoted to his investigations. And he can do as many investigators. He can do as many investigations as he wants with two eighteen members, as long as he has control of the chairs. They can go after Hunter Biden. They can go after immigration, they can go after the origins of COVID nineteen. There's such a laundry list there, but they

can do it. That can be a thing that they do. The question, of course, becomes those narrow margins. What happens when you hit that must pass legislation, What happens when you hit the debt sailing, what happens when you need to pass government spending bills? Those things. You have a caucus that you can't necessarily keep together on issues like

I mean, you have the House Freedom Caucus. They they are inviting new potential members to an orientation and they have all these little modules for them to attend, and one of them is a big policy upcoming issues and they actually say, like, this is how we're going to teach you how you can use these debates to leverage to get conservative priorities passed. And so they they're they're gearing up for a fight. Here are you invited to the orientation? I mean, I'm always welcome to stand outside

of whatever room. That's a little bit different. Um, when do we know? When do we find out the house? I mean I realized we have a number of races that have yet to be called. When does Kevin McCarthy get to say that with authority? So my crystal ball is currently broken in the shop and there since about um, I mean McCarthy was saying at two am that, like when we all woke up in the morning, that it

would be called. And if you have Kevin McCarthy making claims like that which you know hours later reproved untrue, I mean, California is going to take a while. We knew that Oregon is going to take a while. Oregon's fifth that's one that Republicans think that they are going to be able to pick up Washington, Alaska. I mean, these are all ones that are going to take a while. I mean certainly, like I feel like I hope, and you hope, and everyone who's trying to figure this out

in DC hopes that it's sooner rather than later. But it could have really take sometimes more days at least maybe by this weekend we have a sense maybe maybe by I mean like election was called on on a Saturday, just crashing into everyone's weekend like that. So so you're not making you're not you're not, you're penciling in plans for this weekend. Emily, thank you. It's great to see you. Happy election day day after even though election days technical

election week, absolutely happy election week. As we reassemble the panel, I want to hear from Rick and Genie on this, uh the idea of a speaker McCarthy, what a Republicans saying here, Rick, because there's a lot of different reporting about who might be, uh, the other potential speaker in waiting to Steve scalise make that run. Yeah, I think if there is a run, it's probably Steve Scalise. Um. Everybody else sort of lowers their threshold of desirability, you know,

quantity significantly past Steve Scalise. The other thing that might happen, and we've seen this happen before, is McCarthy could run and potentially even get elected, but not get a mandate from his own caucus and quit, right. I mean, like that's how he got elected speaker. They went through like three different or not speaker, but majority. They went through like three different guys before they got damn so um. These elections are messy affairs and uh, and so they'll

be campaigns waged to beat him up a bit. Whether or not that means uh Schoez can take advantage of it or not is yet to be seen. But I think that it's worth watching this space because I don't think there's anything decided at this stage. Speaking of races, not calls. We have to go to Arizona. Uh, we're waiting for the Senate. We're waiting for the governor's race to be called as well, and carry like the Republican of course, who was behind the last time I saw

the numbers, at least behind Katie Hobbs doesn't care. You know, I did a lot of praying to God. I've been praying to God every day all day and I said to him, you make this victory come whatever way you want. If it comes decisive on election day, then bring it to us that way. If we have to fight through the bs and the garbage, then we will fight through the b s and the garbage. But how do you get fair and free elections? You have to fight and

win to make them fair and free. And we needed another stark reminder that we have incompetent people running the show in Arizona. Okay, So there, now we're getting to the heart of the matter here. We're gonna be bogged down no matter how this ends in lawsuits. That's right. I'm just looking now, sixty of the vote and it's been like sixty six sixty seven all day, and they are it looks like to me within you know, nine oh six to nine ten, Katie has narrowly, narrowly has it.

And as Rick has told us many times, they're gonna have a trench of votes out. I think at like seven pm, one one dump and Carrie Lake could definitely go for But this thing is going to go on for several days and then of course you have you know, you know, a contest that go on and certifications and all those kinds of things. But she's gonna fight because

God told her too, and she's gonna fight to win. Joe, she says, the tabulators or whatever something we're working that we we already that's been debunked essentially, Rick, But this is gonna be a fraud case no matter what, right, well unless she wins, right and I don't know, my God, Yeah, but she won't investigate it. Yeah. Look, I mean, they've got almost a half a million votes still left to be counted in a bunch of them are gonna come

out tonight. And what's really hilarious is these are drop boxes, the same drop boxes that they were trying to keep people from running ballots in, and so she could wind up being the recipient, if not maybe even the loser because of people getting driven away from these drop boxes. So it's, uh, it's it's just a quirk in the system.

We heard so much about drop boxes and and even the Justice Department getting involved, and now it's all coming down to those ballots that were stuffed in the drop box. You mentioned the come to Jesus yes today that we're going to have over all of this. When does the Republican Party have a come to Jesus with the Lakes and Trumps who are telling voters not to take advantage of this rick. Well, you know, part of it's gonna

start at the top. I mean Ron McDaniels had a the chairman of the Republican Party, had a conference call with their members today all around the country and said, oh, this is a great outcome. And I the ones I heard from were scratching head, going what planet does that woman live on? So, I mean, I think it's again. I mean, the party is very hierarchical. They're gonna wanna get a signal from the top, and that wasn't a

signal they thought they were gonna get. So the party's in a bit of a turmoil right now, I would say, and leadership is gonna matter. And frankly, the only person who came out of this, you know, smelling like a rose, was Governor to Santos, who had the best time and and you unbelievable returns in Florida and turning that state red. So let's get to that matter. Then let's let me ask you about Donald Trump. He's got this thing set

for next week November Mara Lago. But again, as I mentioned, blood in the water, Genie, does that clear the field or does it? Ted cruise or run the Santas say, you know what, No, I'm gonna I'm gonna run against you. I think we're going to see a battle here. Um. You know, maybe would not so much had the night gone differently for Donald Trump. But as Rick was just saying, what did we see last night, we did see a wave. That wave was run to Santis in Florida. He won

Miami Day. It's been you know what twenty years since Republicans have taken that. He took the Hispanic vote down there. That's a huge accomplishment for the Republicans down there. That is a red state required so you can win the electoral College or almost required. And now you've got, you know, Donald Trump with all of these losers that he supported and so that you know, but but still remains the head of the party and really popular with the base.

So there's gonna be a fight, and you know, then you add in other people like Greg Abbott. He had a pretty good night. Brian Kemp had back off Rick. If Donald Trump announces next week or is this Trump? This the future of the Republican Party of the governors. So we're gonna get together and decide what they're gonna do about Donald Trump and watch DeSantis in the meantime, right, amazing, You guys gonna get some rest. Say yes, Rick and

Jeannie the best panel in the business. Thanks again. We'll do it again tomorrow in the fastest hour in politics. Maybe some races will be called. This is Bloomberg.

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