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Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Welcome to Primary Day and the fastest hour in politics, as we explore the issues today driving voters to the polls, from inflation, two jobs, and an important conversation ahead with the man who helped orchestrate Barack Obama's re election, Jim Messina, with us today, the CEO of the Messina Group, and with

decision day in Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, and Yes, Texas. Bloomberg Elections expert Gregorow is going to join us later on several high profile Trump endorsements on the line Tonight, we have analysis from the sound On panel with Bloomberg Politics contributors Geenie Chanzano and Rick Davis with us for the hour. Welcome to another primary day. The rallies are over, the closing arguments have been made. Voters right now are deciding on issues. It's a magic moment for any campaign operative

and a very stressful one depending on the day. As Jim Messina would tell you, the former campaign manager for President Obama's re election, former deputy chief of staff in the White House, now CEO of the Messina Group, joins us with his view on the issues and the campaigns that are driving this cycle. Several states in play today, and Jim, thank you for being part of this. You were known as the fixer in the Obama White House.

Famously a white House that included a man named Joe Biden, with inflation and surging, with the pandemic still underway, a domestic agenda that has been severely challenged, Joe Biden's approval ratings depending on where you look, low forties, maybe on a bad day, upper thirties. Democrats, Jim, as you know, are bracing for rough mid terms. How would you tell Joe Biden to fix it. Well, a couple of things.

The party in power loses an average of three and a half Senate seats from twenty six House seats in the last fifty years, so the Democrats kind of come to this, uh, you know, with some real challenges. And then, as you say, Joe, inflation is now the number one political issue. And so what the President needs to do is stay very focused on making sure voters understand he gets the inflation issue, he cares about it, he's working

on it, and there's showing progress. And then he needs to draw a very sharp contrast between his party and the Republicans in these mid term elections, because if he doesn't, the mid term elections will be a referendum on the incumbent and usually income at rather than to lose those Well, this, you know, follows months in which the administration called inflation transitory. The President now and as advisors are pointing to the war in Ukraine and COVID as the drivers and who

could have expected the war to breakout? Of course, but Jim, people know, but in inflation has been a problem since last year. We were talking about this way before Ukraine. The war made things worse does the administration need to acknowledge that? Look, I think what's clear is that, you know, I have twelve presidents and prime ministers around the world is my clients, and everyone is dealing with this issue.

It's not just the United States because of you know, action or inaction of the Fed or the President or anything. What is true is what voters want is the president to give them some very clear objectives about what he's going to do and how he's going to take these steps. And so that's what voters want. I think they want less about the blame game and more to say, hey,

what are we doing to make people's lives better? I get that part, but when we start hearing about the putin price hike, you know, in in terms like this, it doesn't seem to acknowledge the whole story, and it can I'm across as disingenuous. No, well, look that is a piece of it, right. It's clearly the war in Ukraine made things different, more difficult to supply. Chain is a very big issue out there, and again it's not just the United States. Everyone is having these problems around

the world and trying to blame. You know, one action by the president is really. The White House has adopted the term ultra maga to describe, I guess the right wing of the Republican Party. I'm not sure if you can really even draw the lines on this the Trump wing. Uh, but also the economic proposals put forward by Senator Rick Scott of Florida. He chairs the National Republican Senatorial Committee, which might be part of the reason they're The administration though,

decided to make him the foil. He spoke last weekend Jim at the Lincoln Reagan Dinner in Newport, New Hampshire. Love for you to respond to what he said. Here he is. Romando is running commerce. She came antified about two weeks ago. I said, what are you doing for inflation? She said, it's not my fault, it's all the Federal Reserve, Sectuary Transportation. Bootage came and testified. He said, what are

you doing about the supply chain? I said, you've only been out to the Port and California one time since you've been in office. And by the way, Bootage as Ormando. The last time they testified inflation was one point four percent. I think it was, but they took no responsibility. So he's turning this into a competency issue, Jim, much like Republicans are with the baby formula shortage. As a campaigner, how do you answer that, knowing the amount of time

you have between now and November. I think you don't. I think what you do is say, here's what we're doing to make things better. I think you don't get a tip for tat. I think you don't want to be on the defensive as a campaigner. What you want to do is move an offensive argument. When I run presidential campaigns, I always talk about you have to win the economic argument, and the winner of that argument wins

the election. And so I think that's what I would stay very focused on if I were the What are your thoughts on Joe Biden, having been as close to him as you were in the Obama administration to see him at the helm now as a much older man and one who's dealing with a very different political climate. Yeah, Look, you know, at some point, you know it's the old

Chinese curse. May you live in interesting times when the challenges in front of him, the challenges, so you know, leaders around the world are really really difficult right now, and you know you combining COVID a war, inflation. These

are really big challenges. And the thing that I think is good is you've got a pretty steady guy who understands the challenges, has been through every single crisis, um, and it's gonna not panic and not do dumb things and attempt to just get the policy right, because that's what presidents have to do. You have to get the policy right. Spending time with Jim Messina uh here on Bloomberg sound On, I mentioned the primaries Jim big Ones today,

especially in Georgia. I'm sure you're watching along with everyone where we've seen a split between in the Republican Party between Trump Nation or I don't know, Ultra Maga and establishment Republicans, certainly in the gubernatorial primary, uh where Mike Pence actually campaigned in person for the incumbent governor, Brian Kemp. Early voting turnout has tripled since eighteen and thanks to your governor, it is easier to vote and harder to

cheat than ever before in Georgia history. And that's not that's the opposite of what Donald Trump is saying, as we heard last evening in a Teletown hall for his candidate. Of course, the former Senator for it's something that we have to win, we want to win, and we have a governor that's done the worst job of any governor in probably decades on election integrity. Getting to this story

from the other side, Jim, how did Democrats exploit the fissure? Well, first of all, Georgia is now the most competitive state in America. There's more spending in Georgia Senate race and the governor's race and any other state. Georgia is now the the kind of center of American politics. And you know, it's amazing to see Pence campaign against Trump's candidate. I guess he's one thing you can say about Pences. He's stabbing Trump in the front, not the back. Um. But

it's something we have just never seen. Democrats are the beneficiaries of this. They love this brutal, ugly primary because they have a very strong nominee in Stacy Abrahams and she's waiting for the winner here. And you know what we saw in the in the runoff elections in December

of last year when Democrats won two cents. These people didn't think that they would is there was depressed turnout by Republicans because of some of the Trump problems, and so the question for Democrats is going to be coming out of tonight, how many Republicans actually voted here and are the people who lose are they going to be pissed and not stay with the Republican nominee in the in the general election? Is that something that Democrats should

hope for. Absolutely? And it's difficult of a year. Um, you know, a turnout of one or two points less by the Republicans could give the Democrats the Senate seat and the governorship. Jim has seen a great opportunity to spend some time with you on a primary day. Thanks for being with the CEO of the Messinic Group with us on the fastest hour in politics. I'm Joe, Matthew

and Washington. Welcome to Sound On. It is the Tuesday edition, and we're dealing with some terrible breaking news that I want to mention and something that we're going to be touching on with our panel in just a moment. But there's been a terrible mass shooting today. It happened in

an elementary school in a rural community in Texas. This is right outside San Antonio, remembering as well, by the way, they're voting there today, that is that's uh, that's uh not far from the Quare district here, which goes from San Antonio down to the Rio Grand Governor Greg Abbots is fourteen students and a teacher were killed gunmen fatally shot by police. This is some thing that is unfolding right now, and I want to urge you to remember

we've we've been through stories like these before. Just a grain assault in the opening moments here as we get actual numbers, because sometimes these things can change. Governor Abbott did identify the shooter as an eighteen year old student. Uh at the high school, of all the high school is where this happened. If we can bring in the panel quickly on this, it's something that I'd like to be able to hear from Rick and Genie about Bloomberg

Politics contributors Rick Davis Jeannie Chanzano. Rick, I didn't plan to be talking about this. You didn't either. But this is a story, obviously that brings up a lot of issues here when we think about our security, the availability of guns. A lot of campaign issues are driven by these shootings. They just they don't always seem to drive people to conclusions at the polls. Is this the type

of thing that that informs someone's decisions at the polls. Well, Joe um our show is interrupted it on a more and more frequent basis, it seems by these kinds of shootings that just rock the communities. And our our prayers go out to the people of Vivaldi. I know this is an incredible shock to them and and frankly should be a shock to every person in the world to

have this kind of heinous crime occur. And and it reminds us that there are issues that revolve around um guns and violence in our communities, crime that will be

a major factor in this year's election. And we talk a lot about inflation, we talk a lot about the economy, even the war in Ukraine, but but more and more people are starting to talk about this kind of needless violence, access to weapons, and especially by young people like this perpetrator who reports are was eighteen years old and uh and and in the crime that has spun up, you know, in a lot of our major cities and here in a very thought rural area. Rick and Genie back with

more from our panel. This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. You sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio as we changed course with breaking news. Thanks for joining us. A terrible story that is unfolding from Texas. As you read on the terminal, fourteen kids, one teacher killed in mass Texas school shooting. We heard a short time ago from Governor Greg Abbott. There are families who are in mourning right now, and instead of Texas is in mourning

with them. I want to warn you that this is still in the early going here, but the governor does say that the shooter kill fourteen students and one teacher using a handgun. An eighteen year old shooter Valdi High School shot and killed by officers. Two officers were hit, according to the governor, not hurt seriously. And as we were just discussing with Rick Davis, Jennie Schanzana was with

us as well our panel. There are a lot of different ways to get to this, but a lot of it feeds, of course, the controversy around crime here in this country. If you flip the coin on that, it also feeds the debate around access to guns. Genie, I'd like to get your take. We had a moment with Rick, but I didn't get to hear from you on this. You know, we're supposed to be talking about primary day here, and these are big issues that will last through this

cycle and likely straight through that's right. I mean, it's incomprehensible, and I think the government that the governor put it right. Horrific and incomprehensible. Fourteen elementary school kids, those are babies and their parents are supposed to be uniting with them after school. Reportedly Thursday was their last day of this school year, and they will never go home. It is reminds all of us of Sandy Hook. But this is These are not isolated incidents, obviously in the United States,

and that's the problem. Gun violence in the US has surged beginning in This is a continuation of what was a horrific weekend, the shootings and Buffalo. But when you see this impacting kids and babies, people in school who are supposed to be learning, it speaks to everything from guns to violence to mental health. A young man apparently eighteen year old dead now who did this? Um So you know, by every stretch this is something that is going to play into these primaries, into these elections, but

it has going back decades in the United States. We've made very few strides at the national level. Great strides at the state and local level, but at the national level, very few strides. When it comes to either gun control or mental health. It has to be addressed, and it hasn't yet been, and that is shameful for all of us. We're hearing from the White House now. The President has been briefed on this as you would suspects. Rick Uh Karine.

Jean Pierre, the Press Secretary, says his prayers are with the families impacted by this awful event, and he will speak this evening when he arrives back at the White House. Is that the right move? Sure? This will be something that I think every American wants to um talk about, to grieve for the people uh in you double you Uvaldi Texas, and and and and I think it's the job of the President to try and put some kind

of focus on this um UM. I think having Joe Biden UH and his ability to UH empathize with the American public around this, this troubling event, UM is actually a really good use of this president's time and attention right now. There are so many other crisises that he has had to deal with but none probably more important than the health and safety of our own people, you know, in the country here and and there are so many things to unpack from this, so many issues that have

gone along too long, uh, that haven't been addressed. And I think his tone and tenor tonight would be a good time to start that discussion and and plan to have it throughout the course of of the balance of this year at least, because um, we have to find solutions of this that that people can sign onto, regardless of their ideology or their geography. What are those solutions, Genie? I mean, are we going to start talking solutions tonight or is it too early for that for this president?

You know, it's never too early to start talking solutions because this is not again an isolated incident. This change of politics could backfire. It can backfire. But you know what that should be nobody's concern, and particularly this president's. We have babies in the United States being killed on a daily basis. We have the largest number of mass shootings that we've had, and this is going on and on. It has to be address. The problem is how is

it going to be addressed? Can you move anything like this through the US Congress today, and sadly the answer is no. I mean I sat on television after Sandy Hook and said, it is incomprehensible that we will not see federal action after you see twenty six babies murdered in their school, and yet we saw no federal action, much to the dismay of there then President Obama and

much of the rest of Congress. But that is the reality of a Senate in which you have a filibuster that was used to stop action, which, by the way, large majorities of Americans support common sense gun control. It is not a hard thing to pull on or find that it's different about this time though. What's different Rick from Newtown? Uh, the numbers were even more horrid the stories, uh were mainstream people promise change and we're still talking

about it. Yeah, I think it's it's time. First of all, I think that we should have a higher expectation by Congress than thinking that this has anything to do you know, with with um you know, getting fift more than fifty one votes, we should have a hundred votes in the United States Senate for change. Right, people have to understand that continuing ignorance of this issue, ignoring what is happening in our own country, with violence UH significantly increasing over

the last few years. Needs a direct and and and massive attack, massive approach to fixing this problem. It's not just hardware, it's also mental illness, and I think all those things need to be taken into consider. Another redefining

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hands of an eighteen year old. We're gonna have the latest for you. This took place just outside of San Antonio, and of course Texas is voting today on this primary day with runoffs that will be pivotal in some cases. Here was an incumbency on the line not far from where this happened. We'll have a conversation next with Elections reporter Greg Duro. We're all also going to reassemble the panel. Rick and Jenier with us to help make sense of this as the news comes in. We're learning more as

we go through the hour. We got the latest information from the governor Texas. Governor Greg Abbott want you to hear this in his words, Uh, an eighteen year old mal who resided in Uvaldy is believed that he abandoned his vehicle and entered into the rob Elementary School in New Valley with with a handgun, and he may also had a rifle, but that is not yet confirmed. According to my most recent report, UH, he shot and killed horrifically,

incomprehensibly UH fourteen students UH and killed a teacher. UH. Mr Romos the shooter UH he is he Uh he himself is deceased. UH and is believed that responding officers killed him. It appears that two responding officers were struck

by rounds but have no serious injuries. UH. The Uvality Consolidity Independent School District Police Department is the investigating agency and we will provide them and the City of u Vality substantial investigative and patrol assistance when the process of obtaining detail to background information on the subject, and of course we'll bring to you more as soon as we do. That's Texas Governor Greg Abbott speaking just moments ago with reporters about this, giving us the latest news. And it's

terrible if you're just joining us. Another terrible school shooting, this time in elementary school in Texas, Greg Abbott. By the way, the governor is currently scheduled to speak at an n r A conference this week in Houston, Texas, at which Donald Trump will be the headline speaker. And of course, look, that's a point of pride for Texas Republicans. Brian Kemp. If we can move to Georgia here for

a second. Also, one of the biggest endorsements that he was promoting for himself was that of the n r A. I mentioned this because of course he's in his primary today and in Georgia they're voting in both states. Brian camp talked about it just a couple of days ago here in his effort to keep the job, which it appears he will do with a commanding lead over former

Senator David Purdue. Here he is as George's governor. I've been grateful for their support and partnership, and as a gun owner in life long member, I'm proud to receive their endorsement as we continue to fight every day for the constitutional right of all of Jordan's let's bringing Greg Darrow.

He's been covering the campaign trail UH with abandoned this primary season and if you want to know what's happening today in a series of states, it's not just the three primaries got runoffs in Texas always breaking it down by congressional district with great context. Bloomberg Elections reporter Greg Jarrow, Thanks for being here. Greg. We didn't think we'd be talking about this, but it is important to note that

this is a major issue here. There are a couple of them tied into this in the midterm election cycle. Crime as a potential liability for Democrats, but also access to guns. There's nothing more effective than wrapping yourself in an n R A indorsement as a Republican candidate. But where does that lead the greater conversation about public safety?

That's a good question. Can and get another terrible tragedy and other mass shooting and the fact that it was at an elementary school just makes it sadly reminiscent of Newtown. It seems like it just seems like every time this happens, every time we have a mass shooting, all two common in our country that you know, it does reignite conversation about access to guns and who should have them, but ultimately,

you know, nothing really happens in legislatures. So I'm I'm sure we'll go through this cycle again where it will be um, you know, I think recovering from the tragedy. Um. But I'm just not sure that it's going to lead to any real policy changes. Well, and why would you It's never happened if Newtown wouldn't do it. These numbers are not as great, and it's a very different political

climate now. I wonder, though, is you consider the way the debate has changed, the conversation has changed on the campaign trail within the cycle here Greg we added Roe v. Wade a couple of weeks go. We're bringing public safety back again here in a big way. We have the shootings in New York. Now this, uh, you can't predict. It's just a reminder that you cannot predict what is going to decide elections. This could balloon into something much

bigger between now and November. Yes, I think that's right. I mean, typically we've got you know, three or four major issues that tend to decide elections of the economy and jobs. Inflation is really spiked up, um. But you know, public safety I think is certainly um an issue that has gotten a lot more attention. We are about mass shootings, but also attacks on public transit areas like New York

City and other another jurisdiction. So I think this will be certainly a recurring issue and one that will may get more attention than otherwise would another election years. This took place in Valdi taxes, if I'm saying it right Valdi, I think is what I want to say. That congressional district is adjacent, I believe, to the one where Henry Quare is fighting for his life, going from that kind of San Antonio area down to the border. Can can

we assume that there was voting happening in this area? Right? Yeah? So you've all day is about eighty miles west of San Antonio, which is a major population center for the district where Congressman Henry Choire is in a tough runoff. Election against Jessica Cisneros. Most of the vote in Texas has cast earlier absentee, but there's still you know a number of people in that district runs from San Antonio, sub little radio that are certainly still voting. Voting goes

on until eight o'clock Washington time, and so um. Certainly, once news is filtering out, it's going to be weighing on the minds of people as they go to the polls. This historically, Greg, before you leave us, do issues like gun control? Does the issue of gun control change minds or galvanize existing opinions When we have a story like this,

I think it's more of the ladder. I mean, there are you look at public opinion polls and you know, you see an overwhelming majority of people who support background checks for for guns. But it's not a singular voting issue, at least not for people on the majority side. But it tends to be um an issue that the more single issue voters are those who probably more on the n r A side than on those who support stronger restrictions on gun ownership. Thanks for being with us as always,

Greg Dree, Elections reporter with Bloomberg Governments. This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. You sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. The Fastest Hour in Politics takes a bit of a turn here with the horrible news. Charlie was just talking about as we try to understand some of the issues that could come from this, particularly in

a midterm election season. I just saw a tweet from Representative Henry Quare, who, as we discussed a few moments ago with Greg Darrow, is up for very important primary today. Is incumbent see is on the line. This is a neighboring congressional districts that stretches from San Antonio to the Rio Grand Henry Quay are the last, the last pro life Democrat in the U. S. House. He tweets, I am heartbroken over the mass shooting at rob Elementary School.

Fifteen families, the South Texas community, and the entire nation are in mourning. Let us pray for peace, Let us come together, he writes, for our neighbors that need support, and let us remember the bright lives we lost today. He's up against a more progressive Democrat named Jessica says Narros, who happens to be celebrating a twenty nine birthday on

this primary day. As we reassemble the panel. Rick and Jeanie have been with us from the beginning here as we first learned about this UH at the beginning of the program Bloomberg Politics contributors. When you hear a statement like that Rick on a on a primary day, is it too much to connect the dots between a story like this? Do Does this motivate people to vote, not one way or the other, but to just have a

say in the process today? Yeah, sure. I think these are the kinds of issues that galvanize the public around being more active in politics. They want to they want to have an impact in their community. They want to see change, UH and many times it's because they don't see the change coming from their elected officials, and so they do become more active. Today is actually certainly a good day in regards to what we're seeing as far

as public participation in elections. Massive increases in voting in in Georgia, even after arguments were made on the Democratic side that the new laws would UH stifle voting. New early voting laws that that caused such concern two years ago are are producing the greatest um off your election turn out that they've ever seen. So with regard to the shooting though, Rick and And as a Republican specifically,

you know the talking points here. Republicans say Democrats relied on crime, Democrats say Republicans are irresponsible when it comes to guns. How do you win that argument? It's it's a game of tic tac toe have as we've proven. Yeah, it's it's part of the polarization that we have, not just with people's ideology but also UM on on issues like this, where if that's the only way you frame the debate, then you're never going to find a solution

to that debate. And UH, twenty years ago, UH, this summer, I produced a television commercial that John McCain started in that we aired in movie theaters all around the country that encouraged parents to lock away their guns now that their children were going to be home for this for school after school, so that we could create more gun safety, something simple that nobody could argue with. Uh. And it was the first time a advocacy UM commercial was shown

in movie theaters. Now that's pretty much all you see. But at the end of the day, what we found places where we could get people of the people agree that, of course that's an important thing to have a gun lock on your gun at home if your kids are going to be home for summer. Is that a commercial Republican could make today, Jeanie, It is, and they should be making it. You know. Unfortunately, what we're looking at today is you know, Rick's talking about twenty years ago,

but let's just look at the numbers. Since two thousand, gun production in the United States has tripled. This includes huge, huge numbers of these ghost guns, these privately manufactured guns. And the report just out the other day by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms showed that rise to eleven point three million in three point nine million. So we've had both a rise in horrific math shootings and unfortunately, you've all day is going to be added to that

horrible list Columbine, Newtown, Buffalo. It just keeps adding up. And yet at the same time you've seen this rise in manufacturing, this rise and purchase and there is no effort at the federal level to address this. And Rick's talking about a common sense approach. There's a many ideas out there, and yet they cannot push it through a U. S. Senate at this point that has a filibuster, and that's

the reality of the situation. So all of the action that's happened, and action has happened, has been at the state and local level, at the hands of organizations and people who have gotten animated on this issue. But it's not enough because guns go over state lines. This is starting to come through Washington now. People are are learning about this, and it's actually Senator Chris Murphy, Democrat from Connecticut, speaking about it emotionally on the Senate floor. Listen to

him for a moment. What are we doing? Why do you spend all this time running for the United State Senate? Why do you go through all the hassle of getting this job, of putting yourself in a position of authority. If your answer is that as this slaughter increases, as our kids run for their lives, we do nothing. What are we doing? Why are you here? These are questions Rick that probably deserve answers. Uh, but I'm not sure we're going to get any You understand, of course, why

this country is so jated. You have never seen progress on this Yeah, and uh, and and and it's partially because of the rhetoric that are our lawmakers take where they they insulate themselves by creating an action forcing event that nothing can happen, and it would actually be a

good signal, you know. And this is this is actually something I think American public would expect and and it doesn't cost anybody anything for the congressional leadership, both Republican and Democrat UH to get together and have a summit on this to find out ways that we can bridge some of these gaps. No guarantees that there's any outcome. In fact, arguably, um, maybe there won't be. But but

it's a shared problem, right. It's one of those things that that both Republicans and Democrats in powerful positions, as as Senator Murphy says, who's got a sworn obligation to protect the country, UH, could get together and have a conversation about this where where at least they're talking about it. I mean, like part of this is that this is not even a dialogue anymore. Nobody wants to talk about it because they feel like some demagogue is going to

argue with them. Uh. It will be interesting to see how some of the other leaders and and you know, we talked about Donald Trump all the time, someone who has used the gun issue as a way to divide the public, both along economic lines and geographic lines. Um, you know what he says today, because it's it's it's up to people who are seen as leaders to start answering some of these questions, which is, what are we

going to do about this? Sometimes you don't get a statement, which is always interesting with the decisions coming out of the Trump camp here. But Jennie, this is why the vitriol is such a problem. Right, Look, if you have no relationships with people across the aisle, whether you're the Biden administration or the Republican leadership on Capitol Hill, how

are you going to get together on this? If you can't figure out baby formula without attacking each other, how are you going to deal with something so important and so tragic today? It's stunning because again, this is something that massive majorities of Americans agree on. You know, you know, people do have a strong affinity for Second Amendment rights.

They believe that people should be allowed to own and purchase guns, but they also believe that there should be limits to that, and that has been you know, common Son's gun control. As we like to say is not not something that is looked down at by the vast majorities. In fact, they support it. And you know, I would just go back to there was a time when kids in this country in school, we're preparing for a nuclear attack. You know what our kids are preparing for today. Just

what happened. And you've you've all the we all know it. They all go through these lockdown drills. They all know what to do if this happens. That is a sad commentary on where we are. And by the way, you know, as a New Yorker, I will just say we are waiting not just for a Supreme Court decision on abortion and row, but also on New York State's tougher gun control law that is going to be decided by the

Supreme Court any day now. So there are decisions being made at this moment in all areas of the federal level, and in the Supreme Court case, we suspect that they will likely overturn this New York law. So the federal government is taking exactly the wrong approach when it comes to making all of us and our kids safe in their schools. Well, I know that this is you're coming from academia, uh, in in your tenure now, and I own a college, Genie, I know this really hits home

for you as a parent. Any of our our our parent listeners know what this means. I can remember the first time I got that email from school letting me know that they had an active shooter drill, and and I remember hearing about this from my child, how they hate in the corner while the bad man was going down the hall. That kind of stuff is that that's that's just sad to think about your kid going through that, And it's something that the President is going to need

to get to Tonight. We just learned, by the way, from the White House eight p m. Washington time, the President will deliver remarks on what happened today in Texas. You can expect to hear his remarks right here on Bloomberg. Rick, thank you for the insights today, Jennie, thank you too. These things are not easy to talk about, but we're

awfully lucky. I am, and just like to to be surrounded by some of the smartest people, not just smart though, great human beings soof helped us get through some tough stuff this year. We got another one today and we'll have the latest for you ahead on the situation in Texas. Meet you back here tomorrow. I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg