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Around The Way Curls

Antoinette Lee & Shanti Mayersart19.com

Rooted in friendship, humor, and self-actualization, Shanti and Antoinette are a differing, but dynamic duo who explore both the profound and the profane because #DualityIsAThing.


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Episodes

Ep 421. The Crime of Caring Too Much

In this episode, Antoinette enjoys a morning of self-care while Shanti reaches a milestone in motherhood. After listening to caller voicemails, together we explore the contrasting approaches to greatness focusing on actors Jeremy Strong and Kieran Culkin. We discuss how the pursuit of reaching our highest potential can make others uncomfortable, as well as the role of privilege in shaping perceptions of effort and the social stigma surrounding ambition. We reflect on the courage required to care...

Apr 03, 20251 hr 26 min

Ep 420. Quick Question, WTF?

In this episode, Shanti considers quitting therapy, while Antoinette advocates for herself at work. For politics, we discuss the recent security breach involving the National Security Advisor, the cultural impact of government cuts, and the alarming trend of immigration enforcement targeting outspoken students. For pop culture, Antoinette explains the Snow White controversy, LeBron James, Stephen A. Smith, and the nepotism debate regarding his son. We end with a discussion on Marvin Sapp, a crit...

Mar 31, 20251 hr 52 min

Ep 419. ATWC Crash Out: Is Jesus Our Brother or Our Father?

Our beloved Antoinette is back! Together, we share another completely unscripted crash out episode. We discuss Sherri Shepherd and Nia Long's recent beef, siblings we could do without in Hollywood, Ant shares her take on the Breakfast Club, Shanti attempts to freestyle, and we end with a deep theological question - Is Jesus our father or our brother? Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos &...

Mar 27, 20251 hr 36 min

Ep 418. Cosmic Clap, Kanye's Crash Out, Breakfast Club Controversy ft Marquis Richards + Elijah Rhea

In this episode, Antoinette is sick so Shanti is joined by Marquis Richards and Elijah Rhea. Together, we have a lively discussion about the complexities of immigration narratives, the historical context of immigration policies, and the fear surrounding activism. For pop culture, we respond to Anthony Mackie's recent comments on his approach to raising his sons, and the evolving notions of masculinity. We focus on Kanye West's recent controversies, the implications of celebrity culture on mental...

Mar 24, 20251 hr 42 min

Ep 417. "Michael Jordan is More Influential Than Harriet Tubman"

In this episode, Antoinette is inspired by the NFL draft to create her own version: The Black Draft. We compete to select the strongest combinations of Blackness under the categories of "Blackest Movies, Albums, and Influential Figures of All Time to name a few. Who do you think won? Who did we miss? Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus episodes See Privacy Policy at https://a...

Mar 20, 20251 hr 38 min

Ep 416. Department of Ed. Dwindles, Doechii Disses Men + Dr. Umar is A Deadbeat Dad

In this episode, Shanti wishes she was a vegetarian while Antoinette prepares for a surprise birthday party. Together, we discuss the current state of education in the U.S as it faces a cut to half of its employees. We delve into the disparities in funding and school resources and how this disparity may increase if the department is eradicated. We consider the implications of recent government actions on freedom of speech and protests, particularly about the case of Mahmoud Khalil, who was detai...

Mar 17, 20251 hr 15 min

Ep 415. Politically Correct But Inauthentic AF

In this episode, we start with pimple popping, what we have been watching, and fighting PMS with community. For our main topic, Antoinette leads an exploration of the complexities of political correctness and its impact on authenticity. We discuss personal experiences with feeling constrained by social expectations. We discuss the balance between being true to oneself and the pressures of public perception, especially in the age of social media. The dialogue delves into the consequences of inaut...

Mar 13, 20251 hr 18 min

Ep 414. Trump's Tariffs, Zoe Saldana & Queen Latifah for Quincy Jones?!

For this episode, Shanti tries to understand the difference between rewards and treats in her life, while Antoinette escapes into "white people saving the world". For politics we talk tariffs, the U.S. stance on Ukraine and Russia, and the political dynamics surrounding recent events, including Zelensky's meeting with Trump and the State of the Union address. For pop culture, we pay tributes to music legends Angie Stone and Roy Ayers, recap of the Oscars triumphs and disappointments, and talk ab...

Mar 10, 20251 hr 52 min

Ep 413. Womanhood With A White Mother

This episode explores the complexities of womanhood and identity, focusing on our experiences of being raised by white mothers. We reflect on our childhoods and discuss the influence our mothers had on our perceptions of beauty, relationships and sense of responsibility. We highlight the importance of understanding and communication between parents and children when raising biracial children, as well as the lessons learned from our own experiences. Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 ...

Mar 06, 20251 hr 20 min

Ep 412. ICE, Measles, Buzbee, Diddy & Kanye’s Playing Games with Miss Tina

For this episode, Shanti questions Spike Lee's film making decisions while Antoinette battles an ongoing cold and develops a new obsession for a pop star. For politics, we discuss the many moving parts of politics at this moment, highlighting ICE deportations, Palestine, the influence of Andrew Tate, the implications of a measles outbreak, and discuss the recent shakeup at MSNBC with Joy Ann Reid. For pop culture, we talk about The Game and Kanye sliding in Ms. Tina's DM, Will Smith's newest rel...

Mar 03, 20251 hr 18 min

Ep 411. The Long Game: Building a 3rd Political Party ft. Maurice Mitchell

In this episode, Antoinette goes to a modern art museum and doesn't like the art, while Shanti thinks human existence is the equivalent of surviving a plane crash. After listening to voicemails, we talk with Maurice Mitchell, the National Director of the Working Families Party. Together, we discuss the need for a third political party that truly represents the interests of working people. Maurice identifies this country's true enemy and provides practical steps we can take to counteract the rapi...

Feb 27, 20251 hr 46 min

Ep 410. Asian Excellence, Angler Fish & Rocky’s Redemption

In this episode, Shanti is touched by the spiritual journey of an angler fish while Antoinette pushes her nail tech to his highest artistic potential. For politics, we discuss the recent crisis in aviation, the impact of mass terminations of federal workers, recent changes in education policy regarding race, and the somewhat radical health policy reforms proposed by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. For pop culture, we celebrate ASAP Rocky's legal victory and Jay-Z's recent legal troubles, and Beyonce's fan...

Feb 24, 20251 hr 37 min

Ep 409. ATWC Unscripted - The Crash Out Continues

What happens when two best friends record a podcast inebriated? In this episode, Antoinette and Shanti crash out. Using the questions and prompts from our listeners, we follow a completely unscripted, unstructured episode. Together, we get carried away on topics such as what we would do if we swapped genders, which canceled artists we are still loyal to, the origins of our friendship, how we would hypothetically get prison sentences, and more unpopular opinions. Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (...

Feb 20, 20251 hr 10 min

Ep 408. EAGLES! Kendrick + Tricky Black History & Wyt Recessive Genes

In this episode Antoinette and Shanti celebrate the Eagles' Super Bowl victory! We discuss the team's performance, the strategic decisions made, and the cultural significance of the win. For our Black History highlight, Shanti shares the legacy of Dr. Frances Cress-Welsing. For politics, we discuss concerns about Trump's political maneuvers and legal troubles, emphasizing the importance of checks and balances. For pop culture, we share our thoughts on Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl halftime perform...

Feb 17, 20251 hr 28 min

Ep 407. Wait, We Actually DO Want A 6ft, Big D, High-Value Man?

In this episode, Shanti discovers Raising Caine's Chicken Fingers on a dark, cold night while Antoinette pays her condolences to Irv Gotti. We focus on our main topic after listening to very insightful listener voicemails about US farming and biracial coupling. Shanti poses the question: is modern mating in direct conflict with how we are biologically wired to select our partners? Is it wrong to want a man with height, muscles, and a lot of money or a woman with a fat ass, big breasts and a subm...

Feb 13, 20251 hr 9 min

Ep 406. President Musk, Onijah in Pakistan, The Grammys + Sports with Shanti

In this episode, Antoinette and Shanti share their recent experiences at New York theaters thanks to The Culture LP. For politics, we discuss the implications of Trump's statements on Gaza, Elon Musk's influence on the government, and the impact of USAID on global relations. For pop culture, we share our Super Bowl plans, Onijah in Pakistan, and the recent Grammys. We celebrate the achievements of artists like Doechii and Kendrick Lamar while expressing our opinions on the industry's dynamics an...

Feb 10, 20251 hr 48 min

Ep 405. They Will Not Whitewash Our King

In this episode, Shanti deepens her love of Bad Bunny and Puerto Rico while Antoinette shares another musical gem with the people. For our main topic, Antoinette kicks off Black History Month, celebrating the life of Dr. Martin Luther King. The conversation explores the political weaponization of King's teachings in an attempt to soften his radical ideologies. The discussion highlights the role of white moderates and the church in the civil rights movement, the historical context of American inj...

Feb 06, 20251 hr 40 min

Ep 404. Tabitha’s Tricky & Rocky’s Going to Jail A$AP

In this episode, Shanti realizes she is the mother of an angsty teenager while Antoinette continues to celebrate the Eagles going to the Super Bowl. For Black History Month, Shanti highlights the complicated legacy of Lucy Parsons. This week we merge pop culture with politics and discuss the recent DEI rollback decisions made by major corporations. We share our thoughts about the reactions of major Black brands to the boycott such as Tabitha Brown and The Lip Bar. The conversation highlights the...

Feb 03, 20251 hr 37 min

Ep 403. Changing Our Narratives

In this week's reflective episode, we start the episode off in finest English accents! We get serious with our main topic which is inspired by the teachings of Dr. Joe Dispenza. Together, we talk about the science of neuroplasticity which is the brain's ability to change and adapt throughout life. We discuss how our thoughts, emotions, and behaviors shape our reality and can lead to healing or illness. The conversation explores the importance of identifying limiting beliefs and reframing them to...

Jan 30, 20251 hr 10 min

Ep 402. A RacCOON Has Entered the Chat

In this episode, Shanti gets closer to mastering fried chicken while Antoinette considers a monthly crash-out episode for the people. For politics, we discuss the barrage of executive orders and policies enacted by the Trump administration, focusing on their implications for immigration, energy, law enforcement, gender identity, and global agreements. We also question if both the ADL and Snoop Dog are the opps? Together, we explore the murky intersection of celebrity culture and politics and the...

Jan 27, 20251 hr 39 min

Ep 401. Navigating Love With A Child

In this episode, Shanti talks about the recent girl's trip in ATL and her growing love for Bad Bunny while Antoinette considers how she will emotionally manage the next four years with Trump as President. After answering caller voicemails, we dive into our main topic. Shanti shares the conflicting roles of being both a mother and a lover. Together they work through her personal struggles with compartmentalization, communication, and a fear of failing her daughter. Antoinette creates a safe space...

Jan 23, 20251 hr 15 min

Ep 400. An Around The Way Crash Out

We are celebrating 400 episodes! With the help of our listeners, we let loose with a completely unstructured, free-flowing episode. Together, we answer listener questions and talk about any and everything such as circumcision, The Star Spangled Banner, biblical prophesies, why female orgasms are better than males, the growth of our podcast, and our personal predictions for 2025. Join us for an Around The Way crash out... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patr...

Jan 20, 20251 hr 5 min

Ep 399. Sis, That Ain't Support

In this episode, Shanti is excited about a coming girl's trip, while Antoinette feels dismayed over her recent dental visit. Together, we respond to caller voicemails and dive into our main topic: how does one offer real support to loved ones? In the wake of the recent LA fires, we discuss how to provide sincere support and concern without putting ourselves first or feeling performative. Join us... Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/ar...

Jan 16, 20251 hr 25 min

Ep 398. You Can't Box With God

In this episode, we spend time on the devastating destruction of the recent wildfires in Los Angeles. We share our feelings amongst the collective grief. We try to understand the environmental causes of the wildfires, and the confusing political responses to this disaster. We recognize climate change as our new reality and begin to consider how to best prepare for future disasters. For pop culture, we share our thoughts on Obama and Trumps seemingly chummy exchanges at President Jimmy Carter's f...

Jan 13, 20251 hr 26 min

Ep 397. And We're Back

Happy New Year! We start by catching up on our personal lives including a milestone in parenting for Shanti as well as a milestone in Antoinette's love life. For politics, we share the actual medical benefits to a "Dry January" as we are learning more about the link between cancer and alcohol, and the implications of New York City's new congestion pricing measure. For pop culture, we share our reactions to Beyoncé's Christmas halftime performance, significant moments from the Golden Globes, and ...

Jan 09, 20251 hr 45 min

Reprise. We’re 13 Years In & Still Married

In this episode, Shanti wrestles with her inner voice as revealed to her by her "morning pages" and Antoinette reflects on a lesson in faith from her beloved Godson. Together and with the help of psychotherapist Esther Perel, they explore the Paradox of Security vs. Freedom within their personal and working relationship. This brings Shanti to a sort of revelation about partnership. Join us. Watch the Esther Perel video referenced: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODWcrvZhM94 Do you have a questio...

Jan 06, 20251 hr 18 min

Reprise: Ep 302. Blaxploitopia

In this week's episode Shanti finds comfort in old "Insecure" episodes while Antoinette faces some backlash from family members concerning her stance on Palestine. Together, we discuss the GOP's newest Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, the Ebony Alert system, and Barack Obama's recent statement on Israel and Palestine. For pop culture, Antoinette celebrates the life of Richard Roundtree and we try to unravel the many layers surrounding Dwight Howard and an uncanny connection between Candace Owe...

Jan 02, 20251 hr 38 min

Happy Holidays from ATWC

We want to wish everyone safe, restful, and joyous Holidays! Thank you so much for rocking with us this year! We will return next year! Lots of love, Shanti and Antoinette. Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus episodes See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info ....

Dec 24, 202411 min

Ep 396. Failing Forward

In this episode, Shanti confesses that she is failing in an area of her life. We use the book "Failing Forward" by John Maxwell as a guide for the conversation, and together we reflect on our relationships with failure. We attempt to embrace failure as an opportunity for growth and redefine what success and failure mean to each of us. We hope this episode resonates with anyone feeling like giving up. Keep going! Contact Us: Hotline: (215) 948-2780 Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.com Patreon: www....

Dec 19, 202454 min

Ep 395: Did-dy, Do IT? Jay Z x Luigi + RIP Nikki Giovanni

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHANTI! Cashapp $ShantiMayers * Make it rain for a real one * IG: https://www.instagram.com/thesablecollective/?hl=en Website: https://www.thesablecollective.com/ Use discount code ATWC for 20% off the entire order for The Sable Collective https://www.thesablecollective.com/ This week, Shanti has decided to crash out for her birthday while Antoinette drinks chia seed water. We touch on Donald Dump's recent shenanigans, Luigi Mangione' s arrest + Syria's new political climate. We t...

Dec 16, 20241 hr 55 min
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