Episode description

Patric Gagne is a sociopath, but she doesn’t fit the stereotype.

From a violent kid, to now a PhD and author - we track the unusual story of a sociopath who learned to be 'good'.

Plus, there's been some controversy and questions about the veracity of her PhD - so, we fact checked it.

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Guest:Patric Gagne, Author, Sociopath: A Memoir.

Credits:

• Presenter/Producer: Sana Qadar
• Producer: Rose Kerr
• Sound engineers: Tegan Nicholls and Ann-Marie de Bettencor