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AI with AI: Artificial Intelligence with Andy Ilachinski

AI with AI explores the latest breakthroughs in artificial intelligence and autonomy, and discusses the technological and military implications. Join Andy Ilachinski and David Broyles as they explain the latest developments in this rapidly evolving field. The views expressed here are those of the commentators and do not necessarily reflect the views of CNA or any of its sponsors.
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Episodes

Revenge of the AWS

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, [0:53] starting with OpenAI’s announcement that it is making GPT-3 generally available through its API (though developers still require approval for production-scale applications). [3:09] For DARPA’s Gremlins program, two Gremlin Air Vehicles “validated all autonomous formation flying positions and safety features,” and one of the autonomous aircraft demonstrated airborne recovery to a C-130. [4:54] After three years, DARPA announces the ...

Dec 03, 202143 min

Face/Off

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including the Defense Innovation Unit releasing Responsible AI Guidelines in Practice, which seeks to ensure tech contractors adhere to the Department of Defense’s existing ethical principles for AI [0:53]. “Meta” (the Facebook re-brand) announces that it will end its use of facial recognition software and delete data on more than a billion people, though it will retain the technology for other products in its metaverse [3:12]. Australia’...

Nov 19, 202140 min

The Ode to Decoy

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including: NATO releases its first AI strategy, which included the announcement of a one billion euro “NATO innovation fund.” [0:52] Military research labs in the US and UK collaborate on autonomy and AI in a combined demonstration, integrating algorithms and automated workflows into military operations. [2:58] A report from CSET and MITRE identifies that the Department of Defense already has a number of AI and related experts, but that t...

Nov 05, 202138 min

K9mm

Welcome to Season 5.0 of AI with AI! Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including. The White House calls for an AI “bill of rights,” and invites comments for information. In its 4th year, Nathan Benaich and Ian Hogarth publish their State of AI Report, 2021. [1:50] OpenAI uses reinforcement learning from human feedback and recursive task decomposition to improve algorithms’ abilities to summarize books. [3:14] IEEE Spectrum publishes a paper that examines the diminishing r...

Oct 22, 202135 min

Where the Dan Board Are

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including, the UK government releases its National AI Strategy, a 10-year plan to make the country a global AI superpower [1:28]. Stanford University’s One Hundred Year Study on AI Project releases its second report, Gathering Strength, Gathering Storms, assessing developments in AI between 2016 and 2021 around fourteen framing questions. [4:57] The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights calls for a moratorium on the sale and use of AI sys...

Oct 08, 202139 min

Chasing AIMe

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including: [1:28] Researchers from several universities in biomedicine establish the AIMe registry, a community-driven reporting platform for providing information and standards of AI research in biomedicine. [4:15] Reuters publishes a report with insight into examples at Google, Microsoft, and IBM, where ethics reviews have curbed or canceled projects. [8:11] Researchers at the University of Tübingen create an AI method for significantly...

Oct 01, 202136 min

AI Today Podcast: Interview with Andy Ilachinski and David Broyles, hosts of the AI with AI podcast

Andy and Dave were recently interviewed on the AI Today podcast. On the AI Today podcast we regularly interview thought leaders who are implementing AI and cognitive technology at various companies and agencies. However in this episode hosts Kathleen Walch and Ron Schmelzer interview Andy Ilachinski and David Broyles, hosts of the AI with AI podcast. On their podcast, they explore the latest breakthroughs in artificial intelligence and autonomy, as well as their military implications so naturall...

Sep 24, 20211 hr 1 min

Horrorscope

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including: 0:57: The Allen Institute for AI and others come together to create a publicly available “COVID-19 Challenges and Directions” search engine, building off of the corpus of COVID-related research. 5:06: Researchers with the University of Warwick perform a systematic review of test accuracy for the use of AI in image analysis of breast cancer screening and find most (34 or 36) AI systems were less accurate than a single radiologis...

Sep 17, 202144 min

Pet Shop Bots: BEHAVIOR

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including: 0:46 : The GAO releases a more extensive report on US Federal agency use of facial recognition technology, including what purposes. 3:24 : The US Department of Homeland Security Science and Technology Directorate publishes its AI and ML Strategic Plan, with an implementation plan to follow. 5:39 : Ada Lovelace Institute, AI Now Institute, and Open Government Partnership publish a global study on Algorithmic Accountability for t...

Sep 10, 202135 min

The WHO AI: I Can’t Explain (My Generation)

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including an overview of Tesla’s “AI Day,” which among other things, introduced the Dojo supercomputers specialized for ML, the HydraNet single deep-learning model architecture, and a “humanoid robot,” the Tesla Bot. Researchers at Brown University introduce neurograins, grain-of-salt-sized wireless neural sensors, for which they use nearly 50 to record neural activity in a rodent. The Associated Press reports on the flaws in ShotSpotter’s AI gunfire ...

Sep 03, 202140 min

Beauty Is in the AI of the Perceiver

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including an upgraded version of OpenAI’s CoPilot, called, Codex, which can not only complete code but creates it as well (based on natural language inputs from its users). The National Science Foundation is providing $220 million in grants to 11 new National AI Research Institutes (including two fully funded by the NSF). A new DARPA program seeks to explore how AI systems can share their experiences with each other, in Shared-Experience Lifelong Lear...

Aug 27, 202136 min

AI Today, Tomorrow, & Forever

Andy and Dave welcome the hosts of the weekly podcast AI Today, Kathleen Walch and Ronald Schmelzer. On AI Today, Kathleen and Ron discuss topics related to how AI is making impacts around the globe, with a focus on having discussions with industry and business leaders to get their thoughts and perspectives on AI technologies, applications, and implementation challenges. Ron and Kathleen also co-founded Cognilytica, an AI research, education, and advisory firm. The four podcast hosts discuss a v...

Aug 20, 202143 min

XLand, Simulation of Sweet Adventures

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including a story from MIT Technology Review (which echoes observations made previously on AI with AI) that “hundreds of AI tools have been built to catch COVID. None of them helped.” DeepMind has used its AlphaFold program to identify the structure for 98.5 percent of roughly 20,000 human proteins and will make the information publicly available. The Pentagon makes use of machine learning algorithms to create decision space in the latest of its Globa...

Aug 13, 202132 min

Rebroadcast: the social bot network

Andy and Dave kick off Season 4.0 of AI with AI with a discussion on social media bots. CNA colleagues Meg McBride and Kasey Stricklin join to discuss the results of their recent research efforts, in which they explored the national security implications of social media bots. They describe the types of activities that social media bots engage in (distributing, amplifying, distorting, hijacking, flooding, and fracturing), how these activities might evolve in the near future, the legal frameworks ...

Aug 06, 202120 min

The AI Is Smarter on the Other Side of the FENCE

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including the new DARPA FENCE program (Fast Event-based Neuromorphic Camera and Electronics), which seeks to create event-based cameras that only focus on pixels that have changed in a scene. NIST proposed an approach for reducing the risk of bias in AI and has invited the public to comment and help improve it. Researchers from the University of Colorado, Boulder use a machine learning model to learn physical properties in electronics bui...

Jul 30, 202132 min

Rebroadcast: The Robohattan Project

In COVID-related AI news, Andy and Dave discuss survey results from Algorithmia, which shows that IT directors at large companies are looking to spend more money on AI/ML projects due to the pandemic. In regular AI news, the bipartisan Future of Defense Task Force releases its 2020 report, which includes the suggestion of using the Manhattan Project as a model to develop AI technologies. The US and UK sign an agreement to work together on trustworthy AI. Facebook AI releases Dynabench as a way t...

Jul 23, 202136 min

GPT Is My CoPilot

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including a report that the Israel Defense Forces used a swarm of small drones in mid-May in Gaza to locate, identify, and attack Hamas militants, using Thor, a 9-kilgram quadrotor drone. A paper in the Journal of American Medical Association examines an early warning system for sepsis, and finds that it misses out on most instances (67%) of cases, and frequently issued false alarms (to which the developer contests the results). A new bill, the Consum...

Jul 16, 202135 min

Journey to the Cause of Reason

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including research from the San Diego School of Medicine, which used an AI algorithm to analyze terabytes of gene expression data in response to viral infections, identifying 20 genes that predict the severity of a patient’s response (across many different viruses). Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks announces a new AI and Data Acceleration initiative, which includes operational data teams and flyaway technical experts. China says it has AI fi...

Jul 09, 202137 min

Rebroadcast: Xen and the Art of Motorcell Maintenance

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including the European Commission’s proposal for the regulation of AI. A report in Nature Medicine examines the limitations of the evaluation process for medical devices using AI that the FDA approves. Researchers at MIT translate spider webs into sounds to explore how spiders might sense their world, and they using machine learning to classify sounds by spider activities. An NIH panel releases its preliminary ethics rules on making brain-like structu...

Jul 02, 202140 min

Reward of the Coprophages

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including the launch of the National AI Research Resource Task Force, which will serve as a federal advisory committee and produce at least two reports to Congress (a roadmap and implementation plan) by November 2022. Google and Harvard University release a 1.4 PB reconstruction of a cubic millimeter of human brain tissue. Google reports a deep reinforcement-learning system that outperforms humans in designing floorplans for microchips, both in time a...

Jun 25, 202134 min

No Time to AI

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, starting with the US Consumer Products Safety Commission report on AI and ML. The Deputy Secretary of Defense outlines Responsible AI Tenets, along with mandating the JAIC to start work on four activities for developing a responsible AI ecosystem. The Director of the US Chamber of Commerce’s Center for Global Regulatory Cooperation outlines concerns with the European Commission’s newly drafted rules on regulating AI. Amnesty International crowd-source...

Jun 18, 202137 min

Someday My ‘Nets Will Code

Information about the AI Event Series mentioned in this episode: https://twitter.com/CNA_org/status/1400808135544213505?s=20 To RSVP contact Larry Lewis at LewisL@cna.org . Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including a report on Libya from the UN Security Council’s Panel of Experts, which notes the March 2020 use of the “fully autonomous” Kargu-2 to engage retreating forces; it’s unclear whether any person died in the conflict, and many other important details are missing from the inc...

Jun 11, 202145 min

Just the Tip of the Skyborg

Information about the AI Event Series mentioned in this episode: https://twitter.com/CNA_org/status/1400808135544213505?s=20 To RSVP contact Larry Lewis at LewisL@cna.org . Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including the first flight of a drone equipped with the Air Force’s Skyborg autonomy core system. The UK Office for AI publishes a new set of guidance on automated decision-making in government, with Ethics, Transparency and Accountability Framework for Automated Decision-Making. T...

Jun 04, 202135 min

Rebroadcast: A.I. in the Sky

Andy and Dave welcome Arthur Holland Michel to the podcast for a discussion on predictability and understandability in military AI. Arthur is an Associate Researcher at the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research, a Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs, and author of the book Eyes in the Sky: the Secret Rise of Gorgon Stare and How It Will Watch Us All. Arthur recently published The Black Box, Unlocked: Predictability and Understandability in Milita...

May 28, 202136 min

Doggone

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including a new AI website from the White House at AI.gov, which provides a variety of resources on recent reports, news, key US agencies, and other information. The U.S. Navy destroys a surface vessel using a swarm of drones (in combination with other weapons) for the first time. The NYPD announces the retirement of its Boston Dynamics robot dog (Digidog) due to negative public reaction at its use. The French Defence Ministry releases a report on the...

May 21, 202140 min

Superhumans

Andy's out this week, but Dave recently had a chance to do a series of interviews on a paper that he wrote, Superhumans, Implications of genetic engineering and human-centered bioengineering. So this week's podcast will feature a rebroadcast of the interview that Dave had on Titillating Sports. A big thanks to Rick Tittle and Darren Peck from the Sports Byline USA Network for conducting the interview and for allowing us to share it. Rick and Dave discuss the latest and greatest in genetic engine...

May 14, 202115 min

Mnemosyne That Before

Andy and Dave discuss the latest AI news and research, including a blog post from the Federal Trade Commission that businesses can and will be held accountable for the fairness of their algorithms. A bipartisan coalition of U.S. Senators has introduced the “Fourth Amendment Is Not for Sale Act,” which would ban law enforcement and intelligence agencies from buying data on people in the U.S. and about Americans abroad, if that data was obtained from a user’s account or device, through deception, ...

May 07, 202137 min

Xen and the Art of Motorcell Maintenance

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including the European Commission’s proposal for the regulation of AI. A report in Nature Medicine examines the limitations of the evaluation process for medical devices using AI that the FDA approves. Researchers at MIT translate spider webs into sounds to explore how spiders might sense their world, and they using machine learning to classify sounds by spider activities. An NIH panel releases its preliminary ethics rules on making brain-like structu...

Apr 30, 202140 min

Donkey Pong

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including the National Intelligence Council’s 7th Edition Global Trends 2040 Report, which sprinkles the importance of AI and ML throughout future trends. A BuzzFeed report claims that the NYPD has misled the public about its use of the facial recognition tool, Clearview AI, having run over 5100 searches with the tool. European Activist Groups ask the European Commission to ban facial recognition completely, with calls to protect “fundamental rights” ...

Apr 23, 202139 min

Xenomania

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news, including the resignation of Samy Bengio from Google Brain, which fired ethicists Gebru in December and Mitchell in February. The Joint AI Center releases its request for proposals on Data Readiness for AI Development (DRAID). DARPA prepares for the quantum age with a program for Quantum Computer Benchmarking. And a separate DARPA program seeks to enable fully homomorphic encryption with its Data Protection in Virtual Environments (DPRIVE) program. A ...

Apr 16, 202137 min
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