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AI with AI: Artificial Intelligence with Andy Ilachinski

AI with AI explores the latest breakthroughs in artificial intelligence and autonomy, and discusses the technological and military implications. Join Andy Ilachinski and David Broyles as they explain the latest developments in this rapidly evolving field. The views expressed here are those of the commentators and do not necessarily reflect the views of CNA or any of its sponsors.
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Episodes

All Good Things

For the final (for now?) episode of AI with AI, Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including a political declaration from the US Department of State on the responsible military use of AI and autonomy. NATO begins work on an AI certification standard. The IEEE introduces a new program that provides free access to AI ethics and governance standards. Reported in February, but performed in December, A joint Dept of Defense team performed 12 flight tests (over 17 hours) in whic...

Feb 24, 202328 minSeason 6Ep. 8

Up, Up, and Autonomy!

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including the update of the Department of Defense Directive 3000.09 on Autonomy in Weapon Systems. NIST releases the first version of its AI Risk Management Framework. The National AI Research Resource (NAIRR) Task Force publishes its final report, in which it details its plans for a national research infrastructure, as well as its request for $2.6 billion over 6 years to fund the initiatives. DARPA announces the Autonomous Multi-domain A...

Feb 10, 202337 minSeason 6Ep. 7

Dr. GPT

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, starting with an education program from AI that teaches US Air Force personnel the fundamentals of AI across three types: leaders, developers, and users. The US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission unveils its draft Strategic Enforcement Plan to target AI-based hiring bias. The US Department of State establishes the Office of the Special Envoy for Critical and Emerging Technology to bring “additional technology policy expertise, diplom...

Jan 29, 202337 minSeason 6Ep. 6

EmerGPT

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI and autonomy news and research, including a report from Human Center AI that assesses progress (or lack thereof) of the implementation of the three pillars of America’s strategy for AI innovation. The Department of Energy is offering up a total of $33M for research in leveraging AI/ML for nuclear fusion. China’s Navy appears to have launched a naval mothership for aerial drones. China is also set to introduce regulation on “deepfakes,” requiring users to gi...

Jan 13, 202336 minSeason 6Ep. 5

The Kwicker Man

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including the release of the US National Defense Authorization Act for FY2023, which includes over 200 mentions of “AI” and many more requirements for the Department of Defense. DoD has also awarded its cloud-computing contracts, not to one company, but four – Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and Oracle. At the end of November, the San Francisco Board voted to allow the police force to use robots to administer deadly force, however, after a nea...

Dec 16, 202232 minSeason 6Ep. 4

Battledrone Galactica

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including the introduction of a lawsuit against Microsoft, GitHub and OpenAI for allegedly violating copyright law by reproducing open-source code using AI. The Texas Attorney General files a lawsuit against Google alleging unlawful capture and use of biometric data of Texans without their consent. DARPA flies its final flight of ALIAS, an autonomous system outfitted on a UH-60 Black Hawk. And Rafael’s DRONE DOME counter-UAS system wins P...

Dec 02, 202236 minSeason 6Ep. 3

The AI Who Loved Me

Andy and Dave once again welcome Sam Bendett, research analyst with CNA’s Russia Studies Program, to the podcast to discuss the latest unmanned and autonomous news from the Ukraine and Russian conflict. The group discusses the use and role of commercial quadcopters, the recent Black Sea incident involving unmanned systems, and the supply of Iranian systems to Russia. They also discuss the Wagner Group’s Research and Development center, and its potential role in the Ukraine-Russian conflict. Will...

Nov 25, 202231 minSeason 6Ep. 2

Drawing Outside the Box

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI-related news and research, including a bill from the EU that will make it easier for people to sue AI companies for harm or damages caused by AI-related technologies. The US Office of S&T Policy releases a Blueprint for an AI Bill of Rights, which further lays the groundwork for potential legislation. The US signs the AI Training for the Acquisition Workforce Act into law, requiring federal acquisition officials to receive training on AI, and it require...

Nov 04, 202233 minSeason 6Ep. 1

Keep Watching the AIs!

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, starting with a publication from the UK’s National Cyber Security Centre, providing a set of security principles for developers implementing machine learning models. Gartner publishes the 2022 update to its “AI Hype Cycle,” which qualitatively plots the position of various AI efforts along the “hype cycle.” PromptBase opens its doors, promising to provide users with better “prompts” for text-to-image generators (such as DALL-E) to generat...

Sep 23, 202236 minSeason 5Ep. 24

NOMARS Attacks!

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, starting with DARPA moving into Phase 2 of its No Manning Required Ship (NOMARS) program, having selected Serco Inc for its Defiant ship design. The UK releases a roadmap on automated vehicles, Connected & Automated Mobility 2025, and describes new legislation that will place liability for the actions of self-driving vehicles onto manufacturers, and not the occupants. The DOD’s Chief Digital and AI Office is preparing to roll out Trad...

Sep 09, 202239 min

EPIC BLOOM

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI and autonomy news and research, including an announcement that the Federal Trade Commission is exploring rules for cracking down on harmful commercial surveillance and lax data security, with the public having an opportunity to share input during a virtual public form on 8 September 2022. The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), with help from Caroline Kraczon, releases The State of State AI Policy, a catalog of AI-related bills that states and loc...

Aug 26, 202235 min

Searching for Robot Pincher

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including an announcement from DeepMind that it is freely providing a database of 200+ million protein structures as predicted by AlphaFold. Researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Intelligent Systems demonstrate how a robot dog can learn to walk in about one hour using a Bayesian optimization algorithm. A chess-playing robot breaks the finger of a seven-year-old boy during a chess match in Moscow. A bill with the Senate Armed Service...

Aug 12, 202246 minSeason 5Ep. 21

AI-chemy 2: This Time It's Personal (Part 2)

Dr. Anya Fink from CNA’s Russia Studies program joins the podcast to discuss the impacts of global sanctions on Russia’s technology and AI sector. Report CNA : A Technological Divorce: The impact of sanctions and the end of cooperation on Russia’s technology and AI sector....

Jul 29, 202218 minSeason 5Ep. 20

AI-chemy 2: This Time It's Personal

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including an update from DARPA on its Machine Common Sense program, demonstrating rapidly adapting to changing terrain, carrying dynamic loads, and understanding how to grasp objects [0:55]. The Israeli military fields new tech from Camero-Tech that allows operators to ‘see through walls,’ using pulse-based ultra-wideband micro-power radar in combination with an AI-based algorithm for tracking live targets [5:01]. In autonomous shipping [...

Jul 15, 202224 minSeason 5Ep. 19

the sentience of the lamdas

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, starting with the Department of Defense releasing its Responsible AI Strategy. In the UK, the Ministry of Defence publishes its Defence AI Strategy. The Federal Trade Commission warns policymakers about relying on AI to combat online problems and instead urges them to develop legal frameworks to ensure AI tools do not cause additional harm. YouTuber Yannic Kilcher trains an AI on 4chan’s “infamously toxic” Politically Incorrect board, cre...

Jul 02, 202241 minSeason 5Ep. 18

RAI, consumers’ co-operative

CNA colleagues Kaia Haney and Heather Roff join Andy and Dave to discuss Responsible AI. They discuss the recent Inclusive National Security seminar on AI and National Security: Gender, Race, and Algorithms. The keynote speaker, Elizabeth Adams spoke on the challenges that society faces in integrating AI technologies in an inclusive fashion, and she identified ways in which consumers of AI-enabled products can ask questions and engage on the topic of inclusivity and bias. The group also discusse...

Jun 17, 202244 minSeason 5Ep. 17

Top Gan: Swarmaverick

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, starting with an announcement that DoD will be updating its Directive 3000.09 on “Autonomous Weapons,” with the new Emerging Capabilities Policy Office leading the way [1:25]. The DoD names Diane Staheli as the new chief for Responsible AI [5:19]. NATO launches an AI strategic initiative, Horizon Scanning, to better understand AI and its potential military implications [6:31]. China unveils an autonomous drone carrier ship even though Dav...

Jun 03, 202237 minSeason 5Ep. 16

El Gato Altinteligento

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, starting with the European Parliament adopting the final recommendations of the Special Committee on AI in a Digital Age (AIDA), finding that the EU should not always regulate AI as a technology, but use intervention proportionate to the type of risk, among other recommendations [1:31]. Synchron enrolled the first patient in the U.S. clinical trial of its brain-computer interface, Stentrode, which does not require drilling into the skull ...

May 20, 202243 minSeason 5Ep. 15

Leggo my Stego!

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and search, including a report from the Government Accountability Office, recommending that the Department of Defense should improve its AI strategies and other AI-related guidance [1:25]. Another GAO report finds that the Navy should improve its approach to uncrewed maritime systems, particularly in its lack of accounting for the full costs to develop and operate such systems, but also recommends the Navy establish an “entity” with oversight for the p...

May 06, 202229 minSeason 5Ep. 14

The Amulet of NeRFdor

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including a proposal from the Ada Lovelace Institute with 18 recommendations to strengthen the EU AI Act. [0:57] NVidia updates its Neural Radiance Fields to Instant NeRF, which can reconstruct a 3D scene from 2D images nearly 1000 times faster than other implementations. [2:53] Nearly 100 Chinese-affiliated researchers publish a 200-page position paper about large-scale models, a “roadmap.” [4:13] In research, GoogleAI introduces PaLM (P...

Apr 22, 202238 minSeason 5Ep. 13

Bridge on the River NukkAI

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including DoD’s 2023 budget for research, engineering, development, and testing at $130B, around 9.5% higher than the previous year. DARPA announces the “In the Moment” (ITM) program, which aims to create rigorous and quantifiable algorithms for evaluating situations where objective ground truth is not available. The European Parliament’s Special Committee on AI in a Digital Age (AIDA) adopts its final recommendations, though the report i...

Apr 08, 202235 minSeason 8Ep. 12

A PIG GR_PH

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including an announcement that Ukraine’s defense ministry has begun to use Clearview AI’s facial recognition technology and that Clearview AI has not offered the technology to Russia [1:10]. In similar news, WIRED provides an overview of a topic mentioned in the previous podcast – using open-source information and facial recognition technology to identify Russian soldiers [2:46]. The Department of Defense announces its classified Joint Al...

Mar 25, 202235 minSeason 5Ep. 11

Slightly Unconscionable

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including a GAO report on AI – Status of Developing and Acquiring Capabilities for Weapon Systems [1:01]. The U.S. Army has awarded a contract for the demonstration of an offensive drone swarm capability (the HIVE small Unmanned Aircraft System), seemingly similar but distinct from DARPA’s OFFSET demo [4:11]. A ‘pitch deck’ from Clearview AI reveals their intent to expand beyond law enforcement and aim to have 100B facial photos in its da...

Mar 11, 202238 minSeason 5Ep. 10

Short Circuit RACER

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, starting with the Aircrew Labor In-Cockpit Automation System (ALIAS) program from DARPA, which flew a UH-60A Black Hawk autonomously and without pilots on board, to include autonomous (simulated) obstacle avoidance [1:05]. Another DARPA program, Robotic Autonomy in Complex Environments with Resiliency (RACER) entered its first phase, focused on high-speed autonomous driving in unstructured environments, such as off-road terrain [2:39]. Th...

Feb 25, 202244 min

Xenopus in Boots

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including a report from the School of Public Health in Boston that shows why most “data for good” initiatives failed to impact the COVID-19 health crisis [0:45]. The Department of Homeland Security tests the use of robot dogs (from Ghost Robotics) for border patrol duties [5:00]. Researchers find that public trust in AI varies greatly depending on its application [7:52]. Researchers from Stanford University and Toyota Research Institute f...

Feb 11, 202242 min

Xenadu

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including an update from the DARPA OFFSET (OFFensive Swarm-Enabled Tactics) program, which demonstrated the use of swarms in a field exercise, to include one event that used 130 physical drone platforms along with 30 simulated [0:33]. DARPA’s GARD (Guaranteeing AI Robustness against Deception) program has released a toolkit to help AI developers test their models against attacks. Undersecretary of Defense for Research and Engineering, Hei...

Jan 28, 202242 minSeason 5Ep. 7

Three Amecas!

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, including the signing of the 2022 National Defense Authorization Act, which contains a number of provisions related to AI and emerging technology [0:57]. The Federal Trade Commission wants to tackle data privacy concerns and algorithmic discrimination and is considering a wide range of options to do so, including new rules and guidelines [4:50]. The European Commission proposes a set of measures to regulate digital labor platforms in the ...

Jan 14, 202240 min

Rebroadcast: AI Today, Tomorrow, & Forever

Andy and Dave welcome the hosts of the weekly podcast AI Today, Kathleen Walch and Ronald Schmelzer. On AI Today, Kathleen and Ron discuss topics related to how AI is making impacts around the globe, with a focus on having discussions with industry and business leaders to get their thoughts and perspectives on AI technologies, applications, and implementation challenges. Ron and Kathleen also co-founded Cognilytica, an AI research, education, and advisory firm. The four podcast hosts discuss a v...

Dec 31, 202143 min

Is it alive or is it Xeno-rex?

Andy and Dave discuss the latest in AI news and research, starting with the US Department of Defense creating a new position of the Chief Digital and AI Officer, subsuming the Joint AI Center, the Defense Digital Service, and the office of the Chief Data Officer [0:32]. Member states of UNESCO adopt the first-ever global agreement on the ethics of AI, which includes recommendations on protecting data, banning social scoring and mass surveillance, helping to monitor and evaluate, and protecting t...

Dec 17, 202138 min
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