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Acquiring Minds

Will Smithacquiringminds.co
Buying a business is an amazing path for many successful entrepreneurs. Learn how to buy a business from the entrepreneurs who have already done it. 2x per week: stories, insights, & valuable advice about acquisition entrepreneurship. Hosted by Will Smith, who is on his own path to acquire a business. Also on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AcquiringMinds Sign up for episode summaries at: https://acquiringminds.co
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How One Tiny Acquisition Grew Into a Holdco

Matt Huggins bought a small water & cable utility doing $200k/year. 15 years later, his holdco is on track for $20m/yr. Topics in this interview: Matt's decision to step off the academic track Matt's career as a professional online poker player Transitioning from poker to small business Acquiring a utilities company for a group of condos The surprising complexity of running a utilities company Starting a manhole lining business The stability and diversity of the water industry Acquiring busi...

Jul 17, 20231 hr 25 min

5x in 5 Years: Buying Small to Grow Quickly

Holdco entrepreneur Chase Murdock buys very small businesses with potential for rapid growth & decades of staying power. Topics in Chase’s interview: Starting a custom suit company with $750 Decata Group's “car wash integration process” for acquisitions Workshop SLC’s 5x growth in the first year of acquisition Getting out of the “small business death zone” ASAP The knife fight of acquiring and growing small businesses The #1 ingredient in company building Maslow’s hierarchy of business needs...

Jul 10, 20231 hr 29 min

Snowball Effect: Getting to $45m in 3 Years

Amir Haboosheh was drawn to the double-opportunity in acquiring home services businesses: the financial, and the impact. Topics in Amir’s interview: Why Amir wasn’t interested in a digital business Offering blue collar employees shares in the company Snowball’s plan for going public Snowball’s playbook for operating businesses How to hire a good GM for your business How to incentivize operators Acquiring a marketing company Why SDE isn’t everything How Anderson Air doubled revenue in 3 years Ret...

Jul 06, 20231 hr 33 min

Don't Overlook HR Diligence: 3 Items to Check

Mark Sinatra returns to explain what to diligence from an HR perspective when buying your business. Topics in Mark’s interview: Top 3 things to diligence in your acquisition when it comes to HR How industry associations can be a source of deal flow (once you're already acquired) "Book of business" acquisitions Best type to execute add-on acquisitions How to prioritize what to integrate in an add-on acquisition How to recover from losing a big customer Value of personality profiling tools in hiri...

Jul 03, 202341 min

How to Shorten Your Search: Big 3, Little 2

Sam Rosati shares a framework to clarify your search criteria & reduce the months it takes to find a business to buy. Topics in Sam’s interview: The reason search takes so long How to speed up your search process Underwriting criteria of SBA lenders Knowing how to kill a deal Considering the fit of the searcher as CEO Understanding SBA loan framework Importance of recurring or repeating revenue Opportunities and risks in buying small Managing criteria to get enough deals in the pipeline Comm...

Jun 29, 202354 min

The Secret to $25m Success

James Bloom has 8x'd a small mechanical contractor he bought only 4 years ago, despite it being a competitive industry. Topics in James’s interview: How his background in M&A informed his due diligence process How he ensured a smooth transition Commercial HVAC vs. residential HVAC Why he funded growth out of his own pocket Reducing his weekly work hours from 100 to 60 How his business differentiates itself in the construction industry Growing his staff from 8 to 80 Growing revenue from $3M t...

Jun 26, 20231 hr 42 min

What Buying Small Is Like When Crises Happen

3 days into Monte Marcum's acquisition of an established franchise, key equipment breaks. Then the crises kept coming. Topics in Monte’s interview: Buying 2 existing & adjacent franchise businesses at once How Filta’s customer pricing is structured Why commercial kitchens love his business Combining two businesses Equipment starts breaking on day three Monte’s series of fetal position moments What exactly is hard about running a business How one rockstar employee guided him through a season ...

Jun 22, 20231 hr 18 min

Self-Funded Search vs. Independent Sponsorship

Niklas James started off as a self-funded searcher, but evolved into being an independent sponsor of 7 acquisitions. Topics in Niklas’s interview: Why he returned the funds raised for his traditional search fund How the painful challenges of his first acquisition set him up for success on later deals Why SaaS isn’t as sexy as it seems Evolution from self-funded searcher to independent sponsor Definition of an independent sponsor Why HVAC is so attractive Growing his home services business What t...

Jun 20, 20231 hr 43 min

The Bumpy Reality of Buying an Ecommerce Business

Martin Bispels updates us on the DTC ecommerce business he bought in 2020 and had grown to almost $2m/yr one year later. Topics in Martin’s interview: Using the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) Building and managing a great remote team Why he doesn’t sell on Amazon The difference between buying and shopping Opportunities for bolt-on products Marks of a good ecommerce business The power of story to differentiate your product Moving his supplier from China to Vietnam Finding a good 3PL Keepi...

Jun 15, 202353 min

Owner vs CEO: 2 Approaches to Buying a Business

Derek Turner has done both a traditional search fund and self-funded. We hear both stories & explore the differences. Topics in Derek’s interview: The advantages of a geographically-focused search His method for pitching business owners doing cold outreach Challenges within the laser van business Being a good soldier vs being a sucker The downside of growth The perils of buying from unpleasant owners How the company grew with no marketing Hiring a GM to run the business Why have a board with...

Jun 12, 20231 hr 25 min

One Acquiring Minds Guest Buys Another

2 previous guests, Mike Botkin & Adrian Pinto, are joining forces to grow a landscaping empire throughout the Southeast. Topics in Adrian and Mike’s interview: Adrian and Mike meeting through Acquiring Minds Why it was difficult for Adrian to get a line of credit for his business Mike’s holding company acquired Adrian’s landscaping company The pros and cons of buying assets vs. stock How an SBA loan can hamper growth in some situations Why Mike says acquisition is a talent game How they stru...

Jun 08, 20231 hr 4 min

Raising $800k to Buy an $8m Business as a First-Timer

With no finance background, Kevin Bibelhausen learned to raise money from investors & buy a 20-year-old fabric business. Topics in Kevin’s interview: His health crisis that led to a career change Losing funding at the last minute Raising $800k in 5 weeks Automating his money-raise process with investors The value of being active on Twitter Acquiring a $8m business using very little of his own money The ideal number of investors What attracted Kevin to Heritage Fabrics Managing working capita...

Jun 05, 20231 hr 25 min

It Worked: Buying an Ecom Business to Gain Freedom

Alex Michael was seeking to acquire not just a business, but freedom. One year later, he reports back on how it's going. Topics in Alex’s interview: Top line growth in the last year How he diligenced Wallaroo Wallets How he uses Amazon PPC ads The limitations of an Amazon FBA business An expensive lesson about traffic diversification Launching new products Having his family involved in his business Living life on his own terms His unconventional thoughts on productivity The topics he writes on L...

Jun 01, 202336 min

Buy Big: How to Acquire a $3m EBITDA Roofing Business

How Austin Smoak raised money from investors to buy a very profitable roofing business that he found on BizBuySell. Topics in Austin's interview: How Goldman Sachs prepared him for business ownership Passively owning franchises Why he recommends local brokers over proprietary search Finding “business-buyer fit” His plan to scale via roll-up His philosophy on change management Pros and cons of being funded by a family office The scope of his residential roofing business The roofing industry in Fl...

May 30, 202349 min

Home Care Business: How to Buy & 2x an Agency

Jérôme Bouillon bought a home care agency doing $500k/yr in 2018. Today it exceeds $1m and he's added a second location. Topics in Jerome’s interview: His cold calling strategy Buying a Visiting Angels franchise Seeing his employees as his customers The changes he made immediately to employee benefits Why he stopped penny-pinching in the business Why it’s important to know how to work in the business Margins in home care Home care vs. home healthcare How to scale up in this industry The benefits...

May 25, 20231 hr 8 min

Overworked & Underpaid: Buying a Business to Escape

Heather Shattuck-Heidorn was a tenure-tracked professor, but wanted out. Buying a business offered freedom & security. Topics in Heather’s interview: What she loved about academia Why she initially resisted franchises How she found a custom closet franchise Being her husband’s employer Her thoughts on capitalism How small business ownership differs from academia What she likes about owning a franchise How she grows her business organically Learning to communicate with her employees Her fetal...

May 22, 20231 hr 29 min

Learning to Lead: From Searcher to Boss of 140

Having only ever managed a few people when he bought his business, Alex Glasner shares how the trial by fire is going. Topics in Alex's interview: The difference between searching and operating The challenge of improving processes How rapid growth affected the company Running the business with a partner How the economy impacts his industry Having the British government as his sole customer Idealism and disillusionment in helping professions Why he hasn’t acquired a second business Why the first ...

May 18, 202354 min

Uber Driver to 7-Figure Exit in 3 Years

Ben Bortner couch-surfed, drove Uber, and racked up credit card debt while finding a pool business to buy. It went well. Topics in Ben’s interview: Buying a pool service business, putting in only $100 of his own money for equity Changes he made to employee compensation (and why) Acquiring a second pool business Why Ben became certified to do pool maintenance himself How Ben improved company culture Why he didn’t want to hire a GM Selling his company to Pool Troopers Launching a fund for self-fun...

May 15, 20231 hr 24 min

Surviving the Nightmare: Sales Plunge 95%

9 months after Jesse Safir bought a printing biz, Covid cratered it. 3 years later, sales are nearing pre-Covid levels. Topics in Jesse’s interview: Finding ABG Printing by sending direct mail The value of having a “forgettable” business Renegotiating his deal before acquisition The changes he made in the first 9 months Cutting 80% of his staff during COVID Managing cash flow after revenue plunged 95% Staffing post-COVID How their printing projects have diversified The landscape of the printing ...

May 11, 20231 hr 13 min

How to Raise Money from Investors to Buy a Business

2 searchers, Kaustubh Deo & Kevin Bibelhausen, share how they found investors to provide money to buy their businesses. Topics in Kevin and Kaustubh’s interview: How Twitter helps searchers learn and network How Kevin found investors after his funding fell through How they selected investors What a good pitch meeting looks like How they communicate with investors post-acquisition The power of superconnectors when raising funds The size of their cap tables How they organized their contacts wh...

May 08, 202349 min

How to Buy a $5m Business & Hire an Operator to Run It

It CAN be done: Matthew Saskin recently acquired a big towing business, hiring an operator to run it from day 1. Topics in Matthew Saskin’s interview: Why he chose a towing company Putting in an operator from day one Improvements he made right away Why he kept his day job (and how he manages it) His COO’s compensation package What is phantom equity (and how it’s different from true equity) How real estate investment is different from SMB ownership The landscape of the towing industry Revenue str...

May 01, 20231 hr 33 min

The Opportunity in Carve-Outs (and Uncle Sam)

Caroline Chapdelaine seized opportunity when a biomed company needed to sell a $2m unit that made special defense tech. Topics in Caroline’s interview: About the defense contracting industry Buying a business in the defense industry (and why it’s hard) Buying a carve-out business The unusual terms of a carve-out deal Unforeseen costs after purchasing a carve-out The benefits of having partners Assessing the strategic value of your business to its customers Running out of money months after purch...

Apr 27, 20231 hr 10 min

Fetal Position to Foundry Holdco ($30m & Counting)

Despite dire warnings against it, Reg Zeller bought a foundry. He's since bought 6 more & sees a clear path to $100m/yr. Topics in Reg Zeller’s interview: Why he bought a foundry (against everyone’s advice) The famous fetal position story The importance of a peer group His journey from one acquisition to a holdco Why searchers should spend 2 years operating the business they buy Reg’s plan to get to $100 million How to eliminate key man risk How Reg found his rockstar COO Opportunities in no...

Apr 24, 20231 hr 44 min

How to 2x Sales in a Service Business You Buy

Adrian Pinto returns to reflect on his 1.5 years as owner of a landscaping business that he's grown from $3m to $6m/yr. Topics in Adrian’s interview: Buying and growing Georgia Scapes Growth through acquisition in landscaping Doubling revenue in 18 months His B2B sales process Competition in landscaping Commercial vs residential landscaping Maintenance work vs project work Due diligence for a landscaping company Beyond EBITDA: evaluating size of business to buy Risks in acquiring a landscaping b...

Apr 20, 20231 hr 7 min

How to Build a Portfolio of 20 Franchise Locations

Michael Horowitz was looking to buy an independent business when a different path opened up. Today he owns 20 Wingstops. Topics in Michael’s interview: Pros and cons of searching within franchises Why Michael was attracted to QSR’s (quick service restaurants) Buying 7 Wingstop locations in Ohio Writing an operating agreement for 3 co-owners Development agreements with franchises Operating QSR’s during Covid Opening and closing a ghost kitchen Daily operations of owning 20 Wingstop locations Moti...

Apr 17, 20231 hr 34 min

Life as an Operator: Leaving PE to Buy a $2m Tree Business

Kaustubh Deo reflects on his first year as the owner of a tree business versus his former life in NYC private equity. Topics in Kaustubh’s interview: Buying a tree service business Buyer’s vs seller’s discretionary earnings Reflecting on 13 months as a business owner Possibility for roll-ups Being an outsider in the tree industry Change management His thoughts on holdcos Measuring success for his business Life as a business owner vs. life in private equity His advice for searchers Links and how ...

Apr 13, 20231 hr 19 min

From Determined Searcher to $75m Accidental Holdco

Adam Duggins had 650 meetings to find his first business in 2013, not expecting he'd buy 3 more over the next 10 years. Topics in Adam Duggins’s interview: Meeting with 650 people (in person!) during his search How Adam found his partner & structured their ownership How Adam became a holdco without meaning to How motivating blue collar workers versus white collar careerists is different Why Adam prefers working with blue collar versus white collar Buying businesses in overlooked geographies ...

Apr 10, 20231 hr 47 min

Feast or Famine: How to Grow a Niche Manufacturing Biz

Bruce Vann returns to update us on his manufacturing business, and a thesis around the roll-up of window blinds stores. Topics in Bruce Vann’s interview: Buying a stage curtain/shades business Profitability of the business Their curtain and shades products Acquiring a blinds company Integrating his businesses Bruce’s vision for expansion The possibilities for search in window treatments The feast or famine nature of the business The long sales cycle Investing in a ribbon weight machine Bruce’s a...

Apr 06, 202344 min

Navigating Failure: Buying a $5m+ Business that Collapses

John Ikalowych shares his traumatic journey of going all-in to buy a hail-repair business, then having to shut it down. Topics in John Ikalowych’s interview: John’s background in commercial banking Buying a car hail repair business Losing half his staff just months after acquisition The disaster that tanked their finances Pivoting from B2C to B2B Shutting down the business How the business failure changed him Closing a business with a personal guarantee John’s advice to searchers The importance ...

Apr 03, 20231 hr 28 min

Single Mom, 2 Kids, and a $4m Business

Morli Desai left corporate to scratch her entrepreneurial itch, using an SBA loan to buy an ecommerce biz with $1m SDE. Topics in Morli Desai’s interview: Leaving her corporate job at 40 Joining the Acquisition Lab Purchasing an ecommerce business How to approach brokers Transitioning an ecommerce business Purchasing an Australian entity Marketing with PPC Assessing risk in ecommerce Proprietary vs brokered search Inventory management in ecommerce Links and how to contact Morli: LinkedIn 4,000 w...

Mar 30, 20231 hr 24 min
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