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ABM Done Right - A Personal ABM Podcast

Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruberabm-done-right-podcast.buzzsprout.com

As ITSMA and TechTarget report that 66% of ABM programs underperform, Kristina Jaramillo (President of Personal ABM) and Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) talk to sales and marketing leaders about what's working, what's not working, and how ABM needs to evolve. Along with account-based sales and marketing insights from Kristina and Eric, you will learn from leadership at Challenger, Demandbase, Okta, Uniphore, Alyce, Highspot, Gong, Critical Start, Longbow Advantage, Proof Analytics, Narrative Science, and many others. Come back each week for new content as we try to share new podcasts each Monday or Tuesday. This podcast is hosted by Personal ABM. You can learn more by going to PersonalABM.com

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Episodes

David Anderson on Using ABM to Overcome Indecision & Win More Enterprises Deals

Send us a text David Anderson (Co-Founder and COO at SellingInnovations) joined Eric Gruber and Kristina Jaramillo to discuss how GTM teams can drive greater stage progression and avoid accounts going dark - an issue that many companies like Uniphore struggle with today. Listen to this podcast to see how you can enable buyers to overcome their fear of risk, failure, disruption and spiraling costs. Learn how you can help buyers become uncomfortable in their current situation -- and comfortable wi...

May 29, 202556 min

Why ABM Should Be Led by the Revenue Marketing Organization & How GE Healthcare Can See a Bigger Revenue Impact with ABM

Send us a text On this ABM Done Right Podcast episode, Eric Gruber sits down with Jodie Lail (Revenue Marketing Leader at GE Healthcare) to discuss why teams need a revenue marketing organization if they are engaging in ABM. Eric also digs into the GE Healthcare ABM program and discusses what's working for them - and where there are opportunities to have a stronger revenue impact....

May 15, 202553 min

Angie Assennato on Why ABM Programs Are Delivering Limited Returns

Send us a text Twice in a row, Angie Assennato, Senior Director of Growth Marketing at Signifyd, came into a marketing team that was already doing ABM but was getting limited returns. In this podcast, she discusses with Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber the challenges they had, the reasons behind the failing programs and how intent data/ABM tech were not effectively being leveraged. As leadership at Signifyd also wants to go upmarket, we'll also discuss the changes that need to be made to engag...

Feb 11, 202551 min

Winning with Your Big Bets with ABM - A Conversation with Marta George

Send us a text Marta George, Head of EMEA ABM at Ping Identity, joined Eric Gruber and Kristina Jaramillo on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss the change management that needed to happen for them to win with their big bets, what their 1:few and 1:1 ABM program look like for their big bets and how they select their big bets. She also talked about the need to scale back to scale up the impact you have on revenue with your big bets....

Jan 23, 202558 min

How ABM Should Transform the Business and Your GTM - A Discussion with Joel Harrison

Send us a text Megan Bowen (CEO of Refine Labs) mentioned on LinkedIn "The most important discipline that mid-market and enterprise B2B SaaS companies need to be cultivating is...Change management This is especially true for successful companies that have been around for 1-2 decades, that have been able to more easily manage the recent turbulence in B2B SaaS over the last few years and are still executing an outdated GTM strategy The relative success of companies at this stage is hiding GTM inef...

Jan 16, 202556 min

Going Beyond Intent Signals - A Discussion with Peter Mollins

Send us a text In this ABM Done Right Podcast episode, Peter Mollins (a 2X guest on the podcast and CMO of Nooks) joined Eric Gruber to discuss the "signals" that GTM teams should pay attention to that go beyond intent data.

Jan 16, 202531 min

Assessing Your GTM - A Conversation Between Mark Osborne and Eric Gruber

Send us a text On LinkedIn, Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber have been talking a lot about teams not being ABM-ready. They are simply retrofitting ABM on top of existing processes, content, messaging etc -- and they are not making the changes they need to land and expand high-value accounts. As a result, they struggle with accounts going dark. They struggle with accounts becoming stuck or disengaged,. They struggle with accounts churning. Within this podcast, Mark Osborne and Eric Gruber talk ...

Jan 06, 202549 min

How Sal Vilardo and Maverick Solutions Are Humanizing ABM

Send us a text At Personal ABM, we believe that ABM is not really about accounts. Everyone focuses on tiering, segmentation and prioritization of accounts but ABM is really about improving the interactions that teams have with the human buyers in the accounts we want to win, protect and expand. It's about improving the account experience for these human buyers. In this podcast, Sal Vilardo at Maverick Solutions talks with Personal ABM CEO (Eric Gruber) on how GTM teams can humanize ABM. You will...

Dec 19, 202450 min

ABM Hot Takes with David Keene - European CMO of Wipro

Send us a text David Keene, the European CMO for Wipro, recently joined Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss his ABM hot takes including: 1. How ABM shouldn't replace demand gen and brand marketing pillars. 2. How we shouldn't think so much about MQLs or even MQAs and how we need a narrow view of the funnel where we are focused on accounts that have a very low chance of losing and a very high chance of moving to revenue at a high ACV 3. How 1:1 ABM is about ...

Dec 08, 202449 min

1:1 ABM Conversation with Honni Marks at Red Hat

Send us a text Honni Marks (1:1 Strategic ABM Lead at Red Hat) joined Eric Gruber on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss: 1. What it means to take a strategic 1:1 ABM approach. 2. The role 1:1 ABM should play in an account-based GTM program and how it should be used to expand key accounts. 3. The executive engagement that's needed for a 1:1 ABM program and how we should enable executive engagement teams. 4. How to leverage data to tell the account story 5. The 1:1 ABM content that's needed....

Nov 18, 202453 min

Why We Should Focus on ICP Opportunities vs. Intent Leads

Send us a text Intent should not be your biggest factor when it comes to account selection for ABM. In fact, intent-qualified leads tend to result in lower deal sizes as everyone is reacting to the same signals and predefined needs to the point that it becomes a cost-based decision for buyers. By focusing on the ICP, you can identify those accounts that are a best fit, match your business problem profile and are most likely ready for your solution even though they may not be showing intent. With...

Nov 07, 202442 min

ABM Hot Takes with Lindsay Baggett

Send us a text Most of the ABM content and insights being shared on LinkedIn, on podcasts and in webinars are redundant so we challenged Lindsay Baggett (ABM leader at Tanium) to address some hot takes that others haven't thought about. The ABM hot takes that Lindsay and I talk about are: 1. Most organizations are not ABM-ready when they launch their ABM pilot. 2. ABM is not about better marketing. It's about taking a different approach. What are we doing differently with ABM that other function...

Oct 17, 202458 min

Jonathan Spier on Getting the Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) Right

Send us a text When you hit the core with the right content and messaging, that's when you'll see win rates jump, deal sizes go higher and the greatest lifetime value increases from your future and existing customers. But most GTM teams do not have a clear understanding of who their core is and why. Most ICPs suck as GTM teams do not dig deep enough so that the ICP is predictive of the accounts that will most likely move forward and deliver the greatest revenue growth. As a result, GTM teams are...

Oct 07, 202453 min

From ABM to ABX: A Conversation with Briana Evans at Meltwater

Send us a text Inside this ABM Done Right Podcast, Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) talks to Briana Evans (Head of Global Enterprise Marketing and ABM) about their move from ABM to ABX, During the conversation, they discussed: 1. How ABM is not about marketing ownership of accounts -- and it's not about marketing supporting sales. It's a cross functional GTM strategy that stretches across the entire GTM, where all teams are an equal partner in driving account-based revenue growth. 2. How GTM te...

Sep 27, 202459 min

The Role That AI and ABM Tech Should Play in ABM

Send us a text While teams are increasing efficiency with ABM tech and AI -- sales and marketing effectiveness have not increased at the same rate. Within this podcast, Erin Mills (CMO of Quorum) and Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) discuss how we should be leveraging these technologies in the right way so GTM teams do not just see efficiency gains.

Aug 20, 202434 min

How UiPath Takes a 1:1 ABM Approach to Drive Longer-Term Revenue Growth

Send us a text At Personal ABM, we believe that while 1: many and 1: few are an important part of an account-based GTM - it's not ABM. In this podcast, Kristina Jaramillo, Eric Gruber and Nancy Harlan (former ABM leader at UIPath) discuss what 1:1 ABM is and how it should be used for account expansion. Nancy also talks about customer-sponsored 1:1 ABM where you have a champion that will help make the big deal happen and make it as big as can be....

Aug 09, 202447 min

Conversation with Edgar Baum on the Winnable, Addressable Market (WAM)

Send us a text Many GTM teams focus on their TAM and ICP but not the winnable addressable market (WAM) that provides you with the greatest revenue growth. At Personal ABM, we believe that your winnable, addressable market is: 1. The percentage of your ICP that matches a problem profile, they have a strategic priority in place and will provide you with the greatest long-term revenue growth. 2. Your *best* customers -- and your next best customers that can provide greater revenue growth if they ch...

Aug 05, 202452 min

Alex Pappas on Overhauling ABM for Riskalyze and Venafi

Send us a text As most ABM programs deliver minimal improvement to revenue KPIs, Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) and his guest Alex Pappas (Senior ABM Manager for Venafi) discuss how teams need to stop retrofitting ABM on top of current processes. During this podcast episode, you will hear: 1. The ABM challenges Alex faced at both Riskalyze and Venafi and how he gave the ABM programs an overhaul. 2. How Riskalyze didn't have the proper foundation for ABM -- and the readiness that was needed be...

Jun 13, 20241 hr 11 min

Chris Rack on How Most Intent is Nothing More Than Intent to Learn

Send us a text In this ABM Done Right Podcast, Chris Rack (CEO of MRP) mentioned that most intent is nothing more than intent to learn vs. intent to purchase. By listening to this episode, you will learn how to differentiate between the two different types of intent -- and what you need to do from an ABM standpoint based on where the buyer is in their journey.

Mar 27, 202423 min

Eric Dates on Why ABM Programs Fail & the ABM Readiness That Needs to Be Completed

Send us a text Eric Dates (Head of Marketing for V Comply) recently joined Kristina Jaramillo and Eric Gruber on the ABM Done Right Podcast. They discussed: 1. Why previous ABM programs failed for Eric Dates -- and what he did differently with his most successful ABM programs. 2. The questions we should be asking internally before we even focus on building an demand gen strategy and an ABM strategy, 3. How GTM teams need to change their “mentalities”, “processes”, “interactions” and experiences ...

Mar 15, 202455 min

Scott Gillum on the Role of Challenger and Personality Based Marketing in ABM

Send us a text Within this podcast, Scott Gillum from Carbon Design joins Eric Gruber (Personal ABM CEO) to discuss: 1. Why Challenger sales and marketing and ABM goes hand-in-hand 2. How GTM teams can deliver messaging that resonates - This includes how we should create our POV so we can come to each interaction with a POV about the customer's business, how we should create our account-based value proposition, and how to differentiate value from competitors. 3. How to connect with the human buy...

Mar 01, 202447 min

How Field Marketing is Leading ABM for DigiCert and How the Team is Taking a Crawl, Walk, Run Approach to Drive ABM Success

Send us a text In other ABM Done Right Podcasts, including the one with the CMO of Hushly, we talked about the state of ABM in cybersecurity and other industries that are in a crowded, undifferentiated space where transactional sales are prevalent. In this podcast with Michelle Radlowski (Senior Director, AMS & EMEA Regional Marketing and ABM at DigiCert), we explore: 1. Why most ABM programs in cybersecurity are not leading to higher deals and greater ARR, GRR and NRR growth. There are 4 ma...

Feb 12, 202451 min

ABM Readiness: Eric Gruber and Tracy Wehringer Show How to Assess Your Content for ABM

Send us a text Most content does not support ABM nor sales and it's because most teams are skipping a very important step that must be done before you even assess your content to see what's missing. On this ABM Done Right Podcast, Tracy Wehringer (CEO and CMO at Moonshot Strategy) and Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) share the steps that teams should take when doing an ABM content assessment -- and what they should be looking for. They also discuss the content that's needed for accounts that ge...

Dec 14, 202352 min

Matt Brown on How to Grow Your "Best" Customers with ABM

Send us a text Matt Brown (CEO of CustomerOS) recently joined Eric Gruber (Personal ABM CEO) on the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss how to grow your best customers and drive profitability with your next best customers to create a compounding customer growth engine. They discuss how customer success teams are still reactionary and playing defense and forgetting the ABM fundamentals that that helped companies drive revenue growth in the first place as there are no processes, frameworks and data ...

Dec 12, 202357 min

Turning Customer Success into a Credible Business Function with ABM

Send us a text Recent ABM Done Right Podcasts have focused on using ABM to protect and expand key accounts as sales teams are struggling to bring in new business. Companies like Commvault report 8-10% drops in enterprise deals as budgets are limited or frozen. To sustain growth, companies need to protect and expand the existing revenue they do have. But because customers are not getting the experience they want with their vendors after the deal is closed, many companies are seeing churn and lost...

Nov 30, 202349 min

How to Win More Account-Based Conversations That Win, Retain and Expand Key Accounts -- A Discussion with Doug Hutton at Corporate Visions

Send us a text At the center of each new, retention or expansion deals lies a series of struggling moments that need to be listened to, understood, catered to, reframed and solved. These are moments that most sales, marketing and customer success teams are ignoring as they focus on scaling vs. driving account-based revenue growth with the accounts that matter the most to the bottom line. On the ABM Done Right Podcast below, Doug Hutton joins Kristina Jaramillo (President of Personal ABM.) He and...

Nov 03, 202341 min

Top 25 Customer Success Strategist on How We Should Capture Customer Stories for ABM

Send us a text Dana Alvarenga (a 2023 Top 25 Customer Success Strategist and VP of Customer Experience at SlapFive: Customer Marketing) joins Kristina Jaramillo (President of Personal ABM to discuss: 1. Why customer success teams struggle with the "why stay," "why evolve," and "why expand conversations." 2. How most customer success teams are taking a piecemeal approach -- and how Dana is building the customer experience and customer marketing function to take a different approach!) 3. Why teams...

Nov 03, 202333 min

Why David Sakimoto at GitLab Pushes for ABM for Customer Success

Send us a text David Sakimoto (VP of Customer Success at Gitlab) joined the ABM Done Right Podcast to discuss: 1. The state of customer success in most organizations -- what are they doing right, where are they getting it wrong, and where do challenges exist. 2. Why many customer success teams struggle to keep VP and C-suite engagement after the deal is closed and where the process, conversation, and experience gaps lie that are keeping teams from retaining and expanding key accounts. 3. Why he'...

Oct 04, 202346 min

Liz Ronco From Madison Logic on Why GTM Teams Do Not See Maximum Returns From Their ABM Tech Investment

Send us a text As ABM has become synonymous with ABM tech, many GTM teams are not seeing maximum returns from their ABM tech investment as they continue to struggle to move high-value accounts to revenue. Many GTM teams are seeing accounts go dark and we've been seeing reports of 10%+ drops in enterprise deals (the ones that ABM should be focused on!) In this podcast, Liz Ronco from Madison Logic joins Personal ABM CEO (Eric Gruber)( to discuss why ABM tech clients are failing to get the greates...

Sep 15, 202344 min
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