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Introducing the new monthly spin-off podcast from A Rational Fear — Julia Zemiro Asks 'Who Cares?' 

Each month for the next 6 months, Julia will be interviewing change makers, civic leaders, and people who organise their communities and claim their power to discover the secrets to making good things happen.

This month Julia chats with:

Mark Kelly — The instigator of the 'Vote Tony Out' campaign. Hear this incredible story of agitation, and organisation. To get rid of one of the most malevolent actors in Australian political history.

also we hear from

Sally Rugg — Sally is one of the best brains in change making, and community building in the world. A  long time activist, campaigner, and leader in many movements, but most notably she helped lead Australia through the complex, and emotionally traumatic fight for Marriage Equality.  

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THANK YOU TO

Julia, Sally & Mark.
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