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30 Minutes to President's Club | No-Nonsense Sales

Armand Farrokh & Nick Cegelskiwww.30mpc.com
The #1 sales podcast in the world, fueled by hyper-actionable sales tactics from the top 1% sellers at companies like Salesforce, Gong, Outreach, Slack, LinkedIn, Keller Williams, Northwestern Mutual. 30 Minutes to President's Club cuts all the BS, fluffy mindset stories, and sales academia to give you the most actionable sales tactics that get you to President's Club. Every episode is a supercharged 30 minutes where you'll hear step-by-step breakdowns in every key dimension of sales, including: Prospecting: How to open conversations to triple your pipeline Discovery: How to ask questions that uncover massive pain Process: How to get big contracts over the line Leadership: How to hire and train world class teams. Your founding hosts are Nick Cegelski (3x top enterprise seller) and Armand Farrokh (VP of Sales at 29, ex-Pave, ex-Carta) joined by co-host Mark Kosoglow (CRO @ Catalyst, ex-Outreach).  Whether you're seller listening to the (SELL) show or leader tuning into the (LEAD) show… Get ready, you're going to President's Club.

Episodes

Hall of Fame: Sarah Brazier Ep. 17

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 We're running it back! Here's one of our all-time favorite episodes on 30MPC. FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Write like a human - especially in your Linkedin DMs. No over-formal language. Leverage up by reaching out to ICs, then getting referrals to the VPs. Tell them it’s a cold call, then ask permission to sell before ya start selling. Use permission-based selling in your upfront contract. Get the buy-in on the agenda. ...

Jul 04, 202229 min

104 (Sell): Asking the right questions to ensure a successful POC (Daisy Chung, Director of Sales, Orum)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Define success criteria before going into a pilot so you don’t waste your time. Run two products during the POC so your buyers choose between your options vs the competition. Establish a buying window by highlighting a compelling event OR the cost of inaction. Prioritize your pipeline as finish line deals > pilots > open deals > warm follow-ups. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Director of Sales @ O...

Jun 29, 202231 min

103 (Sell): Getting ahead of negotiation by calling out give/gets early (Miles Kane, Director, Enterprise Sales @ Drift)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Before agreeing to a give, ask what they’re willing to bring to the table. Map out every step of the process to the signature with actions, owners, and dates. Send a recap to the buyer of where they are in the journey after every discovery call. Prime your champion with the nuances of your product / MSA and be ready to jump on a call to hash out the details. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Director...

Jun 22, 202229 min

102 (Sell): Setting expectations with the next next next step (Jake Dunlap CEO @ Skaled Consulting)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Don’t just set the next steps. Set the next next steps. 2nd meeting demos should be 100% business application focused. NOT technical. Set that expectation upfront. In the 3rd meeting, lead with top 3 themes you’ve heard, then ask “what do you think?” before jumping into demo. In that meeting, have a 5 minute exec demo and a deep dive demo in your back pocket. RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our wee...

Jun 15, 202231 min

101 (Sell): Handling objections with empathy and education (Joe Caprio, Operating Partner @ Glasswing Ventures)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Incept interest early by citing articles, years at role, X times they’ve had role, etc. Find and rank top triggers, then use the first one you find when doing outreach. Establish trust by pointing out challenges or differences with typical customer profiles. Find design partners by being honest upfront with where your vision / product gaps are. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Operating Partner @ Gl...

Jun 08, 202229 min

Playbook: Top 10 moments that change the way we sell

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Every 10th episode, we tear down one topic. This time, we’re hitting them all. The top 10 episodes and takeaways (so far) that change the way Nick and Armand sell. RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

Jun 01, 202229 min

100 (Sell): Challenging your customer to ensure the best mutual fit (Stephen Guerguy, Enterprise Sales Leader @ Monte Carlo)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Challenge your prospect on fit early and often to test buy-in. Set landmines for competitors during the requirement gathering phase. Require an exec level bridge with your CEO instead of spending hours in an RFP. Use carrots to drive close when internal compelling events are lacking. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Enterprise Sales Leader @ Monte Carlo Former Enterprise Sales @ Segment (acquired by...

May 25, 202232 min

99 (Sell): Becoming a consultant in your sales cycle (Tonito De Leon, Senior Manager of Business Development @ Reprise)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Whiteboard out the vision state once you’ve identified the pain. Link their current state with how far off they are from their vision state. Bring new members back up to speed before jumping right into the demo. Use self deprecation on your cold calls - put it on yourself to lower the guard. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Senior Manager of Business Development @ Reprise Founding Account Executive ...

May 18, 202225 min

98 (Sell): Writing better emails with data-backed optimization (Will Allred, Co-Founder & COO @ Lavender)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Avoid using first names or commands in your subject lines. Use unsure tones (e.g. typically, usually) instead of informative tones in your emails. Never ask more than one question in an email. Sending 50 word emails yields better results than 125 word emails. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Co-Founder & COO @ Lavender RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

May 11, 202229 min

97 (Sell): Handling the tough objections (Tom Alaimo, Growth Account Executive @ Gong)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Prep your champion when re-engaging an opportunity so they aren’t blindsided. Keep your emails light. Fewer links, attachments, etc. tend to work better. Stop overcomplicating your CTAs with word games or aggressive asks. Try to unpack all the possible underlying causes in a vague objection. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Growth Account Executive @ Gong RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newslett...

May 04, 202231 min

96 (Sell): Finding success by adding structure to your prospecting Outreach (Anthony Natoli, Commercial AE @ Outreach)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Send three touches on your first outreach - personalized email, call, LinkedIn connect. Keep your subject lines at 1-3 words with a clear value prop segue in the body. Avoid process related problems when prospecting above the line. Re-visit your research before refreshing your outreach on a cold account. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Commercial AE @ Outreach Former Mid-Mkt Growth Account Director...

Apr 27, 202231 min

95 (Sell): Prospecting at scale without compromising personalization (Alan Shen, Data Account Executive @ Pave)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Split your prospecting in 3 buckets (find 25 accounts, research 25, sequence 25). Run a report for any accounts with “[in]” activity when pulling prospects. Look for the same 3-4 key triggers every time you’re researching prospects. Build snippets for each of those triggers to personalize at scale. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Data Account Executive @ Pave RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly new...

Apr 20, 202230 min

Hall of Fame: Kyle Coleman Ep. 4 & 47

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 We're running it back! Here's one of our all-time favorite episodes on 30MPC. RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

Apr 18, 202254 min

94 (Sell): Utilizing a JEP to drive multithreading and upsells (Anna Romeka, Enterprise Account Manager @ TripActions)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Always provide context before asking for access to power. Start your JEP with critical events and work backwards from there. Mitigate risk by establishing and aligning on the next three steps of the buying cycle. Request specific names to key stakeholders early in the process to make the ask easier. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Enterprise Account Manager @ TripActions RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join ou...

Apr 13, 202231 min

93 (Sell): Prospecting in unconventional ways (Jimmy Comodeca, SDR Manager @ Copilot.cx)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Look at LinkedIn activity and reverse engineer prospecting messaging from there. Join relevant, public Slack groups and build a reputation before engaging. Record valuable information like teammates, vacations, and cell numbers in OOO replies. Work accounts above the line, and below (AEs above, SDRs below). PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB SDR Manager @ Copilot.cx Co-founder @ The SDR Newsletter RES...

Apr 06, 202228 min

92 (Sell): Mutually establishing the buying process by being more direct (Tom Hemmingsen, Head of Mid-Market and Sales Dev @ Thrive)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Always confirm that you have the right people and processes mapped out. Drive velocity with critical events like renewal date or company initiative. Lean on your manager to ask the hard questions once you get to power. Leverage mutual action plans to hold prospects accountable. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Head of Mid-Market and Sales Dev @ Thrive Former Senior Director, Commercial Sales @ Five9...

Mar 30, 202228 min

91 (Sell): Joining the resistance to create openings (Josh Braun, Founder @ Josh Braun Sales Training)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Label and agree with objections to lower the zone of resistance. Create an opening by asking “what’s your take on [something they can’t do]”. Highlight business impacts by asking “are you aware of [relevant insight]”. Stop reacting and pitching. Instead, lean on humor and interest. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Founder, Josh Braun Sales Training Former Head of Sales @ Basecamp Former VP of Inside...

Mar 23, 202232 min

Playbook: How to land a killer sales job

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Every 10th episode, we tear down one topic. This is how to land a killer sales job. FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Build a top 25 accounts list that meet your criteria on space, prestige, size, etc. Have a non-hideous resume with short, punchy sentences and specific numbers. Prep for your interview by developing a point of view from the company’s perspective. Don't be afraid to negotiate the terms of your deal. If you don...

Mar 16, 202234 min

89 (Sell): Selling to executives at the enterprise level (Ian Koniak, Founder of Ian Koniak Sales Training)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Start your calls with a point of view on how you can help your prospect. Kill the deck in the first meeting with the executive, focus on listening. Sell the discovery process and yo-yo sell without fatiguing your executive. Target new executives - they’re usually brought in to solve problems. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Founder of Ian Koniak sales training/consulting Former Strategic Account Di...

Mar 02, 202234 min

88 (Sell): Injecting your demos with discovery (Mor Assouline, Founder of FDTC)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Start your demo with a round of intros + what each person wants to get out of the call. Recap stories and pain points from your disco before showing a related feature. Validate whether or not the feature you showed actually solves their problem. Justify the questions you ask to help lower the customer’s guard. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Founder of FDTC (From Demo To Close) Former VP of Sales @...

Feb 23, 202231 min

87 (Sell): Staying ahead with MEDDICC (Andy Whyte, Founder MEDDICC™)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Ask about the last time they bought something before asking for buying process. Don’t be afraid to call out when a deal doesn’t appear to be a top priority anymore. Get your execs involved when dealing with the buyer’s executive team. Demonstrate the research you’ve done EARLY in the sales cycle. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Founder MEDDICC™ RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things ...

Feb 16, 202231 min

86 (Sell): Nailing the tone of your discovery (Marcus Chan, Venli Consulting)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Roleplay the worst case scenario over and over again until you feel confidence. Reference a similar company that you work with in early-stage voicemails. Keep it cool when you jump on a call with an executive. Over-structure is the enemy. Use why questions to understand the intent behind the priorities. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB President of Venli Consulting Creator of the 6-Figure Sales Acad...

Feb 09, 202237 min

85 (Sell): Selling the partnership instead of the widget (Dan Cutler, Head of Sales)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Strive to get 3/3 criteria before give price: technical validation, budget, power. Go exec-to-exec when you’re below the line. Never sell alone. Before you talk at the CXO, start by asking why you’re in the room at all today. Attach your product to key initiatives surrounding making money or saving money. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Head of Enterprise Sales @ thepowersthatbe Former Sr. Director...

Feb 02, 202230 min

Hall of Fame: Ryan Reisert Ep. 6

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 We're running it back! Here's one of our all-time favorite episodes on 30MPC. FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Eat the frog by committing to prospecting first thing in the morning. Handle objections differently with a ledge (ledge > disrupt statement > ask). Handle ‘existing solution’ objections by offering value to keep the other guys honest. Get past gatekeepers with respect, giving specific value, and providing social pr...

Jan 31, 202225 min

84 (Sell): Trading items of unequal value (David Priemer, Founder @ Cerebral Selling)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Don’t show that you have the power in a negotiation. Slow down the negotiations, it should feel like work every time there’s an ask. Change the plane of negotiation on each ask. Certain “gives” should run out. Talk them out of a discount unless they’re sure it’s the only cut. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Founder of Cerebral Selling Lecturer at Smith School of Business at Queen's University & Lon...

Jan 26, 202229 min

83 (Sell): Paying for success with prospecting (Jeb Blount, CEO @ Sales Gravy)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Eat the frog by committing to prospecting first thing in the morning. Handle objections differently with a ledge (ledge > disrupt statement > ask). Handle ‘existing solution’ objections by offering value to keep the other guys honest. Get past gatekeepers with respect, giving specific value, and providing social proof. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB CEO @ Sales Gravy Author or 13 books including F...

Jan 19, 202230 min

82 (Sell): Telling crispy customer stories and using unexpected honesty (Nick Casale, Director of Sales @ Sendoso)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Set the ground rules for your prospect’s competitive evaluation (sell the model) Lean on your winning zones & the prospect’s priorities, then identify where competitors fall short. Gain traction against incumbents by explaining why market leaders are playing the game wrong. Tell relatable, crispy customer stories by painting the specific people and their journeys. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Di...

Jan 12, 202234 min

81 (Sell): Mastering conversational discovery to drive your sales process (Michelle Pietsch, VP of Revenue @ Dooly)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Use humbling disclaimers to level with the prospect to establish next steps. Ask about the buying process AFTER you get to the “aha” moment in discovery. Figure out the “why” when a signing deadline is missed - then determine next steps. Avoid leading questions which do the opposite of building rapport. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB VP of Revenue @ Dooly RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsle...

Jan 05, 202226 min

Playbook: Running a Killer Demo

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Every 10th episode, we tear down one topic. This is how to run a killer demo. FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Show the 20% of your features that solve 80% of the problems. Always prep for who is in the room, what they want to see, and the objective of the call. Show as few screens as possible in the demo, go right into the “Aha” moments, and ask questions. Control the room by setting expectations upfront and directing exce...

Dec 29, 202138 min