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30 Minutes to President's Club | No-Nonsense Sales

Armand Farrokh & Nick Cegelskiwww.30mpc.com
The #1 sales podcast in the world, fueled by hyper-actionable sales tactics from the top 1% sellers at companies like Salesforce, Gong, Outreach, Slack, LinkedIn, Keller Williams, Northwestern Mutual. 30 Minutes to President's Club cuts all the BS, fluffy mindset stories, and sales academia to give you the most actionable sales tactics that get you to President's Club. Every episode is a supercharged 30 minutes where you'll hear step-by-step breakdowns in every key dimension of sales, including: Prospecting: How to open conversations to triple your pipeline Discovery: How to ask questions that uncover massive pain Process: How to get big contracts over the line Leadership: How to hire and train world class teams. Your founding hosts are Nick Cegelski (3x top enterprise seller) and Armand Farrokh (VP of Sales at 29, ex-Pave, ex-Carta) joined by co-host Mark Kosoglow (CRO @ Catalyst, ex-Outreach).  Whether you're seller listening to the (SELL) show or leader tuning into the (LEAD) show… Get ready, you're going to President's Club.

Episodes

149 (Sell): Selling with ChatGPT (Sonny Round, Director of Global Sales Development @ Panopto)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Download Sonny's ChatGPT Cheat Sheet FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Three common ChatGPT use cases: pull out insights, write emails based on that research, handle objections when they come in. Feed ChatGPT with relevant data like a 10-K to write a great tailored email for you. From there, you can plug your website or writing rules to craft an email for you. Don’t like that email? Ask for a revision or have it use Hemingwa...

Jun 07, 202333 min

Club Playbook: How to cold call (ft. Morgan J Ingram)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Download Morgan's Cold Call Script ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Overview - Fisherman’s Framework: Break your cold call into Waiting (Openers), Bite (Value Props), Fight (Objections) Section 1 - Openers (Waiting): Use one of two cold call openers — the PLA (pleasant, laugh, arms-up) or the confident pause Section 2 - Value Props (Bite): Reverse engineer soundbites from your customers and have 2-3 foundational pillars of probl...

Jun 05, 202313 min

148 (Sell): Sealing the deal with executives (Lynn Powers, Enterprise Sales Director,@ Clari)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Preschedule the final executive meeting upfront if you get access to the executive buyer at the beginning of the sales cycle. Map out the 10 things you’ll need to do now, to prepare for the big executive meeting. Send 1:1 messages to each department lead before the call to find out what is important to them. Have your economic buyer pre-sell each executive before going into the big team meet...

May 31, 202336 min

147 (Sell): Negotiate like a pro during a savings showdown (Hunter Swanson, Enterprise Regional VP @ DocuSign)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS When you are asked for a discount ask in return, “Why a discount at all” and then create a cost to each item they’re asking for. When asking for contract turnaround time, don’t just stop at legal approval. Break it down from prioritization to stakeholders. Take the time to get approval. Don’t make it seem like it’s too easy. When returning a proposal, walk through the additional savings bein...

May 24, 202331 min

146 (Sell): Winning over the CEO by turning their team into champions (Henry Schuck, CEO & Founder @ ZoomInfo)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 ZoomInfo: 5 Plays, 30MPC Style FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Don’t let the fear of breaking rapport prevent you from asking for the next step. Answer the yes-or-no questions and SHUT UP! Figure out their vision through discovery, then tell the story of their business in terms of how other world class teams use you to achieve it. Turn the CEO's team into your champions to get the inside scoop on everything about them befo...

May 17, 202329 min

145 (Sell): Getting to power for executive level discovery (Kyle Asay, Regional VP @ MongoDB)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Download Kyle's Executive Multithreading & Agenda Email Templates FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Prepare targeted questions during pre-call prep to validate your research Repackage information in exec summaries by highlighting solutions and needed resources (don't just regurgitate the champion-level business case) When an exec is impatient, share your POV and ask for their input When asking for power, show how their invol...

May 10, 202334 min

Hall of Fame: Keenan Ep. 7

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Align on the problem and impact first, then start brainstorming root causes and solutions Build a problem identification chart with the problems, impacts, root causes of your ICP Talk to customers, become an expert. Why did they buy? What problems did you have? You need customers to agree to the problem they have and be willing to solve it with you. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Author of Gap Sel...

May 08, 202326 min

144 (Sell): Progress your sales with healthy customer tension (Jen Allen-Knuth, Community Growth @ Lavender)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Start by aligning on the problem in the big team meeting and sell your champion on why it’s important. At the beginning of the big team meeting present in this order, the problem > the cost of inaction > alternatives which include you. In the big team meeting, call out those people who are not voicing their perspectives and create a safe space to air out problems. Even if there is consensus,...

May 03, 202334 min

Club Playbook: Run discovery with a point-of-view (ft. Sarah Brazier)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Section 1 - Agenda: Have a plan & share it. Call out surprises before they, ya know, surprise you. Section 2 - Set the Table: Teach your customer something they don’t know, and you’ll gain credibility in their eyes. Section 3 - Dig In: Don’t just ask qualification questions. Understand their challenges today and the impact those are having on their business. Ask questions about areas the prospect...

May 01, 202314 min

143 (Sell): Part 2: Weaving showmanship into your sales process (Vin Matano, Sr. Account Executive IC-5 @ Demandbase)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Download Vin's 5 Emails from Prospecting to Close FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Keep your multithreading separate to first establish direct lines of communication, and then weave them together later. Once you have the group threaded together, separate out the master recap email from individual recap emails. Put on a show! Vin used the number 282 to start a presentation, which was the number of LMS providers on G2 crowd, ...

Apr 26, 202329 min

142 (Sell): Part 1: Energize your prospecting with multi-channel mastery (Vin Matano, Sr. Account Executive IC-5 @ Demandbase)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Download Vin's 5 Emails from Prospecting to Close FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Pick 5-10 accounts per week and focus all of your energy on them. That might look like sending emails Monday and Wednesday, then going multichannel on Friday. Use email as your hub and other channels as your spokes with your CTA on the other channels pointing back to your email. The email channel can get flooded; get creative with other chann...

Apr 19, 202328 min

141 (Sell): Mapping the path to close and navigating to your destination (Justin Solis, Enterprise Account Executive @ Pave)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Start your demos by setting the scene. Orient your buyer as to who they are in the demo and what they are doing in their day. If you get a mild “yes” at the end of the demo (e.g. “it could be interesting, I want to debrief internally”), use timeline and sales process steps to see if they’re willing to work to take a step forward. When asking for power, make it us vs. them. Align the timeline...

Apr 12, 202332 min

Playbook: The Multithreading Playbook

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 WHAT YOU'LL HEAR The Golden Path Top Down Selling Bottom-Up Selling RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

Apr 05, 202340 min

Club Playbook: Scaling email personalization (Charly Johnson)

Download Charly Johnson’s Cold Email Drip Templates ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Section 1 - Research: Have the top 5 things you look for ready to go and jot down the templates you’ll use for each. Section 2 - Trigger Templates: Create scalable templates for each trigger - do it with your team to create a pool of common templates you can pop in. Section 3 - Deposits: Apply the same concepts above to create ‘deposit’ templates that don’t always take value, they give it back. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Acco...

Apr 04, 202314 min

Product Roadmap: Q2 2023

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

Apr 03, 202318 min

140 (Sell): Optimizing your time-consuming sequences (Sam Nelson, Founder @ SDRLeader.com)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Download Sam's Agoge Sequence FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Analyze a low performer's time allocation to identify areas for improvement. Filter time-consuming sequences in your SEP and review the people included. Categorize your sequences to prioritize opportunities effectively. Segment people into immediate opportunities, helpful but not immediate, and irrelevant. Standardize your value proposition based on persona to s...

Mar 29, 202328 min

139 (Sell): Building trust when selling at early-stage companies (Miles Kane, VP, Sales @ Tenderly)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Grow your existing pipeline 50% by asking for referrals. Use these 3 common PLG (product-led growth) triggers to engage freemium users: sign-ups, increased usages, and multiple users on one account. Don’t immediately sell your roadmap. Instead, find customers who are 80% aligned with the vision and use the roadmap to bridge the 20%. If you’re selling early-stage, focus on the early adopters ...

Mar 22, 202332 min

138 (Sell): Building your sales process step by step (Luke Floyd, Sr. Account Executive @ Deel)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Download Luke's Recap Email Templates FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Build your sales process out step by step. This will fuel how you ask for next actions. Build templates for every part of your sales process. Ex: discovery recap email, group demo recap email, lost deal email. Once you finish your first discovery call, continue to recap the top 3 priorities in terms of the business problem. Include a context guide with y...

Mar 15, 202334 min

137 (Sell): Structuring the steps of your discovery call (Krysten Conner, Enterprise Account Executive @ UserGems)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 UserGems’ Job Change Sequence FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Start with a menu of pain: the 3 biggest problems that any given persona can face. Once you align on the problem, ask, “What’s prompting that need?”. You can start talking about solutions once you have an executive-level problem (e.g. down round, churn problem). Use individual contributors, like AEs, for inside intel on the organization. Then use their quotes on...

Mar 08, 202330 min

136 (Sell): Adding discipline into your sales process (Anthony Natoli, Enterprise Account Executive @ Lattice)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Download Anthony's 3-Step Email Framework FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS On a cold call: Get permission, lead with a problem statement and its negative consequences, then ask how they’re addressing it today. Once you have validation, book the meeting. On a normal discovery call: Ask why they took the call, why change at all, and lastly why change now. On a competitive discovery call: Start with why they bought their origi...

Mar 01, 202334 min

135 (Sell): Part 2: Pacing your conversation with a champion vs. executive (Kevin “KD” Dorsey, Sales Leadership Coach)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Download KD's "Did I" Checklist Manifesto FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS After the demo, get a sense of what they liked and use it to justify your ask to power. Avoid getting stuck below the line with “yes-and” - loop in the suggestion but also confirm the email you want instead of asking for permission. When you get to power, recap the key problems you found first, then open it up and ask what’s important to them. Start ...

Feb 22, 202328 min

Hall of Fame: Joe Caprio Ep. 35

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Stop withholding the demo from your prospects, ask how they want to run it. 5 min harbor demo in the call #1, 30 minute deep-dive in #2, multi-thread, repeat. Don’t force yourself to power. Enable your champion to have the conversations. If you need power, ask your champion questions they need power to answer. RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

Feb 20, 202333 min

134 (Sell): Part 1: Connecting the dots in your discovery call (Kevin “KD” Dorsey, Sales Leadership Coach)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Download KD's "Did I" Checklist Manifesto FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS PPI (Problem, Pain, Impact): Get agreement on a problem, understand the pain the problem causes, and identify what that means for the buyer and the business. Use bucket questions to get problem agreement. Weave the top 3 problems into your opening questions. When someone tells you what they want, restate it as a pain point. Turn solutions into proble...

Feb 15, 202328 min

133 (Sell): Identifying the difference between pain and problem (Becc Holland, Founder & CEO @ Flip the Script)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS If you don’t dig into their self-diagnosis, you lose credibility. When you hear their diagnosis, ask why they came to that conclusion and then begin to unpack it. Unpack the diagnosis by starting with the questions that will most likely get you to the answer quickly. Once you know the key metrics that drive their business (e.g., open rates, reply rates), you can deposit and add value by shar...

Feb 08, 202331 min

132 (Sell): Controlling the sales process in the buyer’s best interest (Devin Reed, Director, Content & Thought Leadership @ Clari)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Wingman’s In-App Objection Handling Battlecards FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Use typically language to help guide your buyer into the next steps. When the buyer wants to multithread to someone you’re not familiar with, ask how that person has contributed to purchases in the past. When your champion is proposing to finance, offer to be a “fly on the wall” to help support them. If you aren’t on the call, ask questions abo...

Feb 01, 202330 min

131 (Sell): Plan your attack, then attack your plan (Liam Mulcahy, Go-to-Market @ Kleiner Perkins)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 Download Liam’s Account Planning Sheet FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Start discovery by asking why they were hired in the first place. It’ll help build rapport and understand the organizational vision. If you suspect someone is going to be a blocker in the deal, bring it up with your champion before it even happens. Don’t stay single-threaded in accounts. Just because you booked a meeting doesn't mean you shouldn’t keep ...

Jan 25, 202340 min

Playbook: The Negotiation Playbook

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS When giving price: explain how it works first, then give price and stop talking. When the customer asks for a discount, act surprised and push away to encourage them to come back to the table. Lock in access to power before negotiating. Confirm the person you’re speaking to can get the deal done on time and approved. Don’t make unilateral concessions. Try to leverage options or create a cost...

Jan 18, 202327 min

130 (Sell): Asking questions that get your buyer talking about impact vs features (Morgan Melo, Enterprise Account Executive @ Pave)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Use typically language and stories to gain credibility with your prospect, leading to deeper discovery. Ask your champion how they plan on justifying a purchase to the larger org. This aligns you to business level problems and also serves as champion validation. Mirror multithreading in the sales cycle. Bring a VP for a CXO. Bring an SE for a technical buyer. Bring in product for someone cro...

Jan 11, 202333 min

129 (Sell): Using pushes to handle objections (Will Padilla, Sr. Account Executive @ GRIN)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS When asked for pricing early, give a range but hold the other key pricing details until you get feedback. If you’re getting ongoing buying objections, suggest that it may be too early to be talking. Get to the true objection when someone asks to be sent more information. Before giving any discounts, get clear commitment on timing. And make it clear that if there’s a slip, it starts back at s...

Jan 04, 202324 min

128 (Sell): Booking more outbound meetings with slapping (Florin Tatulea, Director of Sales @ Barley)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Segment your sequences between above and below-the-line decision-makers. Permission Slap: Ask for permission to give valuable information. e.g. Can I send you a 90-second video so I can show how you might get a sense of what win rates look like in RFPs? Look for keywords in the investor day transcript or in the 10-K, then attach those to the messaging you use above the line. Prospect in burs...

Dec 28, 202230 min